The Daily Zeitgeist - RFK's Trendtral Park Bear Murder Mystery 8/5: Anthony Ammirati, Dumbphones, Donald Trump, RFK's Central Park Bear, Imane Khelif

Episode Date: August 5, 2024

In this edition of Trendtral Park Bear Murder Mystery, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Anthony Ammirati's bulge costing him an Olympic medal, the return of dumbphones, Trump's concer...ted effort to steal the election… again, RFK's bonkers Central Park bear story, the misleading transphobic panic over a women's boxing match at the Olympics  and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 so i got an unofficial polling result from the jersey shore graphic t-shirt stores for the upcoming election oh yeah we got at least 17 trump t-shirts uh-huh including uh miss me yet with cartoon south park trump biden's greatest. This is with Biden's face crying. Biden's greatest accomplishment is showing people how great Trump was. I am more mega now than ever. We got. Let me just tally this up. Zero for the Biden Harris campaign.
Starting point is 00:00:44 And we've got at least a dozen for the hawk to a girl hawk to a 24 there are hawk to a shirt there are hawk to a shirts everywhere dude the right loves hawk to a girl they love her they like yeah no it's written in like the Biden Vance font and it says Hawk to a 24 spit on that thing. Why didn't Trump just pick her? I know actually would have been much, a much more solid pick. And how many did you see people buy?
Starting point is 00:01:24 How many purchases did you witness aside from like the iconography to be like this store is down with trump and i didn't see anybody buying one i think i saw like one mega hat uh right on on the on the boards yeah and then there's like one house that is like just completely i mean not there there are trump flags there's yeah i've seen a handful of trump flags but there's one that's like completely trump flagged out and then the person was like getting out of their car and like all their gear was trump's trump shit so he's here for you in jersey. And I mean, these people are like mostly Pennsylvania people. So not good for us.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Good for the Hawk to a girl when she eventually goes on tour and starts doing political rallies. I'm Jess Casaveto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. based Shekinah church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted just like mine. Through powerful in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts,
Starting point is 00:02:59 the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:03:29 When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner.
Starting point is 00:03:54 The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports,
Starting point is 00:04:27 where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys.
Starting point is 00:04:43 I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire?
Starting point is 00:04:59 Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you
Starting point is 00:05:18 get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this week trend edition of a production of iheart radio yeah this is a podcast where you take a deep dive into american shared consciousness miles it's monday morning it's the one where we catch people up on what was happening over the weekend yep uh catch people up on what is happening with us yeah and how are you doing i am in a garage good i was talked out of seeing deadpool versus wolverine by someone oh really yeah i was that was like a an interesting
Starting point is 00:05:58 conversation i had like it's fine but it's like someone who like they're a filmmaker they were like it just felt like the movie was created to create a bunch of fight scenes and not really like a movie, but it's just like, everything's a reason to just start fucking each other up. And I'm like, oh, well, yeah, that's fine. I mean, I saw Twisters to watch guys get sucked off by the sky. So I think, I don't know. I think I'm gonna have to go,
Starting point is 00:06:26 but I, her magic. Yeah. I feel like we owe it to our listeners to, to go and just have really washed takes on. Oh man. Who is this Wolverine guy? What's his deal?
Starting point is 00:06:41 I thought Jalen Rose was going to show up and he didn't. Nice fab five reference, Miles. I live in 19, I'm squarely in 30 years ago, mentally. But yeah, other than that, it's been nice. I've been watching the Olympics. And dude, the baby fucking loves it. The baby loves the Olympics? We were watching the triple jump jump the women's triple jump and the way this fool thought he could triple jump just from watching it over and over i thought he
Starting point is 00:07:10 would have fucking hurt himself he was like track and field really surprises me every time with just like i don't know how bizarre the actions are like how weird like the just like you go from one body type to you go from like giant like hulk of a person who's just really good at like yeah spinning around and throwing fucking hammers for some reason yeah to like the human pogo sticks in the high jump. Yeah, like human giraffe looking people. Yeah, they're like giraffes. Yeah, it does. It feels like if an alien was watching the Olympics, they'd be like, oh, humans are all dog breeds. Yeah, they have the tall sprungy ones.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And then you've got the thick hammer throw guys. Then you got the dude with the thick fucking boner trying to do pole vault. All types of human beings are represented in the Olympic Games. Too damn big for the Olympics. We'll get to him.
Starting point is 00:08:16 But first, we do like to get to know each other a little bit better by telling the people something we think is underrated something we think is overrated uh miles you want to kick us off with something you think's underrated underrated i honestly how quickly the olympics like puts me into like a diet jingoism state yes yeah for all of my misgivings about this country it's politics the grievances i have against how the olympics are organized and put on yeah i just can't help but when it's like who runs faster across the
Starting point is 00:08:54 the circle around the circle i'm like go oh i found myself i found myself chanting USA with my little nephews. Oh no. After there, but I got angry. The 100. Come on. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was,
Starting point is 00:09:10 I was kind of part of me thought Noah Lyles looked a little bit shook. Like she carry Richardson. I definitely could tell. I was like, Oh, you don't look like the races I've seen you when you win. You just, she has like a look in her eye.
