The Daily Zeitgeist - Red Bull Lied!! All Of Garden Is Cancelled 8.28.19

Episode Date: August 28, 2019

In episode 462, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Dan Ahdoot to discuss the return of Pumpkin Spice Latte, the VMA's with Sebastian Maniscalco, Bret Stephens' meltdown over being called a bedbug, the Jeffrey Epstein hearing, Saudi Arabia's future city and their huge roller coaster, whether Red Bull actually gives you wings, Eva Longoria directing a Flamin' Hot Cheetos movie, #BoycottOliveGarden, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Here's What Starbucks's New Pumpkin Cream Cold Brew Tastes Like, Compared to a PSL2. Watch Comedian Sebastian Maniscalco Open the MTV Video Music Awards by Complaining About Young People3. Bret Stephens Has A Real Bedbug Up His Ass Today4. At the New York Times, Bedbugs5. Bret Stephens goes to MSNBC to comment on the bedbug situation, saying the rhetoric is "dehumanizing and totally unacceptable." He also says that there's a "bad history" of "being analogized to insects that goes back to a lot of totalitarian regimes"6. Jeffrey Epstein’s Victims, Denied a Trial, Vent Their Fury at a Hearing7. Epstein Victims Vent Anger at ‘Coward,’ While His Lawyers Hint at Conspiracy8. Watch: Saudi Arabia to have the 'longest, highest and fastest roller coaster' in the world9. WATCH: NEOM, The Futuristic Mega City Saudi Arabia Is Planning10. Red Bull is paying $10 to Canadians who thought it would actually give them wings11. Eva Longoria To Direct Cheetos Movie ‘Flamin’ Hot’ For Fox Searchlight & Franklin Entertainment12. #BOYCOTTOLIVEGARDEN TRENDS AFTER FALSE TWEET GOES VIRAL; 6 MORE RECENT BOYCOTTS13. Boycott these companies supporting Trump's re-election14. The Politics on Your Plate at Olive Garden15. How a giant restaurant conglomerate teamed up with banks to stiff its workers16. If restaurant servers get a minimum-wage hike, should you still tip 20 percent?17. WATCH: Kate Bollinger - Untitled Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Not Coca-Cola. Not Coca-Cola. And fuck Fox News. Fuck them. I know.Cola. Not Coca-Cola. Didn't he just die? And fuck Fox News. Fuck them. I know. R.I.P. And I am pointing at the sky. Oh, you should have been pointing down.

Yeah. It's Wednesday, August 28th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack O'Brien. Jack O'Brien. The Daily Z's. Jack O'Brien. Jack O'Brien. Jack O'Brien. brian the daily z's jack o'brien jack go jack go brian i've got to be a jack o'brien there we go that's courtesy of hugh dean and i'm thrilled always stick the landing and i'm thrilled to

be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hot takes, fresh baked, fat bowls in my face. Special guests is Zayt Gang, produced by Anna Hosnier. Tuscan rocker, bomb dropper, tic-tac spotter. Trump knocker, footnote locker, myth popper. Fucks, fucks, fuck Fox and Coke motherfuckers. That's it. I just had to get that one out one more time.

There was actually more to that. But, you know, Missy Elliott. Well, that and, again, the power of Christ, or in this case, Missy Elliott, compels me. Power of Missy. Yep. And that, a.k.a., comes to us from Jimmy Spence, at Jimmy underscore Spence. So thank you for that one, for that hot fire. Yeah, yeah.

Wow. She was something else on the BMAs a couple nights ago. Something else, huh? Something else, eh? That Missy Elliott, huh? Oof. I hope that misdemeanor stuff is a joke. I really do.

She seems like a really nice gal. Wait for that to be a stain on her record Something else We're thrilled to be joined In our third seat By the hilarious comedian Dan Adut Hi everyone Hey man

I don't have a song prepared I feel naked here Well you are naked Should I freestyle? I am naked I just wanted to point that out I can freestyle off the dome If you'd like

Okay What do you need a beat for? Give me a beat and a topic. No, one word subject. Give me a suggestion from the audience real quick. Give me an inanimate object. Give me a location. This is UCB Improv.

Improv Rap Battles. Hosted by Eliza Skinner. Thanks for having me, guys. Pineapple. Whoa, what? Pineapple. Oh, shit. Wait, did it take you that long?

He's like, wait, inanimate. What does inanimate object mean? Is pineapple? You also broke the cardinal rule, never food suggestions. I know. It's always pineapple. Always food. It's very frequent, yeah.

Dan. Yo. It's a pleasure having you. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. We are going to have more fire VMA takes like I opened the show with. We're going to talk about Bret Stephens. We're going to talk about the Epstein hearing.

We're going to talk about Red Bull. Eva Longoria's upcoming picture, and the Boycott Olive Garden movement from a few days ago. It's funny when you say the Boycott Olive Garden movement. Yeah, it's a movement. Yeah. It's like the new Occupy Wall Street. Where were you during the Boycott Olive Garden movement?

That's right. 2019. But first, Dan, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, guys, I heard that Michael Solominov, who's this wonderful chef, had this new recipe for smoked beef ribs. And I looked that up. And it's a Yemenite recipe.

And it had a lot of turmeric. Had a lot of cumin. A lot of black pepper. Probably need gloves to season that. Yeah, exactly. Turmeric will stain your skin. Turmeric will stain your skin, guys. It's true. The struggle is real. No one talks about that. All they talk about is the anti-inflammation

properties. Great. They don't tell you you look like a jaundiced uh card dealer it's like yellow orange right yeah it's like yeah yeah it's like and it's not just any yellow it's like an immigrant yellow you know what i mean yeah it's like that you're getting that at ralph's yeah yeah no um get you stopped at the border that's what i looked up i was looking up that recipe are you do you cook a lot i cook a lot i'm gonna smoke some fucking ribs this week. So what kind of smoker are you at? I have a Traeger grill.

Oh, you got a Traeger, man? I got a Traeger, man. Actually, I got a Traeger. This was kind of a crazy story. I do a lot of the cooking. I do a lot of cooking on my Instagram stories. I have a cooking podcast. Green Eggs and Dan.

Green Eggs and Dan. Green Eggs and Dan. We'll talk about that later. But basically, I was doing a lot of cooking videos and I wanted to get a smoker and I reached out to Traeger. I was like, yo, give me a discount. I want to get this $800 smoker and I'll post about it. And they're like, yo, we saw your videos. We like them.

We're sending you a free smoker. They sent me a fucking $2,000. Oh, fuck. Traeger Timberline 850. I can control it. You got the Timberline? I can turn it on from here. $2,000. Oh, fuck. Traeger Timberline 850. I can control it. You got the Timberline? I can turn it on from here. I know, yes.

From my fucking phone. Like, literally, I walk into my house, I clap, and it'll fucking start smoking. I gotta get, I'm actually in the market for a smoker. Do you use that a lot? I will talk to you. I will, I will. Right now, I use it. I use it all the time.

It's fucking awesome. The remote function, though? You know what? I used it last week, actually actually because I had some shit going on and me and my girl went for a hike and I was in the fucking mountains

and I turned the smoker off you're so LA now man you're so LA smoked my ribs from the mountain we went for a hike on Runyon I turned off the smoker

and smoked my Yemenite ribs oh yeah I use a lot of Cajun microwave right now what's that? which is just like the problematic term is a china box wait is Cajun Microwave right now. What's that? Which is just like the problematic term is a China box.

Wait, is Cajun Microwave better? I don't know. It sounds just as racist. On the fucking thing, it says like China box in the most, you already know what font it is. You know what time that font is. It's like fucking might as well be like oriental oven. Chop suey.

