The Daily Zeitgeist - QAnon Climbs The Charts, NBA Is Bawlin’ 3.6.19

Episode Date: March 6, 2019

In episode 342, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Jamie Loftus to discuss the new Game Of Thrones trailer, the QAnon book climbing the charts, science proving anti-vaxxers wrong, the House Judiciary committee announcing investigation, the Islamophobic rhetoric in our government, Kanye West's contract with EMI, Pete Davidson and Kate Beckinsale's kiss, NBA players being unhappy, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. HBO Drops ‘Game of Thrones’ Final Season Trailer2. ‘QAnon’ book claiming Democrats eat children is climbing the Amazon charts3. Measles vaccine doesn't cause autism, says a new, decade-long study of half a million people4. WH: Nadler, Dems ‘Harassing’ Trump To ‘Distract’ From ‘Socialist’ Agenda, ‘Killing Babies’5. House Dems will take floor action to confront Omar’s latest Israel comments6. Jerry Falwell, Jr. at CPAC: I will shoot AOC if she tries To “take my cows"7. Kanye West's EMI Contract States He's Not Allowed to Retire8. Kate Beckinsale and Pete Davidson’s Relationship: A Complete Timeline9. At Sloan, NBA commissioner Adam Silver talks candidly about players’ mental health10. WATCH: STANDING ON THE CORNER - Vomets Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 72, Episode 3 of The Daily Zeitgeist, the podcast where we take a deep dive into America, nay, the world's shared consciousness. It's Wednesday, March 6, 2019. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. When you're bored at work, slip on headphones and listen to Miles and Jack Podcast. Swing your minds on the zeitgeist and the zeitgeist on your mind.

Okay. Yeah, all right. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I'm in the zeitgeist and want to paint it gray. Second-rate podcast that's painted gray. I see the hot takes that no one else knows. I shake my damn head as the darkness grows. Okay, so someone said replace the humming with the sob.

The humming with sobbing. So that is from Certifiable. Very interesting spelling. At 5'6", PC Certifiable. For that Rolling Stones, I kind of took the Liberty and I did the Eric Burden with War version of Painted Black, which you should really listen to that fucking version because they go off in that one. Mine was courtesy of Year of the Ant at MFC Erickson on Twitter. That's right now. The Year of the Ant.

Year of the Ant. Not the pig. Just joined. We just began it. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our thirds by the hacker who codes Lil Zam. The Jamie is the loftiest part. That's all I know.

That's all you know. There was a whole verse, but I don't know how the loftiest part. That's all I know. That's all you know? There was a whole verse, but I don't know how the whole thing goes. Okay. What song were you singing? I'm sorry. I don't know. Waiting is the hardest part. Oh, okay.

The Jamie is the loftiest part. I like it. Don't mind me. I don't know that much about music. I don't know how that chorus goes. There is a whole thing written by Kevin H. Bell that I'm sure is great. Hell yeah. But I can't really.

Hi. Hi. How are you? I'm good. It's great to have you here. Hey, good to be here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about.

Today, the Game of Thrones trailer is out. QAnon book is climbing the bestsellers charts, and science is continuing to waste time and resources arguing with dumb people. So we're going to get into all that. But first, Jamie, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Marsha Clark nudes. Yeah, girl. Get it. Have you not seen them? Wait, Marsha Clark, the prosecutor from the OJ Simpson trial?

Yes. Nude photos? Marsha Clark nudes. When did she post? Was this something she posted or someone stole from her? This was back in the day. The only reason I feel comfortable searching it is she's looked back on it as like a, what a wild thing that happened. But hey, I'm 25 in those nudes, so no complaints. But during the OJ Simpson trial when everyone was trying to discredit her for like any reason.

Being a woman. Yeah. They went the old school route. Slut shaming? They slut shamed her. But the joke's on everyone because the nudes are fucking great. Fantastic. Are they like vacation pictures or something? They're like

vacation Polaroids. She's hanging out. It's like not a performative nude. It's just a tasteful nude. She's in front of a tree in France. It's nice. Yeah. She's like on a topless beach or something. Polaroid in front of a tree in France is very, very cool way to go for your nudes,

if you ask me. I was using the Marsha Clark nudes as a theme for a poster I'm making, so I had to go back to the nudes. How dare she have breasts? I know. Really, I mean, it just shows she cannot work in the field of law.

Right, and I thought we couldn't get lower. Cut those nippies off and call me back. Cut those nippies off and call me back. Cut those nippies off. Laser them off. That's what I did. Who do you guys respect now more, OJ Simpson or Marsha Clark? Oh, OJ. After seeing those nippies.

As a jury member, I would be like, well, she was naked once. She has boobs like my mom. Gross. On purpose, even. And I think it was taken by her husband. It was the most tame dude possible. Wait, the one I saw was her arm and arm with another man. A guy has his arm around his shoulder.

Yeah, that was her husband. Oh, well, you said he took the photo. So I was like, does he have powers we don't know about? I don't know. I need to do a deep dive. Yeah, it's such a tame photo of just someone who's on vacation who happens to not be wearing a top. It's such a chill nude. I strive to have a chill nude like that.

That'd be a really great album. See, I was thinking of this one. Oh, yeah. That's a fun one, too. Whatever. Just fucking live your life. We're all humans. Listen, it was the 80s.

Everyone had wild bikini lines. Wild bikini tan lines, and everyone was on cocaine. Yeps everyone had wild bikini lines wild bikini tan lines and everyone was on cocaine yep wait how do people not have bikini tan lines now because are they all just

sitting around posing naked yeah they're naked all the time now I told you pa the world's getting away from us this was covered in that OJ TV show that was one of the best episodes ever

it had one of the funniest moments of TV ever when John Travolta gave Marcia Clark the thumbs up for her new hairdo. Oh, God. So good. That perm? Yeah. Did you ever see that super cut of David Schwimmer saying juice? Juice! Juice!

Juice! Come on, juice. Don't do the juice. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Minions branded merchandise. Okay. Listen, I've never seen the Minions.

I've never seen any of the Minions movies. I couldn't really tell you what they're about, but I know that I like the Minions and I think they're fun. And people who are hating on them are the same kind of people that hate on Guy Fieri, like that Grand Sh Shade and Taurus joke. They're just fucking bored, and they're mean-spirited, and they got nothing better to do. And I think the minions are fun.

Yeah. Do I think that it's a little scary they're all guys? Sure I do. But I got hurt the other day. Brag. I tripped. By a minion. Congratulations.

I got two scabs. Dry or wet? They were wet for too long. I was worried they were infected. But now they're dry. They're past the weeping phase? But I went to CVS because I didn't have a first aid kit at my house.

And there is a regular first aid kit and there was a minions first aid kit. It cost $1.50 extra, but I'm like, man, those guys make me smile. I got my first aid kit and all the band-aids are funny., but I'm like, man, those guys make me smile. I got my first aid kit, and all the Band-Aids are funny. The one I'm wearing right now, it says, it feels right to be a little wrong. And then there's a minion.

I was like, I'm laughing already. It feels right to be a little wrong. That's like a lyric from a song from the 80s about having an affair. Oh, yeah. And it's also how the minions feel about my scab. I think they're funny. about having an affair. Oh, yeah. And it's also how the Minions feel about my scab. I think they're fun. Is one named Kevin?

