The Daily Zeitgeist - Razzies = Pyramid Scheme, George Santos = Hannah Montana 01.25.23

Episode Date: January 25, 2023

In episode 1408, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, actor, producer and host of Ridiculous History and Stuff They Don't Want You to Know, Ben Bowlin, to discuss… The Doomsday Clock Is Now 90 Seconds From Midnight... Which Means Nothing, George Tony Devolder Stark Santos Was on Hannah Montana Also Assassinated Maybe, Oscar Nominations Are Full of Snubs, The Razzies Are A Pyramid Scheme--Not An Awards Show and more! The Doomsday Clock Is Now 90 Seconds From Midnight... Which Means Nothing Doomsday Clock moved to just two minutes to 'apocalypse' George Tony Devolder Stark Santos Was on Hannah Montana Also Assassinated Maybe AN AVALANCHE OF FIBS Oscar Nominations Are Full of Snubs The Oscar best picture nominees just made history. Surprisingly, it’s for their box office Oscar nominations 2023: Where are the female directors? Oscars Snubs & Surprises: Tom Cruise, Viola Davis, Taylor Swift, David Bowie & Women Directors Spurned Taylor Swift, Viola Davis, James Cameron and More Snubbed by Oscars 2023 Nominations ‘Masterpiece of a film’: why is every A-lister trying to get To Leslie an Oscar? Ana De Armas, RRR And 4 More Oscar Shocks That Just Shook Up The Awards Race The Razzies Are A Pyramid Scheme--Not An Awards Show Razzies announce nominations led by ‘Blonde’ Razzie Awards 2023: Jared Leto, Tom Hanks Up for Worst Performances Razzies Slammed for Nominating 12-Year-Old ‘Firestarter’ Star: ‘They Crossed a Line’ GET THE Stuff They Don't Want You to Know BOOK HERE! LISTEN: Bamba by Fragments Of The MindSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 272 episode 3 of their daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it's wednesday january 25th 2023 you know what that is i do it's burns supper day you know it's about robert burns the famous scottish poet get your haggis the lines are long there you go uh also national irish coffee day we were just talking about irish pubs a ago. It's also National Opposite Day, National Library Shelfie Day, and National Florida Day. But what's a Shelfie Day? Is that where you take a

picture in the stacks or something? Yeah, some collectors of books arrange it. Oh, so it's just taking... It says, look, if you're a bibliophile, flex up on your shelf and take a picture. Let people know you fuck with books. Man, I really... I love the Irish coffee.

We were just talking about Irish pubs. We were talking about handicap. Official, like mainstream culture appreciation of functional alcoholism. Yes. Yes. Irish coffee day is great. Yeah. Functional according to who is the question.

Let's see. It's just, yeah, get yourself a strong cup of Irish coffee, they say. Yeah. That's when you put whiskey in your coffee, right? Oh, yeah. Liam Neeson style. I think we just call it a Neeson now. A Neeson.

Yeah. Nice. I think we just call it a Neeson now. A Neeson. Yeah. Nice. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, a.k.a. Petite T's O'Brien. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!

I'm wearing champions, my friends. Yeah, you are. And they are supporting my rear end. I'm wearing champions. I'm wearing champions. No time for rumors. Cause I'm wearing champions. On the pod. All right. because I'm wearing champions ranka on the pod. Alright, shout out

to CWGVO on the Discord. You heard our confusion in the trending episode where I forgot my name and I had to look at my underwear and turns out my name's champion. Your name is champion. Anyway, so thank you. I love that. Great AKA and we're thrilled to be joined

once again by a writer who's one of the best podcast hosts, EPs, doing it. You know him from Stuff They Don't Want You to Know, Ridiculous History, The New Limited Series, Let's Start a Coup. Please welcome Ben Bowling! Hey, Ben! Oh, my gosh. Back again. Happy New Year, guys. We haven't talked in a minute.

Yeah. I saw you had my colleagues, Matt Frederick and Noel Brown, over at the very end of 2022. How'd that go? To be honest, not good. Yeah. Yeah. It was a bit of a shit show, I think is what we called it. Real bust.

Yeah. We were like, we expected some level of professionalism based on ben's appearances here and man i think i don't know what was going on i think noel was like i think he was like tuning a guitar i think he got a concert to go to he was just very distracted very distracted he's a busy guy also i i gotta you know, to the Zeit do stuff in the dark without, without, without, you know,

without, without, uh, the, the visual element. And I, I asked him about it and he was like, I don't know.

I wonder if I weirded miles and Jack out. Has he heard this show? The people we've had on before? Well, all to say, I stand on the shoulders of giants. Absolutely. I'm really happy to hear that 2023 is off to a good start. It's got the new car smell still. Which is actually a half-drank LaCroix that you left in the cup holder overnight.

My bad. Yeah. It's okay. And his underrated actually made a huge impact on me, which is why I've been doing the podcast ever since blindfolded. Just, you know, trying to heighten my senses. Yeah.

Just, I feel like it adds something. Yeah, just an extra layer of complexity in the edit because half the time he's like, yeah, I'm recording, but he has a blindfold on. And we're like, oh, just put the blindfold on after you start recording. All podcasters are daredevil. That's right. Yeah, exactly.

APAD. All podcasters are daredevil. APAD includes me. All right. Well, Ben, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. We're talking about the doomsday clock. Now, 90 seconds from midnight, which means nothing.

We're now approaching midnight! What does that even mean? Yeah, we'll talk about what it means. I mean, it doesn't mean like absolutely nothing. It means that a group of scientists think that it's advantageous for the purposes of messaging around the problems of nuclear proliferation in particular. But I don't know. It doesn't seem super scientific. So we'll talk about what it means. Guess what?

We'll check in. We know we're screwed okay doomsday clock finding yeah for so many reasons we're gonna talk about george santos who was on hannah montana was also uh assassinated almost assassinated but fought it off in like a really sick way with actually like a proprietary version of kung fu that you guys actually don't know about so oh yeah yeah uh santos maga yeah santos maga so it might look like he's just like stumbling around or whatever but what he's doing is actually like what other black belts call like impossible and a miracle of great he he learned from steven se, I believe, was his sensei in terms of like their

main thing is transparency and truthfulness. Yeah, except when it comes to your balding. Then you paint it on thick and sweat it out in your movies. Oh my gosh. The Oscar noms came out. We're going to talk about snubs, baby. We're going to talk about what we're glad to see on there rrr was snubbed in every category apart for bet apart from best original song so that's the one i i care about the other uh headline you're gonna see a lot is that the razzies are out and we're gonna actually take a look at the razzies because it is just it it's shocking. Like you, we were talking about how the doomsday clock is not super rigorous. The Razzies is basically like a club you can join for, you know, $40 and there's just nothing there. It's, it's absolutely absolutely nothing the voting is just anyone who wants to pay them 40

essentially it's a pyramid scheme uh so we'll talk about that plenty more but first ben bolin we do like to ask our guests yeah what is something from your search history i got two i uh i got two i'll just squeeze them in real quick. One, uh, Smedley Butler. Everybody look that up. I know it's a dumb sounding name. Uh, and the guy will great names of history. Yeah. You're having a Smedley Butler who was like secretly one of the most important historical figures. And we just like, let that go.