Starting point is 00:09:22 It'd be great to get second place, but no, it's just funny how quickly like you like there's like this like uh like black and east sprinter guy from japan and i'm like doing the leonardo caprio thing i'm like oh oh it's me i'm like babe get in here there's not only rui hachimura there's this guy too um and yeah just like seeing that is like super fun and i remember getting really like invested in the uh mixed four by 400 relay where the u.s broke the record the shattered the olympic and world record like in their first heat like qualifying heat and then lost what in the gold medal race to the netherlands uh because
Starting point is 00:10:07 femke bowl was like this yeah yeah femke bowl was running the anchor leg and just steamed them but anyway like it's just funny to be like i'm like i'm like oh go like the noises i'm making are so fucking weird um and yeah like all these i think the other part is it allows me to sort of remind myself like what is actually good about like a country is like there are people like that they're all kinds of different people who have all kinds of different like aims that they have like with their athletics and they get to act it out and like for them personally as athletes and like the purest form of competition which is just like you know say i'm an olympian or whatever are here to take a gold medal yeah and so yeah it allowed me to be like yeah man
Starting point is 00:10:50 there's good people in our country i think for the most part if i don't look into social media posts and not even that i like do that to like heal myself but you're able to see like the positivity well like when you see someone who's like just very joyful not even for like the u.s like all athletes you just kind of you you get what it means to do it um and i became and also along with that the underrated thing is how insanely jealous i become watching the olympics like i don't know if i've said how good people the reason i left politics was i was watching the 2010 vancouver olympics and this like skier like won you know the gold medal and like they were crying they were so like you know happy for themselves and I was like yeah I was like I don't have
Starting point is 00:11:31 anything like this like I don't have a thing where like if I did it I would cry because I did it and then I was like trying to think I'm like what is a thing that I could that I want to do that I want to dedicate myself to not necessarily that it's athletics or whatever but right is there something i can give myself to like that and that's how you ended up in that horrible triple triple jumping accident yeah yeah yeah i needed broke both my ankles real bad yeah i didn't realize the olympics had that much of a hold on you that's i definitely got there with the noah lyles though that sure sure that fucked me all the way up oh yeah sure sure i had that with uh star like watching one of the
Starting point is 00:12:12 star wars's made me choose where i wanted to go to college what yeah uh go on yeah yeah i watched the first star wars and there was like it was so stupid it was like the jedi like i was deciding between georgetown and penn and there was like something about the jedi that i was like that's kind of like the fucking jesuits at georgetown so fucking dumb i just it doesn't make any sense no but it's it's weird how just certain little things like nudge you in a way like at the time i was just i was too i hated working in like i just hated it and i was like drinking more than i ever had because i was just like trying to escape like the bleakness of it all because i went in so idealistic and became you know radicalized pretty quickly um and then i
Starting point is 00:13:07 was like nope nope i want to cry going downhill i need to find my olympics whatever that is and so anyway so now when i see that too now i'm like oh you lucky motherfuckers look at you yeah let's fuck you thank you so great um all. My underrated is how easy it is to die in the ocean. I am on Jersey Shore. I'm working from Jersey Shore this week. So there are these things that I think I can do just because I can imagine myself doing them. Like when I'm in the nosebleeds at a concert i'm always like if i got a running start and like jumped from here i could make it all the way to the court right like i probably sprained my
Starting point is 00:13:52 ankle but like i i could do that what's i'm sorry can you describe this distance again from where to where like if you're in a like stadium where it's like a steep like down you know have you ever had that thought like if i just like ran and jumped straight out yeah i could i could make it yeah because i keep going outward that's where the rise versus run debate yeah yeah i think no it's definitely not true but it's i i don't i've never been in a stadium without having that thought um i had always for similar reasons i'd always assumed i could swim in like rough ocean water like i could in a pool you know if i get tired i just like put on my back for a little while yeah yeah yeah oh i am an experienced swimmer in pools uh i am not an experienced swimmer in oceans um and but i decided to try an open water
Starting point is 00:14:49 ocean swimming course uh yesterday uh with my with my brother-in-law who is an experienced swimmer in uh the ocean it was freezing there was like a ton of waves um i was like on they're like all right just like get out past the breaks it's cold so you know just like the water is going to take your breath away uh by the time i like got out to the place where the course began i was like oh i'm going to die i'm like oh wow you're like this is how it ends it was yes it was like swimming on a fucking inside a washing machine it was just like could not you can't stop and float on your
Starting point is 00:15:33 back in case anybody's like thinking about trying this you can't stop and float on your back because you're just gonna get like flipped over by a wave um I did yeah it was so scary it was so much worse than i could have possibly imagined this is really just like that bro thinking you know that like that men have
Starting point is 00:15:56 where like if we see if we like there's like this idea like i could handle a lot like yeah sure in your mind you can but does that relate to like the skills of swimming in open water like it makes me think of this thing that uh always comes up is like how half of men like in a survey believe they can land a plane like without any training like i am that yeah you know what i mean if like just give me the headphones tell me what flips to flap and yeah we're bringing this thing fucking home. Um, and it's like so similar where I'm like, well, you know, like when I hear that, I'm like, how arrogant do you have to be?
