The Daily Zeitgeist - Rent IS In Fact Too Damn High, What “Looking Presidential” Means 07.26.24

Episode Date: July 26, 2024

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that's pretty interesting because i think people don't talk enough about how eminem is the greatest rapper of all time well right to white people definitely yeah like like secretly and white people are like oh no i also like kendrick lamar yeah yeah he's very uh marshall-esque you know he's very mathurian but they don't talk about like you know that that song whatever that one about I got throw up on my sweater whatever that song is knees weak mom spaghetti there's vomit on my sweater already

that is like the unofficial like fucking white that's like the white venture capitalist national anthem it's all about a pitch to get VC funding every fucking like peter teal like right before jd vance got nominated was like listening to that in his fucking car uh it's like it's it's like it's very significant and so yeah i think why i think certain like white gen xers are definitely like really like eminem, like he's fucking man.

But I don't I don't not I'm not part of that. I like. Yeah, no, I get the last time I really checked in with Eminem is when he was in the parking garage about Trump. And he's orange. Yeah. Oh, that like freestyle rap. I got him off the door hinge and he's orange. He's orange.

Flapping around like a babkin. Oh, my God. Three little bears trying to find the perfect porch. And he's orange. Is that where that rhyme came from? Well, I don't even know. Do you do porridge out of these? I just wanted to hear that. He got real stuck on, there was a thing

early on where it was like, can't rhyme anything with orange. What are you talking about? You can do porridge, door hinge. Well, listen to you guys. All I've had is one banana so far to eat today. Do you think that's enough? Like, cause I just woke up like recently.

I think that's enough for the show. And I'm just going to get a couple of cold brew and I'm ready to go. I think that's fine. I'm not going to have a brain wipe for one banana. Am I? Should I have another banana? No, not on Mike.

Um, no, no, but you think it's a good idea to have that? I won't. I'm going to eat bananas for the whole show during this.

I've done worse. I've done worse. Being 20 feet away from my laptop microphone was way worse than eating bananas. Chris Cross didn't record this from inside a well. Standing outside with my microphone confidently talking into nothing that is something that we're actually pitching around is getting a baby jessica now grown up recording from inside

a well that's a good idea you've since been one up to though chris um in terms of like the audacity that people have i still think that guy who called in from like a work orientation inside of like a lecture hall was by far the worst thing we've ever experienced. Yeah. There was like a work. Yeah. Work intake orientation. He was just trying to make it work.

And I was like, bro, you should have just canceled. Yeah. Oh, I see. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, you're never going to catch me having to multitask at a conference as far as I know. I don't see that in my future. You, you're never going to catch me having to multitask at a conference, as far as I know. I don't see that in my future. You don't see a TED Talk coming up for you? I don't. Maybe, you know, maybe, you know.

Hey, Bread Talks with Chris. Dude, Bread Talks. Chris Profit. Yeah, I got a lot of nonprofit ideas up my sleeve. I debuted it on Bread X, but I think I'm ready for the Bread Talk circuit. Yeah. I could do that, you know. Yeah, I could do that. You know, actually, I already do that.

Yeah. You just need a stage. I think Chris, we just recontextualize you talking, but we put a big red sign that says bread, like the Ted talk logo. And you just place back and forth. Oh, that's another thing I'll do. Okay. I'll do that too. You're overwhelming Chris. I'll do. Okay, I'll do that too. Miles, we're numbers out on the list.

You're overwhelming Chris with this pitch. Hi, Chris. I've only had one banana. We're just going to go to the next slide on the deck. That's so funny. Thank you, Chris. A new hairstyle for you. Picturing somebody getting pumped up to pitch to

Peter Thielal listening to oh dude you can totally hear someone sniffing cocaine in their fucking honda before too just blasting that shit hey babe oh man oh it's kind of crazy i'm just thinking about you babe so much about how much fun we had it's kind of crazy right he'm just thinking about you, babe, so much. Thinking about how much fun we had. It's kind of crazy, right? He's going to love this app idea. It's like Tinder for young people to sell their blood to tech billionaires. I love you, babe. Wish me luck.

I'm not going to let this one slip. That's fucking funny. Tinder. That's fucking funny. That's fucking good. That's good. That's a good bit. That'd be a fun bit to do forever, actually. You know what I mean? Forever.

You know what I mean, though? Like, just to go on and on with that. Like, a million ideas and just keep playing that. Just do that as a show every day. Yeah. I mean, that is fucking fun. Alright, babe, new app idea. That's such a good idea.

Just new app ideas with that music behind it. Your diary new app idea. I should have my nose bleeding. I fucking need to invent an app that chops your cocaine up more finally. I'm on my way to a meeting. I'm on my way to a meeting.

Got boulders falling out of my nostrils. They're on my payroll that can't say no to me, but I'm still hyping myself up like I'm doing some big pitch. You know what I mean? Peter Thiel being like, I gotta nail this. And everybody in the boardroom's like, whatever he says, we have to say yes. Yeah, you know, we're all scared to shit. You know what I mean?

They're gonna love this idea. Oh, we love it. We love it. Oh, I knew it. I fucking knew it. Fucking knocked it out. I haven't even started the pitch yet. Stop clapping. You know what?

You're fucking fired, sycophant. Get the fuck out. Yeah, I didn't even buy a sweater yet. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Fucking Eminem would be so proud of me. I'm going to call Eminem. Eminem, bro, is so proud of me.

Eminem has to take so many calls from tech billionaires oh yeah marshall i got an idea for you is that my song on the background maybe it is oh my bad let me turn that down turn that off hector caller turn your radio down caller you need to turn your radio down. Caller, you need to turn your radio down. Servants! Hey, M, have you ever summited K2? It's like, oh, God. Why do they always want to do that? You ever summited K2 high on cocaine? Fucking going to do Everest without fucking oxygen, man.

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and uh i don't know it's not our fault blood's not on our hands i'm thrilled to be joined it's only picked up steam after everybody debunked it people are like nah this guy has the couch fuckingest energy of all time yeah we're just going to run with it. You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea. I'm thrilled to be joined as always. This is something from Medgar Evers. Sorry to even attribute that to J.D. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Oh, thank you so much.

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We need some sectional healing, baby. You know what I mean? Yeah, man. I'm oiling up my glove, baby. I can't hold it much longer. Fucking Zach Vandos. Beautiful contribution. Thank you for that.