But it's basically just, you know, it's like a way you put all Chop suey. But it's basically just, you know, it's like a way you can, you put all of your charcoal on top of like sheet metal and then everything is sort of inside the box. So you can, I've like, I'll cook like a suckling pig or something in there. Get out of here. You're cooking suckling pigs at home? Yeah, yeah. What the fuck?

Cook a pig in there? Yeah. Where do you get one of those? Anywhere. There's a lot of places. Yeah. There's like also pet stores, petting zoos, you know? I feel like pig pets. Yeah. Book a petting zoo zoos. I feel like pig pets are making a move.

They're having a moment. But aren't the people realizing that it turns into a fucking pig at some point? Or does everyone have mini pigs? I think they have the teacups. The teacup pigs. Is that like, are they being abused? I feel like anytime I see a tiny animal, they're like, that couldn't have happened in a nice way.

Yeah. You have to keep them in a box like a bonsai tree. And they only grow to this. You clip their feet off. And then eat them. Yeah. No, they're very cute, very smart pets. One thing I was going to say about the hand cooking

is also watch out for capsaicin. Yeah, yeah. If you're ever cutting up jalapenos without gloves on. Yeah. My wife got those. And I think it was we had been in the ocean that morning just to do another little L.A. brag. Yeah. And then she was cutting up jalapenos.

And it was like her hands were on fire for like a day wait just on her hands yeah or her or she like open really yeah no i don't know if it was still on her hand yeah i mean her hands are covered her hands oh i'm sorry yes there was a terrible degloving accident where all of the skin from her hand was ripped off it is very cool of you to have married a leper that was like very like woke up very 2019 yeah uh What is something you think is overrated? What do I think is overrated? I think pretentious coffee is overrated. Pour over.

Anytime anything is being poured over. I'm a Nespresso basic bitch, which I was very excited that you guys have a Nespresso here in the studio. Don't tell people. We're supposed to be men of the people. I think Nespresso, well, I don't know if it's men of the studio. Don't tell people. We're supposed to be men of the people. I think Nespresso, well,

I don't know if it's men of the people. I think Nespresso is the sugar fish of coffee. That's a reference. Hey, hell yeah. Talk that sugar fish talk. But I think that, yeah,

anytime I'm being told that I can't put milk in my coffee, because it's going to get in the way of the integrity of the bean. Oh.

I'm like, I'm sorry, did I just buy this from you so i'll fucking throw this in the trash right now if i want jizz in it and drink it and they're like okay oh jizz in this coffee man okay sure uh the things we do to make a point yeah i am 100 coffee mate i thinkash. Always. Just garbage creamer. I probably have consumed more coffee mate than anything else. With the possible exception of water. Even then, debatable. Because I catch him in the bathroom with a bottle of coffee

and just slamming it. Leave me alone! And he's like, I don't know, man. Somebody left this in here. Well, Miles, you have the Kirkland coffee over here. Well, here's the thing with me and coffee. I never got into coffee because, as I say all the time, I'm not really sensitive to caffeine.

But this cold brew Kirkland is just like your main lining, just caffeine. So it gives me a little bit of a lift. Yeah, I could imagine Costco isn't putting out subtle coffees. No, definitely not like single origin Ethiopian beans. I just took one of those to the dome as we started this. Yeah, it says it's technically packaged by General Motors. So I don't know what it is, but it works. Also, I like, you know, before this turns into a total food podcast,

sugarfish, man, for people who barely know about sushi yes anyway we'll leave that there it's good man it's fine it's it's here's the thing the best you know what you're gonna get when you go there it's like nespresso man it's not gonna blow your mind but you know the dosage you know exactly what you're gonna get it's you like the packaging i like the flavor it's not pure as sushi it's not fucking... Jiro doesn't dream of it, but it's... No, Jiro has a fucking nightmare about that shit. It's funny because I go... I'm Japanese.

My mom's Japanese. And the first time I took her there... Name drop. Yeah. Location drop. Location drop. Origin story. Basically, when we were there, she was talking shit, A, about the tea because she was like,

no, I'm not fucking with the green tea here a little overly powdered like come on give me some real green tea although you know a lot of places in Japan they'll have powdered green tea wait she was saying this

in oh she was saying about the tea here oh it's sugar fish okay got it and then the rice sometimes the shit is too loose

there they're not properly is what you would say in Japanese like you're not actually packing it right. So sometimes if your fucking chopstick skills are lacking,

that shit will fall apart. It happens to my partner, Her Majesty, all the time. And I'm like... Yeah. Fortunately, my chopstick skills. I hear you, dude. And look, again,

you don't go there. It's definitely not pure sushi. You see the guys in the back making it. They're like line cooks that are like, okay, we're making sushi now? Cool. But it's good. No, but that's what I'm saying.

It's not bad. But then there's a subsection of LA people who are like okay we're making sushi now cool right but it's good no but that's what i'm saying like it's not it's not bad but then there are there's a sect of p there's a subsection of la people who are like it's the best fucking shit no no no no okay it's the mcdonald's for bougie people but it's also like mcdonald's should be like will be the greatest thing that america ever does like that and war right but like it's a you know it it for what it is it does it really well yeah yeah that's like I was just in Japan location boom and the thing that blew my mind the most out of all the food I ate pizza these fuckers are making some pizzas dude which ones you go to I went to a couple of them I did go to pizzala uh-huh that was the one that David Chang goes Which ones did you go to? I went to a couple of them. I did go to Pizzala.

That was the one that David Chang goes to, right? Probably. I don't know. I went to that one, and then I went to Pizzala's apprentice who was like, I'm going to go do my own shit. Right, right, right. And dude, I'm telling you, it's like when Japanese people put their mind to something, it's like when Jiro starts dreaming about pizza, Luigi is fucked.

Yeah. No, it's funny because recently Japan overtook France in the world baking competitions. Like they're out doing the French at making baguettes and croissants now. It's crazy.

Really? And they're like, what the fuck happened? Dude, it's nuts. When they put their minds on something, it's game over. We'll put our mind

to one thing at the cost of our personal happiness and then we'll die alone. Yeah. Shout out to Japan. But you'll have a beautiful croissant

to show for it. Beautiful croissant you've never fucking had. Wait, so what is Japanese pizza? Is it thin crust? No, dude, they're doing Neapolitan. They're doing exactly Neapolitan pizza, but they're making it better than Neapolitans are making it. Okay.

It's crazy. Don't tell them. Do not tell them. But it's funny. There's a great synergy between Japan and Italy, actually. Is there? Because, yeah, a lot of the best Italian food, a lot of amazing

Italian food in Tokyo which has the most Michelin stars of any city on earth. Right. And also, there's just a lot of Japanese people

go to Italy to learn how to chef and things like that, learn how to cook. And they were partners in World War II. Right. Yeah.

The axis of evil. That's true. They were broke. Tremendous. Get your spaghetti, your sushi, and your bratwurst, baby. Yeah, they make amazing brats.

Don't leave Germany out. Also, interesting fact, overlap too. Japan and Germany, their steel is so highly regarded for knives and things. Oh, yeah. Because there's the highest concentration of carbon, I believe, in the steel. Oh. So we do katanas, and the Germans do Zwilling knives. I do think it's funny because all the best, you know, all the best Japanese knife makers

used to make samurai swords. Yeah, exactly. And I always think like that day when they brought in all the rokers, they're like, all right, guys, we're going to pivot now. This whole gunpowder thing is ruining our game. Kind of fucking up. So we're going to be cutting tomatoes now. Yeah.

What is something you think is underrated? Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? I think that like Spotify premium or any of the premium, like paying for music things is highly underrated and you don't realize it until you listen to someone's music and you hear the ads and it just ruins my fucking life. I've not. Oh yeah.

