The Daily Zeitgeist - R&B Predator(s?), More like Bohemian Crap-City 1.8.19

Episode Date: January 8, 2019

In episode 304, Jack and special guest host Laci Mosley are joined by comedian Casey Ley to discuss the R. Kelly docuseries, Cynthoia Brown being granted clemency, the video of Drake bringing an under...age woman on stage, the sonic attacks in Havana, the Golden Globes, Kevin Hart's lack of an apology, motherfucker-like insults from around the world, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Surviving R Kelly: what we can learn from the shocking new series2. Gov. Haslam grants clemency to Cyntoia Brown, to be released Aug. 73. Drake Kisses, Caresses 17-Year-Old Fan Onstage In Newly Surfaced Video4. 'Sonic attack' on US embassy in Havana could have been crickets, say scientists5. The Best and Worst of the Golden Globes6. Where Are Kevin Hart’s Past Apologies? An Investigation7. Kevin Hart Responds to Don Lemon’s Comments Over ‘Ellen’ Interview8. The 9 Most Devastating Insults From Around the World9. WATCH: LA Priest - Oino (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:17 Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 64, Episode 2 of Dare Daily Zeitgeist, the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness using the headlines, box office reports, TV rating, what's trending on Google and social media. It's Tuesday, January 8th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Dr. Jackal and Mr. O'Brien. And I'm thrilled to be joined today by my special guest co-host Lacey Mosley. Hey it's me Lacey Mosley aka my loneliness is killing me and I I must confess I still believe still believe when I'm not with you, I lose my mind. Give me a sign. Scare me, Lacey, one more time. Wow. That was the first AK that was actually a better vocal performance than the original.
Starting point is 00:03:18 That was very... I love Renee. That was wonderful. Thank you so much for being with us. It's so great to see you again. It's so fun having you. Get your hair. You got the glow up going. I'm giving you a Moesha. I'm so much for being with us. It's so great to see you again. Get your hair. You got the glow up going. I'm giving you a Moesha.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I'm giving you Moesha today. It's awesome. It is working very well. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian, Casey Lay. It's live, but hey, thank you. Casey Lay. It's all right. I got that right.
Starting point is 00:03:41 It's all right. Last time. Happy to be here. Yeah, you know what? I deserve credit for that I appreciate it It's been And look
Starting point is 00:03:48 The last time I was supposed to be here I had plane trouble So I didn't show up Yeah So you know what I owe you You own a plane Payback's a bitch
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah yeah yeah I own a plane You're paying for a plane My plane was broken down It can only take off In perfect conditions Because it's a huge piece of shit, but I have a plane.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Okay? That would be great. Like a corner-cutting private jet. It's still a jet, though. It's a hammy, hammy, hammy, hammy, hammy, hammy, hammy down. It's still a fucking plane. Alright, Casey Lai. We're going to get to
Starting point is 00:04:24 know you a little bit better in a moment, first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today we're gonna uh continue to talk about the r kelly series uh and also just you know sex trafficking since that is a related topic unfortunately and uh can't wait the story of Cyntoia Brown, and there's also that Drake thing that is somewhat related. We're also gonna talk about more shit I was right about with the Havana story. We're gonna do a quick look back at the Golden Globes,
Starting point is 00:05:00 the globes, you guys, the night the stars come out to shine. I'm gonna correct myself on the Kevin Hart thing. We're going to talk about just all the shit that the president seems confused about these days. But first, Casey, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I think the most revealing thing that I was just looking at in my search history is that I was looking for WeHo late night dance parties. For those of you who don't know, WeHo is West Hollywood, aka the gayest
Starting point is 00:05:32 place. I have been staying, I've been house sitting on the west side. Usually I live on the east side and I never go out in WeHo. I just think it's probably pretty apt definition of Casey is Googling at like 2.45 a.m. on a Friday night, late night WeHo dance parties.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And there was only Mickeys and it was terrible. So anyway, just letting you know that if you have questions on late night dance places in a lot of Los Angeles, hit me up. Casey, L-E-Y. Live. On Twitter. So you just had a really strong urge to dance? I mean, I was hanging out with friends,
Starting point is 00:06:10 and it was one of those things where I was like, I'm not going to be in WeHo again for a while. Because you live in East Hollywood, and that's just too far away. I mean, I hate to say yes, so I've been staying in Westwood, which is further west than West Hollywood, and I haven't seen friends in a month and a half.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Oh, no. It is crazy. Now, is this a nice house? Because I always hear house sitting. I'm like, I've never had to let anybody sit in my raggedy-ass house. It's just not nice enough to need people to sit in it. Well, this person does better than you, and I have a plane. Well, actually, it's my ex's house that he shares with his new boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Oh, my gosh. Button for punishment. No, no, no. But they're in Europe, and they have my dog that my ex and I used to have. And my ex and I are good. His new boyfriend is 21, but that's an ish. And at least one of us is living that Hollywood lifestyle fantasy that we've always wanted.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Are you there, like, moving shit? That's the biggest thing you can do to fuck with someone. I did that with two of my ex-boyfriends. Yeah, I learned that in a Dane Cook comedy special. You just move shit around. I put his watch in his sock drawer and, like, his remote control between his mattresses. Here's the thing is, like, I know it know it's like a tenuous position because the boyfriend
Starting point is 00:07:25 is a little wary of how close the ex and I still are. My ex and I still are. Well, because he's a child. And I'm sorry. I don't want to talk shit. It sounds like I'm bullying a child, but I'm not. I'm not. He's taller than me. He has abs. He has way more Instagram followers. He's going to be successful
Starting point is 00:07:42 when he grows up one day. I can't believe I'm saying this. This is so mean. I can't believe I'm doing this. No, you're wonderful. Anyway, so I'm there. Apart from these mean things that I'm saying, and actually he is a really nice person, I don't want to not be invited back to hang out with my dog. So I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:07:58 obey the rules. Keep it chill. The only rule was don't have sex in their house while they were gone. Oh, that's mild. It was weird enough to be there already. I was like, I'm not going to bring home boys and be like, oh, cool place. Well, it's actually my actress. Long story.
Starting point is 00:08:12 And this is my dog. Dig in. What is something you think is underrated? So I think I'm just going to go with Golden Globe themes here. And for a show that was nominated for Golden Globes, it's hard to call it underrated, but it struggled to get a new season because of people watching it.