What was the last time we saw a story where everyone was like, oh, that's a fake story, and then it picked up steam? I can't really remember another example. The election was actually won by Donald Trump. Yeah, yeah. I guess on that side and yeah that's just what we're seeing now is that we're just all openly being like yeah the internet is a writer's room where we're just like workshopping i feel like yeah elon's the

elon musk is the kind of guy who also has that energy where it's like even if something isn't true everyone will just keep calling him whatever the dumb joke of the day thing is yeah but yeah i don't know this one like this one is so consequential in a weird way that it's just fucking hilarious and yeah i'm loving every loving every second uh hey speaking of loving every second we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests a hilarious stand-up comedian actor musician you can listen to his podcast cold brew got me like anywhere fine podcasts are given away for free his book the advice king anthology is available the poetry window is open because it's Chris motherfucking

Crofter! Chris Crofter! Hey, what's up? Oh, Chris. Oh, Chris. What a time we just had. Oh, boy. I was going to say, right when I came in here, I forgot almost.

I got my AKA. All in all, we're just another brick in the Chris Crofton. There it is. There it is. I mean, it was just sitting right there all alone. And I wrote that. And you wrote that.

That was an original? Uh-huh. Damn. Let me do another one. How about another one? I'll see you on the dark side of the Chris Crofton. Of the brew? Oh, shit.

I just keep... Dark side of the brew, yeah. Yeah. No, no. You're trying to punch it up. Yeah. Yeah. But it's no use.

It's no use, man. How are you doing? I just got, you know, I'm just doing so many... Big it's no use energy? I'm doing so many things that don't pay that I just am exhausted. And, yeah, I can't. I don't have time to do the AKAs right that I should, you know. Like, I mean, I don't know how to write the good ones.

You know what I mean? Like, I'm trying to think of it. I can think of another one. You know, they're fun to do. You know, I wish I had. I can't think of another one. Chris Crofton just likes to have fun. You're standing here on the shoulders of giants.

Crofton! Just wanna have fun. Girls just wanna have fun with Chris Crofton. Yeah. Cause Chris Crofton wanna have fun. Yeah, exactly. I'm too tired to do the proper work on the AKAs. Crofton! He's a blast.

Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash. We're just going to keep doing Pink Floyd. Oh, yeah, totally. One of the first bass lines I learned how to play when I was teaching myself how to play bass. Cold brew! Yeah.

Cold brew! Just change all the words to cold brew. I didn't have any other words at all. Oh, my God. And then ring a bell. just change all the words to cold brew i didn't have any other words at all oh my god and then ring a bell uh i'm when you run out of content yeah what uh what are you singing cold brew over the tune of money what have i been up to he i have been fucking losing my shit basically uh getting uh super depressed from reading the news like trying to recalibrate

my whole like life a little bit like i've basically been in a midlife crisis where you sort of figure out that making music and writing poetry on twitter doesn't pay and um and you uh one of those two things i knew um but uh you can guess which one i knew but one of them i thought i might you know maybe you know you watch enough behind the music as a kid and you know you start to think maybe yeah maybe i could also have a private jet and vomit all the time and have handlers which i think i've talked about on the show how that was like really attractive to me right yeah like if you can't if you don't have a prop if you like if your family fails you you can have handlers you know get a big enough drug and alcohol problem and you're signed to like a major label then they issue you like a family of

like bodyguards keep them alive and then yeah and like just makes you like stop like instead of going to like rehab or anything or like getting your shit together you just are constantly being blocked from doing drugs physically by like a karate guy i just always thought that was so awesome like this guy's like kicking cocaine out of your way like and you're just grabbing for it they're like no no you know get out of my way fucking steve get out of my way then they end up like then they end up like this is the best part because i figured this would be me like i would get a handler issued to me by epic records or whatever and they're like listen this guy will not stop doing drugs anything anybody hands him this crofton guy he's like out of control he had that hit you know where he did

sang cold brew instead of money to the sound of that to the pink floyd song i don't know how it became a hit it's like a gangnam style type thing yeah anyway he's a huge he's a huge star now and everybody's just trying to hand him drugs because that's what happens as soon as you get famous everybody just wants to give you drugs so he won't stop doing them so you have to just kick him out of the way and you have to yeah but then i'm so fucking charming that the karate guy ends up relaxing yes yes i wanted to be that guy i wanted to be that guy listen i went to like kind of like like in apocalypse went to like, kind of like in Apocalypse Now where the guy goes and like, I don't know, or something where you're supposed to like go murder somebody and then you end up just like being their friend instead and being like, gosh, I see things your way.

I was going to be that guy. Yeah. But instead. Yeah. Are you a Kennedy fan? Are you into the Kennedys at all? The family? Yeah.

The family. Yeah. I'm doing a Kennedy show and there's a crazy story where like the jfk's like college best friend high school best friend like all along was like with jfk like one of his like right hand hand man like was put in charge of like keeping rfk jr and his brothers like clean and they actually got him hooked on heroin like as like a 50 something yeah he didn't know karate and i think that was the problem yeah that's the kind of charisma i thought i had yeah i was like that's what i wanted to see how that worked i wanted to see if you know if they could they just keep throwing them at me too too. You know what I mean?

They'll be like, oh, well, that guy's done. That guy's done now. Oh, shit. That Green Beret guy started doing heroin, too? Fuck! Crofton, keep on crofting away. We hired Arlie Emery. Arlie Ermey? Ermey? Yeah. What's the matter with you,

Crofton? Michael Flynn will be my guy. It's so good michael flynn yeah yeah yeah michael flynn you could spend 24 hours with michael flynn and just like get him hooked on whatever he's already hooked up what am i saying whatever you want to hell yeah he's rabid yeah exactly okay so like what happens is, I've been calling it a midlife crisis, which, and somebody, some friend of mine pointed out, like, what are you going to do? You're going to live to be 110? You know, I was like, okay. Hey, fuck you. I get it, I get it. Okay, fine, just a crisis then.

Right. so yeah i'm just like trying to like i'm trying to get a job at a a rehab place to uh be a um like a greeter or like a someone who acclimates new patients to a place like i'm trying to get a job that is not just sitting around like fucking yeah waiting to get famous and because it's so boring like that's the thing is even if you do even if you did get famous no wonder everybody's out of their minds and like you know trying to like seduce their judo masters into doing cocaine with them or whatever. Everybody's doing it. Because they're bored out of their fucking mind because they only have to play like one hour a day and the rest of the day they just lose their shit and like try and think of diabolical ways to spend the time. And anyway, I'm like just realizing that you don't have to do one or the

other like i can have a job yeah like a normal job and not be like you know where you actually help people yeah or something where you i've heard something who do that yeah i mean i'm not there yet i'm just trying i'm trying i'm making steps you know and i got this new therapist who's so funny oh my god really yeah he's an addiction counselor but he's not a licensed therapist but he's running a therapy he just has a addiction counselor thing and i'm not even i didn't even go to him for that like i just got he got recommended to me and i found out he's an addiction counselor and he just is like you know addiction counselors have to be like well you better cut that out you know so he says that about everything like about

family stuff. Like I'm like, my dad's a nightmare. He's like, sounds like you've got to put him down, you know? And I'm like, what? So it's kind of fun. And he's a dude. And I prefer female therapists because I was raised by my mother primarily. And she's nice.

