The Daily Zeitgeist - Racist Rhetoric Repeating, Law & Order: Havana Syndrome Unit 05.17.22

Episode Date: May 17, 2022

In episode 1249, Jack and Miles are joined by rapper and host of Hood Politics, Propaganda to discuss... Racist Republican Rhetoric…, Replacement Theory Motivation Behind Buffalo, Pittsburgh, El Paso, Law & Order Tackles Havana Syndrome, For Some Reason and more! Replacement Theory Motivation Behind Buffalo, Pittsburgh, El Paso We Can’t Talk About the Racist Massacre in Buffalo Without Talking About Capitalism Liberals Blocked on Gun Control, Call for a New Domestic Terror Law After the Shooting Law & Order Tackles Havana Syndrome VISIT: prophiphop.com/ LISTEN: Two Chords & The Truth by Myele ManzanzaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And also National Graduation Tassel Day. I guess shout out to those tassels. This is the day that also national graduation tassel day i guess this is the day that you like get your tassel right in preparation for i don't know you get your tassels out and you kind of look back and you're like i did that eighth grade i did that fifth grade kindergarten nailed it right right is tassels the thing that people hang on to? I feel like... I couldn't tell you where the fuck any of mine are. Yeah. I feel like I threw mine up and that was it.

Probably in a box in my mom's house. Yeah. I have it because my mom sent it to me and it remains in a closet. And it's so big that the closet door can never close around it the big one the big oh yeah we want big we want big oh i want that i told i told my mom when i graduated she's like okay you're gonna get the diploma i'm like they're trying to charge me fucking money fuck that i have it don't worry if there's ever a question they can find out but i don't i know i went through that i have a diminished brain cell count that proves it

anyways my name is jack o'brien aka potatoes o'brien i think i'm taking a break from aka's because miles bodied that nine to five taco bell aka so thoroughly. Thank you so much. I mean, that's half at Waffle House. Yeah, yeah, you guys together. It was a team effort. It was a work of art. As Roger Ebert said about Cameron Crowe when Vanilla Sky came out, Cameron Crowe needs to take a stop, quit making films, and think about why he wanted to do it in the first place. That's how much he didn't like Vanilla Sky.

Sheesh. Just the meanest thing I've ever read in a movie review. So I always think about it. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Doolene, Doolene, Doolene, Doolene Go to Circle K to get that purple can Okay, shout out to Nikki9Lives, at Nikki underscore 9Lives on Twitter Keeping the, you know, the wonderful Dolly Mountain Dew Taco Bell just energy up

Which is, I like how Doolene actually works because They were calling that that new purple mountain dew purple drink or whatever so i was like wait is it mountain dew with lean but i guess do lean is really the only way to yeah call it now yeah so and also the best version of that song is screwed so it does sound a little bit like, you know, she's been sipping some lean. Playing that, what is it, playing it at 33 RPM. Yeah, 33 RPMs. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined by a brilliant poet, political activist,

academic emcee, and podcast host of the must-listen Hood Politics with Prop on Cool Zone Media. Please welcome the brilliant and talented jason petty aka propaganda what up what up what up what up west west west west west west west coast yeah i'm saying what's new what's new hey man nothing changed but the weather you know i'm saying there it is like the old folks would be like hey you know i'm saying same shit dip deck little no exactly exactly tell you something real some sort of some sort of can't complain wouldn't do nothing anyway so you're you're in uh atlanta georgia can you are you able to tell people that that

you're you're out there yeah yeah no i'm uh some of y'all may know i'm a avid coffee enthusiast enthusiast enthusiast i like coffee and just working on a couple of projects. Last year we did a, I did like a, a collab drop, you know, with a roaster called Onyx, little small lot thing.

So now I got this other partner I'm working with out in Atlanta out here. So I was doing what's called a cupping, which is just basically like you've ever been to like a wine tasting. It's that for coffee oh wow wow yeah you spit it out you do because it's a lot of coffee like yeah you should definitely spit it out oh wait so what is a cupping how many like how many coffees are you trying in a sitting okay so usually it depends on how big the cupping is but like usually there's you try to go clockwise so there's four per round per round shit yes no you're yeah you it's getting that's why i was like yeah spit it out and first you like you grind it you smell it dry you know and then you're writing you know when you buy a bag of coffee it has all those flavor notes written on there sure yeah so this

is where those come from and then there's a number there's actually like a i know it sounds like i'm deep in the hole here but it's not there's a uh an actual like agreed upon like standardized number of ratings for like a quality of coffee for something to be considered like specialty coffee it's got to be like an 80 an 80 or above it's on a scale of like one to a. Got you. So, you know, if you're going to do like the specialty, like coffee shop coffee, not like the like, you know, Java chip, you know. That's more like second wave. Usually those are like, those are more rated in like

either the high 70s or very low 80s. Do they ever just throw some Folgers in there to fuck with you? Yeah, you're going to catch it immediately. You know what I'm saying? And what's funny about Folgers in there to fuck with you? Yeah, you're going to catch it immediately. You know what I'm saying? What's funny about Folgers is like, it's because by the time it got into the can, in that in the little plastic can that they

airtight sealed, it's like that coffee's like a year old. Right. Before it even got to the shelf. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, so anyway. What's Folgers score at? Like a 25? Yeah, Folgers is like what's left on? Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. So, anyway. What's Folgers' score at? Like a 25? Yeah.

Folgers is like what's left on the table. We'll buy all of it. Oh, so it's the shake after you broke the pound down, whatever's left on the table. You bag that up and call it Folgers. Yeah. That top 5%, those like 90s and 95s and like 98 rates, they don't even make it to America. Like Dubai, Qatar, like the middle east buys all those so we're not even getting the best coffee wow you know i'm saying it really is like drugs we're like no you're not actually it's not even getting like it does in other places

it gets stepped on on its way here yeah you don't even get that they don't even show it to you like if you're an american buyer like the farmer is not even gonna show it to you because it's like don't even show it to you. Like if you're an American buyer, like the farmer is not even going to show it to you because it's like, oh, you can't afford this. Don't even worry about it. Don't worry about it. Hey, you can try Folgers though. Yo, we got these C minus grades. You know what I'm saying? All right.

So I've been doing something lately. So for a while, I switched off to tea and was doing some matcha. Then I went down to Guatemala, had to partake in the coffee there have not backed off of the coffee since then but i have been putting half water half coffee in my cup in the morning and i just want you to tell me how disgusting and stupid that is. Go ahead. Listen, man, there's a bell curve of, I mean, that sounds awful, but there is, there is, there is a bell curve of like, like anything. It's like when you first discover it, you're like a new Christian about it, you know? So you're like evangelizing with everybody.

