The Daily Zeitgeist - Resistance via MAGA Self Owns, Tron = AI PsyOp? 10.10.25

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

In episode 1946, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, actor, and host of Podcast But Outside, Andrew Michaan, to discuss… The Comey ‘Prosecution’ Is Another Example of American Slop Fascism, Norway Is Afraid That Trump Will Retaliate For Nobel Prize Snub, Jordan Peterson Almost Died And Nobody Even Noticed, New Study Has Concerning Trends Regarding AI Use In Schools…, Is Tron 3 Secretly Disney’s Pro-AI Psyop? And more! Trump Accidentally Posted Message That Could Destroy Entire Comey Case Central witness undermines case against James Comey, prosecutors concluded: Sources Norway Is Afraid That Trump Will Retaliate For Nobel Prize Snub Jordan Peterson Almost Died And Nobody Even Noticed New Study Has Concerning Trends Regarding AI Use In Schools… If A.I. Can Diagnose Patients, What Are Doctors For? Tron: Ares review – even Gillian Anderson can’t slap this mind-bendingly dull sci-fi into shape Jared Leto’s Tron: Ares Is Getting Demolished In Some Early Reviews Tron: Ares is so bad it makes you wish AI would hurry up and destroy Hollywood AI Is Inevitable and Looks Like Jared Leto Nine women accuse Jared Leto of sexual impropriety in new report Jared Leto Is Running a Cult Straight Out of a True Crime Docuseries 'Tron: Ares' Wants Us to Consider That A.I. Can Be Used for Both Good and Evil ‘Tron: Ares’ Review: Disney’s Buggy Upgrade Introduces Jared Leto as an AI Determined to Enter the Real World Disney Will Use AI in Movies & TV but Has 3 Rules for It Disney Scrapped Dwayne Johnson Deepfake For ‘Moana’ & AI-Generated Soldier For ‘Tron: Ares’: “Company Couldn’t Risk The Bad Publicity” Tesla Optimus: Tried to start a fight at the Tron: Ares premiere Tesla’s Optimus robot steals spotlight at 'Tron: Ares' premiere with kung fu antics | Watch Elon Musk Reacts To Trailer Of Jared Leto-Starrer Sci Fi Thriller Tron: Ares That Explores Feelings Of Rogue AI: Watch Jared Leto Invests in Generative AI Video Startup Jared Leto invests in $500M AI startup despite calls from other stars to shut down the controversial tech LISTEN: Bolero Dub by IsenbergSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What did you spill? You didn't spill on your computer, did you? No, I just spilled this like, I don't know, my girlfriend has a lot of the plants that are like in water. No, you know, that's really cool. You can grow plants just in water. You don't have to do soil, and it just, and it just works. I love that you, it's pretty cool.

You and I have the same plant understanding and our partners have the different kind because I did the same shit like my wife had these clippings. Like, it's just in water, though, where you? You have to put those soils like they can live like that. I'm like, no. It's crazy. It's really cool. Isn't that what hydro is?

I guess so. Wasn't that weed grown just water? Heck, I'm not a scientist. I just smoke the shit. But I have to say, I do feel like these roots are searching for soil. I do think that's ultimately what they're doing. It also sounds like just a poetic thing to say about yourself. Yeah.

Yeah, all searching for soil. Tired of being in your glass vase. Your glass menagerie, if you will. I don't know, Dad. It just feels like sometimes I'm tired of being in my glass vase. These roots are searching for soil. This is an I-Heart podcast. Ah, come on.

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This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American Share of Consciousness. And it's Friday, October 10, 25. 10, 10, 10, 10, good buddy. There is. 1010 321 remember all those collect call numbers uh no you don't remember 10 10 321 that was like i uh dial down the middle 1 800 a t t o call a c a l a t t t t that's the one that i remember i don't remember 10 10 oh man former this yep i remember this dial around service hell yeah they had john lithgow on the commercials anyway um that's what i'm going to say in the old folks home in a few years or now

it's also a national angel food cake day national it's a lot of National cake decorating day, national handbag day, national walk to a park day, national metric dance. I know, man. I want to a park with cakes and handbags. A hawk to a park, if anything, bro. And I'm glad you brought that up. Thank you. Miles, I'm glad you said that.

It's about fucking time. Somebody said, somebody brought that back. My name's Jack O'Brien, AK, and I would piss in the green mile, and I'd piss in a Apollo 13 Just to be Tom Hanks The guy who has to Piss in every movie You've seen

Da-da-da-da-da. Whoa, way off on the da-da-da-da. That one courtesy of You can't do that on television. Certainly current to do that on television But he can piss all over every movie that I saw as a child. Mm-hmm.

Anyways, thank you. You current to do that on television. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles. great. Hey, as well, great. Hey, the Lord of Leger Shim. In my final day in the nation's capital, it's been a great run, great sandwiches, great weather. Finally got to feel a little bit of fall weather because L.A. still in the 80s, right? We're still in the, yeah, yeah. Today was like the first kind of like cooler day. And God, the way I've, I brought this hoodie to wear

because I haven't been able to wear a hooded sweatshers for months now living in L.A. Finally did it. Thank you to the mid-Atlantic. We love you. It's getting chilly. It's getting. getting chilly in the mornings back here in L.A. Miles. I can report that to you. Do you, at the end of any trip to the nation's capital, do you say, it's been fun spending this time with you in the nation's capital, for the majesty? No, I know you always ask me to say that, and I, to this day, I refuse to sort of debase myself. I'm Hank's brained this morning, guys, what can I say? Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious comedian and actor who you've seen in the classic insider

you're trading Brian's hat, courtroom sketch from, I think you should leave, but one of my favorite comedic performances. Performing stand-ups, stand-ups on stages and television across this land, doing make-em-ups on the internet's, the host of the wonderful show, a podcast, but outside. It's Andrew Michal! Andrew! Hello, hello.

Thank you all for having me. I am not in Washington, D.C., but I am in, I guess I would call this the West Coast capital, Los Angeles, you know? I think this is D.C. West. Center of the world. I remember, did you, I mean, wasn't that an idea you had as a kid where you thought the city you lived in was the capital? Like, I thought L.A. was the capital of America for the longest time. And then I learned what D.C. was. I'm like, wait, what? I thought it's L.A. And then I learned Sacramento was the capital. I'm like, this is not right. This is not right. Even for this. No. It's just, your life has just been a series of disappointments ever since.

Yeah, being 17, that was a rough year. Yeah, it was a rough year for you, yeah, U.S. history. I'm not going to blame it all on 9-11 because that also happened when I was 17, but it's on my mind. Did you have 9-11 envy as a person on the West Coast? I mean, I've said it before. I remember, I begged my mom to pick me up from school on 9-11 because I wanted to get out of test. Right. But luckily there was, I think a lot of you rightly were just like, what the fuck could happen?

And, you know, because like all the kids were leaving and it almost felt like, do my parents love me for the amount of kids that were leaving school on 9-11? Because like, you're taking out of school, we're taking out of school, we're going, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, mom, she's like, I'm fucking working. And I'm like, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. What?