I have no idea. I think they're one named Kevin. Is there one called Bob? It's a mixture. Is there? I don't know. That's terrible. I've seen one Despicable Me movie, and I was like, all right.

I don't understand why people need to hate on the Minions. Yeah. It's just edgelord bullshit. Minions are fun. That's not even edgy. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's not even a thing where I'm like, oh, yeah.

Like, fuck. Or I can even see it. It's just like, you're just so angry at a weird humanoid whatever these things are. What are they? They're technically not humanoid even. But what are they? It's officially, I don't know. They're little.

They're like cough droppoid. There's a lot of. It's weird because they're kind of. Like jujubes because they're kind of like the Oompa Loompas, except their slavery narrative is not as heavily. But they only work for bananas, which is not okay. Yeah, right. But they weren't captured from a rainforest by some imperialist white explorer. Yeah, what's their backstory? I don't really know.

I haven't seen the movie. And forced to worship Christ? I checked with- And wear steampunk goggles? I'm sorry. My boyfriend says they're paid in bananas, not money. Right. So they should unionize.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Quite a banana republic. Now, is it weirder, do you think, for a community, a fictional community, to be all boys like the Minions?

Which I didn't realize that it's very smart or or to have a single female and like the smurfs yeah no i think that well i think that you know it would be interesting to see minion maybe they have i don't there's like what 700 minions movies right maybe there has been a female minion that's become canonical over time. Right. Sorry about that. That's my minions alert. You've been talking about minions for over five minutes. I mean, I don't care for the whole narrative of that one female minion must colonize the world. But it seems like the minions may be asexual and that they just pop in.

That's what I was thinking. Right. I don't know. But in that case, it's on their creator, who is what, Goofy Steve Carell or something? His name is Gru. Oh, okay. Oh, maybe.

I went to Universal Studios last week, and there's Minions Land, and I could not figure, I was like, this movie must be crazy. There's an orphanage. There's an orphanage in Minions Land. Right, in the Minions world. I think he's evil and has some interaction with orphans, whether he adopts them.

There's Despicable Me fans who are punching their steering wheels right now because we're getting it wrong. I went on the ride and there was a very sad adoption narrative that happens on the Minions ride. I was like, this is weird. Steve Carell forgot about adopting a daughter. And at the end of the ride, he's like, just kidding. I remembered. I was like, what the fuck, he's like, just kidding. I remembered. I was like, what the fuck is this? I just came here for Minions.

You can't have real parents in American cinema. You got to be an orphan of some sort. Your parents have to die horribly or else you're too soft. Totally. You have too many advantages. I mean, that was always your parenting creed. Right. Exactly.

Don't be soft. Don't be soft. Don't be soft. Ghost your kids and let them lift themselves up by their bootstraps. So I faked my death about a month ago on both of my boys. I'll watch them grow from afar. And then when the time is right, dah! I'll jump out from behind a door. Hit me!

What is something you think is overrated? True crime podcast cadence. Can you demonstrate the cadence at which true crime podcasters speak? Yeah, how can I do it without making one exactly? Oh, without directly shading a podcast?

It is all to say, like I've listened to most of them and they're all infuriating. Even more so than the documentaries, because at least the documentaries, you've got like Lester Holt, like full on showboating and being like, unfortunately, she was in many pieces. Or Keith Morrison, who's really the god MC. Keith Morrison is my crush, man. He's great. It was a dark day on that February. He hits in the space of one note or one word. Keith Morrison hits like seven different notes.

It's music. Wait, so hit me with podcast or cadence. True Crime podcast. Like I just hate the whole genre that is just like, so I wanted attention, right? So I uprooted an entire small community and resurfaced trauma for a job I'm not qualified to do. And I got basically no answers. And that is most true crime podcast. And it's all about them.

It's barely about the crime. It's just all about congratulating them on Googling things. Right. Not even in a fun way like catfish. Right. But the way that they, I i don't know it's just like there's spooky music playing underneath it was like and it occurred to me what if she wasn't and then i thought no you're not trained to do this job so i called up my friend yeah like the

serial influenced internal monologue like narrator just taking you through their process their fucking brilliant journey and then they'll always like call their family member right at some point and just be like so i called my mom because she'd heard of dying before and maybe she'd have some insight and then nothing happens. And then it's like, so then I called the victim's mom cold and didn't tell them I was recording. And, uh, cause it's a one party state. They don't need to know I'm recording.

Right. And so they hung up on me. And so I'm starting to think they might be the killer. And then it's like 500 ads about how you should like buy a soap. It's so fucking gross. Yeah. But you love it anyway. But. It's so fucking gross. Yeah. But you love it anyway. But I listen to all of them.

So what do I know? Buy the soap that we advertise, idiots. Yeah. Hey. And oh, what's even better than the cadence is the transitions into commercials on True Crime Podcasts are always, some people really go for full sinister. They're like, I spend a lot of time wanting to tear my skin off in the night. But since I don't, I use this soap. You're like, ah! lot of time wanting to tear my skin off in the night but

since i don't i use this soap you're like yeah i was just listening to dr death which is a true crime podcast that's a brutal one yeah yeah and they had ads that were like hashtag death like really dark dude dr death Dr. Death is an especially well, a cadence-y one. Yeah, especially like the dude is just

a alcoholic drug addict who like killed all the normal parts of his brain and was just Right. Yeah,

he wasn't as interesting as they wanted him to be. But you gotta make it last all 13 episodes. You gotta make it last 45 episodes before you're like basically he was very sick and it's sad. Right.

Why would he do this? Was he diabolical? You're like, no, he was mentally ill. Right. It was interesting. And then the third episode, they're like, and they started finding piles of cocaine everywhere and jugs of vodka under his desk. It was like, yeah, he was fucked up. Wow.

And yeah, you can't do surgery when you're drunken on cocaine, it turns out. What was his name? Dr. Dunch. Dunch. Dunch. Oh, they're all so horrible. I know.

They're so bad. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Oh, okay. This is, okay. The myth is, let me make sure I have my double negatives right. Okay, the myth is, let me make sure I have my double negatives right. The myth is that I don't not have a secret link to the Adam Carolla Netflix special that Netflix refused to air because it was too offensive.

And then I'm not, not going to write about it because I have the secret link. Okay. You have a secret link to it? You've seen it? I don't not, haven't not seen it. Wow. Okay. It's called like Jokes for Taco Bell.

He's dressed like Steve Jobs. It's a fucking wild ride. Listen. Jokes for Taco Bell? You're not going to believe this, but Adam Carolla? No, don't. Not a fan of women. No. Not a fan of women.

Well, then why'd he have the man show with the juggies? I know. Mr. Crank Yankee himself? Yeah, right. And Jimmy Kimmel, too. I know. Mr. Jimmy Kimmel, I mean, I feel like he's apologized for it sufficiently. Yeah. But I don't know.

Well, not for Carl Malone blackface yet. I don't know if he's addressed that yet. He really should think about it. Has he not? Well, he avoided Carl Malone blackface yet. I don't know if he's addressed that yet. He really should think about it. Has he not? Well, he avoided talking about it that whole week of Ralph Northam news. Ralph Northam and blackface did not come up, I don't think, in any of his monologues. Right, because people would just turn it back on him. They'll be like, oh, really?

Remember Carl Malone? Excuse me, Jimmy Kimmy. He liked to dip the toilet paper in the water before he wiped his butt. Right, right. I was like, that sounds very unsanitary. Yes. All right, guys, let's talk about the Game of Thrones trailer that just came out.