And then you hit like a snobbity, right? Yeah. And then that's where everybody's like, oh God, I, that's, everybody knows the a snobbity right yeah and then that's where everybody's like oh god i that's yeah everybody knows the coffee snob but then you come down the other end of that to where you're just like look dude you like what you like yeah you know now and an americano is that it's an espresso shot that you add water to you know now granted if you're just brewing a regular drip cup of coffee and then adding water i'm like hot water yeah there's probably a better way to do this but uh but uh but if that's how you like it that's your cup i

i'm pretty sure five you know michelin star chefs will still go to like fenway park and get a hot dog you know and it's like i love it right you know. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's all relative, you know? Yeah. But I am, I am, I am almost, you've almost given me a new assignment to pull up on you and be like, okay, let me make this cup for you. Yeah. Cause what you're just, cause you want less caffeine, right? Is that the idea? You just want less caffeine and just, I'm drinking a black in the mornings. Like I've moved off of my coffee mate days, which I realized was killing me probably faster than I anticipated. Killing you softly.

And so now I'm doing black coffee. But black coffee, if you drink too much of it, gives you a little like, you know, you can get sores in your mouth if you're if it's too strong if it's that starbucks stuff so i'm just trying to keep it real and i just like it better to like have it be kind of a little smoother yeah and the thing is like yeah i mean we're way off the rails here but like that's like because i'm i mean i mean i could i could spend a whole hour talking about this stuff but like i think that there's i mean first of all like i'm i'm i know y'all got doctors in the building so let me be careful when i say this but like diluting it doesn't doesn't remove the caffeine you're still drinking the same amount of caffeine no you know just more okay as long as you know that you know what i'm saying

but i will say there's there's a different ratio where you can brew it to the to the dilution that you like to the parts per you know parts per centimeter i don't know that you like that's not you just brewing a cup of coffee and adding water to it like there's a way that we can make your ratios be exactly what it is so that way like you're still not so you're so like now i'm like i but you need to taste the bean like like yeah you know now you're not tasting it you know i'm saying and i'll bet you like if it's main right you could be tasting it you know i mean to be fair my my coffee might have been too strong in the first place like my teeth would be black when i joined the call like just completely black and like

true you know one time i spilled a little bit on the table and it melted through it like alien blood so yeah it might have been oh it's clearly a user error then yeah they sort of sound like that's on that side prop we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we are telling our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today we're going to talk about the racist terror attack that happened in buffalo replacement theory just racist republican rhetoric in general we're going to talk about law and order tackling havana syndrome for some of you when you said law and order i'm like and then we're going to talk about law and order upholding uh no we're going to talk about the show law and order. That Dick Wolf stuff.

Yeah. The Dick Wolf. The Dick Wolf. The Dick Wolf. So much changes when you just change the emphasis. Yeah. Yep. All of that.

Plenty more. But first prop, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? The scientific word for your adam's apple oh larynx exactly but there's a it's like the larynectrial protrusion oh because this is your larynx and then yeah right here okay yeah so my wife and i now there's this is a this is a recurring thing one she's she is if we all know the type of personality that you can't say nothing without them immediately googling it because they just never believe no one's an expert right like no one's an expert so she's already that and it's and it's fair for her to feel like that because

she actually is she's a phd in ed paul She's actually an expert, you know what I mean, in her field. So, but since, but she'll ask me a question and I am a wealth of, like, I'm basically like, I'm not a pro in anything, but I'm a D1 athlete in everything. So, like, so I know these pieces of information that just like i shouldn't know this but i do you know what i mean sure sure so when she was like hey what's the scientific term you know for the adam's apple i was like it's your voice box she was like what's the scientific term i was like it's the larynx she was like but girls have them and i'm like yeah because it's your voice box that's the name of the thing ours just protrude she's like well what's the name of the protruding thing I was like it's the larynx so I

was like it's still a larynx it just sticks out she was like that's not what I'm asking so I had to google so I had to google it and I was like see larynx she said nope that's a that's a derivative of the term larynx laryngeal promise yes that's it the laryngeal prominence. Yes, that's it. The laryngeal prominence. I was like, you see that the root word is larynx? She was like, Jason, you're just not right. You're like, but it comes from Larynxville.

We all know. But they from Larynxville. Look at the flag. It's flying out his pockets. You know it's from the Larynx area. You know where flag. It's flying out its pockets. You know it's from that part. It's from the larynx area. You know where you're from. Hilarious. I hope to one day in my career achieve laryngeal prominence.

Right. Who do you think? Yeah, who has the most famous? Who actually, if we're going to say laryngeal prominence, is there anyone we point to as our- Who's got the most famous Adam's apple? Who's got the most? Do we even think about that? I don't think so. I feel like Tyler, the Who's got the most famous Adam's apple? Who's got the most... Do we even think about that? I don't think so.

I feel like... I think Tyler, the creator, has a pretty big Adam's apple. Okay. Celebs who win many hearts with eye-catching Adam's apples is a fucking... Oh, wow.

This is all K-pop, though. This is like all different K... This is just basically a list of different K-pop dudes. Okay, so... I guess so. People, they like the prominence. Yeah. I'm trying to.

Laryngeal prominence. I'm trying. Like the John Hawks strikes me as somebody who has like the type to have a very laryngeal prominence. A very prominent prominence happening. You know, like that real skinny dude? Yeah, yeah. Yes. But he doesn't have one, I don't think.

Oh, like DJ Qualls? Remember DJ Qualls from Road Trip? DJ Qualls is who I was thinking of, but I couldn't come up with. Oh, yeah, that actor, DJ Qualls. Because you said the thinness, and I was like, wait, now I'm putting visuals together and i'm like dj qualls although i'm not really does he gotta yeah it's all right kind of prominent you know i love it i think uh it

was definitely like a sign of as a child like i thought that was a sign of like manhood oh whenever i got whenever i got it was like, I'm a man now. I'm here. It's wild how you ascribe those things. It's like, man, I hope my throat has a big bulge in it so people know I'm a man. Like, what? It's like the same way I was like, I hope I get this armpit hair so they know what's up. You know what I'm saying?

I'm a man. I got armpit hair and a walnut in my neck yeah exactly i can still remember like in middle school trying to like lead with that part of my neck to see if i could like get it popping out a little bit and that really came so you entered a room adam's apple first like yeah i tried or like you know post puberty yeah yeah yeah that was like me when i got the armpit hairs guess who was rocking sleeveless tees that summer all the time just like what's up y'all yeah i got three i got 13 hairs right there you know what time it is you see it you see like my freshman year of high school all my other friends are like what the

what the fuck are you talking about man they? They're like, Chris got a beard. And I'm like, fuck. Damn it. Yeah, I was definitely a very late bloomer. I didn't get facial hair until college. Like, I was super late. Man, I'm almost 40 and I barely have facial hair. So I'm still waiting.