Yeah, you call us, like, she picks up her mom. No, and I was like, can you at least get me, like, around two? Because, like, I have a class. I do not want to be in. She was like, you fucking idiot. Fine. I had never been, I had never been to New York as a kid,

and when 9-11 happened, I didn't. you know, I was in middle school or something. And I didn't know what the Twin Towers were. I mean, I just didn't have a reference point for it. So I was like, okay. I just didn't know. I was. He's really unaware.

Okay. Another Tuesday in the books. Yeah. I actually hitchhiked to school that day, and I got a ride. And the person who picked me up told me about it. Sounds like Miles, the Bush administration was not the only person who was unprepared on 9-11. Yeah, also me. I think that would be fair to say both of you.

And also, you know, that triggered. because I was supposed to, I was a good student up until my senior year of high school when I completely just like, what the fuck is this all for? Because I was so terrible in physics, I paid my old, a teacher I had in junior high, I bartered weed with him so he could buy me the teacher's addition to the physics textbook we were using in my physics class. So I had all the tests. He's like, you got a hookup? I got a hookup. Exactly. I was like, you got that teacher's credential to buy, like, teacher only texts.

Because my teacher was like, he did everything out of the workbook. I had that. And then I started selling the quizzes and the test to other desperate honor students. And I had a whole racket going, baby. Wow. And the statute of limitations is over on that. I checked. The weed to test result pipeline is definitely. That's impressive.

Miles is much cooler than I was in high school. Andrew, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. Okay. First, we're going to tell the listeners, okay. Yeah, you took a long pause there. Okay. Okay, good. You're in?

Is that okay with you? You're still in, right? Yeah, yeah. I should add that to the thing. Yeah, we're going to get to know you a little bit better. Is that, is that all right with you? Well, one thing is I'm really into consent and I do consent. So yes.

Good. Wonderful. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the James Comey prosecute. How's that case shaping up? Because, you know, we talked about how it looked a little suspicious that Donald Trump sent out a tweet that was clearly supposed to be a private message. And then the prosecution happened and everyone was like, this doesn't.

They don't have a case, so to speak. So we'll just talk about what, like, what we've discovered. What's the deal here? We've been on Nobel Watch this week. Nobel Watch. Donald Trump believes that he's about to get the Nobel Peace Prize. I don't think anybody else really thinks that that's going to happen. They've even said there was a headline, like, on Thursday that, or Wednesday that was, like, Nobel Peace Board is, like, laughable that he thinks he's even anywhere close to the Peace Prize.

Anyways, that country, Norway, is very scared now. They're like, oh, he's going to be mad at us. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about Jordan Peterson. Another, this is deja vu. Jordan Peterson almost died and nobody noticed again this summer. That happened a few years back. But anyways, this is somebody who I take all of my health advice from.

So interested to learn more there. What's going on there? Yeah. We'll talk about AI in schools, AI in Disney movies, and Disney, the old urban legend that Disney will not let somebody die in Disneyland, which it's kind of an urban legend. And I was ready for this one to, yeah, have you ever heard that? No one will die on the physical premises. It's like, get them the fuck out of here. Like, it's like, Pulp Fiction.

He's like, I don't, you brought the OD bitch to my house. I don't want the OD bitch at my house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly, it's that scene from Pulp Fiction. So it like seems like an urban legend, but then the reason that people started saying this is so fucked up. It's like, I guess not really an urban legend. I guess they kind of did this at one point. All of that plenty more.

But first, Andrew, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, I just, you know, speaking of cold mornings, I was just looking up the first light for Los Angeles because I'm a surfer. I mentioned this last time, I think. and I often wake up at four in the morning to go surfing. And I try to get there at the moment that the first light hits the horizon, which right now is about at 5.30 a.m. That is whimsical as fuck, Andrew.

You are living your best life. I'm out there sitting on my board. Right, right, right, right. I do it like once. So I would say, I mean, I serve a couple times a week, but I would say once a week I wake up at, you know, four or 4.30, and I'm out there in the water by 5.30. And then when are you out?

I surf for like two hours I try to serve for like two hours but it's pretty cool to be because often if I get out there that early I'm the only one out there for like the first 20 minutes and recently I went and it was like a little too dark I kind of didn't time it properly and I was like basically in pitch black

for like 20 minutes and it was kind of big waves and it was definitely a little scary but it was really it was really nice once the sun came up and then a couple more people came out it was like yeah it's really just the most unbelievable way to spend a morning to like wake up with the sun on the ocean I know nothing about that.

How often do you turn to a fellow surfer and say, man, God sure had some paint brush, huh? You know, it's funny you say that because all the pro surfers are really into God. That's true. They are, right? They're all really religious. And it's so strange. Like every pro surfer, like their Instagram bio is like, it's all thanks to God. Wait, really?

Anything. Yeah, they're all really religious. It's very strange. Like Kelly Slater and shit? Like, they're the only one I could name. I don't know about Kelly Slater, but like the woman who's, whose, you know, arm got ripped off by a shark. She's quite famous.

She's very Christian. You got to be at that point. You got to be. Just any time I see like a video of a surfer on my Instagram, whatever, I click on their profile, it's always something about God. I don't know. There's like, it's so interesting, like the idea that, like, some people get really hardcore into nature and it's like completely divorced from God.

And then other people get really into nature and it's like really tied to God. And it's like, what makes you go down one path versus another when you get really. into nature. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's like, thank you Jesus. When they see it's like a very specific.

Yeah, yeah. It's like, why is Jesus part of this? But anyway, so yeah, as long as you're feeling gratitude, you know,

up in the morning. Yeah, so, you know, I usually hit the, you know, the ocean from 530 to 730 and then church opens at 8, so it's kind of perfect for me.

So it's kind of just lined up. I was saying, like you're on that Walberg timeline. You might be only a matter of time before you're up. Getting prayed up. The good Christian church is next.

I like to have prayed three hours before anyone else wakes up, so I'm so much better than them. I get all his attention. God focuses on those. While you're sleeping? Exactly. I'm shredding under God's watchful eye, bitch. Yeah, he's exhausted by the time you're praying.

He's not going to answer anything you're asking for. He's like, these people again? Yeah. It does remind me of the opening scene from Jaws, not that I hope that's not what's in your head when you're going out there. But no, no, I don't think about it. Okay, good. What's something you think is underrated? Okay. I'm as an adult, I'm trying to learn a new language, which, you know, is something that I feel like you kind of stop trying to do after you take, you know, a second language in high school. Like I learned Spanish and French in high school and college. And I kept up with those a little bit, but not too much. But I'm just, I like Japan a lot. I've traveled to Japan many times. I think I mentioned on that on the podcast before. And I'm trying to learn Japanese and it's really, really, really hard. But I just feel like I've always been interested. did in learning other language

and I just have been like, oh, it's too hard. And it obviously is. But I'm just like, you know what, I'm going to do it. So I'm working on it every day and it's been really fun. Miles, you recently started taking lessons on Duolingo, right, for Japanese? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm doing it. I got a street going. Yeah. Do you know about and you know about Mizoo and stuff?