Starting point is 00:08:30 That show is Pose. Okay. FX series Pose about trans gay performers in the, trans queer performers in New York in the 80s. And it is a fascinating show. in the trans queer performers in New York in the 80s. And it is a fascinating show. And it's underrated because no one's watching it. Not enough people are watching it.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Yeah, we're watching it. We're watching it. We are somebodies. We are somebodies for sure. And it's a Ryan Murphy joint. And I feel like the wrong Ryan Murphy joint won awards last night because Pose has, the actors in it are queer and trans and they portray queer
Starting point is 00:09:09 and trans people unlike a lot of other shows. Darren Criss isn't even gay, right? Yeah, that's what I've heard. Also, remember when Transparent came out and they just let it fucking clean up? I mean, and here I love Transparent.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Transparent got problematic at the end because of Jeffrey Tambor, you know, which, like, and which is, which is the issue. But, like,
Starting point is 00:09:32 I do feel like it was that point where it was, the story was good and it was acting and I did kind of have this idea. I was like,
Starting point is 00:09:38 you know, people are allowed to act. You know, it's acting. Yeah. That being said, now knowing how many talented trans,
Starting point is 00:09:44 gay, like, everyone out there is capable of doing these roles. To me, if you're not at least really trying to find someone super talented who owns the experience, it's like on The Crown, Peter Morgan, who directs The Crown, which is my other favorite show. I'm gay, by the way. He's like, a middle-aged woman
Starting point is 00:10:07 needs to play a middle-aged woman because she can bring the experience of a middle-aged woman. That's why he changes the queen. He's going to change the queen every two seasons. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:16 So Olivia Colman is going to play the queen in the coming up seasons. Oh, shit. Where Clara Foy played it before, and I'm super psyched about that because the only person who could play it after Clara Foy is Olivia Colman. I'm super psyched about that because the only person who could play it after Claire Foy is Olivia Colman.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I have a lot to say about all of this. Anyway, long story short, it's a great show. It's emotional and it's super entertaining. If you've seen Paris is Burning, the documentary about ball, drag ball culture in the 80s and 90s in New York, this is what that is about got it and it's glittery fantastic
Starting point is 00:10:47 and super enjoyable and Billy Porter is a national gem and he should have won a Golden Globe oh my gosh he really should have he was amazing
Starting point is 00:10:53 he told me I was cute one time that's all I needed that is the most validation that anybody needs best performance by somebody
Starting point is 00:11:00 who called me cute what is something you think is overrated and I'm going to stick with the Golden Globes and I'm sorry to say I think Bohemian Rhapsody Somebody who called me cute. What is something you think is overrated? And I'm going to stick with the Golden Globes. And I'm sorry to say, I think Bohemian Rhapsody is overrated. And I didn't think this was going to be an issue because it didn't really get the reviews, the good positive reviews.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And so I wasn't worried. It made a lot of money. I'm happy when anything makes money. You know, that's great. Make that money. But the problem was it shouldn't have won the best drama. Put it in the musical category first of all. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:28 I was confused. I had to like check. I was like, oh, they mistakenly put it in the best drama category. Those categories are such trash. Like make up your mind. Seriously. Seriously. Especially the comedy music.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Just we don't throw anything over here category. There's like one like actual musical produced a year now. Yeah. And then you have A Star is Born and which is a drama, sure, but it's also a musical drama. Yeah, it's a musical. And then Bohemian Rhapsody, which is basically just a concert film, like a CGA concert film. Then that's a musical too.
Starting point is 00:12:00 But the issue for me is that as a gay hiv positive man uh working in this uh society to have the icon of queer hiv positive representation whether he was out at the time or not he is like very much associated with it you know that's like it's like making a movie about keith herring without including any of the gay sex or the HIV. Like they allude to all of it a lot. There is there. They treat Freddie's homosexuality as like a curse that brings him down. Right. They treat it as like the thing that ruined Queen, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Right. And I just am like, I just couldn't believe that's the direction they went with the movie. No, I can believe that that's the direction they went with the movie. But I can't believe it's being honored. You know, like this makes us feel better when literally like all the homosexuality that is portrayed in the movie is like passing glances at like dirty cock sucking bars, you know? You know, the good old dirty cock sucking bars.
Starting point is 00:13:00 It's just all like dark temptation, right? And then he ends up. They treat it like it's a heroin addiction or something. And it's not. It's what made his music what it was. It's who made him who he was. It's a part of who he is. And yeah, I know exactly what you mean by that.
Starting point is 00:13:16 And they're like his poor suffering wife. And it's like, sure, but also like that's not the reality of their relationship. They also fucked with the timeline hard. So like it's not that's not the reality of their relationship they also fucked with the timeline hard so like it's not even a true like true story it's like based on
Starting point is 00:13:30 inspired by the life of Queen and then and then fucking the rest of Queen well only two of them I guess John Deacon didn't okay any of
Starting point is 00:13:38 and didn't like sign off on all of it but the but the other two Brian May Brian May and Drummer yeah he they were they were But the other two, Brian May and Drummer,
Starting point is 00:13:51 it seems like they wanted to save the legacy and not make Freddie out to be the fucking flamboyant, proud motherfucker that he was. He was a peacock. He was a peacock. Right. And you saw the peacock part, but you didn't see the things that made him a peacock. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Right. Why he loved peacocks so much. So overrated Bohemian Rhapsody. I mean, Golden Globes, whatever. Yeah. And finally, what's a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Something that people think is true that I know to be false.
Starting point is 00:14:22 What did I write down? Oh, this was the thing. I kind of fucked this up, because I worked on this for something else, but I would say the thing that I think is true that people don't know is that this is related to the queen thing. Princess Diana, no one realized,
Starting point is 00:14:37 but she was a real cool party animal. Really? Yeah. And I know this because she went to a gay bar with Freddie Mercury disguised as a man and I was reading this whole story about the entire thing she just was a cool person who wanted to have fun
Starting point is 00:14:53 and so I don't think it's a myth to be like Princess Diana was like a bitch but I just kind of thought it was crazy that Freddie Mercury took Princess Diana in the late 80s to a gay bar in London, incognito,
Starting point is 00:15:12 and nobody knew who she was. Yeah, Lady Di liked to turn up. Yeah. I like that. And I love that it was like all of these, because Freddie went to all the gay fetish bars. She went to like a gay fetish bar. Oh, so she was like some wild shit.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Let's not even know regular shit. You know, you're like, oh, a gay bar. We can have flirt TV. No, she was at... Everyone thinks fucking Meghan Markle is the coolest princess. No, that's the myth debunked.
Starting point is 00:15:33 It's Princess Diana. She's still the coolest. Meghan Markle, go to a leather bar. Come down to fucking the Eagle in Silver Lake, and then we'll talk about who's the coolest British royal. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:44 All right. Let's get into about who's the coolest British royal. Hell yeah. All right. Let's get into the stories in the zeitgeist. So the R. Kelly series, Lacey, you were saying it concluded over the weekend? Yes, it concluded over the weekend. And this is a docu-series, a six-part docu-series about the victims of his systematic sexual abuse. It's honestly shocking. Obviously, R. Kelly peeing on people
Starting point is 00:16:08 has been in the cultural zeitgeist since Dave Chappelle said this. But I think that we all kind of, because of the media and how it was treated, took his behavior lightly. When I watched this six-part documentary with countless victims, also, no one was paid in this documentary these people came
Starting point is 00:16:26 forward and told their personal business for free and you could say like some people would want fame or recognition but if you watch these women talking you're like no they this is from a different place there was just an earnesty and a sincerity from everyone who was speaking in this documentary and also from the people who were helping this motherfucker get away with these damn crimes. His assistant speaks in this. And I was like, if I was his assistant, I would have been under that little black curtain. My voice would have been talking like this.
