The Daily Zeitgeist - Rapture Gooning, Jesse <3 Stephen? 10.09.25

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

In episode 1945, Jack and Miles are joined by host of Go Home Bible, You're Drunk and White Homework, Tori Williams Douglass, to discuss&hellip; Rapture? Jesse Watters Is Either F**king Stephen Miller&rsquo;s Wife Or Is F**king Stephen Miller, Going Woke *Doesn&rsquo;t* Mean Going Broke? And more! Jesse Watters Is Either F**king Stephen Miller&rsquo;s Wife Or Is F**king Stephen Miller &lsquo;Go woke, go broke&rsquo;? New study challenges claims progressive films flop at the box office Know Your Meme: "Get Woke Go Broke" Contrarian Cli-Fi 0.08: The Last&nbsp;Centurion John Ringo is a caricature of a wingnut Conservatives Take Aim at &lsquo;One Battle After Another&rsquo;: &ldquo;Year&rsquo;s Most Irresponsible Movie&rdquo; LISTEN: Supa Anxious by CruzaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I knew you couldn't tell because my thumb is this shape, but, you know. I can tell. What do you mean? This shape. I got the old toe thumbs. What's that? The little shorties. Those look like regular-ass thumbs to me.

Thank you. Don't try to make it like your thumbs are popping like that, Catherine. They look like regular-ass thumbs to me. Think your thumbs are better than me? Oh, you say your thumbs are better than me, huh? Okay. Okay. I'm actually like really good at a thumb war because even though they're too short, they are really strong. So like I just reach over and grab them. Oh, do you, but do you go? I should make a movie like Rudy about your thumbs. Catherine, when you do a thumb war, are you going at the base? Are you going, are you trying to go over? Or you're like that movie. Oh, okay. Over the top. Like Slice alone. You come over the top with the thumb war.

Oh, wait. That's a good part is if you chigo, one, two, three, four. I declare. I declare. And then before you get Thumb War, you just fucking do it. You're like, sorry, Blitzkrieg. That's cheating. Yeah, I don't think that's allowed. Blitzkrieg. Y'all don't do, you know, Blitzkrieg. One, two, the blitzkrieg.

So that's actually the best strategy is before the game starts. You just start scoring buckets on the other team. Exactly. Cistering warm-ups. These count, right? These count, right? Just under the hoop. Swish, swish, swish, swish.

Swish, swish. Swish. This can count for one. I don't care. This is an I-Heart podcast. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years, until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls, came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up.

Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight. And so I pointed the gun at him and said this isn't a joke. A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old. And a centenarian re-discovers a love lost 80 years ago. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again?

Listen to heavyweight on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B. My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. This shit was not given to me. I worked my ass off for me.

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted, the kind body story. A podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize for. fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IvyF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 409 episode four of

Dirtyley's Ikegeist. Oh man, I can't believe we didn't see it until now. 4094? Revelations. Oh, God, boom. 94. Where the armor of Christ. Boom.

Protect yourself with the blood. Boom. You'll be in heaven. Boom. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Thursday, October 9th. Damn, another 9. It's showing up nines.

The nines are coming up. Uh, 2025. What a dude. This is, This is so stupid. You know how, like, I'll read off the days and, like, they'll just be like L's. It's like, kiss a cop day or some shit. First of all, it's up.

French a cop. It's a national moldy cheese day. And then also pro-life cupcake day. What the fuck is dumb as shit? Anyway, I prefer my cupcakes to be a little more progressive. Thank you. I like to mind be moldy, like the cheese that we're celebrating today. Yeah, where's the day for that?

fucking assholes. So is that like you buy a cupcake for a pro-life person? Who knows? Maybe that's a you convince someone to see the light by getting them like, maybe treat someone to a cupcake who's thinking about. What if that's what it took?

What if I just came out as pro-life because someone got me a cupcake? I was like, I'm sorry, guys. It was the last time you got me a cupcake. Somehow it wasn't money or these other things. It was a cupcake. Really charmed by this cupcake. My name is Jack.

O'Brien, a.K. He's bopping downstairs now. Whoa, oh, Obama walks good. That one courtesy of Snarfula on the Discord, in reference to Donald Trump's seething jealousy over how well Obama walks downstairs. Yeah. Just rubbing that shit in our faces, rubbing his flexible, functional knees in our faces. You can't do that. You can't be boop, boop.

You got to walk down cool and slow with your legs locked out like a robot from a 1950s sci-fi movie. That's the way to do. Just my rigid right leg has nothing to do with prefrontal dementia or whatever the experts are trying to say on the internet. It's called swag. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Bay, it's Miles Gray, aka, Mayo Capes keeps me real it gives me sexual feelings. Sexual feelings, baby. Mayo blows my mind.

Okay, shout out to our kid luck. We're talking about how Stephen Miller is a Mayo guy a few days ago, which is, we knew that, without even knowing that. We knew that. We knew that. Yeah. He was a Mayo guy before anything else. That was just assumed baseline, presumed.

Mayo guy. Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant anti-racism, educator, activist, writer, creator of the acclaimed podcast, White Homework. It's Torrey Williams Douglas! Hi, thanks for having me back. I'm so excited. This is the perfect week for me specifically to be here

as a Portlander who did not get raptured. So I'm grateful. Damn. Portland, we are sorry about that. Yeah, not the, not the federal invasion. About the rapture. No, no, no. About the rapture. Yeah, that's a bummer. Because one of those is made up. The rap, wait.

Which one? Which one's made? Tune in later for my overrated. Hell yeah. How is what's, I mean, like I think every time we have a guest on where the magical, the fash across America tour lands in their city, I'm guessing things feel shitty, a little muted because these people rolled up, although, you know, I'm sure all the actions limited to like two blocks of a city, but they're going to say your whole city's melting down. Well, I mean, the video that they posted, it was like, again, a beautiful day. like the video that like the whatever the the the fashion influencers betty johnson and them were posting it's like it was like a beautiful day there was some some media and a guy in a chicken suit i don't know i mean every time they say they're invading it's like it's gorgeous out what the fuck are you talking i know so yeah yeah it is it is deeply overrated yeah well i mean just also just but the the vibes instantly go down and you're like oh my god the goons are in town. Well, I mean, yes, in that, like, particular neighborhood, but the vibes have already

been down there. I think I've mentioned this before, because the ICE facility and the Tesla dealership are, like, right next to our neighbors. Oh, perfect. It's just a nonstop. Like, there's always just a couple of people there with signs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty much all day, every day, because it's a twofer, you know?

And so, yeah. Just to get fucked in your general direction. Yeah, yeah. To that part of that. And it's like, it's not a through street, so they're not like blocking traffic or anything. It's sort of a little bit of a dead end sort of situation. And people just like drive their Tesla's past the protesters every day. And then the protesters are like across the street from the ice facility.

