The Daily Zeitgeist - R.E.M. Thriving, Tarantino Saves 3.17.20

Episode Date: March 17, 2020

In episode 588, Jack and Miles are joined by Bechdel Cast's Jamie Loftus to discuss the Fed throwing money in the wrong place, Trump trying to buy the coronavirus antidote, the man who bought seventee...n thousand bottles of hand sanitizer, the origin of Draconian, REM blowing up in the charts, fun things to do to kill time, Fiona Apple's advice on how to quit cocaine, why we need to stay in with Arnold, and more!FOOTNOTES: Exclusive: Fed is ‘throwing money in the wrong place,’ says Sheila Bair, former top banking regulator Germany tries to stop US from luring away firm seeking coronavirus vaccine He Has 17,700 Bottle of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them Man Who Hoarded 18,000 Bottles Of Hand Sanitizer To Resell: I'm Not Sorry Draco (lawgiver) Cool, R.E.M.'s "It's The End Of The World As We Know It" is charting again Fiona Apple says she quit cocaine after "one excruciating night" at Quentin Tarantino's house with Paul Thomas Anderson: "Every addict should just get locked in a private movie theatre with Q.T. and P.T.A. on coke, and they’ll never want to do it again." Fiona Apple’s Art of Radical Sensitivity this gets better with every single second & i will never recover from it ...if I preface the video by saying it’s Arnold Schwarzenegger in his kitchen wearing a Terminator t-shirt and giving coronavirus advice, while feeding a pony called Whisky & a donkey called Lulu.... it is somehow still better than you imagined WATCH: The Meters - Thinking Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:22 What? Damn! Never ever. and fuck Fox News. What? Damn! Ever. It's Tuesday, March 17th, 2020. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. He's a guy named Jack who started Cracked years before.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Then he started TDZ to give us more. That is courtesy of Crispy Meme Donut. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Oh yeah, I'll tell you
Starting point is 00:02:54 something I think you'll understand when I'll say that something you gotta wash your hands you gotta wash your hands. You gotta wash your hands. You gotta wash your hands. Please wash your hands.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Please stay safe. That AKA is from at singing pilgrim. Pamela M.M. Berkeley, the display name. Thank you for that. Beatles inspired AKA. Gotta wash your hands. The Beatles. Gotta love for that. Beatles inspired, a.k.a. Gotta Wash Your Hands. The Beatles.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Gotta love them. Gotta Wash Your Hands also. Yep. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the very first face on Mount Zeitmore. She is the hilarious. She is the talented. The Lil' Zam herself, Jamie Lofton!
Starting point is 00:03:44 I want to stand all corporate femme power in. I want to bathe in shield gasoline. I want to make up with oppressors. Y'all's glass ceiling fall on me. Oh, that was beautiful. Hi. Did you write that, AKA? No, that's at just T-D-Z, AKA.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Ah, wonderful. That was a very special one. That was also, fun fact, my parents' wedding song, and they are still married. Okay, great. Even though, well, just because they can't afford to get divorced. Ah, got it, got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Strategic elongation of the marriage. Exactly. They're like, do we want to have disposable income to go to the 99, or do we want to get divorced? They made their call. What's the 99? Oh, the 99 is a New England restaurant that sucks. We're married couples who don't want to get married
Starting point is 00:04:50 because they need the income. Go for dinner. It was like where we, it's like a variation on Chili's. It's just like where you go to argue with your family. Oh, got it. Got it. Savage Garden. That's who that is, right?
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yes. Yes, it is. Absolutely. Savage Garden. No affiliation with Olive Garden. That's who that is, right? Yes, it is absolutely Savage Garden. No affiliation with Olive Garden. No. Well, guys, we are podcasting. We're casting pod clear across the city of Los Angeles
Starting point is 00:05:15 from our own respective bunkers. We're bunkered down, as Miles mentioned on yesterday's episode. That was the last one in person for a while. That one was actually recorded last week. And now we are remote. Yeah. And it feels a little weird screaming into my empty house. But, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:42 It's good. It sounds good. Did you all see the, whatchamacallit the john oliver episode from last night that was the most dystopian content yet it was still really funny but he's just sitting in a white void in an undisclosed location i just saw that thumbnail and i was like oh yeah okay that's uh yeah shout Shout out to those writers. It's still a good episode, but it's like, the thumbnail is jarring. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Shout out to Daniel O'Brien. Yay. Is it like a webcam? Is he just like sitting there? Does he look like we look in each other's Google Hangouts right now? No, it looks like. Just like shitty and grainy? It looks like, it's just like a white void background.
Starting point is 00:06:24 It looks like a broadcast that would happen like right before they're like, you know, like the helicopters are about to descend, like take cover. Like a very calm British person on against a void background. It's like, yeah, it was like pre-recorded. It's like if you are seeing this message. Yeah, exactly. Just please chill. If you've seen this message, please relax. Everything's all good.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I still associate white void backgrounds with like 80s TV versions of Heaven. And also... Oh, right. And everyone's wearing a white suit. Well, here we are in our different bunkers. It's nice to see what everybody's house
Starting point is 00:07:03 looks like, honestly. Yeah, it's great. You can see the air vents in my roof. Yeah, someone's got central air. Wow. Yeah. And you look at mine, you're like, someone has a curtain for a door. All right, let's tell the people what we're talking about today.
Starting point is 00:07:27 So we're going to try and divvy things up a little bit so uh act one we won't do too much corona news uh act two will be more you know what's happening on the news what people are talking about on the news uh with regards to politics and also the uh the pandemic uh we're gonna talk in act three about a little bit more diversions uh and what we're what we're all doing uh in our respective uh bunkers to stay sane yeah yeah so um that's gonna be kind of a new format like in act three we're gonna talk about how it was a good week for rem in terms of their streaming numbers yeah uh miles created an activity uh that i think is fun i'm i'm for one gonna try uh and then we're gonna talk about the new method for getting off of cocaine a method yeah just like Just like most effective treatments for anything,
Starting point is 00:08:27 it's only available to a very select few, but if you can get your hands on it, you will never do cocaine again. Right. It was brought to us by Fiona Apple. We're all thrilled to go out and try it ourselves. But first, Jamie Loftus. We like to ask our guests guests what is something from your search
Starting point is 00:08:46 history that's revealing about who you are friend oh boy I've been putting a lot of stuff in online shopping carts and then taking them out and I feel like I encourage Zeitgang to share your dystopian cart with us I've been hearing
Starting point is 00:09:02 a lot of dystopian carts I bought a katana like a legit katana not like a legit katana like a like a 23 katana i think it's like a cosplaying katana but i just wanted to see how it felt in my hand you know okay well i will say if you want to know how it feels you almost want that real steel in your hands to really feel the balance of the blade. Oh, okay. As a true blade master? Yeah. As a Japanese person who's going to pretend to be the samurai teacher, yeah, I think you need the real steel in your hands. I'm going to be like, what is that old meme that's like, while you were at parties, I was studying the blade.