Gohan or misd or misn't. I mean, about 7. 7. 5. And, and you're getting all that?

Some of that. You're learning a language. That's awesome. How long are you doing the Duolingo? Okay, so I'm 41 now, so about 41 years since I was born. My mother speaking it to me every day. You're native Japanese, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lifelong, yeah. You were born here, you were born in America, but you learned Japanese growing up? Anchor baby, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? Okay. American anchor baby.

Wow. My mom, yeah, my dad also, his family was also brought over here many centuries ago on boats. Wow. I believe for a timeshare tour that went terribly wrong from Africa, 1600s. Three hour tour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got suckered into it. No, Japanese is great.

I, yeah, anyway, I'm like, like, you keep it up? easy yeah i mean i because i have a i have a kid now so i'm speaking japanese to my son all the time because i've your kids learning like being yeah yeah yeah he speaks japanese because you know like with my mom it's i was always i was just talking about this with some of my family or my in-laws the other day was like all my mom's friends are japanese immigrants so when i would go hang out with my mom's friends i was always around just japanese being spoken all the time with my son i'm really my mom and i are really the only sort of like inputs for japanese so like i have to try to really speak a lot of Japanese and, like, also trying to get them to watch stuff in Japanese.

That's so cool. I mean, he'll be quite thankful for that later. I definitely will identify with the learning another language thing because, like, I have, like, L.A. Spanish where it's like, I can get by, but I would love to, like, fully communicate in Spanish. And I'm always doing the same thing. I don't know. Dude, it's probably, like, so hard. It seems so overwhelming. But it's like, well, you just have to start and then, like, make sure you do it at least every day. Exactly. Have you gone to Japan with your kid? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, one of the first times you're able to travel, I went there.

And now that he's, like, walking and talking and, like, has, like, able to have memories, I'm like, we got to get you back there. That's awesome. Yeah, it's a great place. He's online. He's online, everybody. He came online. We've got to get him over there.

He's getting this. He tapped into the world and immediately. But, yeah, learning new language. It's really overwhelming, but I think it's, I don't know, it feels like a good use of time in your brain. Yeah, and your brain, for sure. Yeah, I guess. Undeniably great. What is something you think is overrated?

I got to say, using AI for absolutely anything. I just, I have so many friends that use it and they act like they need to. And I'm like, well, what were you doing two years ago? Thinking. Anything you can do. Like, I've never used it for anything. I've never used ChatGPT. I'm just like, because all I hear is.

how bad it is and then people I respect still use it and I'm like well if it's bad but then you're using it like I don't know it just seems quite easy to not use it if the consensus is in that it's pretty bad for both the environment and people's jobs and the future of the civilization just as like I don't really see the positives and I feel like it's pretty easy to do anything you need to do without it right it has absolutely revolutionized the world of email jobs there's just fucking meaningless emails that nobody has read pinging back and forth.

It's just at an incredible rate. It's like you couldn't have possibly read this in the time that it took you to write this 500 word response. And every company, you know, every company is just like trying to proudly tell you

that AI is now part of their shit and it's just like, that's not a positive. That's to me, that's a negative. That's no. Don't do that. That's them,

that's them winking at all the other investors who are over leveraged in AI to be like, don't worry, we get it. We have to, like, enterprise, the enterprise use, the large-scale business use of AI is, like, one of the few roads to profitability for this thing. So they're like, don't worry, man, we've got a lot of money in this, too. We're going to try and make this shit seem like, chill. Also, am I wrong in thinking that none of it is actually even AI? It's just like predictive

words? Or is there stuff that is actually AI? Well, it's what they've decided to call AI. Like, there's not AI. It's like, it's not, right? Like, it's just what the most likely next word is going to be. Like a large language model is like probably, again, it's good marketing because the idea, it's like it's artificial intelligence. It's no, it's fucking auto correct,

you know? Right. It's like, it's still an algorithm. It's just that we're a little more, the what's happening inside the box is a little more mysterious. So we call it AI, but I don't think it actually is.

Yeah, yeah. It's a good trick that has formed a lot of people, I think. But I think there was a thing that was going around of like that, did you that David Simon quote about? about AI. I wasn't sure if it was real or not. You know, the guy

who created the wire. The quote was AI. No, no, like, I mean, a lot of people were posting and I'm like, it's probably I mean, it doesn't, didn't seem crazy but he was just sort of, there's like an exchange with like a, he's being interviewed. And it said or who was it, it was Ari Shapiro

like on NPR in 2023 and he said, okay, so you've spent your career creating television without AI and I could imagine today you thinking, boy, I wish I had that tool to solve those thorny problems. David Simon, what? Shapiro. Ari Shapiro then says, what the fuck? Shapiro saying, or saying, you imagine, and then David Simon cuts him off, you imagine that? Shapiro goes on, boy, if that had existed, it would have,

it would have screwed me over. Simon, I don't think AI can remotely challenge what writers do at a fundamentally creative level. Ari Shapiro goes on. But if you're trying to transition from scene five to scene six, and you're stuck with that transition, you can imagine plugging that portion of the script into an AI and say, give me 10 ideas for how to transition this. Simon, I'd rather put a gun in my mouth. And, you know, hopefully he puts his gun in his mouth at Disneyland and is the first to die there. Yeah. That could be really cool. We'll see. We'll see. They might have a time machine to prevent that. That reminds me of the conversation from office space where he's like, Does someone ever say you have a case of the Mondays?

What? What? Yeah. No. Hell no, man. Believe you get your ass kicked in something like that. It's just like the least anyone has ever gone with a question that is being asked. What?

What? Well, you know, I just imagine. That's what you imagine? That's what you imagine. He's also got like some jewels from Pulp Fiction in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You imagine? Is that, oh, so you have an imagination?

And I look like a bitch to you. What? What? All right. Well, we're going to talk about AI later and how it's actually, I don't know if you've seen the latest Tron movie, but it's pretty fucking cool. Dude, I can't. Anything Jared Letto is in, I'm all in. You're all in.

You've always said that. Dude, he's got away with words and cults and coercion and stuff. All right. We're going to take a break. We'll be right back. Come on, why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient. Still using yesterday's tech, upgrade to the ThinkPad X1 Carbon,

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Like, people who are unqualified will, therefore, be more willing to do whatever the fuck they say. And that seems to be happening. Is that why you guys had me on the show today? We didn't want to put it like that. Is that why you asked me to do that episode? The main thing we look for in guests is loyalty. Loyalty and incompetence.

That's right. Those are people we like to have back on on Fridays. That's right. But, yeah, I mean, like, it is, I mean, there's always stories that are just with ominous headlines about the just toilet bowl trajectory of the country. But there's always an undercurrent of total incompetence to this. And obviously the MAGA movement is acting out its agenda in real time without much resistance. But it seems that in a lot of cases, the biggest form of resistance comes in the form of self-owns, basically, where they're like, oh, shit, we said that. Oh, well,

that takes out a whole legal argument we had for something. So like the Democrat strategy is going into a World Cup game, you're like, I hope they, like, get at least as many own goals as they score goals on us, you know? That'd be sick. That'd be sick. You guys should try kicking it in your own one. I don't know, man. See how that goes.