It ruins my life. I couldn't imagine being, once Spotify came out at first, once I remember when Spotify first came out, what was that, like 2011 or some shit? I was like, what the fuck is this? I'm like, I still buy everything in the iTunes store. And then I burn it on a CD, and then I put it away, and then that CD goes bad after eight

years. But then I was like, oh, wait, it's everything I already have, plus everything I'll ever want. And then for 10 bucks a month, fine. But yeah yeah there is non-commercial music when I was at someone's house maybe a year after and they played it

and the whole vibe was interrupted by a fucking CVS commercial this is not how God intended music to be heard I think the first time when I upgraded I was making out with someone and it was like the Drake song was ending and it was like is foot fungus ruining your life and it was like, is foot fungus ruining your life? And I'm like, okay, this is worth $10 a month.

Like, no, this ad is ruining my life. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Okay, I'm going to say a lot of people think that – I'm going to go back to food. Sorry, guys. Yeah, no, I was going to suggest you do that. But I think that people think that anchovies are gross.

Oh, come the fuck on. And I think anchovies are the most underrated, delicious food in the world. And I think a lot of you fuckers don't know that you're eating anchovies when you are. And when you taste something, you're like, wow, this is ridiculously good. Where's that umami coming from? It's fucking anchovies. Get some anchovies, get some fish sauce, throw that shit in everything, and it'll change your life. Now, the anchovies that I've eaten are very salty. It's like concentrated salty.

Exactly. But in general, when you cook it in something, you want to basically just the base, you got your oil going, you put the anchovies in, it'll melt in there. You're not even going to see it. You won't notice it, but you'll sense it. Okay.

Yeah, like any pasta sauce that's really good, it, but you'll sense it. Okay. Yeah. Like any pasta sauce that's really good, there's an anchovy melted in that fire. Yeah. Yeah. When I was... It's the nutmeg of Asia,

if you will. Yeah, maybe. I just bought fresh a whole nutmeg recently because I was like realizing how much I needed. I was making a bolognese sauce and the fresh nutmeg

with a microplane is really the only way to turn that whole thing up. Oh, shit. One thing I will say... Miles, you got some food street cred yes when i was um in florence italy actually i was at this panini place another location drop so well hold on i must say he mentioned anchovies there's a little uh little place for panini uh called uh in florence and they have an anchovy and butter panini that I thought was like everyone

like people were like yo get that over there and I was like I don't know I mean I know it's gonna be good but the idea was a little bit still

kind of off-putting to me had it one of the best things I've ever had butter and anchovy is fantastic also butter and ham see that in Europe a lot

French baby fucking easy dude so good yeah by the way this is the longest it's taken for him to drop that he was in Italy. I'm surprised

he didn't say I was in Firenze. Well, you know, I don't know the company am I around, but yes, Firenze for the initiated. A city full of history. Anyway, sorry. Well, let's talk about other culinary delights because the pumpkin spice

latte is back. And now there's a cold brew version, bitches. And no one gives a fuck. Except for DJ Danil. Yeah. This is basically Monster Energy drink for... Yuppies? Yeah, yuppies.

I guess. Whoa, I never even thought about it like that. Yeah, it's like sugar and caffeine mixed together uh but for basic bitches but tells people it's like this ain't your grandma's coffee it's your grandma's pie right coffee yeah put in the blender and mix with coffee i've never actually had a pumpkin spice latte well you got to try is it really worth how is it i imagine it being way too sweet i'm very sensitive to the sweets. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's going to be way too sweet. Well, that's when you're like,

don't put any, no pumps of sweetener at all in this shit. But already I feel like that mix is sweet on its own. Yeah. Is it delicious though? Like I'm down for fucking. Do you like milkshakes? Gross.

Yes, I do. You like pumpkins? I do. You like the Spice Girls? I do. You like the now defunct adult channel Spice? I do. You like the rapper Spice One?

I don't know him, but I think I would love him. Well, then, yeah, you're going to love this. Great. Yeah, it's like a hot milkshake made of coffee and pumpkins. Ooh. Anyways. And they're making an ice version. You know what?

And that's Dunkin' Donuts, right? It's everywhere. It's global. Oh, is it? Well, Dunkin started early. They kicked off, I think, officially their pumpkin spice latte season early in August. And they didn't patent it.

Well, I think you can't, you know? It's like happiness. How can you put a patent on that? Right. You can't. Yeah, it's not like the polio vaccine. No. But to some, it might be.

That would be funny if they could have patented it, but they didn't for the same reason that Jonas Salk didn't. He was just like, I have to share this with the world. The world must taste the pumpkin spice latte. Wow. Starbucks started it in 2003. Did they? Yeah.

Starbucks is funny because Starbucks, to me, they took the macchiato, which is supposed to be just an espresso with some steamed milk in it, and they turned it into their own drink, which is, it's not like that at all. It's like a big drink. The iced caramel macchiato. I remember that fucked up my whole idea of what a macchiato was. Yeah.

You mean just a sugar drink? How do you just take the name of something and just completely, like, I don't know if it's cultural appropriation or what appropriation that is, but they just like, yeah, we'll take this and just fucking change it. Fuck what you heard. Drink this. Now, every time you go to like a little like Italian cafe and you order a macchiato, they're like, you know, do you want a real macchiato?

Which macchiato do you want? And you're like, the Starbucks kind of thing? Whatever comes with ice cream. Yeah. macchiato you want. And you're like, the Starbucks kind of thing? Whatever comes with ice cream. Yeah, but anyways, I mean, cold brew is extra caffeinated. It's just, you know, they leave cold water

in coffee beans overnight. So we're fans of cold brew. I have a conspiracy theory about it. I think they just take their leftover coffee and put it in the fridge. And they're just like, it's a cold brew. That's iced coffee.

Like a 19th century tavern or something where it's like all the drinks they empty into one barrel. And there's like the all sorts barrel that you can drink from. Was that a thing? I just remember in Gangs of New York, there was a scene like that where I noticed there was a thing that just said all sorts. And like the bar backs were like dumping like half like drank drinks in it and then they're also serving out of it oh really yeah huh i like that there's the legendary shot where you like take the bar uh bar rag bar rag and like squeeze it into the shot glass and that's what wow Someone's fancy. Bar rags. Excuse me.

I used to steal Guinnesses while they settled off of the bar and just drink other people's Guinnesses. I think it's Gini. How did you do that? Because in Ireland, they would pour a bunch of Guinnesses and then have them settling off to the side. So you would just come up and sweat it. Wait, was that just another subtle location drop? Yeah, yeah. Another wow.

Everyone just, let's everyone get their passports out. Okay. Let's do some stamp comparison. Wait, so I feel like that would be like cause for like capital punishment in Ireland. It's like snagging a settling Guinness off a pub counter. Yeah. Better not go.

Irish Zeitgang. I was on a tight budget and. Yeah. Zeitgang in Ireland, let us know. Is that, will you get pounded out for. Oh, I'm sure. I was on a tight budget and liked being drunk. Zyte Gang in Ireland, let us know. Will you get pounded out for stealing somebody's Guinness? Yeah. All right, we're going to take a quick break.

We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price.

Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?

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The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports,

where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys.

I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her.

What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark vs. Angel Reese I know I'll go down in history People are talking about women's basketball Just because of one single game Every great player needs a foil

I ain't really hear them voice I just come here to play basketball every single day And that's what I focus on From college to the pros Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports Angel Reese is a joy to watch She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black.

I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast and we're back and uh so were the vmas as as we opened up discussing. Amazing segue. I always look forward to the VMAs because I'm a young, youthful, hip person.

None of us do. No, none of us do. Yeah. Yeah, I always talk about how I knew I had reached a milestone when the summer before Chris Rock hosted the 99 V 99 vmas i was really looking forward to it all summer i was like oh man this is gonna be awesome and then i that's when i was in college when they happened and i didn't even notice that they happened i was like wow and that's when you got older there goes my childhood you looked at your hands they became wrinkly you're like oh damn um that's right and then i started appreciating the comedy stylings of Jay Leno instead of Chris Rock.