Starting point is 00:09:46 old meme that's like while you were at parties i was studying the blade that's gonna be like while you were having sex with the love of your life i was studying the blade right meanwhile isaac is just in the corner crying his eyes out with a bunch of bruises from your cosplay sword yeah he just got in the way of my blade too many times were you real when you said you got a saxophone or you want you're thinking about getting a sax i put that in the cart and then i took it out of the cart i wanted i want a beginner's instrument the student instruments are more affordable than i thought so i was like oh maybe i'll get a clarinet and isaac was like i don't want to hear that and like you have to be sensitive to your partner when you're ordering an annoying instrument absolutely so so so i'm between an alto sax and a violin oh i mean i think violin i think you're gonna well didn't you say you played oboe
Starting point is 00:10:35 yeah but it turns out that's out of my tax bracket yeah yeah so expensive have you seen reeds and what reeds cost these days? Oh, yes. You think in the time of Corona, I can afford an oboe reed? Get real. There's something, but I think either one, whether it's a sax or a violin,
Starting point is 00:10:56 the visual of you playing the shit out of either one, I think will bring joy to many. So whichever it is. I want to try. I want to try. And then I wanted to get like a fake hazmat suit. I don't want to get a real one because I'm sure people need them. But a fake Breaking Bad Halloween costume hazmat suit because I've been doing Jane Fonda exercises,
Starting point is 00:11:14 and I want to do one in a hazmat suit. Just the same exact video. It'll probably help you sweat a lot, too. Just for the content? Just for the content. You know, this is really a golden age for content when you think about it. Yeah, the bar is about to go crashing through the content. This is really a golden age for content when you think about it. The bar is about to go crashing through the floor
Starting point is 00:11:29 how low it's going to be. Ana's on TikTok. We're all finding our new content niche. I'm going to start an only fans for just foot stuff. Super producer Ana Hosnia is now going to be like a traffic reporter for the Daily Zeitgeist, but exclusively from TikTok.
Starting point is 00:11:49 She's going to be telling us what the latest trends are, what's happening on TikTok up to the moment. The TikTok on TikTok. We're going to be getting... We found out about the Corona challenge that the kids are into right before we started recording, which is kids licking a toilet seat for the lulz. But it's not going to get them sick. It's just going to get a bunch of elderly people. If you thought the memes were cool now before all this, wait about six days when the memes are gonna we're gonna hit a new level of people trying to find meaning throughout all of this uh jamie what is something you think is underrated
Starting point is 00:12:32 oh underrated uh is new life i my niece was born yesterday i'm really excited about it uh yeah it was it was i mean it is like a wild story like just hearing like i mean obviously people are still having babies and shit but just the way that like they're brought into the hospital is a little bit different but my uh my niece was born her name is carolina clark uh code name corona clark and uh she she weighed 7 pounds and 11 ounces, which is how you know that we're related. Yeah, straight 7-11 baby. She's a straight-up 7-11 baby.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Yeah, I wonder how many people are thinking like, hey, well, if everything's on pause, hey, can we put this pregnancy on pause? Do we got to deliver it now? It's going to be pretty rough. Yeah, healthcare workers want to stay home as much as anybody, to deliver it now like it's going to be pretty rough yeah health care workers are you know just want to stay home as much as anybody and especially ones who aren't you know necessary for the for specifically corona stuff but i think eventually you know all health care workers are probably
Starting point is 00:13:38 going to be called in to uh help out in the effort absolutely Absolutely. Shout out to all healthcare workers at Gain. I know a couple of people who are very pregnant right now and who are going in for their last checkups with their OBGYN and it's like they're tense outside the hospital. It's got to be a little bit unnerving.
Starting point is 00:13:59 That's awesome to hear that it can work out. And you can have a 7-Eleven babe. You can have a little 7-eleven baby every picture i've seen of her she looks worried so she can like read probably genius uh what is something you think is overrated overrated is uh watch like starting to binge a good tv show i've already i mean this is what day three i've already tried to watch two shows that i haven't watched before that are good and i've gotten really stressed out and bored like i was like oh now is the time to start west world now this is it this is my moment but it's not it's
Starting point is 00:14:39 for me anyways it's not the time for thinking tv. Not trying to challenge myself media-wise at this time. And so I tried Westworld and I dropped it after two episodes and then I went back and I watched something really fucked up on Netflix. It felt way better. I think like a new thing that would be tight, I was proposing this to Her Majesty, is if things really start changing.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Why not fully regress, put up the Christmas decorations, watch only Christmas holiday films. And just be like, we talked about it over the weekend too. Oh really? Like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:15:15 let's just go into a time warp. Like if we're going to, if I'm really going to throw myself off, like I might as well just go to the time where I'm like, yo, let's watch trash Christmas films. Cause there's plenty of those that I've still not seen, even though I am challenging myself
Starting point is 00:15:28 to try and watch all of them. Yo, I mean, we were thinking after one failed episode of Westworld, we were like, should we bust out the Rankin-Bass specials right now? Are we doing this? Yeah. But I give it three days.
Starting point is 00:15:40 It'll happen. I think the other thing too, we were talking about it on yesterday's show, but the VHS archive that's on the internet archive, it has stuff that's ripped from tapes from the early as the 60s up until now, mainly clustered in the late 80s and 90s when people were really ripping things off their VHS decks.