If we can just get them to do a bunch of own goals, though, then we don't have to really show up. But, yeah, like, sort of this Comey trial, like, you know, Trump wants to exact revenge on the former FBI director because he wasn't a total pushover. And we've spoken about how, like, numerous U.S. attorneys refused to work on this case specifically or resigned to avoid having to be like the lawyer who went to law school and knows the law to be like, yeah, so I'm prosecuting this one. Because again, the charges are fucking flimsy.

And we know they're bullshit because the prosecution only happened after Trump did an oopsie and told the whole world that he was directing Pam Bondi to go in, like, go into like revenge mode. And like, uh, and like, uh, flimsy lohan. Is that a thing? Oh, okay. Flimsy lohan. Let's take that.

We'll take that. We'll take that. Just adding that to the record for consideration. Put that on the scrolls. But this whole, the whole prosecution has been just a carnival of errors, and every day we're learning something new. So like that one truth social post, and everyone's like, that was supposed to be like a text, right?

Wait, what? Yeah. Why did he just write a note to her saying do illegal things in all caps and sign it? do what is known as a vindictive prosecution. We found out that that was straight up meant to be a DM. And so, you know, sorry about that. And again, even that moment has given Comey's lawyers a chance to have the case dismissed, like on the basis of this being a vindictive prosecution.

And they would be like, I'm going to point to this post from the actual president of the United States. But even then, right, even if the trial goes forward in January scheduled, the DOJ still has to prove the case, which is, again, that this is all about the Hillary emails and that he essentially lied to Congress about authorizing a leak to the press about the email investigation. And, you know, they were also under the clock to try and get, like, get it under before the statute of limitations ran out. There's just like all these things are like, just fucking get it done. We have to fucking do this now. And during this whole thing, like, with the buildup

to the grand jury indictments, the reason this was taking so long was the DOJ kept pointing out that they have scant or even just a kind of evidence to try and get into conviction with much of this whole case hanging on one guy who the DOJ themselves say he's problematic as a witness. Yes, I'll read this quote. Problematic faith. Daniel Richmond, a law professor who prosecutors alleged Comey authorized to leak information to the press, told investigators that the former FBI director instructed him not to engage with the media on at least two occasions, and unequivocally said Comey never authorized him to provide

information to a reporter anonymously ahead of the 2016 on the election. It goes on to say, prosecutors at the DOJ, quote, said, using Richmond's testimony to prove that Comey knowingly provided false statements to Congress would result in, quote, likely insurmountable problems for the prosecution. And they're still, they're like, yeah, all right, full steam ahead on this, I guess. They were just in court. This is the case being brought by the person who, like, he met at a party in Mar-A-Lago,

and she was, like, an insurance list. She just had a law degree and met Trump. Those are her two qualifications for bringing this. And she was first to his side when the Mar-a-Lago documents thing happened. She's like, I'm here. I'm a lawyer. I can help. And then she was put on woke patrol at the Smithsonian.

And then now is running an attorney, a U.S. attorney's office without Senate confirmation, by the way, which is also legally problematic for this whole thing. And then at the, they just had a hearing or an arraignment. And she had to bring in two attorneys from like the North Carolina U.S. attorney's office to help prosecute because she not know how to do prosecute. Right. She's not a prosecutor in any way.

All the descriptions where she basically sat silently while the other two lawyers were also kind of confused. They're like, uh, yeah, we're going to need some time, Your Honor, to learn. what this is about. So whatever Comey wants, we're fine with as a timeline, because we're also learning what this made-up laws

that he violated are. How bad this case is. Yeah. It's like a case that would require the foremost attorney, the foremost prosecutor, like in this field to pull off. It's like they need

miraculous brain surgery, and they're like, this podiatrist went to medical school. Yeah. And we're going to put her in charge of kind of running the show. Yeah. And you're going after someone

who used to run the U.S. Attorney's Office that Halligan is operating. James Comey used to run that U.S. Attorney's Office at one point. So it's all they're completely out of their depth. And I think that's like the one thing is that they still have to prove a case. Like it's not just like they broke that. I'm sure this will probably lead up with the frustration Trump has just like create laws that they can prosecute people under where you don't really need much evidence. I'm like, well, they violated that thing, which is being a hater.

So, therefore, goodbye. But, yeah, I think this is like one of those few stories that I read, and I'm like, oh, thank God, like, some, this is, maybe this won't be a total fucking clown show. This would just be a massive waste of time. But again, these people are just, you know, they're tripping themselves up. Yeah, seems good for us, bad for them. For the moment. You know what I mean?

Like, it's a bit of light cope for your Friday morning. That's all we ask. all we can ask from the news cycle. All right. Meanwhile, as we record those, we're just hours away from the announcement of the Nobel Peace Prize, and it's probably not going to be Donald Trump, which is the only, I think this is the most I've anticipated the Nobel Peace Prize before. This is usually not a thing where I'm on the edge of my seat. But people, yeah, the Nobel Committee was like what that similar response to uh to the the question we were talking about earlier was like what the what the fuck do you mean why would no hell no i wouldn't use a i believe you

get your ass kick for suggesting something like that kick for suggesting he get a Nobel peace prize uh i feel like that tonally is very similar to how the Nobel Peace Prize committee talks but anyway are they responding to like Trump's administration saying something about it or Well, he's said it so much that, like, it's what he expects. I think the mainstream media is, like, so what's happening? Do you guys agree? Is this usually how you, like, when somebody says frequently enough that they deserve it and they're famous enough, is that usually how you guys determine the Nobel Peace for us? That's how Oscars go to.

Right. His Oscars campaign. Whoever says they deserve it. They usually get it. Yeah, yeah. Unfortunately, this is where the incompetence. cuts the other way for the country of Norway, because the entire nation is basically freaked out that he will punish them with like tariffs and like hired NATO contributions or even

declaring Norway an enemy, which seems their right to be worried, I would say, because that seems like exactly the sort of shit that he would do. The Nobel Committee is totally independent and not affiliated with the government in any way, but nobody is sure that Trump, can actually like make sense of that I feel like is where we're at right and it's a like it's a powerful tool because like anyone who wants to manipulate Trump is like oh I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna put his name in the hat I'm gonna nominate him if he gives me the thing I like like Netanyahu said it a Zelensky I think yesterday was basically like if he gives me Tomahawk missiles yeah yeah like he's he's truly being like here's the quid pro quo here

you give me this and I'll be like yeah dude guys just find I can give it to him, man, please. Which is interesting. Like, that seems to be, like, one of the more effective carrots that people are wielding right now, just because, like, his absolute Nobel thirst. Yeah, I mean, if we can use his Nobel thirst to make him, like, not kill people, that would be cool. Like, that, let's do it.