I was going to say Tim Conway in the Dorf video series. We were watching those today. Those are... Fucking Dorf uncle. I know I'm old because when I saw yesterday that the VMAs were trending, I did that thing where it was number one trending. I was like, don't these kids know what's going on in Hong Kong? Right, right, right.

With this being number one. That's why I'm getting old. Every time there's something dumb trending number one, I'm like, but what about... Hold on, there's 900 things. Amazon's burning. Hong Kong and pro-democracy demonstrations. Impeachment.

This Jeffrey Epstein thing is getting Mercury. Or Mercury. Mercury. Mercury. Freddie Mercury. Mercury rising. Mercury. Mercury. Freddie Mercury. Mercury rising. Yeah. Great movie.

Missy Elliott's performance, though, changed all of our minds. When we saw that, we were like, no, this should be trending. Well, here's the thing. Missy Elliott will always put on a good show. So to me, that doesn't change fundamentally what the VMAs are. Okay. I'm sort of like, you put her anywhere. It's just going gonna fucking destroy it. It was objectively better this year

than the highlights I've seen on young people's computers. What are you, a creep at a library? Every year, Sophie's like, come on, look at all these performances. And they're, yeah, I haven't cared about them recently. Normally you're like, who?

Yeah, exactly. And then you're like, oh, Missy. Yeah, Normani's performance was dope. John Travolta managed to get involved. By giving a drag queen. Continues to be comedy gold. Yeah. When you get him high on whatever drugs he's pretending not to take.

High on a new plane of existence, dude. Yeah, dude. He's high on Zunu. Lizzo was amazing. Zunu? Zunu. Zunu. Please.

Zunu just sounds so much amazing. Zinu. Zinu. Zinu. Zinu just sounds so much sillier for some reason. I think probably because I've just heard Zinu a bunch. There is also Shawn Mendes and Camila Cabello are allegedly dating. Jack, those words don't even mean anything to you or me or us. I'm going to pretend. No, I do. I like that Cabello song. Jack, those words don't even mean anything to you or me or us. I'm going to pretend. No, I do.

I like that Havana song. I don't know shit about Shawn Mendes, but they had sort of a whack performance. People aren't feeling them as a couple. And Entertainment Weekly dropped their review of their performance before the VMAs even started. And we're like, it's hot and steamy, and they nailed it. Good job, publicists. No way. Oh, that's amazing. Whatamy and they nailed it. Good job, publicists. No way.

Oh, that's amazing. What about the person who truly stole the show yesterday? Yeah. The host, Sebastian Maniscalco. Hey. Who I did not, I didn't know who he was. And then when I saw that, I was like, huh? I know who he is.

I think he's a great comic. But I mean, him hosting the VMAs just sounds like ludicrous. What's his material like his material is like it's like you've been married for 10 years oh god yeah you're like a little bitter in your marriage but you love your wife and right it works you'll fall in chain i hate my in-laws when i heard that he was hosting the vmas i was like oh somebody must know like they must have seen something of him that i hadn't seen and like right they have some understanding of why this is going to work he's crushing on and then he got up there yeah he got up there

and did like yeah i mean the best was that like slate slate just fucking transcribed it just so you could read it and know on its face what this was like this is the first words he says whoa listen i didn't mean to come out to a cloud of smoke, but backstage, my mother's frying zucchini. What the fuck? It's not really her fault. She's making it for 20,000 people tonight, so we crack the window. Hopefully this will all clear out for the devil's

home opener. Uh-huh. Okay. Was that a joke for Kevin Smith? The fuck was that? Then he goes on. He goes, also, I'm so glad to be here. I've been here a week in New Jersey. I'm from Los Angeles. I don't know why I'm doing this accent, because that's what I feel like. Does he sound was that? Then he goes on. He goes, also, I'm so glad to be here. I've been here a week in New Jersey. I'm from Los Angeles. I don't know why I'm doing this accent because that's what I feel like. Does he sound like that?

Oh, absolutely. But he's from Los Angeles? No, I think he's from the East Coast. Oh, but he resides in LA. Okay, got it. Hey, you know, LA where everybody's riding around in a bird scooter, taking photos of themselves in front of a wall, and everybody with an iPhone apparently is an influencer.

Now, listen. New Jersey doesn't have time for that, all right? Jersey has had one influencer for the past 40 years, and that's Bruce Springsteen, baby! Again, just nailing it when it comes to what teenagers give a shit about. First of all, Miles doing Sebastian is my new favorite thing. Yeah, oh, it's great. I could listen to this forever. I mean, this is great.

Obviously, we have a lot of people from the music industry here tonight. Now, there's a lot of feuds going on with the music business. People throwing shade. I just found out what shade was this week. So with all the shade flying back and forth, coming up with the seating chart for tonight was harder than arranging the tables for my Uncle Luigi's fifth wedding, so I hope everybody's happy over there.

No way. That's literally what he said. Wait, are you sure this is an actual transcript? What if they're fucking around? I think they might be fucking around. I will play this. Wow. All right, we're going to listen.

I didn't mean to come out to a cloud of smoke. Wow, okay. But backstage, my mother's frying zucchini. I was telling you guys before the show, I kind of get it because I got offered a a nice handsome amount of money to last week go to a university and do stand-up right and i'm fucking 41 like i cannot relate to these kids but i was like i'll fucking if someone was like what that was like if someone it's basically like someone's calling you and is like hey um there's a bat like for sebastian they're probably like there's a bag of a hundred thousand dollars um right in new jersey do you want to just go and get it right do you want to cringe your way

through a four hour show out on a stage in front of a bunch of people who are gonna just be saying then he did some bit about like safe spaces and trigger warnings it was like very much like it sounded like he's writing for adam carolla or something right yeah yeah Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I love it. Yeah. Sam Harris hosts the VMAs. Yeah. Right. Hey, Cardi B is not, oh, debate me on it. Try and change my mind. I'm like, what the fuck?

All right. Well, let's talk about other people who shouldn't host the VMAs. I'm fucking crushing these transitions. Fantastic. knows the VMAs. I'm fucking crushing these transitions. Fantastic. Brett Stevens, who is a New York Times columnist who

kind of takes the conservative side of things. Oh, I mean, he's Mr. Fucking PC Culture's Ruining Us. What's the Snowflakery, Safe Space? He's basically what Sebastian Maniscalco likes. They think the same. What's with these trigger warnings and these safe spaces?

The safe space used to be in the bathroom with the lights out before my dad came home. Hello. You know? Anyway, so. Is that a masturbation joke? Hey, I don't know. It's up to you. It's valuable.

Sebastian is going to call you after this and be like, I need to hire you as my head writer. He's like, hold on, man. Miles, you got my tone. You get me. Did you hack my iCloud or something? You looking at my notes? You looking at my notes? You looking at my notes? Did you hack my brain?

Because my synapses are firing. I see these kids, these Gen Z kids. They got no prospects for the future. They're looking at, they're listening to this EDM. What the fuck is that? I call it economic distraction music because they're not paying attention to their futures. Holy fuck. Oh, fuck. not paying attention to their futures holy fuck oh fuck anyway so uh this is sort of what his

whole deal is brad brett stevens back to brett stevens he goes he just to give you an example this is something he said like he was praising the university of chicago because they had a policy that was against having safe spaces or trigger warnings uh for you know students who might have gone through some kind of trauma. First, he's quoting from the committee at University of Chicago. Quote, concerns about civility and mutual respect can never be used as a justification for closing off discussion of ideas, however offensive or disagreeable those ideas may be to some members of our community. Typical right wing sort of free speech shit.