Well, he's got a shitty name. I mean, that's just the reality. That name rules in my opinion. Are you kidding? Smedley. Sounds name rules, in my opinion. Are you kidding me? Smelly. Sounds like smelly butt. Yeah. Right?

That's how I like to use it. Get out of here, smelly butt. Imagine, like, so where should this story have gone? Like, it's the subject of your let's do a coup. Is that what it's called? Yeah, let's start a coup. Let's start a coup. So back in the 90s.

Way to know what the guest is promoting. What's that thing again? Yeah, about the business plot, right? Yes, sir. Yeah, just so. Back in the 1930s, there were a bunch of, well, life absolutely sucked for most people in the U.S. And there were a few people who were doing well, and they ran a lot of banks and a lot of munitions companies like Remington Arms. It was a different time, folks.

It was a different time when bankers and weapons magnates were able to get much wealthier than the rest of us. Now, it may be difficult to picture here in 2023. Much wealthier than the rest of them. Now, it may be difficult to picture here in 2023, but there's this one guy who's just a hard ass. He's a Marine. He's an absolute pill. He's honestly a real piece of shit. But he had some boundaries. And this cabal of very wealthy people, titans of industry, come to this guy and they say, I don't know this Roosevelt thing.

You know, this new deal. Yeah, it's very red to me. And we want you to lead an army to put the nation on the right track. And this guy, this guy essentially says, nah, I think it's bullshit. And there's a congressional hearing about it in the, I think it's bullshit. And there's a congressional hearing about it in the 30s, and it's covered up. And it's a wild ride. And, oh, buddy, how history repeats.

That's the search history. Well, history repeats if they bury the shit out of the story and, like, don't tell you that, like, the titans of the story and like don't tell you that like the titans of industry the same people who still run our country once tried to have like a fucking military coup like and like become a fascist nation like be like jump on the nazi bandwagon essentially around the same time that that was becoming a thing damn it jack where you? You should have written the press release for the show. That was hard to book, man. No, but the show, I'm excited to listen to the show. I devour everything I can

about about the business plot. The other search history thing. Let's see if I can say it correctly. Anthro, Anthro, Podermic, Bibliopegic. Books bound in human skin.

Wait, what? Yeah. Miles, I'm telling you. Come again, sir? It's a whole thing. I'm telling you, you got to get into this collection. What the fuck? Describe a book bound in humans.

Is it like a skin book? It is a specific term for it this language like man leather yes just so crafted in the finest man leather I know man leather you'd love to see it

what hold on okay where what the fuck I just wanted to find out if it was real I was you guys know when I'm not hanging out with the swells here on TDZ, I'm involved. With the descendants of Smedley Butler? Yeah, I'm involved in all these kind of things. So I wanted to find out for an unrelated thing, whether or not there were any books actually bound in humans' flesh. any books actually bound in humans flesh.

And I, I, uh, I found that this question is so common that there's a stupid, fancy phrase for it in this language. I've got, I've got to imagine like, this feels like the thing that the German language would have a single word for the English language.

Don't like having the two-word phrase built out freaking it up like that you know yeah why well i i didn't oh my god there's like one that said a book bound in the skin of the murderer william burke on display surgeon's hall museum in edinburgh what yeah in the scottish museum yeah yeah i'm super fun at parties you guys That is so fucking weird cause like if In this Wikipedia article they said like there have been Like an analysis of books that were believed to be Bound in human skin they said of the 31 out of 50 books

18 have been confirmed as Human 13 have been animal leather Which is still gross Why would you do that But also like to know that you could also If like someone was really like yo that's that you could also, if, like, someone was really new, like, yo, that's that skin, right? And you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, the leather still also kind of passes the eye test to the point that they had to, like, go deeper to analyze it, which also freaks me the fuck out. Great. I can only imagine what kind of fucked up... I should have saved that one for when I'm back in October or something, but yeah. Weird stuff.

So my search history is screwed up it's the equivalent of a face tattoo that's that's what that's that's what tattoos are in again are they back yeah they're back it's a day-to-day thing it's a little bit like the doomsday clock you just gotta like kind of keep it keep track of oh my god can't wait to talk about that just waiting to jump into that double double dutch style into the face tattoo game hold on this there's a there's a story about this guy who who was like i guess gonna be uh like he had made a deathbed confession in prison and like wanted this book made and he said i want my own skin to be presented to a man like that he once tried to rob and admired for his bravery

and the other to his doctor and then when he died they took his whole back off to make the book jesus wow that's so fucking grim yeah sorry i know i threw us for a loop i love it i mean i know the i know the mind like fires off in weird ways as you're about to die. But like the, the people who are listening to that and being like, uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah. And then actually go through flip them over. Get that back skin while it's fresh.

Take it to the tannery. All right. You heard. Yeah. That's the new face tattoo. You know what I mean? Yeah. What's a,

what's something you think is overrated? Calendars. Calendars. Jack. Uh, Yeah. What's something you think is overrated, Ben? Calendars. Calendars, Jack. It's one of the most ancient technologies of the human species. It's cartoonishly arbitrary. It's a load of bullshit, you know, and everybody just sort of goes along with it because we all have to be on the same page about how, you know, there's a Tuesday and then there's a Wednesday and that's today. And then there's a tomorrow and we can all agree it's Thursday.