Starting point is 00:16:34 But then I'm like, but how dumb are these dudes though? For real? Like, yeah, I feel like with proper instruction at the very least, like experts are like, no, dude, no, you will not. You will not. I was watching Castaway being like, why doesn't he just swim out through the waves i don't get it like what's he anyways i they had people out there in case some dipshit got the idea he could do this just because he could swim laps in a pool uh immediately like just got to the start of the course waved him down
Starting point is 00:17:03 held on to his board, and then went back in. Good for you. He was completely humiliated by the sea. Not humiliated, humbled. Humbled by the sea. Yes, exactly. It is more powerful than I. The season of humility.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I am in my season of humility, aka your 40s. Am I right, folks? I'm still 39. I'm about to go hit the pacific ocean right now jack to show you i'm not you should be fine you should be fine yeah please write my obit yeah uh like and make it funny um okay what are we doing overrated overrated so in watching the olympics and someone who competed at the lowest levels in high school track and field um i you know i have a bit of insight into watching some of these athletes when they get on the starting line or prepare to do a throw or a jump attempt um i think acting like again
Starting point is 00:17:56 not acting but the visuals of being like so in the zone like you have an angry face i think is a little bit overrated and i only say that because i juxtapose that with the australian high jumper nicola oleslager who again i believe your her her approach style is very her approach is boings it is she takes a series of boings before doing the big boing yeah over the high jump bar yeah and she is laughing she is having a fucking larp dude she is loving every fucking second of it um which is actually i think really that's where i was like this is so wild like she gets up to there like for her approach she starts like clapping and people are like all right yeah yeah like like all right and she starts like going like her face like lights up yeah and then i caught i think she was saying something like i love you jesus so then i started looking at her yeah huge evangelical christian you're not gonna take that away from her she's on that good jesus she's on that good g that good j i'm sorry yeah yeah um and anyway so she takes her attempts and
Starting point is 00:19:11 then afterwards she immediately sits down to write in a journal yeah and everyone was like yo what she she's journaling she's like this got this like happy horse girl energy um and apparently i was like reading into it she like she writes down kind of like what her um like she rates herself on the attempt like one to ten like it's purely like a self-assessment and then she'll note like okay what can be improved into the next attempt or whatever yeah she did not beat um yaroslava mahuchik who is like the fucking the goat right now um yeah who also like had an interesting goat right now um yeah also like interesting yeah she also had a really interesting like not interesting she always like got in a sleeping
Starting point is 00:19:50 bag after each attempt yeah i think just like to kind of keep her legs warm which i get it was like raining the night before in paris but um it was just like it was interesting to see someone truly embrace like the smiling the happy the positive as a way to inspire your most intense athletic effort because i think we all revert to like yeah like and i as someone who's like really interested in the field of like positive psychology and this like kind of you know how we think of our minds like we always talk about the deficiencies that we can always identify but like where are the margins to help out like on the other side of that like the positive um yeah so yeah it was just cool to see old prancy smiley and like oh prancing really
Starting point is 00:20:35 do well yeah like it wasn't like a bit was like all right you're just gassing yourself up and i'm like oh okay she cleared two literally jumping for joy yeah she looks like what i would be like if i suddenly had the ability to jump like that oh yeah yeah if i cleared two meters yeah yeah if i like suddenly like found myself in a body where i could just like fucking fly i would be like oh my god because when you watch like i did high jump in high school uh yeah and i just there is i just was not like i was too inflexible to do it really well oh man like the approach i had the other parts of themselves yeah yeah yeah but like watching like the artistry of really just getting over that bar it's it's poetry it's poetry. It's poetry. True poetry in motion. Yeah. My overrated is how much people want to see my phone number at CVS. Like they do the thing where the keypad,
Starting point is 00:21:33 like when I'm putting my phone number into the thing at the end to like, look, look up. It's like totally shielded. And when you type in the numbers, they appear as asterisks. Wow. Which I don't know is
Starting point is 00:21:46 anybody trying to like look over my shoulder to find out like it feels like how atms should look like they have it like all boxed in but it's to like hide your phone number so that people don't steal your identity and get more rewards points for you yeah i don't know why we're being so secretive about that i mean i yeah is it is that a huge vulnerability like do i need to start checking my shoulder when i punch in my cvs care rewards i give i give so many people my phone number like well you know i didn't know you have a t-shirt where it's just on the back it's just like just call me please i'm so lonely call me not maybe call me now please i need it yeah that's odd yeah i'm now look zeitgang do you know is like are we is that good
Starting point is 00:22:38 i'm sure there's a reason this makes sense uh but i don't want to hear it you know well it's also because like in other places like you go and you'll buy something in a place and like the display is so big that everybody can be like what's your credit card number what's that now yeah yeah all right yeah there are definitely places like on a plane if you try and buy something with your credit card and they're like okay read off the number to me you're like with a bunch of people around you. Yeah, you're like doing the whisper song. Hey, little mama, let me whisper in your ear. 4-1-4-3-
Starting point is 00:23:10 2-3-2-1-8- That's right. Alright, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Yeah. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Starting point is 00:23:34 And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.
