The Daily Zeitgeist - Ranch Is A Lifestyle, Str8 Pride Takes An L 9.4.19

Episode Date: September 4, 2019

In episode 466, Jack and Miles are joined by co-host of the Pod Damn America and Why You Mad podcasts an comedian Jake Flores to discuss whether Ranch is the new Ketchup, Trump lacking an understandin...g of hurricanes, Mike Pence in Ireland, how well the straight pride parades ended up doing, what Miles is f*cking with, the child who went blind because of his poor diet, a school banning Harry Potter, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. HOLD THE KETCHUP, PASS THE RANCH!2. Can ranch dressing become 'the new ketchup'?3. Hurricane Dorian: US Air Force snaps awe-inspiring photos inside eye of storm4. Trump doesn't think he's 'ever even heard of a Category 5' hurricane. Four such storms have threatened the US since he took office5. Mike Pence staying at Trump golf resort in Ireland despite all meetings happening on other side of country6. One is the loneliest number at Seattle’s first ever “Heterosexual Pride” parade7. Creep of the Week: Don Grundmann8. ‘Straight pride’ parade leader said they’re a ‘peaceful racist group’ to a roar of laughter9. ‘Straight Pride’ Organizers Stop Using Brad Pitt’s Picture In Response To His Complaint10. Boston's Straight Pride Parade Decides It's a Cosplay Contest Now11. Teen went partially blind after eating only Pringles, fries, ham and sausage: case study12. Harry Potter books removed from St. Edward Catholic School due to 'curses and spells'13. WATCH: TOMOKO IDA - Soumei Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:28 you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 98, Episode 2 of Dear Daily Zeitgeist! A production of iHeartRadio, this is a podcast where we take a deep
Starting point is 00:02:12 dive into America's shared consciousness and say, officially, off the top, fuck coke industries and fuck them all. It's Wednesday, September 4th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Red Hot Chili Pepper Jack Cheese. Courtesy of Kuhn on the Cop.
Starting point is 00:02:31 And I'm thrilled to be joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I just can't drink it up Okay. Wow. Thank you so much. So good. For that one. Christy Yamaguchi-Made. That was great. In the building, under the bridge.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Congratulations to you both. Congratulations to us all. Yes. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian, Mr. Jake Flores. Hello. Welcome. Hey. Good evening.
Starting point is 00:03:33 How's it going? They don't know what time it is. Yeah. It's good. It's good. I'm good. It's good to be here. Good to have you.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Hello, Daily Zeitgeist. How you liking L.A.? I like L.A, but it doesn't match my depression, so it always feels kind of uncanny. Walking around in a beautiful place. New York is more your vibe? Yeah. New York is matchy.
Starting point is 00:03:55 That's what I like about it. But I do enjoy LA. I'm here for a little while. Then I'm going on tour after that. I always like to spend a little time here. Take it in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always like to spend a little time here. Take it in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I feel like that's the thing in LA that people feel like they have to hide their depression because it's such a beautiful place and like outwardly glamorous.
Starting point is 00:04:15 People are not hiding. Have you seen how people dress at nice restaurants? Yeah. Motherfuckers are depressed. Yeah, they're wearing sweatsuits. People are like, yeah, LA is chill, man. You can wear fucking like a garbage outfit. I'm like, no, these people are fucking dead inside.
Starting point is 00:04:26 But yeah, crying in your car is a big thing in LA, I feel like. Really? Yeah. I see a lot of people crying in their car. Yeah. You hear it a lot in stand-up. Yeah. That's a premise.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Well, that also just says something about the people that do stand-up. Yeah. They're car criers. Yeah. I think I maybe heard it in a stand-up routine and then started looking for it. And a lot of car-criers. I see a lot of hurried eating in fast-food restaurant parking lots. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I see that, too. I see people shaming eating fast food. Well, that might have something to do with what you were doing at the time as well. You're hanging out in fast-food parking lots selling drugs to teens. Well, no. A little weed is legal. Right. And they're 19, so they're adults.
Starting point is 00:05:07 So, by any angle. All right, Jake, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. But first, we're telling our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today, such as the ranch v. ketchup wars, the condiment wars. We're going to talk about Donald Trump we're gonna talk about Mike Pence we're gonna talk about straight pride parades and how fucking lit they are so good at parades miles is gonna get to catch you up on a couple of things he's fucking with. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:05:46 We're going to talk about the newest weapon in parents' wars on fussy eating. And a possibly new superhero or supervillain origin story. Yeah, not all heroes wear capes and not all heroes can see. We'll talk about that and more but first jake we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are um so when you guys sent me that question i looked up just what the last thing i googled was and um uh does anyone ever just say porn i feel feel like that's like the main thing. Yeah, some people have.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah. No, it was the phrase Die Antwoord Cancelled because I was talking about that band Die Antwoord with someone yesterday, and I was trying to remember why they got cancelled from Riot Fest. Oh. Because they were supposed to play Riot Fest, and then they cancelled for like something.
Starting point is 00:06:44 They did something offensive or something. I don't know. And I guess we were talking about, like, I don't know, maybe, like, cancel culture or something like that, or whether it exists or what's going on. And I was trying to remember just anything about this damn band, because all I remember is that one song where they're kind of in blackface, and you're like, whoa, what the hell?