Starting point is 00:16:00 You can just go back and be like, I will watch a three-hour cluster of rocco's modern life from like 1997 uh or things like that or commercials there's you know keep yourselves entertained however you have to i'm gonna i have like a pile of vhs's at the house that is just like all the footage from my childhood of just my mom holding like a tank-sized video recorder screaming at children being like so hard i was like maybe it's time to digitize that maybe it's time to open those wounds yeah start making a really cool art house film yeah your mom just sounded a lot like nicole byer by the way uh
Starting point is 00:16:37 i also like i encourage everyone to be like you know like be creative during this time and stuff, but it does make me laugh to think about two years from now when just a bunch of shitty dystopian movies come out at once and you're like, well, we know what that was. I mean, think of all the fucking rom-com scripts that people are going to be fucking combing through this next year. Or worse, Mumblecore. If a Mumblecore movie comes out about Corona, which it will, I'll flip a table, Mumblecore. I'm just like, if a Mumblecore movie comes
Starting point is 00:17:06 out about Corona, which it will, I'll flip a table, which I will. Yeah. I'm actually keeping one of those old-timey metal trash cans right at my bedside and right next to me at all times just in case it becomes time to panic and I need to throw it through a window.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I recommend that. It's a good release valve. Yeah, get your throwing can. Finally, Jamie, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? I was struggling with the myth today. Everything feels like a myth.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I guess that my myth, it may be more of a somber myth than I was planning, but here's the myth. The myth is that people will reach out to you when they're feeling lonely. They might not. Like I've been, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:17:53 I've been like FaceTiming with friends over the weekend or there's been people who have just like FaceTimed me out of nowhere and been like, hey, are you feeling okay? Are you feeling good? And it's just been i don't know it's been nice and i've been calling what like like i called my parents uh which was annoying but then i called you know aunts and uncles and shit like that and like it's it's
Starting point is 00:18:18 is it's been nice i i think that like there's some people that you call and they don't want to admit like because they're whatever proud that they're like, hey, I'm feeling a little lonely, feeling a little isolated. Wish you hadn't moved across the country. A lot of those discussions. But it's been good. So I guess don't count on people, especially maybe the more prideful people in your life. They might not tell you that they're feeling lonely. Or my favorite is like when I would call a family member and then they would be like,
Starting point is 00:18:51 Jesus Christ, I'm fine. Right. Please leave me alone. I was looking forward to this. Yeah, like dial at your own risk. I had that with some of my relatives and then they uh like they were sending text messages like everybody chill out this is gonna be fine and then like the next time i talked to them like 24 hours later they had like made peace with the fact that our lives were about to change for
Starting point is 00:19:17 a while so yeah i think people are all going through this at their own rate but honestly the people who are having a good week, all these video chat services. I mean, look at us. I've been on a couple Google Hangouts. I think also, too, all your text threads, you have a bunch of people. Turn that into a video conference.
Starting point is 00:19:35 You will be surprised how life-affirming it can be to see everyone's faces. Because if you're fortunate enough to be working from home and to have the free time, it can be very nourishing. All right, guys, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that.
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Starting point is 00:24:54 their loans back and they don't have cash flow. We need to get help out there, especially to small businesses and people already losing their jobs. And I just think that's an important point. This is something that I've kind of felt over and over again, really in the past few months, that there's just this sort of feedback loop between the mainstream media and Donald Trump specifically, and just wealthy media elites and the sorts of people who pay attention to the stock market where they think they're the only ones whose opinions matter. And I feel like we're starting to see that get punctured a little bit as the reality of the situation breaks through.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Oh, yeah. I mean, you have Mitt Romney out here proposing possibly giving people $1,000 right now just to offset things. And it's funny. So many of the funnier tweets and stuff I've read over the weekend were things about, you know, just being like, you know, this virus has the government
Starting point is 00:25:51 actually giving people human rights now. And trying to address these things because I think, you know, it had to come to a point where the rubber met the road and it was like, are you really going to expect people to not work and also get these things done? Like, how is that that even possible and you can no longer blame other people you can no longer say rah rah bootstrap shit it's like no no there needs to be tangible uh assistance for this to work and not have just a chain reaction that you know i think they're not quite prepared for
Starting point is 00:26:22 yeah it is like kind of surprising to see i mean not surprising i guess but just like how this has forced the government to provide some like basic services to two people like just like things that people have been asking for forever like in la there's been like a proposal to just get like hand washing stations at homeless encampments for like ever ever ever and they have just started to roll them out in the last week because it feels like a possible threat to the you know the government they don't actually give a shit but like at least something's happening yeah i mean i think it's gonna take a while because on one level you you see that they've done everything they could to try and stabilize it
Starting point is 00:27:05 from the top down by slashing interest rates and things like that. And the markets still didn't really respond the way they did. And I think luckily on the other end, hopefully local municipalities, I've seen even in the area, school districts trying to set up ways to distribute food for kids who are counting on school to get their meals and things like that it seems like a lot of the more uh you know tangible or effective solutions are having to come from the people on the ground because clearly the federal government is in total disarray um but i think it's i hope i mean they'll i don't know if we can talk about what are positives or negatives throughout this whole thing but at the very least these sort of these topics are entering the discussion,
Starting point is 00:27:46 at least on a national level. Yeah, I mean, from a historic perspective, it seems like, you know, the last time that America was truly open to very progressive policies was, like, during the Depression and after World War II or during World War II.
Starting point is 00:28:03 So, I mean, maybe that's what it takes to get America, you know, out of its own ass enough to, like, realize that people need help. Yeah. Well, Trump is hoping for sort of an easier fix to all of this, and that is a magic pill. He's hoping someone's just going to is a magic pill. He's, he's hoping to make the magic, the magic pill.
Starting point is 00:28:28 He doesn't like needles. I'm sure. I don't like needles. Do you have it? And can you put it into a Flintstones chewable vitamin? I will say, I will say that I haven't laughed at a Trump tweet in a very long time, but I did laugh at his social distancing tweet.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Did you see that? That was a pretty good one. A lot of old man yelling. A lot of old man yelling. Yeah, but so there's a biotech company in Germany that's working on a vaccine for the virus, and I feel like we're hearing that various news stories where people are trying out vaccines or biotech companies are trying to make advances against
Starting point is 00:29:10 the virus. But Donald Trump being who Donald Trump is, wanted to kind of keep it all for himself. Yeah, there's, I mean, again, a vaccine would be tremendously helpful right now, clearly because it's a pandemic. The effects of people not being able to work or falling ill are really significant. And yes, a vaccine would not only be a game changer for everyone's health, but would also be, I guess, very profitable if you're a greedy fucking sociopath like Donald Trump is who is looking at this possible vaccine as like a straight up moneymaker. So this company in Germany, you know, they've been they've been pretty successful.
Starting point is 00:29:50 They were hoping to start like trials on people in the summer. And at a certain point, we found out that Donald Trump was offering them a lot of money, like many funds to lure the company to the United States and to continue to operate in the United States and keep the vaccine just so it would only be available to the United States. And then possibly if they own it, then they can start licensing it to other people. I don't know, but this was purely looked at as a business opportunity from the president to the point where like Germany was in a bidding war with the United States to be like, no, please stay. In the end, they clearly were like,
Starting point is 00:30:27 no, we're not going to leave. And the government of Germany was like, I don't know what the fuck y'all thought you were trying to do. Rick Grinnell, who's the ambassador to Germany or former ambassador was like, no, that's all just a joke. That never happened.