Starting point is 00:24:10 It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk or wherever you get your podcasts. negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss a hundred percent of the shots you never take. Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's
Starting point is 00:25:08 better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Talk offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. And I just wanted to recognize the social media hero of the weekend,
Starting point is 00:26:40 Anthony Amirati, who missed making it to the pole vault finals yeah uh after getting caught on his dick on the way over the bar um yeah it's like a lot of rest in peace to his career it was i don't know like so it was first of all it was not a successful one you're looking at this Zafruder film or something I don't know I got some notes here was it totally the penis that disqualified him apparently it wasn't no it definitely was not
Starting point is 00:27:16 when you look into it they're like he actually hit it with his shins and was nearing his first the internet was immediately like this guy missed gold by like the girth of his dick and that was not incorrect that was incorrect uh it's yeah it turns out that was not right the internet was not right about this one yes but the sproing on his dick was on full display in a way that must have been like some consolation to him right i'm sure his
Starting point is 00:27:48 mentions are healthy his dms are healthy yeah i think there was like a underwear company too where they're like we want to sponsor this guy because yes please daddy what he got the gold medal in meat packet what is happening here but yeah this was definitely like one of the i love that just again the internet is like yeah man the guy's dick was i remember being like a guy's dick was too big that he lost in the olympics yeah and then like i watched him like oh no this guy just this was way too high for him completely there's no way he could have done it but again like you're saying because it was so graphically splangy splang on the bar. And look, we're shooting in 120 frame per second slow
Starting point is 00:28:30 motion. Maybe they're not going to replay that one in the elementary schools on Monday. I do wonder if this becomes because he got so much attention and I'm assuming we'll get some sort of um you know
Starting point is 00:28:46 sponsorship out of it i do wonder if this becomes a thing that people try to do after like if you hit your knee on the thing like okay and now i need to like get my dick on there so that i you know so that it looks like it was a dick based fault. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. Overall, it can go so much worse.
Starting point is 00:29:10 There was another pole vaulter. Did you see this one? Yes. I already know what you're talking about. It looked exactly like what would, what I imagine would happen if I tried to do it again, I probably wouldn't even get to this point, but he like got up so that the pole was straight but like it didn't get all the way there he was just like
Starting point is 00:29:30 stuck and then just fucking backwards shit backwards onto the ground yeah it looked like a like a like a like a looney tunes type cartoon where it's like the like wiley coyote thinks he can like pole vault everything and he gets right to like the apex like in an angular way and it's like the like wily coyote thinks he can like pole vault over thing and he gets right to like the apex like in an angular way and it's like yeah and then a like a light breeze he's like no no no no no no no no in the movie version he's going no no no no no no no no no no no no no um but yeah i'm trying to see if that amirati guy, he did not, he hasn't really made a comment. Hey. Yeah. He doesn't need to, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:08 There's, this is like, it's so funny. People are pointing out that a Japanese pole vaulter also got dilly whacked in the Olympics. Oh, same deal. It's like, it's like set off a bunch of listicles now. They're like, yeah. Times people's junk interfered with the olympics okay just fucking go do that somewhere else man thank you that's gotta be like a thing that they specifically talk about right like they have to just like the
Starting point is 00:30:39 coaching has to take that into account and be like yo like we talked about getting your dick out of the way yeah this is what you do this is one of your major problems yeah but again it's it's never something where it was truly like by the by the just the girth of his genitals that uh was the difference between a metal or not certainly looked that way but apparently not all right there was a story over the weekend that dumb phones or you know old nokia bricks are their sales are shooting up and um the top like private school which they call public school because apparently like when they started calling it that the like public school was what you did if you weren't rich enough to like have a personal tutor.
Starting point is 00:31:33 So anyways, like the number one boarding school in England is eaten and they are banning smartphones for their incoming class of first years and giving them all Nokia bricks instead. Ah. Which I feel like that will be pretty influential. Like, that's the way to get something started with parents, you know? Sure. It's like, this top school in England is doing this.
Starting point is 00:32:01 They're like, oh, they're doing it? Then maybe our kids shouldn't have a 13-inch iPad that they bring in there. Brian the editor, T9 baby, the T9 typing. I was sick with the T9 typing. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:16 I think that makes sense. That was my secret. The reason I'm so smart is because when I entered high school, I had a pager. Yeah. Okay. You weren't on your phone. I wasn't distracted. I was playing Drug Wars or Mafia on my TI-82.
