The Daily Zeitgeist - RFK Chainsaws CDC, The Wizard of... Nah 08.29.25

Episode Date: August 29, 2025

In episode 1923, Jack and guest co-host Blake Wexler are joined by co-host of Stuff They Don't Want You To Know and Ridiculous History, Ben Bowlin, to discuss… R.I.P. CDC, Gwen S...tefani And Blake Shelton Remaking The Wizard Of Oz Isn’t Going Over Well With Anyone and more! ‘Total implosion’: How Trump firing of CDC chief Monarez sparked an exodus Monarez would not cross ‘red lines’ before she was fired, confidant says Tough to swallow: The Trump administration’s approach to food safety gets even worse Contemporary ‘Wizard Of Oz’ Series ‘Dorothy’ In Works At Prime Video From Gwen Stefani, Blake Shelton & Creator Gina Matthews Gwen Stefani Praised a Tucker Carlson Interview and Now People Think She's MAGA LISTEN: In Your Arms by Shift K3YSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Speaking of power moves, my girlfriend is going to require me to remove this mustache after we record. Oh, yeah, you just grew up for the, for the record. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From this morning. Sorry, babe, I got to show the guys. You know. Message received. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:00:27 first of all thank her for her sacrifice yes oh wow yeah ultimate sacrifice thank you for your service ma'am ma'am thank you for your service i will stand up when she enters a room so we should take these hats off yeah yeah i'm gonna take my hat off oh geez sorry are yeah yeah yeah in the presence of of greatness how long has it been going on are you a fast grower yeah thank you for that sounds boring Yeah, like Link was saying, thank you. Yes, thank you for asking. No to both.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Mustache grow up. Yeah. How does, why does that sound like the weirdest goddamn euphemism? Yeah. I'm a fast grower, babe. Oh, mustache grower? You fast grower? Mustache grower?
Starting point is 00:01:17 I can just focus real hard and have a mustache by the end of this episode. That's how. The veins popping out of your head. Oh, my God. This is an IHeart podcast. Ah, come on, why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient. Still using yesterday's tech, upgrade to the ThinkPad X1 Carbon,
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Starting point is 00:03:09 Ross joins us to talk about her upcoming sold-out Vegas residency. Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport. The Holiday Rush.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys. Then everything changed. There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal. Just a chaotic, chaotic scene. In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, terrorism. Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 403, episode five of Dirtyly Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Ha ha! This production of I-HeartRadio's podcast, we're taking deep dab into American Share Consciousness. I was just talking about how my voice was, like, failing me this week, I've noticed. And if I get whatever RFK has from screaming, Dernedly, Zyghye guys, like, they're just like, oh, The only thing that could explain this is if every day you just screamed in a weird German accent for like a couple seconds. Except what your screaming is probably a different type of German scream than what gave it to him. Right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Yeah, his were happening in private meetings. Yes, yes. It's Friday, August 29th, 2025. Last episode of August, I would assume. Yeah. I don't think we're recording this week. God forbid. It's a long weekend, so it's going to be fucking March 2nd.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Is that right? I think it might be March 2nd. In like a lion, out like a ham. My name is Jack O'Brien, A.K., now I'm not trying to be rude, but these vaccines be killing you the way big pharma trying to shoot whip, fetus up, and you, it's the RFK mission hot and fresh pox transmission Diseases coming from Bobby got every man in here twitching That one courtesy of Charles Anwee Frommage on the Discord
Starting point is 00:05:33 And courtesy of Kyle Ayers and Paula Viganalan In our conversation yesterday where we somehow landed on the Uber problematic character of R.F. Kelly Sorry, sorry, okay. That's so good. Yeah. I'm so jealous of that. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:52 R.F. Kelly is. Yeah. Mine as well. Might as well throw them together. Also, great name. Charles enuit for mage. I love the idea that the Ian French Chuck E cheese stands for On Wheat or NUI, as I once pronounced that word on this show.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always. Not as always. Thrill to be joined. We've made a personnel change. We've made a, that's right. I hit my right arm. You're a righty, right, Blake. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Yeah, I could tell. I could tell. We ran into each other at the open. Yeah, I'm wearing a U.S. Open hat that I bought there. And a big foam finger that I bought there. You type so slowly now because of that stupid finger. Throw to be joined in our second seat temporarily by a brilliant comedian writer, actor, coiner of the phrase plumbers to describe his jacked thighs.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Uh, autocorrect keeps trying to change it to plumbers, because it knows that, uh, the word plumbers shouldn't exist. But it's like a, a curse from another dimension. Please welcome. A cyanide pill keeps coming through my screen every single time I type that word in. Uh, the brilliant, the hilarious, the riding a recumbent bike in short shorts. It's Blake Waxler. Hey, this is. I can't hear anything
Starting point is 00:07:19 Blake Westler Still now All right Well good Good Good Blake just held a phone To it
Starting point is 00:07:29 It was a teradactal Getting surgery Without an anesthetic Is that RFK's voice? Yeah it was R. Kelly Yeah it was RF Kelly Yeah it was RF Kelly Blake
Starting point is 00:07:41 I'm not going to explain what it was I do I kind of want to know Well I'll sing it later All right, cool. There was just piano man. I was just playing Billy Joel's piano man. Oh, we got, we got clipped for the right.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got clipped again. Billy Joel is all over it. Billy Joel is a time cop. He can come back from the future. And only listens to this show to make sure we're not playing piano, man. That's right. He does.
Starting point is 00:08:06 He does. And finally, and he, by the way, has, like, foam-fingered-sized fingers on each, every single one of his fingers. And that's how he plays the piano so well. He does have. There's a new. documentary about Billy Joel that is very long and also like it's it's
Starting point is 00:08:23 kind of amazing how much it's like the you know and like bad like bad musician biopics where they'll be like and I came to a crossroads and that's when I wrote the song Crossroads I'm referring of course to the bone thugs and harmony of a biopic
Starting point is 00:08:43 which is very succinct by the way unlike this Billy Joel thing The Billy Joel one, though, he keeps being like, and so I was, you know, going to New York on the Hudson River line, and I wrote it. Like, he's just like, the things are so autobiographical. It's just, like, so directly ripped from his life. He's just, like, looking around him, writing songs. And he's like, so I was at this bar where I was the man who played the piano and took some poetic license. And someone looked at me and said, what are you going to do with that
Starting point is 00:09:18 Piero? Yeah, man. Man, what are you doing here? Turns out they said that because I was there on the wrong night. Yes. Anyways, I thought it was a good line. So I just recorded it into the song. But he does have, in addition to giant foam fingers,
Starting point is 00:09:36 he has a vape that is in the shape of a giant cigar. Did you notice that? No way. He's vaping the whole time, but like with a giant cigar. that is just, I don't know, like, he's like, you know what would actually be way cooler than vaping is smoking a cigar that is essentially a dill-off. Yeah. But with vape juice in it, not tobacco.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Exactly. Not the thing people smoke cigars, because you know it, like, cigars are only enjoyed because of how thick and brown they are. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Take that Freud. Yeah. It's like sometimes the cigar is just a cigar, but, like, sometimes, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:16 You're going out of your way to, like, make it a cigar, even though it doesn't have any of it. Like, it doesn't need to be a cigar at all. Uh, you just, like, want a big brown dick shaped thing in your mouth. Uh, anyways, who does not among, who among us, Blake? Who among us? We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat, Blake. Yes. By a writer, one of the best podcast hosts and executive producers doing it.