Starting point is 00:30:40 But then when it was confirmed, he was like, okay, maybe that I'll take my last'll take my last jk yeah i feel like this is another place where we're seeing the like market based economy and government and media apparatus that has run america for so long just being kind of ill-equipped to even like just the paradigm in general and like people's brains are just incapable of sort of get, get it wrapping their minds around the idea of a world where it's not just like, Ooh, we gotta get,
Starting point is 00:31:13 we gotta get that and sell it and you know, beat the competition. And it's like, no, we're all trying not to have a species wide, like, you know, devastation.
Starting point is 00:31:24 It would be cute if it weren't so fucked up. The fact that our president is out here still thinking that we're in charge. It's so clearly not the case at this point. And just, I don't know. Or even that the stakes are low enough that you can play greedy, greedy entrepreneur and not be playing with millions of lives. But again, I think that shows the mindset.
Starting point is 00:31:52 The problem is actually completely abstract to him. And it's much more serious. But yet, here he goes trying to bribe researchers in other countries to be like, give it all to us and then we can sell it. It's really not surprising either seeing anything related to this like operating on a like a transactional level is very very alarming yeah yeah well the shenanigans i think of like all of this it's brought out the best and the worst in people. Oh, I love this story. It's wild. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:32:26 There was like, obviously, like last week and the weeks before it, there was clearly a rush on things like masks and cleaning supplies and disinfectant and sanitizers. Also, guys, soap is perfectly great. It's actually very effective because it breaks up the oils in which the virus lives in. So also consider using hand soap too. Just as good. Soapy water, fantastic. And also hand lotion.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Use that because people's hands are getting dried out. Mine started cracking a little bit. Started moisturizing. Much better. Oh, okay. Save that bacon grease too. Someone tell Joe Biden about moisturizer. What'd you say?
Starting point is 00:33:05 Someone tell Joe Biden about moisturizer. What'd you say? Someone tell Joe Biden about moisturizer. Oh boy. No, it's too late for Joe. It's too late. I'm just saying Bernie came in moisturized and you know he was just using Irish spring. Oh yeah. Cutting it with a knife and rubbing it on himself.
Starting point is 00:33:20 So yeah. So a lot of people have been buying up these products. There were people obviously trying to price gouge on Amazon and eBay. And so this story came out about this guy and his brother in Kentucky who like went on a multi-state mission to buy up any Purell or masks or other things they thought were going to be profitable, like in a resale capacity. to be profitable like in a resale capacity and not only did they make the mistake of like talking out loud to the new york times about this but one of the brothers actually showed his fucking human being face on fucking television wearing a shirt that said family man family business as he like gave a news crew a tour of his garage where he had an estimated 17 000 bottles of hand sanitizer plus other goods so in this this article, he's like, yeah, man, it's quote, it's been a huge amount of whiplash from being in a situation where what
Starting point is 00:34:11 I've got come in and going could potentially put my family in a really good place financially to what the heck am I going to do with all this? Was being like, my plan didn't quite work out. And then he was telling them he actually felt maybe like he was doing a real you know paul revere of purell public service type vibe where he said quote there's a crushing overwhelming demand in certain cities right now the dollar general in the middle of nowhere outside lexington kentucky doesn't have that i honestly feel like it's a public service and I'm being paid for my public service. And his public service is how much is he charging people? He's giving it to
Starting point is 00:34:51 them at a discounted rate. No, he was putting the prices so high that eBay and Amazon perma fucked him off the platform for trying to price gouge. Not only that, I'm pretty sure the state attorney of Kentucky basically threatened him and the brother with illegal action if they attempted to unload any of this shit. Okay. Yeah. So now they have to donate everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Well, that's good. I look forward to the scam goddess episode on that. Yeah, right? I mean, it's such a short-sighted scam, but again, it's the reflex of how a lot of americans think because again we're like acting out i keep saying this we're acting out the same shit we see at a higher level which is like oh yeah someone's in pain how can i profit off this oh someone's hurt how can i profit off of this that's like just because that's the example we see our our institutions and the
Starting point is 00:35:43 companies that supposedly take care of us see us as oh you've got something wrong with you how am i going to extract every fucking dollar out of you and it's interesting to see the this echo effect in real life and this guy now he's saying like you know this whole thing's been a lot of like a disaster he's been getting a lot of cell phone calls people even fucked up messages people like sending him pizzas which is actually kind of fucked up because the people who are in a delivery capacity are a pretty intense risk um but he was saying it was never my intention to keep necessary medical supplies out of the hands of people who needed them that's not who i am as a person and all i've been told for the last 48 hours is how much of that person I am. Yeah, facts.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Okay. Ugh, Jesus. Well, I'm glad that he was thwarted at least. That's good. I mean, what a fucking loser. Kentucky seems to be having a rough time, rough go of it during this, just adapting in general because there's this duo
Starting point is 00:36:42 and then there's also the guy who tested positive and then was like you can't quarantine me i have my rights and so they had to like put an armed guard outside his house to keep him from leaving and infecting people um i mean yeah that's i mean i from what i've heard i feel like uh you know andy basheer, who is the governor, had a decent response. I don't know how true that is. I mean, I think every state's sort of dealing with everything in their own ways. But there's definitely, again, and I'm sure this will be a thing we continue to talk about as all kinds of news come up.