You know, she's a good, she's a good one. She's a good one. Yeah, she's a good cop. So I like one she's a good one yeah she's a good cop so i like to go to a woman therapist because i feel more comfortable and and so i'm like into this guy and and and i'm like into like the idea that we're not getting along that well either because he like in the beginning but then the last couple of meetings we started to get along because i kind of like him he's just got a goatee that's all he has just a goatee no mustache just a bald shave ball just a freaking goatee yeah just a chin bald everywhere else kind of like unbelievable like i'm like that's a strong i feel totally dominated yeah that's what i mean it's a strong look i'm like well okay who i know who's

in charge in this room you're like i guess i gotta put my dad down he said so yeah i know this is i know who's the alpha in this room damn yeah anyway he's like i said what kind of music do you like because i see tattoos poking out from under his sleeves yeah i saw one i knew because i knew something was up like i knew he put me and him we're gonna connect somehow marshall mathers do you like he's like man have you heard the new emin? He goes, man, I like grunge. What? Okay. And there was just something amazing about that. I was like, I like that, too.

I like grunge, too. Like, now I trust you. Yeah. Yeah. And then we're serious. Next thing we're talking about, what a shame it was. Fully opened my heart. We're talking about Scott Weiland.

And then I was like, wait a minute. I'm paying for this. Yeah. He's like making your brain. Scott Weiland was a talented, I'm paying for this. Yeah, yeah. I talked about Scott Wyland. Scott Wyland was a talented guy. No question about it. Chris, you mind listening to my demo, man? Yeah, the two of us

just start doing four-track recordings while I'm paying for it. Anyway, so that's what's going on with me. I'm trying to realize, like, I'm going to talk about it in other parts of it, so it doesn't matter. But one of the things I said, one of the things I've set up for overrated and underrated is about this sort of thing. Perfect.

All right. Well, Chris, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of the things that we're talking about on today's episode. Maybe. Maybe not. So, J.D. Vance, we're just going to continue to talk about jd vance where what's going on they did debunk the story on wednesday yesterday the story took off after being officially debunked by every like major media outlet it just like took off everyone was

like nah we we think there's there's the spirit of truth to this one. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the conspiracy theory that Biden is dead, which continues to not go away, and how Hollywood has warped our image of the presidency. Maybe even a new theory that a fan has for why Donald Trump keeps bringing up Hannibal Lecter. All of that, plenty more. But first, Chris Crofton, we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history okay it's the minnesota public tv youtube oh nice another new youtube and man it is minnesota public television i mean they're just doing the thing that wgbh in boston does it too where they're kind kind of like just re airing all these old features they did in the seventies and eighties, like on their YouTube.

Okay. And like, it just, sometimes they'll, they'll just take parts of reports, even news reports. They did like, there's a, there's a report on there from nightlife where guys just goes to like all these like bars in 1980s Minneapolis. And it's just so fun, you know? And he's just like fun, you know? And he's just, like, in them. And he's like, here's the nightlife on whatever avenue it is. He's like, this is the avenue where everybody goes out,

so I'm just going to walk around in my members-only jacket and, like, with a microphone and, like, talk about bars and, like, go to TGI Fridays and stuff. And it's just great. Anyway, they do a lot of stuff like that. But there's one particular thing. Like, not even local bars. even local bars like just like hey we're at the tj fridays well just yeah whatever he's just like here's what's going on on at bennegan's yeah like no one like no one was like posting videos from those bars back then you actually had to go in and like find out what and no yeah oh and that's i don't know who Who knows? Because I remember, because this is the same,

this feels like in the same vibe when you were watching all that like mob news footage because it's so like, it's just like texture too. You know what I mean? Like that we don't have because everything is fucking recorded now. It's like, wait, dude,

I need to see video of 1980s bars in Minnesota now. And now you get like a really nice peek into that. I love it. I love it because it's a very different world that i did live through a little bit of it and i'm not saying it was better it was pretty boring i mean you know i mean and there's a lot more crimes everybody had to go out of the house and just cause trouble the past the time yeah so like there was no you know you had to go out just out of the house and just dress up and be like well let's see what happens you know

and uh and that's like not really better, but it is more adventure. There's more adventure involved. Right. I mean, it's definitely safer now because you can stay home and just door dash and Tinder or whatever. I mean, you can just order boyfriends and sushi and whatever else, which is fine. Three boyfriends and one sushi, please. How about eight boyfriends and no sushi? Am I right?

The dangerous internet. So that, you know, that's what's interesting to me is like this was like sort of a wild west of payphones and I mean, that still blows my mind that like if you couldn't get to a payphone, you were basically dead. Someone could die. I mean, that was it. You know, you were just like

I died 40 yards away from a pay phone. I couldn't get there. I was just thinking of how, like, I was talking to somebody about how I remember when I had to used to have a calling card number memorized. So I could make a, like, if I didn't have change, I could make a call from a pay phone. Oh, so you had LATD? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I died of a treatable disease because I didn't have a dime. Right. Slumped over't have a dime. Right.

Slumped over in the phone booth. Right. Or it was out of order. Like you get in there and you're like, finally a phone. And there's no receiver. It's like ripped off. And you're just like, okay, it's over. So anyway, this is what this is about.

It's this movie called Shinders to Shinders, a surreal portrait of hennepin avenue now hennepin avenue was like the red light district of minneapolis i've got this right like minneapolis was uh minnesota right that's right yeah right yeah yeah yeah because i always want to call it minneapolis wisconsin i don't know why but um but it just sounds better to me i cannot get it through my fucking head but uh because it's like like the part of minnesota is in the word anyways i also don't know where minneapolis is like when i've been in minneapolis i'm like we're up north like i'm like totally insane like i don't look at the map i thought we were near arizona i don't look at the map ever i'm like i thought we were somewhere near oklahoma like that's seriously

what happens when i'm right they're like dude we're almost in canada minneapolis is supposed to be a great city i think i say this a lot on the show, but like the, we were there for, I want to move there. We were there for like a day. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I remember Hannah and I,

we went to the Hennepin County courthouse. No way. Oh, cool. Did you? What was I doing? Just sleeping? Yeah.

That, cause I think at the time you're like, bro, I do not get to sleep with kids. Jack finds out he has no friends right now. Oh yeah. What was I doing? I don't know, dude.

I think we were at Taco John's and he said he didn't want to go or something. We went axe throwing, too. It was a pretty fun day. Pretty nice little Saturday. Sorry. There's bike lanes and all sorts of cool shit. Yeah. No, no no same with

madison the only problem is it's like frozen like nine months out of the year that's why it's like full of like no one wants to go there even venture you know venture capitalists will leave it alone like private equity is like it's too cold for us to like ruin our money doesn't work there for some reason seriously i'm not kidding you want to stay where it's eventually where it's uninhabitable is the only place that private equity won't go. Like Nashville has been totally made over just because these guys ostensibly like live music and quotes, which is not even true. They just like to be standing near it while they do. They want a Google cluster. That's why they're there.