Starting point is 00:10:40 You know I'm from stuff they don't want you to know. You know I'm from ridiculous history. Uh, missing in Arizona. It's Ben Bull. You got them bowling. I don't know how long we're going to go, but thank you for segueing to the intro from talking about smoking cigars, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Thank you. Yeah, speaking of big things in your mouth, I guess I'm a guest for today. Yeah. The original big brown dick-shaped singing your mouth, it's Ben Bowling. Thanks. Thanks. That's what my mother always said. I am sure. She would wake you up.
Starting point is 00:11:23 She would shake me as a child. Say this. What's up, you guys? It's fantastic to hang out. It's phenomenal to see you all again. I was running a little bit late, which Jack, you described as a power move. and thank you. It was on purpose.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Yeah, of course. This guy's all about the power move. And growing. And being a grower. Yes. We are. Yeah. So this is something that we should just talk about, you know, that we have to get the room.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Yeah. Right. Ben has a very impressive mustache right now. Oh, my gosh. Thank you. That I. Yeah. How's it going?
Starting point is 00:12:12 Oh, my gosh. Blake, I thought Jack was doing a bit while we were off air. No, you're serious about this. Okay, we're going on the air with it. Yeah, so I, you don't want to talk about it? If you don't want to talk about it, I didn't like you, you know, if you, I just am very curious how long it took because I, Jack doesn't want to press. He doesn't want to press it all.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I don't want to press on this, but this is the 11th time I'm asking you. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a journalistic trick where I'll just sit here in silence and wait for you to answer my question. I love that trick. I think it will always work and what could go wrong. Yeah, I just got back from some time on the road and I did that thing that every grown man does when you have a beard. And I went through, while shaving, I went through all the different personas. Permutations. Yeah, the permutations. Perfect. Defining facial hair. So this probably took about a week
Starting point is 00:13:12 and a half. Okay. Very thick. Very impressive. That is really, that is really a really strong week and a half. Oh,
Starting point is 00:13:20 thanks guys. Unfortunately, I can't grow chest hair. I have like three chest hairs. So you think it all just goes through your face? I think it all goes through the face. Just got rerouted.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Yeah. All your chest hair growth. It's a hair transplant from your upper left to your chest. But then in the exact pattern of the upper left. I know. I know, mustache.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I love it. Well, thank you for sharing it with us. I know you said that it's going away very soon, but, you know, you're a hero, and so is your girlfriend for letting you, like, keep it for this length of time. Oh, right. Negoti facial hair. Negotiations are ongoing, right? That's right.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Yeah. To give and take. Would never could. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I've been married for 17 years, and it is exclusively because I haven't, I haven't gone back to You know, my interest in growing moustaches in my early days.
Starting point is 00:14:15 If I may, like, Justin, let us witness Jack O'Brien here. No offense, man. My guy, you look like you get a 4.30 p.m. shadow after shaving. I do. Yeah, yeah. You look like it grows pretty quickly, yeah. It's a lunchtime shadow. It grows, it grows fast.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Yeah, I can, I could focus really hard and have a mustache by the end of this recording. Just a vague pop. out on the forehead and Blake you've got the you've got the scientifically proven best form of facial hair which is stubble right you got like you got like the generous stubble which yeah it's a good look yeah it's the it's the facial hair that like I feel like every famous guy has like in a movie it's like I like kind of I guess I haven't shaved but it's like so meticulous and it's like long and very specific spots. Yeah, exactly it.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Huh, that's interesting. You haven't shaved like one part of your face in a while while other parts. But is that, is this a natural growth? Yeah, okay. My face. Yeah, I wax my face. Laser. There are lasers and wax.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Oh, that's sick. It's a Serbian wax. It's when they wax your beard. All right. Oh, no, if that's got to age well. but we'll see. We'll get a letter from the Serbian Wax Guild. And they'll be like, guys.
Starting point is 00:15:48 SWG is a centuries-old organization. We do not appreciate being mispertrayed this way. However, if Blake Wexler would like to get, you know what I'm thinking now? I've talked this into free tickets to Serbia. Blake Waxler. Yes. A great basketball team. Waxler.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I said Blake Waxler is what I said. All right. You win. You always win. I just want to make sure you heard that. Ben, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners about some of the fun news that we're going to be talking about today. Hey, speaking of R.F. Kelly, things not going well for old America.
Starting point is 00:16:35 From our Canadian writer, J.M. McNabb, I feel like this could have only, this description of this story couldn't have been written by someone in America because he just opened it up with, well, that's not good, ellipses. Yeah, just weeks after being confirmed, CDC head, Susan Meneras, has been fired for being too vaccine friendly. So we're going to talk about that. There's also some stuff happening with food safety. if you guys do you guys do that do you eat food because yeah yeah yeah why is there something if you leave it out for a while or don't go to proper precautions there's like a thing with food that's happening but people look out for that right like don't isn't there are people who are space to make sure we're parents there is an invisible network that we hadn't paid much attention to up to this point constantly monitoring food and then like when there is an outbreak of E. coli they would address they would go out and take it off the shelves. They would also tell us about it in a way that I always found, I'm like, yeah, I mean, I'm not going to pay attention to that. But like, it sounds like you guys are taking care of it then. You guys got it? It's the same thing with the FAA planes where it's like, never really thought about planes until this administration. There's just things that we keep
Starting point is 00:17:54 taken for granted that seem fucking simple and Givens, but it just keeps coming up. All right. Well, so we can't eat. Yeah. Givens like to call it the, I like to call it the worst good news situation where you get that official announcement that a thing you haven't heard of has decided there will be less than four grams of rat feces
Starting point is 00:18:16 in cereal from now on. We guys, we've made a big breakthrough. So you know. All that rat shit you've been eating. Huh? And we'll talk about Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton because they're remaking the Wizard
Starting point is 00:18:30 of Oz as we've been begging them to do. So So we'll talk about that and just, you might not realize it, but Gwen Stefani is kind of full MAGA now. No doubt. I don't know, like full MAGA, but she's like a straight up conservative and apparently has them for a while. All of that plenty more. But first, Ben, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Sperm whale phonetic alphabet.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Uh-huh. Ooh. I'm listening. You just, you stopped listening. you're listening but you stopped after sperm based on your right based on the noise you made you creep huh that was for whale oh okay yeah yeah so do you guys uh have pets do you like animals or are you monsters or what's going on like you're coming at us like you're introducing the concept of animals to us have you guys i got a crazy pitch yeah yeah you can own an animal
Starting point is 00:19:33 If you like, you've got to feed it. That sucks. Yeah, I love whales specifically, and I'm becoming more interested in animals. And what's going on there? What's up with them? Yeah, as I get older. Okay, all right, guys.