It is being paused and poured over one shot at a time on laptops and phones around the country. I don't think it tells us anything that we don't already know or suspect. What is that? Can you explain to me what Game of Thrones is? Game of Thrones is like a fancy Lord of the Rings. Yeah. Yeah, it looks expensive.

With a lot of incest. It looks expensive and it looks, yeah, stinky. I think something like the budgets for this season are astronomical. And they said that there's like, anyway, it's all culminating with like a fucking battle to decide the fate of the earth that this reality is placed in. But they said like it was harder to film or like more. It was more laborious than even shooting the Helms Deep sequence for Lord of the Rings. And that one is like, no, because they're not Peter Jackson.

Yeah, I don't know. Someone wrote. So I just saw crazier than Helm's Deep. So I don't know what the fuck that means. Helm's Deep, is that the pointy eye? The Lord of the Rings. That's Sauron and that's Mount Doom. Oh, got it. What's Helm's Deep? Don't worry about it.

It's not. I feel sick. Anyway, do you feel like you know where we're headed, Miles? I mean, I know where I need shit to happen. Like we were saying, I just need Arya to have satisfaction. I don't care about anything else. like you know where we're headed miles i mean i know where i need shit to happen all i like we were saying i just need aria to have satisfaction i don't care about anything else yeah that's why i don't care if the white walkers take over the whole motherfucking thing yeah as long as she becomes a white walker and gets satisfaction by killing whatever she's gotta do you know some

lannisters yeah uh man what if she her verse jamie I feel like people will have a tough time with that. Yeah, what do you think, Jamie? You versus Aria. Yeah. Is that the small one? Yeah, there you go. Small one. You'll take Maisie Williams down?

I could take Maisie Williams down. Is that not the question? No, there's a character named Jamie Lannister. Oh, that's fun. The only thing I know about Game of Thrones is when people shouted at my face in the robot chicken writer's room. That's all I know. Just people being like, Jay, you're so dumb.

You've never seen the dragon television show? And I was like, no. What are you, anti-dragon? Are dragons cancelled? Chicken in the room hasn't seen the dragon show. She's cancelled. Wait, sorry. I jumped off the Corolla thing before you told us. Where are you going to write that review of the band show. She's canceled. Wait, sorry. I jumped off the Corolla thing before you told us. Where are you going to write that review of the band? Oh, we know.

Oh, Vulture Baby. Vulture Baby. Vulture Baby. They hooked your girl up with Da Link. Nice. Also, Vulture Baby, a character in Game of Thrones. Yeah. No, but people, I feel like it could come down to Arya and Jaime

because those are the characters other than Jon Snow and the Mother of Dragons that people are, you know, they're fan favorites. And Jaime still pushed a child out of a window. Yeah, I did. Made him a paraplegic. Yeah. Jaime Loftus did that. Oh, yeah, the character did too. That's wild.

That's crazy. Saw the young man caught him having sex with his sister. Yeah. Jamie Loftus did that. Oh, yeah. The character did, too. That's wild. That's crazy. Saw the young man caught him having sex with his sister. Yeah. And he said, oh, well, peace out to you, young man. I'm going to shove you out this window. Yeah. This show sounds great. This show sounds great.

It's a mess. It's got all the dark shit from history, including the characters you want to win or who deserve to win. Slavery, incest. Sometimes get their head squished. Yeah, it's all in there. Squashed. There's a QAnon book climbing the bestseller charts. I believe it's the one we talked about on a recent episode.

It's climbing. Yeah. People love this narrative. Who is the author? It is- It's like where we go one, we go all. Yeah, WWY something something. It's their motto, basically, of like this is moving.

But it's actually, I think it's basically that name is about like a loose collective of people who just sell QAnon merch. I feel like this goes back to the whole people just being exhausted with the same narrative. And it's this way because we consume so much content and so much media and we're just like looking for plot twists to happen on the like at a pace that will keep us engaged. Like Game of Thrones. Right.

Like Game of Thrones. Why can't people just watch the Dragon TV show and watch the kid fuck his sister? Right. Exactly. Be much more responsible. When are Don Jr. and Ivanka going to get together? Right, exactly. But you do hear that.

They're like, the Trump bashing is getting old. It's getting old. It's like, well, he's so bad at his job that it is a one-note story. He's a real person. He has one speed, fuckery. Right. So, of course, all the stories are going to be about said fuckery. It's the same people who say, oh, I'm sick of Beyonce, man.

Everyone's like, oh, she's so great. Beyonce knows one speed. Right. Greatness. Exactly. So deal with that. Yes. And Trump knows his.

But again, you know, I also kind of admire someone who looks at the news and is trying to be like, this bores me. Yeah. I need a new reality. Give me something fresh. But I think that that's a whole, yeah, it's a huge chunk of, there's a lot of energy being burned on that. Like with the Q narrative

where everything that's up is down and down is up. And there's a third act plot twist where Mueller is working with Trump, not against him, and everyone's pedophiles, which everyone is pedophiles. It's just not the way that they think it is. The people who are pedophiles are the ones who people have proven are

pedophiles. Wow. Is that how that works? Really great philosophical. Makes me think. The ones that are pedophiles are in fact. Have established journalists writing about how they're pedophiles. Yeah.

Yeah. The thing that bums me out about the QAnon book is that a lot of the reason it's doing well is because it's being featured on Amazon algorithmically generated hot book list. So like Bezos is fucking hawking it on top of everything else where it's like i'm sure people are searching for it anyways but there's nothing in place i guess in the amazon algorithm to uh maybe filter out or or not include proven conspiracy uh books there it's like right above uh right now it's right above Fahrenheit 451. Yeah.

On the hot sales list. You're just like, this is fucking abysmal. Abysmal. I like abysmal. Yeah, it has an extra syllable now. Abysmal's canceled. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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I have a proposal for you. Come up here and in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified.

Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this?

We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. They're just dreams. Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in the prints. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on.

Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies. When civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back, and science is continuing to waste their time and resources arguing with dumb people. There is a new study, research at Copenhagen's Statin Serum Institute, where they examined Danish children from 1999 through 2010,

1999 through 2010, ended up with 650,000 people altogether and have definitively and once and for all proven that vaccines do not increase the risk of autism. Drop the bomb, Nick. Doesn't even increase the risk. There's no like they like went through and one by one where like it doesn't cause clustering of cases, it doesn't do anything that anti-vaxxers claim it does. It decreases the risk of dying of scurvy. Right, exactly. Well, I was just watching the Flat Earth documentary on Netflix, which is riveting. What is it called?

It's called Behind the Curve or something like that, or Beneath the Curve or something like that. And it's following some prominent people. But there's an interesting moment where these people at NASA are like physicists or like we should actually, like, you know, the more we just sort of ridicule people who are so anti-science, they're going to be pushed to the margins and they're never going to come back. And he said because the sort of instinct or the reflex of a lot of scientists is like, dude, I know this is science. You don't get the fuck out of here.

