The Daily Zeitgeist - Queen Takes, The Text Bubble Wars Are Upon Us 09.12.22

Episode Date: September 12, 2022

In episode 1328, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, writer, poet, and host of In Your Hands, Lizzy Cooperman, to discuss… The Queen’s Death Has EVERYONE Talking, The War Over GREEN BUBBLES vs BLUE BUBBLES Is Reaching It’s Propaganda Phase and more! The Queen’s Death Has EVERYONE Talking Former Colonies of Elizabeth II Want Their $400 Million Diamond Back From the Crown Jewels How Britain stole $45 trillion from India The War Over GREEN BUBBLES vs BLUE BUBBLES Is Reaching It’s Propaganda Phase Why Apple’s iMessage Is Winning: Teens Dread the Green Text Bubble LISTEN: Strange Breathin' by GystereSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 254, episode one of The Daily Psych-ice! Stay production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is, of course, Monday, September 12th, 2022. Never forget. 9-11's little brother, September 12th. It's National Hug and High Five Day. National Report Medicare Fraud Day.

Hmm. That's... Nah, we're not snitching. Nah, fuck that. Nah, we're not snitching. Look, bro, if you gotta look. Unless, look, if it's egregious, then maybe, but I'm not really in the business of, you know, whatever. Yeah, I mean, depends on who's being victimized.

If it's the government. Yeah, let me just make sure i want to read who this sounds like a day that was created by the insurance industry not like someone who's like let me tell you about like someone defrauded my grandparent insurance industry in a backwards hat and on a like having holding a skateboard under their arm yeah what the, this is like a off. Yeah, for sure. It's like, yo, one thing is like we can report Medicare fraud in two different ways. And each one provides very different rules. One is the blow the whistle. One is to blow the whistle under the Department of Justice reward program, which pays 15 to 25 percent of the amount DOJ recovers.

Hey, Snitch Factory. OK. OK. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, Snitch Factory. Okay. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. So I wake in the morning and I step outside in my short, short shorts

to show my pasty thighs and I scream the top of my lungs, der daily zeitgeist. That is courtesy of Johnny Davis, a little What's Up by Four Non Blondes. I don't know why I just turned into a morning zoo DJ, but I did. Got you.

You know, shout out to Linda Perry. Linda Perry. Love her. A little reference to my pasty thighs. It's been a while, but they are still pasty, and I am showing them bad boys off because it is hot in Southern California. How high you got them? How high are the shorts?

Uh, they go like, I'd say Stockton, like Stockton. Yeah. Stockton or like, you know, early Jordan,

like still probably would have been considered baggy for an eighties basketball team. But, uh, right, right, right. Definitely. Uh,

but if it was 95, he'll be like, what you in the village people. Right. Yeah, exactly. Right. Yeah, exactly. Right. Yeah, I wouldn't have been able to,

girls wouldn't have been able to wear these shorts to my Catholic high school. We're in that range. That gives us a range. There you go. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! But everyone is like old teeth, skin loose,

dressing up in costumes, invade, beat down Robbing a pharaoh's tomb, but y'all swear It's because your way is so supreme And everybody's like pissed off, gray sacks Brother to your grandniece, tea stained Island murder for that gold leaf, we don't care Who sits in your tacky ass golden chair And resting Peter Royals

Royals Your country spilled a ton of blood And really fucked Africa up Hey where'd you get all of this stuff Yeah you call yourself rulers Rulers And talk about sovereignty But baby you're fools

You're fools You're fools Just fools From an inbred family tree okay shout out to christy yamaguchi main with that fuck it look some look like we're gonna talk on the show the queen's death has inspired all kinds of activity damn and this we got this guy just from god's lips to his ears to twitter boom thank you christy yamaguchi hacked out christy yamaguchi man beautiful beautiful work beautiful performance beautiful thank you thank

you thank you yeah yeah well miles we are thrilled to be joined by a very funny stand-up comedian writer and poet who you know from such places as tv have you heard about this tv television i heard about it what about harvard review uh Harvard Review. Oh, yeah. What? Her amazing podcast, In Your Hands. It's the hilarious and talented Lizzie Cooperman! Oh, my God. I am beyond thrilled to join you today. Oh, man. We're thrilled

to have you here. It's an honor. Very eclectic credits. They are. Maybe. Your show is so cool oh thank you i wish i had faith in our listeners like that you you turn it's called in your hands because you put your life in the hands of your listeners yeah they get to vote on what it's ruining my life and it's like major shit it's major shit it's absolutely insane I almost started myself on fire a few weeks ago. Yeah.

I had a task rabbit. It's a long story. First, I was trying to put this dresser together. The episode was called Guy I Met or Dresser Roulette. Do I go out with this guy who I met outside a food truck one night at a bar? Or do I play a game of dresser roulette where I go through my phone and text the last 10 romantic interests? Will you help me build an Ikea dresser? This was like a three episode long saga and it ended with me having to call a task rabbit who came over and I saw in the task rabbits bio that he was a fire performer.

What? Yeah. And I asked him about and he goes, bio that he was a fire performer. What? Yeah. And I asked him about it. And he goes, I could pretty safely set you on fire. What? And I was like, you mean like at a comedy show? And he goes, yeah. And I was like, and an episode is born. Yeah.

Wow. And so, yeah. So that was one of the options. So the next episode was called This is Fire or This is Us. Do I let this guy set me on fire at an outdoor comedy show or do I become a tour guide for the TV show This is Us? And I am officially a tour guide for that show now. Wait, what does that mean? i mean i found it in backstage magazine i was just looking up like oh what can i do this week because i always wanted to be something kind of interesting or just have some kind of stakes involved and it said we're seeking people in la to take you know tourists to different locations it would be me basically filming locations yes exactly being like this is where the crock pot blew up that was spoiler spoiler spoiler. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, fuck it. Spoiler alert. That's when they die. That's when we find out. Right? Isn't that when the dad dies? No. That's actually an air fryer. Oh.

I'm still on the second episode. Oh, God. I started watching because too many people were like, yo, it's so emotionally manipulative. I'm like, let me see this. And I'm like, my. Oh, I mean, it's underscored with every scene is delicate piano music. Yeah.

And I keep telling people that like every every episode has at least one monologue based on whatever object is writing in front of them. Right. You know like for you guys it could be like some say life is like a hat put it on right and you know the day is gonna go well but sometimes you can't find your hat right and that's when you lose god or something like that and that's when your dad died yeah exactly because my hat blew off in the wind? And that's when your crockpot blows up. Is he in the middle of a monologue about crockpops being like life when it blows up and kills him? No. No, it's not like that.

It's a little more dramatic. There is a scene, they do that with nachos, and I knew it was coming. I'm watching the scene, and it's a couple late at night. Their marriage isn't going well. They're eating nachos. And the woman goes, you know, life is like a plate of nachos. I'm like, no, I'm starting again. I could feel it coming on.