Yeah, my beard still don't connect. Yeah, same, same. What's something you think is overrated, Prop? Topa Chico. Mm-hmm. Yeah. What's something you think is overrated prop? Topo Chico. Mm hmm. I just I'm like, it's sparkling water. Oh, yeah. And that's Coca-Cola. Yeah. Yeah, it's great.

I'm like, I just I don't understand. And I feel like the like. It felt to me just I just woke up one day and it was everybody's favorite drink yeah you know i felt like what it did was it gave people who were too like because la croix became too cool they're like no i need something more like esoteric like i'm just not drinking canned seltzer like everybody else have you heard of topo chico it comes from mexico it's in the glass bottle and i'm like different yeah i'm like it's it hurts your mouth it's so carbonated i'm like like when i take this i feel like i didn't drink anything

i feel like i just i gulped air i'm like where's the liquid yeah it's like cotton candy it just dissolves the water dissolves in your mouth it's not there anymore yeah i'm like, where's the liquid? Yeah, it's like cotton candy. It just dissolves. The water dissolves in your mouth. It's not there anymore. Yeah. I'm like, it's fine. I just feel like, not that I'm like, I know I just spent the first 20 minutes of this going into deep nerdery about coffee for me to come into this seltzer water and be like, well, it's seltzer water. It's just, I don't understand the gradings. Right.

It's water with bubbles and then you throw some throw some i don't get it i i understand how that's the the walking contradiction i am for again talking so long about coffee but i still feel like it's overrated i'm like it's why is this so much more special than anything else it's right it's overrated it's the marketing i think i mean and i feel like this is a very la thing though too like where oh like it's like it's almost like a class signifier now where people are like shitting cans is for the broke boys like, we sip the bottled Topo over here. And I'm like, okay, fine. Like, it's all carbon.

Like, at the end of the day, it's all carbonated water. Yeah. Like, if you go to a restaurant, that's the only, like, you ask, like, hey, you know, you're looking at the drink. That's the only thing that gets to use its name brand. Because most of the time, it's like, yeah, we got iced tea. We got lemonade. We got Topo Chico. Right.

Like, why does it get its own name? Like, why do y'all, what is so, you could be like, we got iced tea. We got lemonade. We got Topo Chico. Right. Like, why does it get its own name? Like, why do y'all, what is so, you could be like, we got Spark in the Water. Like, you could say that. It's because the branding is just so next level. Yeah. Yes. You need to know it's so overrated. The branding is the whole thing.

Yeah. No, it truly is. I mean, it's like, you know, you'll drink something because, like, La Croix sounded better than, you know, the seltzer. It's what everyone was drinking at a certain point. But, you know, Topo, we see you. They're out here.

Yeah. Topo. I would. The one interesting thing I've ever read about marketing was about the guy who like took Jägermeister from being a like aperitif thing that helped with digestion to being like a party keg frat house thing. And then like with that capital, he launched Grey Goose. And it was it was interesting. And like his thesis was just like, what if we made it made a vodka that was 45 percent more expensive than every other vodka

and we put a wine cork in it and it was interesting for like how little there was there it was just like this sense of this like ineffable thing and like how people would read a a product but like i feel like i want to i want somebody to write that article about how the seltzer water like wars happen like who's coming through and being like nah topo chico's the next one lacroix's bullshit and then like everybody just follows it because there is probably like very little difference beyond the branding but it's they're reading there's probably an interesting way to read read into that for sure and i think they're doing the same it feels i think honestly it's like what voss right it's in a glass bottle it's not from america and suddenly it's like premium you know i like. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated?

Underrated. This was hard for me to come up with, but I think I feel like we're not talking enough about the entire like catalog of like the Apple Plus shows. I feel like they have not missed. Wow. Okay. So I'm late. I'm late. And I only just i started a preview of

it to start watching severance bro and i'm like but i but every time i read you know because i'm so inundated with new streaming announcements i'm like another thing and oh apple plus has another good one wait what so what else is what are you yeah so i've like I've neglected all the other streams and I'm letting those fill up because I'm so locked in on on the Apple ones. And I'm going back to like their first launch. They had a show called Sea with Jason. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

yeah yeah and like just the whole concept of like yeah 400 years later in the future like we've the genetic trait of seeing is now not around you know we've built an entire world where seeing feels like witchcraft you know i'm saying and and just the the world building in that show it's it's it's so incredible so there's sea morning show everybody's already raving about that that one called foundation that was like hella science fiction and multiversey and interplanetary like they're just tapping every the severance is absurd and then the uh m night shamalan series uh why am i blanking on the name of that? But I just finished it. The nanny one? Yeah.

It's like they have not missed. Really? The doc they did on, they did a doc on Abraham Lincoln, which plot twist was actually about Frederick Douglass. And it was like, this is incredible like i'm they just haven't missed okay okay and it makes me so mad that nobody like why are y'all not y'all not seeing these shows like this stuff is incredible i'm barely seeing anything we were talking about this last week there's so much shit out there i i actually don't even know where to

start and the thing i mentioned is it takes like four or five specific people all at once to say you need to watch this and then i'm like okay then it's good yeah because i feel you i'm just like i've just i've just like like um resolved to just go at my own pace i'm like i am going to that's why i was like i've neglected everybody else because i'm like i am going to that's why i was like i've neglected everybody else because i'm like i am they have they have yet to fail me i've liked everything you put out you know i'm saying and i'm just gonna ignore everybody until i'm done with these and then be like oh yeah you said that was dope okay i'll check that out but they're gonna wait you know i'm saying you're

not gonna pressure me yeah i'm like, it's like a cheesecake factory menu. You know what I mean? It's so fucking big. And then I'm like, fuck it. I'm going to just do the thing I always do. Yeah. It's kind of what I feel like with all this streaming shit. I'm going to get that shrimp Alfredo, dude.

Yeah. And I'm like, oh, that looks good. Fuck it. Chicken littles. Thank you. Yep. Say less. Can't miss.

Yep. And let me get an extra corn cob. Please. Please. An extra corn cob. I don't know anybody who's like committed to one of the streaming services. Oh, like a stand? Maybe that's a good way to just cut down on the clutter.