Starting point is 00:16:53 She would have never known to watch me. Like, bitch, I'm not about to be out here with my whole face on television telling people that I ate it in bed and this goddamn child molester sicko. Yeah. And it was like very systematic. Oh, absolutely. damn child molester sicko. Yeah. And it was like very systematic, right? Oh, absolutely. So there were some words that kept reappearing that really kind of solidified for me
Starting point is 00:17:10 the truth of this story, which were words like training. Like R. Kelly would tell these girls, he would target them at concerts. He had a whole, first of all, this motherfucker had a whole system now. You know when he, first of all, before I get to the first of all,
Starting point is 00:17:24 all you artists need to stop bringing regular people up on stage get plants like donald trump does at his rallies don't be out here with real motherfucking people on your stage stop doing it it's whack and then don't pee on them exactly don't be on them after donald trump at least pays for it right but like and even the things that we used to joke about like watching this documentary and watching all of these black women it was honestly very cringy for me because black women get the burnt end of the stick so often no one protects us not even our own men sorry i'm still saying it because it's true but y'all can add me on twitter the black men love to fight with me on twitter uh i'll be where i'm always at on my timeline so come catch me catch me on my timeline
Starting point is 00:18:05 but to be honest it was amazing how much he's gotten away with simply because his victims were women of color and also the systems that he had created
Starting point is 00:18:16 that were functioning and have been functioning for 30 plus years at his concerts he would bring the girls on stage and you know sing to them or whatever the fuck
Starting point is 00:18:24 and then instead of letting them go off stage the way they came they always had to go backstage and through the backstage so he could get his people on them and get their numbers and target the ones that he felt like were weak enough to manipulate like he had a whole fucking system this motherfucker was always at the high school i thought that was a joke he was at the high school literally went to high schools hanging Hanging out at high schools. And also the mall, which I will bring up later. But he would go to the mall and he would target young women at the mall as well. Just like incognito or like, I mean, I haven't watched this yet.
Starting point is 00:18:55 So his system is he would walk past and then his henchmen, who some of them, one of them had the decency to cover his goddamn face and mumble his voice. But the other one is out here just kiki-ing and laughing about how he fucking forged some documents for Aaliyah's marriage, making her 18 when she was really 15. That's a story I know. Yeah. And he reflects on it. He was like, yeah, she kind of looked at me like she wanted help. And I guess I should have tried to help her. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I mean. And we all thought. And what's so gross is we thought. Because I remember the Aaliyah thing. I was quite young. But we thought because I remember the Aaliyah thing I was quite young but we were like oh Aaliyah 15 that's kind of old
Starting point is 00:19:31 15 is not old no it's not old to us at the time at the time it's like the Lewinsky thing and she was a beautiful girl they put makeup on her 175 years ago
Starting point is 00:19:41 right and like on the wagon trail right you know that's a different story. A creepy different story. Right. But that's the past. Now it's not okay.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And I feel like that's insane to me. And also just the network. This is what terrifies me and is no longer surprising is in all of these stories, there are, it's not just a predator, especially these predators who get away with it for so long who are famous. It is a network of their supporters
Starting point is 00:20:10 and their enablers and their money people because they're the money train. Yeah, RCA still has R. Kelly signed and I just signed a petition last night to drop him from the record label because he's still making money. And he's still guesting
Starting point is 00:20:22 on songs all over the place. And writing songs. He wrote basically the whole soundtrack to Sparkle. We were talking. Yeah, that's the thing. The last movie I cried to, On a Plane. On a Plane. On your plane.
Starting point is 00:20:35 On your own plane. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I was late. That's why I couldn't make it that last time I was bawling to Sparkle. It's crazy because I think we all thought it was isolated. Like, oh, Aaliyah's beautiful and mature. That's why. This't make it that last time I was bawling to Sparkle. It's crazy because I think we all thought it was isolated. Like, oh, Aaliyah's beautiful and mature. That's why this was just an isolated incident. But it's like he has crafted a system.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Trained kept coming up. That word was very operative in the documentary series of like R. Kelly would tell the girls that he would train them on how to have sex and know, be whatever kind of woman he wanted in captivity. And then eventually his system was so advanced that he had a woman who he had broken down so much that she was the trainer. So she would be incepting these women when they came in and training them on how to behave and how to, you know. So were they living with him? I mean, I got to watch this because I feel uninformed. He has women living with him in several different states. Some would be living in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Some would be living in Chicago. Some would be holed up in hotels in Los Angeles so that when he visited Los Angeles, he would go see those women who were in hotels. And they weren't allowed to leave. They weren't allowed to eat without asking him. They're not allowed to use the bathroom without asking him. He was physically abusing all of these women. I mean, it's-
Starting point is 00:21:42 It's crazy. And they're so- We have to see Monsters in the Mists. Many. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm looking at the all of these women. It's crazy. And there's so many. Monsters in the midst. I'm looking at the cover of her album. Her album, Age Ain't Nothing But a Number. Which this motherfucker told us the whole time. That's also what's crazy. She's in the foreground.
Starting point is 00:21:56 He is leaning against the wall like a pedophile, looking at her like blur. He's like blurry in the background. Leering. Yeah, leering with a vest and no shirt underneath. which i guess was kind of a wave at the time but still but also is very creepy yes he's also told i think a huge argument for r kelly and a reason he's lasted so long as the whole separate the art from the artist but r kelly's art is yeah this. The R in R. Kelly stands for right. He never told us
Starting point is 00:22:28 it stood for Robert. He called himself Uncle R. He called himself the Pied Piper of this R&B shit. The Pied Piper of this R&B shit. Meaning I play my pipe and children follow. He told us this whole time age
Starting point is 00:22:44 ain't nothing but a number. Trapped in a closet. He had women trapped in the closet. Everyone's like, he's gay. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's women trapped in the closet. Don't bring us into this, okay? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yes. No, so he's told us. He's been a monster hiding in plain sight all this time. And because of money, and because also, I think think of society's unwillingness to let go of things that have impacted our lives personally because it feels like if we say mute r kelly then we have to mute every moment that was involved with r kelly we all sang at five years old at least at the black schools we all sang the little um i forget which i'm not trying to be rude that's what oh no we sang sang the positive one that was like,
Starting point is 00:23:26 now I can believe I can fly. Oh, I believe I can fly. It might be I can believe I can fly. There's one little song that I can't remember but as a five year old. I believe I can fly
Starting point is 00:23:31 is a, I'm not even gonna, it's a real heartwarming song written and sung by a monster. Yeah. What's your favorite song written and sung
Starting point is 00:23:41 by a monster? Yeah, Total Monster. There's a lot. There's a lot of songs. There's a lot there's a lot there's a lot well that's what i was gonna say i mean it's like it is it's we um have to accept the fact that if we you know if we start accepting all this which we should it's that we really have to go back and call it out and it's not about separate michael jackson i believe was a predator. You know? I mean, I think he was super fucked up.