Let's dangle that. Yeah, the Nobel Peace Prize is now used to inspire peace in him. That's kind of the... She works in reverse. It's the most peaceful. It kind of is like, hey, we'll give you this. Maybe you'd be a little peaceful for a... couple weeks? What if we pretended you were peaceful? And then you like, you pretended as

that? Yeah. Would that be? What if we did like a little role playing game here? So like we're like, oh, here's the number of peace prize. And what would like you do in response to that? Would you be like kind of chill? Oh, I guess I'm kind of peaceful, huh? I never thought of it that way. I'm kind of a peaceful guy. Maybe I don't need to be president anymore. I finally ticked the final box. Yeah. Yeah. I can now finally, I can now finally go up and as it beam of light, you know, the Nobel, the Nobel liberal progressive Democrat prize. We should give that to Trump. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. His response, I think, would be like, well, then I'll stop bombing Norway.

I'm like, sir, you haven't bombed Norway yet. I mean, I would say maybe don't worry about that, Norway. Just you do what's meant to be done because he'll forget. That's true. That is another thing. He'll forget. He will, if we only remember stuff, Hillary Clinton, and Obama did to him, or Biden. Who else is in the running? Oh, Andrew, don't even get me started on all the different candidates that we've been tracking,

who are deserving of the nob... Like, I, honestly, I have no some fucking clue. Some scientists or something. Yeah, yeah, some fucking scientists or something. There are so far... It's probably Gemini, Microsoft Gemini, whatever that Gemini thing is. I guess they said they were three...

380, 338 candidates have been nominated. So is Trump one of them? I think he was nominated just recently, but we, yeah, a lot of people, because, I mean, again, that's the whole thing to like, yeah, yeah, we'll, we'll get behind that. Definitely, definitely, dude. What? I can't believe there are other people nominated besides you. That's, like, what I'm asking over here on, dog. Didn't you, like, stop by 7,000 wars, dude, and they didn't give it to you?

Oh, crazy. All right, we'll look into that. We'll look into that. And then in self-care news, Jordan Peterson, who, who. is like he's that that seems to be the main thing i always hear for people is like he tells people how to live their life right like isn't that the one he's like make certainly he certainly guides my life i'll tell you that right i'll tell you my life is certainly guided by his principles so i'm out there with the tip of the sun peeking over the horizon yeah i'm thinking of jp the sea the sky

thinking of my man jp he yeah but like the thing I the one piece of advice I've always heard is like he tells young men to make their bed and they're like whoa that's fucking crazy daddy exactly like right are you just like taking advantage of people who didn't have a good relationship with their dads he's that's his thing and also the carnivore diet it was like just eat meat bro right and not going to lead to any no health issues detected. Just take a bunch of benzodiazepines and eat red meat and you will be...

Lean your room, bucko. And then he starts crying for some reason. That seems to be an encapsulation of what I know of him. Anyways, he keeps having brushes with death that are like kept a secret when they happen and then

after the fact, his daughter usually is just like, yeah, man, he was real touch and go there. He was in the ICU in this past summer and near death, nobody knew the cause was pneumonia and sepsis, which he also suffers from chronic inflammatory response syndrome due to decades of mold exposure. And his daughter claimed the new neurological issues are the result of spiritual attacks. That's what you're like, this is bullshit, right? He, because he's always on a deathbed, I feel like. He's like the boy who

cried deathbed. And he's always like, fine. saying like wacky shit i mean i i don't doubt that his carnivore diet plus benzos is equaling prime health but it feels like a bit of history because that video where his daughter's like my father she also has like robotic cadence dude she's amazing she's like canadian young christie gnome is what she reminds me of like this is her very very nob vibes you know uh this is just so you can hear her be like this is what we're up against which is chronic inflammatory response syndrome due to decades of mold exposure do do do we don't have a better explanation for his neurological symptoms at the moment other than spiritual attacks cool spiritual attacks we don't have any other

I mean at this point is that just criticism is that what we think spiritual attacks is people criticizing negative retweet negative retweets yeah yeah disagree with what he says people Analyzing my father, people analyzing my father's words, too. So you're the guy who says, clean your room up. You've been exposed to terrible mold for however long. Everybody needs to toughen up. And also, I have filthy blood and, like, mold everywhere. The decades?

Yeah. Is he, does he bring around like a mold bag to breathe into? He's like, give me my mold bag. Like It comes out of that like black ooze from Dune Just to come up and take a breath from his mold bag And goes back down I'm bringing it up because at the end of the video

She then like plugs the website to be like Hey you're also like we can make money here Like it was just like also like a long winded ad Or it's like you're bringing them in with like She also said like her baby had a heart attack or something And everyone's like this is all I was reading like other people post up like Who are into Jordan Peterson more

and like he does this like every couple years. It's always like him or his wife or his kid or the grand kid or something. Like they're always like, oh my God, something's going on. Ken Griffey Jr. and Singer. Yeah. Ken Griffey Jr. There it is. All right.

Well, just wanted to, mainly I bring it up. Just get the prayers going for joining us. Yeah, just get those. Yeah. We got to counteract the negative spiritual. The spiritual attacks, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. We got a spiritual warfare.

And do you think the doctor was like, I don't know, is it the benzos and the red meat that's doing it? Okay, these are spiritual attacks now. People tell me you can't do benzos anymore as a spiritual attack. Yeah, but during the pandemic, Super Producer, I think this is right, that he was like dying in Russia for a while and that his daughter was like... At the beginning of 2020, he tried to get, be put into a medically induced coma to kick his benzo addiction. And no doctor in America in their right mind was going to.

do it. So he went to Russia to do it. And then, like, when he got there, like, you got double pneumonia. And then he went to, like, Belgrade or something, and then got COVID in Belgrade. He had a look, yeah, some of us, we thought we had a wild 2020, huh? Yeah. He really did. Anyways,

you guys need to toughen up. Not this guy. You guys need to live healthier lifestyles and make your bed. So is that? So he was in a coma. Is that why he didn't post the Black Square in June 2020? He was in a coma. He was just kind of doing his little Obviously, and I would have...

Obviously, the Blacks' Corps would have been all over there. In solidarity. I did my white homework, and I now see my ways. That's also why he wasn't in the Imagine video, right? Because he got that email, but he was... That's right. Yeah. He was...

He was going to do a different song, though. He was insisted on it. Yeah. The gravitational force of the Lorne Michael's impression, by the way. I've, like... Yeah. I feel like he is... He is a Lorne Michael's impression.

I was listening to someone else doing an impression or something and it was just like, God damn, that's Lauren Michaels. You can't escape the Lauren Michael's impression. Yeah, because isn't like Dr. Eva's brain? Dr.

He said, Dr. He was very Lauren Michaels coded. Yeah. I wonder if just like one of those things or everyone's like, yeah, dude, like everyone's got there like, fuck you, Lorne character. They do.

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This is, like, where the AI stuff freaks me out is when it's just like, yeah, everybody's using it constantly in school. And it's most people are like, it's my best friend. Yeah. Yeah. This new survey just came out. It said nearly one in five high schoolers say they or someone they know has had a romantic relationship with AI.