Then goes on. And then this is sort of his commentary. Those are fighting words at a time when professors live in fear of accidentally offending their own students and a governor needs to declare a countrywide state of emergency so that white supremacist Richard Spencer can speak at the University of Florida. They're also necessary words. That isn't because universities need the First Amendment's most loyal guardians. In the case of private universities, the First Amendment generally doesn't apply. They set their own rules. Instead, it's because free speech

is what makes educational excellence possible. So he's always saying like, let the racists talk. They don't care if it's homophobic, it's free speech. So cut to a couple of days ago when there was like the story that came out that the New York Times building

had bed bugs or whatever. This professor at George Washington University, like, quote tweeted, like, the article that said, breaking, there are bedbugs in the NYT newsroom. And then his tweet was, the bedbugs are a metaphor. The bedbugs are Bret Stephens. Okay. That's like not even a Miles-level joke. A Miles doing Sebastian-level joke.

No, not even. You could have done a lot better. That's crickets all day. And I think that thing only got like six likes or something, three retweets. Then suddenly he continued this chain. He said, I just got an email from Brett Stevens, CCing the university provost. He's deeply offended that I called him a metaphorical bedbug. This is his email.

Dear Dr. Karpf, someone just pointed out a tweet you wrote about me calling me a bed bug. I'm often amazed about the things supposedly decent people are prepared to say about other people. People they've never met. On Twitter, I think you've set a new standard. I would welcome the opportunity for you to come to my home, meet my wife and kids, and talk to us for a few

minutes, and then call me a bed bug to my face. That would take some genuine courage and intellectual integrity on your part. I promise to be courteous no matter what you have to say. Maybe it will make you feel better about yourself. Please consider this a standing invitation. You are more than welcome to bring your significant other, cordially, Brett Stevens. Okay.

Miles does Brett Stevens is almost as good as Miles does Sebastian Maniscalco. Then he fucking quit Twitter. He quit Stevens? Quit Twitter. He quit Twitter. He said, time to do what I long ago promised to do. Twitter is a sewer. It brings out the worst in humanity. I sincerely apologize for any part I've played in making it worse.

And to anyone I've heard, thanks to all my followers, but I'm deactivating this account. Wow. Then my man goes on MSNBC and fucking digs the hole even deeper. Listen to how he even portrays this whole situation. What do you have against bedbugs, dude? Holy shit.

I'm going to be careful with my words because I know these are going to be examined carefully. So I think Twitter brings out the worst in its users. It tends to bring out the worst in its users. And yesterday, a professor at George Washington University described me as a bedbug or a metaphorical bedbug, just in the context of the New York Times having a bedbug problem in our building. And I think that kind of rhetoric is dehumanizing and totally acceptable no matter where where it comes from all I would say is that using dehumanizing rhetoric like bedbugs or you know analogizing people to insects is is always wrong all my better we should be the people on social media that we are in real life there's a

bad history of being called being analogized to insects that goes back to a lot of totalitarian regimes in the past i've been called worse i wrote this guy a personal note now it's out there for everyone to see yeah everyone to see how much of a pearl clutching snowflake you are yourself sir right it's so odd this is the classic shit that they do well the right has been talking about the infestation of Mexican immigrants. It's free speech, man. Yeah. Until that shows up on my door. I'm going to jump in here and say I know Bret Stephens.

Do you really? I do. I've had dinner with Bret Stephens. I went to a dinner in New York last year, and he was there. And I sat next to him. He was a great guy guy I can't say a bad thing about him I probably like Brett Stevens a little more than you guys do and I think that he definitely the thing is he must be like searching for like what everyone everything

that people are saying about him right this got on his radar because yeah the guy didn't at him didn't at him at all and it had like like a paltry like to retweet ratio. That's like you went into the search box and put your name in. I don't even think it's a good idea to look at your mentions. Like because that is probably mentally unhealthy. But to actively like be constantly searching your name is. That's just self-harm. Yeah, that's self-harm.

It's very dangerous. And I'm sure that, you know, we get it as well. Because I get like. It's funny. Like if i put like a youtube video or there's a youtube video of me or whatever i'll like just like kind of rush through all the positive stuff yeah one negative thing and i'm like clear my calendar for the week i can't do anything this misspelled comment about but it wasn't even that bad i mean it's like you're in the public eye. Like, these things happen. And then, like, I don't know. I think liking it, that's the... I don't know. I think taking

it to, like, oh, this... He didn't mean totalitarian. He wasn't, like, doing what, like, Nazi cartoonists were doing or anything like that. But why is he even mentioning that in his, like, sort of rationalization as to why this was so offensive to him? I think he... I think you're right. I think he's dug a hole. I think he was caught off guard.

I think he's digging a hole. And I think he's like trying to get out of it. And I think people like that who are like, you know, they debate for a living. Like they're not willing. It's very hard to just say, okay,

I'm sorry. Maybe I overreacted. Yeah. Or just, you know, fucking move on, dude. Right.

But it's, it's like anything. It's like, oh no, XX truck nuts, 420 XX says I'm a hack. But it's funny that it was, that it's true's like anything's like oh no xx truck nuts 420 xx says i'm a hack but it's funny that it was that it's true he definitely is the you know the kind of flag bearer of like let's stop being so sensitive and this to me this being the thing that put him about over the edge

seems it's almost there must be i think there's layers to this right maybe with this professor maybe with his history with bed bugs maybe he was called bedbug in college because he was a stinky kid or something. I don't know. Maybe he had bedbugs. I had bedbugs, guys. I'm going to give you a full disclosure. I've also had bedbugs. I've met Bret Stephens, and I've also had bedbugs.

Thank you for getting it. I got two horses in this. This tweet is really... He's like, actually, can we just cut this out of the episode? I'm really uncomfortable with this. It's home for me. If you've never had bedbugs, you've probably never lived in New York, but it's also just the worst thing ever.

But again, that's a tangent. I think this is ridiculous that this is what kind of set him off. We have bedbugs here in LA too. Really? I forget about the Alexandria Hotel downtown where people got them from just hanging out there. They're everywhere. They're not even staying in there.

And they're spreading. Are they? I just don't know. Do you have to throw all your shit away when you get bed bugs? Yeah. Or is there a way to do it? I think they spread in LA a little more than in New York because in New York, they're just like,

just fucking spray the DDT in your apartment. Right. That's my Sebastian. But here, they're like, we don't use chemicals. We're just going to rub some turmeric on the bed. And smudge. Just get some sage. Get some sage. Smudge your chemicals. We're just going to rub some turmeric on the bed. And smudge. We'll just get some sage. Get some sage.

Smudge your. Yeah. It's going to be great. Well, so the Jeffrey Epstein hearing happened yesterday. I guess it was more of like a public hearing, but it was interesting. I mean, so they had victims speak about you know what they lost and you know you got detail about you know the sexual assaults were they doing it to like his corpse like he was like we're gonna Bernie's right basically that's kind of the vibe like this is what that a Michigan State doctor

like Larry Nassar Larry Nassar had done to him except like he they got to like have the satisfaction of saying it to his face and you know they were talking about there's a big void here like it's cowardly that he you know took the way out that he did and Epstein's defense

attorneys were like actually our client was probably murdered no way yeah they used that they explicitly said yeah i mean they basically said there's a independent medical examination that found that he had broken bones in his neck consistent with more of a homicide and the uh prosecution was like well it doesn't matter whether, like, for the purposes of this hearing. And the judge was like, overruled. I actually think it does have something to do with it.

If this guy was murdered. Right. What do you guys think? It's shady as fuck. It's shady as fuck. It's hard for me to trust what I hear about it because when you look at all the people that could possibly be implicated in this it threatens to disrupt the power structures of this entire world in a way it could definitely bring both sides together i was cheering for that i was like fuck it like let's just get it all out let's fucking raise this thing and start over

i mean like that would ever happen but then there's also a news story that said one of the uh cameras that was right in front of his cell, like they couldn't use footage from it because it was like not good enough for investigative purposes. I don't even know what that means. It says at least one camera station in the hallway outside billionaire financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's prison cell where officials say he hanged himself earlier this month had footage that was deemed unusable. Right. I'm super in general anti-conspiracy theories, but this one is just like, it's hard, dude. Anytime you're like ahead of time, you're like,

man, I bet this is going to happen. And then it happens. It's like, it's, yeah. What did he hang himself with, by the way? Bedsheet. Bedsheet. Yeah. On Suicide Watch, do they normally, I mean.