And you take the longer view and you realize that people in the past who were not stupid, they were no different from the average person today. the average person today. They were working with the information they had, and they were oftentimes motivated by ideology rather than mathematics. So now we have all this kind of weird bullshit. I got to remember the leap day birthdays. I got to somehow like explain to a kid that there are 12 things we call months. And, you know, you're going to run into a lot of people in the wild who are going to ascribe a personality to you because your parents banged like nine months before that. That's nuts. It's nuts. Everybody accepts it. You guys know I don't like to say things are overrated but the calendars yeah that's

a big swing so what's the what's like yeah i'm gonna be a shark if i was on shark tank i'd say ben i'm sorry i'm out on this one oh you're oh you're a calendar i'm gonna be i'm gonna be mark cuban i'm gonna be mark cuban and entertain a bad idea and go, okay, well, hold on. Now tell me what's, what's like the more math centric argument for like, is you're saying because of like our, you know, pagan and religious calendars that we've had to like mash up over the centuries. Is there like, is there like a, like a scientific calendar that people are like, to be honest, we should be doing, we should be measuring time like this. measuring time like this? It's just not convenient. That's the problem, Miles. Like the current calendrical system, right? The dominant one is the Gregorian calendar. And the older calendars are, the older calendars worth respecting are things like the lunar calendar, right? That's a measurable thing that people could see. The Julian calendar and the Gregorian calendar, when they're all beefed up, they caused a lot of problems. I think it wasn't until the 1700s or so

that the monarchy of the United Kingdom was like, okay, we got to get with the new thing. So everybody, we're just going to lose 11 days. We're just going to collectively fucking skip that week and everyone be cool. So you're, you're not out on calendars in general. You're out on this calendar in particular. I just think,

you know, do better. Right. I just like, I like the anarchy of no calendars, no calendar, just vibes. No,

a couple of days. You're like, what's even a day man what do you mean man i'll see in three vibes okay yeah they were more vague they're like four score seven many moons people were just freestyling yeah that's some goldilocks moment yeah yeah i mean there is interesting stuff about like it was really the advent of train travel that made it so that we had to all agree on what time it was. And before that, it was just like people kind of showed up when they could. Right.

Right. At the second light of February. And like that all sounds like very poetic, but then you realize they're just like trying to keep it intentionally vague. Yeah. Right. Like back then, even then they were like, what the fuck is that? Bro, to keep it intentionally vague. Yeah. Right. Like back then, even then they were like, what the fuck does that mean?

Bro, I'm on the way. Okay. I'll be there at some point. I'm in a fucking carriage being pulled by horses right now. I don't, I can't, there's no fucking signs,

man. I'm like, I'm just like, wait, you want me to ask the horse? Yeah. Hold on. I also like that in this version,

the person who's traveling by horse also has instant communication with the horse. Oh, they're just sending like, they're sending a cavalcade of messenger crows. Yeah. And additionally, just the sickest with smoke signals in the world. Anyway, calendars, overrated calendars.

All right. It remains to be seen. I'm back in on the idea of evaluating our current calendrical system. I think we need some calendar, Ben. That's where I'm at. I'm willing to, like, if there's another way to do it, I'm open. I'm not saying we should do it, but I want to hear that. I want to hear that out loud described, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't have the answers. That's why I don't like saying stuff is overrated, because I feel like I'm just bringing you guys problems. You know what I mean? Now we have to solve, Ben. I mean, you bring us the calendar shit, and now Miles and I have to come up with a new System for organizing days Alright, Jack Timber Jack Timber

Bentover So we'll not do that one Mile Mile Mile We got March To work with as well Write in with your Altern know your alternatives to the

calendrical system ben what is something you think is underrated oh uh specificity of the english language see above the word calendrical when does that come up pretty good actually it is pretty good i like the specificity of it to the earlier statement about the German language just cramming a child, like giving birth while standing in an alleyway, like out of shame. There's a word for that. Yeah. There's a word for that. Like just like the process of like not even laying down to give birth because

you don't want anyone to notice. How come no one finistrates? How come falling out of the window is the finistration? Yeah. I mean, it's always there for, for when it happens. How come no one finistrates? How come falling out a window is the finistration? It's always there for when it happens. I just think it's fun. Also, do not Google

German giving birth in an alleyway by standing up. That's not a way to figure out. That's a good note. I keep my safe search on because I Google some weird shit. Yeah, it's just between you and the NSA, Jack. That's right. He's completely off the scent of the JFK assassination.

We got him all looking up German words. We see it into his brain through these other podcasts. We're good. They have their own doomsday clock for how close I am to the truth about the jfk five seconds boy yeah oh and there's a specific word for it it's like uh jack chronological and direct yeah thank you yeah yeah for sure all right let's take a quick break but wait oh but just to that point though i'm sorry because jack you talk about a feature of the german language which i think does have this specificity and i don't know i feel like we don't have a lot of specificity in the english language like we we use a lot of words from

other languages sometimes to like encapsulate something but we don't have like these kind of like when we do it's like mashup shit you know what i mean or like oh yeah no the english language i feel like is we have we have to use a lot of different words to get at a concept a lot of the time. The English language is a bunch of people freestyling for fucking thousands of years and just going with stuff, you know? Like, someone was like, imagine how weird it is. You know, you're learning English. Sometimes you're close to something. Sometimes something's about to close.

That's fucking confusing and no one's going to fix it. We're all just sort of vibing off that. Anyway, I love it. I feel like I'm still learning this language. That is one of the things that comes up constantly when you have a kid. The calendar, less so in my experience but the spelling and how completely fucking arbitrary it is especially because like my kids are also learning spanish and so spanish just follows rules so it's just like oh yeah that's how you spell that and then

english is yeah it just seems to i before e except you're like what they seem to get distracted like halfway through words sometimes okay okay it's a real fucking i'm gonna level with you english is a colonizer language where we steal a bunch of other words from other people that's why the spelling is all over the place like shampoo is like an like from the indian like an anglo-indian like a hindi word you know i mean like doctors from the philippines an Anglo-Indian, like a Hindi word. You know what I mean? Moon docks is from the Philippines. Yeah, like there's so many things where it's like, what does that mean? It's like, look, we kind of,

once we got our boats up and running, we just started jacking other people's words and ideas. Yeah. Didn't have our best people on it. I do wonder, like do other languages, like is there some sort of like centralized body that is like, no, that's fucking stupid. Another colonizer. France has of centralized body that is like, no, that's fucking stupid.

Another colonizer. France has a national body to just keep their shit buttoned up on language, on the language front. Oh, interesting. It's a true story. Well, I don't know if it's interesting. I don't speak French. I just walk around Paris doing a slight overbite. I look like I say my O's, you know, like, oh, yeah. Like, I look like I say my O's right, you know.