They think they like Nashville. They don't even know what they like. They just like fucking the, you know, like taking pictures and your stuff. Google clusters. That's why they're there. They think they like Nashville. They don't even know what they like. They just like fucking the, you know, like taking pictures and your stuff. And like, like Kim Jong-un, like they just stand next to like a band and go, I, me like music. I also like music and I like taking over the world, but also I'm into the arts. Capitalist caveman. Yeah.

I mean, that's what Nashville suffering from and they won't go to the North. So that's where we got to go. We all got to go to Minneapolis. Hell yeah. And seriously. Won't be cold for too much longer. I went to Eau Claire on that tour with Neil Hamburger. Yeah.

That was one of the stops. Man, oh man. That place is like stuck in the 1960s. It's got coin operated freaking parking meters. And I was like, this is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about. is what i'm talking about i'm not kidding i'm so sick of barcodes i mean if you have to i just spit all my microphone if you have to use a barcode to park if you have to scan anything to park or put in your email to park

that's when you move that's when you move out of town if you've not gone crazy you keep if you have not you though i would i would be fucked well you eventually did i've always got a fat pocket his pants are always falling down this is always a 70 bucks in change in his pocket just a habit i have just jangling around town dude is your hip okay you got a growth there oh no it's a bunch of quarters just left over from the 80s i always keep a fat pocket of change on me so anyway this this movie is uh is called whatever i said it was called uh and uh it's called uh hinge what's called uh what time i had it then no shinders to shinders a surreal portrait of hennepin avenue so hennepin avenue is like this little red light district like a block long where all the cool

shit was like adult bookstores and and like red light things and a block long where all the cool shit was like adult bookstores and and like red light things and also just like bars and also just a lot of people standing out on the street looking for trouble you know like and and sex workers and but but like it was everybody said basically like this is where it was a cool place to go because you never knew what was going to happen like you know there are bad parts to it i'm sure and that's what i'm saying this is all you know this is all relative like but but it was an action packed block. And so they made a musical. These two dudes and a poet made a short film where they had their friends like who are dancers. peep shows in the pinball arcade dancing around, and they had a voiceover from a black poet who's just reading about, like, about writing a poem about Hennepin Avenue. And his voiceover is happening while these people are doing dances in the actual locales.

Oh, yeah. It's the edge. Whoa, this is wild. Down on Hennepin. It's fucking incredible. whoa this is wild down on Hennepin down on when was it made uh

83 maybe or something like that so there's two features there's a feature they made a documentary about the making of this movie and that's what I watched first and then I watched the movie and they're both badass and the whole thing is like okay the punch line or not the punch line but the most amazing thing of all which made me want to bring it on here was these guys made this short film you know this is the kind of thing where no phones involved they had to make this happen they were like i want to

see people dance not on tiktok i want to choreograph a freaking thing with my friends. Not on TikTok because it's 1982. Yeah, we're not doing this on TikTok. Let me just say up front, not on TikTok. I'm sorry, Randy, what's TikTok? Why don't you shut up, okay? Well, it was before Eminem made that song, so nobody knew how to do anything. So when the Eminem of his time, Prince, was just coming up in Minneapolis. Okay, fantastic documentary on the same channel.

Absolutely fantastic documentary. Also made by that local public television, which is obviously well-funded, but their stuff is not seen nationally. It's a documentary about First Avenue. The whole history of First Avenue, the club. The one from Purple Rain? Yes, and it's unbelievable. And there's even a part where they talk about when Purple Rain came out, people were calling up First Avenue because they thought it was where Prince lived and leaving messages for him, and they played one of them.

And it was like all these women calling up being like, Hey, Prince. When they were calling First Avenue, the music club, they were just being like, give me a call back when you get a chance. Hey, Prince, it's Jack O'Brien. For real. Where do they sell, like, raspberry berets? For real.

So people saw that movie. It still blows my mind. It's like the people who call phone numbers in movies, you know, and try and talk to the characters. No, they told me 818-555-2255. This is the number, Mom. Someone saw Purple Rain or a bunch of people saw that and decided that's where prince lived is in that club so anyway that that's a great documentary he kind of did yeah i guess he was showing up but they talk about they interview

they interview uh like soul asylum and the the bands that were doing like you know the replacements and things but they didn't interview the replacements in that but but anyway soul asylum guy was like he didn't like when prince came around because he was like he he's acting like he owned the place he's like what's in retrospect he did yeah he was too cool who is this guy i mean he think he is a rock star about this other rock star way too cool yeah basically he's like he's ruining he really was like he would come through when i was playing my gig and i would just feel like an idiot and uh and uh you know, appropriately.

So, but anyway, it's a great documentary, really great about first Avenue and anybody who's into music would love it. It's very deep and has, it's just anyway, same people from the filmmakers behind shinders to shinders, a different filmmaker.

I think there's also a great one about, about Minneapolis is skid row where the, this guy who was a bartender on skid row in Minneapolis, because every city had him back then, where they had the single room occupancy hotels where people lived in the chicken wire above the... It was like... You know what I'm talking about. Those hotels that were like 10 bucks a night, and then there were all these bars around them, and they were the classic skid row from the 60s 50s 40s yeah anyway a documentary by the guy who was a bar a bar owner down there who shot all his customers and all the stuff that happened on the street and that's that's and and then narrated it well there's also another cool one i'm looking at here like about

like anti-racist skinheads in minneapolis it's so cool it's so cool i dead seriously recommend what this is not a joke i'm recommending this and this then this shinders the shinders thing the end i'll tell i'm taking too long this is a we got to get to this jd vance character we do we do fucking asshole yeah we haven't talked about him up to this point on every single episode piece of fucking shit but oh yeah so these guys made this movie and they show it get a load of this they show it like gorilla style on a cigarette billboard oh wow unannounced at night and cause a traffic jam oh that's amazing they put up huge speakers on the street and everyone stopped their cars to watch this short film

that's amazing you imagine showing a short film anywhere no people telling you to just get out of their way you know what i mean like hey look i'm showing a short film fuck off get out of my fucking way now it's like get out of my way i'm shooting a tiktok of myself exactly what a short film why didn't you make it a long film get the fuck out of my way so anyway just like i can't even imagine but here's the best part the king of sweden was in town for some reason and like they interviewed him after he was in he was king of sweden was there for some frederick event friday he happened to see the goddamn projection of the fucking he was in the traffic jam so he goes this after his like

official state visit they said what was your favorite part and he's like when they showed that movie on that cigarette billboard yeah wow what was your favorite part about america he's like that fucking movie the least american billboard possible anyway it's just a beautiful beautiful thing and it's really weird man and it's inspiring as shit and minneapolis is cool it's cool it's super multicultural and fucking just it just feels like a city still it doesn't feel like a hashtag or whatever the hold steady that album separation sunday about minneapolis is oh yeah that's a hell of an album yeah highly recommend that yeah i i just feel like people need to like get away from all this QR code stuff and just try to find somewhere where it has to be. We just arrived at it.