Yeah. And more than that, they said there should be a way. It's like these people actually are interested in science just in a very sort of unorthodox, misguided way. able to make what they know as accessible as possible for any level of understanding rather than trying to be like a bad bad bad you're bad you're bad you're dumb to be like let's explore this together right let's look at this together let me tell you like let's look at what you're looking at let me look like having to handhold people as sort of like a greater benefit and they were saying this in the context of flat earthers um but it was interesting because yeah like a like a lot of through this documentary, you see a lot of these scientists, people like this. I can't fucking stand them. Yeah. Like and it's just like, fuck that. He's like, but part of that they realize, too, is that they could also help people understand if they make things very easily digestible to like to try and understand where they're coming from and dismantle those arguments in that sense rather than you're wrong and that's the end of it. That you can sort of help combat this sort of anti-intellectualism, which I thought was an interesting point.

I mean, at the end of the day, I just, you know, certain people I think are just going to be, you know, they're so in their Dunning-Kruger shit that they're experts and it doesn't matter what they've read or know. It doesn't matter what they've read or know. Yeah. The fact that, you know, if a scientist has the patience to level with someone like that, that's probably a good thing. It just sucks because it just sets back any, you know, productive thing they could do. Yeah. I mean, that's great if, right, like you said, if they have the patience. But I also think that, you know, there's a selfish attraction to being the one who figured out. It's like why people like The Matrix because it makes you think,

oh, I'm the one. Which you've seen, right, Jamie? Yeah, I finally watched it. You did? Oh, great. Yeah, because when Caitlin was on yesterday, we were talking about the live show, and she was like, I don't think she's going to watch The Matrix

for our live show this Saturday, March 9th. Yeah, Dynasty Typewriter. No, I watched it. You watched it. Okay, great. So I'm glad we'll be able to actually talk about it when we're on stage. Okay, just checking in. No, I watched it.

Great. So yeah, but yeah, I get that. I mean, I think there is definitely wasted energy when you could be doing other things. Right. But at the same time, when you actually kind of watch these people who are scientifically illiterate, they just really do their desire for their confirmation bias, like to sort of seek that out is so strong. It might be. Right.

Some people might be at the point of no return. Because I think there's a selfish drive behind it to feel more important and like you're uncovering a truth that isn't as opposed to the status quo, which just leaves you as one of 7 billion people on the planet. Right. The real point here is remove Jenny McCarthy from the panel of the masked singer so I can enjoy it. Right. Oh, is she one of the judges? She's one of the judges. Is she bad?

Or is it just you don't enjoy it because she's an anti-vaxxer? Well, she's an anti-vaxxer and she's bad. Yeah. Yeah. Does she ever just suspect, does she ever try and weave in any anti-vaxxer rhetoric into her assessments? I don't know if they would let her, but she really brings down,

in my professional, seeing every episode of The Masked Singer opinion, she really brings down the vibe and kind of yells over everyone. And I don't care for it. She talks over Nicole Scherzinger's zingers. Nicole Scherzinger's funnyingers. Nicole Scherzinger's funny. Her Scherzingers.

My hottest take right now is that Robin Thicke on Matt Singer makes me laugh. Does he really? He makes me laugh. My hottest take. I hate it. Is that because he intentionally makes you laugh? He's being charming and funny? He's got little goofs.

I like it. That's funny. Oh, I hate it. I know somebody who edits for that show, and he says that most of the editing that he had to do one time was just editing out Robin Thicke vaping. He's just constantly vaping when they're not showing him. Then he's like, oh, you're going to show me, and stops vaping.

Dystopian TV is delivering. Yes. Dude, the fact that i mean not to spoil for all my mass singer heads but it was a full week ago at this point but the fact that fucking t-pain was the mass singer is beauties t-pain sings like an angel it makes sense because most people only know his auto-tuned voice yeah so when you hear him sing just the straight uncut raw voice unadulterated t--Pain gospel album, bring it. So wouldn't that be like a professional dancer winning

so you think you can dance? Like he's a professional singer. Eddie also beat Gladys Knight and Donny Osmond. Also professional singers. Oh, is the point, I don't really know, is the point meant to be mostly non-singers? Or just celebrities, basically? No, I mean, all the non, I don't really know, is the point meant to be mostly non-singers? Or just celebrities, basically? No, I mean, all the non-singers basically lose

in the first half of the show. It's a flawed premise, but what people want to see is celebrities dressed up as animals, right? So that's really as far as they got conceptually. But professional singers will always win. And it was like, everyone knew it was Donny Osmond and Gladys Knight for weeks, but no one knew who T-Pain was.

It was exciting. Joey Fatone was on it. It was, oh, what a thrill ride. Mr. Pain himself. Mr. Pain. Thaddeus Pain. Thomas Pain. Does T-Pain stand for Thomas Pain?

Oh, my God. That's amazing. Oh, my God. Wow. The one and same Thomas Pain. Oh, my God, that's amazing. Oh my God, wow. The one and same Thomas Paine. Oh my God. So for more evidence that our union is in great shape, President Trump's approval rating is at the same place

that both Obama and Clinton's were at this point in their presidency. He's at, I think, like 46%. Those are polls that. And those, that's on the high end. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. And those are polls that were reflecting how people felt, I think a week and a half ago. So we'll see if the Cohen hearings affect anything, uh, or his inability to cause world peace or his, uh, forged Nobel prize, uh submissions anyways uh the house judiciary

committee is aiming to not i i mean i don't know that their one and only goal is to bring down his approval ratings but uh i think it's oversight yeah and to get to the truth of the matter yeah um so they fox news i don't know they're just trying to bring his poll numbers down yeah Yeah. To get to the truth of the matter. Yeah. The Fox News. I don't know. They're just trying to bring his poll numbers down. Yeah. Exactly. But the House Judiciary Committee have announced an investigation and basically making the president bring all the receipts. Every single receipt in his shoebox hidden.

They have asked 81 individuals and entities to produce documents like literally over everything trump tower moscow comey's firing kushner security clearance fucking tax returns every burger king receipt every mcdonald's now come on now okay don't be fake news in here sorry he's a big mac boy uh but yeah it's just one of those it's it's even further reaching than the Mueller probe. This is they're trying to be like, we just want to know the extent of crimes that are being committed by these people and how dirty of a administration we're looking at here. And it's, you know, ruffling feathers. But, you know, the White House knew this is going to happen. They remember they had that spreadsheet back in the summer when they were like, OK, if the Democrats take the House, this is what we can expect to be fucked over.

Like all these terrible things. And then they hired like a dozen new lawyers at the beginning. They're ready to sort of fight this. Hey, if they've got a spreadsheet, look the fuck out. Yeah, exactly. They're coming for you. And the Judiciary Committee is the one that would initiate impeachment proceedings. But the chairman, Jerry Nadler, very careful when they're like, oh, is this about impeachment?

He's like, no, no, no, no, no. We're just trying to get to the truth. But we kind of see what's going on, where this is headed. I think he's just being very diplomatic by not trying to use the I word too soon before there's enough, I guess, public support for it. Sarah Sanders' statement seemed to take things a few degrees further from the planet Earth than I thought she was inhabiting. She said, among other things, that their intimidation and abuse of American citizens is shameful, speaking of Democrats and the people conducting the investigation, she said Democrats are harassing the president to distract from their radical agenda of making America a socialist country, killing babies after they're born,

and pushing a Green New Deal that would destroy jobs and bankrupt America. To be fair, I only killed the baby after they were born because the baby saw me having sex with my girlfriend. So I pushed it out the window. It was a motivated kill. You're twin. I would say that in court. Yes. But yeah, that shows you the state of what their defense is, right?