And she was like, sometimes you get the top nacho that has a lot of cheese on it. And then there's the middle nacho. And that's fine. But sometimes you just get the crumbles. And I don't want the crumbles in this marriage. Right. If we both pick up a nacho that's connected at the same time, I want to figure out how to equitably split that nacho between us and not have it be this

passive aggressive push pull back and forth over who will get the nacho that stuff. Oh my God. There's just a writer in the writer's room. Like, how are we going to work in guacamoleole like they have to figure out every angle i'm not gonna play whack-a-mole with the relationships and our problems like a bowl of whack-a-mole okay i think it's wild when shows have those tropes that are predictable because my wife her majesty uh the one that is alive uh she watches like gray's anatomy and every time like i sit down and watch i'm like what there's always like a seemingly regular thing and then they're like like a pregnant woman's like i gotta go to the hospital then it's like a car accident over out

of nowhere like it always has these weird stakes where she'll even call it she's like watch this person's probably gonna die like inexplicably in three seconds and then they do and i'm like right she's like it's gray and then they tie it up with the monologue at the end yeah gotta love meredith yeah oh man sorry i've been distracted for the past 15 minutes just thinking about how much life is like uh nachos in so many different ways holy shit wait what are the significant locations like when you go on this tour so well she so she sent me the list of locations some of which are i told her i would keep it confidential well i guess i have to keep confidential where they are exactly but it would be like you know this is where someone's office is or this is like

okay because the house interiors and shit right yes exactly okay it would be a lot it's gonna be a lot of time in a hot car probably yeah right and you should definitely go on the tour yeah oh y'all zeitgang if you want to do some fun in la hit up lizzie's uh i think we might have to do it seriously i just have a lot of questions a lot of questions oh okay i don't i haven't seen the show so i don't know about that okay what's next well i'll act out the entire season for you on the tour. Thank you. Okay, I also have these nachos I got from 7-Eleven.

Can you do a monologue on this? Could you possibly string together an interesting metaphor about how my crumbling marriage is like these nachos? Like these feta crumbles? All right. And up next, like, so are you in suspense? Like, are you trying? I can't imagine if there was a regular vote on like what was going to happen in my life. I feel like I would be doing nothing but refreshing. Like, have you found out if you're driving Uber or throwing away half of your belongings this week? I have found out, yes.

I got the results today, Friday. And so they vote every Thursday in my Instagram stories. I wake up either horrified or elated, depending on the results. And then I do the thing right away. Oh my God. So what is it? Well, this is daily.

Well, I reveal it on the next episode. Okay. the next episode. I reveal it on the next episode. We only spoil This Is Us on this show. Right, right, right. Yeah, we will not spoil In Your Hands. But the episode before was called Spots or Slots. And it was, should I try to become a regular at the Laugh Factory and get more stand-up spots? Which auditioning at the Laugh Factory, you have to wait outside at 4.30 p.m.

Like during the heat wave. It's like people sitting out there with like lawn chairs and monster energy drinks, probably doing their act to the wall. You know, people are like practicing. Bleak, bleak. Right. Jack, we should go. And then there was a kind of a gambling option as the other one.

Yeah. It's a lot of fun. People should go check it out. Thank you. All right, Lizzie, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners some of the things we're talking about today. We are going to be talking about the Queen's death and just how it's really put a lot of things into perspective for us. Try not to get too choked up.

really put a lot of things into perspective for us. Try not to get too choked up. We're going to talk about the war over green bubbles versus blue bubbles in the texting apps in our lives. All of that, plenty more. But first, Lizzie, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? I'm going to say 13-gallon magic trash can I found in my search history. What? What's that?

I want the good trash can where you wave your hand over the top and it opens. Just start singing Ave Maria. I'm trying to manifest that trash can. Wait, it's called a magic trash can? It's not called that, but I was just like, what is it called? I think it's called a magic trash can it's not called that but i was just like what is it called i think it's called like a sensor motion sensor when you said that i was like i i took it

literally i'm like oh is this for like a illusion or trick you're going to be doing like on stage it's like i need a 13 gallon i mean either way i'll take it i'm done with the stepping i'm done with the foot pedal trash can. Wow. And that was one thing actually on my podcast that they voted for me to manifest everything on my Amazon wish list by staring at it every morning. And I did like a manifestation workshop also. Nice. Does it work? Does manifesting work? I got one of the items.

That's pretty cool. Yeah. What was the item you got? I am the proud owner of a lightweight duvet cover. Yes. And how did it come into your life? As if by magic?

Yes, almost as if by magic. It flew out of a trash can. Directly out of a motion sensor trash can. A wild burping sound and it just flew up out of a trash can. What else you want, Lizzie? Like, what? Magic.

It actually, it was like two days after they voted for me to start manifesting things on my Amazon wish list. And this was probably, I'm going to say, an item that was

maybe on the less like expensive side. However, two days later, my friend, who's home, I've stayed in her guest room, and I've always thought, this has such a clean feel to it. It's like a white, gorgeous, fresh feeling duvet cover with a yellow floral pattern. And she posted in her Instagram stories, I'm getting rid of this. It's a queen size. Does anybody want it?

That's unbelievable. Yeah, I was truly floored by it. Magic abounds. Make those lists, people. Get those Amazon wishlist. And just stare at them for hours a day. Quit your job and just stare at your list. I was like, I'm going to look at it morning and night.

And also you have to act as if you have it. Oh, my God. Oh, is that the thing? Start waving your hand over the trash can as you use the foot pedal. Right. To slowly welcome that energetically into your heart. Is that what people mean when they say manifesting? Like that you just act as if you have the thing you want?

Well, it depends. I mean, there's several schools of thought. There's like the, you know, the secret. And, you know, then there's like's people getting into law of attraction, Abraham, and that would more tell people to, rather than think about it, just presume that this is something you will attract and don't continue to worry about it. Yeah. Did you ever watch The Secret?

I didn't. I haven't. Oh, there's a scene in there where they're like imagine you're wrapping your hands around the steering wheel you know a car you can hear the engine and then it was like you will get that car and i was like i think i pictured like a dodge omni or something right right i didn't know that that was what it was right you could go big you could go big yeah yeah yeah i it's funny when i was like i had a like a spiritual journey and I was like getting into that and I was like trying to be like, man, how can I manifest this shit? But really, the thing I learned from even interacting with shit like that was more to have like trust in myself more than like, I'm gonna make this shit appear out of thin air.