Starting point is 00:07:03 And then they just were still a band after that. Damn. They've finally been taken down. I don't know. Taken down a notch. I don't have a stand on this either way. I'm not very invested. I was just curious because it was relating to something else.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I think we were maybe talking about Dave Chappelle or some shit. Right. But Die Antwoord, they're the south african hip-hop group uh and when you type the name in google uh the first auto complete is die antwoord canceled so you are not alone i think yeah some kind of homophobic uh argument some weird shit got on video trying to find out i mean look you know the second i found out that they were, like, not about that life for real, like that Zeph life, like that they were sort of performance artists who were just trying to find a wave. I was like, oh, this ain't what I thought it was. They're like rich people that fake being poor or something.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Like Yolandi Visser comes from a pretty well-to-do family. And I remember that sort of in the beginning, I was like, oh, I like her weird West Borland contact lenses and edgy haircut. And then I was like, oh, your dad works for like the cable company. Yeah, that sucks. Don't do it, rich people. We'll find you and bust you every time. What is something you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:08:19 All right, I've got a hot, spicy overrated here. Wow. That Popeye's chicken sandwich. Whoa. All right, here's what's happening it's good but it's a viral marketing campaign i they made too many chickens that has to be what happened they've someone left the chicken machine on at the factory they said we gotta get rid of these fucking chickens right and uh you know if you pay attention to like uh trade politics and
Starting point is 00:08:41 shit like that that's why like um you know all of a sudden every fast food restaurant will have like a bacon thing it's because it has to be like pork futures like something with like the tariffs and china and stuff people that know about this could explain it better i just vaguely caught wind of that concept and now whenever there's like a limited run fast food item i try to figure it out did you did you have the sandwich i did and it was really good um but i don't know if there had not been buzz on twitter and fun jokes about it and all these ads and memes and like videos of people if i was just in like a double blind study or something and i ate the sandwich i don't know if i would have been like this is an especially good fast food chicken sandwich you know my excitement comes from comparing it to chick-fil-a yeah and i think
Starting point is 00:09:29 my enthusiasm was about finding an alternative but yeah i mean the wave has come and gone and they got what 23 million dollars in free advertising from that right i a delicious sandwich though i thought it was so good that i was immediately suspicious that it was that they supplies would run out because you thought it was a cia yeah oh they're trying to create like a scarcity to drum up some sort of like revolution i just didn't think they could keep that level of quality up i figured that it would be like they put out the best possible chicken sandwich they could make and sold it at a loss and then eventually create a wave around like some scarcity and then put out a less good chicken sandwich somebody pulled a gun on a
Starting point is 00:10:13 on the popeye staff recently because they were out of chicken sandwiches that finally happened yeah i mean over the weekend wow it was only a matter of time i mean yeah honestly that's wild uh what is something you think is underrated why wouldn't they ask for the money when they had only a matter of time. I mean, yeah, honestly. That's wild. What is something you think is underrated? Why wouldn't they ask for the money when they had the gun out? I think that's it. Oh, I guess the money, too. They're like, oh, you thought I'm playing? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:34 You hand him the sandwich, he's like, thank you, and he puts the gun back in his pocket. No, not robbery? No? Just really upset that you ran out of the sandwiches? There are some things money can't buy, and at that time, Popeye's chicken sandwich was one of them. Oh, this may have been in your hometown of Southeast Houston, Texas. To the restaurant on Scott Street and Quarter. Oh, wow. I'm from Southwest Houston, Texas, but that's pretty close.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Yeah, I believe it. Yeah, the man tried. He said one man had had a gun but a restaurant worker was able to lock them out oh wow well you certainly can't get into a fast food restaurant if there's a locked door and you have a gun like right i guess maybe they're bulletproof glass yeah it actually depends on which yeah popeyes that would make sense because um there was also this just reminds me there's some reason i did grow up in houston there was this restaurant called timmy chan's chicken which was like fucking fire chicken it was really good
Starting point is 00:11:26 but they also got robbed a lot so like there was one Timmy Chan's that is literally just like a brick like fucking cute
Starting point is 00:11:34 no windows just a little booth and then you put the money in through like one of those prison sliding drawer things wow and then just chicken
Starting point is 00:11:41 comes out it's like here is your ration you just like what you get it doesn't you don't get to order yeah yeah okay see i like to know about local stuff like that is that like uh i've not i've not heard of that this is the first time i've even heard that combination of names words as a business is that only in houston i think all over texas no i think it's just like a few it's just in houston shout out to Timmy Chan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:07 What is something you think is underrated? Underrated. I'm going to go, this might be a very vague, broad answer, but just like podcasting in general. I know it's all the rage, but here's where I'm going. There's a lot of anti-podcast humor on Twitter and on the internet. Right. And I am suspect of where it comes from because it always seems to come from people that are very rich that are defending just traditional media. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And I'm like, well, fuck you. The thing about podcasting is that it's accessible. Right. And a lot of this stuff gets sort of politically involved. And so there's a lot of voices of dissent in DIY media, and you can't do that shit if you're writing for, like, the New York Times or you're on MSNBC or something. So suddenly, oh, podcasting is for white men and bros and stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:03 It's like, you know, I know what you're doing there. Right. I think DIY is good. Yeah. Yeah. Any criticism that, like, there should be more, you know, representation in podcasting, by all means. But that's not a reason to write off podcasting. Like, podcasting, there's nothing inherent about podcasting that makes it.
Starting point is 00:13:25 there's nothing inherent about podcasting that makes it there's also like a weird um there's this thing among comedians that i noticed where it's um it's not considered like even though it's a good tool it's very you can be lucrative um and you can get a lot of listens it's not as respected as some traditional channels of like entertainment, like literally channels, like trying to get on TV because it doesn't come with this like gatekeeper thing where you go, I got all the way up there and they chose me and I'm the good, I'm, I got a gold star.
Starting point is 00:13:58 The mothership beamed me up. Yeah. All you get is you get, you worked really hard on something and then you make it and then you go like, I did it. I made a thing. But it doesn't have the specific thing that comedians have in their head, which is, like, psychological. And, you know, there's a big hole inside of your existential being that you need to fill.
Starting point is 00:14:18 The approval thing. That's the word I'm looking for. You don't get approval for it. So I think it's funny that it's, like, the tools are right there. You can make anything you want, but it's not as satisfying because you're not a star. Right, right. Well, I think that's the beauty of the medium, too, is we can have a show where we talk about the news and we're not like – like GE isn't the owner of the company where it's like, well, we can't talk about the military industrial complex because they own it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And I can just say things like, come. Yeah. Just like that. Underrated. Yelling come. Yeah. Miles' daily yelling of come. That's what I do.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Brought to you by. Little known fact, in LA, there's a lot of shoots and live news broadcasts going on. High school Miles used to love to go in the background and yell come as loud as he could. I kicked out of the burbank mall recently the more i hear about him the more i am a big fan of high school what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false all right so when i was preparing for this i couldn't decide whether i wanted to get um all heady and serious or talk about Popeye's chicken sandwiches.
Starting point is 00:15:26 So I kind of cut it down the middle. But I guess this is now that I'm looking at my notes, I took like slavage Zizek notes. So this is kind of an intense point. But I think I was thinking about this and I was like myth. A big myth to me is this idea that like art is a weapon. And what I mean by that is like, you know i mean we're here in la we're in the land where we make all the things you know all the media and stuff so maybe it's relevant there's a very popular idea in america that like i'm gonna fight trump with my music
Starting point is 00:15:56 or whatever right or uh you know or with movies and stuff like that and uh i kind of also call bullshit on this i guess i think it's a it's a very popular myth and it's profitable and what i mean by that is here's what i was thinking about it right so this dave chappelle special comes out and everyone's or everyone in the right wing the bright barts and reason.com so these people are like you know the cancel culture people don't want you to see this special right and uh everyone makes fun of them because it's hilarious but then you know like a few years ago this lady ghostbusters movie came out and how they advertise it they're like the the bros don't want you to see it i'm like what
Starting point is 00:16:35 do these two things have in common right they don't want you to buy my product right so stick it to them by buying my thing right right That's how like capitalism came back around and just molded itself around all this stuff we're talking about. And it's that's dumb. I'm against's in the right place but i don't know if you know if we're talking in terms of an action plan that's the best thing to do but i guess if you're just using it as awareness that's one level of it but i think just to suppose that that that's the you know that's going to directly affect things but it kind of like i think it's advantageous to people in power to permeate these myths because it really keeps people from doing anything that actually threatens power by thinking like, you know, well, I could do a bunch of boring, dry political shit or I could pick up a brick or I could do my hobby. And then that's also somehow part of this process. And it's like, imagine you're like a king.