Just single file line. I'm like, I'm going gonna do this in a single file line it's like it's not your turn you know right once i finish this apple show i'd be like oh i wonder if amazon got something cracking and you're like oh that's cool i don't need to be on time with the twitter discourse i'm just gonna watch yeah yeah yeah i'm just i'm single file line you know it's like oh okay so we got some more ozarts all right when i'm done with this oh so you're actually the way it looks like, oh, OK, so we got some more Ozarks. All right. When I'm done with this, I'm going to go to this Ozark. Oh, so you're actually the way it looks like is like you can actually sort of visualize your own queue of like shit you're going to watch. Whereas it all becomes nebulous.

I'm like, fuck it. I ain't got time for that. And that just means I will never think about it again. Whereas, no, you're a little more organized. Yeah, I need that. Yes. Single file line. That's what I think about. I think about that with music, too. Single more organized. Yeah. I need that. Yes. Single file line. That's what I think about.

I think about that with music too. Single file line. Right. Oh, wow. How far behind are you? Well, I'm caught up now. Oh, wow. There are people that get cut in front of the line passes.

Yeah. Some things are like, okay, hold on. Yep. The ratios are good. All right. You can come in. Like Kendrick. You got to cut in front of the line pass.

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And we're back. And full disclosure, we were talking about the Kendrick album over the break. I think we're all on board. It takes a little while. After I drop the kids off, I get to dig in, but they're still on their, you know, trying to think what their favorite song is right now. But they're back to, after having a brief dalliance with the new Pusha album,

they're back to wanting to listen to just very basic pop music. And BTS. Now that they're over it. Yeah. The Pusha album. Yeah, BTS and Ninja Kids. Hopefully you don't have Ninja Kids in your house. No, we don't have Ninja Kids yet.

Good. Yeah, thank God. So his albums take me a long time. All albums take me a long time. But I feel like the first two songs are now fully in my blood and are incredible. I feel like I can confidently say that. his work from like three different positions there's just me as a fan of hip-hop there's a me as like an la native also and then there's me as a also a professional rapper right you know so there's like so like you for me it's like i'll listen straight through top to bottom twice you know and then go back and be like all right let's go one by one so it takes me a while too but like you know and then there's the it's sometimes it takes me a while too but like you know and then there's the

and sometimes it's like it seems absurd but like you know if you're talking about one of the three most largest artists in the world you know that you still have a competitive streak about like i probably would have done it like this you know what i'm saying it and it's absurd to say it but it's like i you're still the competitive part about you like damn it he said that way better than i would have right how does he do it damn it yeah all right i'm taking i'm going to seminar with eckhart tolle now seems like that's the secret of the i mean when i listen to that i'm like wow you sound like me when i graduated college and i got the power of now for the first time i'm like are y'all reading this

shit yeah that's you know what's funny it's crazy because like i'm here at this record label like we were all talking about the idea that like he he sounds 35 which is what he is which is perfect but it's like somebody who just discovered that you were full of shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we all remember the day we discovered we were full of shit. And like you said, we're just like, oh, my God. Right.

You need therapy. Hey, guys, did you know you need a therapy? And we're like, yeah, we know. But it's cool to hear him get to the moment to be like yeah man you got a young brother you know i'm saying yeah we know you know right right right what if that person who was saying oh my god you guys we need therapy was a once in a generation uh genius yeah then it's that yeah yeah yeah yeah whose creative abilities far surpasses any other human on the planet right now. you know the first thing they cited was also the same thing the first thing the pittsburgh synagogue shooter yeah cited also the first thing the el paso walmart shooter cited which is uh this

replacement theory yeah which is now like a we we have to have have a name that sounds serious around this shit that is just straight up white supremacy and white people are should be left to rule without any anybody around like they should be protected by laws and if they're not they're going to murder people essentially yeah yeah it's i'm i'm curious so many things i'm curious if the democrats use this again like another thing where they're like well at least we're not them and not offer any solution yeah yeah you know and or if we're gonna see i mean we've already seen conservatives double down there there's some republicans who are already saying things like this was a false flag event you know put together by you know who george soros type shit and continuing to try and you know pretend that there is no there there uh but i mean yeah as it stands i'm like

i'm like i you know dick durbin said you know like we need we need increased gun control and i'm like yeah that's true's true. But are we, are we talking, are we talking about the real engines that's driving this violence to like guns or guns make like the problem worse because that's the environment that these people are in where they have access to guns. But these people where they are turning is from their radicalization, whether that starts at home or online or whatever,

but this is white supremacist terror. And I think the lone wolf shit. I'm tired of hearing that. There's a total media. You know. Ecosystem for these people to. Like learn from each other. Get radicalized.

Share shit with each other. It's just a very. I think disingenuous. Like description of like this problem. That is just clear as day. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. There's. There's the like. The. think disingenuous like description of like this problem that is just clear as day yeah yeah i mean there's there's the like the the the parts of of the story that i've been like kind of avoiding for like my own rage in the sense of like yeah yeah like being being a violent like white man somehow you it there's a force field around your body

like you're just nothing can never happen to you like the idea that like this man this man told the internet what he was gonna do wrote it down on a paper and then drew on his gun and then live streamed the thing and somehow or another there's still a question about this man's motives and the fact that he that he didn't get shot on site like this like you you have a you're you're a mutant like you have a force field like that why are you not how are you able to actually be brought to justice so i'm like avoiding that part because it's it's frustrating you know i'm saying yeah but i think you know the the history of like what it meant you know all the way back to like the 60s and 70s of of this movement being like we're gonna it's gonna be a leaderless movement totally decentralized like there's no main figure

so that as we interact you know act out these things we all seem like lone wolves because you can't track how we've been talking to each other. The only problem is we could track how you've been talking to each other and and that we know that this was your plan. Right. Not only that, I'm like it. The replacement theory stuff, like the part that frustrates me about the media is like is the idea that like you're acting like this shit is new. Like they haven't been telling us this is the way that like y'all acting like this shit is new like they haven't been telling us this is the way they felt right for a long time you know i'm saying and that when people when the experts were ringing the ringing the alarms way back in 2014 2015 2016 being like hey listen we're

not headed for a civil war we're already in one one. They're at war. Don't you understand? Like they're at, they are believed they are at war. And this was just, yeah, listen to how they talk. That's what he's trying to tell you. He telling you he at war because you think you have a fear of becoming a minority. And it's like, and you, you're also revealing your cards, which we already know who you are because it's like well what's so bad about being a minority well it's because you're assuming that the majority is going to treat you