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And we're back and the doomsday clock is back it's now 90 seconds from midnight which is the closest it's ever been set to armageddon in its 76 year history i'm not like here to say and just ignore this shit out of this everyone the people making these decisions are dumb first of all like yes it doesn't sound great. They're horny for the Cold War. I guess the origin of this comes from repentant Manhattan Project

scientists. It was first created in 1947 by repentant Manhattan Project scientists and set at seven minutes until doomsday. The extremely scientific reason for that was because the artist who designed it thought it looked good to my eye. Wow.

Could have started at 2 p.m., bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Could have gave some breathing room, you know. But I guess the thing that it causes the invention of a clock like this is obviously going to be not a moment where they're like, we might need this eventually down the line. Right. So they invented it at a time when they thought this was a problem and they were feeling bad for helping to invent a thing that turns people into shadows. No, no. Burns their shadows permanently into the ground.

Burns their shadows permanently into the ground burns their shadows permanently into the ground and yeah evaporates the rest of them so their their intentions are good though it's it's not as you said kind of a rigorous but they're they're saying look out right yeah look out for what we made they are and they also like in line with the clock propose like they draw up nuanced policies and like fixes and it's just all ignored except for the usa today little colorful chart in the corner that they did with the clock it's like they they've summed up the entire problem of nuclear proliferation to a little us usa today uh color pie chart everyone's just paying attention to that because of course they are because it was designed like it's perfectly shaped to just stick in the american brain yeah oh also i don't think it's helping their case that like a lot when you go to these articles and you click through on like the doomsday clock you know predictions and stuff like that takes you to a website that is also selling a book at the bottom that says the

doomsday clock at 75 all right it's like a full color like coffee table book what's we're in tiktok category now who has time to read well it's broken down into nice little it like what the page that i screen capped here does look like a instagram timeline or you know like it's got all the like your main okay no easily digestible okay no that makes sense yeah easily a way to digest how proliferation of nuclear weapons and geopolitics yeah yeah yeah keep it simple right coming together to end your world oh yeah yeah yeah yeah it's also not that accurate like so during the cuban missile crisis the clock stood still at seven minutes to midnight they were like this shit's overrated and it also just seems to be like so it also just only really

focuses on the prospect of a russia u.s nuclear war so like the reason it is now closer than it's ever been is because of the conflict in ukraine and shit that the west cares about in other words like yeah no there's no uh movement of the clock with all the uh nuclear detonations off of like the vela incident off of you know marsh Islands, which we talked about previously. That shit doesn't move the needle, right? Right. I don't know. Well, I think they were doing those tests

before they became repentant. Those were the tests to make them repentant. Those islands are fucked, man. Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no. What was the first clock then? What was the non-doomsday clock when they were unrepentant? What was their

fucking yay clock? I think it was just high-fiving in the fucking lab or something. Oh, it's one of those obnoxious watches where both hands are like the minute hand and the hour hand are high-fiving each other. I know about the 1980s.

The Mickey Mouse watch? That shit was tight. out and are high-fiving each other. Yeah. Yeah, no, I know about the 1980s. We're doing it, boys. The Mickey Mouse watch? That shit was tight. Yeah. Hey, remember Bobcat Goldthwait wore one in Police Academy, and then he ruined it in the pool. And then he said, he killed Mickey! One of my favorite lines in Police Academy.

Because I watched that for a game. That's funny. I wonder, like, that was my favorite comedy for many years of my life. Oh, Police Academy? 100%. That's like the only good copaganda out there because they're so stupid. You're never like, yeah, I want to be them. Tells the truth about how stupid police are.

Yeah. But not about gay bars. Their depiction of gay bars seems to be slightly off. Was it the Blue Oyster I when they go to was it the blue oyster i think they go to yeah and then that song el bimbo plays which is when they're just waiting for a straight guy to accidentally bumble through the door so they can force him to slow dance with them you know what's funny at my insight to my wedding my mom twisted her ankle when she like like a few days before the wedding and she couldn't move like her shit was busted

so we had to figure out a way to do like a dance that wasn't her standing and shit so i i'm stupid so i did a whole thing where she was seated with a cane and i danced around the cane but to that song el bimbo right and then at the end my mom tossed the cane and we did like some like medicine show shit where like it was like oh shit she got up on her feet and she did some dance moves it was a whole thing but everything was set to the background that's a moment though that's amazing yeah just to show you how much in my fucking skull that's a moment though that's amazing yeah just to show you how much police academy's in my fucking skull that's i'm like that's the best joke song i've ever heard in my life police academy might be coming back anyway you know it depends on the doomsday clock

did the entire debate or the entire act that you and your mom choreographed was it reliant on people knowing police academy no no it's just like oh it's more just stood on its own yeah they're like what is this song like because the whole thing was like i was like going around doing all this like joe fucking bluth shit around my mom like fucking jazz hands and shit so i needed choreography is amazing yeah it was it was it was something else but anyway that's amazing we digress yeah but anyways like the doomsday clock is specifically about you know the possibility that russia is going to nuke the u.s yeah like when 9-11 happened and the u.s was suddenly on a war path that was

going to kill millions of people the clock didn't seem to really oh you know where you where were you on that one dipshit yeah it seems you didn't clock that one oh son of a bitch uh let's talk about george santos yeah all right well uh you know representative in congress george santos tony devolder Stark or whatever his name is who represents Narnia's 4th district I might add, is adding even more shit to his lie pile, and we talked about the lies

of course, we kept track, he lied about his school, he lied about where he worked his fucking job, that he's a wanted criminal apparently in Brazil but it fucking somehow keeps getting better with the kinds of lies that like now like only a nine-year-old would bother telling so yeah last week a lot of his spelling like hold on sorry just real quick are we certain i don't often make fun

of people spelling my spelling's not great are we certain though that he is not a series of six-year-olds in a trench coat because his spelling is on par with my kindergartner oh shit we gotta check his twitter you guys you might yeah you might say it's confirmed he's the first collaborative congress member who is a uh a group of kids that he is the lies and the spelling really are leading me in that direction. He's an anthropodermic pedi-man? It feels like a bunch of kids wrapped in skin pretending to be an adult.

Oh no. This is dark. Oh my god. The darkest direction that a Silence of the Lambs reboot could take is that it's three young children trying to create a skin suit. But anyway. So they can buy.