Starting point is 00:17:42 You're inside of a tower. You don't want to get in the tower. There's always people outside and uh they have weapons right well it would be probably pretty advantageous to like permeate the idea that like weapons are that's not how you do it do it with a song you know right you know what really fucking pissed me off is if y'all stayed at home right yeah that would really fuck me up yeah i don't know so like i i guess this idea gets thrown around a lot of the circles i'm in and i think it's uh the point i'm trying to make i guess is like art is the end of society not the beginning of it like it's the end result right and so that's what america has backwards to me interesting yeah yeah and i think i mean
Starting point is 00:18:22 all art is political and so like sometimes when people are going out to specifically make a political statement that they have consciously concocted in their mind, I feel like sometimes just in terms of the quality of the art, that's, it tends to work better when it's like something that has taken some time to stew in your unconscious or just in general the best art is true actual self-expression rather than like pop music where it's like well this is banging right now if i do something in this world i get swept up therefore and i think that's that's a big difference too if like if it's like meaning first and then there's like a point in it later right if you're writing a joke if it's funny first and then that happens to have a point of view in it later. If you're writing a joke that's funny first and then that happens to have a point of view in it because it's your point of view and it's attached to the things you think about, that's a joke, right? But if you start with the thing you're trying to say,
Starting point is 00:19:12 that's propaganda. Then you're just a fucking Christian rock musician and that's not fun. I was a Christian rock musician for a while. In high school when you were yelling Come Singing come
Starting point is 00:19:29 In the voice of the Lord Exactly We're called Ecclesiastis That's a pretty good Christian Christian band name Let's talk about ranch This ranch dressing It is ideology
Starting point is 00:19:44 It is bullshit People always. This ranch dressing, it is ideology. Yes, exactly. It is bullshit. People always say, you know, all ranch dressing is political. Now, Miles, so Hidden Valley, which, by the way, there is a Hidden Valley ranch that ranch dressing was invented at. I just learned that during the year of our Lord, 1954. Yes. Apparently. the year of our lord 1954 yes apparently uh yeah they their claim the makers of hidden valley ranch are claiming victory over ketchup that it is now their influence 70 of ranch usage now happens
Starting point is 00:20:13 beyond the salad bowl including for dipping pizza fries and popcorn and now this is where i get fucked up they said it has displaced blue cheese as a dipping sauce choice for wings that's a fucking lie that's a lie and that's how i know this whole thing is bullshit yes because i will never put ranch on a wing but this is a long-standing kind of conversation that hidden valley has been trying to get started uh since 2012 i found an article where they were like uh hidden valley is gonna supplant ketchup as the number one condiment by putting out this new product, Hidden Valley Everything, which is thicker and so it sticks better to burgers and fries. What?
Starting point is 00:20:53 Here's how they should advertise it. They should be like, these PC culture people, they don't want you to eat ranch on everything. Fucking own them. Own them with this extra ranch. It's true. The cultural elites don't want you to eat. They're all, that'll give you a heart attack. Ranch is just fucking,
Starting point is 00:21:12 I don't, I mean, I get it. I really liked ranch when I was a teenager. Because I'd never had it really growing up. Because my mom just didn't have that kind of shit in our house. And then I would start eating, like I had friends who put ranch on everything. I was like, oh, this is, I'm like, okay, this is a wave.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Then it died off because I realized it was just covering everything I ate and there was no other flavor. It was more just, like, masking shit and ranch. Now I'm, like, really not as into the whole ranch thing. But, like, when you see all these, like, ranch fucking fest, ranch fest they have in Vegas or whatever where people are, like, beer see all these like ranch fucking fest ranch fest they have in vegas or whatever where people are like beer bonging fucking ranch it's just like the new fucking bacon where people are mistaking food for a personality right and i'm a little whoa you know ranch bacon hold on yep well no that's the thing and that's when you look at like the shit hidden
Starting point is 00:21:59 valley is making they're like they found a way to weaponize ranch in every possible way. By the way, ketchup isn't the number one condiment in the United States. Salsa, right? It's actually mayo. Oh, shit. And then mayo by like a lot, 400 million containers sold each year. Then salsa with 271 million. That's probably because of real America.
Starting point is 00:22:24 That's right. Catch my drift. Which is funny. I thought there're all those like fucking takes like oh millennials are ruining mayo mayo's dying right because millennials are poor i think that was a single article we found written by a woman oh yeah mad that people didn't like her uh chicken salad it's always somebody with a really specific agenda right millennials don't want to come over to my apartment anymore they're killing the coming over to my apartment anymore. They're killing the coming over to my apartment industry. Millennials think my Scarface poster is, quote, gay.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Anyways, be wary of any ranch news that you hear. I know you guys have been just reading ranch news with an open mind, but try and be a little bit. This is what's wild. There is a ranch dipping sauce, right? If you go to the Hidden Valley site, they have a whole subsection of different ranches you can get. Okay. One is called Blasted Creamy Dipping Sauce Ranch Dipped Pizza Flavor. Ranch dipped pizza? It's basically evoking
Starting point is 00:23:26 the taste, the ranch, the dressing that comes out of this is meant to evoke the flavor of you dipping pizza into ranch. It's a flavor, it's a ranch dressing that's flavored as ranch dressing that has pizza dipped in it. That's what I'm saying. This is
Starting point is 00:23:41 meta. There's layers to this. What do you put that on? Do you put that on salad? Is this Praxis? This is Praxis, yeah. It's just fucking... I don't know. It's meant to just be like, if you like the flavor of ranch and pizza, but you don't want to
Starting point is 00:23:57 just dip your pizza in ranch, you just want to export that flavor to another eating experience. This is what I'm just saying. The layers are becoming too thick and crazy. Do you want to eat an Escher painting? Right. Do you want your condiment to just confuse the shit out of you? Like that one scene in Labyrinth?
Starting point is 00:24:15 Right. Have you ever made ranch? No, I was just actually, I'll actually talk about this later. I'm into making my own dipping sauces recently, and I was realizing how easy it is to make ranch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Making your own sauces is fun. I i used to have to make it because i worked at a pizza restaurant and so you'd have to make it in batch and like it's basically just like three ingredients it's just like buttermilk and then like mayo or
Starting point is 00:24:37 something sour cream some green shit and then you put it all in a bucket and then you get this big drill thing yeah that's a power drill with a power be and then you get this big drill thing. Yeah, there's a mixing head on it. Power beater. Yeah. You sit there like a construction worker, just like... People walk by, you're like, mm-hmm, yeah. It's really weird to watch it. Was it packets you were adding, or was it real from scratch ranch?