It's a whole thing. The way, you're not going to get any help in there. If you're a Tesla, Tesla's customer service notoriously, they're like, I don't know, man. We don't really have people who work here. So you're kind of on your own. Come talk to our bot. Yeah. Oh, man.

Yeah, I saw Tesla getting towed out of my neighborhood yesterday. And I was like, oh, well, there it goes. There it is. None of it bites the dust. Couldn't have less sympathy for anyone in a Tesla. Tori, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about.

We're going to delve further into whatever sexually is going on between Stephen Miller, his wife, and Jesse Waters. because the vibes are strange. We talked yesterday about Jesse Waters' interview with Stephen Miller's wife where he, like, opened it up being like, so you're married to Stephen Miller, you must be the envy of every woman in America. And it was like, buddy, that was definitely sarcastic.

Wait a second. And he, like, kind of doubled down in a way that it's hard to read. Does he want to, like, be the third in their relationship? or is he mocking Stephen Miller? Right. You'll be the judge. We're going to play you some clips. And we'll talk about the question of whether going woke means going broke when it comes to the performance of movies, which,

spoil alert, does not. Before we get to any of that, story, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, I was trying to remember what animal or species evolved before. four sharks, because I know that sharks evolved like a shit ton long time ago. You're like millions of years, right? Yeah, I was like hundreds of millions of years, if I recall correctly. And so I was like, wait, what came before that?

And then I wound up on what I think is an AI website. It's called oldest. Oldest.org. So I was checking that out. It was great. They've got a list. Some of them look like they could be right. Horseshoe crab, jellyfish over 500 million years.

elephant shark it says 400 million I don't but I don't know and so I was like ooh I'm going to do some more research and see if this is an AI website or not and I think that it is because the the animal that you can see the oldest animal you can see you know that's visible to the naked eye on this website so like something post

bacteria or something that came after bacteria evolved are tenophores I think I pronounce that right comb jellies and on oldest dot org claims that comb jellies experience about half of the same diseases that humans do. And I was like, I don't think that's right. Oh, they got a little cold? The combs jails got a little cold?

Like, wait a second. So then I had to do a deep dive into that. Do comb jellies have the same diseases as humans? And Google AI tells me, no. I couldn't find the research that oldest.org looked up or said, they're like, the NIH is doing research on comb jellies because they're trying to figure out how like solve disease and I was like again I can't find this NIH paper that they failed to link to so anyway I'm just trying to figure out like what what animals evolved first yeah because I couldn't

remember it's a shame that you end up on some like AI slop website that's clearly just shitting out listicles I'm looking at oldest dot org and I'm like oh my god what is this and it's a little bit like internet 1990s like circa 1998 yeah yeah yeah yeah and so it's weird because it's like AI slot plus old timey internet. And I'm just like, I don't know what to make. It's a familiar mashup of the old and new. Just making shit up on the internet as the internet

is want to do. I like how my cursor changes into a sparkly wand when I hover over the links, like an old geo city's website of old. Horshoe crabs are the most ancient looking thing. When you look at those, you're like, oh, this is like out of... Old motherfuckers.

Yeah, this couldn't look any more. like it was a first draft that is just like kind of still hanging around. Oh yeah, that thing. Yeah. You flip that thing over. It's like a fucking horror movie in there, man. Flip it back over, flip it back over. They always get flipped over on the Jersey

shore on the beach of the Ocean City and it's just fucking gnarly under there because they live for a long time and they get like barnacles and all these like other things like growing on them. Can you eat them? Horshoe crabs? Not that I've ever They're mainly, like, plates and hard things.

I don't think you'd want to eat a horseshoe crab. The one place I'm seeing a horseshoe crab thing is Bush Guide 101. So it sounds like you're probably not choosing to eat a horseshoe crab. Sure. Okay. Also, you're probably not on Bush Guide looking for this information. I think you got here going for something else. I'm on Bush Guide trying to go figure out what's going on with these crabs in my bush.

Desserted Island Guy is what I'm looking for Reddit and Wikipedia Like that's the only thing That I like go to There's just a R slash revolution Or R slash evolution from five years ago It has all the information that you need

It's and then AI is just remixing that shit Over and over again It looks like a website from 2008 Because that is what they're remixing They're just chopping it up Oh no you can eat them entirely Okay

I'm sure you could I'd eat a Thai horseshoe crab before I ate a New Jersey, like a Jersey Shore one. That's for sure. Yeah, the Jersey Shore ones all have, like, drug problems and shit. Yeah, that's what it works on. They're high. Yeah, they're high on cocaine that gets left from the water. That's right.

But I, like, I saw one that was, had washed up and I, like, flipped it back over. And it just pulled a reverse. Like, it was just, like, looking at me and just, like, reversed into the ocean. Oh, like Homer Bush gift? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was kind of cool. Whoa.

What is something. You think is underrated, Tori? I have to say underrated for me recently is if you have kids, the 7-Eleven app, because they give you discounts on like slurpees and shit. And my kids love that stuff. So I've been going in there and my kids just get all their little treats. And it comes up to like $4. And all you have to do is give them like your cell phone or your email.

And I think that that is a worthwhile tradeoff for 7-Eleven. For cheap treats, for the kids, yeah. Yeah. Part of kids. Do you have like a special 7-Eleven? an email that you just like, yeah, Tori 711 at hotmail.com.

Yeah. Yeah, AOL. Yeah, but it's, it's great if you, uh, me give your kids treats that you grew up with as a child that most millennial parents don't allow their children to have like, you know, blue slurpees. God, blue slurpees are so good.

Jack, you like your kids have blue slurpees? Not yet. No. Oh, wow. The cops are here. That's fair. That's fair. Look us valid.

Wow. Outsourcing the blame. Like, looking back at what I was drinking at their age, like, I was on a, like, I had a strong preference in the Pepsi versus Coke debate at age seven. I was like, nah, I'm a Pepsi guy. Get this Coke out of here. I'm like, my kids have never had a Pepsi. I'm sure. I'm sure.

They've never had a Pepsi. They'd be fine. Mm-mm. They've never had, like, a caffeinated beverage. Okay, but I need to float an idea here, guys. Look how young we all look. I know, we look great. Yeah, but Jack was drinking all that shit, though.

I know. I'm saying, despite that. Yeah, right, right, right. We look great. And that is what I decided after the discourse came up of why do millennials look so good. I was like, oh, shit. My kids are getting mac and cheese and hot dogs. My kids are getting blue slurpees.

Yeah, it's all fine. I'm just like, I'm giving all of this to them because you still look great. So why not? Certainly it's not genetics at all. It's your mac and cheese diet. But our parents, I mean, our parents aged like normal people, and we are not aging like normal people. I'm just floating less. Well, I think we also don't have, like, we didn't have, like, our parents.