Starting point is 00:19:52 This is the thing working on a couple of recent episodes about the question of can people talk with? animals. You know, we know humans are animals. They're just kind of stuck up, right? But instead of talking at or two, your pooch, your doggot, your fur, feathered, or scaly friend, can you speak with them? Can there be an equal peer-to-peer conversation or discourse? This turns out to be pretty crazy because a lot of the research is under fire, right? Like
Starting point is 00:20:33 Coco the gorilla is a famous example or Alex the African gray parrot who... Yeah, I thought we were like having conversations about Cocoa, with Cocoa the Grilla. Yeah. Right. Like Cocoa the grizzles on this podcast. Right. Right. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Because, uh, you guys bumped to Robin Williams, I think, and Mr. Rogers. That is the famous one, right? Yeah. Is Robin Williams? the cove of the gorilla finding out Robin Williams died? Yeah, that's apparently a bit of a confirmation bias on the behalf of the very well-intentioned scientist. No, honestly. However, I'm waving my hand, like I can just sort of say, these are not the droids you're looking for, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:21 What we did find was that in recent, quite recent years, researchers have leveraged large language models, algorithms, AI, per Will Smith, to analyze the communication of different types of cetaceans, specifically sperm whales, and it turns out that they might have a language. So my search history is fucking. and rocked and ruined because I had to put the word sperm into all these research things. And our buddy somewhere at an essay is like, okay, sperm, whale, sure, man. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:06 But whales might be able, might have a language that humans can translate and maybe talk with them. Yeah. sperm whales must be even harder to study because they live so deep in the ocean, right? Like, it must be hard to listen to them. I'm saying that as if I'm concerned. I'm going like, gosh, there's going to be so much work going into this. Well, they got to come up sometime. That's what I always say.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I'm a whaler. I should say that. I flicked whales. And so I just sit there at the surface with a harpoon saying they got to come up sometime, brother. Melville of podcast. Yeah, yeah, they call you. That's so. that's wild that the so when the apes were doing sign language
Starting point is 00:22:54 was it like the like sign language interpreters who will go behind a speech and like actually not know sign language and just be doing like and we just assume they're actually doing it when just because we don't speak sign language what was happening those folks are on the forefront of comedy. Yes. Kothman could never. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Yeah. Secondly, you are absolutely correct. The controversy goes into the concept of interpretation, right? Like Clever Hans, the world's most famous math horse. Right. The math horse I've heard is purely just like they were looking at their owner or like the human that they knew and like interpreting their faith. as like, okay, that's what they want me to say.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Klop, plop, clop, clop. Cleverhons. I'd never heard of this thing. It was all my favorite things. Cleverhands, the math horse is like a drug. Like, you just gave me a hallucinogenic drug by saying those words. Sorry. Cleverhons, the math horse.
Starting point is 00:24:06 All right. I got a tap out of this one. No, you got it. It's too much for me. That would be a great nickname that, like, for a boxer. Yes, Cleverhands. The Iron Mike. Clever Hans, the math horse.
Starting point is 00:24:21 It's Mike Tyson. It can be Cleverhans or Math Horse. You can't be so greedy that you have Clever Hans the Math Horse. I mean, you would have to be very good at boxing to support that moniker. The King of Sting, the Man of Iron, Clever Hans, the Math Horse. Yeah. This boxer keeps kicking us with his hind legs. Guys, do you think he knows that he's boxing or is he just looking at his trainer for cues?
Starting point is 00:24:51 Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, the controversy as we learned with Coco in particular and with other primate experiments was that people thought she could understand something like 2,000 spoken words in English and communicate them through some version of sign language that I'm making up here. And the idea then became that she was able to connect words to make concepts, which is a very human type of communication. So she might know the word for trash, and then the word for cat, and then you'd show her a raccoon. And she would say, oh, trash cat. And people are like, you're fucking amazing. That's so smart. She's basically a poet.
Starting point is 00:25:37 That's actually what we should call raccoons. and uh well the uh the that's the search history it's ruined sperm alphabet uh it's it's over for me you guys sperm alphabet that yeah i've heard i've read like studies okay i listen to them on a podcast about like prairie voles being or prairie dogs one of the prairie animals having pretty complex or like easy to decode languages and like that they were able to like figure out that one of them was, like, for color. So, like, somebody, they'd be like, okay, yellow guy coming and red guy coming. And it's all chirps, does.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Yeah, it's little chirps, but they were able to record enough of them and get a sense of, like, they had words for, like, attack from above and, you know, red shirt guy, attack from red shirt guy. From red shirt guy, attack from yellow shirt guy. Yeah. The scientists maybe should have stopped attack. Lacking them, I feel? Yeah, maybe that would have been. Not good science.
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Starting point is 00:30:14 That still goes. Yeah, it does. Start a Zoom call with a friend or maybe a new acquaintance. Or a boss. Yeah. A superior. It still works. The great podcaster, Matt Apodaca, who we now work with, has really shown me the, he's great, I'm making it sound like he was the first person to do.
Starting point is 00:30:39 I think I started doing it, but he approved. And that's, uh, that's huge. I don't want to besmirch his, his good name. That guy's name sounds like a spell. It is. It is. It is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Yeah. He is a, you're right. It's a, it's a Harry Potter. I don't know Harry Potter well enough to make a reference. So I just said, it's a Harry Potter. Maybe shut up. Ben, maybe shut your mouth. Maybe shut your muggle mouth.