Yeah, George Santos is, by the way, going to take credit for you guys' film idea. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. So they can buy movie tickets there. We got to run for Congress first. Wait, hold on. We can just get a fake ID. Nah, nah, nah nah nah come on what's going on with this guy though this is still a thing right like i i stop trying to keep us on track right now ben we're doing bits no you're right no but for real thank you uh professional

podcaster here but again we pointed out like a lot of people pointed out that you know the hypocrisy of this gay legislator who is like voting against his own community being like completely anti-drag show when we found out he himself performed in drag multiple times and he denied it at the time he said it was a one-off i'm just gonna play this so you can understand kind of like what how he was handling it when people were like hey we saw those pics of you as kitara in brazil like what's good like are you are we we thought you said drag was bad but you're doing it this is him trying to find a way to like shrug off the reporters to explain why he's just doing his thing i was young and i had fun at a festival sue me for having a life how about the 700 000 was your

mother at the world trade center guys i don't know if you heard the other price said was your mother at the world trade center on 9-11 because that was another thing we talked about he said his mom 9-11 sue me for it i mean i feel like i don't know every time i see reporters hounding someone like this i immediately feel sorry for the person or like i'm like slightly drawn to their side but obviously uh not one year the details do not support that assessment no bro i've been to festivals as well you know and also here's the thing you can own that though nobody yeah the only people it's a problem for are these republicans makes you fucking cool which you knew at one point when you were

bragging about it but this is him basically being caught between uh rock and a fascist party where he's got to be like uh well there's no way i can be like yeah fuck with drag i already made my bed hopping in it with these fucking people so what the fuck am i supposed to do like that would be something if he was like yeah what's the problem with drag he's like but you just voted again never mind sir whatever but when you look at his own wikipedia page that he altered himself in 2011 it tells the exact opposite story it says it shows that a user named anthony devolder which is the name he uses uh a santos alias was writing that quote, that he quote started S T A R T T E D. Uh, his stage life at 17 as N gay nightclub drag queen.

And with that one, several S E V R A L, uh, all caps, gay quote, beauty against the, yeah, it's,

it's a real, it's a real, you weren't going to crack on spelling, Jack. You said you're not going to crack on... No, but his spelling in particular just really reeks of being three six-year-olds trying to come off as an adult online. And using quotes all weird and out of place. Yeah, weird all caps, nightclub drag queen all caps. Which was a single quotation over

stage as well? His stage life. I guess because that's like a specific but it's, I don't, look. He's lying and that's all he knows but I do want to continue because the sort of revisionist history of him has not ended there. No. Again,

people point out his bio which is full of this is from politico which is full of spelling and grammatical errors appears to contain fantastical descriptions of his supposed career in show business it claims that he had a part in disney's hannah montana among other examples i'm sorry what george i mean what you were and what you were amigos too I'm sorry, what, George? Out of Montana. Out of Montana. Out of Montana. Out of Montana. Out of Montana. Out of Montana. I mean, what, you were Amigos too? Is that right?

Oh, my God. Hey, I'm from Atlanta. So you're basically part Amigos. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. We all are. Oh, you're from North Atlanta too?

Because that's where George, wait until he comes out. He's like, yeah, man, straight up North Atlanta. You're like, I'm sorry, what? George, what? I'm sorry, you were on T-shirt too? He said, yeah, I was featured on T-shirt. People don't know that. But again, it doesn't even stop fucking there.

What? This guy went on a Brazilian podcast like right in the early December to claim that he was robbed on Fifth Avenue and also had an assassination attempt made on his life. But he's like very casual in this interview. He's like, no, that's all good.

Fucking try to cap me. I'm good. I'm moving. But wait, Fifth Avenue in the US? Yes. At the intersection of Fifth Avenue and 55th Street, he says he was intercepted by two muggers on Fifth Avenue, 55th Street. The criminals took his watch, his briefcase, and found time to demand that he hand over his shoes as well. This is from this is this is an interview in Portuguese, but it's translated to him saying, quote,

at three in the afternoon, yeah, this happened at three in the afternoon, and before you ask, they weren't black. They were white, as a matter of fact. Oh, wow. Okay. So he decided to put that in there, so. Okay, Quintana. He just saw a time to kill and was like now now imagine they're

white right fucking blew your mind right like how is this not okay so previous to santos there was another guy who was a prominent public figure who was bad at lying that's jesse smollett right and jesse smollett is like he's accidentally doing too much improv. He's like, yeah, and, yeah, and. His motherfucker's just dropping Jussie Smollett's like on the rent, like casually. That's like one 15th of the lies that we've learned about today. He'll drop a Jussie Smollett in the first quarter. There it is.

You know what I mean? That's where he's at with his performances. Mad boosties on that one. By the fourth quarter quarter we don't even know where the fuck we are suddenly we're in amigos video and he's hannah montana and that's the thing is hannah montana i love that i'm glad i got to bring that song back because it has been way too long it's a banger man it's a banger but here's the thing the other like in this there's this article written by one in english it's written in english by one of the people that was there for this brazilian portuguese interview and they're like dude it's the most frustrating fucking interview with this guy he's like not to mention that he

claims he's like fucking robbed in like one of the busiest parts of manhattan when manhattan is one of the most surveilled places there's they can't find a police report yeah they can't find a police report they can't find witnesses he he says like i they can't find a police report. They can't find witnesses. He says, like, I don't know. It's probably somewhere, you know, this kind of stuff. And he also, in that same interview, said that New York City has 300 drag shows in schools per day. That's my favorite lie. Wait, like, like, yes.

Right now, by the end of today, there will have been 300 drag shows across new york city schools right well that's great i mean it's probably a great show you know yeah wow that just 300 a day just dropped yeah but he's he's just taking whatever he was using to lie before where he was like again a child who was claiming to have been in hannah montana and i was robbed they took my famous drag queen and then now he's just using that same like a lying abandon and like back then it wasn't like a thing anybody was believing but then you hook that intent up to the republican Party and he just makes up lies about the things that they want to believe that cities are extremely dangerous and that they are just cramming, just fucking force feeding foie gras style our children with drag entertainment. Yeah. And like he starts lying about it and it's good enough to get you elected

you guys got to interview him yeah you got to have him on i mean imagine the amazing stories i mean i could finesse the fuck out of him i bet yeah you know what i have to tell i heart we set up a whole fake podcast so you can see there's like a feed with shows and we're like oh yeah this week we have so and so so and so that there are like a feed with shows and we're like oh yeah this week we have so and so so and so that there are people like oh we interviewed pele before he passed away oh yeah also rupaul you know like we got every got everybody on here then we'll get him on i don't think i actually i don't think i could handle it i would just be like are you for real man like what is going on george but yeah apparently even these people who tried to interview or when they interviewed him in Brazil,

he had no interest in engaging any of these like lies that he would say just breathlessly. And I think to your point, Jack, that's sort of the momentum I think the Republican Party wants is to have everybody in lockstep just be like a regurgitator of lies, no thought, just like constant don't even worry about like your own dignity at this point yeah but anyway so he's

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things like outcast has a new album but he's a bad liar that's the amazing thing is that he's a bad liar god republicans come all you need to do is lie how the republicans want you to exactly let me tell you about the scourge of biracial people there we go better with no except for me a miss of a misfortunate biracial person i wish i could change things if i could y'all but yeah yeah it's i mean luckily i'm all right i'm all right so we're so we're saying santos is probably not up for an oscar you know what we should we should just fucking ask him i bet he's got a supporting role in something yeah he's probably gonna claim he was Jamie Lee Curtis, actually, in everything, everywhere, all at once. One of these performances at least was inspired by him.