the way you treated minorities you know what i'm saying so like that's why y'all won't be one so i'm like like the why y'all acting like y'all ain't know this is you're acting like y'all didn't know like how you acting like you're so surprised about this yeah you know because there's this thing of like never wanting to talk about it i mean it wasn't until the summer of 2020 when the media was like white supremacy like out loud you know it's like wow that fucking took decades to normalize the use of that term is always racially charged or all this euphemistic bullshit and you know now it's like we're we're at another thing they they were unable or the media is unable to say white supremacist terror and if i'm them and if i'm if i'm those dudes i'm frustrated i'm like

fam we keep telling you where we stand right Right. Like we telling you exactly what we think. What is what is your questions? Mm hmm. This is what we out here doing. I wrote it. I live streamed it. What is your question? Right. Yeah, it's and that's I'm like, you know, that's I'm curious to see what happens with the tone of like talking about, you know, Liz Cheney. Right. Who's a Republican who's been ousted by her party but yeah she decided to take the sane approach or at least the human one to be like man this is a real problem within the party has to be discussed like this is there's too much anti-semitism anti-black race just all kinds of xenophobia it's bad but i don't see the republicans have and take

any interest in this in trying to, you know, say, you know what, this is bad. This is this the rhetoric that comes out of people in the party or from people on Fox News. It's contributing to this environment because the message that's being sent to white voters or white people who, you know, or conservatives are hearing, oh, you see what the immigrants are coming. That's where the bus, where the baby formula is gone. That's why you don't have a job that's why the factory shut down

it's that just feeding on itself and there's something really interesting on msnbc there's this guy who was a um brendan buck he was an advisor to both speakers ryan and bayner right gop speakers of the house and he basically said you know when he was asked you know, what's the what's what do the Republicans have to do here? Like, what do they need to do to start getting things together to start cleaning up the House? And he said, it's kind of tough. And he said something that I don't think he realized how, like, honest it sounded. But he said, you know, Republicans, they don't want to go after anybody else except Republicans. And when you do that, you can't afford to lose the racist vote. You just can't.

Wow. You can't. And he said it in a way that was like pained or whatever, but I was like, shit. That's literally how y'all talk. Huh? Who said it? Somebody who's more predictable.

Brendan Buck. He was an advisor to Speaker of the House John Boehner and Tim Ryan. So Republican Speaker. That's whose office he was in. And he just said, that's the problem with where the Republicans are going. They don't care about independence or trying to bring anybody else in. So all they have to do and this is what we talk about. These have to double down on the racism because they cannot have that. That's money on the table to them. And because the policies are a certain certain way that's why you always hear them having to mainstream this shit like whether it's elise stefanik who's a

member of the house from new york who on friday was saying the same shit great replacement theory type nonsense about they're just they're you know it's there they've got a silent revolution happening joe biden where all the immigrants are going to come in. And that's who's going to be voting. That's what America is going to be without using the words. But, you know, that's like looking at all of that. It's very difficult. Like Republicans aren't going to touch it.

And now at this point, I feel like the way the media should write about them, considering the rhetoric that comes out of there is like, you know, this is a group that's, you know, that is a openly supports domestic terror. Yeah. There's nothing about what they're talking about from what I'm looking from Congress, people are senators or state senators or local legislators.

It'll they're, they're saying straight up neo-Nazi bullshit. Yeah. I was going to say, there's a part that's like visceral to me in being like you know we're cali kids so you know i didn't come from like a jim crow state you know i'm not from the deep south so the way that the type of racism I experienced throughout my upbringing was not like something in that sort of world.

Right. So, so the part that you're bringing up about the Republican party is the part that like, it's just, is, is like the trauma inducing, like triggering thing for me.

Cause it's like, you know, if you, if you like, I got, I got bust out to a suburban school so when i'm like i know this little kid i know i know what this boy is saying you know i'm saying and everybody else who's a person of color know exactly what you're saying but you're not saying

it right and they could always fall back and be like dude what are you talking about man like i didn't Like, I didn't even say that. That's not fair. I didn't even know I didn't say that. You know what I'm saying? And if I'm trying to go to an authority figure again, I'm in I'm in the burbs. Like, even if I try to go to an authority figure, I look like I'm the crazy one. It's like, you know, listen, you know, maybe you guys need to work this out. You know, he didn't say that. that you know that's not what he said you're putting words in his mouth and i'm like what the you like you really like so i'm stupid like it's like and i just remember feeling like i'm so you're treating me like i'm stupid it i flash back to the you remember the right to life movement with that little boy was like kind of grilling that native american guy you guys remember that yeah yeah and how the it's it the the part that's frustrating me the most is

like the ambiguity of his grin in the sense that like i was like i know that smirk to where it's like you can't really say i did anything because i was just standing here i was just standing here smiling what do you mean i was being respectful the guy was talking I didn't say anything I just smiled right you know and like but I'm like I I you you're right I can't but I'm so frustrated because we all know what you're doing yeah you know and so to me it's like that's what frustrates me about the Fox News about the about the Republican Party right now it's like bro you you're gonna sit across the table act like you don't know what you're doing, that you're going to be like, well, of course we don't condone

a mass shooting. What are you talking? See, that's why we can't talk to you liberals because you're always going to call us, you know, say that we're this this is, but nobody ever said that. You know, it's like, okay, man. Yeah, you did. You did say it. And we all know what you're saying. It's that it's the thing

because what they're doing is they're acknowledging white supremacy in your face without without having to use the words that's what that smile is it says you know what time it is yes like i can smile guess what you're pissed that you don't like this do you and you know why because because we know we know the history of this place that's why and that's what a lot of this is it's it's just winking at it because people do know uh but sometimes it's it's just dog whistled enough to not fully get people to be like wait is this racism or do you be like yeah that's right that thing that i feel good about again like yeah what is that thing i can't quite put my finger on and that's what they're doing but

increasingly more aggressive ways and rhetorically more violent ways which is you're only seeing this it would only begin continue to manifest in the physical space you know the just broader context because so the new york times wrote this thing wrote this piece about the idea of replacement theory that made it seem like kind of a new thing like you were saying prop and but they talk about it you know tracing it back to like the tiki torches so like we go from yeah the tiki torches which people were laughing at at the time and them saying like you will not replace us jews will not replace us and like that was this you know staggering kind of like i don't know people people were laughing at it at the time now we

have replacement theory which they make it sound like it's like a fucking college course yeah you know you you now somebody can say they can't afford to lose the racist vote and i can't picture their career like being damaged badly from saying that like in the modern no because he works for conservatives he's right he's not trying to get a job with you know with aoc or some shit and he works in that group of people and they're like he's smart he know and like that's what it is like he's smart he's smart enough to know what the dynamics are here this party stands for this unfortunately part of that coalition are rac racist or maybe fortunately whatever maybe outwardly says unfortunately but still we gotta court them because that's the thing but there's