We didn't have, like, parents with, like, PTSD and didn't know what it was. So just, like, fucking freaked out on them all the time. And then we got, like, we got, like, the lesser version of that. And then also, we didn't have to, like, man, like, just when I think about, like, this shit, my parents said they used to do it as, like, kids for work. And I'm like, what? My grandpa was like, I had to steal coal from the coal yard in Chicago to keep the house clean. I was like, how old? He's like, 11?

And I'm like, oh, God, damn. Yeah, no wonder, my ass was playing Donkey Kong country and shit. Not, that cortisol was not building up at that age. I'll say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and they were all smoking. They were all drinking. Like, everybody was, yeah.

Just like, looking back at, like, articles from the 80s where people are like, A new controversial law passed says people can't drink and drive. And then they, like, interview people who are like, yeah, right. I'd like to see them take this beer out of my hand, like, as they drive away and a pickup drive into a light pole. Yeah, I got to go. Oh, my God. The reporting coming out, the, like, secondhand smoke is a thing. They're like, come on.

I'm not smoking. How could it possibly affect me? Some of my fondest memories are being with my mom in Japan as, like, because, you know, she didn't have a babysitter or something. So I'd go with her like a work dinner, but it was late, so I would fall asleep, like, on her lap. And just all the cigarettes smoke above me from all the people smoking cigarettes at the table. And I was just like, ah, the familiar scent of mother and cigarettes. Yeah. My grandma would come through.

There was not an option of, like, making her smoke outside. So we just had, like, some fan thing that was in our house. But oftentimes not in the same room as her as she was just. Ripping through a pack a day. Right, right, right. It was fine. Oh, wait, this is that one where they go. When they're talking about the people drinking and driving.

When a fella can't put in a hard day's work, put in 11, 12 hours a day, and then getting your truck and the lease around one or two beers. They're making it laws where you can't drink when you want to. You have to wear a seatbelt when you're driving. Pretty soon we're going to become this country. That was the argument against seatbelts. Like, New York and California are forcing people to wear seatbelts. This is government overreach in your car. Yeah, the communist man.

You're going to tell me to be in a communist country, man. Make you fucking buckle up. Think about what that did to us. Think about what that did to our brains and to our spirits to have to be caged in by seatbelts every time we drive in a car. By getting an accident, I want to be thrown clear. Yeah. Straight through the winchings. You used to be able to surf on top of the car when you were driving on the highway.

looks like the rapture. Like I'm ascending into heaven from the accident because my body's launched at the fucking sunroof. Boom. Boom. There he goes. We got the armor of God on. Saved. Boom. I still haven't gotten a good answer to this and maybe we can ask Tori. But like what how much does being indoors prevent you from being physically rapture? Because like all of the videos I saw people people's forms were being like lifted up into the sky. Like are glad our windows breaking as people are being raptured? Are they getting like smashed against the ceiling? Are they getting chopped up by a fan? That's the comedic version of the rapture. There's there's dueling theories or I guess dueling theologies you might say about whether you get raptured like bodily like your body gets physically taken up into the sky. Sucked off into the sky. Yeah. I like that. I think what I mean like we we believed that like yeah your whole body would just ascend but you'd get zoips right. It wasn't like you had to go through, like, the airplane ceiling. No, no, it wasn't in the Bible.

This was just like what we... Sounds biblical. The Bible calls it being yoinked by, yeah. Invoiced up to heaven. And thou shalt be sucked off into the sky. Yeah, so some people thought like your whole body went. Some people thought your clothes got left. That became very popular because, you know, no sex.

Same rules as Terminator time travel. You can't. Only naked forms. Yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. I mean, clothes can't time travel. I think that's just established fact. Peter Thiel said so. And so, yeah. If you got rapture while you were pooping. What if you got rapture while you were having sex? Like that was just the awkwardness of that. Well, you were having sex. You miss the boat. Well, you procreative sex with a human with a remarried. With a married, opposite sex, opposite gender partner. Yeah, yeah. I'm just saying it could be awkward to have your naked form appear. But in heaven, you're like, you got Barbie parts. That is biblical. That's in scripture.

Oh, for real? Yeah. You don't need it. Leave all that. Yeah. Ugly business fund. Wait, so you can't even nut in heaven? No, absolutely not.

Jesus said this very clearly. This is fucked up. Hold on, bro. It's so boring. What did Jesus say? He's like, bro, you ain't going to scrub one out up here? You don't leave that down there. They were arguing over, some people were arguing with Jesus over like,

okay, if you get married and then your wife dies. and then you get remarried and then you go to heaven who are you married to? That was like the trick question that they tried to get Jesus with and he was like, God is ass, they started high-fiving.

Yeah. Nobody's getting married. That is some next level cult leader shit when they go, well, what about thinking you got Jesus tripped up and goes, how about this asshole? You got no dick. So don't worry about it.

Next question. Got him. And he goes and high-fives all the 12s. Oh, you cook. You were cooking, Jesus. you were fucking cooking, bro. What is something you think is overrated? Oh, man.

A Portland being a hot spot, a hotbed of Antifa activity, highly overrated. Our exploits are just really popping off. And I just, you know, we're here. We're doing our best. But most of us are at work, guys. Like, you don't need to invade. Most of us are taxpayers, honestly, unfortunately, for everyone. And that's why there's only like,

The one frog guy down at the ice headquarters. Like, that's why it's only that one dude down there by himself. Wasn't there someone wearing a stitch costume too? I think I saw someone in a stitch costume also. Yeah, I believe so. Or maybe that's Chicago. There was a unicorn. Come on.

The frog guy has like magic powers. Yeah. He's like helping the ice officers. Oh, yeah. They're like, yeah. He's like air pumping in front of them. Yeah, I seen him do that. And they're not.

And they're really not there for it. And it's great. Anyway, yeah, but in terms of like our violence, I would say that Portland violence is overrated, just as a general role. It's pretty fucking chill here. It's not a big town. Just confirming this is coming from somebody who lives in Portland. And I don't know. I'm just saying it sounds like somebody who might work in the HR department of Antifa.

I mean, I live in Portland, Maine. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah. I live in Portlandia. That's right. All right. Well, we are going to take a quick break. We're going to come back.

We'll talk Rapture. We'll talk Jesse Waters. We'll be right back. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved. until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV.

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer, And I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her. Or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County,

a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight, I help a centenarian mend a broken heart. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again?

And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the gun at him and said, this isn't a joke. And he got down, and I remember feeling kind of a surge of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother try to solve my problems through hypnotism. We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time. Being more able to look people in the eye. Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to Heavyweight on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B. My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. How do you think you're misunderstood? I'm not this evil, mean person that people think that I am. I'm too compassionate.

I have sympathy for that my man. You put so much heart and soul into your work. What's the hardest part? for you to take that criticism. This shit was not given to me. I worked my ass off for me. Even when I was a stripper, I'm going to be the best pole dancer in here. When was the moment you felt I did it?

I still, to this day, don't feel comfortable. I fight every day to keep this level of success because people want to take it from you so bad. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeard podcast present.