Starting point is 00:24:06 You know? And I'm not... He's dead, which is the only thing I feel like that makes it more convenient for all of us. Yeah, it helps. It helps. And he means so much to all of us. And I mean, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:16 It's just... It's hard to... The question is, can you separate the art from the artist? I mean... Not in R. Kelly's case. His music is literally about attacking children. Do you know the song You Are Not Alone that he wrote for Michael Jackson is about a young woman that he got pregnant and then had, like, get an abortion? I did not know that.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Wait, really? Yes. That's fucking awesome. The woman is in the documentary. Like, she chose to have the abortion. It's not like he forced her, but it's about her. Jesus Christ. And this is also a woman that he gave a very almost deadly disease to.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Yeah, it's crazy. But also, now that I think about it, I can do without R. Kelly's music. Yes, you can. You know, what does he have? Feeling on your booty? I don't need to sing Feeling on Your Booty no more. I Can Believe I Can Fly is basic as shit. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:03 It'd be hot and fresh out the kitchen. That's the one that is. It's a hot and fresh out the kitchen. God damn. It's a good one. That's a tough one to let go, but I think we have to. Listen, I can. There's so many other songs about cars, thanks to heterosexual men. Thinking that that is an amazing metaphor. For a woman that they just thought of.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Ignition. So the key goes in the... The key is the penis. But we need a new place to go after the after party because we can't go to the hotel lobby anymore. Damn, we sure can't. We have to find a new place. And we were talking about Omarion came out
Starting point is 00:25:34 and was saying that he wasn't going to perform any more of the songs that R. Kelly had written for B2K because that's the other thing R. Kelly wrote for a lot of very popular musicians. Listen, B2K is coming back out. All right, all right, all right, all right. I'm selling B2K starter packs for y'all out there, okay? Eco Styler Gel, Apple Bottom Jeans,
Starting point is 00:25:52 Boots with the Furs, okay? Oh, I didn't remember that song. That was a good song. So we can go to the B2K concert, but R. Kelly wrote Bum, Bum, Bum. I'm gonna have to Bum, Bum that off my playlist. I actually, I'm gonna need to go through and I just wanna find out all songs written by R. Kelly so I can but that's the thing can you
Starting point is 00:26:08 can you if it if it wasn't like him performing it you know he's writing him and if it's not about um peeing on people and uh locking them in a way like if like if it's about I don't know that's I guess it's all he sings about right so it's just crazy that it's about, I don't know, I guess that's all he sings about. Right. It's just crazy that it's taken us 30 years to cancel him with all the information that's come out. But I mean, Cosby, you know, I mean, Cosby was more intertwined in our hearts and in our lives and in media and culture,
Starting point is 00:26:40 and that just happened. But it did happen, you know? And that's another guy who had all these enablers. And the last thing I have to say about this is directed especially at people who believe that the attack of R. Kelly has to do with his race is that this is not a race issue, okay?
Starting point is 00:26:55 I'm sorry. Creeps are creeps and I don't give a fuck if they're black and I know it's harder for black people but listen, black folks shouldn't be out here trying to bolster up creeps simply because they're African American and y'all need to quit that shit yeah thank you and i think your point about you know the race of his victims having something to do with the fact that the culture
Starting point is 00:27:15 was able to overlook it for so long is probably the more apt absolutely and just one more call back brian singer helped direct fucking bohemian Rhapsody so it's a gay problem too and let's not whitewash that part and also another reason why we should just cancel Bohemian Rhapsody okay
Starting point is 00:27:31 alright we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.
Starting point is 00:28:03 A podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:29:42 All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session, 24 hours. BPM 110, 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people.
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Starting point is 00:30:35 And I'm Amber Ruffin, a better Lacey Lamar. Boo. Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with Season 2 of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. You thought you had fun last season? Well, you were right. And you should tune in today for new fun segments like Sister Court and listening to Lacey's steamy DMs. We've got new and exciting guests like Michael Beach.
Starting point is 00:30:59 That's my husband. Daphne Spring. Daniel Thrasher. Peppermint. Morgan J. and more. You got to watch us. No, you mean you have to listen to us. I mean, you can still watch us, but you got to listen.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Like, if you're watching us, you have to tell us. Like, if you're out the window, you have to say, hey, I'm watching you outside of the window. Just, you know what? Listen to the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And unfortunately, this is going to be a bit of a theme across the first half of our episode. So, I mean, not unfortunately in the respect that Cyntoia Brown, who was serving a life sentence for
Starting point is 00:31:53 murdering a man who was paying to have sex with her when she was 16, was just granted clemency, which a lot of people were pushing for for a long time. She was a victim of human trafficking. And when she was first convicted, they just didn't take into account that she was underage, that she was being sexually abused, that she was a victim of human trafficking. And human trafficking is actually, it's between a $10 billion and $ 32 billion dollar worldwide industry which to put that in
Starting point is 00:32:26 perspective 10 billion is four times the entire burger king chain and 83 percent of sex trafficking incidents in the u.s involved victims that were u.s citizens it's estimated that right now 300,000 kids are in that situation by the fbi and you know the the FBI freed in June of 2014, they freed 168 kids who had been sold into sex slavery since 2008, at least 4,000 kids. So it's a problem that I think just in general, we don't like to look at it, whether it's R. Kelly or, you know, uh, just somebody in our, in our city. And I think it's one of those things that we tend to hope that when we see somebody in a really unfortunate circumstance, that it's not as bad as we might
Starting point is 00:33:19 think, or it's, you know, that, that they did something to deserve that or some shit like that. And it's just, you know, there are victims all around us and more of them than we might think. Thanks for bringing me on to a super light show. Thank you. You're welcome. I think this is something that I'm going to say and I'm just, whatever. People want to fuck kids. And it's something that we don't say and i'm just whatever people want to fuck kids and it's a and
Starting point is 00:33:45 it's something that that we don't talk we don't talk about sex as a society and as a result of that we allow these um systems of bad unhealthy uh exploitative sex to exist and that's a very basic understanding of it but um like i don't want to defend Roseanne Barr too much, but she used to talk a lot about how Hollywood is full of pedophiles. And it becomes clearer and clearer that that is real. And it becomes clearer and clearer that that's real throughout society. And so it's a crazy thing to say, but it's real. And we need to talk about weird stuff more openly as a society. I don't think that's going to happen,
Starting point is 00:34:25 but like, like that's why like this secret industry of $10 billion, you know, we could open up the government with half that. Okay. And, um, it's a lot of fucking money.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And, and I, you know, I don't, I don't really have anything intelligent to say beyond like, like people are, humans are, are crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:43 And, and, and kids are, kids are often, you know, the ones who are dealing with the things that fucked up adults do. Yeah, I mean, I think you're absolutely right. I mean, honestly, also speaking of crazy. Shout out to Kim K. She put a lot of her celebrity behind Centoya Brown and behind the publicity behind you know what essentially freed this black woman
Starting point is 00:35:07 this is the second black woman that Kim Kardashian has helped get out of jail and I just I can't say nothing about her ass no more I might have to go out
Starting point is 00:35:13 and get some of this KKW beauty god damn bitch listen I used to be like oh Kim K got that butt from us listen you earned
Starting point is 00:35:20 that booty child okay thank you so much and I'm thinking about there's a woman who used sex to her advantage openly and unashamedly. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:29 And now is doing good things with the benefits she's reaped. And everyone wants to call her a slut. Yeah, but she's doing social good work. Oh, yeah, and I never called her that. Yeah, but people did. I know. I'm very happy to see a woman get paid
Starting point is 00:35:42 from some damn sex shit. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. It's honorable to give out your pussy for free. But sex, you want some coins on that nice thing, and then it's a problem? And let's be real. Look, who hasn't? I don't know you guys that well, but I for sure have sent my fair share of questionablely accepted pictures of various states of undressing things. And as someone who wants to become more famous, thank God for Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton
Starting point is 00:36:07 putting sex out there in the beginning. So when I do become famous and maybe my penis or butthole becomes open onto the public imagination, who cares? Who cares? Okay? But also, shout out to all this news that seems to be putting the subjugation of black women in the forefront. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Because it's really important that we talk about it and that we help change it and help black women so yes there's also the drake thing that broke over the weekend where it's a old video of him at a concert where he's 2010 from 2010 where he is you, kissing and dancing with a girl who he then finds out is 17 and then continues kissing and groping her. And quotes like, oh, you're 17. I don't want to go to jail. I really enjoyed this. I hope that's not bad. I really like the way your breasts feel against my chest. This is the audio.