Right. Let me take the anxieties of lack away from myself and put more like shift to more of a mindset of like confidence of like, you know what? Shit might not be happening right now, but I'm confident I can achieve these things. Yeah. Let me just go down that path rather than like where the fuck my Lambo at. I find it useful. Yeah. I find it useful to just like spend a weekend away. Just letting Tony Robbins absolutely berate me and beat the shit out of me for you know 48 hours in a row and then oh my god I don't actually get the stuff I want and I pay a lot of money for it but I am in his VIP crew right and he only calls you a worthless ugly fucking piece of shit what like four times a day uh what's something you think is overrated okay i i'm really gonna

be a whistleblower here i need to i need to bring the himalayan salt lamp to justice wow okay i've been talking about this on stage a lot because one day it dawned on me that i had been duped and i feel that we all have so many many innocent people. We all took a trip to Ojai or Sedona at some point. Had some salesperson named Beanstalk who smelled like nickels. Convinced us that this had some health benefits or would improve our lives in some way. And what I realized is it doesn't shed light. It's a lamp. it's like reading next it's like if you were to crack open a book in like an underground aquarium that's how much light you're getting it's an ambient glow at best yeah right right right moonlight trying to read

a lot of energy in that holding your book up to the moon natural living ideas tells me that there are actually you're not gonna believe this 10 reasons to have a himalayan salt lamp in every room of your home so oh shit yeah i don't know right well what's crazy is so i thought about it you know i did some research and they're covered in gel so there's no way that the benefits they're covered in gel. So there's no way that the benefits, they're supposed to absorb molecules supposedly. It's basically like the caramel apple of the lighting world. Right. Yeah, the goo on the outside pretty much makes it another thing. I've been told by this article that I just Googled

that they cleanse and deodorize air, reduce allergy and asthma symptoms. Jack, this is the same website you were trying to get me to read when you said I shouldn't get a booster shot. Yeah, yeah. Well, I didn't tell you to not get any booster, just not the one that Bill Gates wants you to get.

Read this article. Some interesting stuff in there. I don't know. It's just worth checking out. Mainly, you can get what you need just through a Himalayan salt. Right, right. It does ease coughing. And it doesn't salt your food. you can get what you need just through a himalayan salt right right it seems like that'll block it all it does ease coughing and it doesn't salt your food right yeah tsa better sleep don't throw it in nevada chili when i saw big ass salt crystal lamps like pop up in like la stores and shit i was like i remember being like i'm sorry what is that they're like it's a himalayan salt lamp uh-huh

and i was like okay and they're like it blah blah blah and i'm like no it fucking're like it's a himalayan salt lamp uh-huh and i was like okay and they're like it blah blah blah and i'm like no it fucking does it that's a rock with a light bulb in it full like the fuck are we talking about i gotta go yes i mean this is only an estimate but i have to think that himalayan salt lamps are giving us environmentally friendly light sources sorry i was going to try and read like one of the statistics but but the language in this article is so like half-assed and like all over the place that i couldn't even like couldn't pull it off you know between 80 and 600 million tons of hps is mined somewhere in the world and it's projected to last for at least another 350 years at the current extraction rate.

I don't know what the- And then no more lamps. Oh, the one thing that people point out, the fallacy there is to get the ions to even produce these kinds of ions that would be beneficial by heating the lamp, because they're saying the bulb heats the lamp and activates it. a bulb heats the lamp and like activates it. They're like, that would have to be 816 degrees Celsius for you to get the kind of like that kind of a reaction out of your salt.

Right. I feel like anything that needs to be activated is a scam. Activated charcoal. We've activated it. Okay. Now it's, now it's mad has magical properties. Yeah.

When someone comes up, she's like, it didn't work. I would always be like, well, did you, is it, did you, is it, did you activate it?

Well, how do you know you did? Okay. Look, I'm late. Okay. My Bentley's about to get out of the shop. I got it.

Oh my God. What is something you think is underrated? Well, the amount of free things you can get on your birthday that you can suck up from a sop up from corporate America. This was another thing they voted for me to do on my podcast was become a birthday freegan. So on my birthday, I went around town and I just redeemed all the free just garbage that I could. It was so fun. I woke up,

went straight to Denny's, got the Grand Slam. Was it really your birthday? It was my birthday. It was August 19th. And do they card you when you're going around doing this stuff? Oh, thank you. She's a white woman, Jack. No, they did not. They said, oh, yeah, I know what it is.

There you go. I mean, wait, so how many, like what else? Okay, so you can get a Grand Slam at Denny's. I didn't accomplish all the things I wanted to, but I went and got the Grand Slam. I did substitute pancakes for French toast. That's an insider secret. Wow. Okay.

You have to sign up on their email thing beforehand, which I didn't, in which case I always now just go, oh, I'm a journalist and I'm actually here. I'm supposed to be writing an article. Like I wear a trench coat to Denny's. Right. Have a little derby hat with the press i was just speaking with denny on the phone exactly so i went to denny's then i naturally hit up big mics or jersey mics wow what can you get a jersey mic a free sub or i found out you can also do a substitution here for my favorite item. Funnily enough. Sub in a tub.

Oh, you sub in a tub? I lay down. I have them place the turkey on my body gently. I'm like, and I do it Mike's way. I keep telling people about that because they were like at the end and they go, do you want it Mike's way? It just felt like the penultimate question. Right, right, right. I'm like, of do you want it Mike's way? It just felt like the penalty question. Right, right, right. I'm like, of course I want it Mike's way.

So you can get breakfast, lunch. Where'd you get dinner? So, well, I ended up going out for my birthday. So I skipped dinner. However, before I met my friends out at a bar, I went to BJ's brew house and got the infamous pazuki the pazuki they give birthday pazukis yes and they are they make them to go if you look at the picture online here's another crazy thing there are so many flavors of pazuki there's there's an unnecessary amount of variety yeah the proliferation ofiferation of pizookie flavors has,

I remember when I was but a boy and it was like very simple. And I remember going like a few years later and I'm like, what has happened here? Right. They're like, it's a short rib. Short rib hollandaise sauce infused. I got the crab leg pizookie. Caramel drizzle. I know about pizookies from, I think, Doughboys, the podcast Doughboys. But I don't think I knew what it was before. So it's a cookie with an ice cream sundae on top of it, basically? Yeah, like a personal pizza pan worth of a cookie.

Oh, yeah. And it used to be pretty straightforward like an a la mode situation but then i went and there was like a trio of pizookies and i was like what oh you want to get a flight of pizookie smiles you want you don't just want to get one pizookie you want to have a whole you want to have a whole flight becca is going off in the chat right now it's in a cast iron skillet. They have a tasting platter. Okay. Okay.

Wait, how did they do the cast iron to go? I can't even, they really truly have it down to a science. I was shocked. And it's crazy because it's free. It's like all we need is the chocolate chip one. Right. Just give me the classic pizookie.

I don't need your spin on it. So I called and I said, she gave me the options. I went with brownie. She told me to go brownie. And so I did feel that I was deviating a little bit from what makes the Pazuki special. Or actually cookies and cream. Sorry, I did cookies and cream. But there was brownie involved.

Right. So I got there and the way that they package it she she went she walked through some mysterious corridor and reappeared with one of those like little tins that you fold over the edge it you fold the edges in like a to-go container thing with the little tin edges yeah exactly with tin edges and it had like instructions on it, like when reheating your pizookie, you know, it was like, they're really clear about how to go about that. And then a little separate ice cream container. And then the topping, which was in a tiny ramekin. I know that word is triggering for people who have worked in restaurants. I have ramekin PTSD a little bit.