He's like, you know the hot dog thing, those sausage fingers, those long ass fingers? That was me. Yeah. I gave that to Daniel. Or the other Daniel. I forget which Daniel it was, but I told Daniel. But I think just generally, as we talked about before, like the direction that America wants to move, like that, that like the mainstream American culture, like you can tell a stupid lie in the direction of like right wing fascism and like right wing fascist talking points. And it's going to work for you you can

throw a coup that tries to overthrow the government and they will bury that shit if that had been a coup the the business plot in the early 30s if that had been a coup like to try and do a communist overthrow of the u.s government that got as far as it did that like we the heads of the plotters would still be on pikes like in every u.s city and their family members like that they would still there would be museums to that shit yeah there'd be country songs about it and shit yeah all right oscar noms best picture it's a it's a fun category. We got some hits. We got Avatar, The Way of Water, Banshees of Inishiren,

All Quiet on the Western Front, the German film that came out on Netflix. Shout out to my middle school teacher who made me read that book. Yeah, it's a classic of middle school teachers. Shout out to Spark Notes on that one. You just got to live in it for a classic of middle school teachers. Shout out to SparkNotes on that one. You just got to live in it for a second. Elves, which I think is part of the Santa Claus universe.

No, I think that's Elvise. Oh, Elvise. Yeah. Oh, no, Elvis. My brain is refusing to acknowledge that Elvis is in the best picture category. But all right, man, we're in the year of maximalism it's on the list right there next to everything everywhere all at once which deserves to be there the fableman's which I haven't seen tar top gun maverick triangle of sadness which I need to see still that's like kind of the one on this list that I'm I'm like excited to see

and women talking that one seems fucking heavy Which is the title of a film. That's not just some random thing. Jackson. Yeah. Dude, that, have you heard about that film? That one?

I mean, women, women talking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want to see that one too,

for sure. That's Sarah Pauly. Yeah, exactly. Or Sarah Paulson. No, Sarah Pauly. No,

Sarah Pauly. Sarah Pauly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Anyways, there's some snubs the best director category is all dudes right you couldn't even get Sarah Polly in there like you're bothering to nominate women talking for best picture but then you can't even be like and you know might

be one of the best directors too that made one of the best pictures yeah they were like women directing that's too far you know women talking will allow it that's right yeah with the women king which was pretty dope kind of got shut out like there's it didn't get nominated for best picture didn't get nominated for director viola davis was viewed as a front runner for a nomination for the woman King and got snubbed. So that, that one's pretty frustrating. Let me ask a question though,

because you guys are way more plugged into this sort of stuff than I am. Who the fuck is Oscar? Like I, I know there's the Academy Awards. They said it, it look, I think the old myth is that it resembled someone's uncle named Oscar. And that's how that, that name got like put onto the statuette. I think the old myth is that it resembled someone's uncle named Oscar.

And that's how that name got put onto the statuette. I mean, I trust you, but this sounds like some Santos-level stuff. Oh, look it up! Look it up! I believe you. I believe you. But I just like, the Academy Awards, can we say, I knew we were going to talk about this.

There's a lot of great film out there but it feels kind of rigged dare i say like i'm not plugged in they're not i'm not in the producers guild of america or whatever i'm not getting anybody checking in on what i think about a film's merit but like how can you hey hey but they do ask us about the iheart podcast awards now they do they do we are we are iHeart Podcast Awards now. They do. They do. We are involved in some award giving that's all internal, yes. Yeah, we're kind of big. But the thing is, is the Academy Award process,

is it something that you guys would say is fair? Or is it something that's more like changing in the wind of opinion I just don't know I'm clueless on this I think more than I think the one consistent thing that I remember Jack saying early on was like include movies that do well stop looking at it through this narrow lens of

cinema because now this is the first year that we're like oh look at all these blockbusters that are fully part of it but i mean on some level all of these things are easy to influence because for the longest time the criticism was levied against the oscars that they're just copying the golden globes because the golden globes nominations would come out before the oscars and it was informing how those nominations worked and then like they were starting to be like we're actually going to

announce our nominees before the golden globes, like months out. And people were like, what? Just to prove you, like that's not going hand in hand. But I think on some level there's like a, I guess there's like an internal momentum that brings people to say, you know, like that, like how they're voting. But I don't know. I mean, it's, it's, it's a, it's an industry that's like, like rife with parties, fucking gift bags. There's just shit like this all the time to create goodwill for a film. Yeah.

It's an industry award show. It's industry insiders rewarding one another. There's a weird thing this year. I think a lot of people are calling out this movie to Leslie. weird thing this year like i think a lot of people are calling out this movie to leslie and like it got there was this big groundswell on social media of people supporting the lead actress in this movie to leslie and it was like gwyneth paltrow hosted a screening of the film and like it made 27 000 thousand dollars at the box office so like nobody saw it but like all these celebrities suddenly like were on board and like pushing this and i know some i know a good friend of mine who is invested in like best actress

the best actress race like not not professionally but just like cares about that stuff is like yeah she's actually like great like it you, it makes sense that she was nominated, but it does feel kind of suspicious. their friend and that it wasn't like some sort of push from an agency or, you know, some, you know, some agent or like behind the scenes machination, because they want to cast this actress and something in the future, or like somebody is tied to her career in some way that makes it beneficial

for that to happen. But, you know, yeah, I think there's always interesting stories behind the scenes that don't come out for years on. I will say, I always say that they should be nominating movies from five years ago. And I do think that they completely left Nope out of any of the major categories. Yeah, what's going on with that? Nope was amazing.