Starting point is 00:37:04 This is the audio from This is the audio. This is direct audio from that video. Drake, this is not what I thought you meant by sicko mode. Drake, come on now Aubrey. I can't be listening to you if you're gonna be out here touching on little kids. The thing that I wanted to bring up in comparison with R. Kelly is in that documentary they talk about kind of the system that he had. He would go to high schools. We talked about that. He would also go to the mall.
Starting point is 00:37:29 And you know where Drake goes to meet lots of his women? The mall. How does Drake just go to the mall? It's in the same fashion. He goes to the mall, walks around, shops a little bit, and has his entourage give information to specific women that he finds attractive or whatever. i've also been
Starting point is 00:37:46 to drake concert i love drake and i hope that he's not out here touching on his little children but i've been to drake concerts and been asked to go backstage when i was younger and win and nothing bad happened so i was like okay hopefully he's not out here creeping but also that thing with millie bobby brown right so this is out of it i know i'm sorry the the thing with Millie Bobby Brown. Right. So this is... I'm so out of it. I know. I'm sorry. The thing with Millie Bobby Brown is just that he has a very advisory relationship with her where she's like, he always gives me advice on who to date. And we text.
Starting point is 00:38:15 That's called grooming. Right. It's just a weird thing that he was also dating a girl who was close to underage, if not underage, at the time that that news broke. And so on our Looking Forward 2019 Predictions episode that Lacey co-hosted, we talked about, we were like,
Starting point is 00:38:35 we hope that this Drake thing doesn't develop into a full-fledged trend, and then this news breaks a week later. And just for legalistic terms like in certain places 17 is the age of consent for certain things is this a video of non-con is this a video of like aggressive no consensual it's completely what happens at a lot of concerts which is like a fan comes up and i'm sure the girl looked like she would have it was having a good time but it's just that, that is the age of consent.
Starting point is 00:39:06 But I guess, what, nine years ago, Drake's 32 now. He would have been, he was kind of young. He would have been like 23 in that video. And it's like, and look, so far, I don't want to, just because the other two things have been so intense, I don't want to like lump it in. No, and we don't either. I just said I love Drake.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And I really hope that he calms his ass down because I don't, I don't want, look, getting rid of a Drake catalog would actually be very, very hard for me. Yeah, that would be difficult.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And the other thing though is like, if he knows this is out there now and he can't, be like, you know what, maybe I'll leave the 17 year old. 19's acceptable,
Starting point is 00:39:41 you know? Like, if you can't do that, then you got a fucking problem, Jake. Right, exactly. And also, this might have just been a couple of errors in judgment.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I think we all say and do inappropriate things from time to time. This was the thing we were raising our eyebrows at on the Daily Zeitgeist, and it seemed to enter the general Zeitgeist this past weekend with this video. So we at least wanted to bring it up. There's also the Havana thing
Starting point is 00:40:04 that we were talking about a lot on the daily zeitgeist that i thought it was mass hysteria then there was a new yorker article that made me think maybe i was wrong well now scientists have come out and said that the sound that was recorded that was supposedly the sonic attack was actually the indies short-tailed cricket. Wait, really? Yeah. It wasn't Russian meddling with American brains? At least the sound that they got on recording.
Starting point is 00:40:33 And I went back and read the ProPublic article that kind of did a beat-for-beat breakdown of how the story came together and how everybody started reporting this. One of the key factors that made people start thinking something was up was this sound and like so one guy reported that he was like feeling headaches and nausea and uh he did have inner ear damage and so they were like this guy definitely has something and then he went over to somebody else's house and they heard that sound and he was like that's the
Starting point is 00:41:03 sound i've been hearing and then they recorded it and it was a cricket and it was just a cricket that they weren't used to this is the remake the cricket remake right it's just a type of cricket well the guy specifically says in his quote as he's like at first i was just like it's probably we're in a foreign country that i've never been to it's probably like a type of insect i've never heard and yes that was what it was but you just like turned it into this whole and a lot of it is like the Trump administration getting out in front of the story trying to make it a thing because they wanted to blow up the whole Cuba Obama thing and they said it was a bunch of people too and I imagine that like one person says they have symptoms of something and then that could like whatever
Starting point is 00:41:41 that effect is I'm sure that that was part of it as well and some people have like they've looked at their brains and say that there was like concussive damage of some sort strong cricket right brain yeah right brain stuff is also very foggy and we'll see how it develops maybe there was an attack that was going on and then it was like you know everybody's attention was thrown off because of this weird cricket sound. We'll see. But let's move on to the Golden Globes, you guys. We've given it the necessary day to decompress from the Globes.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I think the day after the Globes should be a national holiday, where we just get to, you know. At least in LA. Right, right. A city-wide holiday. That's what people say in the rest of the country after the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:42:28 so I thought it would be really out of touch for me to say that after the Golden Globes. Oh, right. But, so what'd you guys think? Any takeaways? It seemed like it was sort of a light on events, an uneventful, I it was a dry humans put that yeah because they're like there was the actress from this is us potentially calling allison brie
Starting point is 00:42:53 off mic or on like on a hot mic and that was like the main story that came away from it and it turns out she wasn't probably calling it's for sure not true I know the guy who was interviewing so weird brag no but I wish it was true because then it would have been more lit also shout out to Chrissy Metz girl you better absorb this minute cuz I only knew you from you know the girl who was making me cry every goddamn week you know get out here and get you some coins girl get you a commercial going splash some Neutrogena on your faces this show moment but it was dry other than that like they even had to fabricate
Starting point is 00:43:29 that drama by design i am imagining like they just wanted not to stir any pot i mean that i feel i feel that way i mean like the opening you know it was good it was solid and there were some laughs and there were some moments, but it was not like Sandra Oh and Andy Samberg did a super acceptable job, you know? Super acceptable is shade. Yeah, sure. It is. It was just weird.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Everything got spread around. I was upset with some of the awards, but overall it was like I put on a little bit of delay so I could fast forward through the commercials. And in the end, I found myself fast forwarding through the acceptance speeches too too, because I was like, no, I don't care about anything. I don't care what anyone's going to say. It kind of set that tone. And then a shameless brag about a connection to my future second cousin in law once removed, won a Golden Globe last night.