Right. Get the ramekin. Yeah. You can do all of this without anything, without like any other purchases. It's not like if you come in and have a full meal, we'll allow you to have a birthday pizookie. You can just roll up and be like, it's my birthday. And they're like, one pizookie, man. Not only that but even if you

just register for bj's brew house online they give you one free so i actually have a pizookie in waiting oh my god you have an equity you have a equity pizookie i do the scam would be to show up with like a off like not a government issued id but an id that a restaurant would be to show up with like a off, like not a government issued ID, but an ID that a restaurant would accept to verify your birthday. You know what I mean? They're going to be like, I'm sorry, I can't take this for like, it has to be a driver's license to get the pizookie. But like, then you just print off your own bullshit IDs. You fucking eating for just rotate where you go. Every day is your fucking birthday.

Another restaurant that does that is norms, which I believe is specific to California. Yeah. Norms. Okay. So yeah, do your research, find out what local establishments you can be scamming.

Yes. Yes. Get a laminating machine and start a fake ID business on the side. Maybe if you want to as well, I don't know. Commit fraud to get a free cookie. Yeah, they're committing fraud too. What the fuck's the problem?

Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. It was honestly thrilling. And I thought, I can't believe I haven't done this any other year. It felt like a scavenger hunt.

Right. For sickness. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I would be like Tyrone Biggums in that Chappelle show bit, going into every place. I'm like, y'all doing a birthday deal?

Just go down the street every fucking business I go to and just clean up. I don't give a fuck. Incredible. Let's take a quick break to just drink all that in that we just learned. I feel like I need to make some plans for the weekend right now.

I think I need to get a fake ID. And then we'll come back and we'll talk about, you know, the news that's on everyone's mind or at least on every outlet's front page. And that is the death of the queen. A lot of takes, a lot of takes. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. cast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted,

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And this event hath created many a reaction from around the world, from former colonies demanding their shit back to Kanye seeing the light. It is clear that this was a significant event for many people in their own ways. Kanye, for real, just is like, this really put some shit into perspective for me. So stupid. He put life is precious on his Instagram. Releasing all grudges today. Leaning into the light.

Best wishes and blessings to Pete, Cudi, and Daniel Cheery. Yeah. Amazing. He's watching all his beefs. So crazy. Yeah. Did he actually post that with a black background? There was one where apparently he posted one where the queen had Yeezy shades on. No.

Yes, and it deleted it. That's alleged that there was a post that went up with her in shades and it's like, okay, never mind. Let me pay some more respect. And the one that's on his page now are like pictures of her and her youth this kind of makes me wonder what he was like in elementary school right because i used to do stuff like this like if a paper was due i'd have to put my unique spin on it like right i you know i'm not gonna do a book report but I'll choreograph a dance with flashlights. You know, I think a little bit differently, Mrs. Campbell.

This is my skin. Yeah. I mean, I guess it was it really shook him to his core. So he is no longer going to go after that. I mean, bless his heart. I'm sure he'll say some wild shit pretty quickly. More collages to come. Yes, exactly. But looking around, you know, you look at the people of South Asian colonies, former

South Asian colonies, and just as a primer, you know, the British extracted over a minimum $40 trillion from the subcontinent between 1765 and 1938. So, you know, a lot of fucking wealth was stolen from that. And one of the main ways that occurred was like through basically the british would collect taxes on goods in india then use the taxes those funds they just collected to then buy shit from these people and then send it to england or sell it on for fucking you know astronomical fees to other countries but essentially they're just like inbuilt theft which is the main because that number 40 trillion is um that's based on what's recorded yeah that's

what that that but it's such a big number that i had a hard time getting my mind around it and so like the gdp of the united states right now in the year 2022 is 24.88 trillion so yeah that that is an entire united states that was stolen from them and more yeah and more and way more and again that's based off the records they could find that's why again historians that actually have an eye on this kind of shit they're like this is again at a fucking minimum where they kept the receipts they were like we're gonna do this theft and keep receipts for right which not always the first instinct like then redeem it for a free pazuki right and a lot of historians been like it would have been a lot more clear if the person who's collecting taxes and then the quote-unquote buyer

of goods was actually just the same person. But really, one person came for the taxes and then someone was like, hello, I'm here to buy this thing. Just so you know, my pockets are filled with the money that they just shook you down for. Okay, here you go. And I'll take that and you have nothing again. So yeah, I think reparations might be in order there as many people have pointed out. But one of the most controversial stolen items from the former colony is the Koh-i-Noor diamond. And it's breathtaking. At the time, it was one of the most controversial stolen items from the former colony is the the koi nur diamond and it's breathtaking you know at the time was one of the largest diamonds on earth so naturally it had to be taken to be given as a gift to queen victoria to put in her crown and the diamond is valued

right now like 400 million dollars other people just simply describe it as priceless and this is something the british government has refused to give back on numerous occasions. I think right now it's in like the Tower of London Museum or something. And eventually, I believe Camilla will probably also get to rock that thing. Wow. Deservingly so. I mean, she's put up with so much, so much. She's just a fun time. We did it, Joe. We did it, Joe. You know, she's having a she really did it. But again, this has been something the British government has always been like, ah, we're not really giving that shit back. Like straight up, right? How do you give it back?

I'm picturing... I mean, the way in which you would have to deliver. I'm picturing Daenerys Targaryen. Or would you be really sly about it? Just sneak it in with their postmates. Right. I don't know. You know,

well, considering how fucking rigid they've been in terms of like reckoning with the history of colonial rule there. I don't know what they do. Like David Cameron, when he visited India once, he was asked directly about returning the diamond. His quote back was literally,

they're not having that back. they're not having that back. They're not having that back. Right. Like someone's like Deadwood DVD set. The thing you have that is theirs? They're not having that back? Yeah, they're not having that back. They're like, if you bring it back within 300 years,

you get a store credit. Right. Who knows what they're going to... So now many South Asians are asking like, what's good you know now that elizabeth is dead and it began trending like alongside her death like pretty much instantly on twitter we're like okay now what's up like we this we we're not forgetting about this fucking epic theft like iran pakistan afghanistan and india they all consider this diamond stolen goods, despite the British insistence that it was a gift that we acquired the legally.

So, you know, let's just, let's just fucking, let's just call it that. But more than that, I think for a lot of people, just sort of the,

the reluctance to return the diamond sort of underscores is how the British government has just refused to really reckon with all of the atrocities of their colonial rule and i think that's a big part of it as well and again i'm speaking as speaking on this as an american very superficially but it's wild to just see like again many countries have many things that they consider stolen and it's just the second this thing happens they're like please you have a reckoning with this, like the one thing which is wild is because people there seems to be like monarchists who are like, this is a song day. Like we shouldn't, you know, let's just like really I don't have the words to speak. While many others are like, let me break down that. Like my parents were born under colonial rule.