42% of the students in the survey say they or someone they know have used AI for companionship. One in five seems like too much. I mean, back in my day, you just, your girlfriend was a guy on, a 40-year-old guy on AIM you met. Exactly. That's the way to do it. You know, this AI bullshit. Exactly. That's right. Or you just use your brain to make up somebody who went to school in Canada or Texas.

You will never be able to meet. But you definitely, we did stuff over the summer, dude. Is it that they're asking the chatbot about, like, help with stuff? And then how does it get, like, who takes it to the level where it becomes romantic or flirty or whatever? Is it the kid? Is it the chatbot saying, like, oh, you're so smart. Like, you must be handsome too. Like, what is it that's doing that?

It is like a flattery machine. Like that does feel, yeah, I was just reading an article about its use in like medical diagnostics and it's like they, it does like come up with the right answer some of the time. But like sometimes it'll add like the doctor will ask it to come up with a diagnosis. And if it doesn't have enough evidence, it will just like make up evident. Like it just it's a yes and and flattery machine. Yeah, yeah. Whereas just like it has a.

It has a friendly vibe, and it will, like, do whatever it can to, like, kind of keep the ball in the air. Right. All right. Mr. Peterson, I've consulted my AI assistant. It looks like you are being attacked with spiritual attacks. Okay. That has nothing to do with your addiction. The addiction is actually what gives you power. Yeah, according to this. It says, am I right? Yeah. But, yeah, then it goes on to say, like, that there's a connection between a school's AI use and a lot of these other outcomes that says, quote, the more ways that a student reports that their school uses AI, the more likely they are to report things like, I know someone who considers to be AI to be a friend, or I know someone who considers AI to be a romantic partner

because it's being normalized in the school. And they also said that, like, schools that are using AI more frequently are more susceptible to data leaks because you're giving it all kinds of information, and it's just opening it up for any kind of data leak exposure. And also apparently correlates with, like, there's a correlation with increased use of AI, manipulated slash generated images and videos to like sexually harass and bully other students.

And there's also another part of like when a school has like devices they own to let students use like a computer or something, they have like AI tracking software on it to see like how kids are using it. And those like monitoring software, like that monitoring software has led to like false alarms or even like in the worst cases like arrests based on AI hallucinations. And they're like, what the fuck is this? Yeah. So it's just kind of a, it seems like it's, it's all tied together and makes things worse. And then apparently there's another part of it too that students like educate, this is from the NPR article quote, educators who frequently use AI were more likely to say the technology improves their teaching and saves them time.

But students in schools where AI use is prevalent reported higher levels of concern about the technology, including that it makes them feel less connected to their teachers. yeah it's it's like a really powerful tool that even doctors don't quite know how to use yet without having it like make shit up maybe don't need to i mean like kill the patient and yeah like it makes everything seem easier feel more seamless and it sometimes like fucks things up catastrophically like it people use it to like diagnose themselves and like one person in this article i'll link off to, and the New Yorker was, like, talking about how, like, they were trying to get a lower sodium diet. And the AI recommended, like, switching out salt for, like, a different chemical compound that is poisonous. Oh, my God. I had to go, they almost die. They almost, like,

poisoned themselves, like, had to go to the emergency room. Well, yeah, I mean, I think fundamentally, it makes things easier because it's not concerned with being correct. Right. I mean, things are with keeping you talking to it. Totally. Things are hard because the, the answers for problems are sometimes not very clear. And when its entire goal is to give clear answers, independent of whether or not they are right, then it's obviously going to seem easy. It's like, oh, that's easy, but it's like, oh, but that's actually not effective.

Yeah. Yeah, to our point about Jordan Peterson, like, I'm pretty sure there was a case where an AI, like people were having conversations with an AI being like I'm trying to get over addiction issues. shouldn't I do like little cocaine to make myself feel better just to like get through this? And it was like, yeah. It will agree with you to death.

It's like Hollywood. It will yes you to death. Cocaine makes you the person we all knew you could be, dude. That's the thing. Takes your pre-existing, like, the thing you want to believe and we'll just like keep going and going.

Well, AI is probably the only entity that enjoys talking to someone who's high on cocaine. Yeah, right. Exactly. It's the only thing. You're like, oh, my God, this is great. You're awesome right now. Everything you're saying is so smart and cool. The AI is like, dude, you're giving me ideas. And I'm the AI, dude. Go on. Well, but I also was reading something, I think maybe was a This American Life or something I listened to, maybe you guys heard it as well, where it was like, you know, it was like convincing some guy that he's like a mathematical genius. Like it, it, like, it flatters you to the degree that you live in this fantasy world where

you're like, oh my God, I'm coming up with theories no one has ever come up with because the AI is just like trying to tell you you're cool and you're good when in reality it's all just like a fake, weird fantasy world that like is playing it to people's delusions. I think that the funniest way I've seen it is someone use it to do improv with it.

I know exactly who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah. It's really cringe. And it was just kind of like, wow, this is wild. But also like, hey, you know, had some good responses at least that were quick. Kept the scene going. Yeah, I've seen that.

It's a dark, has a dark future there. Yeah. Yeah. It's, I think the, the one thing, it seems fun to the people, it's, it is kind of like drugs in that it's fun for the people using it. And the people using it or is like, oh my God, this is like amazing. And then like the actual results are not good. Like they, they might be good temporarily, but then it ends up like going not, it's not as good

as it seems to you in the moment. Right. Right. It's like taking a picture of what you're seeing when you're on mushrooms. It ain't going to come out the way that you remembered it, you know? Look at these 30 pictures I took of the moon. Oh, Jesus.

There's a lot of focus. I meant that. I meant to do that. Or is that a street light? You can't actually tell. All right. Well, everybody, like, I mean, it's being injected in the bloodstream from every angle. And so it's only a matter of time

until they start making movies where AI is the hero. And by only a matter of time, I mean this weekend, Disney is releasing the third installment in the Tron series, which began back in

1982. Oh, yeah, man. We've been begging for it. Fifteen years, man. They've been fucking screaming about it. I've been camping out. I've been camping out. I've been camping out.

since tron two waiting for tron three they dropped the tron two on our ass in 2010 like and nobody was asking for it and nobody like the the response was like yeah i don't know that's all right i'm good no yeah yeah it looks like yeah i can see how like why you guys are you see the cycle the light the bike they were on that's pretty yeah no the lights are cool for sure for sure the lights are cool it's like got you see her haircut screen saver vibes like really cool screen saver We're just like, I don't know if I want to see a whole movie like that. And they were like, did you hear that? We should make a third one.

So we're getting Tron Ares, which critics are calling mind-bendingly dull. Ah, fuck. They had for the first like handful of syllables there. A couple words are pretty good. Yeah. People do, they did get nine-inch nails to do the soundtrack, and people do seem to like that. So it's getting bad reviews, and those bad reviews are inflated by a good soundtrack.

Yeah. Which, that's tough. The basic premise is, what if AI was Jared Leto? Except, so it takes place in a world. No, no, no, no. But our version, the film executive's version of Jared Leto.

Okay. Miles, you were, earlier, you're saying you can't, you can't get enough of Jared Leto shit. You love this shit. I know, I know. I go back and forth on him. I'm into basically everything, Jared Leto, except for the allegations.