Starting point is 00:32:34 TI-82. Did you hear that? TI-82. Not 83, not 84, 82. That's, I've dated myself. Those are the the games we played that's like all you did i read some articles with people who are like i tried to do like use a nokia for a week and here's my report and the texting is really what seems to people up is you know oh yeah i remember having to try and like abc like i remember like just running, that's how I typed in my head. Yeah. But that's what was great about T9. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:33:09 that's a whole other thing that was mostly on Sony Ericsson phones at the time. Um, but that's my, that's my cell phone nerd cred right there. My prediction is this is going to be like more and more of a thing like the, it's like that,
Starting point is 00:33:22 uh, a big school like this doing it is going to be influential with like a certain type of parent and also it just like me as a parent who like doesn't want their kid to get addicted to fucking screens like that it makes a lot of sense to me the closest is my niece got like a apple like whatever the lowest tier apple watch is just to be like well look if we need to hit you up like we get to you and if you need to hit us up you can get to us but like you're not able to do much else with an apple watch that feels like the that feels like the pager was like how i think kids in the 90s were like, how about a pager? So when you need to come home,
Starting point is 00:34:05 you have a little thing on your belt buckle or whatever on your fucking pocket or on your hat. Like I would wear it sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. To get access. But yeah, I think we're also like at peak technology like that,
Starting point is 00:34:17 you know, like where there's a ton of people who are like, I'm actually overwhelmed with the amount of shit the phone does. And yeah, it's time to take a step back. Sure, yeah. And it feels like it's probably healthy. I've just seen too many kids just hunched over their phones with their family and just completely in their own world, slack-jawed, looking like their brain has been taken offline.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Sure, it's just hard and even we do it like that's the other thing too i'm like thinking of what i'm modeling to like my kid yeah when he's like oh this motherfucker's on his phone again i'm like oh shit no i'm not hey i'm engaged man here yeah tell me that throw me that ball they're like low key like looking at it let's go have a catch yeah yeah exactly just getting smacked in the face with a ball every time because i'm not looking up oh you broke my nose yeah nope that's me i should have looked up i should have looked up yeah um yeah another place that going backwards we're uh staying with some friends who have a like old school it's like a Pac-Man video game but it has all the old
Starting point is 00:35:28 games. So it had 1943 and Space Invader and all those different games. And I felt weirdly okay about letting my 8-year-old just fuck with that for an hour at a time
Starting point is 00:35:44 because obviously he was even if he got addicted to it he's not taking it with us and also i just feel like they didn't they didn't have the brain chemicals like locked in enough to the point that you know the way they do now where they're like every sound every color has been perfectly engineered to release 45 percent more dopamine than your child they're like no you get 8-bit digital fun that's yeah we're not going up to 16 bits nope but at 8 and play with those pixels can get used to playing snake on his nokia uh yeah there you go yeah all right let's take one more quick break and we'll come back and talk about Trump's increasingly detailed plans to overthrow the election and other crazy shit. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,
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Starting point is 00:39:58 Which, among other things, one of the things that he did in that speech that kind of carried on a story that we've been paying attention to on this show is now three for five mega people. And these are people who are involved in the certification of the election. And it feels like increasingly, it seems pretty clear at this point that this is their ace in the hole. That they seem to think they have and keep like kind of obliquely referencing mass certification refusals yeah yeah basically every place that he every state that he doesn't win they are going to claim voter fraud and put it in the courts where you know they've had some victories as of late that people have been surprised by. Maybe it's time to stop being surprised by it.
Starting point is 00:41:09 But yeah, this Rolling Stone article said, Donald Trump boasted about MAGA supporters taking over Georgia's state election board, part of his team's efforts to corrupt future elections. I don't know if you've heard, but the Georgia state election board is in in a very positive way they're on fire they're doing a great job trump said at the rally and then he went on to actually name the three mega republicans that are dominating the five-person board which is i don't know and he was like they're pit bulls fighting for honesty transparency and victory oh i love it i love a pit bull who's on the right side of things. Good, good, good, good, good.