Starting point is 00:31:08 You're walking in waters. You don't swim well enough to trade or something. Ben, what's something you think is underrated? For right now, mustaches, we scooped ourselves a bit in the beginning. But we spent some time pissing off our producer off air because I have a mustache that, that my girlfriend is clowning me so hard about. I did the grown thing, you know, I shaved and went through, as you said, Jack, the permutations. And I got, oh, I got, I got told that I look, I got roasted hard.
Starting point is 00:31:49 So I got told I look so Belgian that I might have. You do look Belgium. I have specific opinions about chocolate, French fries, and King Leo. uphold. Yeah. And, uh, yeah. And worst of all. Yeah. And it's kind of a wide mustache. It does you, you could be wearing a like old-timey one-piece bathing costume in that mustache, I feel like, and lifting like a bar, a barbell that is, has round weights on the ed end of it. Yeah, or triangle weight. You know what I mean? Like, it's, that's, that's kind of what I'm
Starting point is 00:32:26 picturing. It does, it does like kind of change your vibe. a fun way. I do like it. I like non-mustache Ben also. You know, I don't. Oh, that's very kind. You know, next time I'll go whatever the Old Testament thing is, where it's the beard without the mustache and it's just like the, what's that, what's that called the chin strap thing? Yeah, yeah. Chin strap neck beard. Oh, chin strap neck beard. I feel like there's a specific Amish or Mormon name for it. Yeah. That sounds fancier. You've come to the right place. if you want the Mormon name for a thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Yeah, I go to us burnside. General Ambrose Burnside. Yeah, yeah, it does feel civil warian. Yeah, that one. What is something, Ben, that you think is overrated? Laboo-boo. Are you guys familiar with this? Labo-boobo.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Lebobobo-de-they're making the greatest libibou. Yeah, we're familiar as people who have a podcast about the zeitgo Geist, we've been aware of this one. So I was, I was overseas recently, and the, the Lubboo thing was, again, like, you know, let's be honest, with this mustache, I look at the guy, I look like the guy who is a cop at the protest, trying to be cool, you know, like, hey guys, you'll be, you know, you'll be really kick ass if we all exchange names and dresses. you know, like places we go routinely.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Yeah, yeah. And so with that, he knows all the tricks. So he's, he's real plugged in. I am very plugged out. I learned about Laboubu like anybody else who was uncool by getting yelled at about it by people cooler than me. And I realized there is this global conspiracy
Starting point is 00:34:29 of people carrying around Labuboos and they're like fucking Freemasons, man. They just nodded each other. They have it hanging from like their bags or their backpacks. And then I don't know if they have a secret handshake. Like I don't know how deep this goes. But I do think it's overrated. And you said the pronunciation of it in particular? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I added pronunciation as overrated because you said you one time pronounce. on we. Oh, oh, oh, got, got, got. So that's another thing I think is overrated. Pronunciation is fine. I got it. Yeah. Pronunciation.
Starting point is 00:35:09 The pronunciation in general, overrated, yeah. By the way, we have learned from super producer, Catherine, that the beard and no mustache is called the whaler, appropriately enough. The whaler? Okay, Melville. Melville. So I guess I got to see what that looks like. I think that was a type of facial hair that I, experimented with it a young
Starting point is 00:35:30 no i can't bet you really yeah oh my god big time my yeah big time it was it was it was like pre when i could grow a full beard so it was just like shaggy whiskers shaggy whispers is what i want to say shaggy whispers
Starting point is 00:35:49 versus the math horse okay yeah shaggy whispers is my slash fiction about the scooby-doo you universe. Yeah, yeah. A tell-all book, Shaggy Whispers. That's right. All right. Let's, uh, should we get into the, uh, the old, well, that's not good update of the day? We might as well. Well, that's not good. I want to hear about that. Yeah. So what you want to hear from a doctor and also, you know, the opening line of a news story
Starting point is 00:36:22 written by a Canadian about your country. Well, that's not good. Someone with perspective. Yes. So just weeks after being confirmed, CDC head, Susan Menares has been fired. She was initially asked to resign, but refused and was fired by HHS, which I guess she was like, I can't really be fired by them. I would need to be fired by the president. And he was like, okay. I don't know if you remembered who the president is. It's kind of my thing. It's my favorite thing. Now, yeah, love you, boo, bye, bye. So she's fired because Susan Menares is not aligned with the president's agenda of making America healthy again. And this was because she wouldn't, quote, rubber-stamp vaccine recommendations that, quote, flew in the face of science, which is bad. Like, we had a sense. It might be coming. It's just going in a real worst-case scenario direction with our.
Starting point is 00:37:24 FK Jr. as the head of, we had a sense, maybe. I don't know, putting this, putting a guy who was a vaccine skeptic, kind of famously, that was what he was famous for, putting him in charge of health care for the entire country, that that could go badly. And it seems like things are going very badly. Several other CDC senior officials have resigned as a result. I'm somewhere between can't these fucking idiots do a single thing right and can't these fucking idiots do. do a single thing that isn't exactly the wrongest thing you could possibly do
Starting point is 00:37:59 at that moment, you know? I'm not even asking that they do it right. It's like just that they not be fucking like just exactly wrong seeking missiles. That's the issue, right? At what threshold, past what threshold does
Starting point is 00:38:16 incompetence become intentional malevolence? Right? How, how How randomly can one... Random. That's my reaction to this. I'm like, this is so random. This is...
Starting point is 00:38:31 Oh, my God, you guys, this is so random. We are winning the lottery of bad choices. You don't know. When I was in college, a lot of the girls I do would like to refer to things as random, and I think that is the funniest way to possibly refer to this whole. Oh, my God, this presidency is so random. Randy Randosa, one of them would say. And that person is a gene.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Whoever came up with Randy Randosa is a genius. Is a genie. He's a gin. Yeah. Is a gin. But, yeah, I don't know. We also learned this week that they're scaling back food safety monitors. Finally.
Starting point is 00:39:13 For foodborne diseases. You've been pushing for this for a while, Ben. Yeah, I talk on that. Yeah, yeah. I talk on that. Go ahead. You, Upton Sinclair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:23 You know how it is. You walk through a grocery store. Why shouldn't it be a casino? You know what I mean? I'm in Isle 12? I'm in aisle 11. We got some canned stuff. Is it beans?
Starting point is 00:39:35 Let's roll the goddamn dice. Yeah. These splash guards are fucking constricting. I want the food sitting out. I want nothing to stop my spit, my clean American spit from getting on this food that I don't know how long it's been out for. It's none of my fucking business. That's right.
Starting point is 00:39:53 If we needed to guard the food, let's put the National Guard there. Let's put the National Guard in here. This clear plastic. No more sneeze guard. Yes, more National Guard. Yes, more National Guard. The only protection against the salad with a bad cough on it. It's a National Guard member with a good salad.