He wasn't on Suicide Watch. Oh, I thought he was on Suicide Watch. They took him off. Oh, they did? a week after he attempted suicide they're like ah he seemed good he seemed good he seems happy right he was whistling in his cell so he must be good right and it's and then even like just seeing the hit like he should have had a cellmate and he didn't and a lot of the fingers are being pointed at like an overworked prison staff but i'm sure part of that can be by design too to make sure there are like you don't have the people who are as vigilant as they need to be for people who are in this section of the prison. Right.

But they were supposed to check on him every half hour and they were checking on him every they hadn't checked on him in like six hours. Three hours. Three hours. I don't know what i'm gonna need to hear that i will begin to feel that there is some kind of element of truth to this there's a new york times article about his final days where it was like he did seem to be losing steam and like he was really despondent and starting to realize that there was no way out of this yeah but i mean whether or not he actually was the person who ended his life isn't as relevant to me as like but is there a way that they facilitated

that because like it was an easier way to protect other people who he could have like verbalized like no these people i was with and did this stuff with right you know yeah and I mean, I think the way the judge and the defense were talking about this trial, this was sort of one of the last steps. They were like, well, this is a public hearing to get these things out since we won't be able to have the actual hearing. And, but, but it didn't seem like they were like, and now we're going to keep going into this. And the prosecution was like, you need to look into the crimes and prosecute the people who helped him. But it seemed like that was them saying, you know, complaining about a thing that wasn't going to happen as opposed to,

you know, saying that this is something they think is going to happen. Yeah. Well, shit. happen as opposed to you know saying that this is something they think is going to happen um yeah well shit i wonder what sebastian maniscalco has to say that is the question you gotta warm up i'm not as good as you miles you're you're in his brain you some you like brain you summon him you have like a Ouija board I just channel Sebastian you channel Sebastian

well since we don't like to end on Epstein news the world's oh that's not how this podcast works you guys don't do that every episode we don't like to go into a break on that. So I will tell you the world's longest, tallest, and fastest roller coaster with speeds of 155 miles per hour is coming to Saudi Arabia's new Six Flags theme park.

There's a Six Flags in... What? 2023, baby. The Falcon's flight could hit dizzying speeds up to 155 miles per hour. It's going to be the tallest roller coaster in the world. Wasn't it called Bonesaw before that? Was it? Gotta go.

I'm constantly fascinated by Gulf Arabs' desire to outdo the whole world in dumb shit. Right. Like, we are going to make the biggest man-made island in the shape of an R that has ever been seen. That's what I'll make one day. All right. As a shoe. Right. Yeah.

Did you see MBS's plans for building Jurassic Park out of robots? No. Is that what he wants to do? Oh, cool. Yeah, he has a plan for, it's like this lunar like park thing. What do you mean lunar park? I don't know.

It's on the moon? No, but it like has some sort of like space age aspect to it. And Super Producer Ana Hosnia knows. Basically, he's trying to create like a futuristic city that's like a party city. It's like a Dubai times a thousand. Right. Dude I'm telling you. There is an actual plan for it. It's like literally called

Plan Neon or something like that. We talked about it on Ethnically Ambiguous. That's a plug. But yeah it's really crazy and I don't know if they'll be able to do it because it costs like six bajillion dollars or something like that. It's out of control but it'll have yeah like it'll be able to do it because it costs like six bajillion dollars or something like that. It's out of control, but it'll have, yeah,

like it'll be like you're on space and it's gonna be like, I literally think based off the description, it'll be like a giant dome. Right. I don't know. They're literally like 12 year olds who have billions of dollars.

They're like, we're going to do this. We're going to make a, we need dinosaurs. I want dinosaurs. It's like, but your jails are full of journalists. I don't give a fuck. I want dinosaurs.

I want to hang with a raptor. I want to feed the bloggers to the dinosaurs. Sorry. The lunar thing is that it's going to have a fake moon. An extra fake moon. Like orbiting it? I think it's going to have a fake moon, an extra fake moon. Like orbiting it? I think it's going to be. I can't even.

You know what? I'm just going to take everything you say as truth and fact. That's definitely plan B. Initially, he was like, I want to make a real moon, another real moon to put around my Jurassic Park. Like we can't do that. All right, fake moon. Oh, wow. It's called NEOM.

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And Miles, you've written a headline. It says Red Bull doesn't give you wings i don't believe that explain well where do i start there's an energy drink called red bull okay i know that slogan is red bull gives you wings or so we're starting at the beginning yeah from the beginning of time and i believe they're a austrian company or a German company? I believe it's Austrian. Yes. And they sponsor many football teams, soccer clubs, if you will. But yeah, there's apparently, there have been lawsuits about consumers complaining that they didn't actually get wings from this drink.

Not that they believed they would sprout straight up like Archangel type wings, but just the idea that it would enhance your performance or something aside from just get your heart racing. Well, no, it's terrible for you. Yeah. Well, so in 2013, there were Americans consumer, like there was like a class action lawsuit. Red Bull settled for $13 million on the same complaints. I'm like, I don't know if this shit really gets me winged up, homie.

Right. So pass over the fucking money real quick. And now the Canadians want in too. So Canadians, I gang, here's your chance. Apparently. Now this is a, from an article. It says the company has agreed to pay $850,000 after settling a Canadian class action lawsuit filed by Michael Attar in February, 2019.

The case is based on a similar us class action settlement filed in 2013 based on the claim that drinking Red Bull does not give you quote wings or result in improved performance guys we're making money the hard way i know seriously yeah well if you go to i think the website if you're canadian there's like a website you can go to it's like location restricted so use a vpn if you're trying to get your ten dollar check like it's called like energy drink settlement.com or something where you can get your $10 check. It's called energydrinksettlement.com or something, where you can get your money for being wingless. I could see MBS doing this lawsuit.

He'd be like, I drank the Red Bull, no wings. This is bullshit. He starts doing scam lawsuits. He's like, I don't know, this pumpkin spice latte was so hot. It burned me. All right, not a scam lawsuit. The hot coffee burning people. Well, that was, yeah, amazing. I saw that documentary. What do you think? You still think not a scam? I think it's not a scam lawsuit. What? The hot coffee burning people. Well, that was, yeah, amazing. I saw that documentary.

Yeah. What do you think? You still think not a scam? I think it's not a scam. Really? Yeah. Wait, does a documentary make you give room for the scam? The idea that it could have been a scam?

We're talking about the woman who was handed coffee so hot from McDonald's. Yeah. She spilled it on herself. She got, what, third degree burns? Yeah. On her legs? Yeah. You think not a scam?

Very, very bad burns. Yeah. Well, the temperature they gave her to her. burns on her legs? Yeah. You think that's a scam? Very, very bad burns. Yeah, I mean, just in that case, it was just an insane, an incredibly high temperature. Was it that the cup made her drop it, or

she had it in her hand, she dropped it, and then it happened to be hot? I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. Well, inquiring minds, a lot. Yeah, he's like, wait, didn't you represent McDonald's in a similar case? I do feel like Red Bull has too much money for the product that they sell. Like, that's one of the things that makes me suspicious of them. It's like, is this a drug front?

Yeah. Absolutely, I know. Well, like, is it just made of garbage ingredients? Is it a drug front? Because, like, I get that it's popular but like they own so much shit and they have like entire you know extreme music teams music studios tv studios it's like that shouldn't be possible well they you know what they did uh what kind of revenue they pulled in in 2017 what's that 7? $7.39 billion. Jeez.