Starting point is 00:24:56 No, it was Hidden Valley, actually. Oh, shit, okay. It was packets of green shit. I don't know what it is. Yeah. I don't know what's in ranch, also, and I eat it constantly. And look, and we shouldn't know, in a way. I don't want to know is. I don't know what's in ranch also. And I eat it constantly. And look, and we shouldn't know in a way.
Starting point is 00:25:06 I don't want to know. It's America's new blood type. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks
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Starting point is 00:26:09 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person
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Starting point is 00:27:18 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:27:33 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better
Starting point is 00:27:55 because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black.
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Starting point is 00:29:03 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And there's a hurricane that was just parked over the Bahamas over the weekend. parked over uh the bahamas over the weekend and uh as it was approaching uh hurricane dorian the president he said that this is like the first category five hurricane that he'd heard of wait really yeah he said not sure that i've ever even heard of a category five hurricane uh there've been like nine there have been four since he's been president uh oh boy but never heard of it we don't even know what's coming at us all we know is it's possibly the biggest it's interesting to me not necessarily because he's lying or uh stupid but
Starting point is 00:30:00 because it's just a good kind of way of getting the rosetta stone of like how his brain works like everything is the biggest or worst ever the version of the story that you just heard imagine the version that would make the biggest splash on cable news and that's how it's going to come out of his brain when he tells it back to you. Wasn't some other thing happening where he said it was going to hit Alabama or something? Yeah. During the same press conference, he said that Alabama needs to be preparing for the hurricane, and then the Weather Service was like, it's going to completely miss the entire state of Alabama. But then didn't Trump double down and was like, I never said that or some shit recently?
Starting point is 00:30:44 Oh, really? Yeah, he was in denial that he was corrected by the National Weather Service. Again, this is what late-stage Trump is looking like. Yeah. Old fucking McFlailey. One of his things is just denying that he said stuff that is just on the record. Right. You recorded it.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Deep fakes. Yeah. Yeah. That's like reminding me of like someone i knew in high school who would just lie straight up and you could like you could call them on it yeah and it was still like nah i never said that and you're like fam we all we're all here together saying this was said right it's like no not at all yeah it's weird that we're all sort of held hostage by this president that is just the guy that retells a story 10 times and keeps adding
Starting point is 00:31:26 shit to it about the fight he almost got and then half the time you're like wait dude that's my story yeah wait i was there dude you just told my fucking story as if that happened to you that was me though yeah or was it right and that same guy you would definitely hear him say i've never heard of a category five after like you had just had a conversation with him about a Category 5. Are you listening? Right. Nah. Another funny thing about him is that he's, I don't know if Obama ever did this or I just never noticed until Trump, but he's always just standing next to a helicopter yelling at a camera while it's about to take off and his tie is all flailing in the wind and stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah, no, that's what he has instead of press briefings. I think it makes it easier to just lie because you have a time constraint because you're like, hey, I'm about to hop on this. And it's loud as fuck, so you're like, what? I would, yeah, I can't, sorry. Don't know what you said, but I'm just going to say what I want to say. And look at the time, got to go. And then fly into a hurricane he
Starting point is 00:32:26 insists doesn't exist. Gotta go bomb it. That's how he's going to go down. He's going to have to lie himself into a corner where he has to fly a helicopter into a storm. Yeah, Mr. President, you said you would fly Marine One directly into the hurricane to stop it, right?
Starting point is 00:32:41 Yeah. That would be amazing. That would be pretty tight, i'm gonna do that get him to say that he can fly a helicopter so that he then like has to just back it up like yeah we do know enough about like how he lies and the shit he lies about that we should be able to just and i think sometimes that's what the media is doing like with following up on the alabama thing like they knew he was just gonna be like uh or the media followed up and was like so this happened right right I never said Matrix Revolutions was the best movie right so the weather channel corrected you huh like just
Starting point is 00:33:20 it's like yeah it's not adding any information they're just like we know he's gonna lie about this he's like a a robot that runs on a computer program that we're trying to figure out a riddle that will fry his brain so we can get past him. I think if at rallies people start saying, fly that chopper instead of build that wall, he'll slowly be like, wait, did I say that? Because he's so hell-bent on building that wall.
Starting point is 00:33:43 He's like, all right uh give me that chopper i gotta fly right just reluctantly not admitting that he doesn't know how to fly exactly well if if that were true then why don't you get into the helicopter and fly it yourself right now yeah if you if you're so great and he's like tank upload a helicopter flying pilot course to my brain now that would be the funny if the end of Trump's presidency, he doesn't crash or die or anything. He just flies away into the sunset and we just never hear from him again. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:12 He just goes far away, starts over in another country. Speaking of far away and in another country, Mike Pence visited Ireland for an official meeting in Dublin, and he stayed 142 miles away. Why would he have stayed that far away? From Dublin? Yeah, from Dublin. Because Trump told him to stay at his fucking golf course in Doonbeg. But it's the best.
Starting point is 00:34:38 It's the best golf course in the world. Again, it's just more blatant, out in the fucking open. Like, hey, dude, go stay at my fucking property so I can profit off of all the additional people that are going to show up. I mean, it's not like I doubt it's a huge amount of money, but nonetheless, still going to the Trump organization. But 142 miles when you when you're in Dublin, there is like when you look at that, right? If you're in D.C., that's the distance between D.C. and Norfolk, Virginia. Okay? If you're in New York City, that's the distance between New York City and Schenectady. Okay?
Starting point is 00:35:14 If you're in Chicago, it's Chicago and Fort Wayne, Indiana. And if you're in Frisco, it's San Francisco and Yosemite. Okay? Okay. All right. The difference between Seattle and Portland, babe. I think the only one of those that was effective was the Chicago and Fort Wayne one, just to be totally honest with you.
Starting point is 00:35:30 All of them, I was all lost until Seattle, Portland, actually. Even more than... I have no concept of Yosemite in relation to San Francisco. I have LA and Yosemite. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. But we figured it out. Wait, Seattle and Portland, that's how far apart they are? Rough yeah so that's that's a good one for most people yeah like those are two different cities man in different states yeah but yeah i mean the whole uh the whole trip
Starting point is 00:35:53 itself is just absurd i mean not to mention the fact that he's just staying at his resort but also like the fucking whole thing the white house deputy press secretary just did the typical GOP strategy of like, if someone's called anti-gay or racist, you show that they've hung out with people of that group. And that shows they're not that. So this one was for all of you who this is the tweet from the deputy press secretary, Judd Deere. For all of you who still think our VP is anti-gay, I point you to his and the second lady's schedule tomorrow where they will join Taoiseach, which is what they call the prime minister, Leo Varadkar, and his partner, Dr. Matthew Barrett, for lunch in Ireland. So, not anti-gay. So, the head of state in Ireland. Because he's openly gay.