Starting point is 00:41:49 People who are described as pit bulls are always good and circumspect and have justice in mind, it seems like. Yeah. I think last week or the week before and another Rolling Stone report of just about the increasing nature of these like just fucking freaks. Like I said, who have been huffing election interference disinformation for years, who are essentially in these very, very sensitive positions that at the very least will delay the certification of the election um like a lot of people like legally they have no standing to be able to be like no because it's more of like a ceremony like you're like and i say it is now certified you're not there to be like no these are rendered useless which is what they're trying to do in these positions um right but yeah it is that again when you're someone like donald trump whose entire existence is on the line if you don't win i only i only expect some of the most underhanded shit to be
Starting point is 00:42:53 happening um like even you know him attacking other republicans like he was doing in georgia yeah so he's like he went after brian camp like brian Kemp is, by all political logic, somebody that he would want to be bringing closer as he's in Georgia, a state that he's worried about winning. Brian Kemp is the hugely popular governor of Georgia. And he just called him a bad guy, a disloyal guy, and a very average governor governor little brian and then also started talking like it's not it's so transparent what he's doing he also like was
Starting point is 00:43:32 talking shit about brad raffensperger who was the guy on the other end of the phone when trump demanded that they find 11 780 votes and who like wouldn't wouldn't do him that favor yeah yeah and now he knows he's like well the problem was those guys won't do me favors so now the people that i need the favor from have to be people that i know will do my favor and can't be independent and i wonder if you know like i mean i think yeah kemp is definitely uh popular with like republicans otherwise you know it's you're up you're down but i think i wonder though too if some of these republican governors they know that if they really are trying like i know obviously like in the race for power you don't like someone like donald trump
Starting point is 00:44:17 who takes up all the oxygen so and it hampers your ability to move upward that if they're like no man like i'm not gonna to fucking help you, dude. Like if if it's if it's meant for this thing to end for you, then that's what's going to happen. And that's actually a good thing for me and my own political goals. Right. But yeah, the 70 pro Trump freaks sprinkled throughout different counties in the nation does not make me feel good because yeah yeah it's it's it's it's in the uncertainty where a lot of these conspiracy theories end up taking hold and then you ramp ramp it up to something like another January 6 yeah I mean they or like something more successful than January
Starting point is 00:45:00 6 it seems like they're actually a little bit more well prepared this time and it's not just like we'll have guns outwardly that we carry. Yeah. It really isn't a question. He's trying to rig the election. He's trying. Basically, as we know, his playbook is always do the thing that he's accusing the other side of. So rig the election. All the complaints about vote counters being in the bag for biden and like throwing out ballots i'm sure that is what he is wanting done on his behalf and so it does like a story that we'll have to try and start covering see if there is a story there is like what the democratic party is doing it feels like it
Starting point is 00:45:45 would be a dereliction of duty if the democratic party wasn't like hair on fire trying to like just smash through some sort of election laws to ensure that the person with the most votes actually like won the state but no that does feel it's too late feel like the sort of thing that, I don't know, I'm used to seeing the Democrats kind of complaining about being unfair after the fact rather than doing the thing to head it off before it happens. They had time and then they're just like, let's move on to something else. But yeah, where, yeah. How much that turns around to bite the entire country in its ass, uh, is to be determined. Anyway, it's only August 5th. So take your time.
Starting point is 00:46:37 November. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, the, uh, democratic election lawyer named Mark Elias told Rolling Stone, I think we are going to see mass refusals to certify the election. Everything we are seeing about this election is that the other side is more organized, more ruthless and more prepared. And the thing they're more prepared to do is straight up subvert democracy in the country. No, it's making sure we win.
Starting point is 00:47:04 OK, that's how I i like they're committed to truth and victory and i'm a pitbull yes yes honesty transparency and victory all right the other person on the ticket besides kamala harris is rfk and Harris is RFK. And I wasn't fully aware of this mystery, but apparently, did you see this story over the weekend? I saw the video where he's telling Roseanne. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Did you watch that part? No. He was trying to get ahead of this story by posting a video of him explaining this to Roseanne, who equally, Roseanne even looks like, bro, what are you talking about? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:47:49 It sounds like a bad dream. Like the thing that he's describing. It's so weird. Um, so there was apparently, uh, a big mystery 10 years ago, uh,
Starting point is 00:48:02 where a, a bear cub was found dead in central park with a bike on top of it right and um the medical report was like it was hit by a car um however there are not bears in central park so like what is this like some weird occult ritual like what the what how lost shit like yeah what is happening so the context of rfk bringing this up is that there is a new yorker article coming out where they've been doing an investigation into this and he's like yeah okay so it was me and what of it they're like wait what what do you mean it was you crazy the mystery bear story ended up being like all right it was rfk who put the bear there jr fucking like yeah uh so
Starting point is 00:48:53 his explanation just doesn't make any sense like nobody is acting in a way that makes any sense unless you assume everyone involved is absolutely just shit-faced just exactly i think out of their gourd just hearing him talk about it he sounds like a kid who's getting in trouble and this is him trying to get ahead of a story yeah but his his arms are like crossed in front of him and he's like well you know i don't know if like somebody else just like just listen to this is the story of how the bear got to central park and that woman in a van in front of me hit a bear and killed it a young bear so i roseanne she's like a young bear okay over and i picked up the bear and put him in the back of my van because i was going to skin the bear and it was very good condition and i was going to
Starting point is 00:49:52 and put the meat in my refrigerator and he said so then and so obviously i had to pick up the bear because it was in great condition yeah and i'm going to skin the bear and i'm going to put the and i'm going to use the meat because I'm going to put the, and I'm going to use the meat. Put the baby bear meat in my refrigerator. Cause you know how, you know how tender that is. Is baby bear, Zyke gang. I mean,
Starting point is 00:50:11 is baby bear meat good eating? Yeah. Is bear meat. I mean, I know people eat bear meat, but how often are you really like, yo, let's eat some fucking bear meat anyway.