Starting point is 00:37:16 But like, we're starting, this is a really interesting examination of the psyche of Americans also, generationally, socially at every level you see like the attitude to of like a lot of older people who have the mentality of like america's the greatest country and nothing bad will ever happen having to sort of be confronted with the fact that yeah no this this can very well upend that uh you know self-held identity that that everyone thought upend that self-held identity that everyone thought. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Well, one phrase that I'm hearing people use a lot now is draconian. Are you guys hearing that in a lot of places? Yeah, a lot of dragon hate. Yeah, a lot of dragon hate. I was assuming this derivation was something to do with Draco Malfoy, but that's actually not the case. Oh. Yeah, so Draco was- Oh, that's not where that comes from? Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:38:15 I think Draco Malfoy might come from this, believe it or not. Good boy. Wow, JK Rowling doing a cute little turn of phrase. Isn't that wild? And being a transphobe it's also she truly does it all wow yeah who says women can't have it all draco gets a really bad rap he was the first legislator in ancient greece to make laws and like people were like fuck your laws um hey don, don't I got rights? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Draco. So, I mean, prior to that, it had been blood feuds and like, you know, whoever was in charge could decide whatever they wanted to do to people. And there were these random people who were arbitrarily able to enforce the laws because they quote-unquote knew the code. But that wasn't... So he was the first person to write them down. Now granted, when we look back at them, they're not great laws. Like they had capital punishment
Starting point is 00:39:21 for like stealing a cabbage. But they also made big progress in terms of just writing them down in the first place because everything up to that point was just whoever had the power and the weapon at that point got to decide what the law was. And also, it made distinctions between manslaughter and murder. That was the first time those were viewed as separate. So very early stages law stuff, but I think because people were pissed
Starting point is 00:39:57 that anyone was writing laws down in the first place, we were like, this is draconian. This is terrible. So just writing shit down? Yeah. I hate to be writing shit down yeah i hate to be a uh i'm actually person but wasn't the code of hamurabi one of the earliest written down laws in history yeah it might this might be like western bias where this is one of the first just you know just want to hold it down for hamurabi you know yeah what was you know you're we're living in a weird time because this is normally something that you Just want to hold it down for Hammurabi. Yeah. Can I just say,
Starting point is 00:40:27 you know we're living in a weird time because this is normally something that you would hear from a guy at a party. Right. Actually, Draconian... The code of Hammurabi. There's a lot of baggage attached to the term Draconian that you might not actually realize
Starting point is 00:40:43 and then be like, oh, sorry, I i'm gonna go get another miller light i'll be right back no this is this is what that guy leaves i wasn't able to go to parties and just make people run away from me with really boring uh historic derivations of words so and i would always have to shoehorn in that i knew what the code of hamurabi yeah you're like but yeah you guys are like wingmen for each other like dude no you guys so you guys both come off looking real smart miles after action post-mortem heard the conversation front he's like oh hey i couldn't help but overhear that you were talking uh then at the end of the
Starting point is 00:41:22 night at the end of the night we meet up outside the party and we compare notes. We're like, all right, so how do we do? How many numbers do we get? They're like, I had three women tell me to never fucking talk to them.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Oh, shit. It's like info. It's info from the same guy that is like, yeah, only watch season one of Mr. Robot.
Starting point is 00:41:39 It gets really shitty after that. So there's this band, Tame Impala. It's basically one guy though. Oh boy. Well, I guess I'm going to spike the next story about how
Starting point is 00:41:53 season two of Mr. Robot really drops off. Wow. You really expect me to watch something and then tell me it's a dream halfway through the season, honey? Come on. Oh, you're going to hate that one episode or that one season of fucking Dexter. My God.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Oh, wow. I hope things don't get so bad that I have to watch Dexter. That would be too bad. Truly apocalyptic. Truly. All right, guys. Let's take another break, and we'll be back I've been thinking about you I want you back in my life
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Starting point is 00:43:25 app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, everyone. It's me, Katie Couric. If you follow me on social media, you know I love to cook or at least try, especially alongside some of my favorite chefs and foodies like Benny Blanco, Jake Cohen, Lighty Hoyt, Alison Roman, and of course, Ina Garten and Martha Stewart. So I started a free newsletter called Good Taste that comes out every Thursday, and it's serving up recipes that will make your mouth water. Think a candied bacon Bloody Mary, tacos with cabbage slaw, curry cauliflower with almonds and mint, and cherry slab pie with vanilla ice cream to top it all off.
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Starting point is 00:46:34 And we're back. And let's talk pop culture. Let's talk things that aren't the news. Yeah. Let's talk, REM, one of my favorite bands growing up that nobody really listens to anymore.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Hey, so it's the end of the world. I think a lot of people know that. Maybe that's the only REM song. It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. It's just that and like
Starting point is 00:47:03 they did Everybody Hurts, right? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, wow, look at you. So that song came out in 87, I believe. And I think at its heyday, when it was on the charts, like in the 80s, it peaked at number 69 on Billboard's Hot 100. Swish.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Currently, on the iTunes charts, it's number 43. and that's 29 spots higher than it was on friday so this this song is climbing the effing charts right now yeah this is like the dystopian version of when like bohemian rhapsody got really popular again when wayne's world came out yeah right right right yeah but i mean they're're both good songs. I think you need that. They need to both be songs that hold up. Yeah. And then I feel like Bohemian Rhapsody came back with the
Starting point is 00:47:54 movie Bohemian Rhapsody, which, I don't know. Is that a Wayne's World movie? Yeah, it's about the making of Wayne's World. It's a Wayne's World joint? No, but I feel like now people are like, that song sucks Wayne's World. It's about the making of Wayne's World. It's a Wayne's World joint. No, but I feel like now people are like, that song sucks and think it's Queen's most popular song.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Whereas when it first came back, it was like, oh yeah, here's an unheralded gem from the early days of Queen. Now people are like, it's the Ice Ice Baby of the 70s. We get it um um yeah i think when you compare it to other songs that are coming out right now it's getting more downloads than billy eilish's bad guy lizzo's good as hell and uh nile horan is that how you say his name from one direction haran i think it's Horan. Anyway, that guy, the One Direction guy, he put out a new album last Friday,
Starting point is 00:48:52 and this song from R.E.M. is still just crushing all of them. Ouch. You love to sing. But R.E.M. are great musicians. Get those royalties, Bellas. Yeah. All right, guys. For the rest of the show, let's just talk about our favorite R.E.M. albums.
Starting point is 00:49:05 You go first. What's number one? right, guys. For the rest of the show, let's just talk about our favorite R.E.M. albums. You go first. What's number one? Oh, yeah. It was an R.U. talking R.E.M. to me. Yeah, there is a show. And I was a huge R.E.M. fan, and even I couldn't listen to that. Oh. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I like both of those guys, too. It's hard to listen to people talk about R.E.M. I had the guys from Vampire vampire weekend on to talk about their album but uh yeah anyways uh check out automatic for the people if you want to get into rem and new adventures in hi-fi uh hell yeah hell yeah dog i literally just got a text from her majesty from the other room who says you were right the first time nile horan like whore and then hyphen un okay majesty is added and yeah her majesty is shadow producing from the other room that's awesome hi her majesty thank you she's not gonna hear this I got headphones on oh now she's saying I can hear
Starting point is 00:50:05 I can hear you motherfucker Niall is a sweet boy I love him be nice man fuck Niall okay I don't know who Niall is I'm a Niallist do you need to take a quick break to kind of work this out
Starting point is 00:50:22 a Niallist? no no I'll take a quick break for her to smash my podcasting equipment. You believe in nothing. So, Miles, speaking of Her Majesty, you guys were doing some old 1800s-style parlor games. Yeah, I mean, I think it's really important to find ways to entertain yourselves right now, especially because it's very stressful. Trust me, I understand the stress that everyone's under from financial stress to social stress to existential stress.