When they're saying, oh, they're just doing this because they want to kill babies? Kill babies after they're saying, oh, they're just doing this because they want to kill babies? Kill babies after they're born. Again, this is all based on a misreading of an interview with Ralph Northam. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, swing for the fences and see what happens. But this is, I mean, that's what I'm just saying. Is that you saying that Democrats should swing for the fences and kill babies after they're born?

No, no. Sarah Huckabee Sanders, she needs to swing for the fences and kill babies after they're born? No, no. Sarah Huckabee Sanders, she needs to swing for the fences and just take this fucker as far out of orbit as possible. I mean, like the fact that we're using the, but the what about them trying to kill babies is, there's no real substantive defense to the oversight, the constitutional oversight role that Congress has over the executive branch. It's just, oh, they're just doing it, man, because you know what this is all it is, man, smokescreen, Oversight, the constitutional oversight role that Congress has over the executive branch. Right.

It's just, oh, they're just doing it, man, because you know what this is all it is, man. Smokescreen. Because they're going to take all our cows. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're going to take your burgers. So I'm not sitting by. Uh-huh. A spreadsheet has been started.

I've never started a spreadsheet before I was absolutely ready to kill. Right. Right. Right. Yes. I mean, look, yeah. And you saw Arya Stark. She had that spreadsheet going. Yeah, she did.

Only for very serious people. A lot of anonymous peacocks on that spreadsheet. Let's talk about the true danger to America that is Ilhan Omar's anti-Semitic statements about Israel. So she was at a bookstore answering somebody's question about her perceived anti-Semitic comments when she pointed out that there are Israeli lobbies that fund various lobbying efforts. Yeah, that shape our foreign policy. That shape our foreign policy. And she said, I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it's okay for people to push for allegiance to a foreign country.

I want to ask, why is it okay for me to talk about the influence of the NRA or fossil fuel industries or big pharma and not talk about a powerful lobbying group that is influencing policy? So that, I don't know if you could hear, but those were clearly the words of an anti-Semite. Well, the thing that her critics are jumping on is this dual loyalty trope that has been used anti-Semitically. That people who are loyal to America and Israel, that their allegiance to Israel makes them anti-American. And a lot of people take that, go further, and they say, by extension, every Jewish person can't be trusted if this trope, if this is what they're actually hanging on as the evidence for the antisemitism. The use of the word allegiance.

Right, exactly. And I mean, the dual loyalty thing, it's not exclusively for Jews. I mean, Japanese Americans had to deal with it during World War II. And Muslims especially have this same thing of, oh, you don't know, like, who are they loyal to? Are they really American? Are they not? So it's just one of these moments where I'm, when I look at it, I'm like, I get that her words, you know, as maybe it was slightly awkwardly worded that it opened her up again to being able for people to criticize what she's saying. But at the same time, I know what she's getting at with this statement. She's saying that I can talk about the NRA, these other industries that influence policy. I'm talking specifically about a foreign country that is also influencing our foreign policy.

about a foreign country that is also influencing our foreign policy. But all of her critics just want to avoid having a proper nuanced debate over the relationship between the United States and Israel. Right. And I think they're also reacting to what she looks like, right? Yeah. She's in hijab and she's Muslim. And so it's very, that's why I'm saying, I think y'all are more Islamophobic than her being anti-Semitic.

Right. Because when other people like, you know, for example, Jim Jordan, the fucking great man out of Ohio, comes out saying he tweeted at Jerry Nadler, who's Jewish. I said, at least pretend to be serious about fact finding Jerry Nadler. As we said, Judiciary Committee chairman. He goes on. He says, quote, Nadler feeling the heat big time jumps to Tom Steyer's conclusion, the S is a dollar sign, impeaching our president before first document request. Okay, that is textbook anti-Semitism. You know what I mean? Tom Steyer is also Jewish.

You know, I'm not seeing much backlash from his party about this tweet when that's straight, straight up, you know up anti-Semitism. You're not seeing much from this point. Not seeing, yeah, wow. Swish. Wow. Swish. Drop the fucking bat.

It's so, I mean, and I'm sure that this is just going to keep happening. And thank God she is just pretty direct and relentless with her viewpoints on things. But it's just like if people don't come at her just treating her like she's not even a legitimate member, then it's, I don't know, it's just like there's no respect for her position at all. So it's just completely delegitimizing. So the House is now, you know, Democrats are now trying to drag her and put a resolution on the floor condemning anti-Semitism. Wait, Democrats are? Yeah, yeah, Democrats are.

Because they're the ones being like, okay, we got to snuff this out. Like, this is no place for, quote unquote, anti-Semitism. And it's a resolution condemning anti-Semitism, but they don't name her directly. So it's sort of like an indirect rebuke, right? But they're basically going on the floor and saying we do not stand with her in asking these questions sure or just saying or it's more just point blank step by step saying these are these are anti-semitic tropes we condemn you know and i love a live subtweet yeah oh yeah just subbing the shit out of her but meanwhile ilhan omar in her own district there are

people saying like assassinate ilhan Omar in West Virginia. There were like signs calling for her death at gas stations. Then at CPAC, there was a poster like a meme that had 9-11 above that says never forget. And then it shows Ilhan Omar like seated in Congress and says, I guess we forgot. Right. Like it's and but yet I don't see people defending her and trying to put forward resolutions that condemn this kind of Islamophobic rhetoric that's coming out, especially from the right. So it's just it reads very there's just there's just a double standard when it comes to it. the alliance between the United States and Israel has been just an accepted fact of like our foreign policy, that Ilhan Omar is like, I guess, a disruptor, for lack of a better word, because she's openly constantly questioning, like, what about what's going on with Palestinians? Are we saying we also support this behavior of what Israel is doing to Palestinians? And that's a

thing. That's a facet of of this conversation i wish entered the coverage more rather than just saying like oh she's saying she's talking spicy about israel right like why not actually talk about some of the things that is happening the things that she's saying and acknowledging are things that the un have pointed out like that israel was actually sniping private citizen palestinians journalists paramedics, yeah. Shooting them indiscriminately in the head, murdering them. And as unsurprising as it is that the Democratic Party does not support people who are trying to start an actual conversation,

it's like, Jesus fucking Christ. Well, some Democrats are saying to even question the alliance is unacceptable. Now, that, I think, is actually. Right. Now that I think is actually very dangerous. You know what I mean? I think, again, anti-Semitism is very real. We're not trying to say this is some kind of boogeyman argument. It's very real and very dangerous. But using it as a shield to avoid reasonable, constructive debate is absurd and dangerous in and of itself. It's very real, as illustrated by the Republicans, politicians, and the white supremacists who support them and who support the president.

But it's okay for white men to be racist, apparently. Yeah, and again, a clip has been going around, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez caping for her girl, Ilhan Omar, defending her, thank you, and pointing to her girl, Ilhan Omar, defending her. Thank you. And saying, pointing to a quote, a thing that Jerry Falwell Jr. said at CPAC over the weekend. He was basically like, I'll shoot AOC if she tries to take my cows, basically. You know what I mean? When he completely obscured the substance of the Green New Deal to be take my cows bill.

And then in December of 2015, Jerry Falwell said this to like 10,000 students at Liberty university where the followers, you know, that's like their conservative Christian college. Uh, and these are his takes regarding guns and, uh, Muslims.