Starting point is 00:50:20 So he goes on, um, go on Robert. You can do that in New York state. You can get a bear tag, bear tag for a roadkill bear. And so then we went hawking, and I had the bear in my car. And then we had a really good day, and we went late. We were catching a lot of game, and the people really loved it.
Starting point is 00:50:41 So we stayed late. And instead of going back to my home in Westchester, I had to go right to the city because there was a dinner at Peter Luger's Steakhouse. This sounds like a deposition. You know what I mean? And then we were hawking. We were doing some hawk shit. So that hawking is unrelated to hawk to it.
Starting point is 00:51:01 It is. Yeah, I know. We looked deep into this. Smiles at our eyes. Three hours deep into this. yeah we're like three three hours deep into this uh no it's actually he he engages in falconry um yes yes and they were having such a good time with birds it was it was a great day of hawking yeah they stayed i mean i i think i can't continue to listen to him but you can look you get the vibe of what he's explaining
Starting point is 00:51:21 so they had to run to dinner at peter. Like, as one does after a long day. After a long day of hawking with a fucking decomposing bear in the fucking back of your car. So, Peter Luger's, Miles, you're never going to believe this. Dinner at Peter Luger's also went longer
Starting point is 00:51:39 than expected. At which point he had to catch a flight and he's like, no there's a bear decomposing and guys you're never gonna believe this there's a bear decomposing in the back of my car and i and i had it was it's in good condition because i'm gonna skin it and then i'm gonna eat it and i'll put the meat in the refrigerator yeah just so you know that's why it's there but then he's he's real like we've all been there dead bear in the back of the car you're in the middle of new york city not enough time to skin and eat uh said bear right fortunately he also has a broken bike in his car at the yeah how big is this it feels like must be he's driving a fucking like junk old astro van
Starting point is 00:52:30 like my grandpa used to have for like work shit yeah um so he and he's like i didn't drink at the time but the people i was with were drunk and we decided to make some sort of like fucked up live action political cartoon because cars keep hitting bikers in Central Park. So we are going to stage this to look like the bear got killed by a bike is what they thought they were doing. It was like my friends who, you know, there might've been some drinking. They thought it was a good idea. Oh, great. So your decision-making skills are let's seed the decision-making process to
Starting point is 00:53:13 the drunk fucks that I'm partying with. If you're not drunk, right? So you're not, so you're not drunk. You know, these motherfuckers are three sheets to the wind or whatever that phrase is. And you are now
Starting point is 00:53:25 saying well and they had a pretty good idea ditch the carcass and again like you said let's make it let's make a political statement about pedestrian or bicyclists versus cars like none of this fucking makes any sense uh also the person who originally wrote the article in the new york times that was like it has been discovered that the bear was hit by a car. Although it wasn't like nothing to see here, folks, necessarily. Like it was about the mystery and like how weird it was. But that person was JFK's granddaughter. His niece wrote the original article.
Starting point is 00:54:02 So, wow. I know that these are never, you you know caught up in conspiracies but this maybe maybe this is their first one yeah yeah i haven't seen any other ones but not a good one to start off on kennedy family not a good one to start off on i wasn't drinking of course and that's fine but you But you look more like a fucking person with terrible decision-making skills than you're like what the drunk guys thought. Let's just dump this fucking thing in Central Park.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Yeah. His campaign, the main things that have crossed over are that he has a worm that ate a big part of his brain that's responsible for decision making. And then just a bonkers story about how he tried to skin and eat a baby bear and couldn't find the time. And so dumped it in Central Park,
Starting point is 00:55:00 creating an international mystery. Or making off-color dog eating jokes. That's the other thing that came out. And also claiming that he did eat dog before. So, nailing it. And finally, back to the Olympics. At the end of last week, in the women's boxing event,
Starting point is 00:55:18 there was a transphobic panic over the Algerian boxer, Amman Khalif. and it was yeah it was it really like broke through to uh the wall street journal and people read the wall street journal but yeah it was really everywhere her crime was hitting her italian opponent too hard that the opponent gave up. And then in the interview was sort of casting his purse like, you know, like whatever their condition they're in, like, it's not for me to decide if it's right for them to compete. And people are like, what the fuck is going on? And again, this led to this just immediate, freaky, right wing outrage. immediate freaky right wing right wing outrage you know jk rowling was obviously like leading the charge and kept saying all kinds of horrific shit and like this led her uh khalif and also a
Starting point is 00:56:13 taiwanese boxer who was also they're like this person also failed a gender eligibility test um this was again this is the the the the controversy comes around a test that was administered by the IBA, which was like a boxing organization that was banished from Olympic boxing prior to the Tokyo Games. These two women had competed without incident to all of this. And guess what? They also took L's. They were getting beat by other cis women so it's not like something where they're like that you know the kinds of memes and her fucked up shit they were like trying to do is act like you know it's like this this man is just stepping into the ring and then like just outright assaulting women and under the guise of competitive boxing um but again a lot of people are casting
Starting point is 00:56:59 doubt over the legitimacy of the iba as they have like like a lot of weird ties to russia and khalif's gender eligibility was first questioned after she beat a russian boxer and the iba like when they asked like what is the test that you even administered what was the methodology you use because they're like there was a there we have detected x y chromosomes again medical experts a lot of the people who are like at the forefront of helping debunk this and other people who are like much more informed on this thing in the nuance of sex chromosomes or like yeah there's a there's a number of conditions where like a cis woman could have them and and and vice versa like with men having high like this is this is fucking stupid um so the iba like they were also like we're not going to tell you how we got this result or what the
Starting point is 00:57:46 test was so everyone was like what the fuck is this for it caused a lot of issues like the you know khalif's next opponent was like reposting like memes about how like she was about to fight like some fucking demon or some shit um the italian boxer apologized for even kicking this whole thing off, rightly. But the other thing that was also just kind of odd, too, was J.K. Rowling. When she was posting this stuff, people were looking at her profile picture, and they're like, it looks like you have black mold crawling up your walls. Yeah, it really does. Where are you?