Starting point is 00:50:57 It's all there. And I think it's really important, A, that we try and be as adaptable as possible and have our hearts as open as possible just to preamble to all of this i think everyone needs to be as helpful to each other right now more than ever and if you're able to help other people please do in any way you can because i think right now when our own institutions are failing to maybe provide those things at a certain extent we may have to rely on each other so i just want to begin with please open your hearts our own institutions are failing to maybe provide those things at a certain extent, we may have to rely on each other. So I just want to begin with, please open your hearts, wallets, whatever you can to be, you know, to absorb this shock with everyone as best as possible.
Starting point is 00:51:40 And I think it's really also important that we like make the best time of our time together. If we are holed up with people, you might be holed up with people you like, you might be holed up with people that you don't like. But let's try and make the best of that. Over the weekend, I got tired of watching things on TV and cooking. So Her Majesty and I were just like, okay, let's go back to basics. I was like, I have not drawn something in ages because A, I'm a terrible illustrator and I don't like to engage in things I'm not good at. But for the sake of fun, I was like, you know what? Let's revisit some of these artistic skills I had. And we came up with, it could be a game that already exists.
Starting point is 00:52:11 I don't know. But I was just like, I had one legal pad and a pen. I said, okay, 60 second portrait challenge. I would pose for her. She would have 60 seconds to draw my likeness on the page. Then I would get the pad. I would not see what she drew. I would have 60 seconds to draw my likeness on the page. Then I would get the pad. I would not see what she drew. I would have 60 seconds to draw her.
Starting point is 00:52:28 The results may shock your relationship to their core to the point that they dissolve. Her Majesty is actually decent with the pen in forms and shapes. I don't even know what you could describe my drawing portrait of her as, except for mildly offensive there i would say that maybe some uh pupils to her eyes would have been helpful if i'm just giving some tips uh yep i ran out of time something in her eye holes besides nothing in her eye holes something her eye holes yeah i i tried the you know i'll post it to my story so people can see how awful of a an illustrator i am but yeah i think games like that are just really funny because
Starting point is 00:53:13 honestly try it with anybody you'll be if you're really good you'll be impressed you'll see someone has art skills or you'll be you'll just have a good old larf. And please hit us up with any games, lo-fi, low-technology games, activities you have to sort of engage yourself. Yeah, we've been finding old funny exercise videos because I just feel I get so stir-crazy when I can't go on walks and stuff like that. So Jane Fonda's got your damn back. She's on there.
Starting point is 00:53:43 It's the horniest video in American history. Really? Yeah, my whole body hurts. I've been doing it for three days now. No, but bring it back to the horniness. What's horny about it? It's like, it's really horny. It's her in 1982.
Starting point is 00:53:58 She's wearing this skimpy outfit. And like, she's just like, it's like a, and stretch. And then like, she's like puls, it's like a, and stretch and, and then like, she's like pulsing her hips the whole time. She's like making a humping motion when the exercise doesn't even call for it. It's just all, it's, it's electric. All right. And so some news that isn't as depressing as all the other news right now is that we have a,
Starting point is 00:54:25 we do have a medical breakthrough in the realm of getting you, uh, less addicted to cocaine. Uh, and it comes from, uh, Dr. Fiona Apple.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Uh, she has a lengthy profile in the New Yorker, uh, that is a good read. Uh, we, we all have time now. so check it out uh but really early on we get this anecdote about how partying hard with quentin tarantino and paul thomas anderson got her to quit doing cocaine yeah that is though that is a very interesting one so she used to date
Starting point is 00:55:03 paul thomas anderson and actually reveals like they had a very tumultuous, like a weird relationship where he was kind of emotionally abusive and she was like drinking a lot. He partied hard. I mean, if you listen to her music from that time, it's all there, baby. Yeah. You're like, oh, okay, Paul. So because of that, you know, he's a director. Quentin's a director. That means they do coke i guess uh there's this one line that is just very very telling uh from the
Starting point is 00:55:32 new york it says she had quit cocaine years earlier after spending quote one excruciating night end quote at quentin tarantino's house listening listening to him and Anderson, Paul Thomas Anderson, brag. This is from her, quote, every addict should just get locked in a private movie theater with QT and PTA on Coke and they'll never want to do it again, end quote. I mean, it's just because
Starting point is 00:55:57 they're like turned up to an 11. It's probably fucking insufferable. Oh my God, yeah. And for people with such like really strong opinions on film and visual aesthetics and things like that i can only imagine being a bite let's probably like watching two furbies talk where you're like i don't know what they're doing and i know i don't want to be here and it's freaking me the fuck out and i don't know how to turn them off there is no clear off
Starting point is 00:56:20 switch and the doors are locked and i and i feel unsafe yeah no fiona apple is the fucking best i'm so excited i hope she releases new music early uh for for all us quarantine heads that need it she's so amazing i think the album i think the the piece is talking about an album that's like in process and might be it's about to come out it's about to come out. She said it's done. So that's exciting. So I'm like, fingers crossed. There was a lot of good press around her when Hustlers came out too because J-Lo does that amazing pole dance to Criminal at the beginning of the movie.
Starting point is 00:56:59 And she contacted someone at Vulture. She just emailed someone someone was like, hey, do you want to talk to me? And then like there was another great profile. She just seems great. She's just hanging out. She's been quarantined. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:15 It seems like she's an artist who made her art like the center of her life, which, you know, and she keeps making really good shit. This is actually somewhat reassuring to me to, because, you know, like any person who was a teenager in the nineties, I liked the movies of Quentin Tarantino and Paul Thomas Anderson, or at least any male that who was a teenager at that time. Uh, like yeah and they went whenever i would like see them interviewed or like read a feature about where a journalist like spent significant time with them they were just these like insufferable and like just kind of unidentifiable as human beings like
Starting point is 00:58:01 the way they behaved was just like so strange and uh overstimulated and i think that's actually a word from one of the profiles that i read of paul thomas anderson that's a nice way of saying on coke yeah yeah i never i was like yeah i was always like wait are are they like do they have like some is that like what you need to be like a great director you just have this like natural reservoir of uh energy or something and it turns out no they were just on cocaine like you would have thought what i would describe as insufferable enthusiasm uh they suffer from it's quite astonishing uh yeah i mean paul thomas anderson local valley scum lord so yeah yeah i yeah i'm like whatever i'm like it's whatever the other thing in that profile
Starting point is 00:58:55 i didn't realize that she had dated louis ck yeah oh yes i didn't either i've always blocked that out but that is true yeah it's I mean, read the whole piece. There's a lot, a lot, a lot of stuff in there that's a really interesting read. Yeah, she at first expected him to do some trenchant self-evaluation and come out with really interesting material following his outing as a as a creep and a sexual predator and then you know she talks about her coming to the realization that that wasn't happening uh right and yeah she's that'll happen yeah that will happen finally uh just in terms of reporting on what people are doing to kind of pass the time, I don't know, do we want to ask Zeitgang to reach out, let us know any other parlor games they're doing?