If some of those people in that community center had had what I've got in my back pocket right now. Is it illegal to pull it out? I don't know. Anyway, I've always thought if more good people had concealed carry permits, then we could end those Muslims before they walk in and kill us. End those Muslims? I just wanted to take this opportunity to encourage. So, again, a lot of people were like, oh, she's mischaracterizing what he said. He wasn't talking about a genocide of Muslims. He just meant and those Muslims who came in and shot up that San Bernardino.

I think he's referring to the San Bernardino shooting again. Even the rhetoric being used is fucking wild. We are in the wilderness officially. And this shouldn't be a surprise because, you know, Israel and the far right Christian conservatives have just forged an alliance with each other over the years because they like it's the holy land for Christian conservatives. They do a lot of PR to invite them over to Israel and help to build like to make them allies, essentially. And so this is a very prevalent thing that's happening. And so this is a very prevalent thing that's happening. And you can tell that this sort of anti-Muslim or Islamophobic rhetoric is definitely situated on the right. However, you would think that the Democrats, too, could also understand what Ilhan Omar is trying to say.

She's not saying anything about Judaism as a religion or people who are Jewish she's talking about as a matter of policy. Can we go to sleep at night in good conscience, knowing that we're supporting a country that is committing just terrible atrocities? Right. And then the Democrats refusing to have the conversation, basically, by naking everything she said, accomplishes nothing. It just means that the conversation isn't going to happen. And I think that's a testament to the influence or the sort of not influence, but just sort of how hard line the idea is that the U.S. and Israel are just together forever. Don't talk about his BFFs and avoid any of the ugly stuff. Right.

But again, you know, you would hope that people could see what she's trying to say and understand that this is a more nuanced conversation she's trying to have about our foreign policy. And I would also say, please phone your representatives, because these people are signing bills right now and they're trying to throw Ilhan Omar under the bus. I understand that she could have worded that differently. I can see that because that did open her up to them using a very indirect way to try and paint her comments as anti-Semitic. However, all these Democrats are piling on in the sort of this performative thing of saying like, oh, yeah, that's that's terrible. That's it. We're not going to discuss it either. But then the question is, how can we have a actual discussion about this without it being some kind of weird navigation of a minefield of being like, oh, this could go into anti-Semitic territory.

Right. You have to let a white man say it, apparently. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's like if a white male Democrat had said stuff like that, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Right. Yeah.

But even then, I just don't know how can we actually put down on a list, this is what the UN Human Rights Watch people are talking about. This is the aid we're giving them. What is our role in this? What is the influence we have over them maybe changing their policies? What how can we have this discussion? It might be I mean, this is like assuming that people would react in a reasonable way, but just like maybe couching it and the fact that, you know, she's not the first person to have this thought. She's one of the only people in the whole body willing to say anything about it. But it's like if this conversation is happening in other, you know,

like in the UN, then I don't know, start with that. It's happening in Israel. It's even happening here. The people in power in Israel are the furthest to the right, like of the powerful people. And even the party that Netanyahu was courting for his coalition government was so far right, even AIPAC was like, ooh, no, no, no, not them. Like, you're going too far, my guy. And that says something.

And I think these are reasonable conversations to have. This is, as a country, we need to be aware of who we align with, what is being done with our help, indirectly or directly. And I think these are all very reasonable questions to ask. And I think it's just really counterproductive to just instantly dismiss these questions as being anti-Semitic. And again, yes, probably could have worded that differently. And I think that's part of Ilhan Omar's process of understanding how the people are going to just react to every single thing she says. And it sucks that her language has to be even more nuanced.

But again, I think at the end of the day, the aim is still the same. Is this the right thing? Are we doing the right thing? Can we have a discussion about this? Right. All right, we're going to take another quick break. We'll be right back.

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trying to get his freedom from this contract. Like you said, it basically prohibits him from taking any kind of a break or retiring. So slavery? So is he, I thought slavery was a choice, Mr. West. But you signed this deal. That seemed like I don't know. The whole thing is very interesting. Like he's been in this contract since 2003 when he was doing college dropout. Oh, really? Yeah. It's a very, very long thing. And he's trying to get ownership of his music after 2010.

But it's just it was very ironic for me to read this thing of being like oh wow look at you signing the wild deal that kept you from retiring Jesus Christ I mean that is that does sound like

a curse on its own right because that means we have to keep talking about it and we just every no we don't we can keep moving

that's true how about that anyway just laugh at that and then we'll keep it moving we know why Miles really wants to keep it moving because there is a relationship. There's a relationship that Miles is obsessed with. I didn't know. Are you?

To my attention. So this is sort of an unofficial Google Trends watch because these are all stories that have been trending on Google. But the most trending of stories was a photograph that was released a couple days ago of Pete Davidson and Kate Beckinsale kissy-kissing each other's faces like they're in a relation. Don't mitigate the tongue-tongue. Yeah, it wasn't kissy-kiss. It was licky-lappy. It was nasty.

Where do you stand on the licky? Do whatever you want. You know? Okay. I mean, kiss however you want in public. Not at my sporting events. They're at a basketball. I did not know.

Someone just goes, wow, Pete Davidson, Kate Beckinsale. I said, what? And I look. How old is Kate Beckinsale? 45 or something like that? I don't know. She is. Well, first of all, we're not coming for Kate Beckinsale.

No, no, I'm not coming for anybody. What I'm saying is- Catching a young dick. 45. Yeah, she's 45. Yeah. This warms my heart. Yeah.

I don't know why. You know why? Secretly, I love Kate Beckinsale. Yes. And to know that Pete Davidson, the was that like at a Golden Globes party they met and then it went from there right a Golden Globes party that you could have been at

I love Kate Beckinsale her majesty knows I love Kate Beckinsale she likes Pacey, Joshua Jackson and if we ever met them all bets are off those are the two celebrity crushes your two number ones she's not my number one.

She's up there. Lola Bunny from Space Jam. Listen, don't stop dreaming. Don't stop dreaming. Hey, I'm ready for that reboot. But yeah, it was, it's just, you know, what were you saying, Jack? Is this like the new Demi and, what's his face? Demi and Ashton. But this seems

like a better, more relevant Demi and Ashton because she's super talented and Pete Davidson is a funny guy who has some

cultural value in my opinion yeah I think that Kate Begginsale is gonna get a lot of youth capital she's gonna learn

she's gonna become a fucking youth genius oh god she's gonna start a YouTube channel you think she's vampiring him for youth genius oh god she's gonna start a youtube do you think she's vampiring him for youth cred i hope that she i mean because now people are like who the fuck is kate beckinsale i mean now gen z is like who's kate beckinsale and so i think this is

i think this is smart even if it's fucking staged bullshit i still like it or like a pr standpoint i like it is that bDE that big dick energy so crazy with right like is his dick the elder wand like what's going on it's oh it's worth saying I do think that Pete Davidson has some some manner of veneers a few people were tweeting that pick me what the veneer situation is if all the teeth in the front row are the same length, there's some caps involved. Okay. Interesting. Some caps. Cap and trade.

He seems, like I do wonder if there's almost a, like foreign fetishization thing going on with her thinking of him, because I can't think of somebody who is more from a different planet, like from a Gen Z millennial planet than Pete Davidson. I feel like, like compare it, like I can't think of somebody who my parents would have a tougher time like being like, I don't get it.

Like I just don't get this guy. I mean, listen, his specials name was suck my dick. And we love that about him. Right. But there is like a weird, like whenever a younger man dates an older woman, it is news. Right. And the bigger the age gap, the bigger the story.