Starting point is 00:58:26 your walls yeah like it really does where are you she didn't comment on it but it felt like the comments were enough that she definitely saw it and like immediately like her profile picture changed yeah so the moldy walls in question are not there and part of me is like yeah you would be some sloppy person who like doesn't address a black mold like you're some wealthy freak who's like yeah i have black mold everywhere and I fire off my hate tweets. Yeah, it's like Grey Gardens shit happening in the background. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, yeah. 100%.
Starting point is 00:58:48 But anyway, I think it's also, a lot of people were also pointing out that in Algeria, where Iman Khalifa is from, it's illegal to be openly trans or to, like, transition. So, like, this outrage could actually, like, have serious, like, implications for her in Algeria, although it doesn't seem like that's the case. But, again. Again, she's not trans, but just trans but just you're saying like the rumors that are being started swirl around and just make this into a fucking nothing burger buffet uh it's just like yeah and this is and this was again this was what many people like activists around the beginning of like this like weird gender policing they're like it's going to boomerang around for actual cis women like it's that like you start questioning shit like that it's honestly it makes me feel like eventually they're gonna be like well black people need to be in their own sprinting category right because like yeah you have their swimmers with like webbed
Starting point is 00:59:40 feet are there other just variations in the human body that you look at and it just feels like this is just a very slippery slope to then be like well these are the pure humans and these are the mutants and blah blah blah blah yeah it's just dangerous shit they want to make it a story where it's um this new woke mind virus is like making it seem normal but this is not normal like there have been controversies like this all throughout the history of the olympics like yeah many years in into the past and it just wasn't immediately weaponized by a fucking you know right-wing people on the internet and fucking jk rowling for whatever whatever weird problem she has yeah but yeah black mold because that do do we know like what does black mold cause people like does it cause like weird paranoia i
Starting point is 01:00:34 thought it would but no i was looking it up it's mostly like respiratory issues like is the worst thing about black mold um but again i think it maybe it's more indicative of where someone's at to like look at like black like black mold creeping up your walls and you're like oh my walls are doing something fun my walls are doing the same thing the inside of my soul is always doing yeah interesting taking over the black oh you can see that too i thought that was just because everything i see i thought it was for me but anyway yeah goes full golem on the world anyways yeah it seems like this is going to continue to be made into a story but like the actual story for all intents and purposes is you know the ioc has made their decision. It's the same decision as every organizing body except the IBA.
Starting point is 01:01:28 And the IBA was doing it under weird circumstances with undisclosed medical tests. They're like, we're not going to tell. Honestly, we're not going to tell why we're disqualifying them. We just are. And that's it. Okay. So like an arbitrary arbitrary like opaque decision making process that you won't share yeah yeah yeah yeah and again like even the ioc like you're
Starting point is 01:01:53 saying it's like these people like these women have been competing like there's no issue there's literally no issue here like except for yeah you get the one of the most famous transphobes on twitter and have someone and also have it happen on a place like twitter where right now misinformation is running rampant like where you can even see how it's you know like in the in the aftermath of the mass stabbing that happened in england how some weird ass russian misinformation news site got shared around and now you have people that are like attacking places that are housing asylum seekers under the guise of like that this this muslim person attacked uh these kids and that wasn't even the case and yeah yeah and elon musk is already like sharing a bunch of weird shit too
Starting point is 01:02:37 like of his own like weird deep fake nonsense so yeah there's just, we're starting to see just in every way how delicate all these situations are, especially with people's information diets, that it can either turn into just a completely unjustified outrage mob or manifesting in real life, in physical space, like with violence, like we're seeing in other places. So, yeah, Twitter. Stay safe out there. Yeah. Please stay safe. And tell your misinformed friends and family who may be being like, what did you think about the boxer? Right.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Yeah, exactly. Tell them about this, because I feel like this has become a lot of people are being very uncritical and hearing this story and then immediately being like man that's crazy that there's like they're letting a man compete in the boxing category that is not what has happened yeah all right those are some of the things that were trending over the weekend and on this monday morning we are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves get your Be kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines. Get your flu shots. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. No. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye.
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