Starting point is 00:36:42 state in Ireland. Because he's openly gay. He's saying that it's proof that he's not homophobic because he didn't refuse to eat with the head of state of Ireland while in Ireland. Yes. Proven. That is an amazing bar that they've set
Starting point is 00:36:58 for themselves. How taxing do you think this is for Pence? Do you think it's the worst day of his life where he has to hype himself up for for it or the best day of his life? Right. To not kiss one of them. Yeah. How taxing is it?
Starting point is 00:37:10 What's going on? I don't know. Well, all the shit that he has to do, like, I mean, when I first kind of started seeing like, oh, I think maybe he doesn't like this was when there was that whole argument with like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer in the Oval Office and he literally just closed his eyes and tried to like astrally project himself somewhere else. That's when I was like, oh, he gets it. Like maybe. But then other people kind of talk about how like why would he stay at Trump's golf course if he wasn't sort of doing that thing where like Trump is trying to get Pence to like fully buy in on the corruption of the administration.
Starting point is 00:37:45 He's like, see, now you've stayed there. It's so when he leaves, he can be like, I have to get in the helicopter and go back to the golf course. Right. Sorry, no more questions. Yeah. I mean, it reminds me of that scene in Training Day when Denzel makes Ethan Hawke smoke sherm. When he's like, oh, see, now you're down. Now you're dirty.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Yeah. You know what I mean? Because I think if he did have his shit, like, you know, any person would be like, I'm now you're down. Now you're dirty. You know what I mean? Because I think if he did have his shit, any person would be like, I'm having meetings in Dublin. Why the fuck do I need to stay 142 miles away at Trump's golf course? Maybe he's under the impression that a golf course has some sort of
Starting point is 00:38:15 homosexuality shield magic quality. Nothing gay can happen at a golf course. Yeah. Never happened. Never heard of it. Yeah, I think Pence is just a coward and yeah anytime trump asks him to do something he'll do it like a good soldier and right you know the his main way of you know uh not going along with trump is just to like not be there just to not talk yeah not talk and don't actually be there and that that kind of
Starting point is 00:38:46 is trump should really lean on him and be like i want you to have dinner with melania without mother there just the two of you yeah just to see him squirm i don't know mr president he's so weird and we don't he's never in the news but he's always back there living his own truth or whatever just yeah i don't know maybe he's waiting to become president if he's i don't know i mean but even then it's like who wants to fucking follow this shit up yeah unless you're on the left because then you'd be like you see what happened you see what happened yeah yeah and i think he's willing to like at a certain point if things get bad enough i think he'd be more than happy to step in and be like i will accept this solemn oath when but what's that
Starting point is 00:39:32 line the president what's that line what's that because i don't i've there have been so many lines i'm like is this the line you think anybody now yeah he won't do it until it's like he's made to have dinner with melania without mother there. When he like loses the base, Trump would have to lose the base. Well, the way it's looking now, I mean, like when you look at a lot of the analysis of just sort of like the swing districts that like were heavily Trump and then swung blue for the midterms.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And they're like, okay, Trump still doesn't even have a plan to win those people back. Like, so what exactly is the strategy here? Because you saw a bunch of people flee in those midterms, but there haven't been any, like, no overtures to try and extend an olive branch or something to get those people back.
Starting point is 00:40:12 And I think it's just sort of like he's just hitting the accelerator on this thing. I don't know, man. I mean, he's just like he's been having rallies, like, consistently throughout his entire presidency. That's not normal. Past presidents have not just continued to be on right campaign campaigning like during their own presidency so he does have like this base of people but it doesn't go above like 38 well that's the other thing though like the system is broken so it doesn't matter because like you get a third party candidate in there
Starting point is 00:40:42 levels up the gerrymandering all this stuff and just like the electoral college and shit like that they gamed the system to begin with it's not like the majority of the country didn't vote for him his people are like you know like it's like 15 of the country somehow has control of the entire executive branch right um i don't know i'm i'm worried i don't think really i. Really? I've never heard this before. Go on, sir. About America? We've got a smoking hot take here.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Shit's fucked up. Comedian worried about Trump re-election. He's going to be on HuffPo. Guys, let's talk about the straight pride parade that finally happened over the weekend. The one in Boston? The one in Boston finally happened over the weekend. The one in Boston? The one in Boston finally happened over the long weekend. Can I just say I'm so glad I unplugged from the news for the last couple of days? Well, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I mean, this was poorly executed from a number of standpoints, but number one being they held it over a holiday weekend that I had no idea it happened until after the holiday weekend. And I also had no idea it happened until after the holiday weekend. And I also had no idea it happened until after the holiday weekend because it was just it kind of nothing happened. It was a wet fart. Yeah, it was like 200 people showed up. So not few enough to be like there. So there's been other straight pride parade.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I didn't realize this. There was a, quote, hetero activist who staged a straight pride parade in Seattle back in, I think it was a couple years back. 2015. 2015. And the attendance was lower. Oh, really? Huge?
Starting point is 00:42:15 It was just him. He couldn't find one other fucking weird angry fucker? That kind of takes the wheels off his whole argument. Right. Yeah. That's an asexual parade just by default right he had he had the black and white balloons which ended up being black and white ended up being the color of the colors of the straight pride movement uh if you want to call it that uh which we shouldn't uh pride bowel movement there's another straight pride parade uh just last week in modesto california uh organized by don grundman a chiropractor who also uh keeps running
Starting point is 00:42:54 for senate and losing horribly straight pride parade oh you mean a podcast Drop the fucking ball Don, a chiropractor He's like, yeah, we gotta keep things straight Also, our spinal alignment Oh, maybe it's all viral marketing Yeah, could you Someone offhandedly said that to him And he has the worst ideas
Starting point is 00:43:19 And he's like, yeah, wait, hold on Yeah, straight pride, straight backs Okay, yeah, Let's do this. Yeah. His logo on his site is a white fist next to the words, fight the power. So it's even worse because what is the power? Right.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Fight out, fight ourselves. There's an, also an old photo of a lynching on his website that links to an article where he calls black people chumps. So, um, okay.