Here are the things that I know. And so it's just a very. under colonial rule here are the things that i know and so it's just a very the the royalist take that you just described seems to also be the mainstream media take like it's all been like we we treat this very solemnly like we at lego like need to like post a black and white picture of like a lego figure of the queen and be like we're we're heartbroken and in mourning over here and you know i have a friend who's over there and had tickets to a comedy show and they just canceled it like the like comedians were like we this is no time to laugh was kind of how it seemed to me. There's also like a great CNN clip

where they're interviewing a bunch of people in London on the street. And they're like, how do you feel? Like, you must be absolutely gutted, right? That's what you guys say? Right. And the person they interview is like, oh, I don't really care

because of colonialism and oppression and her son being a pedophile who used the power of the crown to like like you know prey on people should i say more and they're like fair enough yeah they said fair enough he he did push her he was like uh no i wonder why why you would say such a thing and she just said all that and he was like oh fair enough okay over here we have some americans you're not a hater are you yeah so i wonder i'm wondering if it's i mean i guess american media does this

shit when like you know ronald bragg and or george hw bush or like these people who are essentially war criminals die like they do all get all solemn even though uh these are people who are monsters but like we you definitely wouldn't see comedy shows being canceled. Right. Or so I guess I'm wondering, is it that they are afraid they just like don't want to put up with the bullshit from like the, you know, Fox News viewer equivalent over there? Like they just don't want to put the energy forward. But it's just part of, you know, but that part of that it's been, know the monarchy has just been so yeah it's a big part of the culture there so i can imagine for them it's just like because of that i guess it resonates in a completely different way whether you give a shit or not but yeah see why out of like the whatever decorum that is always you know like the sense of decorum

that's given to the the crown and all this like is it is it a U.S. president dying? Like, a former U.S. president dying was what I had equated it to, but it might be more like a city U.S. president dying or, like, a president being assassinated or something like that. That feels like how they are treating it, even though she was fucking 96. I think we, yeah,

we'd relate more if our presidents wore hats. That's kind of the main thing i'm missing well our greatest president did it was a big red one and nobody liked it oh right oh my god wow okay but i think you know yeah it's it it is again interesting to see all of like people come out with their takes and people being aghast with some of other people's like how could you say that and it reminds me of like the summer of 2020 you know yeah fucking white supremacist violence has been such a inbuilt part of american culture barely heard the words white supremacy yeah during that time we heard about police violence and we talked around it and i think at the end of the day this because so much of the critics like the anger is born out of the empire and what that stands for, that it's then I can't see the BBC being like, now let's kind of run downings with like with our truly fucked up pasts like on a scale like that.

But don't worry, though, not everyone is going fucking woke 5000 on us, because while, you know, many people were getting their jokes off, Tucker Carlson was absolutely fucking disgusted with how these people were talking about one of the greatest empires ever on our planet. And I'm just going to play a bit of him just talking about the good old days. To this day, Britain claims to have won both of the 20th century's world wars, but together they destroyed that nation forever. After victory came humiliation. The empire evaporated,

and along with it, Britain's self-confidence and ultimately its self-respect. It's hard to believe now, but Britain wasn't always a regional banking center slash refugee camp. Whoa. Oh my God. You ready? You ready? You ready? You ready? Here we go. No. Real place with a history and a language and a culture and a genuinely remarkable people.

Oh. A country in the North Atlantic the size of Alabama that somehow took over the world and ruled it with decency unmatched by any empire in human history. Somehow ruled it with decency. Wow. Okay. But again, you see how he's already, he's using this already to be the, you know, evaporation of white culture, white genocide,

by talking about how to turn in his refugee camp. It used to have culture. Okay, we'll go on. The British Empire was not perfect, but it was far more humane than any other ever it's gone now barely even remembered queen elizabeth ii was the last living link to a truly great britain uh-huh uh he goes on to talk about what like in africa he's like look at what happened when the british left you have idiom mean and like goes down all these like autocrats and he's like and now china

is their new ruler i bet they're begging for the british to come back wow no they're fucking not and also i can't this the most humane fucking empire ever that that is that's just that is that's a premise that does not exist those Those are antithetical concepts. That is the benefit of having an audience that doesn't read. Because I can just make shit up. You can be like, they were so nice, you guys. Like, you don't have to read about any British Empire history, you guys. They were like, so nice. Living under British rule was like, super tight.

They loved it. And you can believe me because behind me is a photo of a lion. The graphics they're using are so bizarre. One just like an old-timey like buggy and then it switched to a graphic of a lion next to the right exactly and i mean like colonization is all about power dominance subjugation nothing there's nothing fucking humane about that shit there's just you can't engage with it in a humane way because that that's just not how it works it's like saying oh they're the most humane fucking murderer right yeah okay right i'm like if you're out there murdering people there's no humane way to do it if you're out there kicking people off of their land saying oh this this is shit this shit's mine also you work

here now i don't give a fuck what you say or else i'll kill you that's nothing fucking humane about that but again obviously someone with like a white supremacist agenda would speak glowingly of a society that clearly just put people into like categories of human or non-human. Right. So no, no real surprises there. Right. And so then immediately after that, he brought on some people who lived under British rule. Right. I have to assume to just like talk.

Yes. Speak glowingly about how dope it was. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. A bunch of cool characters that people would remember. He's like, and what would Pocahontas have said?

Right. Like, what are you fucking talking about? Right. Fucking terrible for everybody. So, yeah, it's just,

it's interesting how, again, like what we see from the, like just from outside of England, like what those responses are. You have many people saying, like, we do not forget the fucking terrors of living under this rule. Right. And like, let's maybe rectify that. And then again, this is also given fodder to like ghouls like fucking Tucker Carlson.

Like make it about how. He's really using the soft focus filter i don't know if they're using some kind of new lens on fox news not to be superficial but i'm looking at no it feels it looks like an interview on real house wives right like a talking head segment from real housewives it's very soft glow about soft glow there's definitely a touch of juvederm involved. But shout out to his representative. They got to argue that. They got to get that in the contract. His glam squad. Got to be shot with a nice bloom.

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And yeah, this has been a thing for a long time the war over the green bubble versus blue bubble people i've never understood the the hate that people get for having an android yeah but but it's real it's real people are like oh fucking green fucking wet green yeah what the heck it's a look if you're like you're into some brand derived aesthetic that much like no someone's text message going blue is not going to save you but whatever that's a whole other conversation yeah i look down on people who are like that with apple shit but then like i when when i was growing up, I was like, why are you wearing Reeboks, dude? Right, right, exactly.

Really? Yeah. Well, I thought at basketball camp, my one pair of Jordans was like the... I wore those for three years in a row until they hurt my toes just because I was like, this is the only acceptable thing to wear. Would you ever wear the gloves for feet, the five finger Vibram shoes? What's your take on those? Wearing those on a basketball court is actually fucking hilarious

and I wish I had done that. It would piss everybody off. I feel like that's going to be the next thing. I feel like the Vibram they're called Vibram five finger shoes. I feel like they're going to be the new Crocs. That's my prediction.