But everything else I'm super into. everything but the allegations. Those I don't fuck with. The first time I'm saying this, but separate the art from the artist. I do demand we do it with let up. Yeah. But yeah,

so let's just quickly go through these allegations. He was accused of, quote, predatory, terrifying, and unacceptable behavior towards underage girls. But that was all the way four months ago. Oh, fuck. Four months?

This is another, I remember like a, few years ago. It's just happening. It's been happening. Every time it happens, I'm like, I thought this already happened, and we all agreed he was bad, but it's like, it doesn't really seem to stick. Yeah. Right. Seems to be a pattern of people alleging that when they were 16 years old, he would approach them, be like, how old are you? They'd be like, 16. And he's 36 at the time, and is like, cool, perfect. And then would start corresponding with them on email. I feel like there's another word for that.

Yeah. Groom? Groom? Yeah, I don't know. No, that's the word for like people of Mary Brides. I don't know. Grooting? Groot.

I am Groot. I am Groot. I am Groot. I am Groot. I am Groot. And, you know, would float, like when they turned 18, would try and initiate something in some cases. Sometimes he wouldn't wait for that.

One of the people that he just approached on the street when they were 16 was invited to stay at his house, and he walked out of a room completely naked when she was 17 years old. So just like a lot of the many allegations coming out. What's wild is that, like, that same woman said when she turned 18, then he was like pulling his dick out and masturbating. Pulling his dick out. And yeah, yeah. So he is.

So anyway, he's AI. Right. So, and also we should just, those 30 seconds to Mars fan retreats that, I don't know if you've seen the pictures, but they look like stills from midsummer. Oh, no. Was there a bunch of young girls and stuff? Everybody's in white. It does seem.

It's like all kinds of fans. He's there with many. Yeah, doesn't necessarily seem to be like limited to one age group. It's anyone stupid enough to want to do this. He would reportedly hold contests at those retreats where in which the prize was literally sleeping in his bed with him. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. 30 seconds to 18.

Yeah, holy shit. That's a new, that's a step off word. Okay, so let's put all that aside, Jack. Putting it all that aside. I'm trying to be in the role of a Disney executive here. Put that aside. Put all that aside. Now, what's the movie about?

The movie is actually pretty cool. I don't know if you saw the trailer. I did see the trailer before one battle after another on an IMAX screen, and I was like, whoa, those lights are cool looking. That's how they recommend watching the trailer. Yes. The villain is a billionaire tech CEO who wants to 3D print AI super soldiers. The hero is a billionaire tech CEO.

Okay, so different billionaire tech CEO. Love the message. Who wants to use AI as a force for good. At one point, the good billionaire tech CEO played by Greta Lee for some reason, questions if the AI is major malfunction is just benevolence. Like, what about that, though? Which goes perfectly in line with all the stories we're hearing about AI. Wait, why did you say Gretta Lee for some, like, what's wrong with her plans? I just wish she was, no, I mean, she's great, and I just wish this wasn't the movie that.

Oh, she's having to be in the problematic AI, sex predator. Greidelie, get your bag, yeah, yeah, I don't, you know. If you're her manager, you say, hey, I don't know, maybe we can, I don't know if this is the one we need. Yeah, it's probably going to be. Reda Lee, which this wasn't the project, but, you know. This is the thing that sucks, though, too. It's, like, you have, like, women of color in a movie, but then fucking Jared Leto's in it, and then watch, people aren't going to go, and then they're going to blame Greta Lee,

and they're not going to blame that, like, Disney for casting Jared Leto in it. You know what I mean? Right. It seems like, go woke, go broke, rather than, like, we kept this, a guy of dubious moral character as, like, the lead or one of the lead. And they keep trying to make it happen. Like, what was the learning from Morbius? People are like, uh, people just aren't morbin this time, I guess.

I don't know. The kids just ain't morbin like they used to, man. Okay, so you got the two billionaires. What happens? Then they, so Jared Leto is like AI that escapes. It's like, what if AI have human body? And then what if AI, you know, the world of Tron is like computer programs. like it already presupposes

like computer entities with cognition so I don't even know like how this adds anything but the overlay is just like the good guy is an AI basically yeah that's like that other there was that other movie was it J-Lo I remember watching

what that Netflix one that was one of the early ones when it was about like if until we embrace AI like the whole sort of moral story the arc was like until she embraced A.I. She couldn't live to her full, like, world-saving potential. And you're like, Jesus, get out of here. So this one is just more just like, see, tech CEOs are good. Yeah. And like, Variety has a weird review. Half of them are good. Half of them. Yes. Half are good, though. Half are good. Yeah. We just need the good tech CEO. Like,

Elon, do we not like him anymore? This is from the variety, the variety review, which, as we've talked about. Variety was the one that was like sinners may look like a hit, but not so fast. Yeah. Not so fast. Ryan Coogler is black. They're like, wow, they really wrote that shit in there, huh? They review of this. Compared

with such a trite fear of where technology is taking us, the second theory is a refreshing alternative to the kind of anti-innovation hysteria that fuels so many sci-fi movies. What if AI could actually be a force for good? Or as MCOM CEO, Eve Kim, Greta Lee, puts it,

What if it's major malfunction, it's just benevolent? So they're, like, fully on board variety, which makes sense because they're, you know, part of the industry. But this makes sense, like, it makes sense that they would try and create a work of, like, pro-AI propaganda. Disney's already announced its intention to use generative AI in, quote, upcoming movies and TV shows. And at one point, Tron Aries was going to include an AI generated character who would have been Jeff Bridges' sidekick. But then they were like, we had to scrap that plan because we were worried about bad publicity. I guarantee if it was cool and didn't suck shit, they would have included it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It must have looked like shit. Yeah, don't worry, forget the bad publicity about already doing like AI apology and being like, this is actually really good for everyone. This is the way forward. That's not the bad look at all. It's the, in cases didn't look bad enough. Elon Musk gave the trailer his endorsement and then one of his Tesla operations, Optimus AI robots just walked to the red carpet at the movie's premiere.

And then it pretended to spar with Jared Leto. That was the thing that actually happened. Was that just serve him a subpoena for a lawsuit? No, no, just. Was it doing Kung Fu? Like the last time we saw that Optimus robot? Yeah, exactly. Oh, hell yeah.

Oh, I do. Is it doing the same fucking choreography that we saw in that one video and they're trying to make it seem like this fucking thing was a real, let me see here. Wait, it is kind of doing the same stuff. Yeah. Dude, I almost want to side by side the video that we saw when Elon said this thing was doing Kung Fu.

Okay, this is so dumb and crazy. This sucks shit. Jesus Christ, dude, what is wrong with us? It's really... Fucking rapture us already. My brain is dying. Watching that. Also, I think last time I said it looked like a 45

year old trying to do kung fu it looks like a 70 year old trying to do like it's not not steady on its feet in any in any way and jared letto has no stake in a i either right yeah so jared letto also a producer on tron aris and uh an investor in two generative ai company oh really wow i didn't know that yeah not gonna shit where you eat huh all right wow okay okay cool cool cool it's funny too because i've seen the reviews have been really split and not really based on like the morality of it or anything. People are just like, it looks really cool.