Starting point is 00:43:47 About section of his site. He claims that the crappiness of the web design is on purpose because, because it's a meat and potatoes site, uh, that's here to quote, assist you in both countering and leaving what I term as the matrix, which wait, wait,
Starting point is 00:44:04 which is amazing. What the fuck? So many reasons. The about section of his website says defending the shitty web design by making, by being like, yeah, cause we're trying to fucking red pill up in here.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yes. And also claiming that he is the one who came up with comparing, uh, the media to the matrix. Uh, what, what I term as the matrix. So in a way he's the originator of red pilling. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:31 That's his claim. That he's not specifically talking about the red pill, like scene analogy in the matrix, because he could be saying that the media is like those two albino twins from the second Matrix. Right. Or some other weird shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:47 He hasn't thought it through thoroughly enough or his mind doesn't work in that meta textual. Yeah. I'm not going to lie, guys. I've only seen the trailer for that. When appearing before the Modesto City Council to make his case for his straight pride parade, uh, because nobody wanted it to be on shared County land. So he had to end up renting out a place, which then canceled it there. Um, so he just had it in his basement basically. But, uh, when he was talking to the Modesto city council to make his case that he should be able to have a straight pride parade uh he had a
Starting point is 00:45:25 bit of a freudian slip where he said we're a totally peaceful racist group which cool yeah that's tough uh anyways only 20 people were there to celebrate uh when when his party eventually popped off uh but 200 lgbtq allies showed up to oppose them uh and that brings us to boston just last weekend first of all they fucked things up initially by using brad pitt's likeness right they were like it's like the ultimate straight guy yeah tyler durden dog we're all tyler durden um i mean we just think it's really cool, him as an image of the straight man, because he's so hot, and his body's so tight, and everything
Starting point is 00:46:10 about him glistening. I don't know if that's real sweat, or the makeup department put glycerin all over his abs or whatever, but I'm feeling it. What's more heterosexual than an imaginary metrosexual friend who's telling you to do all that bad stuff? Teaching you how to use hair gel and shit right so about 200 people showed up to march and were mostly drowned out by 600 to a thousand
Starting point is 00:46:37 counter protesters uh didn't they like shift it because the straight pride parade thing became so like such a joke around it that they're like well it's also going to be like a costume parade too so i think that was sort of their thinking heading in is how that like straight culture has nothing to associate itself with so whereas gay culture like the gay pride parades are look amazing. Right. And people have, you know, things to do like visually that like make them really fun to look at. They were like, Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Straight pride is just black and white balloons. Like, what are we going to do? Uh, so they were like, uh, you guys do cosplay, do cosplay.
Starting point is 00:47:19 It'll be, it'll be cool. It was so well thought through that on the site, it said best solo costume gets a 100 gift card to something it's just halloween a 100 gift card to something and and a 200 card goes to the best straight couples cosplay for something again uh wow. The reason that pride parades have a culture to them is that they have an origin. They haven't just been made from a whole cloth like the straight pride parade. Pride is in celebration of the Battle of Stonewall where a bunch of queer people got into a street fight with the police inside of a bar. Right. And barricaded the walls up.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Well, the reason I'm bringing this up is that this, a straight pride parade implies the existence of straight stonewall. Right. Or some kind of oppression. Yeah. Or some sort of street fight with like whoever they're saying oppresses them. Yeah. Like the PC police.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Twitter. Yeah, that. Or the queer eye people saying i should stop wearing cargo shorts right yeah that's my fucking stonewall man it denotes the day on which queer i said uh cargo shorts weren't cool anymore oh so brooks running shoes with reebok white socks pulled up to my knees isn't a cool look yeah it's violence against me man the queer eye guys got hired to make over their dad and they like boarded up the walls and shit they were like they're trying
Starting point is 00:48:49 to get in here right oh god the photos look really uh really exciting pretty bleak uh and and lo and behold how many fucking cargo shorts are in this fucking photo dude like even when you look it's like one two three there are three pairs of shorts in the picture or four pairs and three of them are cargo shorts so good ratio yeah not a ton of uh women were showing pride in their straightness and aoc tweeted for men who are allegedly so proud of being straight they seem to show real incompetence at attracting women to their event seems more like a i struggle with masculinity parade to me hope they grow enough over the next year to support join lgbtq fam next hashtag pride and that set the right wing media off now their favorite person their favorite lightning. It gave them something to cover.
Starting point is 00:49:48 It was beneficial to them in the sense that it gave them something to cover that wasn't the parade itself because that was just self-evidently embarrassing. Right. But anyways, it looks like at this point, straight pride parades are a resounding 0 for 3. But, you know, keep trying, guys. I don't know, man. You seen a Patriots Super Bowl celebration parade? Right. Yeah, I mean. But, you know, keep trying, guys. I don't know, man. You seen a Patriots Super Bowl celebration parade?
Starting point is 00:50:07 Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. There's plenty of... Most parades are straight pride parades, right? Well, yeah, of course. This one has costumes. It's fun. It has terrible masks. There's clowns. Did you see the weird green clown guys?
Starting point is 00:50:24 No. There's a picture that went around on twitter of like a snapshot of these two guys that had green like makeup all over their faces and clown wigs and somebody explained it to me it's uh after so they they took the pepe frog and made it alt right you know back in like 2016 and then they kept evolving it like pokemon style so there's like a bigger one called Groiper. And then the next... Yeah, it's this bigger, weirder Pepe. And then there's this thing called Honkler now
Starting point is 00:50:52 and that's what they were dressed up as, which is like a Pepe frog that's also a clown. And I don't know what it means, but they certainly could explain why they're dressed up as a frog clown as a way of celebrating the fact that they supposedly have sex with women yes tons of it it's fucking weird yeah yeah that is very strange i wish i had not seen those pictures oh yeah it's nightmare fuel all right we're gonna take
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Starting point is 00:53:24 where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black.
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Starting point is 00:54:48 Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
Starting point is 00:55:05 This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Miles, you were just doing some research into the origin and aim of honkler yeah yeah they you know first of all it's born out of a worldview that you know clown world where it's a nihilistic idea that like there's an unstoppable force, man, of liberalism, feminism, every-ism that's turned our world into a fucking freak show. And then, yeah, essentially Honkler is a mix of Honk and Hitler, apparently. Yeah. And they want to trick liberals into associating clowns with racism and to take back the rainbow.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I for one certainly associate rainbows with straight people now after this weekend. Yeah, well, look, dude, you've just been owned. You've just been pwned, my friend. I just want to fuck a clown now. It's really weird. I don't think it works, whatever they're trying to do.