Oh, they're going to usurp Crocs? I really think so because, not to bring up my show again, but they voted one week on whether I should try to make those popular. And the next week, someone screenshotted those shoes on the runway. They were like, it's happening. People are wearing gloves on their feet. Get ahead of it, yo. Get ahead of it, folks.

I've had socks that are like that. Yeah, for the winter. Yeah, my toes don't fit into them because of the toes. I do have finger toes. It's funny that they call them five-finger shoes because I do have toes that are the size of fingers. Do you have Morton's toe? Tall second toe? I have, yes.

I do. An extremely tall second toe. Guess what? You're both geniuses. Yes. And taller than my dad is what they say in Japan. Oh, really? Is that right? That's what that means? Yeah. If that toe's bigger than the other one, it's like you'll be taller than your father. For me, it just means I can pick up garbage off the floor and pull out the trash can and put it away with my feet. You're like, my feet qualify as talent.

Put it away with my feet. You're like, my feet qualify as talent. Watch me toss this pizza dough with my feet. But anyway, back to the Android versus iPhone debate. So I was an early fucking Android adopter. Like I had the fucking G1 when it came out, like from T-Mobile. I think one of the first Android phones that came out. I had the Nexus one. I was all fuck.

I lived that fucking life in the early tens and at the time i really enjoyed the fact that android is just a little more open but like you could run all kinds of apps on it like it just was like a computer like put whatever the fuck you want on here like a super nintendo emulator like go on go ahead whereas like apple's like i'm like you don't know if we don't fuck with it and we don't approve it it's not going to be there so i was always like man fuck that shit right right and then as iphones became more popular in my friend groups and like just around like in media where i was working i just sort of began to grow frustrated with how disjointed texting would be sometimes if i was like sending a picture or early on god forbid a fucking group chat where like shit would come to me like in

separate texts from people and i'm like what the we can't handle this so i switched to the apple shit in like 2014 just kind of yeah i know look at first bill gates was outside of your house ripping open his shirt you coward it's wild because the first time like any computing device i had was like is apple so at that point i was like oh shit this will just kind of streamline everything but i'd be lying if i didn't say there was also just a bit of like wanting to avoid having to explain to people that yes in fact i was using a nexus one or like android phone right in this like work chat yeah i will like, so my sister-in-law has been staying on the, you know, on the non iPhone grind for like since day one. Her pictures have always looked much better than anyone else's pictures.

She like they're always I feel like the iphone is catching up even though people like are like the camera's actually really awesome like whatever phones she's using like are always ahead of the iphone at least the samsung cameras yes samsung cameras typically are and that's why like even with a lot of reviews of the new iphone 14 or whatever mac pro or whatever they're like oh shit still ain't doing the shit on the galaxy that shit got like a space zoom on it like you could zoom fucking damn near to the next state yeah i have a samsung also as as my backup phone nice i should make it as a backup i know i know why what i like about it is it's textural like it has like a gold like scaly texture to it oh got you got you

know right I feel like they're not afraid to take a risk when it comes to textile right but this like war has been fucking raging on you know for a minute and it's like before it's

always just been I think played out through peer pressure, right? Like there was this article in the wall street journal that was like asking a lot of young people about like what their relationship is to like the green bubble or whatever. And a lot of them were like, some people have been like, I've been apologetic for turning a combo green or like other people.

Like I feel cringy. Like when they, somebody new texts me and the shit's green, like, like that, like that, like that thinking exists. And I think Google has definitely knows that peer pressure is on Apple's side.

So in this ward, now they have gone to full propaganda mode and they're basically saying, okay, I'm sorry. Let me, let me back up a second. Google has said, look,

there is a way for Android and imessage to communicate better it's through this like format called like rcs that like we've developed it will it will make things much more seamless because right now you either use sms or mms like old school texting to tech like go between because imessage is its own thing and they're saying like apple if you just adopt this everything's gonna be all good and apple's been like no fuck out of here they're like we're never doing that shit tim cook recently was asked directly about it like well what can people look forward to in regards to the green bubble thing and he said buy your grandma an iphone wow wow he said that's how you could solve it i feel like they just need a better

like a green campaign right like something needs to be by way, did you know green is the color of the heart chakra? Oh, good to know. That is kind of a sick burn from Tim Cook, by the way. Blue is the throat. The throat is gross. Yeah. What would you rather text with your heart or your throat? Right, right, right.

Just that shot of Joffrey from Game of Thrones turning blue. Just all that blue shit coming up. Be like, oh, this you? This is how you want to end up huh okay okay do you then do you but like they have a full-on tiktok propaganda campaign going on where they're like posting like the most heavy-handed shit to be like oh man if only apple would come around to RCS or whatever, then we could all live in harmony. I'm going to play you one of these videos because it's just. Oh, this feels different.

Oh, it's wild. It's wild. It's like it's one of these TikTok videos where one person is like playing all the characters having a conversation about how having an Android phone fucked up their life. I'm late, y'all. I was leaving my new boo's house. A new boo. Give us the details. Well, I want to show him to y'all, but I'm scared. life. is that even a video of exactly that's my point well you know apple does that on purpose to make texting with everyone else suck right i'm sorry what no girl it's true even though there's a

better way apple uses an old texting system when communicating with android devices like okay government propaganda a couple notes of all, way too many characters. She's too keen to track them. So each of those, like I know listening, it sounded like a person kind of giving a monologue, but each of those, it was six characters. In seemingly different locations. Yeah, different locations. The script is like exterior strip mall.

Yeah. Exterior grandmother's house. Hard to track. But also, it opens with POV of your new love, something. That's a TikTok thing, right? They say POV, but it's definitely, it's like the opposite of POV. Is that okay? We're all right with that?

We've moved beyond that? Well, it's one of the maybe parties of the conversation. But yeah, look, we're using we're using familiar formats to hammer through a very inelegant message. They even had one where Kiki Palmer did a full blown fucking sketch on her Instagram where she's talking to her diary. Kiki Palmer. And she's like she even posted like with the same hashtag called hashtag get the message where she's like, it's time to help at Apple hashtag get the message hashtag ad where she's even there like, and I can't believe it, diary. Let me tell you the reason why it doesn't work is because Apple doesn't want to convert to this other system. They want to stay in the stone. this don't like kind of shit it's like oh my it's wild how much people like how like it's a full court press from google to be like we got to get more of the message out there to try and pressure

it but it's that's sort of the state of things right now and it's wild because like i think most of us i don't give a fuck about green bubbles obviously because i used to be one but the messages get through that's all i needed to do it just speaks again to how much like a brand-based aesthetic and like how we align our purchases with like our identities. Right. Taking over our thinking to this extent. Yeah. Oh, you like you're going to fucking avoid a person because they made a different consumer choice.