IVF disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands and then to find out again that you're just not.

Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio, app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. Back. I do just want to say, not that it's like holier than now, because I, so no blue slushies. Yeah, I think we actually have done slushies. I do let them

vape, but it's like they can't do any of the sweet. But they can't inhale. They can't do They can't do the sweet flavors. It's just pure tobacco flavors. So they, you know. Yeah. Otherwise, they might get addicted. 10 milligrams. It's an acquired taste.

That's right. Tori, any update on the rapture, I know, we've been waiting breathlessly on the edge of our seats to see if there would be some sort of massive event that would make humanity on Earth like 40% cooler. Yeah. with the with the departure of all uh christians rapturable christian yes yeah rapture yeah eligible christians because not all there's an asterisk yeah so yeah how is the how is the uh on again off again rapture experience been for you you know i am not someone who has rapture anxiety but i did as a child for sure like you know because i saw you post i mean like i think most people may or may not know you have a evangelical background.

But when I saw the other day, you post something about your mom and the rapture, I was like, I'm going to bring this up when Tories on the show again. Yeah. Okay, so there was a rapture warning in May of 2011. And some guy, warning. Yeah. Some guy was like, I got the date. I did the calculations.

Here's the math. May, I think it was the 11th or 12th of 2011. And, you know, my parents are. big rapture fans, big rapture watchers. They, when I was a child, owned a book called 89 reasons. Jesus is coming back in 1989. You can look it up. You can get it on eBay.

Damn. So they've been calling their show. Oh, yes. Because that is such a bad idea for religion. I've always said, putting that shit on wax like that. Yeah. Just a brief. Like, I am not, I do not study religion's history.

But the one thing I know is like when you're starting a branch of religion, that's the one sure. fire way to have people just like give your shit a stamped on expiration date. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah, absolutely. So that's how I was raised, right? It was with Rapture Watch.

Yeah. Pretty much all the time. Jesus could come back at any time. I was told for very clearly, in retrospect, anti-Semitic reasons. Jesus is going to come back during a Jewish holiday because Jesus was Jewish and he just wanted to make it all about him. Apparently, he's also a big dick. Um, and so, uh, yeah, there was, there was a lot of chatter about that.

And then 2011, you know, rolled around. And I, you know, at that point, thankfully, was a lot more skeptical. And there were billboards. I don't know if you remember this. But like, Portland and Seattle at least had billboards that were like, the rapture's happening. May 2011. Give your life to Jesus where you'll get left behind.

You'll burn in hell forever. And so my mom decided to, in the group chat with all of us kids. She was like, hey, so the rapture's happening tomorrow. Here's my bank account and mortgage information. See you never, apparently. So she knew. She knew she was going. And we were not going to make it. We weren't going to, we weren't. And again, I think most of us identified as Christians at this point. So it was like, it was like the asterisk, like the got to read the fine print of like, you know, the Catholics are not going to heaven. Like let's just be real clear about that. Right. Oh yeah. No Catholics, no Mormons.

that's what really struck me about like a lot about when I was kind of reading your posts about it right because like the funny like I went to Lutheran K through 8 and Catholic high school and like we didn't the Lutherans aren't talking about they don't know Revelations isn't some shit they're into but when I got to Catholic high school then I heard it and I was like the fuck are you all talk like that's and I was like sir what and like the version that I feel like we for people who are sort of outside of Christianity like that is like this very goofy thing. Like, we've played this video before, and I'll play it for you since you're here, Tori, of just, like, stuff like this depiction of the rapture, it's like, boom. Hold on, bro, don't scroll. This is the rapture and how it's going to happen. There's a guy with, like, we just to describe to people who weren't listening last time. Yeah. It's, like, sim level is, like, the very first version of Grand Theft Auto, like, you know, that level of character animation, guy walking down the street. and then he's just narrating, like, all these things that are happening in the video game reality, acting as if he's narrating, like, a news event.

Yes. Like, this is news real. But, again, this is the version that I think is really funny that we always, like, laughing at because the version is, like, these people just get sucked off into the sky and leave their clothes. Check it out. Look, it's crazy. Trump is sound, guys. There's a light. There's Jesus.

Boom. Clipart Jesus. Jesus returns. Boom. Boom. Look at that. Look at that. The clothes are gone.

Gone. These people Wow y'all Wow y'all The souls The dead Look at this baby Boom gone

Boom gone You know like In reading your post You talk about sort of like The deeply violent version of how Like a lot of real believers Look at the rapture

Like whereas me from the outside And being familiar enough Christianity's like Yeah you go to heaven But they're like Oh no not just that The others fucking suffer and die And that's what I'm also

here for the left behind yeah if you get yeah if you get left behind the theology kind of varies a little bit but yeah you will suffer and there's a point uh well you'll suffer because god decides to pour out all of his wrath on the earth so he's like he's like I haven't been here for a minute I'm taking all my shit out on you guys and so wait what was 9-11 then we were told 9-11 was because gay marry oh okay no that's what it was right but like that's just like little you it's like little tremors before like the real big one hits right and so yeah like all kinds of like diseases plagues famine all sorts of shit going down and this is for everybody who gets left on the earth after all of the people get like yeated into heaven who deserve the deserving people

so you know like donald trump those types um and so i think it's very important i think I've just been hearing about this heaven stuff, and I think it's very important, very good. He's obsessed with heaven, yeah. Because there's no other reason to be good. They say that's the only reason to not be bad is because you want to have to be good, right? No other reason to be good, right? No other reason not to be bad.

Yeah, no. And so anyway, yeah, everyone's just going to be like having a real bad time. And then it's going to get even worse so that like you can't, you want people to die, even though you're suffering. So people will be trying to end their own lives because they're suffering so much because of all the plagues and the famine and the war and the demon locuses and like, you know, what and everything else. And then people are going to try to like take their own lives and they won't be able to. So it's just going to be like zombie land, I guess. Yeah.

People are just like real fucked up, just wandering around. It sounds like being a vampire. It's like, wait, I'm invincible? It's super. Well, except you experience a lot of pain. I don't know, that's a relative term. That's fair. Like, I'm like the one guy.

They're like, aren't you seven? I'm like, nah, that's cool, man. I grew up in the valley. It's so specifically grafted over Miles's kink. Every single one of these things is like playing directly into Miles's pain and invincibility kick. Oh, shit. My one question is what is the mood like after May, like June 2011, the next.

next time you see your mom? Like, what is her mood like? What are, what can we expect from our fellows, the boom guy? Like, what, how's he feeling today? Now the rapture has not happened. Do they just move on to the next one? They're like, let's rejigger these numbers around. I love this.

Yeah, no, I love this question, honestly. And it's really interesting because the failed rapture predictions, like, tend to make people believe it more. Yeah, double down. It's sort of like how if you're wearing your lucky socks and the Cubs lose, again, you're going to be more likely to wear your lucky socks next time than to go, oh, this didn't help.