Starting point is 00:40:21 It's a good salad with a good cough. Justin, please fix that in post. Right. Yeah, Justin, that's easily fixable, right? Hey, Justin, in post, could you make me sound smart and sane? Thanks very much. Thanks, thank you. Because you can sound less like I'm on the verge of just buckling under the pressure of our collapsing society.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Thanks, Justin. Real quick. Thank you. Thanks, Justin. CDC is in Atlanta. So this is a matter of local import, right? With, I would argue, of course, national, but indeed global consequences, right? Ripples in the pond.
Starting point is 00:41:05 They're replacing it with a bass pro shop. Yeah. I just feel like they could like redesign the CDC to like have more of a brass bass pro shop vibe to. Charles Barkley lives there now. Yeah. It's just his house. When you guys have him on the show, he'll be like, fun fact about me, my house used to be,
Starting point is 00:41:26 do you guys remember the Center for Disease Control and Prevention? Remember back then? So just a little bit more on the food stuff, because this is one of those things that is like fairly invisible. Like a lot of the jobs that are being taken away and like, you know, the government spending that's being cut are these things that are like just don't get any attention. And like Donald Trump only cares about
Starting point is 00:41:49 things that get ratings. And so these are the invisible, you know, scaffolding behind the scenes that like saves people's lives. And it just under a Trump administration where, you know, as we talked about in the run up to the election, like the scary thing about this second administration, the first administration, he like, you remember that first meeting with Obama where he was like, what the fuck just happened? And he seemed scared. And he was like, I'm going to let the professionals handle this one like I kind of did this as a joke and it took him a while to like ramp up his indignation about not being able to like you know do whatever he wanted and now he is doing whatever he wants and we it's he's he's not meant to leash a complicated government that is
Starting point is 00:42:41 saving many people's lives in very boring ways he's just like he doesn't have the attention span for it. So, you know, the Dr. J. Glenn Morris, whose name I don't know, never wanted to know, the director of Emerging Pathogen Institute at the University of Florida is, you know, making sense of this and has said that he helped create FoodNet in 1995, and we've been benefiting from it unknowingly for the past, however many years it's been since 1995. I've got to think at least 15. 15, does that seem right? Anyways, he said, essentially CDC is, is backing off one of their best surveillance systems. And this article that is in, I think it's like on CBS.com, but it just keeps adding, they're like,
Starting point is 00:43:27 which is bad because in April, Reuters reported that the Food and Drug Administration was suspending a quality control program for testing dairy products. A week before that, Reuters reported that the Trump administration was suspending a quality control program for its food testing laboratories as a result of staff cuts. That news came two weeks after, and it just keeps going with the Department of Health and Human Services announced wide-ranging cutbacks at federal health agencies, including scientists who tested food and drugs for contamination of or deadly bacteria. That news came two weeks after the Times reported the FDA delayed by nearly three years, implementation of a requirement. And this is kind of a harsh requirement. Like, this is anti-business, all right?
Starting point is 00:44:15 When I explain it, you'll understand why they had to cut this. A requirement that food companies and grocers rapidly trace contaminated food through the supply chain and pull it off the shelves. Okay, guys, let's not go crazy here. Wow. All right. Orwell, yeah. The day before that, the Times published, the newspaper ran a related article that noted at the FDA, freezes on government credit card spending. They were just like they froze the FDA's credit cards.
Starting point is 00:44:45 that they used to, like, fund their research, they froze that so they could no longer staff, it impeded staff members from buying food to perform routine tests for deadly bacteria. So, like, they... Who were they my wife, freezing credit cards? I mean, what the hell? Right. Let me spend. That's my draft king's credit card, babe.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Yeah. Did you not think about the cash back? The list keeps going. The Times also reported that the administration has slowed or slowed. Some testing of grocery items for hazardous bacteria monitoring. Monitoring of shellfish. So far, the specific ones that they've stopped monitoring are dairy and shellfish. You got to keep an eye on them.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Those are the two. Those are two of the ones that I want somebody keeping an eye on, I feel like. Yeah. Also, just to be clear, we are doing gallows humor. There is no whistle like a graveyard whistle. So I think it's safe to say that we are. fans of this kind of infrastructure, it's kind of like how, if you're human, you don't notice that your heart is beating all the time, right? Until it's not. And that's when you run into a problem.
Starting point is 00:45:57 This kind of stuff is, man, you just, you just, you know, I'm thinking about it. Don't get in your head about it. Don't get in your head about it. Oh, what's happening. Oh, bad, I don't like it. I don't like it, bad. It's like for any time, if you want to know what it was like to smoke weed with me. And the answers we do. I think it's going too fast. I think it's going too fast. I see everything.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I can't take a deep enough breath. Am I breathing here? Do my hands? Are they? Are they? Are they? Are they? Are they?
Starting point is 00:46:34 Are they? But this is pretty, pretty concerning. And I don't, I obviously, I don't think any of us want to feel like a Ta-Ton death march or whatever, but the stuff that is getting cut, I think, really speaks to you guys' idea about incompetence versus malevolence. Like, how can you be that specifically bad at innocuous things that often? I think, yesterday we were talking about this thing that Trump's doing with the, with inviting policy where he's like keep saying well windmills like don't work when the wind stops blowing and the you know you can't have energy produced by windmill and like really and like the windmills are killing uh whales and like these things that seem really dumb and like have no scientific backing but they come from a bunch of research like millions of dollars of research being done by the smartest people like the smartest ivy league graduates all
Starting point is 00:47:45 all come out and the jobs that pay the most are like going to work for oil companies and doing research on like how to counter program like messaging about climate change. How to redact. Right. How to redact research. I'm a professional redacter. I make $900,000 a year. So like there's all this energy and money being put into whatever is going to make the most money. In that case, like getting rid of any environmental policies that stand in the way of oil companies making as much money as they possibly can. And I think with shit like this, where like these policies get in the way of food companies being able to make as much money as they want to. And they're like annoying to food companies to have to like pay attention to this shit. So all this stuff that
Starting point is 00:48:36 seems like malevolence is just them doing the, you know, take. taking away of any policies that get in the way of companies, you know, get in the way of money, like flowing as quickly and, you know, frictionlessly as possible to the biggest corporations. Like, I think that's where all of this is coming from. Regulatory capture. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Another scary thing, too, like getting back to, is it Minarez? Is that how you pronounce Susan's?