Right. Wow. I'm having some memories here. Yeah. I was I was I've been purchased shamed before. Yeah. I remember in high school, all my friends had rollerblades. I went to target and I was like, these are only $50.

I bought them. I went rollerblading with my friends. Mine were so slow. Like I was going at the same pace, but I just like couldn't keep up. And then like we, we all, they all had to stop and wait for me. And they looked at my rollerblades and they go, Oh, your wheels are hollow. It was like clicking when they hit the street. I bought my rollerblades.

You bought like, okay. They were a toy of rollerblades. I don't know if it's the best analogy, but like this is conjuring that. Because I feel like there's something classist about it. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Immediately like, yeah, I was rollerblade shamed. And so I relate to the people cringing at the bubble.

Yeah. Like the shame or the shit they buy is like this. So whack. Fucking sad ass way to like give yourself self-esteem. But also like so second nature. Like kids do it like immediately. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You mean off brand snacks? Right. You nature, like kids do it like immediately. Oh, yeah.

You mean off-brand snacks? Right. You know, like what? I got shark bites. Oh, you got little fucking, I don't know, the fuck are those things? I don't know, you know? Yeah. Right.

We have to free ourselves. I don't know. Maybe they could combine color. Why not turquoise bubbles? Right. So I don't know what the best thing for Google and Samsung, like the non-iPhones, is to do, but I don't think this is going to succeed. I mean, they're coming from a position of weakness, right?

We all just kind of admit we're nerds for caring. Right. Yeah. Like how invested are you in the color of the message you receive? Yeah. I have a very active group inter-platform group chat with Android. That's so progressive of you, Miles. Thank you, man. I like to call it a green bubble mess like some people do.

But like even then, like I remember in the early on, like one of the people would send something like, God, I can't see the GIF. But then we already know what the GIF is because everyone's so literate in GIFs. Like, oh, okay, it's that one. That things pass very quickly. And really at the end of the day, it's just about, can you communicate with each other? Yes, you can. Right.

But why are we also just communicating so often through text? Yeah. I also have never noticed it before. And I think that's not because I'm above it and more because I just have a broken brain that doesn't just... Very limited bandwidth for shit like that. Because I had expensive rollerblades. Right. Because I have the nicest rollerblades. Right. Because I have the nicest

rollerblades. I am on rollerblades at most times. I'm too busy focused on that to notice what color your bubbles are. To the point that, Miles, when you put this story into the doc and I read the headline, I was like,

okay, is this some sort of gender reveal thing? The war over green bubbles versus blue bubbles is reaching its propaganda phase i was like all right this is gonna be like a gender reveal right you're like what is this i didn't even know what it meant damn you just transcend man i'm just like and like that's why you just need to subscribe to my program it's called the actual secret secret yeah and it's it's called blue bubbles abound oh my god when what was the beginning of this divide probably the second iMessage like became its full-fledged own platform so it's always been okay yeah it's been like this for a minute we need to all go back to blackberry yeah yeah Yeah. Yeah. Research in Motion, the company that makes BlackBerry, would thank you

for even saying those words out loud. Research in Motion is the name of the company. RIM. That's pretty weak. Research in Motion? Yeah, they're dealing with, look, they're dealing with a lot of it.

Oh my God, RIM. I got a job at Research in Motion. I got a RIM job. A RIM job. Yeah. There you go. Hey. Bring it back home, folks.

That deserves a RIM shot. Buy Your Grandma home, folks. That deserves a rim shot. Buy Your Grandma an iPhone is a sick burn by Tim Cook because he's coming from a position of strength and I'm sure has a writing team. But that's a great economy of language on that burn. By the way, when I said my other phone was a Samsung, my main one is a Sidekick. I just want everyone to know.

Hey, shut up. I love a Sidekick. I just want everyone to know. Hey, shut up. I love a Sidekick. I think we got real Sidekick energy from you throughout this episode. I was there too. I feel that. Thank you. That's why I bought the G1, the first Android phone, because it was like a turnt up Sidekick. Right. It had like a full touchscreen that you

could slide a physical keyboard up and I was like y'all don't fucking know about this shit. Oh my god. I miss that. I want to hold myself on like a hot dog. That's what the and I was like, y'all don't fucking know about this shit. I want to hold my cell phone like a hot dog. That's what the sidekick was like. Right, right, right. Oh, man. I got one of my two-way pagers around here. Do you really? Just handy? Oh, yeah.

I want to hold it like a Jersey Mike sub. This is my Motorola two-way pager from 2003. Wow, look at that. It's called a TimePort. Could you type up something pretty confidently without looking like do it because you're in class man this shit was so cumbersome and hard to use like the most i would flex with it like at the club i would have my big white t-shirt on and like a big chunky belt and then you got to put your two-way on there so people knew you

had a fucking two-way right and then i would go up and i would literally be like oh i'm getting a text and it would do the sound from holla back young and it would go and i'm like anyway i feel like you could be a courtroom stenographer with that yeah that is the most you could do like on this thing was you got weather you could get sports scores from like three leagues and flight information the email sucked but the messaging was okay. I feel like simplifying would be good for all of us. I think we should all. Oh, yeah.

I think the key here is moving backward. Yeah. I saw an NFL or no, it was a college football coach was bragging about how his quarterback is so like locked into into just football that he has a flip phone. He's a different breed, man. He's got a flip phone. He doesn't even have social media. This guy's locked in. He's free. That man is free.

Or he has crippling anxiety and he's doing the healthiest thing for him. I don't know which one it is, but he's locked in. That would be good if that became the cool thing. Does he bring it on the field? He is actually very good uh apparently yeah he won a national title last year does he carry the phone on oh does he carry the field i thought you were like being like okay steven a smith yeah he does bring it on the field actually lizzie yeah but does he bring it on the field so funny i don't think i've ever said bring it in my life.

It seemed out of character, but I was just, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Does he bring it on? He won a national title and he was a walk-on previously. So it's actually a pretty inspiring story. Thank you for asking. How exciting. Does my guy bring it on the field? I hope my guy brought it.

I need to know for my fantasy. Oh, my God. Oh, shit. Lizziezie so much fun having you on the zeitgeist it's been nothing short of a pleasure where can people find you follow you all that good stuff follow me at Lizzie Cooperman L-I-Z-Z-Y Cooperman

listen to my show Lizzie Cooperman's in your hands and also another thing they voted for me to do on the show and the reason I talk about it all the time is it's my whole life right now. I have no other existence. I have to do all the things they voted for. Yeah. I don't know how you could. Yeah. So when you say shoes, I'm like five finger shoes, my brain, my brain is just a mobile of like all this trauma that I've been experiencing week after week due to these choices. But yes.

Oh, they voted for me to become a professional tarot reader also. So if you want a tarot reading. I saw that on your website. Yeah. Yes. If you want a reading, and I actually do tarot. There's a gorgeous tab that says readings. Amazing.