They weren't dirty enough. I just need to wear them longer and without washing them next time. So they're really like not affected by it. But again, I think that we're talking about a group of people, especially for like Christian nationalist types, that, like, shame doesn't really factor in for them in a weird way, right? You don't really make them feel shame.

Yeah. And that's... I mean, it factors in, like, I wonder, I feel like there's, yeah, the, what they're giving the rest of us is going to be like, I don't care, you know? Right. Like, Ray J. Try and break them. Yeah.

The Ray J clip where you're like, try and break them, speed. Okay, breaks them. I don't care. I don't care. Like, they immediately, like, switch to that. But, like, there has to be something. underneath where, because it does seem like that shame is a currency that operates

in that belief system, right? So, but I guess it's like never feeling shame about what you believe or that you believe, right? Like, that's the one thing that you have. Well, I think it puts them further into the fold, right? It makes them circle the wagons harder, you know? So they're, I mean, if they're feeling shame, they're more likely to cut off people

who they don't think the rapture's going to happen then they are to stop believing that the rapture is going to happen. Sure, right, right. And so it is really weird, and it becomes, it's not like a self-fulfilling prophecy, but it becomes this weird dynamic of like the, and you can read about this going back to the 1800s, that people would predict the rapture, everybody would gather on the hilltop.

Yep, yep. And then it was like, okay, nothing happened. And then like entire churches and movements were born this way because of a failed prediction. Yeah, right. One guy predicted and, like, you know, predicted a rapture that didn't happen. And 150 years later, we have the branched Dividians. Like, that's, you know?

Yeah. That was where we got seven-stained. Literally. Literally, that's what happened. So, uh, not great. Not great. I think we'll be fine. Okay.

Boom. Boom. I think everyone would be happier if the evangelicals, again, got sucked off into heaven. Yeah. Everyone would be happier. They don't want to be here. Trumpet sounds. We don't want him here.

Boom. Boom. Gone. Genitals. Speaking of Christian Nationalists and getting sucked off. Jesse Waters is either fucking Stephen Miller's wife or wants to fuck Stephen Miller or is so hard. I don't know. There's something.

Something is going on here. I can't tell. Like, it seems like he is either genuinely attracted to Stephen Miller or like he's mocking. I really think it's like. or putting him down to make him look better to Katie Miller, his wife. Because, again, we were talking about this maybe yesterday or the day before. Just the timeline of how Jesse Waters has been talking about Stephen Miller, right? The first one was a sexual matador quote that was about two weeks ago when he had Katie Miller,

Stephen Miller's wife on. And again, this can be seen as like a joke, but just, just, this is Stephen Miller, or this Stephen Miller's wife on Jesse Waters show. you are married to Stephen Miller so you are the envy of all women. What is that like? The sexual matador, right? What is it like being married to such

a sexual matador? Now, again, I think he had, so I think he had called him a sexual matador before on his show on Mike, jokingly. So she's referencing Oh, she's repeating. She's repeating it. Okay. But like, it's not a thing

I would love my wife to be like, doing on national TV is like mocking somebody who like mocks how and it grant i have the sexual charisma of an 80s tv sitcom dad so i'm not like i'm not like you better say that i'm cool but they didn't call him allen thick for no reason jack thank you uh but it just feels like there there's a real energy between these two and then just the laugh even like right there's one version the if you're reading this like a salacious soap opera it's that they laugh about stephen miller as they are canoodling right but then there's a version where he's just like i don't know like the way he laughs when she's like the sexual mattador right and he goes like ha ha ha well i'm like is it

because you don't like what what's the point of this anyway he was back at this like weird uh Stephen miller's too sexy for this earth uh sort of bit that he's been doing on the five like right said Fred, a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. Like, in the best, on his best day and, like, in, you know, the most, yeah, preserved in formaldehyde for 28 years, maybe. So Tuesday night, Waters is on the five, and he talks about, like, they bring up that clip where AOC was talking about Stephen Miller and how he's, like, short and blah, blah, blah,

and how Stephen Miller's like, oh, she's a train wreck, right? But I just want to play, like, Stephen Miller, or Jesse Waters, not this whole thing, doesn't let go of this thing that Stephen Miller's so hot. And this is, I just want to, I'm just having such trouble wrapping my head around. Like what, what's subconsciously going on or just in his overt consciousness? But here he is talking about AOC and what she doesn't get about Stephen Miller. Sulted by AOC. No, I think AOC wants to sleep with Miller. It is so obvious. And I'm sorry, you can't have him. Miller, Miller is the best. I know, well socially and the man is not overcompensating Dana I know when people are overcompensating

I know people at this table who are overcompensating that person is me ha ha ha ha okay so he goes on he starts talking about like this guy is he's like here's a deal he's like which you got to understand something let me mansplain something to you aOC about Stephen Miller and she lays out his case even further as to why he's so hot you know United States. This is what IOC doesn't get about men. Miller is a high value man because he has power and influence because he has vision and he's on a mission to save this republic and protect Western civilization. He speaks with confidence. He's saying that like with the verb of like a true white nationalist. You know what I mean? He's like he's mission oriented. He's trying to save

Western civilization. He's also saying it with a straight face on Fox News as people are audibly, like, belly laughing in the background. With the side by side of Stephen Miller, who is just objectively not hot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, he actually makes, this is weird because it's like, it's making Jesse Waters look way better than he normally does, because you got Stephen Miller's face next to him. And Stephen Miller is a scary looking dude. Yeah, like transparently so. And, like, the fact that the Fox News hosts are, like, laughing at him being, like, he's a high-value male.

He's super, he speaks with confidence. No, he does not. Yeah, and, like, so they think he's foolish? Like, come on, man, Stephen Miller sucks. Like, what's the laughter cover? Is it coming from the discomfort that he's talking about how attractive a man is? I don't know. Again, he continues.

Men who are high-value men like Stephen Miller take risks. They're brave. They're unafraid. They're confident. And they're on a mission. and they have younger wives with beautiful children. I think I just gave him like a dating recommendation. I don't know, man.

That was pretty creepy. You lost Gutfeld there. I don't know, man. I don't know, man. That was pretty creepy. I did not like that, man. Afterwards, like, they're like, all right, enough, Jesse. Then they ask, you know, the liberal Jessica Tarlov, like, for her take on everything that's going on.

And then Jesse Waters interrupts again to just bring up this thing about Steve. Like everyone's like, okay, fine, you're dumb bit about how hot Stephen Miller is like is over. But he comes back around to it. If you can't sense the sexual chemistry that's oozing from Stephen Miller's beautiful face, then you don't get it. Oosing from you about Stephen Miller. I think that that's where when he says his beautiful face, like that's where it makes it clear to me that he, is trying he is doing a weird like cucking thing to stephen miller that but like he can't get in trouble because he's saying it with as straight a face as he possibly can but like okay if you if you want

to be like he's the leader of our party and like that makes him attractive like fine but if you're saying that he his face is objectively yeah is objectively oozing sexual charisma you like that is like no nobody is standing behind that with without like at least a heaping teaspoon of a fucking but then you're so then you're just taking open shots like what's the point of this like if that's the that's driving the irony of a statement like that it's like well i'm saying that because clearly he's hideous right ha ha ha and yeah yeah i have a theory though this is so interesting because you all remember when like elon was shown up in the white house with the black guy. And everyone was like, oh, it's because he's fucking Stephen Miller's wife.