this paragraph of those new york times piece that basically just like runs through the democrats like bona fides on being tough on immigration that it feels like is structured to be like a counter to the talking points and like the supposed like replacement theory but it's like drenched in white supremacy and like the ideals of white supremacy like they're like that i'll just read it democratic politicians have generally been more supportive of immigration than republicans especially in the post-trump era and have pushed for more humane treatment of migrants and refugees. But the number of immigrants living in the United States illegally, which rose throughout the 90s and aughts, first began to decline under President Obama, a Democrat whom critics nicknamed the deporter-in-chief. There's

no evidence of widespread voting by non-citizens and others who are ineligible. And while Mr. Biden has laid out plans to expand legal immigration, federal agencies have expelled more than 1.3 million migrants at the southwest border on his watch while continuing some of the more restrictive immigration policies begun by former president trump so it's like they're they're like fact checking them with white supremacy, it feels like. Yeah. Yeah. And being like, no, no, we're good. We're we're with you. He's racist enough. Yeah. What's the problem? Why are you mad at him? He did the right. He did the thing he's supposed to do to be, you know, like I'm just nice about it. Yeah, that's my my wife again, who like works in like Latino spaces.

She's always said that, too. She's like, no, no, no. We are deported at the same rate no matter who in the office. Right. Which is factual. But it's crazy the way that they're kind of playing that. It's almost like the New York Times is saying it as if that's a good thing well yeah but that's their audience right what are you talking about like well no they they're getting rid of the brownies too right and that's who and I think that's what it is it strikes you

differently Jack because you're not one of these people who's like well how racist are the Democrats right yeah and is that good enough right you know You know what I mean? Like it's, it's so revealing that that's the, the like for them, the stakes are, well, have they ticked the racist enough box to the xenophobia quota? Have they reached that?

If they have, then what's the problem? Why are you attacking them on that? We've agreed that we can do that. And, you know, it's again a completely terrible terrible take to have going into a story like this when again every outside observer anybody who studies you know these fringe movements or like civil war type things are

just saying inequality is driving all this you know know that, right? Yeah. That's it. Inequalities. The reason people are like this is because their existence, it feels so fraught. But again, because no one is actually doing a good job of informing people, it leaves a vacuum for people

to fill it with all this hateful bullshit. And you have people convinced that that's the reason why, you know, the world is the way it is. I don't know how angry you'd be. You know, granted, there are people who are just violent racists, but there are also people who are really stressed out, who have their backs against the wall financially and feel like they're in a place where everything's working against them. And if someone offers you a tidy narrative as to what that is, and it's not necessarily revolutionary thought, then yeah, that might be a better track for people.

And that's what's so fucked up is that both sides aren't willing to tell people why the fuck their lives are the way they are. And they can't. And that's the problem. And that's why we're not getting anything done. That's the thing. Yeah, you can't. Because then the solutions, like you said, you said it's like well we all understand crimes of survival like you you right we get those you know i'm saying and in some ways if that if that

that survival instinct is tied to a supremacist feel and then you already know well the answer is i can't survive if there's too many of these people. I'm going to get rid of those people. Sure. Do you know what I'm saying? So that you've now added, like you're saying, you've added another inroad to something that somebody would have thought was unthinkable. You know what I'm saying? So I guess I'm kind of saying the same point, but if you cut this movement, a lot of you, you really slice the movement in pieces. If you remove the access and the disparages, like once you remove that to where they're like, well, I'm actually living fine. So I don't I now see this fool's move as crazy.

You know what I'm saying? Like now I can see like, oh, yeah, that's bonkers. Why would I want this? Yeah. Like, you know, kids in Beverly Hills don't they're not they're not throwing up sets. No, because they don't need to. They're fine. Yeah. Like and I think that's the basic thing. You look at what happens, what inequality does to people. You have to look for secondary means of survival. And a lot of that is extra legal out of the time or whatever comes out in these other ways you become hateful you turn that hate outward or whatever but it's it's just a really it's just a really difficult thing to grapple with because i think watching this black people in america are just looking at the over and over again saying yeah well shit man they can do fucking anything all the time they got a force

field they got there's like you have a force field around your body like you're yeah i mean do anything i i always describe being like white in america is like having the star in mario because yes you could fucking walk off the side you ain't dying you walk through shit you're not they die if anything you don't have to do shit you're that you're like omnipotent at a certain point. Yeah. But all of this comes together in a really, really unsettling way. And, you know, you look at already the situation in Buffalo, that market. Because of it's now an active crime scene, those people in that area, they have to go miles away to try and find groceries now because we're already talking about an area that is just not even that this is contributing to the shooting. We're already talking about an area that is just not even that this is contributing to the shooting.

But there are so many levels of inequality when you look at this problem. That's like just the place that it's in. The fact that tops didn't even want to open a supermarket there because they were like less safe, to make them feel that they deserve less than has already been offered. And it's not just, obviously, my heart bleeds for the people of Buffalo, but all people who look at shit like this and feel not safe and feel like, yeah, there's no protection. They feel like there's no solution. They feel like the people that there said, hey, I'm going to vote for you because this stuff's fucked up and they don't do shit there which was oddly enough on msnbc right before they had this roundtable discussion talking about this they sent somebody to upstate new york to talk to some voters and these black voters were all they said oh no they were in north carolina my

bad these black voters in north carolina they said i don't know if i can even vote this year and they're like that was a thrust. They're like, and we came to speak with these voters to see what's going on, why the Democrats are doing so bad. And you saw these two, these two black dudes in the store and they just said, I don't know, man. Every time I vote, they say vote for me. And then this thing's going to happen and doesn't happen. Yeah, like it's been happening. And they're like confused.

They're not. This dude wasn't even angry. The person next to him was just exasperated, too. they're like confused they're not this dude wasn't even angry the person next to him was just exasperated too they're like i don't know what to do but every time i vote i'm not seeing the shit that i'm being promised and you cut to this next thing on msnbc and then the host is asking if the democrats have a branding problem yeah like yes yeah branding's the issue here got it yeah yeah i'm it's just like you're at a loss because to everybody else the solutions are so clear man people need fucking help people need to feel protected people need that yeah the these the the scourge of white supremacy snuffed out of the country that's what they need.