Starting point is 00:49:05 Yeah. That's what I'm going. I heard a newscaster say it that way, and that's where we're going with. That's what we're, that's what Wolf said. so that's that's the same who you can't stop watching but my favorite that's the scariest thing is that she is someone who's fucked up enough for trump to be okay to a point to that position to begin with and this person won't even this is a bridge too far yes what they're asking her to do a trump appointee right she's like well that's gonna like be so bad right like obviously
Starting point is 00:49:37 i can't do that and they're like well then you're fired this is not a holdover from like the Jimmy Carter administration. No, right. This is fresh. This is a fresh hire. Fresh. I take a D plus at this point. Like you said like like a heat seeking missile for like being wrong.
Starting point is 00:49:54 The exact wrong move. It's not even like we're asking for an A plus, you know, because that's impossible. It's like anything but an F minus. Like if we can get a D plus, a C minus is a good. Lowest standards possible. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think we're inside a system that has been fucked by unregulated
Starting point is 00:50:11 capitalism for decades and decades. And so anything that is just worsening that is going to seem like it's exactly the wrong thing because it is. It's exactly the worst possible thing that could happen to the country at this point. But because our options are either the existing market-driven thing that everybody, we now have like three decades where people are like, no more of that. And, you know, there's no opportunity for socialism, or, like, they'll find a way to, like, try and fight that away. So there's no, like, official version of, like, a left-wing opposition. The only other option is fascism. And so that's what we now have. Yes, yeah. The final resort, right, of fear.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Yeah. I think also, dear Zyke, gang, how the U.S. slipped from descriptions of civilians to consumers. You hear that more often, right? What happened to the pension? It became the 401K, which comprises no less than 40% of the stock market. Let me look, sorry, guys, I stumbled on this soapbox. Let me step off this. Yeah, get up there.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Careful, careful, careful, careful. Careful, careful. Careful, careful. Oh, geez. Well, we're speaking to the choir while those are still allowed, right, in modern day America. And how weird is the only choir. Yeah, that's actually the only music we're going to have is choirs. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:51:45 To collect your universal basic income, you will have to go sing in the choir. Oh, gosh, yeah, full handmade's tail. But how could this, how could this be a thing we cut? Like, who learns about the idea of food-borne illness and says, I don't know, man, kind of corporations whose job for whom it is expensive to not do food-borne illnesses, I think those are the people. And, yeah, but that would be my, that would be my assumption, because, yeah, it does, it does seem almost, like, when you're just viewing it out of context, it's like, it seems weird that they keep doing exactly the wrong thing, like, on purpose. But yeah. The vaccine thing, I don't. Like that one's just like ideologically driven, incorrect, is going to kill a lot of people in a way that like seems like it's pretty going to be pretty transparently their fault. But this, that's not going to help. It seems to me where this is always to your point, it's either business and money or quote unquote traditional values. And I'm going to push actually back against you, Jack, where I think this is a traditional values thing where they want. want to get back to the era of getting so sick whenever you eat, you know, like back to the
Starting point is 00:53:03 good old days. Yeah, pray and then like have a doctor travel by foot from six hours away. Yeah, yeah. Bloodletting. Like, we need to bring back bloodletting. Make America bloodlet again. Make America die from diarrhea again. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Yeah. Diary of deaths. Time is come. More death by diarrhea. Yeah. Myspace.com slash diarrhea death. Here's how it happens. I love it.
Starting point is 00:53:28 My space diarrhea, but this is how it, this is how it happens. It's never going to be a full frontal thing. It's going to be some information management on, you know, whatever your local favorite Fox News is, where someone, someone says, hey, this just in toilet paper prices are through the roof, which has a lot of people talking about whether diarrhea is good for you. We're going now to the last doctor. Left to the Trump Or just the last doctor The final doctor
Starting point is 00:54:03 The last doctor By the way Many people die of diarrhea every year I should say Especially young children Right Yeah Well there's gonna be more
Starting point is 00:54:11 Yeah it should be more common It should be a thing that we're all talking about You know That's the issue Because it's funny And that'll be funny I'll make things funny Make America
Starting point is 00:54:21 And unavoidable Can we laugh again We're making comedy legal again folks Make America Go for Fall again. You can't say anything anymore. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:57:58 Listen to PodMeets World on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we are back. Blake, how did it feel to take us to break? God, I think I may need Tommy Johns after throwing the commercial so hard. I think I really hurt my elbow. Go on, man. I'll say it.
Starting point is 00:58:25 I'll say it. I'm not too proud. Blake, you look taller. Thank you. Thank you. I feel so tall. I feel taller. Have you guys met anybody who seems like they got a lot taller in adulthood?
Starting point is 00:58:37 And you think that they might have gotten that leg breaking surgery? The gadda-go surgery? I have one person who I met at a reunion and was like, what the fuck? Did they really? That's a very painful procedure. I don't know. No, they would never admit it. But they are, they went from.
Starting point is 00:58:56 being, I think, like, a normal-sized person to, like, officially a full-on, like, tall, tall person, where, like, the first thing you notice is, like, oh, you're, like, tall. You stand out in a crowd over everybody else. You got to look at the shoes. I did. I spent a lot of time looking at the shoes. But it was all, unfortunately, it was all I talked about, the whole reunion, and everybody was like, all right, man, like, could you?
Starting point is 00:59:21 Buddy, come on. Maybe you should start drinking again. we see CCTV footage and it's just like Jack staring at like a clown that they hired on stilts and it's like Jack Jesus this person you don't even know this guy you didn't go to school with this guy
Starting point is 00:59:35 this isn't even your high school why are you here all right we've got big news for Wizard of Oz fans who like to just Wizard of Oz fans hopefully enjoy our like into like subdoms
Starting point is 00:59:53 And just getting kicked in the shins repeatedly because we talked about how the sphere, their latest offering is going to be the Wizard of Oz, but like remade for the sphere. And what they've done is they've taken the shots from the movie and they have expanded them outward so that now like you can see just like bare parts of the wall in Dorothy's home. and like some furniture and like one of them is like Uncle Ben or whatever her uncle's name is just like standing in a doorway like looking at his dick just like looking downward like it's in real trouble AI has real trouble with like eyeline you know yeah you may have noticed like that they're always like not looking necessarily in the right direction none of it's story building either you're right it's like I wonder what Vaz her grandmother would have bought and kept in the corner of the house.
Starting point is 01:00:55 It's like, we don't need this. It's just not necessary. Oh, Ikea? That's surprising. Cheap. It's also Uncle Henry, who is, uh, softly, softly considering masturbation on the yeah, yeah, exactly, just because we called it Uncle Ben, which is from Spider-Man. So, and Rice.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Yeah, was Rice. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Canonically, they're the same uncle, actually. What if I just like, didn't refuse to a hit? Drop this. The world. Whose world is this?