Right, right, right. Which was a great, I really like that rumor personally. Yeah, I loved it too. But I think that it makes a lot of sense to me that, that Stephen Miller and his wife would be open because he is a hideous demon. And, you know, she's conventionally attractive, I think. She's also not that young. I think she's like, what, 36 or something. So I don't know what, I don't know what he was, I don't know what Jesse was going on about. I think he was sending a message to her that, like, you're young, you're beautiful, you have beautiful children. But this is, so, it is kind of a weird, a weird cuck dynamic, though, for sure. And I think that, like, maybe there was a tradeoff of you can sleep with my wife if you tell them how powerful and sexy, attractive and compelling I am as a human being.

Right. Like, and that was, like, a fair trade. Like, I could see that being a fair trade to Stephen Milver. Yeah, because, I mean, that analysis in the context of we saw Jesse Waters talking to. Stephen Miller's wife on his show and she referenced him calling him a sexual matador and they both burst into laughter.

That's just, that's some cuck shit. Also, I would just like to say this is not appropriate for children. So like, why is Fox News sexualizing children by talking about this? Thank you. They should be taken off the air because they're sexualizing children by exposing them to this. We don't have to

we're not, we're not abiding to any kind of FCC regulations. So we can say whatever we want, including just outright lies and misinformation. Anyway, he's a sexual matador, and he's the hottest human being in this country. There's sexual charisma oozing from his face. There's something oozing from his face.

That's mayonnaise. That's mayonnaise. That's mannays. It's mayonnaise. Okay. He hasn't he ate too much mayonnaise, and it's just coming out of all of his pores. He went Winnie the Pooh on the fucking jar of mayonnaise, okay? Put his whole head in there. It would fit. He has a great head for sticking

it inside a jar of mayonnaise. Manease jars? Yeah. Yeah. It's like the perfect shape. Yeah. That's a great point. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll talk about how the right is winning the culture wars. We'll be right back. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in great. Waves County, Kentucky, went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of

girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer,

and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight,

I help a centenarian mend a broken heart. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again? And I help a man atone for an armed robbery he committed at 14 years old. And so I pointed the gun at him and said, this isn't a joke. And he got down, and I remember feeling kind of a serious. of like, okay, this is power. Plus, my old friend Gregor and his brother try to solve my problems through hypnotism.

We could give you a whole brand new thing where you're like super charming all the time. Being more able to look people in the eye. Not always hide behind a microphone. Listen to Heavyweight on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B.

My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. How do you think you're misunderstood? I'm not this evil, mean person that people think that I am. I'm too compassionate. I have sympathy for that my man. You put so much heart and soul into your work.

What's the hardest? spark for you to take that criticism. This shit was not given to me. I worked my ass off for me. Even when I was a stripper, I'm going to be the best pole dancer in here. When was the moment you felt I did it? I still, to this day, don't feel comfortable.

I fight every day to keep this level of success because people want to take it from you so bad. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Chetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant

about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present IVF disrupted the Kind Body story. A podcast about a company

that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients.

You think you're finally, like, with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, starting September 19 on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back we're back and uh we've all heard go woke go broke the tired culture war rallying cry used to explain movies like the marvels light year and uh the 2016 ghostbusters reboot as you know but they were box office bombs because they tried to go woke so somebody from

guinness world records uh stephen follows did a film data analysis where he put all the box office performance of, I think, 10,000 films into an algorithm to see if it's true that, like, diverse casting and identity-driven stories harm the box office performance of a movie. And what they found absolutely no surprise is it doesn't harm it. What they found instead is that it can have a substantially positive effect on commercial success. No. No. By showing, by changing from the practice that was commenting years in Hollywood for showing

only movies starring like 25% of the population of white men, like that, that fixing that is unpopular. That's so wild. Hmm. But I mean, like just we, we have talked about like the Fast and the Furious franchise, be, like, an action franchise with a diverse cast for once. Holy shit, and it becomes this, like, world-beating box office phenomenon. But, like, that doesn't get classified as a movie that is, like,

capitalizing on diversity. The only time that it ever gets attached to that is if they are, you know, if it's an unsuccessful movie, they start from there, and then they, well, they don't start from there. First, they'll be like, this is woke, this is bullshit, like, there'll be, like, a simmering thing. And then if the movie doesn't do well, then it will get attached to being a thing. But it's their favorite logical fallacy of, like, Western colonial media is the sampling error,

where you just find one example of the thing that you want to be true and then just, like, scream about that example and, like, claim that it, like, proves some sort of law about how everything operates. It's just a mantra to sort of soothe themselves that they're so on the outside of like mainstream culture that it's like, well, yeah, they went broke. So they go woke so they're broke. And it's like, yeah, because you did such a great job with Curig. That went completely down the drain and Volvo and fucking Nike and all these places where I think it helps soothe their sort of imaginations that to be like, well, we don't like that and now they're going to be suffering as a business. But if I do any actual financial analysis, I will find that maybe that's, action. That's not the case. Yeah. There's been multiple studies. There's a 2024 study that also found that it's also not a thing in advertising, like you were saying, the Curig thing and the bud light controversy, like actually more inclusive campaigns have a positive impact on profit, sales, and brand worth, like transparently. Do you believe it? What are you talking about? Do you believe it?

I think that, well, okay, so this is a bit really interesting. I think that something, you know, like the fast and Furious franchise has got a lot of like traditionally like masculine characters. So I think that they wouldn't go after that as much because they're still cool with that with like masculinity kind of bordering on toxicity. If that's like, I'm not saying that those characters are inherently toxicly masculine, but like some of them are, right? If you go, yeah. Men who say more than three words in a sentence are actually a feminine.

Like to be a real man, you just have to like speak in one to three words sentences. Yeah. Or grunts. and grab boos or whatever gas escapes your mouth as your body decomposes. Totally. So they pick very specific things, I think, to go after with the Go-O-Go-Brow because it doesn't always work. But then, I mean, I think that it is, yeah, it is also worth noticing,

like the movies that they just completely ignore and that, you know. Yeah, it also, that do really, they do really well, right? Like Black Panther, for example, was not, they can't use that as like a Go-WO-Go-Broke and it made a billion dollars. Like, I don't know what to tell you. You know, with, like, a black cast and a, like, black director, producer. And, like, yeah, so they really pick very specific things to go after with this line. And I think that that's worth paying attention to as well.