Starting point is 00:59:56 I did want to talk about Arnold Schwarzenegger, who seems to be just sitting at a small table feeding, eating carrots with his two... I love it so much. Yeah, he's with a pony named Whiskey and a donkey named Lulu. He's wearing a Terminator t-shirt.
Starting point is 01:00:15 He's in his little kitchen and he's just being like, don't go out. It's okay. Everything's fine. Don't go outside. It has to be seen to be believed. It's so good
Starting point is 01:00:25 cut to five days from now and he's spit roasting that fucking dog he's like yeah i was just fattening them up for the slaughter lulu you shouldn't have bucked me off that one time i have i have one more thing about just a quick Mensa X. Oh, this is our collab of the day is Mensa X Coronavirus. Oh, okay. Love to hear about those collabs. So they've been dunking on me like extra hard. I've been getting a lot of mean emails from them the past week since the podcast. Since your famous write-ups?
Starting point is 01:01:02 Boom. So I've been getting a lot of hate mail from them. But independently of that, they have their regional gatherings, and one was supposed to happen in Las Vegas. So this is like a couple thousand people, and they refused to cancel it. Wow. Yeah. to cancel it. Wow.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Yeah. Like they were sending out emails saying, let's see, quote, my gut tells me that we will provide food, drink, lots of drink. There'll be entertainment options,
Starting point is 01:01:34 parentheses, open mic, and speakers who are still willing to do their thing with a predictably small audience. This is a choice to attend or not attend, but I want everyone to know who's coming to town that you will not be left hanging. So like the fucking genius club is like, actually let's gather in numbers of hundreds because you know,
Starting point is 01:01:57 you're immune. I'm actually smart enough to know. I'm actually smart enough to know which expert opinions to completely ignore. Yeah. It's a rare gift. It's a rare gift it's a rare gift the last thing i mean i just think it's it did end up like having to get shut down but just so beautifully poetic that they were the last to go you see how much like people's egos are also involved in this like the idea like no one wants to i think a lot of people are looking at this the wrong way which is like oh i'm not i ain't as scared of no corones you know like i'm not gonna get the flu or whatever rather than no i'm i need to actually stay away to minimize anybody interacting and
Starting point is 01:02:36 spreading infection it's not because you are weak and like a lot of people take that i've noticed this with a lot of older people who are like i'm gonna be fine it's not that it's gonna it's going to hurt me. It's like, no, no, no, you're missing the point here. You actually need to stay inside, not because I look at you as a weak person, even though secretly low-key I do. It's not about that. It's mostly about the fact that you have to minimize your risk of exposure and spread. And I've had a really interesting time speaking to all kinds of family members about the reasons why I understand it was way tougher back in X country that you came here from. But that's not what this is. It's not a challenge of who's been through more.
Starting point is 01:03:13 It's a challenge about can we put our neighbors' safety and the community's safety as a priority and restrict our movement? Exactly. priority and restrict our movement exactly yeah there's a thing that uh the women who host night call were talking about uh that moon i think moon juice is the company that like charges uh thirteen dollars for a small thing of almond milk uh but they they were releasing or sending out mass emails or they were like uh just, you know, we are lucky enough to be people who are in control of our own immunity and can, you know, be like just basically our own immune systems. Basically, you know, the Mensa version of mindfulness, essentially, where they just believe themselves to be immune. mindfulness essentially where they just believe themselves to be immune uh and it's just yeah it's very counterproductive to community spread there was an intensely stupid uh raya announcement uh as well raya being the like whatever we're like c-list celebrities well really break down
Starting point is 01:04:24 what i mean i don't know if raya's in a lot of listeners cities but like so how do you explain i've never like raya is like you raya's basically hinged for people with a publicist essentially so like it's almost like trying to be like the the creme de la crap of the city you know like oh yeah like i work in this industry you need other people to co-sign for you to get in like it's meant to be like really exclusive and like many people in la will bitch about how they couldn't get on raya or whatever like i even had a recommendation and i would put like whatever so it's it's already that's the mentality of of raya my my yeah it's or it's like elitist by design but there was i'm trying to look for the official like because
Starting point is 01:05:05 everyone i mean i've gotten a like covet 19 message from forever 21 being like we swear we'll clean the dressing rooms this time uh we've gotten like i've gotten it from 7-eleven being like we will never close uh and but uh the raya one i saw people posting was just like, hey, we've shut down all the profiles of people over a certain age. Oh, I have it right here. Do you want me to read it? Yes, please. The ending is gorgeous. Dear members, as you know, Raya is a global community with members in each corner of the world.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Our platform seeks to enable connections across continents and creative media. In light of the COVID-19 pandemic, we are disabling international matches as of today and discouraging our community from flying both private and commercial. We've also paused memberships for users 50 plus in order to keep them safe. If you must connect, please remember these guidelines. Wash your hands frequently before and after meals, handshakes, and intimate encounters. Avoid hot tubs, jacuzzis, saunas, steam rooms, etc. Stay away from gyms and Pilates studios.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Ask your trainer to come to you instead. The CDC recommends avoiding hotels with three stars or fewer. That is the one we're going to say. Please stay safe, and we hope to see you back again soon. Oh my God. It's literally just a text that every single one of Kristen Stewart's friends got. It's just so it's fine i mean that's also like yeah like it sounds like a bit that'll eventually be on like snl like the game of this sketch is to get more and more wildly specific to one percenter lifestyle
Starting point is 01:06:39 stuff it's like yeah avoid hot tubs swedish saunas and like infrared baths it's like yeah do not go to the blah, anyway. Timothee Chalamet has been seen coughing. Maybe don't hang out with him. Yeah. Even for clout. I mean, we have managed to ignore the big story of yesterday as it relates to coronavirus, and that is the Idris Elba string of bellums.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Yeah. Yeah, shout out to him. And his wife, who I didn't know if it was his wife or his daughter. He got married. Oh, shout out. Don't you love? That's some Raya shit.