I did not realize it, but it has to be somewhere freezing. Yes. It has to be really cold. Because fucking private equity. Private equity money. Yeah. Seriously. And QR code scanners don't work there.

They want to go comfortable places. They don't want to do their evil in the freezing cold. Yeah, it's funny. That one guy, Sam Bankman Freed, he was like all about, you know, preparing for the

climate apocalypse that's coming. But then he like bought an island that was going to be like completely impossible to live on in five years.

Yeah, he just can't deal with being cold. He fucking deserves it, yeah. He gets out to his private island and he gets attacked by snakes immediately. Just overcome by snakes. Has his eyes packed out by seabirds. Let's take a quick break.

We'll come back and we'll do an Overrated Underrated. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers,

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because I'm realizing that high rent is a trick. It's not good. Well, it's a trick also. Yeah, it's terrible. Like, that's why it's sort of funny. It's underrated. But go on, what do you mean? Silly.

But I was just trying to think of like, why does like the real taco place get replaced by a taco place that's part of a corporate chain? How does that happen? Like there's a functioning taco place that people like, and then it is removed because the rent gets too high, and then is replaced by a chain taco place. So it's not even like, subtle. It's like, oh, we're just replacing this taco place with a taco place that's like publicly traded so we can so we can like leverage it there's no fun to have a taco place that's a standalone family business because you can't leverage it yeah yeah so like go market what happens is the corporate landlords hike their rent first they hype a town first they hype a town artificially which is what happened in nashville they put they hire publicists and they plant pieces in new york times and wherever else like all over the place and just say nashville is the most fun place ever and it's super inclusive and all this shit that's not and and then you and then they hype it and then and then people started coming here before there was any stuff and i know this for a fact because

i would i was working in places where they would come in and say, like, where is the stuff? And it was like, no, you're here too early. You read the hype pieces, but the stuff's not here yet. This is a. Where's the grocery store? Nah, you're about three years early. This is like reverse engineering or forward engineering. I don't know how to describe it, but they said the things were there before they were there.

People started coming and then they got filled in. But they attracted all kinds of capital by doing this. And that capital raises the rent and all the other landlords who are mom and pop landlords say, oh, we got to raise the rent then. But when they do that,

they don't understand that they're sowing the seeds of their own destruction, these mom and pop landlords, too. Because it's really a replacement. What high rent does is it enables corporations to put every single local business out of business and replace them with the exact same businesses, except they have them. And it never occurred to me because I just didn't understand that. I was like, why is this totally fine, successful business being put out of business for the

same business? Yeah. Except just an inferior one. A worse one that has VC funding. Yeah. And those taco places, man, are a good example. Like we have all these taco places. Like that's like the main dystopian business.

I don't know why. I mean, yeah. With so many areas gentrifying like that, like in downtown, like in littlekyo there's so many of these japanese restaurants that are just going like they're not going out of business because no one's patronizing them they're going out of business because the landlords are like this dude said he could open up a weed dispensary and give me seven times the rent you do right so we're gonna do that so it comes down to landlords doing an active resistance basically i mean and and it's not gonna happen but it could be something to at least talk about. Landlords are pretty cool.

They're usually pretty cool. They're always open to talking about making less money. They're pretty open to conversations about how they should make less money. Yeah. No, but that is the thing. Until like regular landlords say, we're not going along with this just because the market rate all of a sudden is four times what it used to be that doesn't mean that i can't just charge the old rent and be okay because it's not like property taxes went up four

times this is just an art of this is a bubble yeah created for them to replace an entire town yeah that's my i just hadn't quite figured it out what was the name of the taco place that closed down well i don't know one that i i Well, I don't know one particular one. I just wasn't sure if you were really speaking. This is all made up. This is all made up. I don't even know of any of the concepts. I just said out loud, hold.

Everything natural is going fine. Yeah, I saw. Some cool people were in town with their flags. Chris talks shit about it for clicks. Talk that shit. I can tell you the names of the taco places that have popped up well i can tell you about one business which nobody liked here called calypso cafe but i loved it and it was just like where i stayed about that before you i doubt i maybe black bean salads

whatever it was just like this and everyone who worked there was like you know that shit's all trash and i was like i don't care i don't care it's like maybe i'm trash it's not wendy's you know what i mean it was like lettuce and black beans and they're, we sip those through an old shoe or whatever back behind the counter. I was like, I don't care. I don't care. Just don't tell me. So like I would eat these healthy things. So Calypso Cafe goes out of business because, and it wasn't doing badly.

And it was replaced by this place called the Velvet Taco. Are you guys familiar with this chain? Oh yeah, there's a Velvet Taco. Yeah. Yeah. The Velvet Taco. First of all, that's a name that's slang for that's that's sex slang there was pink taco right pink tacos there was like a global taco chain that was just like a sex joke there's still pink taco like there's one on sunset i feel like still there was one and i remember in century city and

i'm like what the fuck is this? And then it went away very quickly. And it's not even like a taco place. It's like they have all this, like, you know, it's like a taco. It's like Coyote Ugly, but they have tacos in there. Yeah, and they put, like, tacos, like, they're like, I mentioned this in my new advice column that comes out next week, but it's like, it's about, you know, they put, like, strudel in the taco.

You know what I mean? They put, like, fucking, you know. Right, right my my stupid joke was they put zoloft zoloft tacos you know like they don't they just don't we're disrupting tacos you know what if we put captain crunch in a taco and called it a breakfast taco you know and that's what's going on and it's like not only is it fucking just fucking just gross and dystopian it makes everybody sad because no one wants a captain crunch taco and it makes everybody fucking sad but it also makes me sad to see a 50 foot high sign that says fucking velvet taco where i used to be able to get a normal meal that kept me alive and now it's turned into a novelty junk place

where you have to order everything off a damn barcode. And then they interview the freaking CEO. And he's like, Oh, how did I do it? Well, I paid the laborers the least I could. And, uh,

I guess that's the end of that. That basically that I made them all wear big plastic gloves and I made them real sad and made everybody order off the app. Oh, now I have all your information and I can sell it. And I named it velvet taco because that's funny. Cause it means sex stuff. Anyway, it's just sad.

My mom was like, I don't know if this is the stuff we talked about at the top of the show is going to be on the show. But my mom was sad about that. She's like, doesn't that mean Velvet Taco? She watches HBO. She knows what that means. Right. She's like, what do you fucking think it means, Mom? Mom, do you understand?