That's what a movement needs to look like. But again, because you have Democrats who are like, just sort of like the, you know, woke cousins of the racists. They're like, well, that's my family though. You know what I mean? Like I can't push them too far too soon. Yeah. What meanwhile, we're going to see this shit go over and over

because their cousins are saying the same shit over and over out loud on TV or on Twitter saying they're replacing us. You know what? When you see it, it's crazy. Like when you say when you keep revealing what you're the lines you're not willing to cross. Those that are willing, those crosses willing to cross those lines get more emboldened you know what i'm saying it's like you're popular yeah and popular you like you said i'm not gonna tell i'm not gonna tell my racist uncle dave nothing because i still kind of need him and dave's like where okay well you just told me you ain't gonna do nothing right well what about if i do this are you gonna do oh you're still not gonna do nothing right what if i if i take it oh still not gonna do nothing

okay well let me and it's the same thing exactly what i mean then that racist uncle when they're about to do some racist shit their friend might be like what about your nephew they're like man you're gonna do shit right exactly and they keep it moving they keep going and that's the that's the energy republicans man they're not gonna do Yeah. And that's a dangerous mentality to have. Like, you know, when you've been in a situation and you're like, no, I'm going to press up on somebody. I'm going to fucking, I'm going to do what the fuck I want to do. Because you know what?

No one's going to say shit. I'm going to do shit about it. They're going to do shit. Yeah. Then you've got that Debo mentality. The white supremacists have been testing the fences and they're like, oh, these are fucking off. Well, at this point, they're pretending to test the fences and they're like, oh, these these are fucking off. These these.

Well, at this point, they're pretending to test the fences and they sneaking in every night. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Maybe the test is like, man, don't worry. This is performative. Yeah.

Get in there. Get in. It's fine. They don't do shit. Get in there. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

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iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back and you know we talked a few months ago about how law and order was back on the air and debuted with a somewhat baffling story about the murder of basically it was bill cosby it was a bill cosby type but basically massive celebrity who was found to be a serial sexual abuser um is then murdered and yeah i mean they law and order has always pulled from the headlines but like from the headlines yeah it feels like they're taking some liberties and also so taking some liberties with the writing and not spending a lot of time on the research front uh and some of these so well there's like they're just it's it feels like some somebody's giving them an assignment. Like, all right, we need one about Sacklers, one about Anna Delvey, one about Havana Syndrome.

And man, I mean, it is... Some of these plots are what I would come up with if, like, I had two minutes, essentially. So there's a murder of a... So Anna Delvey is the subject of that netflix show she was a con artist who basically convinced people she was a socialite but she was actually a con artist so it's its entire genre of shows the con artist show basically so in this episode of law and order they're like yeah she gets killed so there's a murder of a delvey type now they also were like oh we need to get three of these

in by week five and so we're gonna we're gonna double up right here the murderer turns out to be the opioid addicted nephew of a big pharma ceo who admitted to the nephew that he knows that Oxy is addictive. And so, okay. So the DA's office tries the CEO for manslaughter with the strung out murder nephew as the star witness. And they forget about the original murder because they couldn't,

there wasn't enough evidence. I'm sorry. So they got somebody murking a lady. And then he's like, hey, I'll give up my uncle who runs a big pharmaceutical company. Like, perfect. OK. And you only killed a national villain. So we're good.

We're good. We're good. Oh, it's like, yeah, it's like that logic at the end of like action films where like someone is like, well, I killed the guy that was actually framing me and you saw me kill them. Right. But you knew they were framing. So it's all good. Right. And they're like, great.

Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Right off in the sunset. Yeah. Hold on. I'm just doing the math. And yep.

Yeah. No, this is always like that. Carry the one. And yeah. The heroes like on a gurney like near an ambulance with like a blanket on and yeah you went through a lot kid but hey I was like the detectives like I got that one wrong huh

like yeah even though I killed 70 people on the way here yeah okay the mayor comes up and tries to kiss them like sorry I'm a one woman man so good it's like you put every i just feel like yeah law and order just like puts words on torn pieces of paper and throws them in a hat and shakes the hat and then it's like all right guys five words make a sentence right right you know and then and then that's it. And this was those were just the three that came out of the hat. They're like opioid murder con artists.

Boom. Done. The next rip from the headline show. This one was hyped up as like the D.A. finally loses one. This is the rocky one of Law and Order episodes where the da like doesn't come out on top and the the problem is that they have you know always popular on tv and in movies not actually very useful or not actually very successful in court is the i think it's like in movies called the insanity defense you know and it's it's just constantly it's like i'll just claim insanity and the jury's like ah we we can't do anything with that and in reality it doesn't

work like that but no in this episode so it's called severance the episode not to be confused with the apple series severance or the other law and order episode from 1992 titled severance they're now repeating episode titles. There's just too many shows. There's just too many shows. The moral of this whole section is just too many law and orders. The disorder, like the mental state that drives this person to murder is one that we've talked about before on this show.

And if you were paying attention during those episodes, you're going to be a little bit surprised. So this is his ex-girlfriend testifying about the guy who murdered him. Colin was always really kind and gentle. But over the past year or so, he started getting angry, having violent outbursts, and the smallest thing would set him off. Suffering from Hulkamania? He was like a different person.

I even considered... I even considered leaving him at one point. I feel terrible. I didn't realize it was the Havana Syndrome. Oh, Jack. Straight from the headlines into your heart. Bro, it could have been CTEte it could have been something that like you know like yeah he's got a lot of he's got a lot of concussions right my man said havana syndrome

so he claims his year-long years-long struggles with havana syndrome led him to black out and murder someone and he says in the show, and this is a direct quote, it wasn't me. It was the symptoms. Okay. Hold on now. They're right.

Are they researching this? He was found not guilty by reasons of mental disease. So no, they're not researching it. This is cool. This is too many shows. You're out of ideas, guys guys you're just out of ideas yeah so if you take every claim of havana syndrome at face value as true like i do believe the people

suffering from it do have the symptoms they have claim they have i don't think anyone's sitting back making it up other than this law and order character right but this is they they don't have the symptoms right like they don't even have like the general family of it's like claiming that like chronic fatigue syndrome made you kill someone it's like right the thing that the people have is like it makes you like dizzy and sick and have, you know, all sorts of issues, none of which is, like, it makes me into. Right. So, it's such a bad faith, like, addition to the conversation around Havana syndrome. Right. syndrome right because it did miss a diet like just doesn't even misstates what havana syndrome

is or what people claim it is and then you know just like that that kind yeah bad footing from that point forward yeah she drops it like it's a bar like it's such a build-up right and then it's and i'm like immediately taken out the moment when she was like i had a syndrome like wait what like i'm you know it's it's yeah i know what you mean one of those like like like a nas verse you're like oh shit he was the gun the whole time yes it's supposed to be that right right yeah i. I'm like, that's not a bar, fam. Like, what? Or like Immortal Technique, Dance with the Devil. At the end, you're like, wait, what?