Billion? Billion. Wait, is it mostly off of the drink or is it off of the other stuff? I'm not sure. I mean, I don't know what they really, they sponsor a lot of stuff. So I'm not sure what people are, like the products they sell are essentially just the drink. Who's drinking Red Bull?

Like, I don't know anyone who drinks it on the regular. Right. People who work raves. Yeah. Like me. Yeah. I used to have to drink's drinking Red Bull? I don't know anyone who drinks it on the regular. People who work raves. Like me. I used to have to drink so much Red Bull. And that's another thing. Red Bull didn't give me fucking wings either. It's only this fucking Kirkland Signature cold brew.

Get your 10 bucks Canadian dollars. A Canadian member of the ZyGang marry me. Just get my paperwork going. Get my $10. I will divorce you amicably. Boom. And we'll go separate ways. And you'll split the money that you made. Split the $10 right there. I had a two, three Red Bull a day habit at one point.

I don't think I've ever put anything in my body that made me feel worse than Red Bull. It makes you feel bad? Yeah. Huh. Yeah. I did love, back in my VMA watching days, I loved the Red Bull vodka. I thought it was a fun drink. It would keep me up, keep me going, get my energy, fun.

He's your wings. He's moving his shoulders back and forth. Yeah, I'm shimmying. So you can tell he's- For the record, I'm shimmying. Yeah, you can tell it's the late 80s. I know, I enjoyed it. Again, I would not think that they made $7 billion off of my little shoulder shimmy that

it gave me. It'll make your shoulders do this. That's what they're going to change. Oh, but I guess they did profit from like F1 sponsorships. I mean, they got money here and there. But I mean, their core business is the energy drink. Yeah. And just knowing that Red Bull has just become synonymous with like fucking extreme adrenaline shit. Right.

So they just use that to make themselves. They seem to be an example of a smart direction of that 12-year-old energy. They like invest their 12-year-old money well. Right. They're like, you know what, dude? Fuck it. Let's send a guy. If this guy wants to jump out of fucking space, then fuck it. That was the coolest thing ever.

I know. And I was like, damn, Red Bull? Very cool. It was a weird thing in college I used to like sort of like sort of dream about i was like dude how sick would that be if you just jump from space space dude and you got the fucking x i would literally talk like this i'd be like think about this you're in space the fucking universe is expanding around you fucking infinitely and then you jump down into this like fucking finite plane on earth man just like I don't know dude it would fuck me up as I would say this

fucked up on a beanbag chair I'm realizing that this next story I should have teased as the Flamin' Hot Cheetos movie instead of Eva Longoria's next project but yeah Eva Longoria is going to direct a movie

about Flamin' Hot Cheetos. That sounds weirder than it is. The story of Flamin' Hot Cheetos is actually very interesting. When I saw the headline of Longoria to helm Flamin' Hot Cheetos or whatever, I was like, I thought, did the Emoji movie do that well? People were like, fuck it, man. Yeah, this is doing about this bag of chips. But I didn't realize it's the origin story of Flamin' Hot Cheetos.

Is there a story to be told? Yeah. Really? It's got everything. It's got the immigrant experience. It's got fucking just dedicated. I don't know, Jack. Really?

When I said it, Jack was like, oh, yeah. Yeah, because of my previous job, I just know cool stories. Cheeto enthusiast. Yeah, I was a head of the Cheeto. I was a brand rep for frito le different events in the city you were in the hand of big cheeto yeah but this it's the story of a janitor uh who worked at the frito le company and was just a huge huge fan of cheetos and he and his wife had this ingredient that they would add to it that would make it extra

super spicy. And he like Goodwill hunting his way up in the snack food world and like, you know, used his access to the Frito-Lay company to get this idea in front of people and become an executive. Oh, so, oh, so it wasn't like that he was just sweeping up and he was like, hey, hey, hey, hey, come here. I think when he pitched it, he was a custodian. Oh, damn. Yeah. See?

And then did his best friend knock on his door hoping that he wouldn't be there? Yeah. He's like, you did it. The best part of my day. And now he's an executive. Yeah. Hopefully he's profiting off of his wonderful creation

and they weren't just like, how about we give you a job and we won't give you any of the actual real money. I think he got, I think he profited. He got in. Thank God. I mean, there's Flamin' Hot. You think about how the Flamin' Hot universe, it's constantly expanding as well. Flamin' Hot Funyuns,

not a big fan of, I'll be honest. Funyuns are fine the way they are. I'm gonna say something that's probably gonna be as controversial as the fact that I know Bret Stephens. I don't love Cheetos. I've never loved Cheetos. I don't love Doritos. I've never loved Doritos. Now that's a little more controversial.

I think there's something about cheesy, tortilla-y, cheese and corn processed. For some reason, it doesn't do it for me. I just took off his shirt and started stretching. I'm sweating. Listen, I'm not above processed foods. I love me a good processed food. What's your favorite? Come on, prove yourself right now. What's your favorite processed food? Nilla wafers, bitch. Oh, shit.

Damn, what do you run a preschool snack counter? I love a Nilla wafer. More than an Oreo? Oh, yeah. Way more. Wow. Way more. Oh, I can.

There's something refined about that, actually, because I do appreciate there is something very. There's a subtlety to it. Yeah. It's really, it doesn't smack you on top of the head, but next thing you know, you finish the whole box. It's really wonderful. Yeah.

And if you want to fucks with a Nilla wafer banana pudding. Oh, yeah. See, that's the thing. My earliest memories are Nilla wafers being handed out in like daycare yeah and then on the box i always remember they present it as the garnish and like this pudding i have yet to have that dude you got somebody help me out all you got to do is google magnolia bakery nilla wafer pudding and follow that it's so easy you make it with uh with jello instant uh vanilla pudding great and you and basically that's it yeah and then you need a banana and throw some bananas

in there nilla wafers dude of course it's that easy of course it's so easy and it's so good it's a it's a party pleaser if you're going to a party you want to bring something everyone's going to talk about you ever make it i make it all the fucking time. Oh, damn. Oh, so Nilla Wafers really is. I love Nilla Wafers. I never buy. I don't have like Nillas in the fucking pantry. But like Nabisco holler.

Yeah. Yeah. Nillas in the pantry. Yeah, guys. Give me a lifetime supply of fucking Nillas. Who else is fucking hawking Nilla Wafers on podcast? Literally no one. Nobody.

Yeah. But yeah, I love a Nilla. I call it Nija. Nija wafers. Wow. Yeah. Someone's from Colombia. I call it a Nija wafer.

Nija. Nija. Vanilla. Vanilla. Let's talk about the hashtag boycott Olive Garden movement. Yeah. Stop calling it a movement it's a movement it is okay sorry boycott olive garden revolution uh it's it will not be televised so

olive garden is one of the food brands i guess they're mostly food brands that got mentioned in that tweet and then bernie sanders just retweeted retweeted it. Didn't even retweet it, just like quoted it and mentioned the same thing without fact checking it. And the Washington Post pointed out that at least the information that that tweet was going off of, they were including money donated by PACs and individuals. So not necessarily like the company itself.

From the organization, yeah. Right. That's why when I had to clarify people with taco bell right they were on that list but the owner of the company isn't the best either so right i think it's funny though it's like what is the venn diagram of people who go to olive garden and people who like care this much about where their money goes yes exactly like i don't know that there's much of a cross-section there Well, with that lifetime pasta pass they just gave away. I mean, that's value, man. That's value.