Well, I think it's also just a way to weaponize inclusion, like, as a way to sort of immediately disregard what happened. Like, so, like, you see this a lot. Like, if a film has, like, it's, like, fronted by women or women of color, people of color, the immediate thing is, like, well, how women of color as the stars, that's, that's what went wrong as a way to, again, sort of punish the mere concept of representing these people on the screen. But again, no talk of the actual decision makers who put, who make the film, who finance the film, who do the marketing, who for all intents and purposes are the ones who are kind of behind the success or failure of a film, not merely just like, well, this person of color was in it. And that's what happened.

Rather than all the other people, the other stakeholders who, who would actually be held responsible if you're like thinking of like how a studio would look at it they're not going to be like well it's not this actor they're like what the fuck was that producers we just gave all that money to to make this shit what the what are you thinking here but again I think it's like a real

reflexive way too that subtly helps sort of try and discourage the inclusion of like diverse people whether they're in front or behind the camera because like this was like was snow white it was just like oh Rachel Zegler it's like she didn't write the movie there's so many other people you can blame for that movie

being wrong. And I think it's just a very easy way to then be like, not only did they go broke, but we can also try and chill the sort of enthusiasm to represent other kinds of people on Scream. It's always just, that's the explanation. But this is exactly what we were talking about with the rapture, right? Where if they make this claim, go broke and the movie still does well, they're just like, oh, we don't care. Yeah, nobody pays attention to a movie that does well. There's no subsequent story being like, that's why that movie did well. It's, well, that movie was special. You know, it was like telling a special story.

Right, exactly. These are unique circumstances. Like, most movies are flops. The vast majority of movies, it's like that you have like 10 hit movies a year that pay for hundreds of movies that tank. So there's no shortage of movies that they can point to and be like, this sucked. Like, this was bad and here's why. But, like, you know, they found that it was like horror sports and music films in particular, like diverse casting and identity driven stories can have. a substantially positive effect on commercial success.

Those are also films that are seen by younger audiences. So again, it's just like old people in Hollywood being like, I don't know about this stuff. And just going with trends begrudgingly, fucking heel drag marks trailing behind the movies that they greenlight because they are looking at the trends and seeing that, like, telling more diverse stories will reach. more people and and then there's also yeah to your point tory like the the how we metabolize

movies that do well and don't do well like we we talked earlier this year about sinners which is like one of the most surprising out of nowhere to according to if you just like read film and like the variety industry media going in everyone was like this this is a real risk that's not going to pay off. It was like the biggest hit of the year when it came out. Like it was a massive hit. And like the first week after it came out and was a massive hit, the way that they chose to write about it was like, still not out of the woods on that one. Because have to wait and see even though it's made its budget back already. Yeah. And then like it just kept the audience just like kept growing like week over week. It was like wild. So they they don't.

acknowledge the wins when there's a win for like maybe we don't just let white men tell these stories when there is a movie that does badly that is you know like the ghost busters reboot movie is like you know being told by a white guy and it is like sort of I don't know first of all I don't think it's like that bad of a movie but like the way it was message was like probably could have been handled better but it's not like it was handled by Melissa McCarthy like that she was like, and I came up with a marketing campaign for this. You know, it's, and so, like, you have, sometimes it feels cynical and people respond negatively to that, but that's the only thing that, like, breaks through.

And it's very frustrating that there's, like, there's a rule in advertising and film, this idea of, like, go woke, go broke, which, by the way, comes from a science fiction author named John Ringo. Great name. Came up during a Milo Yanopoulos on his website. But his theory,

which had been applied to a billion-dollar film franchises by national news outlets, originated with, again, the author of There Will Be Dragons. And I just, we have the cover

of There Will Be Dragons in the dock. It is a woman warrior in the like smallest bikini possible and a huge bell and arrow. It's a ceremonial garb of her people. Yeah, of course. Do a lot of world building in my books. But every female of this group does have at least as I write in my book

double D breasts. That's an important detail for my listeners or my readers actually. But it doesn't take much. It doesn't take much for like these ideas to get shoehorned in. Like the, you know, conservative ideas. They're just looking for, I mean, they have a whole media apparatus propped up by billionaires who are just waiting to, for an idea like this that either, you know, resonates with people or in this case, just rhymes. And that's good enough for them. They're like, yeah, we're going to run with this one, guys. I mean, it is the thing like, you know, that theory, everyone's 12 now. It's like sort of like, an apple a day keeps the doctor away. Oh, yeah, okay. It makes sense to me. You go broke. Oh, who

said that John Ringo, who also wrote this book, The Last Centurion, that has a subplot about a Hillary Clinton-like president who screws up the vaccine rollout during a pandemic due to her belief in socialized medicine. It was prescient, though. This description, this critical analysis of his work says Ringo's inimitable writing style in which no breasts are too big, no hero goes unfucked by multiple large-pressed women and no terrorist goes unpunished. And these books are truly a piece of work. Man. Oh, boy. They are freaking out about one battle after another, by the way. That's their new thing that they're really worried. Ben Shapiro is calling it like an act of radical, a call for radical left-wing violence. It says, you can make excuses for it,

but basically the film is an apology for radical left-wing terrorism. That's what it is. It is the subtlety of a brick. The basic suggestion is a conspiracy theory in which the United States is run by white supremacist Christian nationalists, and all people color and a few nice and competent fellow travelers like DiCaprio are going to take on that entire system. And that system is to be taken

out at the cost of a family, at the cost of friendship, at the cost of decency, at the cost of basic. This guy's fucking losing it. It is so rare because that is the storyline of most movies. Most movies are like farm guy takes on the empire, you know, like in Star Wars.

It's like something like that where it's just like it lends itself at least as much to like the right. So to like have a story where it's like sort of a left, something with left wing values, like being the underdog and taking on. And obviously they have to completely make up like this organized armed resistance on the left or, you know, borrow from the 1960s in a lot of cases, but the fact that, like, just putting that on screen freaks them out this much, I think is funny. I think they probably just saw how they're like,

they're like, wait, so we're kind of like the, the, the, the white nationalist side? Is that what? Yeah. Damn, that, I wish I was the other cool guys in the movie, but I guess I'm the bad guys in the, I don't like this at all. Yeah, he's, you know,

I think also just as a failed screenwriter, it probably just irks him just to see people make films like this while he has to go and just hold loose pieces of wood in a parking lot to be like, and I am man. Yes. Well, he also writes his books.

Come on. Yeah, that's true. They're really good. Everybody should check out Robert Evans' reading series of his books. They're very good. He's a great, compelling writer. Yeah.