Starting point is 01:01:25 The world's yours, dude. Go. That's right. So that's kind of, that head cannon stuff is cool. But now what we're seeing with the AI reckoning is head cannon for a head that does not exist. Right? There are too many. It sounds deep unless you think about it.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Nobody think about it. And speak on that, Ben. All right. Just consider it what we would call. podcast true uh so that's right thanks guys well i don't know i liked
Starting point is 01:02:00 you guys liked playing pink floyd and watching wizard of the odds wizard of the odds wow plug me yeah plug me into the internet wizard of the odds the so head canon is like just like all that shit like stuff that's like kind of made up but like
Starting point is 01:02:18 fan fiction ideas and stuff like that yeah yeah there i think it's many times better than what like there are fan theories that end up being better than what the writers come up with like during the Harry Potter craze people had this like fan theory that it was actually like Neville Longbottom was secretly the chosen one and like Harry was like a distraction who like heroically was distracting Voldemort from Neville Longbottom and then like like it was going to end up being this and it would like be this cool morality story of like no just because it's not all like based on lineage and eugenics and yes you know it could uh it could
Starting point is 01:03:06 be this surprising thing where this guy with a name that essentially translates to long but he got too hot was the problem he became too hot as an actor yeah there's two break out yeah they couldn't afford them they could not and instead it was just like no Harry Potter's the the show's The other really, there was another one with the Twilight universe that I just like don't remember the details of the Twilight universe well enough to like explain. But it was so much better. It's not. And I'll never forget myself. I will never forget myself. You're so hard on yourself. It's fine. Stop helping him out, Blake. This is how it ends. Wait, but the, the wizard of Oz, right? The wizard of the goddamn Oz. Yeah, yeah, respect of the name. The damn on the Ohio State University. Yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Think about it. Think about it, folks. Yeah, it's a fascinating series of young adult novels, but like any other young adult fiction or film adaptations thereof, I would argue it is vulnerable to being propagandized. Because it's all about parables, right? you learn a lesson you do your little joseph campbell uh you you you find adversity you find victory you you uh like t s elliot said uh the essence of exploration is you return to the place you left
Starting point is 01:04:35 and you know he was always fucking saying that it was it was it kind of got annoying after a little while t s elliott i never got t s elliott well uh he spent a lot of his life really cosplaying british but I believe but he's definitely from went to the same high school as me no no way really yeah oh wow really nice try asshole I know where you're from yeah you're from Boston you're from fucking south yeah oh don't you're fucking loser you vacationed at revere yeah cheers you see sally went to the cheers but I like don't know what time anything is I think that's the one that went to my school. The one of what? The famous fuckers.
Starting point is 01:05:27 The category of fuckers. I think that's a great fake British. I also like how. Sorry, it was Madonna. It was Madonna. It was Madonna. Commonly confused. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:42 T.S. I'm tired. No, like, I have to Google it too, man. I have to look up the pictures. Justin, which one? Milton Academy, is that the? You're still in the research for it. Oh, it was Milton.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Milton. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Attended Milton Academy in Massachusetts for a preparatory year. All right. We're good here, Justin. It can stay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:06 All right. So, anyways, keep all that. All right. So anyways, yes, Wizard of Oz, very powerful icon that can be filled with any meaning that people want to put on it. It takes up massive space in the shared consciousness. And that allows people with power to come in and use it as they would like.
Starting point is 01:06:31 But we've got good news, folks. We're getting a contemporary Wizard of Oz series on Amazon Prime. So you know it's going to make a splash because shows that cost a billion dollars. Always good. And are based on the Lord of the Rings. just go there and, like, just disappear and don't exist. So it's going to be on Amazon Prime, and it's going to be executive produced by Gwen Stefani and Blake Shelton.
Starting point is 01:06:57 What? Swish, fucking way downtown. Curry from the logo. It's good. But, okay, so now they're thinking a little bit outside the box, you guys. Oh, wow. This version of The Wizard of Oz is going to be a mutual. Music-infused, Y-A retelling of Wizard of Oz, which the original movie was, I guess you could say music-infused, and also about a young adult.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Okay, we'll walk with you. You bought yourself another 30 seconds. Go on. We got another thing. In Dorothy, the name of this. Dorothy, it will be pronounced like in the Golden Girls, the Yellow Brick Road. will be, quote, a metaphor for the challenges and choices facing young adults today. Whereas the original Yellow Brick Road had no metaphorical anything.
Starting point is 01:07:56 And these are the first people who are like, what if it was a fucking metaphor, though, dog? This needs to be about the gold standard. Yes, right. That's what it needs to be based off now. That was originally what. Yeah. What if it was a metaphor for the gold standard?
Starting point is 01:08:13 Hypothetically, hear me out. It's the worst metaphor you could ever fucking imagine. The gold standard. People are a little concerned that a film franchise that has historically been a fixture in the gay community is now in the hands of a MAGA couple. And when I heard them described as a MAGA couple, I was like, all right, guys, Gwen Stefani, no doubt was the first concert that I ever went to without my parents. Ah, okay, important caveat. six years ago. It was a reunion tour.
Starting point is 01:08:53 I think we all have that, we all have that moment too. Maybe it's maybe we are bubbled in our experience, but I don't know about you guys. I always have that similar moment. Just off air, we were talking about this. And you guys let me know that apparently
Starting point is 01:09:09 Gwen Stefani from no doubt is somewhat right wing. And it's just always. surprising to me because I'm like, oh, you did SCA though, right? Yeah, like a thing that, yeah. So that's what I was about to get into the fact that like I thought like Gwen Stefani was, you know, just married to a right wing guy and was still, uh, and also a major cultural appropriator, uh, but like, I didn't think she was like full, full conservative.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Apparently she's been pretty conservative. Again, even though ska music is at its core, like anti-fascist, uh, She's very involved in one of those apps where you can pay money to pray with her. That app is owned by Peter Thiel, and she responded to an interview on social media with a guy who acts in Christian, like plays Jesus in a Christian movie, saying, wow, Jonathan Rumi, you are a powerful, inspirational human. What an enlightening, intelligent, beautiful interview. Thank you for being you. that interview took place on the Tucker Carlson show
Starting point is 01:10:18 yeah yeah there's a whole like hour and a half long dive that goes into like her background and how this actually shouldn't surprise anybody and we'll link off to that in the footnotes but yeah it's from who
Starting point is 01:10:32 mohs but anyways it's kind of a bummer kind of a bummer but Dorothy should be a should be hoot that everybody will stop and watch and I think it's going to finally happen
Starting point is 01:10:50 for Amazon Prime you guys this is the one this is the one Prime Video Jeff is right now like he just walked out of that pitch meeting we set up and he's going babe this is the one
Starting point is 01:11:04 remember how you always told me Wizard of Oz wasn't propagandistic enough well we got it wrong if there was like some metaphorical content in the Wizard of Oz. I don't know. I don't think the music's going to be as good.