$400 for a lifetime of pizza, pasta, soup, and breadsticks. I mean, look, I think that if we can talk about the food just for one minute, and then we'll get back into the politics. I think that the Olive Garden is, I put it on the same level as what I imagine the pumpkin spice latte is, which is like a bunch of

like scientists get together and then what and they're like what can just like activate all the pleasure sensors in my brain yeah let's just work from there because the food is delicious it's fucking gross it's just like you know you know Cheesecake Factory is like delicious and gross yeah these are all the same continuum and they're just eating it back. Sugar Fish, McDonald's, Cheesecake Factory. For sure, Fish getting dragged into this. Right. Yeah, Sugar Fish. Don't even look into their politics, man.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Fucking Kazu, dude. But then it was wrong, right? Yeah, so it was basically like they weren't, or the whole list was kind of. Yeah, the whole list is a little bit questionable. I'm anti-list. I'm an anti-list guy in general.

Yeah. I think they can get dangerous. Yeah. Yeah, and apparently this isn't the first time Olive Garden has been targeted by an online boycott because back in 2015, conservatives were up in arms that the company that owns Olive Garden was donating to Planned Parenthood, and that was also bullshit stemming from a boycott list. So this is something that happens on both sides. Hey, man, Darden Restaurants gets a bad rap, man.

Right. So that's the thing. They didn't do nothing wrong. If you want to boycott Olive Garden, there's plenty of good reasons to. Like what? So they contribute to this National Restaurant Association lobbying interest that is basically all

about you know trying to screw their employees over that's probably every one of these fucking oh yeah yeah yeah probably can't imagine a behemoth company because i think they're the one of the largest employers of like tipped workers or something right no it's because of because they own all of garnett it's not. It's more an indictment of the system. Right. But they have fought specifically to not give employees sick leave and fought when regulations are suggesting that they should give employees sick leave, which is not a great policy for your workers or your customers, since the CDC has found that infected food

workers account for the vast majority, 70% of neurovirus outbreaks. And the Olive Garden had outbreaks of illnesses involving hundreds of their staff and customers in 2006 and 2011. And Darden is still fighting to not give their employees good sick day benefits. And they're the largest direct employer of tipped workers in the world and are trying to fight against the undoing

of the sub-minimum wage that applies to tipped workers. So basically making it so they can pay their tipped employees even less. And then they pay a lot of their employees with fucking gift cards, like reloadable debit cards to save them costs on payroll stuff rather than handing out paper checks.

Which opens the employees to all sorts of fees and shit because, yeah. Fuck. It's not a great company. No. It's not a great company. Damn it. But.

But. Those breadsticks, though.sticks though but i mean can you argue with hospitaliano really the salad and breadsticks i got a question are the most undervalued of our restaurant offerings yeah i love because it's free you just go in there just eat all that shit go have a person who's sick who has no other financial recourse but to go to work cough on your food no you just say stay away from me stay away you you pour you sprinkle a z-pack on right on the bread sticks and you go to town yeah i let me ask you this fresh ground z-pack you got you guys seem like foodies you guys seem like fans of the food no i gave you that i said mcdonald's is america's

greatest invention what is your level of let's say there's of, let's say there's like a KKK guy who happens to be making like the country's, the best paella anyone's ever tasted. Yeah. Would you go and have that paella? Well, what did he do with the KKK? He was like the treasurer. He wasn't even a treasurer. He was like their social media outreach. He wasn't even a treasurer. He was like their social media outreach.

But like second in command. Like he would just have to keep the passwords in order and stuff. And what kind of seafood is in the paella? Oh, just like he... This should show you

how flexible I'm with fraud ads. Listen, he's so... He's such a sustainable fisher. Like he will only use things from the Gulf that have bounced back. Their populations have bounced back. Wow. But he will only use things from the Gulf that, you know, have bounced back. Their populations have bounced back. Wow. But he's making the most delicious, like Jose Andres. Did you, I'm asking, did you see that photo of me at David Duke's house having paella?

Is that where this is coming from? That's what we're all doing here. I was hoodwinked. It's an intervention. Yeah. I did actually go to the South once. I had, I had a show, I think it was in South Carolina, and I had a show at a Jewish federation as well. And after the show, they're like, we're going to get food. Are you okay? This was like 10 years ago, too. They're like, are you okay? The best barbecue in town is this company.

And the guy is clearly a huge fan of the Confederacy. There's going to be Confederate flags everywhere. And he's got a book. He's written books about i think it's called like sunny's barbecue i don't know i don't want to give give out the wrong name but um if you're in the south you know what i'm talking about like it's a chain of barbecue places every barbecue yeah um like the guy has books about why like the south will rise again but his barbecue is so delicious i was like i'll go let's do it guys fucking table full of jews went and had pork barbecue it was like a lot of it was very intersectional yeah very think that races would make terrible tasting food sometimes food might be the great the you know it's it's very hard to hate someone when they make such great food well but yeah but yeah, I feel like a lot of racists have no problem eating Mexican food.

That's true. It's funny because when you see all those people like- Long enough to see the person cooking it. Yeah, like where Kellyanne Conway or like Mitch McConnell's like having Mexican food and they're like, well, I like my guacamole. Right. It's easy on my gums. Oh, gross.

Dan, it has been a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people listen to you, find you, follow you? Thank you so much for having me. This has been very fun. All my socials are at StandUpDan, and I have a new podcast called Green Eggs and Dan,

which is very fun. It's a fun food podcast. It's not a lame, pretentious one. A lot of my friends and amazing guests that we start every episode by going through their fridge, an actual picture of their fridge, and then get into a food conversation with that. Hasan Minhaj was our first guest.

Michelle Buteau is the second. Wow. The Sklar brothers are going to be on tomorrow. It's a lot of fun and uh please give it a listen what are you learning about people's fridge habits the great divider is marriage yeah the single people it's like it's an Armageddon yeah it's like wasteland of condiments right an actual empty box of beer yeah exactly, exactly. Have you ever had that? You reach in, you're like, what the fuck?

Throw this away. How long has this been in here? It's a Zima box. Bro, last time I was here, this box was in here, and I yelled at you, and you said you're going to take care of it. Right. Yeah, and the married people with kids have more, like, seven cows worth of milk in their fridge.

It's insane how much milk kids drink. It's crazy. It really is. Dairy farmers have it made. Yeah. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Actually, David Chang just tweeted a very fun tweet today about he was like throwing shade, as Sebastian says,

at crab boils. No! We all pretend like we love them, but it's the worst way that you could cook a crab. But some journalist wrote this really beautiful tweet about it. Okay, yeah, so this is this guy, David Simon, who's a journalist, and he was writing about crab boils.

And he said, Boil is a tragic error in speech and deed. A steamed, undrowned blue crab is God's recipe. And Wendell Pierce, who was accorded five years in Baltimore, should know this. Boiled crabs stand as the rare singular crime in seafood preparation committed with Orleans Parish. David Simon is also the creator of The Wire, I think. Yes, yes. Which he would know a thing or two about crabs and Bayou.

Orleans. And Tremé. Orleans, yeah. Tremé too. Right, that's what I'm saying. Miles, where can people find you? Find me, follow me on Twitter and Instagram, at Miles of Grey.

A couple tweets I like. One is from Reductress, at Reductress. Free speech is a fundamental right, says Bedbug. And then one more from Dan Licata, at Dan Licata sucks. Because I just searched, I just wanted to see what Sebastian Maniscalco was up to. But I just found this. Hashtag Sebastian Maniscalco tweet. Sebastian Maniscalco hosting the VMAs.

Back when I was growing up, we didn't have hot girl summer. We had hot sausage summer. My Uncle Frank's on the grill. Somebody asks us for a sweet sausage. Sweet? You want something sweet? Have a Zeppole. Anyway, give it up for Lil Nas X.

Oh, man. I mean, that's like basically what it was. I don't know how you can height and what he was doing up there. Tweet I've been enjoying. Clean slate at please be nice. Tweeted me. Well, sharks should really pick a lane, you know. Aquarium guy.

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