Yeah, I think that's going to be one of those things where that's one of the movies we remember from this year and that people still talk about and like it's still a Halloween costume like years from now and you know it's but the Oscars miss it because they always miss

because all these people who are assigned to CAA decided to sing the same from the same hymnal suddenly and be like hey man you hear about this Andrea Risebro oh she's the next thing you hear about this Tobias Bluth like it's like what the fuck like you know rest of development is going around being like hey you hear about this guy yeah yeah sounds a little bit like a conspiracy I know it's it's kind of on the nose for me to say stuff like that I mean but there's I mean look at just even like the celebrity crypto thing there's a sordid web of connections with all that fucking nft garbage

that happened and like you're like man it looks like the connective tissue seems to be reese witherspoon's husband right but you know whatever yeah you know rrr i think also the movie that people i i my my theory on that one is that they didn't nominate it because they they were afraid they were jealous of how much of a movie it was so they were just like no we can't can't have people seeing that but we'll we'll see five years from now what what holds up uh i do want to talk real quickly about the Razzies because that continues to be like a major headline. Like this year, they nominated movies like Blonde, The Marilyn Monroe biopic, which also Ana de Armas got nominated in Best Actress category for that. Also Morbius, which, you know, was a bit that people liked to do.

It was a meme. It was a fun meme for a little while. They also nominated a fucking 12-year-old. What? That's not cool. You don't you're supposed to do it

like adults. Go after the fucking adults in their own i'm like this shit like who is that for is it it's just for that like reddit forum where people like hate children because you do ask like well what was the institutional like intent behind ridiculing a 12 year old's performance and of all, they've been doing this for years. They nominated Brooke Shields when she was 13, Macaulay Culkin like three times, Jake Lloyd from Star Wars The Phantom Menace.

He was eight! He was eight at the time. And later revealed that bullying made him... That's traumatic. That's bullying, yeah. There's not really another word for it you know the razzies are complete garbage for a number of reasons uh they published transphobic jokes they repeatedly referred to transformers age of extinction as trannies number four like that so that was like recently and they thought that was like funny and worth putting it

putting out there in a national like a story that they knew was going to get national attention but at least they do the thing the academy won't do which is nominate more black people yeah that's worst actor of the year what the fuck is that like yeah they've given at least 14 acting razzies to black actors where in the same time 13 black actors have revealed received oscars for their work and in the same time so that's cool they seem to really have it out for black actors which is cool of i mean it's like when you look at it all like the hatred of like a boy who was Anakin Skywalker, like racism, like, oh, this really is. It's like the Internet found a way to give awards, basically. Well, so that's exactly what it is.

So you sit back, you're like, all right, what is this like bizarro academy of racist creeps? And it turns out it's anybody like to vote on the Razzies. You just have to pay for an annual membership online which starts as low as 40 and you can also pay 500 and then i'll uh like try and rope in 25 friends into like joining your voting membership it's a pretty big thing yeah yeah and then they pay and then they find 25 friends well i'm assuming you're paying for them, at least on that first one. Right, right, right. But then, yeah, they become your downstream.

And the next year, they're like, hey, really? The Razzies are wondering if you're going to re-up with me to be part of my Razzies team. We're actually having a get-together at my place a little later on. I thought of you because you hate kids and black people. So this is perfect. Yeah. It's like, where did they get their screeners? Like someone's server where they just watch like greeners.

There's it says specifically in the bylaws, there is no requirement to have seen the movie first. Yes. Yes. A time to be alive! Yes. We win. We win.

We win. Holy shit! There's no... The whole thing started out as a joke by one publicist and his friends during an Oscar party, which, by the way, if you know any publicists,

woof. Yeah, that's exactly... Yeah. Where the people who... the sort of hellish origin story I would expect from this. But then it got picked up by CNN and eventually spread around, and for some reason, these publications

still give this shit oxygen when it clearly just needs to be killed. But like... For 40 bucks a year, though, though jack what do you want me to do what's that how much fucking revenue are they like that's the thing like they're like man we got a cash cow a fucking internet hate coin yeah exactly i mean it's it's the perfect award for our time it's so aggressively stupid and like just zero thought put into it and yeah that's about right it's about

right i like how they the founder maureen murphy said that they're like you know we wouldn't have we wouldn't have nominated shelly duvall if we knew how hard she had it on the set of the shining and they nominated shelly duvall for her performance in the shining yeah like one of the great performances wow yeah you know you're dumb as shit but like you're like if you you know the fact the fact that they recognized her performance is better than the academy awards i guess i guess you know the absolute worst reasons yeah so wait what we're saying then is that we could you guys and our producers and me and all of us listening at home, we could fucking hack the Razzies, right? For money. Oh, yeah.

Jeez. That's the way they do it. I mean, it's like, yeah, go ahead. Like, you can try and change some shit, but we're getting 40 bucks every time. I think the most efficient one is to buy five the 500 one because that's 25 votes and the math works out better than buying 25 or dollar memberships so you would have to like do a go fund me or something and then just really drive towards some voting that and now someone who is in the the midst of all this chaotic terrible stuff in the real world in 2023

is like i'm gonna slide my 500 there you know like it's very important to me starvation climate change famine aside yeah let's fix this hold on i'm looking at this. Oh, wow. This art teacher would like new supplies for their classroom. I mean... Nah, fuck the Razzies. Fuck that. We're putting Avatar on the board. Also, Babylon appeared nowhere on the Razzies.

I think they made a mistake. They know better than to touch Police Academy, I hope. That's a great point i bet i wonder if any police academies were nominated for a razzie i feel like that's the sort of thing they would go after no right because they would be jealous that somebody else like wrote those jokes because like those are the sorts of jokes that they seem to prefer like oh interesting i a part of me just thinks like nah that, that's sacred material, man.

Don't talk ill about Police Academy. You know what I mean? Razzies got big for their britches, gentlemen. Police Academy 4 got called out. Ah! Which is a shame because it's clearly the culmination of the franchise. Is that Miami Beach?

Look, I'm not a doctor of Police Academy. That is... Oh, that's citizens on patrol. Citizens on patrol with the hot air balloon on the VHS cover. Yes, sir. I believe back when we had those cartoonish film covers,

when can we go back to that? I know the house party reboot did it. And I was like, I like to see that, that style come back. Police Academy five assignment, Miami beach, the rare two colon double colon movie title.