Every time you vote Republican in your life, you've ushered in these places called the Velvet Taco. You pretty much own the Velvet Taco. So what's overrated? Velvet Taco? So anyway, just overrated is mom and pop landlords getting on the bandwagon and being like, oh, we can also charge $3,500 a month for, you know, they don't understand that they're playing themselves. Sure. You played yourself, mom and pop. Yeah.

Congratulations. Bam, bam, bam, bam. Congratulations. Hold this L. Here you go. What's that song called? Lose Yourself? Yeah.

Yeah. I'm going to play Lose Yourself. I'm going to invite all the landlords down to the Ramada Inn i'm gonna get it on a 10 hour loop yeah set myself up at the front of the room tell them it's about how to make more money with venture capital or whatever and they're all gonna show up and i'm just gonna put on that song and i'm gonna start saying the truth tell them you've got a deck with some pretty compelling slides yeah and they're called i'm gonna make them watch knock it over i going to make them watch. Knock it over. I'm going to make them watch shinders to shinders.

Yeah. And it's what we could have. This is what we lost because of you motherfuckers. Own it. Own it. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, We'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.

Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling first- firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions.

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Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.

It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session, 24 hours. BPM 110, 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up?

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There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. We're not going to keep talking about it. We talked about the J.D. Vance thing yesterday. We're back, by the way. We talked about the J.D. yesterday's trending if you want to hear more speculation about the the couch we have to restrain ourselves yeah yeah we have to we have to cut

ourselves off you know they're saying no glove no love as jd vance says if that was true that jd vance had sex with a couch that would be one of the most likable things about him that's what i've been saying if he did that and then wrote it in his memoir in his like coming of age memoir i would be like oh maybe like he actually told the truth in this memoir maybe there's like a core of like something interesting or yeah but exactly that's relatable yeah that's really we all did fucking you think come on i mean we're all acting like we've never fucked a couch come on come on i mean i'm're all acting like we've never fucked a couch. Come on. Come on. I mean, I'm definitely not acting like that. My last fiance was a deck chair.

I mean, I'm serious, though. That'll make him more human. I mean, the guy's a dark money, you know, Trojan horse, absolute 100% fucking Nazi. I mean, there's no way around it. But he said he loved us, Chris. He said, I love you guys. Oh, that thing where he did on the joke where he made that joke about diet. Yeah, like he doesn't

even know what he's fucking talking about. Yeah, that's what I mean. He's out of his fucking mind. He doesn't even know how to talk to the world or anything. He's so used to talking to Peter Thiel or whoever, like dark money people who he just goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he goes out in public and he's like, it's good. I drank Mountain Dew and everybody thinks I'm racist.

What? I don't know. Was it maybe all the racist shit that you say? Nah, it's probably the Mountain Dew. No, I don't know. I don't know. Get me back indoors. Take me off the street.

That's good. I love you guys. Anyway. So where were we? So yeah, I hope he fucked a couch. Yeah, me too. That's our only hope. Yeah.

You're our only hope. Somewhere in there. Yeah. There's still a couch fucker, a passionate man. All right. So I want to talk about how Kamala Harris's nomination, her run, is being covered in the mainstream media. Her run is being covered in the mainstream media, specifically a series of headlines that are kind of disparaging the idea of a black woman running for president. But since they put a question mark at the end of the headline, it's OK. Seems to be the logic in Newsweek. Is America ready for a black woman president? Question mark. The conversation, race, gender, and politics. Is the United States ready for a black woman president?

Question mark. USA Today. And they didn't manage to put it into a colorful pie chart, but they said, is the U.S. ready for a black woman president? Question mark.

Why a leading congressman isn't sure. You know, she's also half South Asian. Right. But it's so funny to see democrats also push that because like they're trying to really pitch her as this person too when she's biracial which is very interesting to see also but yeah are they ready for this black woman i mean i i see i understand like questioning that but that has to be more of an investigation into the white supremacy that like presides over the entirety of American thinking versus like this shit, which is like, I don't know, like a black lady is like what this is like, what these headlines feel like rather than maybe something a bit deeper. I think I can't believe it because those headlines are really just saying like. I mean, they're really putting a question mark on it, but yeah, we're not ready for a black president.

We don't I mean, that's like I mean, those headlines are just like you don't really want a black president, do you? That's all it is. And and it's insanity that we talk about race as much as we do in this country. I mean's just so sad it's so sad that that is like even in why does that enter into everything i mean i know why but you know what i mean it's like who gives a shit you know we you know what fortunately too many people do you know especially when you're coming off end with it's just unbelievable yeah the the idea of the president being an old white guy is very deeply rooted in how America thinks about the job, both on the right and on the left, and a big part of that. I don't know if we can say the problem is caused by or if it's reflected by, but, you know, Hollywood liberalism certainly is in lockstep with this trend. The Washington Post in 2020 published a report finding that the vast majority of mainstream movies have portrayed the president as a straight cis white male, which that's obviously been the case in real life as well.

But literally anything can happen in a movie. You know, one of these movies that made the president a straight white cis male had aliens being taken out by a floppy disk, and they found precisely zero examples of women of color playing fictional presidents. That's fucking bonkers. Like of the 25 characters who didn't fall into the like straight white guy category, 16 were people of color, 13 were black, two were Hispanic, one was Asian. The remaining nine characters were white women. And there were no women of color playing fictional presidents. But yeah, it's a I mean, it's a it's a reflect. I don't it's I can't say this is caused by Hollywood. This is I mean, like this is the momentum of American culture is to is to box people out that aren't white cis men in terms of like who can actually lead. Obviously, other people are able to rise to those heights. But yeah, I think maybe what it does, though, too, is it reinforces this sort of cultural race, racist momentum that we have by always being like yeah i mean like it's probably a white guy right like that's what that's what the president has to be so we can feel okay about it

and if it's a black guy as a president means the world is ending in a movie or there's a disaster happening yeah like deep impact or danny glover in 2012 or jamie foxx and white house down like those are the types of movies where the president is allowed to be black. Or 24, where there's a different terrorist attack every 25 minutes. But just in general, both voting and in movies, the idea of a woman president seems to cause some problems for people. The first movie to introduce this idea was 1965's Kisses for My President. Oh my God. What movie is that? It's called Kisses for My President.

The poster has a woman president answering the phone at, you know, the desk in the Oval Office and her husband standing next to her in a hat that has like flowers all over it for some reason yeah well he's like wearing like oh like oh like what a first lady would wear like it's the inverse you know yeah on his head and then he has a suit on when a woman becomes president of the u.s what happens to her poor husband when he becomes the first lady that's one of my favorite movies i don't know why you guys are laughing you're like yeah yeah no but where are you gonna get to the weird part this is you're talking about kisses from my presence such a good movie so it tries

to mine laughter from the idea of a guy becoming the first lady and concludes with a happy ending in which the president resigns because she gets pregnant oh my god wow that's like fucking 1965 that's like that fucking ali g shit where he would say aren't you worried like if hillary clinton becomes president that she's gonna fall in love with saddam hussein oh my god those interviews exactly those interviews he did. Exactly. Those interviews he did as Ali G. Those early ones. Yeah. Oh my God. Those early ones where he interviews like Henry Kissinger shit are so fucking good.