Starting point is 00:56:15 I mean, if anything, the thing you take away from the costume of Honkler is a misuse of color, which is something that straight people have been doing extremely well at for a long time they did not need to further that brand uh let's do a quick round of what we're fucking with with miles gray uh miles you were out yesterday right and we i wanted to find out what you're fucking with um you know very quickly I just want to say uh the first episode of righteous gemstones I'm fucking with heavy uh need to watch the rest as somebody who's been near uh evangelicals and uh christianity it's fucking great like I said earlier making my own dipping sauces so what's a what's a especially oh you
Starting point is 00:57:03 know like I was we were fucking around um her majesty and i made a honey mustard with this spicy honey so it was like a hot honey mustard uh was a recent uh invention well it's just a thing i'm high and i wanted to mix things and also uh i was trying to make the sauce that you get at raising canes for chicken fingers colloquially known as comeback sauce in the South. But I was at a chicken finger party where everybody brought their own dips. The fingers were provided, but your real flex was the dips you brought.
Starting point is 00:57:34 So I had to fuck around and make some comeback sauce. That sounds like a chicken swinger party. Hey, thank you. Can we get a bomb drop on that one? Yes. And also another thing, I'm being very careful with what I bring my attention to in the morning. When you wake up, I just find myself in a very odd place where my thoughts can take me to somewhere wonderful or somewhere so fucking dark that light cannot exist. And I realize, too, it's a lot of it born out of like if i'm looking at the news immediately
Starting point is 00:58:05 or if i'm just like realizing let me get my vibe going and put some music on if i can move my body a little bit and then get into my day and take a shit yeah which is how i started also let me tell you something one thing i'm not fucking with sliced brioche bread from albertsons sorry i think we were all waiting for your take on sliced brioche. Had somebody bought it and I tried to make a sandwich with it. The shit tasted like cake. Like I like brioche in certain contexts, but this shit at Albertsons, it was like a pound cake.
Starting point is 00:58:33 It was weird. I think you get it if you just want to make French toast, like brioche French toast. Fine. Do not make it for a sandwich. It's fucking too sweet. And that has been what I'm fucking with. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Goodbye. Is there any do you have any tips for people who are trying to keep their uh attention kind of in in good shape what are you meditating you just uh i think just keep your phone away just think of whatever your morning patterns are like i think we're so quick to look at our phones and then just get fucking sucked in and whether that means you know looking at a hell the hellscape of news headlines or whatever i think it's good just to at the first thing keep your energy good you know what i mean and you know just i like to just uh be grat grateful you know it's not really anything life-changing but it's just something versus like me obsessing over like whatever the continuation is of some news thing the night before yeah uh i try and
Starting point is 00:59:25 just build some space up top in the morning to not you know have any any stimuli come in that could throw my vibe all right guys let's talk about who i think is going to become a mythic figure in the world uh this is a young man who was just documented in a case study published in the Annals of Internal Medicine. So he basically suffered from nutritional optic neuropathy, which is a dysfunction of the optic nerve caused by a diet low in nutrients required for nerve fibers in the eye to function. So basically he went blind from eating too much junk food. Yeah. My man literally lost his eyesight from eating horse shit food.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Wow. His diet, okay, was something else. He started off as a picky eater, but I just want to tell you, his diet was basically French fries, Pringles, white bread, and processed ham and sausage. I mean, that's three of the food groups right there. That is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:29 I mean, but it started because he first came in as a 14-year-old with a normal BMI. They were just sort of saying like, yo, my 14-year-old is fucking tired. But obviously, when you're 14, I was always fucking tired. I slept 19 hours a day sometimes. More depression. And the doctor was like, here's some vitamin B12. Maybe that'll get you going to help your energy up a little bit. But they're also like, what's your diet?
Starting point is 01:00:54 Why don't you try some other stuff too? He comes back a year later, fucking developed hearing loss and symptoms that were related to his vision that they were like, what the fuck? We don't know what's going on. By 17, his vision had regressed to the point of blindness. Whoa. He's turning into like a daredevil.
Starting point is 01:01:13 You know what? Yeah. And a really tragic American or, well, actually this, this person was in the UK, but yeah, just a hyper consumption way.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Oh, that's another level to it. He's like a Willy Wonka kid. Right? Yeah. This kid would be great as a Willy Wonka character. He needs a stern singing to by some Oompa Loompas. Right, exactly. Get him back on the right path.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Yeah, yeah. But yeah, the parents were always saying, well, he's just been a fuzzy eater. To the point where you're going to let a teenager who, look, we don't know how to fucking take care of ourselves. Even in my fucking 30s, I barely know how to take care of myself. But at 14, 13, when you're really just going off of like, what is my desire? That times 10. Yeah. You need some guidance, maybe.
Starting point is 01:01:55 A little hand-holding. Yeah. But it is one of those things. Like, this child has presented parents of fussy eaters with, the attack bomb yeah because like when you're a kid i remember you know your parents would lie to you and be like well if you do this you're gonna go blind you do this your eyes and get stuck like that we didn't really have at least in our generation we'd have the internet where we could just cross cross check that reference real quick yeah now a parent could be like you know that kid went blind from only eating fries
Starting point is 01:02:21 right they google that shit rut row they used to say if you masturbate too much you'll go blind yeah and uh it turns out you go blind if you eat too many pringles yeah so that they should tell that kid hey cut it out go masturbate right do something healthy maybe your eyesight will come back yeah masturbation is good for uh what's it called testosterone production so maybe give them a little more energy. Or man, like Tim Ferriss says, just eat a fucking grass-fed fatty beef steak at 1 a.m. Let your body process that overnight.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Testosterone levels will be through the fucking roof. And then you go fight MMA. I'm not a doctor, but... That sounds wrong. I'm just sleeping with a steak next to my head. Just like the alarm goes off Time to eat it, fuck Were you all fussy eaters when you were teenagers?
Starting point is 01:03:09 No, I'm poor You ate vegetables? I think I have a hot take on this I think fussy eating is a classist issue Right I don't choose what I eat I eat what is there What is there?
Starting point is 01:03:20 What's available The only thing that I'm weird about is like raisins Yeah Wow, you really pulled a face. I could see that you have something going on with raisins, huh? I really don't like them, but I would like if they were around and I was hungry. Sure, sure, sure. Like oatmeal raisin cookies?
Starting point is 01:03:35 Mm-mm. To me, that's not a cookie. I'm sorry. Yeah. That's a health food disguised as a treat. They just don't scan as food to me, so when I eat like an raisin, like an oatmeal raisin cookie, I'm like enjoying a cookie and then I spit it out like it's seeds. Like the raisins? Like watermelon
Starting point is 01:03:49 seeds? Yeah. I'm like, this fart isn't food. Right. Yeah, I don't think I was a fussy eater, but I have children in my life, not necessarily my own, who are fussy eaters. And I feel like it's weird to like make eating feel like a punishment type thing.