Starting point is 00:44:20 So, Lady Gaga, if you are listening, I know we haven't met yet, but I am. That could have been anybody. I thought you were going to say Regina King. I was like, that many distance. Stephanie Gaga. We're taking her last name, all of us. I don't feel like she was robbed in the acting category because Olivia Colman was the deserved winner of that. She killed it.
Starting point is 00:44:41 It's amazing. It's so good. I never saw it. It's good. Sorry. I saw Emma Stone was in it it and I was like, no thanks. And she, in my mind, she's good in this but she is the weakest link of the three main stars in all of that.
Starting point is 00:44:54 But they're all really strong. They're all really strong. Rachel Weisz is so good in it and I feel like she didn't win supporting because they split the ticket on it. But so Lady Gaga, my family member, future family member, she won the best song and she looked amazing like we do in the family.
Starting point is 00:45:11 God. I'm really proud of her. Family resemblance. Your cousin's engaged to her. My second cousin, once removed, is engaged, Christian Carino. He's like a big super agent at CAA. And I couldn't talk about this forever because it was kind of a secret. Family secret secret and so we're all just very excited my mom was
Starting point is 00:45:30 feeling pretty sick yesterday and then she called me and couldn't stop talking about archives and she calls her Steph and I'm like just yeah she knows what she asked more questions about Lady Gaga than she does about my career and all that, and she really shows what her priorities are. I didn't... God, it was just so dry. For people who aren't from Hollywood, I feel like the Golden Globes is good
Starting point is 00:45:58 for making you hate Hollywood, like focusing your hatred. I thought that Jeff Bridges' speech was really a peak moment for that where he like droned on about stuff that occurs to you when you get really high for the first time and then like made life into a tag metaphor where being it means you are like supernaturally blessed by god to have everything go really well in your life. And it's just like a way for him to understand the insanely good fortune.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Like, he's a talented dude. It's like that Beyonce video. I love a lot of his movies, but it's just like... Why did God make me this talented? Right, exactly. Why am I so beautiful? Right. Jeff Bridges got up and did that.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Yeah, just his way of explaining why the universe is cosmically conspiring to make everything awesome and revolve around him. And then you behave as though it does. And then, I don't know, Hollywood believes you because it's a weird town that's controlled by power brokers. Yeah. And, yeah. And in that role, in the last two years, wasn't it Meryl and Oprah who, like, both, like, boots the house down the entire time?
Starting point is 00:47:04 Right. Yeah. Like, they just brought it up because like they were like we need a white man to come up here yeah
Starting point is 00:47:09 are we resetting was this like Trump's golden glove what else well no it was all about like diversity and nominations like you know
Starting point is 00:47:17 and they drove that home but in the end like winning wise it was like alright Marvelous Miss Maisel I guess gets it again sure sure you know likeous Miss Maisel, I guess, gets it again. Sure, sure. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:26 The Kaminsky Method. The Kaminsky Method gets it. They dug that shit up. I was like, the Kim Cahoot? The what? I was like, which ain't nobody. I had to look it up because I thought it was some kind of scandal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I was like, why didn't Atlanta win? And then I realized Atlanta wasn't even nominated. The Good Place, Barry, both probably were shows that I know people who watch and like. The Comiskey Method just seemed like it was one of those things where it was specifically targeted for the elderly people who vote on this award. My parents loved it and they're in their late 60s. Which I will say is the only thing that I try not to say to old people people Cause I know I'ma be An old ass bitch one day You know I'm out here
Starting point is 00:48:06 With my bejeweled walker and shit And I still wanna be poppin' I still wanna be One of the girls You know what I mean Like at first When I saw Viola Davis Get her box ate
Starting point is 00:48:14 And had to get away with murder I said I don't wanna see My auntie get her box ate Then I thought I'ma be an auntie one day And I'ma be trying To get my box ate on television So I can't
Starting point is 00:48:22 Yeah old people fuck And I'ma be an old Motherfucker fucking Yeah me too So I can't. Yeah, old people fuck. And I'm going to be an old motherfucker fucking. Yeah, me too. So I can't shade too much of the older television and the older actors getting their little dude. Just because I'm like, when I'm old as shit, I hope that somebody will still be trying to, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:35 let me climb on that stage real slow and talk for 30 minutes. Yeah. Well, Carol Burnett was great. Yeah. Yes. That retrospective was awesome green book is sandra oh shout out sandra oh was awesome green book now jack green book i was not
Starting point is 00:48:51 putting that out there as something else that was awesome i was saying that is this year's like white savior right you know every year we need one we need a banger we need one white savior banger and this year it was green book that shit i did not see it i won't see it i'm done seeing slave movies um and i'm done seeing nice white people movies where they we drive around in cars and shit we did that driving miss daisy we seen that and then i'm just like what i i know nothing about this movie but not a single one of the previews have i been like now that's a groundbreaking movie of something right It's just like two, it's like musicians in a car driving around together
Starting point is 00:49:28 and I don't, it's like, that's a podcast or a vlog that's not a fucking award winning movie in my mind. But, you know, maybe I'm missing something. It's just the movie that makes white people feel good. And I get it. White people, now that you have to have some kind of introspection on how horrible you are. We need that.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Y'all need y'all's feel good movie. You need it. What's our part in overcoming racism? Other than being the racists. What's our part? And this is it. How are we the heroes? We were the nice guy in the car.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Nice guys in cars, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Getting coffee. Right. I. Now listen, if I get offered a role to be in one of those you best believe my black ass would be up and they're like
Starting point is 00:50:06 oh Mr. White Man your shoulder is going to me ooh child Mr. White Man okay and I will deny this I will deny this podcast that's so funny yeah
Starting point is 00:50:16 I mean if R. Kelly needs a new singer I mean no I just my career's not where I wanted to be no
Starting point is 00:50:24 I'm just kidding. Sandra Oh was great. Amazing. I feel like a lot of people are seeing her in a new light after her hosting gig. She has been working forever. I know. Sandra Oh been out here pounding this damn pavement. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Decades, honey. She's been in the game. And I did appreciate that shade that she threw at Emma Stone. Yeah. That was great what was that one so she talked about how Asian
Starting point is 00:50:49 before before Crazy Rich Asians how many Asian women had been what was it leading roles yes leading roles
Starting point is 00:50:57 besides Aloha and Ghost in a Shell and then Emma Stone was like I'm sorry from the audience yeah and that was
Starting point is 00:51:04 I mean yeah it's crazy and then I just was reading that I'm sorry from the audience. Yeah. Yeah. And that was a fun. I mean, yeah, it's crazy. And then I just was reading that Scarlett Johansson is playing another like. Scar Jo. Miss raced like character. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Also, Crazy Rich Asians was great. And also, I was going to say that Sandra Oh did a thing.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Ah, fuck it. I forgot it. Sorry. Oh, her parents. That was super adorable. It was so adorable. Yeah. Scarlett Johansson is about to remake uh malcolm x and shit well i'll be i'm gonna go see it i'm gonna go see it because she's good at that she's gonna make some strong choices yeah all right we're gonna take another quick break we'll be right back Defne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered.
Starting point is 00:51:53 There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.
Starting point is 00:52:37 And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
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Starting point is 00:54:20 dangerous about what you're doing they're're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in the prints. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies. When civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back.