Police Academy colon 5. Assignment colon. Colon Miami Beach. We need the audience to know what they're getting into. Yes. Guys. Say the producers, right? Well, Ben, as always, pleasure having you on The daily zeitgeist where can people find you follow you all that good stuff yeah you can find me in a burst of creativity calling myself at ben bolin

b-o-w-l-i-n on instagram you can find me uh harassing miles and jack on twitter you can also tune in to shows like stuff they don't want you to know i think i'm contractually required to hold up a book we made a book that's the thing you made a book we made a book and how many pages how many pages yeah oh geez all right let's see um you don't even know four it's four pages but they're very nice uh very very the finest pages many are saying it's some of the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, you know, collector's edition human skin. We don't know. But the the the other place you can hear me with my ride or die friends. You know, you can find Matt Frederick, no brown with me on stuff.

They want to know you can find us on ridiculous history. Most importantly, and I don't know if I'm telling tales out of school. This let's start a coup show it's fucking crazy it's like we made a scary thing a dark comedy if you like the film death of stalin then you are gonna dig this shit and so please check that out before i get fired for being involved with it and And that's my bit. Yeah. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? I got two real quick ones.

I found this one through our pal Robert Evans. A guy named Zane GT Cooper hipped me to this thing that there are AI reproductions of historical figures that you can have a chat with. And they are very not good. It's a damning observation of just the dangers ahead in the world of education. You can see a link I put where this guy talks with an AI representation of Henry Ford and ask him about antisemitism. Oh boy. How's the guy do? Does it pass the test by going,

going Nazi on him? Yeah. You know, deny, right. Avoid. And it's just, you can see other conversations like this

with Ronald Reagan, for instance, a reproduction thereof, reproductions of all these historical problematic figures. I don't think they can do Henry Kissinger yet because that guy is still alive. Still here. Still shitting the bed with us on planet Earth.

How? Anyway, so that's something that I think we should all keep an eye on. Other social media, I really like this overweight, one-armed monkey out of China. It's called Xing Xing. And it lives with this elderly monk. And it's just some eye bleach. know it's weirdly wholesome it's probably propaganda if we're being honest because it is state approved but uh right you know i feel like i'm going through it like those cooking videos i loved on youtube i was like look it's

all whimsical like this is state propaganda i'm like ah man well it's shot beautifully well did they shoot that on the red? That's right. Dude, this exchange, I'm sorry, like with Henry Ford is so fucking weird. Like asking a question like, oh, no, like, I mean, those those comments that were in the Dearborn Independent were wrong and offensive. And I deeply regret them. Then the person asked, but you were famously an anti-Semite. My reputation as an anti-Semite is based on a few isolated incidents. Is that real?

Yeah, yeah. Because I heard that they had an apologetic Hitler because I guess the programming is like, well, we can't be Nazis. Can't lean into it. You can't do Nazis. So Hitler's apologetic. So, yeah.

If we had time, like if we had time on this episode, my ulterior motive was to try to convince you guys to do a staged reading of that conversation with fake Henry Ford, because it it's just. Oh, my God, it's yeah, it is funny because it acts. It's basically if Henry Ford had a PR at a publicist who was alive in 2023. Yeah, that's what it is, because it acts. It's basically if Henry Ford had a PR, had a publicist who was alive in 2023. Yeah, that's what it is. How it reads. It's like it's like, look, we're not trying to deny things. That's bad.

But here's some other context around my terrible view that might help while also saying it. But it bad. It bad. It bad. Mm hmm. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Or work of media? Whatever. i just saw the doomsday clock we're fucking 90 seconds out

i'm ready for the big ride baby as i think uh nicholas cage says in face off but uh some tweets i like you can find me again at miles of gray where you have at symbols first one is from at at dan white tweeted met my girl's parents for the first time last night couldn't have gone worse only goal was to make good first impression and instead i accidentally walked in on her dad going to the bathroom 11 times in two hours uh at rachel millman tweeted when can we turn the tide on all the newer quote unquote museums? Just being selfie slash Instagram photo spots. It sucks so bad, which is so true.

The things that we're calling museums now really don't work. And then at Sim Sima, who got the keys to my BMA, which I believe I'm just going to finish that lyric from that handle. I said, learning that paprika is just dried and crushed red bell peppers was really shocking. Like, I don't know why I thought there was a paprika tree somewhere. What? Consider me shocked as fuck. Oh, cue the more you know rainbow, right? No, not that.

No, we're going to hit. Huh? Yes. There ain't no paprika tree. But also that red pepper, like that just really makes me like paprika much less. Because red pepper, red bell peppers. Yeah, it's just funny too, because like when you look at like, like in a Spanish, like if you buy spices, like, like a Spanish brand, like it's going to have bell peppers on it and be like pimenton. Right.

But we're like paprika. Oh, smoked paprika? Ah. All right. Tweet I've been enjoying. Toler, T-O-L-E-R tweeted, it is my most profound belief that if you hold in diarrhea, it will turn into normal shit after a couple hours.

Like a diamond? Yeah. It just diamonds up. Yeah. This guy's doing his kegels, I guess. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's right.

Hey, you know, powerful, powerful muscle. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked

about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? This is a track that I'm fairly certain is by A$AP Rocky, but I don't know why that on Spotifyify it's the artist is called fragments of the mind and the track is called bomba b-a-m-b-a it's it's this is an asap rocky song i when i from what i've seen on the internet i think this is a leaked track but

like because someone's put it under a different name like it's just been cooking on instagram on spotify and like other streaming uh plays platforms so check this out it's also got a really dope sample from this like senegalese artist this is a really dope track so check this out it's just like it's a sing-songy poppy yeah it's asap afro beats poppy uh it feels like it feels like maybe him you know being with rihanna and then like maybe he did some mushrooms. He's like, you know what? I don't have to talk about mixing the purple drink and the yellow stuff and then call it Pikachu. No.

Yeah. He sounds very sad. He sounds like he read those Rihanna dumped ASAP Rocky rumors and wrote this that day before everyone was like, no, they're fine. They're fine. They're fine. Oh, thank God. Because the thing's like, clip my wings and throw my ring away. Yeah. The lyrics are like, no. they're fine. They're fine. They're fine. Oh, thank God. Because the thing's like, clip my wings and throw my ring away. It's kind of the lyrics.

They're like, no. You all right there, Rocky? That's all right for people to be vulnerable. Yeah, yeah, of course. It's just. There's like, but it's always funny when you see these rappers who start off one way and then they're like, yeah, you know what? Like, I'm fine being a little more vulnerable now.

I'm going to start singing. I'm like, go ahead, Rocky. All right. Well, go check it out in the footnotes. find being a little more vulnerable now. Let's start singing. Go ahead. Rakim? Well, go check it out in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us

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