Really? Again, no breasts are too large for Ben Shapiro. Yeah. And if you think that it's a paranoid conspiracy that small groups of right-wing white nationalists run the U.S. government. I mean, now it is a conspiracy that they're small and secretly running the U.S. government. Yeah, right, right. There is a proud tradition of these weird groups being like, you know, the KKK, from the KKK to the John Birch Society to, you know, so there's plenty of stuff to work with about like,

silly old white guys with like secret handshakes meeting and having like racist policy discussions yeah so we'll have to maybe we'll have to dig into some of those in a future episode i feel like that might be what is the christmas adventures i'm not saying it out loud jack i don't want to knock on my door that's right that's true you know what i mean all hell st nick though all hell St. Nick. Tori, such a pleasure having you, as always, on the Daily Zekegeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah. You can check out my podcast, white homework, which is about anti-racism and collective liberation that I do with, Benjamin Faye. You can also check out my ex-evangelical podcasts where we are keeping an eye on the rapture at all times.

It's called Go Home Bible, You're Drunk, which I do with Justin Gentry. And yeah, you can go, we can just Google those, follow, rate, support, whatever you feel like doing. It is a very funny time to be a podcaster. We, uh, on, on September 3rd, I would just like to know, we recorded a podcast that we called, is it okay to like wish that bad people would die? And then a week later, Charlie Kirk was, um, no longer with us, I'll say. And so, uh, yeah, it's, it's weird. And we were talking about Trump the entire time.

We're like, what a Trump's dead right now. Oh, right. That was a thing that was happening. Like a week later, like, oh, man, our production schedule is wild. Yeah, just like that Etsy or the, that, was it Jezabelle article? It was much like the Etsy witches. Yeah. God bless them or whatever.

Yeah. Yeah, so that's where you can generally find me. I'm around if you want to find me. Mm-hmm. Hell yeah. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? I did want to share something that I really appreciated because I don't think I've, I don't think I've ever told this story on here.

But Conrad Hackett is on Blue Sky and was like, has anything great happened in your life because of social media? And I was like, actually. So how my partner and I met was that we kept running into each other on Twitter during the 2020 protests in Portland because we were both so deeply committed to cyberbullying the mayor, Ted Wheeler. And so every time he would tweet, we would be in his mentions being like, you fucking fees of shit. Not really. We were a little more articulate than that. Sure, sure, sure. But yeah. So I was like, oh, actually like, yeah, social media has, I mean, I'm not saying social media on the net is good. I don't think that we can make that case. But hey, sometimes you, sometimes you meet the love of your life. Cyberbullying the mayor of Portland during the 2020 protests. And that's cool. And that's also something that you guys have in common with Donald Trump. So that's cool. Oh, he met Melania on Twitter. No, cyberbullying the mayor of Portland. My brain went the complete wrong direction. I'm like, you met Melania on Twitter.

No, funny story about how I met Melania that we might find out more about if they ever released those Epstein documents. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. You can find me talking about 90-day fiancé on 420-day fiancé. work in media like

it's just because you know the mischaracterizations of all these cities that are quote unquote war ravaged or war zones or burning pits of hell you know you were talking earlier

to worry about like just the people coming up in character costumes and just antagonizing just to cops just by dancing there's a great clip from Carlkeentania. combesky.com.

It just said hashtag war ravaged Portland and it's a dinosaur suit guy, a unicorn and a raccoon, and maybe a bear. And they're just dancing. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. In the presence of ice.

Just having a little dance party. That's what it is, man. Just like in L.A., it was mariachi bands and stuff and people playing instruments and hanging out. It isn't. But I think it's always, I think, I think that one thing that I think listeners especially can tell people because this always happens, you, like,

I was on the phone for the customer service person who's in Texas, and they're like, oh, you're in Los like, how is it over there? For real? Yeah, like recently? Yeah, like two weeks ago. And I was like, it's fine. It's fine. And then I had to, and I spent, I was trying to cancel my motherfucking cable, okay?

And I ended up taking this lady on a 20-minute fucking, like, de-radicalization talk about being like, well, think about what you're watching. And I'm telling you, like, I'm like, where are you at? She's like, I'm in Dallas. And I'm like, imagine if. one block in Dallas, like a car was on fire. Would you know about that, like, would that disrupt your entire life, the entire flow of life in your city?

And she's like, oh, no, I mean, Dallas is so big, you know. It's like, it's really spread out. And I was like, right. So L.A. is like that. And she's like, but the cars are on fire. I'm like, that was just the same shot over and over again. She's like, it was, I thought it looked like the same car. And I was like, yeah.

And because they want, they want everybody to think that this place is so much worse off than it is. all over the country. She's like, wow, you know, the TV, they just want you to believe stuff a lot of the times. And I'm like, yeah, I know. Well, I'm glad we talked. And she's like, yeah, okay, thank you for letting me know. Uh, so, you know, whenever people start saying that shit, getting that momentum going about like, well, you know, these places are shitholes. They're, like, get real for a second. You know what I mean? Like, you know, if life was so bad that we need help like that. Usually it's just in regards to police violence. Yeah. And we make that no, you know, in our cities. Like, when those kinds of threats are supposed to us. And believe me, the mayors love that. to ask for help when that shit happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. They love to bring in the National Guard. Yep, they'd love to, but not this time. Not this time.

Work of media, I've been enjoying a dear self at Dear Me 2 underscore tweeted grow. And then a picture of a note that said, scariest place to be is the same place as last year. Grow, underline, underline. And Boots with the furry, retweeted that and said, this hits extra hard if you were in a haunted house one year ago. it's true as fuck now you can find me on Twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find me on blue sky

at jack obi the number one you can find us on Twitter and blue sky at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram you can go to the episode look at the description down there at the bottom you will see the footnotes which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy.

Miles, is there a song that you think that people might enjoy? Yeah, yeah. This is from the group Cruza, C-R-U-Z-A. The track, it's fitting. It's called Super Anxious. You know, but the track bangs. It's sort of like a trippy, psychedelic R&B kind of pop track. And it's nice because we were just talking about how, like,

mainstream rap is just kind of becoming more and more homogenous and, like, it's like, the same sort of instrumentals and beats you here. and so it's nice to hear things be done differently or experimentally. So yes, Cruza with Super Anxious is great, so check it out. We'll look off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zykeyes is a production of IHeartRadio

for more podcasts from IHartRadio Visit, the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you list to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye.

The Daily Zykeyes is executive produced by Catherine Law. Co-produced by Bay Wang. Co-produced by Victor Wright. Co-written by J.M. McNabb. Edited and engineered by Justin Conner. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years. Until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up.

Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season, ad free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Jonathan Goldstein, and on the new season of heavyweight. And so I pointed the gun at him and said, this isn't a joke. A man who robbed a bank when he was 14 years old. And a centenarian rediscovers a love lost 80 years ago. How can a 101-year-old woman fall in love again?

Listen to heavyweight on the I-heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with the one, the only, Cardi B. My marriage, I felt the love dying. I was crying every day. I felt in the deepest depression that I had ever had. This shit was not given to me. I worked my ass off for me.

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted. Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While KindBody did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally, like, in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

This is an IHeart podcast. Thank you.