Starting point is 01:04:08 So this has given me, this young man has given me a lot of food for thought. Food for thought. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, I mean, look, tell your kids to eat fucking vegetables at least. Yeah. At the bare minimum, inform your kids that there's things outside of fries, white bread, Pringles, and processed meat.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about Harry Potter because it's 2019. What else will we be talking about? Yeah. A Catholic school in Nashville has decided that they will no longer have the Harry Potter series in their school's library. What dimension is this story? longer have the harry potter series in their school's library this is what is what what
Starting point is 01:04:45 dimension is this story like do people do we still haven't landed on if harry potter's fucking evil sorcery from the devil so the quote for their explanation why these books present magic as both good and evil which is not true but in fact a clever deception. Nice try, devil. The curses and spells used in the books are actual curses and spells, which... Hold on. No, hold on. Hold on. No, no. Just fucking end it.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Just blow everything up. They are actual curses and spells. Right. What the fuck? Yeah. See, a lot of people don't know that, but those of us who deal in make-believe, apparently. If you say Wingardium Leviosa Pazuzu from The Exorcist shows up, or Paimon from Hereditary. Don't you think every child who read those books tried those curses
Starting point is 01:05:37 and we would have definitive evidence of evil spirits by now were this to be the case? evidence of evil spirits by now were this to be the case like you guys you you're not just if if america's soul was going to go to hell but from reading harry potter books that would have happened what happened well that's what it is now maybe like today like why did they have harry potter up until this point they just got done reading it they're oh they're slow readers yeah yeah they're like hold on a second uh but these are actual spells i think these are actual curses and spells which when read by a human being risk conjuring evil spirits into the presence of the person reading the text i love
Starting point is 01:06:15 that they had to write an email to the parents of their students being like so uh we believe in evil spirits these are real magic spells. Harry Potter is real, basically. They're like, look, we're sending our kid to this Catholic school because it's the cheapest private school in the area. If this is what the fuck's going on, we're going to take him out.
Starting point is 01:06:35 These are actual fucking spells, y'all. But I like that they consulted fucking exorcists. They go on to say that. Yeah, he went and spoke with some exorcists in the US and Rome. That is... Which is funny because the Pope and the Catholic Church technically don't have a position on the books.
Starting point is 01:06:49 On the Harry Potter books. They're like, you know, it's a push. We don't know if they're... It's weird. A Catholic school kind of is Hogwarts. Right, yeah. It's a private school. You go to learn how to do magic,
Starting point is 01:07:00 which is talking to God or whatever. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And you had weird teachers, man. man right someone went to catholic high school true some yeah there were some snapes in the building is that a thing i think they're all snapes right snapes on a plane snapes on a plane there we go we'll drop that bomb yeah one more time thank you ladies ladies thank you for letting me do that. Yeah. Because, see, that may have been an actual curse or spell you conjured right there.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Oh, yeah, yeah. Droppeth the bombeth. I like how, like, they're curses, so it's like they're cussing. Right. They're like, Expelliarmus. Someone's like, I can't believe you just said that. Oh, my. What did you just say, Jake? Go to the principal's office.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Wow. Go to the Monsignor's office. Wow. Yeah, the idea that if it is actual curses and spells, then can they show us evidence on the good side of real spells? You know what I mean? I'm guessing this is not an extremely evidence-based group of people as they were like, well, we've got gotta call up the exorcists. The assumption here
Starting point is 01:08:06 is that they all got together in the gymnasium at night and tried to do the spellings, right? And one of them kinda worked and they all got freaked out. Yeah, something moved slightly. The light flickered, the light flickered. They're all around a Ouija board and they're like, I'm not moving it.
Starting point is 01:08:22 You're moving it. We're breaking the second commandment. Oh, it just like, I'm not moving it. You're moving it. We're breaking the second commandment. Oh, it just said I'm gay. Jake, it has been a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you, listen to you? Okay. I have like three things. I'll do them all right now.
Starting point is 01:08:38 I'm a standup comedian. I'm on tour. If you want to come see a live show, what you do is follow me on Twitter. My at is feral jokes feral like an animal jokes like jokes it is an anagram for my name which is jake flores right that's also like my at on everything if you use other apps um my website is also feral jokes.com and all my tour dates are on and i'm coming up the west coast with my pal sarah june i'm coming back down the country with my friend mishka Shubali. I'm on tour a lot
Starting point is 01:09:06 and I'm also around New York a lot. And my other thing is a podcast called Pod Damn America, which is basically a bunch of standup comedians who are also socialist organizers and stuff like that. It's, you know, comedy politics podcast from a sort of radical left perspective uh and my other podcast is called why you mad it's me and my friend who's a genius anthropologist luisa diaz talking about like the comedy industry and uh heady art uh analysis of stand-up and comedy and stuff like that comedy podcast where somehow fuko comes into talking about uh you know red fox going wash your ass that's the fish okay if you're listening to this uh the day comes out i will have last night roast battled my pal sarah june at the comedy store you can probably find the
Starting point is 01:09:58 video online and um i will be at uh i'll be doing stand-up on a show called Rod Stewart Live. Look it up. It's on my Twitter. The Washoe ass joke was definitely a comment on Foucault and his madness and civilization. Yeah. Love that pendulum. Yeah. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:10:18 Oh, okay. This is a good one. At Internet Hippo tweeted, kids today only know instant gram and vape. They should be politically active. And then in brackets, kids become politically active. And then after that, these little ingrates should shut up,
Starting point is 01:10:36 which I think is a good encapsulation of everyone's dumb brain. Instant gram. Instant gram. I've had enough of them. Professor vape. Miles miles where can people find you twitter instagram at miles of gray uh tweets i like are from reductress two of them first one is uh-oh these mean teenagers want to know how old you are and also uh i could never live in a big city says hometown friend again
Starting point is 01:11:08 all right i got another one uh alissa milano tweeted in 2009 god please help rescue this little boy floating in this air balloon That's real? Yeah Remember Balloon Boy? Balloon Boy It was all a hoax And then she said Amen And also dude Wasn't that the dad
Starting point is 01:11:31 Super toxic? Wasn't he Yeah Pussified Was like his whole thing The pussification of America Yeah Pussified
Starting point is 01:11:38 Was like a music video He like faked it or something Yeah He faked it To get in the news I think the mom was Japanese Because he was He was just like hacking into the national consciousness
Starting point is 01:11:48 and pulling out the most toxic thing that would get a rise. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. The discourse lover at Trillburn tweeted, thought of a good contrarian argument to piss people off. Quentin Tarantino is a terrible director, but a great actor. And Brendan Sagalow tweeted, I'm Jerry Seinfeld, and this is comedians in cars picking their girlfriends up from high school.
Starting point is 01:12:13 I saw that. That's pretty funny. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, we have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZe Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, we have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes,
Starting point is 01:12:31 where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on Miles West. How's that going to be today? This is a track from a Japanese trap producer, a woman named Homoko Iida, and this track is called Soumei, S-O-U-M-E-I. Soulmate.
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