Go there. We can do a reading on your favorite website, zoom.com. So those are the places to find me and come see a show if you can. Yeah. Or take the, uh, you know, this is us tour. Yeah. Come see me on the tour. I hope it happens. I don't have the schedule yet. Yeah. She was like, I need to connect you with the other tour guide. And I was like, you mean the one who's not doing this? Ironically, it's so hard to meet people who love the show like I do. There's a meetup at my house to watch This Is Us reruns on Friday nights

that you should be at. You just get indoctrinated into the This Is Us community. Oh, don't throw that paper cup away. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought it was trash. No, Milo Ventimiglia drank from that one. It's what you cry into. Yeah. It's the weeping cup. I breathe it in as I weep. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying?

Oh, I took that literally as media because I'm in the middle of reading Clan of the Cave Bear right now by Jean M. Owl. Okay. And that is the plan of the cave bear go back and watch the movie from 1986 starring daryl hannah that's my piece of media it's a 1980 novel yes it's based in prehistoric times the reason i'm reading it yeah it's also part of the thing it's all part of the thing yeah right so i'm supposed to be reading this. And this week they're deciding, should I become an Uber driver who only listens to the Clan of the Cave Bear audiobook in my car? And what was the initial impetus? Was it that this is a bad book or what? How did you initially or you and your listeners initially become interested in this? Can I say SEX on the show? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay.

This was the first sex scene I ever saw in my life. It was the first act of sex. My parents were watching it in the living room and I ran downstairs and I, or I was like peeking around the corner and I saw Daryl Hannah on the TV screen, like on all fours, like, and I go, what are they doing to her?

And my parents were like, go back upstairs, get out of here. It's been in my mind forever. Like that image it's imprinted. And so it came up in the podcast because I was scared of the bear that lives in Eagle Rock called the Eagle Rock bear. I live in Eagle Rock and there was a bear walking around my neighborhood. And then they just saw two bears on the 210 freeway headed to Pasadena. Yes. They're out here. They were wearing Palazzo pants.

Headed to Pasadena. And so I know they're around. I know there are bears in the vicinity. So the original thing was I'm going to walk to and from my friend's house every day to let out his dog. And while I do it, I'm going to listen to and from from my friend's house every day to let out his dog and while I do it I'm going to listen to Clan of the Cave Bear and both of these things will help me to overcome my fear of the eagle rock bear who I hope is alive and well much respect to all the bears listening but big fans of the show I didn't finish the book because it got too hot out so I said well now I need to finish this this thing you voted for but should i do it now as an uber driver and make all the passengers you know all these innocent passengers expose

them to the work of gm owl amazing so we'll see what happens miles where can people find you and follow you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray um there's a basketball podcast that's been i think described as one no not one of it's actually described as the dumbest basketball podcast yeah on earth it's called miles and jack got mad boosties uh you should check that out it's an nba podcast and also if you like 90 day fiance check me and sophia alexandra ranting about it on our other podcast for 20 day fiance because it's a good time i love sophia like oh yes i mean she can't go wrong with her she's

she's the goat uh okay first one from nat guest at unfortunately uh tweeted can't believe they're going to make a man queen this woke nonsense has gone too far. And then at Joe underscore climbs tweeted, what the world really needs right now is the highest profile coffin flop of all time. Oh, right. Wait, is the funeral invite only? I mean, there's probably, there'll probably be a procession through the streets.

Okay. You know? Wow. Yeah. Oh man. Okay. I'm like, is it invite? Like I'm expecting an man. Okay. I'm like, is it invite? Like, I'm expecting an invite.

Yeah. I'm like, mine hasn't arrived yet. And should I check my spam folder? Right. Did you guys get your invite? Okay. I'll look. I'll look later.

A tweet I've been enjoying. Ember Nick tweeted, if you're in line for the throne, stay in line. Oh, my God. I finally found a tweet that wasn't related to the queen dying. And it's the outtakes of NASA astronauts trying to walk on the moon are amazing. Yo, it is so strange. They can't walk. They keep falling over.

I don't know if it's their costumes i don't i guess that's not what you call them their suits their space suits are the costumes they don't do the costume things are like weirdly weighted or something but like you when you get on the moon and you get into like that half gravity that they're working with up there you apparently cannot walk and you just like fall it's wild how like i saw that clip too how they are trying to reckon with their own like it there are many times where their center of gravity goes over too far and they're like oh here i go oh my god they should do sumo on the flopping they do to get back up was probably the funniest shit i've ever seen yeah they just like

hop and push back up. But it is wild. It looks like shitty breakdancing. Can you weightlift on the moon? You could. You might throw the weights into the vacuum of space, though. That seems to be the main issue. It really made me want to go onto the moon.

I would do that just with a football and be like, watch this. Right. Throw it off the moon. Oh, my God. Yeah, I did that. What was that Sandra Bullock movie where she's spinning gravity i think about that that's pretty much the it epitomizes anxiety that movie for me and when you watch this when you watch these clips against the hill bloom on twitter

my immediate thought was like these are the most uncoordinated motherfuckers i've ever seen like astronauts are coordinated right they're like little coordinated strong guys who are good at math dude i'm can i'd imagine walking on another fucking surface of a moon with its own gravitational pull like that's got to be like trying to like walk as the most fucked up you've ever been but like nothing makes sense like you replace your like feet with fucking cinder blocks yeah all kinds of shit i saw a crow walking like one of these guys was walking i realized like oh because they have hollow bones like they just kind of naturally hop around like that they have morton's toe yeah they they did have morton's toes a very intelligent crow which they're pretty intelligent. When you find out you're king, does it

come in a blue bubble or a green bubble? These are the questions that... Did he find out by test? Yo, queen just died. He cringes. Ugh, green. I think I'm gonna abdicate.

Yeah, I'm good. The least inspiring leader I've ever seen or heard of. King Charles. Don't you think it's weird how old you are when you get good news in that family? Right. Like that never happens here. It's never, you know, you would be, I mean, I guess some politicians, like I guess for Biden. But politics are maybe the only field.

All our politicians. You're never an 80-year-old orthodontist. Like, you're not maybe the only field. All our politicians. You're never an 80 year old orthodontist. Like you're not going to believe it. Right. Exactly. Mr. Your life has changed. Right.

Your life. Finally. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. And on the podcast, miles and Jack got mad boosties. It is an NBA endorsed podcast. Like we partnered with the NBA and Jack got mad boosties. It is an NBA endorsed podcast. We partnered with the NBA and then made the dumbest

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and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? Oh, man. This one's called Strange Breathin' from

Jyster. J-Y-S-T-E-R-E. And this track is, it's like, this artist is cool. Very, like, DIY, Breathing from Jyster. J-Y-S-T-E-R-E. And this track is... It's like this artist is cool. Very like DIY, like Afrofuturism, like bedroom funk hip hop. It's just... It's different. And like the bass playing is dope on it. Like the DIY...

You'll hear how DIY it is, but like in the most... Like it gives it so much character. So check this out. It's a really interesting track, Strange Breathing by Justir. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen

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