I don't know. It's cool, and I am glad that at least they're not treating Kate Beckinsale like they treated Demi Moore. She's a fucking, they talked about her like she was an animal. They're like, she's a fucking cougar right she's gonna eat him she's gonna suck his blood like the whole bit but do you know who matt rife is the comedian no apparently he dated kate beckinsale and he spoke to tmz outside of the laugh factory and they asked him like hey you got any you got any uh tips for pete now that he's dating kate beckinsale don't make tmZ sound stupid, Miles. Come on. They're our foremost journalists.

Oh, yeah, you're right. I mean, they do give us some great messy moments. But essentially, like, his whole thing was like, dude, run. Which is fucked up. I don't know.

You know, I think that's some hater shit. That's fucking dumb. That's some, like, scorned ex shit. Yeah. Where you're like,

oh, dude, she won't think your jokes are funny or something. So she's gonna say, like, your jokes ex shit. Yeah. You're like, oh dude, she won't think your jokes are funny or something. So she's going to say like your jokes are problematic. Right.

If you're talking to TMZ outside of the comedy store, you got to take a good long, hard look at yourself. Yeah. Oh wow.

I don't know. Although this does remind me of a tweet that happened back when Pete and Ariana started dating that speaks on behalf of female comedians,

that the tweet at the time was, Colin Jost is dating Scarlett Johansson, Pete Davidson's dating Ariana Grande, and every female comedian's like, I wonder if I can get this pile of sweatshirts to commit to me. So true. Comedians out there dating the hottest ladies,

and what do we get? Piles of sweatshirts. Chodes is what we get. Wow. Chodes. Wow. Are you in a relationship with a chode right now sweatshirts. Chodes is what we get. Wow. Chodes. Wow. Are you in a relationship with a chode right now? I don't think so.

No, he's great. He's extra not chode. No, he's- He's anti-chode. He's an inverted chode. He's good. Wow, great. Fantastic.

That's good. An inverted chode? I'm just trying to picture the physics on an inverted chode. A chode is too wider than long. Right. And then it goes back into your body. Oh, okay. There we go.

Wow, so it's like Mariana's Trench. Right. Into your body. Into your body and up to your heart. Up to your heart. Wow. Yeah. Oh, wow.

We can only all pray for a love like that. So Pete Davidson and Kate Beckinsale were at an NBA game, and NBA players- Actually, they were at a hockey game. Damn it. They were! Miles, you ruined my greatest transition. I'm sorry. I had to respect the Zam Queen here. Do you think that they franchised the Zam? If so, they're both canceled. Oh, shit.

Well, you gotta keep warm at those hockey games. Yeah, you're Zam-sold. Yes. So, they are... So, the NBA. So, now the transition's just so. So. So, what else? NHL players are not unhappy.

They seem to be the happiest human beings on the planet. NHL players are? Yeah. My dad, whatever. My dad's a hockey reporter. Yeah. Nice. Bias.

They're all like, hey, Mike, stop smoking cigarettes. And he's like, no way. And that's their interaction. So they care about him. 30 years deep. Wow. Is he friends with Cam Neely? Yeah.

He is? Yeah. Oh, fuck. And Ray Bork. There's a picture of Ray Bork holding me when I was a baby. Wow. Damn, that sounds like some shit like real Boston people would lie about. It's like, I got a picture with Ray Bork holding me as a baby.

Yeah, yeah. Everybody's got a picture with Ray Bork holding me as a baby. Yeah, yeah. Everybody's got a picture with Ray. Sure, every fucking person born at the Children's Hospital has a picture with Raymond Bork. Bullshit. So Adam Silver gave an interview at MIT's Sloan Sports Analytics Conference where he- And Adam Silver for the uninitiated.

So Adam Silver is the commish of the NBA. He took over for David Stern. And Nosferatu cosplayer. He also looks like Nosferatu. He's a striking looking man, would be one way of putting it. But he's a great commissioner. He's done in an era when David Stern caught a lot of shit

towards the end of his career for decisions he made. Major League Baseball has been losing its relevancy and its commissioner sucks. Roger Goodell just can't do a single thing right. He's just the worst, shittiest dude in the world. Adam Silver has just been nonstop doing the right thing for a while now. I mean, I'm sure he's had a couple of slip ups, but he gave an interview where he said one of his big concerns for NBA players is not what you would expect. He's worried about their unhappiness and like actual mental health. He's saying that because players are you know extremely isolated from each other you know they're all wearing headphones when they're on the team bus and just like don't

interact it's almost like the things are set up almost like a a king's court or something where everybody is like pitted against one another uh it seems like, or that's the way they feel about things. Because he is saying that they all like feel jealous of one another and they're extremely isolated, extremely jealous of each other's careers and read everything that's written about them. That sounds like comedians. Yeah, it does sound a lot like comedians. How'd you get that max out deal? How'd you get that pilot? But we expect comedians to be unhappy.

We don't expect NBA basketball players to be unhappy. They're ballers. They should be balling, not B-A-W-L-I-N, balling. They should be balling as friends. Yeah. Here, I just want to read this part. Referencing a conversation he had with a superstar ahead of the second game of a back-to-back.

So that's like, you know, your LeBrons, your Durants, your Steph Currys, your Anthony Davises. Silver said the player's unhappiness and isolation were to the point where it's almost pathology. He said to me, from the time I get on the plane to when I show up in the arena for the game, I won't see a single person. There was a deep sadness around him.

Oh, wow. Why don't you cry on your piles of money? That makes sense. But I think it's part of- I think that's the issue that people, that they're going to have with getting any sympathy is, yes, they have incredible amounts of money. But at the same time, there was a number one draft pick, Kwame Brown, who- Oh, come on.

Why you got to go there? Was hospitalized for malnutrition. He had over $10 million a year contract, but nobody was teaching him how to eat right. They didn't have the right infrastructure in place. And I think superstars have the ability to overrule anybody in their orbit. And they're just focused on building their career, but also paying attention to their brand. And that just doesn't make for a happy existence. It's like a philosopher Britney Spears once said, if there's nothing missing in my life, then why do these tears come at night?

nothing missing in my life then why do these tears come at night yeah i was thinking of lucky as the as a musical number with her majesty this weekend it's so funny you bring that up yeah where i just want to just replay this where the at the end she would get in her bed it's like and if there's nothing long pause looks out the window missing from life. And then she lays down her bed. Then why do these tears come at night? All pure could be like this. Yeah. I just think, you know, player power is so high in the NBA. Everybody's making so much money that you have these haves and have-nots.

And when you have people coming out of college where things are a little more competitive, you're suddenly in a league where like talent is concentrating in these clusters and you could be in a team where you're like, I don't know, we're not going to do anything this year. Like I'll win maybe half the games and then that's it. And there's not like, I feel like there, maybe that belief, that optimism of like, I could achieve something. It's a little tampered when you're sort of like, I have to be on one of these five teams or I can just kiss my dreams of being

a champion. Goodbye. Yeah. But it seems like even the goal, like the idea of like wanting to be a champion isn't that motivating or that that's just because they're so isolated and like pitted against one another, like in terms of brand building. I don't know. My friend was at a restaurant and saw a NBA superstar. What are you, Jacob Ward? Named Kyrie Irving. Out with his group of friends and his big takeaway.