Starting point is 00:55:44 And briefly, I wanted to correct myself myself which miles did on yesterday's show but uh just wanted to acknowledge both the point that miles is making uh about so the ellen degeneres kevin hart interview that happened at the end of last week so he did apologize when he was backing out of the Oscar hosting role in a tweet. But during the Ellen interview, he kept referring to the fact that he had already, even before the controversy, he had already dealt with the joke and apologized for that. And I kind of took him at his word that he had done that in the past prior to the controversy. And that doesn't appear to be the case. And there's a really great segment on the Don Lemon show where he addresses why he needs to apologize, like how he can actually you know make amends for his jokes in the past and again he continues to you know kevin hart's response to that segment even was to say we all need to learn and acknowledge that we all need to learn and you know let's try and remember that in 2019 like so again like people are being too mean to him was
Starting point is 00:57:08 his takeaway I've never seen somebody double down on being problematic as hard as Kevin Hart he's done it multiple times with the Cowboys and Indians party just really coming out and just doubling down on being ignorant as fuck and also on this homophobic thing like come on now man
Starting point is 00:57:24 we saw your tweets. Yeah, everybody tweets bad shit. Delete your tweets like a smart person. But also, just apologize. I also didn't like that Ellen DeGeneres came out here trying to be the voice of all gay people. I just thought that that was annoying as fuck.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Girl, please stop. Please stop that. And also, shout out to Don Lemon, who I now call Don Lemon Pepper, which I've told y'all that because he's woke as fuck out here we dragged him for a solid 10 years on Twitter and he finally got his shit together and he's right Kevin Hart doesn't realize that jokes aren't just jokes because people who laugh at these jokes also think it's okay to assault gay people which they do every
Starting point is 00:57:58 single day and they continue to do and we need to take responsibility for that if he was like gay people are like this wonka wonka wonka that wonka. That's a joke that you can be like, you know what, I said a thing. He was like, I'll hit my kid if he's gay. I mean, it's like real funny joke. And that's the issue for me. It's like, if you can't realize that the joke is perpetuating hate against a group of people
Starting point is 00:58:20 and that you can't just apologize for it, then don't host the Oscars or host anything else. I'm not going to go see your movies too. I mean, look, I haven't seen a Kevin Hart movie in a long time. I'm not that worried about it. But I do think that we can get over things that you said as long as you show a little bit of fucking... And it's not that hard.
Starting point is 00:58:41 It's not that hard. Fake it! You're an actor, goddammit! That's the thing that sucks. Yeah. Which is going to be harder to take out of the rotation, Remix to Ignition or Central Intelligence? I do love The Rock. I smell what he's cooking.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. But let's move on. We've talked enough about Kevin Hart over the past two shows. Let's talk about the word motherfucker. Ooh, yeah. Just in honor of the continued outrage over the freshman congresswoman's
Starting point is 00:59:10 calling the president a motherfucker, I wanted to look back at something a writer named Ian Cheeseman wrote for us when I was back at Cracked that reviews the best idiomatic insults around the globe because a lot of attention is being paid to motherfucker as if
Starting point is 00:59:28 it's like an incredible insult and I've always found it to be a little bit wanting because it's not specific about like whose mother the person is fucking and that could be almost like a
Starting point is 00:59:43 compliment like it just means you're having sex with a woman who's had children like i love you too mama tambien right exactly like i love i love my dad and he's a motherfucker so right yeah true that so uh we actually went through other countries and cultures with better insults and i just wanted to run through a couple of them for you guys and get your reactions. So, a few Spanish speaking cultures have suck butter from my ass. Stop!
Starting point is 01:00:10 Oh. I shit on your dead and I shit in your mother. Oh, wow. Oh. Yeah. I would feel uncomfortable saying that one.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Yeah. The sucking butter out of a butthole, is that what it is? Yeah. Sucking butter out of I'll suck butter from my ass.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Oh, you suck butter out of my ass. I got it. As a woman, I feel like too many men would like that if I said that to them. I'm like, sure, anytime. That one would really backfire. But shit in your mother, that's complicated. Shit in your mother will cause infection for sure. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 01:00:41 My dick in your mother's rib cage is an Arab one. Damn. These are all very mother-centric. Yeah. At least it's specific with regard to who is sticking their dick in whose mother. It's very specific, yeah. I love that every region, every culture has a fuck your mom. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Put something in your mom. I think it's because dads are too waifu. Dads in every culture. Everyone's like, fuck your dad. Don't care about your fucking dad. Fuck your dad. But your you know, dads in every culture, you know. Yeah, everyone's like, fuck your dad. Right. Don't care about your fucking dad. Fuck your dad. But your mother, you know.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Your mother's more likely to stick around. Your mother's more likely to have a good relationship with your mom. Yeah. I'm going to go for her. Icelandic culture has grandfather fucker, uncle fucker, and sheep fucker, which are. They respect women. Right. Cool, Iceland.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Cool. While Bulgarians say your mother sucks bears in the forest. That sounds about right. Yeah. That's so good. Your mom is brave, though. That's so good. I'm not just sucking bear dick.
Starting point is 01:01:32 She's just so desperate to suck a dick that she's sucking a bear dick in the forest. Hey, look, mom, you don't have to go to the forest to suck bear dick, okay? Just come on down to the Eagle. You know, blah, blah, blah. So Romanians were the number one on this dude's list with just more like shampoo my dick hair with your saliva, like gross shit. Brush your teeth. My dick will soon be inspecting.
Starting point is 01:01:55 But Serbians have just like the, all right. So they have a particularly brutal, I guess, salutation slash the worst wedding toast ever. May God give you to search for your children with a Geiger counter. And then may your house be alive on CNN. What is a Geiger? It's a radiation detector. So this is a post-nuclear age insult, I would imagine. And that's very Yugoslavian, I would imagine.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you never want your house to be loud on CNN. Is there like a snappy- Unless you live in Times Square. True shit. Is there a snappy- I guess the language and translation
Starting point is 01:02:34 is probably way more slappy in their language. Yes. Now do it in Serbian. Do it in Serbian. My accent is all fucked up, so. That's fair. Yeah, also, I just, the outrage on that is just so hilarious.
Starting point is 01:02:49 And I love her for not backing down, and I love Pelosi for not backing down on it. Just being like, I'm sorry, that's not the language I would use, but have you heard the president's dirty fucking filthy mouth? Right. That motherfucker's a fake fucking mouth?
Starting point is 01:03:00 Right. So, you know, we've got some stars in this new group of members. And it's all lumped in with them being outraged about AOC dancing. It's like, yeah. She's a freshman in Congress. Like, you never see, like, Republicans are hating on her hard. They're scared of her.
Starting point is 01:03:15 They're scared of her. Oh, I'm sorry. This, like, super smart, super brassy, super baby, like a babe. Not that her looks matter, but she's this total package of things. Yeah, but that's the thing. Hollywood for ugly people. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Well, I think that is part of their fear, right? It's like how they're attracted to her and they don't know how to deal with it. Sure. She's got that Obama je ne sais quoi. She does. She's smart, she's easy on the eyes, and she's, you know, woke as fuck.