Yeah. But yeah, that, that, that whole thing is like, there are, there are the people who control everything sadly are just a bunch of graduates from Harvard and Yale, mostly lawyers. Uh, they have these secret clubs and they're all white men, you know? And so it's reflecting just that, I mean, this for me was like a moment, maybe a lot of people knew about it, but I mean, it was on CNN. So a lot of people knew about it, but it was right after they were starting to call for Joe Biden to resign, which I was down with. Like I understood the idea. Certainly after that debate debate it made sense to me that was debate

was like i had to turn it off you know i was like when he said he beat medicare i was like okay um you know like what i mean you know and i love trump goes yeah you beat medicare you beat the hell out of it whatever that means you know right um uh but at that moment i was like okay this is a problem but i did not like well i don't think anyone liked George Clooney weighing in, you know, a white male, you know. And this was a panel on CNN about this decision. And I just did not like the tone of these insiders. Like, forget about Carville. He's always a fucking dick.

But also, he's a guy. What is his fucking qualification why do they always put that white man who's just incredibly not thoughtful obviously no um you know and they constantly put him on because they're just like here's our rolodex of people that we have to comment on this shit and it's all white dudes who went to yale and went to harvard it's the same club right and you know like some white guy just says hey hey, guess what? Whole country. We're swapping out the president because me and Larry Summers and whoever the fuck else and John Podesta or whatever decided he's got to go. it's two who like we're like it's gonna be him maybe they're gonna have a virtual roll call to like solidify the nomination and and really telling people that we're like i don't like is this the best we can do like do we need to consider other things and then suddenly like oh my god we love kamala this is the greatest thing that has ever happened and you're like what

like i'm yeah what last week it was this and now it's this and i get that the the enthusiasm changes in your reporting on that but it's interesting to see how quickly like the punditry goes from you know one one extreme to the other like no it's on the public and yeah right okay we're on board with this and always were it turns out yeah right and it turns out like i mean well if it was an honest discussion which cable news is useless for any any you know thing that's funded by advertising is is is completely you know and often often these outlets are out what outright owned by billionaires they just will not talk about when one party has got jd vance who's part of a secret society of roman catholics who thinks fucking liberals are demons that need to be basically killed you know that's

what they're pitching on that far-right religious stuff that there's this the devil is real and it's liberals. So like when you've got one side doing that. You know, it's still we'll vote for whatever. That's the discussion. You don't you know, the fact that it's even like, yeah, I don't care if it's Biden. I don't care. I'll vote for Biden because the other, you know, I just, I just felt like the discussion was like, yes, like either way we're voting against authoritarianism, right? You know what I mean? Right. David Axelrod, this is not time for you to show off. Why are you showing off? Why are you on here with an attitude? This is not a time for attitude. You dope. Yeah. I mean, you need to have attitude with one person,e biden maybe like talk to him with attitude but yeah maybe and joe biden he was like he wasn't trying to hear that he doesn't know i'm

just kidding he doesn't know he doesn't know he wouldn't know what he was saying you have to drop out of the race what race it really it was it was the debate and also the like five to ten subsequent interviews and appearances where it was just like, wow. But yeah, this is really bad. I was just like, he was too old to begin with. I knew it all,

all along. Yeah. But I think, but people like David Axelrod, like they, it's easier to get mad at Joe Biden than themselves, who are the people who put like, you know, reinforced this reelection campaign.

Yeah. I tried to just like force it through. Cause there was, there was no real primary. You know what mean like they really they were like bro don't even fucking try and step to the fucking incumbent and i get that that's not a great look usually but when that given the age and what he said about it being a bridge to like a new generation you'd kind of be like voters were clearly down for someone even before he announced that he was going for reelection. So like when I see those people be like, you know, Joe really needs to step aside. It's like, dude, you are the people telling before telling people not to worry.

Shut the fuck up. Joe Biden is fine. And now you're switching it up to be like, he's got to go. It's like, well, dude, you were you were the fucking person propping this up. So don't act. Don't act new. That's what I think so, too, about David Axelrod. It was like, what? You weren't aware like everybody else was that this guy was old until like now all of a sudden it's an emergency it was an emergency the whole time then you above everybody else knew you know this seems like we suspected but you knew yeah you're supposed to be

the democrat you're supposed to be the good guys and this is this is what you're you're you're trying to like make everybody feel like insane because everybody knew this that we just accepted it because we were told we had to right you know we just aren't voting for fucking trump people get it stop talking we're not idiots that's the other thing is like they just think these people think that the general public the whole general public everybody is a goddamn idiot yeah yeah and it's not fucking true it is not true at all everyone i talked to who's you know cartoonishly what you would assume is you know whatever i'm not even it doesn't matter but i but when i did those like man on the street reports that talk to people like at bus stops and shit and like it's just like every person who's down and out that you figure oh that person's

down and out because they're dumb no they're not down and out because they're dumb. No, they're not down and out because they're dumb. They're smart. They're just down and out. Yeah. Anyway. They're unlucky. We live in a fucking lottery system. Yes. We live in a fucking real world open air casino. I should be fair to Axelrod because he was a little bit more consistent

with saying Biden shouldn't run. But that was at the end of last year. But again, and I guess the Axelrod aside of it, there are many people that were part of the establishment. Miles, are you friends with David Axelrod? Huh?

Are you friends with David Axelrod? I heard Axelrod fucked a couch. I don't know. I mean, he's my father-in-law. That's what I was picking up.

That's what I was picking up. I was picking up a little don't be so mean to David Axelrod. No, I was just to be fair to daddy, I mean,id david he likes to be called david actually but i i do just want to just something you said chris that like yes the this idea of there's a lot of like tropes you grow up thinking are true because you see them in movies and you

know one of them that like other people are stupid or that the vast majority of people are stupid turns out not to be true like the more you learn about the world the more you're like no they're just like a lot a lot of people that get written off are just people the more you read and learn about the world, the more it becomes clear that the one theory that you always see in movies and when you're a kid, that there is a small group of white guys who make all the decisions together and freeze everyone else out. It seems like the most far-fetched.'s the one that's the one that we've been right about all along like the wealthiest one percent of the global population

it was just reported accumulated 42 trillion dollars in the past 10 years like they're getting so much richer so much faster after like in the 10 years since we started talking about the 1% being a problem, they've gotten so much richer, so much faster. like made a deal with myself it's crazy i just made a deal with myself oh good i can't wait to hear about this um i'm just gonna be quiet but no i i just think that like i made i made a you know i really have been feeling lately you know really like especially because i write the column and i do podcasts and stuff i was just on on Zach Bendis' podcast, Grinding to a Halt, the other day, which was really fun. I don't know. I just thought of that while I was talking. And, yeah.