And this was a couple years ago before I had even heard of this. But he was like, they seemed like the unhappiest group of people ever. They seemed so miserable. And nobodyiest group of people ever like they seemed so miserable and nobody talked to each other and they were just so sullen and he was like maybe they had just like had an argument with each other or something but now like that sort of ties into this whole idea that these guys are just like very miserable oh t report i heard kairi irving told a woman in uh new york that he was going to the Knicks next season. Oh, for real? And he was like, let's meet up when I'll play here next season.

That's probably a lie, but I just like to throw out gossip. I like that. I don't know. Maybe this is overly sympathetic to very rich people, but I think the concept of basketball depression is very compelling to me. No, for sure. I want to see a movie about basketball. I do, too.

Like the favorite style movie about basketball like the favorite style yeah movie about basketball depression that's exactly what i was thinking like a documentary following kairi around rub my leg for some reason like kairi is the guy who really sticks out to me kairi's got gout in the in the favorite basketball depression movie right but he just even independent of this eyewitness report from him being out to dinner. It just seems like he's like he left LeBron because he wasn't happy. And then like earlier this season, he was like, I'd go play with LeBron again. It's like you're still searching, man. Yeah, I think more for me, I feel the my sympathy goes to them in the the sense that when you're playing a professional sport and you're an athlete, you want to win things.

That's why you play a sport. And I think if you're in a situation where all these other factors are interfering with that focus, I can see how they can sort of become aimless a little bit. Right. But at the end of the day, y'all get to play basketball for money. Yeah. And I hope you have perspective in that sense because that's a blessing in and of itself. Yeah. But I think, I mean, I wish, you know, especially in America, they could make the leagues a little more competitive.

Like, for example, in football, European soccer, you know, they have systems where the bottom three teams are relegated to the lower league and the top three teams from the lower leagues are moved up. That's impossible just the way our sports are set up. Because could you imagine like these arenas that we've spent billions, millions of dollars on the employment that it creates? Right. Like suddenly was like, oh, the Cavs are now in like the minor leagues. Right. That would just be sort of hard to do.

But I love that rule though i want all american professional sports to start relegating like relegate the bottom two teams to the d league next year and bring up the top two d league teams um the d league the d league right are you am i right jamie right sports fan there's also adam silver though talking about like how the team dynamic that you're talking about was saying that like when you compare it to there's a documentary coming out pretty soon about the bulls during jordan's last season and just that they were all you know playing cards and like you know just hanging out together on the team planes and team buses and that like there was a they're still a real camaraderie.

He was like, that's just completely gone from the NBA for some reason. What was the last team you think had real good camaraderie? I know that they were still playing cards together back in probably eight years ago because Gilbert Arenas pulled a gun on somebody. Right, because of a bet. Right, because of a bet. But that's always a big thing

is the card games on the plane. That's super calm ladder. Yeah, that's when you care too much. Yeah, that's when you scale it back. Super calm. I think, look, Adam Silver, bring in spiritual counselors into the teams. I was about to say, they've got money.

They can see a good astrologer and sort their shit out. Well, he should go to- There's too many Scorpios. He should go follow professional footballers around and witness how people's lives are structured. It could be as simple as those people have somebody who runs their career.

There's a position that they're missing from their brand building or something like that. If this hasn't happened already, and I know we get dragged every time we talk about astrology, but there should be an astrologer who analyzes sports teams and is like, oh, well, this team doesn't get along. Well, there's this clear imbalance. If I do everyone's charts, I can figure out, okay, well, what's the X factor?

Or not figure it out. Or who's fired? You know, it's funny. The former French national team manager, Raymond Dominic, he famously would not select Scorpios for the French national team because he's like, no, they would fuck up the entire team. He's like, I don't fuck with Scorpios. I don't fuck with the Scorpios. And Nancy M. Ronald Reagan also ruled via a fortune teller.

There you go. Well, I mean, if there's anyone we can trust, it's the Reagans. Just bring camaraderie back. Let's do hugs yeah you know and it could just not do the astrology it's just this angst though that millennials have too like we're in a social media age where everyone's looking at their followers people can get at them on twitter and just fucking meme the fuck just roast yeah silver specifically seemed to think it was a generational thing and you are seeing higher levels of anxiety and depression in younger folks. And comparative living.

Right. Because all social media does is force people to live comparatively on a subconscious level, some people more consciously. But when you're out there looking at, oh, this guy gets more likes, or now I'm reading about his contract or whatever, now you're constantly having to be like, well, what does that mean about me? Right. Right. Well, Jamie, it's been so wonderful having you, as always. Good to be here.

Where can people find you? You find me at Jamie Loftus Help on Twitter and at Jamie Cry Superstar on Instagram. And listen to the Bechtelcast and come to the live show on Saturday. Yeah. We've got a lot of things to say. So much things to say.

99, baby. We just went through the outline yesterday. It's going to be fun as heck. And now that I've seen the matrix, I'm unstoppable. Totally get it. I'm uncancellable. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Come back to me.

Okay. Miles, how about you? Huh? Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Hello? Where can people find you? Huh? Is there a tweet you've been enjoying or where can people find you? Yes, you can find me at Twitter, on Instagram, at, on both, at Miles of Grey. A couple tweets I like.

You alright, man? Yeah, I'm okay, I think. One is from, so Billy Wayne Davis, a quote tweeted Steve Hernandez, and he said, First is the tweet by Steve Hernandez. I don't talk shit about hipsters because it's hack but last night

at 1.30am in Echo Park I watched some motherfucker in mustard pants with an arm full of records get into a Model T

and that guy for sure deserves to die Billy Wayne quote tweet that and said imagine seeing a time traveler

and wanting them to die SMDH come on help out the time travelers. Another one because, oh, man, the Lakers are so garbage. From Nitz at Nitz Bluv, LeBron, just another guy who moved to L.A. to keep chasing his dreams and was quickly hit with reality.

Wow. And actually one more from Sam Reich, before weighted blanket. Yeah. Gets up to pee twice, wakes up at 8 a.m sharp no dreams after weighted blanket poops bed hibernates through climate change dreams new matrix trilogy that was really good i got one all right okay it's from george severus at george severus uh once again the only political theorist who has truly captured the spirit of our era is Dr. Skye Ferreira when she famously wrote, everything is embarrassing. Yeah, I love that song.

I also had the Sam Reich one. Ethan Embry, your boy from Can't Hardly Wait, tweeted, I have one Luke Perry story. He got in on the action of everybody sharing their Luke Perry stories. He says, at a party in 2005, I finally got up the nerve to walk over and start a conversation. Me, hey man, my name is Ethan. Our kids go to school together. Him, no, not possible. Me, yeah, at blank, my son is in your daughter's class. Him, that's Luke. I'm Jason. And the other guy from 90210. the other guy from 90210 and then Cullen tweeted

me off my meds pitching a cartoon movie okay so you know how most toasterds are cowards and I liked that you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page

and a website dailyzeitgeist.com no at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website. DailyZeitgeist.com No big deal. We have a website, guys, where we post our episodes and our footnote, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. The sources of that

information, as well as a song that you're about to hear us ride out on. Miles, what. How can it be? This is Standing on the Corner. It's the name of this band. And this track is called Vomits, but spelled like comets with a V. And, you know,

just some fun music to get us through this hump day. So please, enjoy your week and keep rocking with us. Yeah, keep on rocking, guys. Bye-bye. In the free world. We'll ride out on that.

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