Starting point is 01:03:45 And she knows how to use Twitter better than I think any. Like she, Chris Saliza, like tweeted some half quote from her and she was like, here it is in context
Starting point is 01:03:55 and just said the rest of the thing she said. And it was like, took everything that he was trying to do out of it. She's good. It's going to be really
Starting point is 01:04:03 interesting to see. Although I will say she got, when she was quoted as, or someone was quoted anonymously as saying that she was going to actively try to remove Hakeem Jeffries, who's one of the new members of leadership,
Starting point is 01:04:15 she attacked Politico for saying that they used anonymous sources as news, and everyone on the liberal side was like, you can't do that, and this is the only thing I'm going to say about it. That's like, whenever there's an anonymous source about trump we're like that's the realest thing in the entire world so it just goes to show you the news media is just like super fucked up and everyone and everyone kind of hates it and i'm just like let's let mueller do his job
Starting point is 01:04:34 impeach the motherfucker and then we done yes yeah and then lastly as we're entering the awards season i talk a lot of shit about the Oscars. I have long said that I think they should give the Oscars out five years afterwards and everybody, Seth Rogen, I guess,
Starting point is 01:04:50 tweeted the same idea and people were like, oh, he's stealing it from you. It's like, no, that's just a good idea. He stole your idea. Yeah, but,
Starting point is 01:04:58 so I do think Oscars get a lot of shit wrong, but there was something that someone tweeted out from Metacritic that is the lowest scoring Oscar Best Picture nominees that I thought is a good illustration of the value of award season in that they kind of give some sort of critical relevance to movies that were otherwise like maybe not appreciated at their time like ghost was a poorly reviewed movie a few good
Starting point is 01:05:28 men was a poorly reviewed movie or just like not well reviewed yeah rain man the sixth sense and then because hayley joe osment right they gave whoopi her backup oscar for ghost because they know they owed her that shit for the color purple so they gave her her leonardo they're like here you go, sis. Sorry we missed you last year. Right. Like Julia Roberts and Erin Brockovich. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Right. Yeah. But those are movies that, I don't know, I assumed were well-reviewed, I think, because they got Oscar recognition, and they're just widely and generally perceived as classics now. Scent of a Woman and Field of Dreams were both kind of poorly reviewed.
Starting point is 01:06:05 They don't really hold up for me, but a lot of people love them. So those are movies that I feel like, I don't know, the Oscars did their job by being like, these are actually good movies, even though critics weren't feeling them. I just get upset when literally the movie that I think is like, whenever there's a movie that's like clearly the best movie in my mind doesn't even get touched or talked about, whenever there's a movie that's clearly the best movie, in my mind, doesn't even get touched or talked about, then I get upset about that. And that movie this year would be First Reformed,
Starting point is 01:06:30 starring Ethan Hawke. Oh, yeah. And yeah, it's an environmental movie that also brings religion into the whole thing. And it is just like, he's so good. And the fact, like, what do you have to do? You know, take your shirt off and dance at a Live Aid concert, and then you can win all the awards,
Starting point is 01:06:47 but you can't do, like, real, like, deep, emotional acting and get an award in this day and age. Right. I mean, you can if you're Daniel Day-Lewis, and you're in a movie that nobody ever wants to see again, but you're good. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Although, Black Lantern was my favorite movie, and it got nominated and didn't win anything. That was my other favorite movie of the year. I mean, Spike. Entertainment-wise. It was slow for me. Oh, really my other favorite movie of the year. I mean, Spike. It was entertainment wise. It was slow for me. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:08 But, you know, I love old Spike. Yeah. I felt like it was like the I, Tonya of this year, like kind of entertaining and very like stylized. And I liked it. It didn't, you know, it might not be the best movie, but it was like one that I really enjoyed. Right. I like the story a lot.
Starting point is 01:07:22 I agree with that. Yeah. There's no, I feel like everything's going to be boring this year because there just aren't any like cool controversial interesting movies like where is the fish fucking where's the you know where's the things that i want to talk about oh you haven't seen vice i didn't like vice as much as it yeah yeah and that yeah i mean that again it was just like the big short with like with a with another monster kind of scenario but christian bill was dick cheney in that i will say right so oh he's a monster yeah he's a monster yeah christian bill a lot of people were surprised that he is not american so yeah i was too i've never heard him speak in his own accent yeah i'd heard it a couple years before when he accepted
Starting point is 01:08:02 some award and i was surprised then. And it seemed like he has gotten more cockney since then. Yeah, that's what everyone said. He's like, thank you so very much, everybody. Gov? May I have some more porridge? Like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:08:15 I feel like everyone drinks at the Golden Globes, so maybe at that point he was a little sauced up. That's a great point because my country, when I started drinking and I started saying
Starting point is 01:08:24 I need more country, I don't sound that way. This is how I point because my country, when I started drinking and I started sounding more country, I don't sound that way. This is how I normally talk. Okay, yo, that's a really good point. Probably. Otherwise, Christian Bale has made it his whole career without ever talking to us. Very true. I don't remember. I never knew he was British. I forgot he was.
Starting point is 01:08:40 I mean, I just think of him always as the boy from Newsies, so I don't know if he's British, but boy, can he sing and dance. Well, guys, this has been and dance. Mm-hmm. Well, guys, this has been so much fun having you here. Casey, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter, Casey L-E-Y, L-I, and on Instagram, Casey W-L-E-Y. I'm sorry, that was backwards.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Casey L-I on Instagram. Just go there. That's all that matters. Right. And then I'll be in San Francisco coming up this week I'll be at the Punchline in San Francisco
Starting point is 01:09:08 Tuesday through Thursday and I will be performing SF Sketch Fest which is the big comedy festival I'm opening for Nico Santos from Crazy Rich Asians and Superstore
Starting point is 01:09:16 at the Marines Memorial Theater this Friday the 11th Casey is an amazing stand up go check him out is there a tweet you've been enjoying? I forgot that I was going to do that. And yeah, sure, I'll just do one of my own.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Oh, yeah, this one's funny to me. Ugly people hate Nancy Pelosi because she's hot. I'll just do that one. I love Nancy Pelosi right now. Hell yeah. Lacey. Ooh, okay. Thank you so much for being a wonderful guest co-host.
Starting point is 01:09:44 So happy to be here. Where can people find you? Okay. Y'all know y'all can find me on the interwebs. Instagram at divalaci, D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I. Also Twitter at divalaci, D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I. Also Venmo, PayPal, Cash App. Y'all know where to find me.
Starting point is 01:10:03 And then my favorite tweet right now this is actually my tweet but it's that if we keep ousting all these male creep musicians, Jackis will be the king of R&B at this rate
Starting point is 01:10:20 he's going to be our king we should all just accept it you can find me on Twitter Jack underscore O'Brien He's going to be our king. We should all just accept it. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple tweets I've been liking. Matt Binder tweeted, so Kaya Jones tweeted,
Starting point is 01:10:35 how would you feel about your child using this bathroom and took a video of a gender neutral restroom that's like zoom in, zoom out, zoom in. It was like real erratic camera work and Matt Binder tweeted, I'd tell them to watch out for the weirdo filming the bathroom outside. Joe Randazzo tweeted that Americans look set that their $11 million earned might be taxed at a higher rate.
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