Starting point is 01:11:19 You don't think so? I don't know. You're going to look so silly when this comes out in nine years when this movie finally comes out. None of the other Wizard of Oz. Like somewhere out, no, somewhere out there, that's fival. Over the Rainbow. Over the Rainbow, if I only had a brain. Yeah, if I only had a brain, all the songs, I'm wicked.
Starting point is 01:11:43 skips. Skips in my book. Whoa. However, Wicked too. You go back and check out Gwen Stefani's latest country album, Neri a skip in sight, all bangers from the beginning to end. It's just that album.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Yeah. It's a shame she got the same critiques that Beyonce did when she released her country album. I know. Can you imagine dropping a country album the same year as Beyonce. off their country album. And it's just an outright, like, just skip, nobody even notices. Yeah. What? You did what?
Starting point is 01:12:23 That's why, that's also, by the way, folks, that's what Miles is working on today. Yes, he is, his country album. Yeah, he's sitting out to work on his country album. Congrats to Miles. I listen to a little bit of it. And I, yeah, it's great. It's great. Just transformative.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Yeah, yeah, it's great. It's great. period. Some of the songs actually, like, it seems like they might be metaphorical. If you think about it, yeah. That's Miles. You expect that for Miles. Everything's so metaphorical with metaphorical Miles, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Well, Ben Bolin, such a pleasure having you on the podcast, as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Oh, yes, you can find, follow, hang out with a couple of shows. I do stuff they don't want you to know,
Starting point is 01:13:11 ridiculous history featuring the one and only Jack and Miles not too infrequently. I mean, pretty infrequently. At this point, yeah, I just like how I just guilt you guys at the end of every show. Oh, also, stuff they don't want you to know is going to the high seas. We are part of a Virgin Voyages true crime cruise that is happening. This is a true story on October 10th through the 15th. We're going to do an episode about the Bermuda Triangle live in the Bermuda Triangle.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Check it out. You can also find me, as Miles says anywhere, there's an at sign in a burst of creativity, calling myself at Ben Bowlin. You maniac. At Ben Bowling. What could it mean? I think there's metaphorical content in there. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying, Ben?
Starting point is 01:14:06 Yes, absolutely. Gwen Stefani, no doubt. Hey, come on. Oh, come on. Too soon. Too soon for a callback. I have recently, for fans of mundanity and wholesomeness, I have recently done some kind of like ear washing or like eye wash kind of stuff
Starting point is 01:14:33 by looking at this guy in Thailand who just saves dogs. His name is Nile Harbison, and everything that he is oriented toward in his life is just him finding, with his crew, finding street dogs in Thailand, specifically attempting to save their lives and to give them good homes. That's pretty cool. That's awesome. Yeah. Well, sounds like an asshole. Yeah, that's cool. Well, how is he making money off of this?
Starting point is 01:15:06 what's his angle I shouldn't have ended it with yeah well I think that's the only punctuation I can understand is yeah well that's my period Blake
Starting point is 01:15:19 yeah speaking of your period where can people find you follow you and is there work media you've been enjoying I'm on I'm on it and people can find me at Blake Wexler
Starting point is 01:15:31 on all social media tonight and tomorrow I'm doing stand up Wilkesbury, Pennsylvania, and then these shows, tickets aren't on sale yet, but I will be in Asheville, September 26th, Chicago, December 7th, and a big show in Brooklyn on January 16th, 16th, 16th, big show, teenth in January. And a thing to work of media, it's not your Jan 6th show, that one's unlisted. No, no, no, no, that was taken. I try to do it, everything. single year.
Starting point is 01:16:07 I'm going to be real. I'll finally have had 10 days to recover from the party that I've been doing hosting. So my wife is a writer and she wrote an article for Nat Geo last month. Speaking of animals, ticks are taking over city parks. Here's how to avoid this. Yeah, that's good. So that's a thing. If you're a dog person and you live in a city, check your dog.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Even if, like, you're in Central Park or whatever the city's park is, you should, I know it sounds silly, but you should check your dog for ticks after they're playing in the grass and stuff because we found ticks on our dog, like here in New York. So, yeah, so that's, it's a nice, another nice piece of news, but it's a good, it's a good article. And if you're not like all the sheeple who have dogs as pets, and if you have ticks as pets, check your tick for dogs. to see if it got stuck on a dog when you're playing with it in the park. Check your tics for dogs. Hey, Jack. Hey, Jack.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Where can people learn more about you, man? Oh, man. So many places. And your rescue tick that you have. That you've dedicated to. Thank you. He saved me from a life without Lyme disease. I'm enjoying a work of media from at David, please stop.
Starting point is 01:17:34 who wrote when I'm broke when I get paid again I'm going to start saving shit for real this time no unnecessary shit me when I get paid
Starting point is 01:17:42 Google show me your most frivolous and worldly things I love the use of worldly there worldly's great privilege
Starting point is 01:17:51 your most frivolous and worldly things wonderful that's at David please stop or a sad little man is their
Starting point is 01:18:01 Twitter handle you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien at Blue Sky at Jack Obie, the number one. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist, I believe it is. Yes, that's correct. We're at the Daily Zitegeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode, wherever you're listening to it.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Open the episode. Go to where all the words are underneath the title of the show. And underneath that description, you'll find the footnotes. This is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy with Miles out, Super Producer Justin Connor steps in and tells you a song that he thinks you might enjoy and also kind of gives you a little poetry while he's at it. Justin, is there a song that you think that people might enjoy?
Starting point is 01:18:51 Yeah, so I don't usually recommend dance music on here for some reason, but seeing as how I've started the DJ again, I've been listening to a lot more of it, and also it's Friday. So this song sounds like if you put pop vocals over the start menu music in the Sega fighting game. And it's very uptempo. It's very fun. It'll get your weekend started right. So this track is called In Your Arms by Shift Key, spelled K3Y, and you can find that in the footnotes.
Starting point is 01:19:21 The Daily Zike is a production of IHeartRadio for more podcasts from My Heart Radio. Visit the IHeartRadio app Apple Podcast for wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this week. we're back you've got an episode tomorrow that's you know the highlights from this week's season and on Monday we're trying a new thing we have a we have a thing called oops all overrated underrated where we just
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