And, but, you know, I think about these things a lot. And I don't know how to. I'm realizing that I'm not changing it. I'm not changing. I'm not going to change it. I can't change what that cabal of white men are going to do with the candidates, but I can like stay alive and not despair because somehow I can be of help.

I know it. And, and I don't know how it looks, but I will remain, you know, and I think about all the, all the other countries that have had all these horrible things happen, fucking Palestine,

you know, just like those people are still getting up in the fucking morning and trying to live a life and and it is absolutely horrible what what people have to go through and and i you know i just am trying to remember that i guess the deal with myself is that i'm going to try and keep showing up even though i'm not sure how to how to help i guess that's the point but i know that waking up helps if you're if you're not a bad person yeah you can be present just being present on the damn earth as a good person is is inspiring to other people who will then hang around too we all just have to hang around for each other and be like oh well that's guys we're all still here so i guess we need to stay you know

i mean just like yeah there's something about just and that was my under overrated was just going to be that saying of putting on the oxygen mask on yourself like, you know. Before the child. Yeah, like you gotta do the thing, you gotta put it on the child afterward. If you put it on the child at all. I feel like that's the thing. They're always putting the oxygen mask on themselves

and that's it. There's a second part to that. Right, right. Anyway. But that's what I do think that that's it. Like, I mean, I'm not sure. This is all like a crazy situation, you know. Yeah. And, you know, I just want to keep showing up, which is also some modified slogan for some other organization I can't think of. Keep showing up.

Something like that. And just doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there we go. Well, can't put it any better than that. Chris Crofton, as always, a pleasure having you. Thanks. So fun. So fun. So wild. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Well, can't put it any better than that. Chris Crofton has always a pleasure having you. Thanks. So fun.

So fun. So wild. Yeah. One banana, one banana, one banana. He's off that one banana and cold brew and one spoon of one spoon of, of almond butter.

Okay. That'll do. Give you that healthy fat. Fucking. Is that what it is? Yeah. Almond butter. Yeah.

That's one. Chris, where can people find you? Follow you? All that healthy fat. Is that what it is? Yeah, almond butter. Chris, where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me on at the Crofton Show on Instagram and Twitter. You can order my book, The Advice King Anthology from any dystopian company you would like. It's like 12 bucks from freaking

Walmart. I buy them from Walmart because it's cheaper than getting them from Vanderbilt University Press. But anyway, go get that book. And I got a record coming out this fall and I and I have a lot. I have a plot. I'm finally going to put it out and I have a plot to somehow include you guys in that launch. So I'll talk to you guys about that maybe later. But I have an idea of like maybe I can premiere the singles on the daily zeitgeist or something like that oh that'd be awesome but uh it's a beautiful record and i'm i'm really

excited to finally be putting it out so that's gonna happen it's called i'm your man and also go check out my last record hello it's me which got a 7.4 from pitchfork that's hello it's me amazing exactly that's what it was named for yeah that song i mean i love that song chris is there a work of media that you've been enjoying man for this one it's just uh that whole minneapolis public television thing and that shinders to shinders thing man let's start choreographing dances in fucking arcades again yeah yeah and like using payphones let's change it up not well using payphones is out of the question but you know what i'm phones, let's change it up. Not while using pay phones is out of the question, but you know what I'm talking about? Let's bring it back to the fucking tap dancing on the, on the, on the sidewalks. That's right.

Exactly. Remember that Dr. Pepper ad? Do you remember that Dr. Are you guys old enough to remember? No, but there was a Dr. Pepper ad where everybody danced in the street. It was like TikTok, except it was, except it was just like, you know, everybody had sex afterward. There it is. There's no sex in TikTok. There's no sex in TikTok. There's no sex in anything anymore.

No. Yeah. The fuck? You know what? Those dancers that did the choreographed dances in the freaking peep show? You think they didn't all? Come on. Have sex?

Who's naive now? Come on now. Come on now. Where can people find you as their work media? You've been a joy. Yeah. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. You find Jack

and I on the Basketball Podcast. Miles and Jack, I'm at Boosties, where we're talking some of the, one of our guests, Trevon Edwards' favorite players from the 90s, like Nick Van Axel, Jason Gale, Grant Hill. A look back and a look to the present. Exactly. USA Basketball.

And find me talking 90-Day Fiance on 420-Day F Exactly. And also, and find me talking 90 day fiance on four 20 day fiance. I tweet. I like is from at Eagle man for two Oh six nine. I don't know if you remember the JG Wentworth eight seven seven cash now commercials, and it would be like a fake opera. Well, this one has JD Vance in a Viking helmet and it says,

I have a raging boner and I need couch now. Call J.D. Vance. 877-COUCH-NOW. Jesus Christ. So stupid. Oh my God. A lot of good couch content. A lot of good couch content.

The end of the world is funny. Yeah, dude. These are our circuses and bread right here. Fucking memes. At lolon, we tweeted, NYT, Vance Couch, no angel. Which is, I'm sure, the story that we'll be seeing eventually. Vance Couch. No angel.

So stupid. And also, I was enjoying a tweet from Trash Jones who tweeted, Having siblings is so important because you learn the exact amount you can annoy someone before they try to physically kill you. Which is an important lesson that we all learn along the way. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,

where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think you might enjoy? J.G. Wentworth. Just that one? Yeah, just bloop that shit.

Actually, no, this is a track I was talking about with producer Justin yesterday. We were talking about this Tame Impala Justice. There's like a new Justice album that came out in the beginning of the year, but they do a track with Tame Impala. And Kevin Parker's voice goes surprisingly well over the electronic beats of justice so this track is called never ender uh justice featuring tame impala and it just feels like some shit you

could play with you know on a hot day weekend vibes kicking it off so do that made the weekend never end never ender justice and tape appall and Tate Apollo. Oh, damn. Justice's album Hyper Drama came out earlier this year on Pitchfork 6.3. They don't got shit on Chris Crosden. Oh, hell no. They got shit on Crosden, bro. That album must be terrible.

A lot of skips, bro. Their numbers are crazy, though. Those numbers don't mean anything. You should have had a tent. Yeah, they are crazy. So I have a giant tattoo of itips, bro. Their numbers are crazy. No, those numbers don't mean anything. Well, you should have had a 10. Yeah, they are crazy. So I have a giant tattoo of it on my back. So what?

So what? Next to the Nixon one. All right. We will link off to that song in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this week. We are back on Monday to tell you what

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