And other people are like, this thing is fucking so bad. So I wonder how much, I wonder how the public will decide with their ticket buying this weekend where they end up. I just also, I didn't even know.

Your wallets for Tron areas. I didn't even know this was coming out until like last week. I saw someone like, oh, God. I think also because I'm just not, I'm not being exposed to like marketing campaigns on TV

as much as they used to be. You're also not as deep on the Jared Leto Reddit forum as I am because we've been No, I mean this for years. Once they kicked me out as a mod, I was like, yeah, yeah, you were over it. This place has gone woke, man. I'm out of here. The letonisance is upon us. Yeah.

The letonisazons. Andrew, such a pleasure having you, as always on the Daily zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? love love to be here always a blast and it seems like the news is just getting better and better and i'm so glad that the world is going in the right direction and it's nice to recap that with you boys every once in a while my name is andrishan m i c h a i'm on instagram and twitter and then i have a podcast called podcast but outside we interview strangers on the sidewalk and i know i said that i want to get you guys on i have not recorded in l-a since i did this show last because i have a backlog of

episode. So you are first on my list when I start recording again. Amazing. And yeah, we interview strangers on the streets. Some past recent episodes. I had Gianmarco Seren. That was really fun. Lisa Gilroy. Those are both really good episodes. And we just interview strangers about their lives. And it's always different and fun. And you can check that out on YouTube and podcast apps and social media as well. Do you have a favorite geographic location to interview strangers? Well, I did do it in, I did do a couple episodes in Japan. And that was really fun to be in a different country doing that. And it was hard to get Japanese people to sit down.

We mostly talked to tourists, but it was still fun to just be in a different environment. And I did one in Paris with my girlfriend that was really, really fun outside of a club that has not come out yet, but that one was really fun as well. Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah, man. Wonderful. Is there a work of media besides Tron Ares that you've been enjoying? I mean, every season I watch The Love is Blind and every season I say I'm done, but they just keep sucking me back in.

I'm watching that right now. UK? The new, no, the U.S. one that came out last week. Denver. Yeah, I love is blind Denver. I'm not up on that. By the way, having grown up in Colorado, I took one look at the cast. Before they even said it, I said, this is Denver.

And I was right. What do you mean just based on the names? I just, no, just the vibe. I was like, these people feel like they're from Denver. I just got it. I just got it right away. How would you describe that vibe as someone who, because like, when you say that to me, it's almost like,

they feel like AI creations, like where they're vaguely unique people? Like, they're, like, kind of, they're like, they're all, like, fit. They're, like, clearly outdoorsy. They're all super basic, but a couple of them are, like, trying to be edgy and have tattoos. Like, it's like, yeah, it's like very basic kind of, yeah, middle of the road. People who, a couple of them are like, I'm going to be slightly edgy and actually quite a boring way. Oh, what's my perfect Sunday? Getting on my bicycle and going, hitting up at least six breweries.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that, it's very, it's very brewery-coated. But yeah, the show, I mean, the show bothers me every season, but I always keep watching it. I just can't stay away. I watch it because I love seeing how unwell these people are, that they fall in love with someone through a wall. And I'm like, you guys are a mess, and I love it. It would be kind of funny. This could be kind of interesting if I do like a collaboration with an AI company, where one, one person on either side is just AI.

And no one has told that. And they just see if they can get them to fall in love and just like, that would be really interesting. That feels like a spy. It feels like some Jenny Jones shit where like the person who's like the subject of it ends up like becoming a tragedy for them like because they were ridiculed after them. Or we could just have the entire all the women are like all one side is all AI and all the guys are fighting over his AI girlfriends. Now that's a good idea for a show. They have to do that. I got to contact Netflix

before this episode comes out tomorrow because this is a good idea. Right, exactly. You really thought she had an encyclopedic knowledge of NFL quarterback stats, you're fucking dumbass? You're fucking idiot.

That's really funny. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work in media you've been enjoying? She said the New England Patriots were her favorite squadron. Anyway, yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Find me talking about,

90-day fiancé on 4.20-day fiancé. Work of media, I like, yeah, there was some here. Let me just pull this up, the old thing here. First, I got two. First one is from at Oregon, the DM.com. At social posted TV shows dropping all at once ruined community building. And I thoroughly agree, because when everyone had a week to watch something, it gave everybody to kind of watch at the same pace and keep talking about it.

and then at roger.bsky. social posted you've got to admit it's very convenient that 100 miles an hour is basically the upper limit for how fast humans can throw baseballs. Pretty much the best argument against the metric system. That's true. It does seem. Did we back into miles per hour

based on how fast people could pitch baseballs? We're like, all right, so 100 is the upper limit and then we'll use those. Like zero is freezing point? You're like, yeah, exactly. Let's work from there. Do you have a special connection with the metric system or with the U.S. system because your name is Miles?

Like, does that kind of, do you feel like Miles is more, is better to you in some weird way? No, no. No, not at all. I used to like, self-hate there. Yeah, I don't, we can get into it. Maybe you can have me on your podcast. We can dive into this. It's pretty fucked up.

But I was, no, I was, I've seen some TV shows recently talking about the first tweet, where they release all at once, but then they also do it weekly on TV. And it's like, like, like. Who does that? I think a show is coming out right now. I think if I read it properly, I think the English teacher season two all came out at Hulu at once,

but then weekly it's on FX, which just is so bizarre. You can't have it both ways. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but that's how I read it. And I was like, I'd also believe it for people to be like, maybe we're going to have like a hybrid release model.

Right. It's so weird. All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien, on Blue Sky at Jack O'Bee the number one. I'm starting to read the Percy Jackson series of books to my kids for bedtime stories and we're enjoying that. So any parents got any recommendations for bedtime stories that are around that level. Hit me up. You can find us on Twitter at Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zekeyes.

We're at the Daily Zekeyes. On Instagram, you can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom, you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information. that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy? Yeah, there's a Dallas-based producer named Eisenberg, I-S-E-N-B-E-R-G. This is like a drum and bass track.

I'm about to start playing skate four because all of the gameplay footage, I'm like, this is so absurd that I have to start doing it. But I always like to listen to drum and bass when I'm in like open worlds like that. If it's like Spider-Man or something, I can move quickly. through. I'm, for whatever reason, drum and bass hits my brain. And this is a track called Bolero Dub, and keen-eared hip-hop fans might recognize the Lupe Fiasco kick push, sort of like brass sample, sort of being like underpinning this drum and bass track. But I don't know, fun listen. I enjoyed nodding my head to it. Bolero dub by Eisenberg.

All right. We will lick off to that in the footnote for the daily zeitgeist. It is a production of IHeart Radio for more podcasts from IHeart Radio visit. The IHeart Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you list of your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this week. We're back tomorrow with the highlight reel of the best moments from this week's episodes and then back on Monday morning to tell you what is trending. And we will talk to you all then. Bye.

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