That was your mom? Yeah. You're like, I don't know. Okay, this song isn't better because of that. But all right. It was his Havana syndrome. It was his syndrome that did it. It wasn't me.

It was my syndrome. Yeah. I mean, yeah, not a good way to, you know, I mean, I don't know, unless the State Department is like, hey, man, we'll pay you to, like, really make this seem like it's, like, a terrible thing that makes people killers. So we can kind of go down the road to get aggressive with nations we suspect for being behind Havana syndrome. But this really does read like terrible, lazy writing. And you just took, I don't know, it's a syndrome and people's heads were ringing. I don't know, Dre, keep their heads ringing and let's just say there's a murder. Hey, just call it Havana syndrome.

It's fine. Yeah. Nobody knows what it is anyway. It has most in common with vertigo do you do we think that the law and order writers like just know that there's a hitchcock movie called vertigo and they're like and vertigo is the killer in that one so i think we know what's going on it's like jaws the birds vertigo right vertigo just makes makes you kill it's definitely a uh i feel like what you said earlier where it's like i just need to turn the thing in yeah right you know yeah we just gotta turn it in guys yeah

we're on deadline like and then yeah we find out that character it's like what do you do oh he was a youth basketball coach right so how did he get havana syndrome you know he just got it because he was i don't know i think you know he's Miami. He met someone who had been in Havana. I think he was coaching youth basketball in Little Havana, Miami. Yeah. And like, what? And that's where it came from. Yeah, exactly.

They're like, we got to look into Little Havana. Dang. Well, anyways, now this is the most I've paid attention to a season of Law & Order as it was happening in my life. So maybe they got exactly what they wanted. Yeah, probably. Prop, as always, truly a pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? So honored to be here.

Prop Hip Hop is the website and social media. Yeah, PropHipHop.com and all my PropHipHops. Also, we do a day party every first Sunday in Long Beach called Real Ones. Really dope DJs, cool drinks, really good vibes. And the best part is it's over by 8 p.m. Oh, wow. So you can go home. Yeah.

So pull up on me. June 5th is the next one okay amazing and is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying man there's it's not like i know this is i know this i didn't understand the assignment but here's here's my answer to that it's not that so much that i've been enjoying it's that I'm, there's a social media thing that I'm sort of dreading that's going to make me enjoy. So I'm dreading the 500,000 think pieces that are going to come about Kendrick Lamar's record. Right. So I'm dreading that my whole timeline is going to be full of that. But the part that I'm going to enjoy about this is the fact that he's not going to respond in any way right right he's like good or bad

you're not going to hear from him he's going to go on tour and then go home yeah so i feel like this is like no i do my thing it's a one-way conversation a lot of the time yeah i said what i said you know so what you mean when you said this and that song? Well, I, I said what I meant. It's in the song. You can read it.

Is there any, can you get any nuance out of that? I don't know. I haven't really listened to, I just sure. Yeah. It'll be interesting though. Yeah.

I I'm, I'm surprised. I don't, I've, I've, I've, I've, my timeline has not been just,

uh, up in, up in, uh, you know, all, My timeline has not been Just up In You know All kinds of think pieces quite yet Who knows I'm just like they're coming It's a long album

You need to sit with it Miles where can people find you What is a tweet you've been enjoying Find me on Twitter and Instagram At Miles of Grey Also the other shows Mad Boosties the basketball podcast find you what is the tweet you've been enjoying find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray also the other shows mad boosties the basketball podcast uh you know new episodes gonna be dropping thursday uh we'll be with a very special guest check it out uh they're always special but these are sometimes such a great name to like kudos to the name of the show oh thank you all miles

it's brilliant it's a it was a It was on an And One t-shirt I couldn't afford as a kid. So that's... I always kept that in my mind. I'm like, I want that shirt that says Mad Boosties. Got Mad Boosties.

Yeah. Some tweets I like. Let's see. The first one I like is from Killjoy McCoy at Let's Go AO. Tweeted, The reason why all cultures have mermaids is because drawing legs is hard. First one I like is from Killjoy McCoy at Let's Go AO tweeted, the reason why all cultures have mermaids is because drawing legs is hard.

And I totally felt that because, man, when I used to go, when I moved past stick figures, I fucking hated drawing legs. Like, I couldn't draw feet. They always looked like big old McDonald's, like Ronald McDonald feet and shit. I was terrible at it so hey i was like yeah we need to come up with a hard we need a mythical figure that doesn't have hands that just has like when i was in like yeah when i was in art school that was a whole semester class is hands and feet yeah yeah that makes sense yeah because again i would have been like, fuck it, man. I'm going to just do another disembodied head drawing. Right.

I think more like fine artists should start doing like there's there should be a trend where just like great works like Mona Lisa has Simpsons hands like just the four fingers. Or yeah, Mona Lisa has a Simpson ear. You know what I mean? Just that because I learned, man, I damn near learn how to draw everything from macraean like the ears i used to draw were like homer's ears like i was like oh shit that looks good and you're gonna do like word seven squiggle that's a year okay got it got it yeah tweet i like uh let's see the other one noah at noah don't care uh tweeted it's a quote i was born in 2007. Sounds fake as fuck. Nobody is born that late, bro. Sounds fake as fuck.

Nobody's born that late. Nobody born that late, bro. Let's see. Adam Sirius, brow tweeting, tweeted, interviewer, what's your biggest strength? Me, flattery. Interviewer, okay.'s your biggest strength Me flattery interviewer Okay and your biggest weakness Me that smile Interviewer

Given the bashful face And then PJ Evans tweeted buying a used car How many honks Does it have left I identify With not knowing shit about Cars How many honks she got i love it okay all right sounds good oh okay cool so yeah let me just get a look under the hood

not literally yeah kick a tire yeah i literally kicking tires you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes we link off the information we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy this is a track called two chords and the truth and it's like a really great i've never heard of these people but it's the artist is mayeli manzanza and there's other artists on here matt daldin ashton sellers uh and a few others and this is

like i i don't know this is this is a band but the guy is playing like jazz guitar kind of like grant green sort of jazz guitar but the drummer is playing very like off kilter, like wonky, like almost J Dilla, like wonky drum beats. So it's a very interesting like I like when live bands like really reference hip hop a lot, but then also like stay true to whatever their expertise is on instrument. So again, this is called Two Chords and the Truth. But the artist, the main artist is Mayele Manzanza. M-A-N-Z-A-N-Z-A. All right. We'll be linking off to that in the footnotes.

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