Starting point is 01:07:17 I mean, I hope that he's doing okay. That's super producer Ana Hosnia's hall pass. Yeah, yeah. Gotta keep them in good health. That definitely had reverberations through Daily Zeitgeist production when Idris Elba came down with COVID-19. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:35 You do hate to hear it. My pass used to be Scarlett Johansson. Wow. That's amazing. Well, that was actually this is pre like cancellation even pre her majesty i haven't even discussed what my past i don't think i i don't i think lola bunny now is the one right one person who has my heart oh that's fucked up
Starting point is 01:07:58 i think mine is still Will Poulter. Wow. Yeah. I thought that crush was going to die, but it is a fire that will not be extinguished. Yeah. I remember you saying this, and I get it, even though he looks like what's-his-face from Toy Story.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Sid. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But I shouldn't slander him. I believe he's also an arsenal fan so shout out to will polter he is he is oh he is you know this yeah i don't know what it means but i know that's true wait you you've read up enough about him to even possibly gain this knowledge everything about will polter and then three weeks ago isaac was sitting next to him at a bar and was just like we i found out that Will Poulter is actually
Starting point is 01:08:46 too accessible to us because he goes to a bar near our house where beer costs $4. Don't know. Scary. Scary times for Isaac. Scary. Well, Jamie,
Starting point is 01:09:02 it's been a pleasure having you here today with us. where can people find you follow you you can you can find me on uh twitter at jamie left his help you can find me on instagram at uh jamie christ superstar bechdel cast still coming out baby uh every thursday and um yeah maybe every Thursday. And yeah, everyone in your area, check out and see if there is a mutual aid effort going on. I just learned about the one in my area yesterday. If you can give a little money, you can donate a little food,
Starting point is 01:09:35 or if you're able to like drive stuff places, depending on what your area and state of health is, could be helpful. There's like some docs where they're listed by region and that's those are the words i wanted to say all right uh and is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying um maybe come back to me i've only faved depressing ass stuff okay miles where can people find you And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray on the PlayStation network at miles of gray. I'll probably be trying to play some more video games, uh, to in, in these
Starting point is 01:10:15 dark times. Uh, you can also find me on my other podcast for 20 day fiance that I host with Sophia Alexandra. Look, y'all got time? Get into 90 Day Fiance. Join me on the trash ride. That is that show. In terms of tweets that I like, a couple. This one was pretty funny over the weekend. It's from Rachel McCartney
Starting point is 01:10:35 at Rachel M Comedy. September 2021. The pandemic is over, but nothing will ever be the same. The virus wiped out half our parents and we had to say goodbye over skype but today groups are allowed to gather again and stand-up comedy returns the first comedian takes the mic so dating's been hard
Starting point is 01:10:54 um and a few uh more uh another one is from uh uh where is she at alissa limp paris former guest at alissa limp uh i picked a hell of a time to have not learned how to cook for the past 29 years and then the last one we didn't really talk about the debate uh because uh these are trying times we'll get to debate covers in a second but from jamie loftus you tweeted something very funny that i love there was a moment on the on the debate stage um where there was a lot of uh bernie was cornering joe biden on a few things one was sort of like oh so you never uh supported uh cuts to medicaid and social security he's like oh no and the way bernie like scoffed at him it looked like two 14 year olds having a fight like oh you never said that
Starting point is 01:11:43 okay guys go to the youtube right fucking now and search joe biden medicare cuts the shit's right there you're gonna fucking take an l joe uh but i don't know how many people were actually watching the debate the other day the other moment was talking about super packs where bernie was saying look joe you got some super packs going joe biden to bernie's like oh yeah well you've got like nine super packs uh and he was like no i don't uh and then this is this tweet from jamie she tweeted here the here here the bernie's nine super packs biden is talking about asterisk takes off top reveals nine thick nipples dripping pennies thank you for the signal boost there's i i honestly i just wanted i would i would buy that as a poster hell yeah uh i think i found i think i found a tweet this is it's more of an idea than
Starting point is 01:12:34 a tweet but i have found a lot of comfort in cursed caroline calloway content uh the past couple of days she's days. She's in a Twitter feud with Roxane Gay. I don't know why, but it's just something to do is watch Caroline Calloway and Roxane Gay fight with each other about from what I can tell, literally
Starting point is 01:12:57 nothing. I recommend going over to either of their profiles. They're both way too online in times of crisis. And it's very entertaining. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Miss United Face at Miss United Face tweeted the TikTok of Kristen Chenoweth going around cleaning her house for the camera in a very fun, musical way on TikTok.
Starting point is 01:13:28 And he tweeted, we need a rescue mission for all the personal assistants trapped in quarantine with their celebrity clients to film their coronavirus content, which is a real bummer. A real bummer. And then Graham Clark tweeted a picture that Eminem put out there of himself in like a black leather jacket with a black t-shirt overlooking New York City and looking really tough. And he tweeted, this fall on NBC, martial law. It really looks like a law and order. Wait, instead of Marshall Mathers?
Starting point is 01:14:08 Yeah. Oh, my God. I do love it. Yeah. It's good content. And we need content at this time. Am I right, guys? At this time of corona content.
Starting point is 01:14:23 I want everyone to just keep a soft spot in your heart whenever you see a comedian going live on Instagram. They're really going through it. There's going to be a lot of comedians going live on Instagram. And here's the thing. Most of it's not going to be very good. You got to just... I want Chris Crofton to stream Poetry Corner.
Starting point is 01:14:43 That's what I want. Oh, yeah. Oh, hell yeah. I'll have tofton to stream Poetry Corner. That's what I want. Oh, yeah. Oh, hell yeah. I'll have to, like, force him to go. We'll have to force him to go live with one of us, too. Yeah. Doing streams. Crofton, name your price.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Yeah. Yeah, we should probably, yeah, we'll get Crofton to give us some YouTube pics every day. Oh, that would be great. Yeah. You can find me on Twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes
Starting point is 01:15:16 where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on, Miles. What song are we going to ride out on today? I think we just need light music. We need bright music. We need to feel like Desmond when he was down in the hatch. This is a track called Thinking by The Meters from New Orleans. Great band.
Starting point is 01:15:42 I've recommended their music before, but you could just run through their catalog, and it's very uplifting, bright. love and support and positivity to everybody out there it's it's going to be a hard couple of weeks months uh but we just you know let's all stick together let's stay positive and hopefully we can spread light to each other because we might we might be all we got for a minute for a little bit. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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