The Daily Zeitgeist - Rice On Trump, Jordan The Drunk GOAT 11.13.19

Episode Date: November 13, 2019

In episode 515, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Mike Feeney to discuss some impeachment updates, GOP representative Peter King retiring, Uber CEO calling the murder of Khashoggi a mistake, a senior Trump official / scammer, a wild Michael Jordan story, the Sonic the Hedgehog redesign, being genetically wired to avoid certain vegetables, and more!FOOTNOTES: Former U.S. top diplomat Rice concerned by shadow diplomacy on Ukraine Longtime GOP Rep. Peter King announces retirement Rep. Peter King: There are "too many mosques in this country” Uber CEO backtracks after calling Saudi murder of Khashoggi "a mistake" Senior Trump official embellished résumé, had face on fake Time cover Jeremy Roenick tells an absolutely epic Michael Jordan golf gambling story WATCH: When Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley Roasted Each Other on Oprah. Sonic the Hedgehog returns with bigger eyes and fewer teeth in new trailer Some people 'genetically wired' to avoid some vegetables WATCH: Pink Siifu - Pray Everyday Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 108, episode three of Your Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck Koch Industries,

as in the Koch Brothers and fuck Fox News. It's Wednesday, November 13th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien,

a.k.a. Shot through the heart and you're dying, darling, you give love, O'Brien yeah courtesy of Hannah Soltis and I'm thrilled to be

joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray starting lineup for the Los Angeles Bakers LeBong James Anthony Vapedist Danny Greenkush Can't Bake Like This Caldwell Dope, and JaVale Smoketrees.

Can't Bake Like This Caldwell Dope. For Contavious. Contavious. Can't Bake Like This. That is a stretch. They also did one for the Clippers, but there's only one team in this city, so we will. Oh, you're not even going to use the Clippers one? I mean, I'll read it.

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These are from Matt Dick At Matt Dick though Well done Matt Dick And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat By the hilarious comedian Mike Feeney Hey, how's it going? Welcome.

Welcome to L.A. Yeah, this is a great, it's a good city so far. I only come here for a week at a time. You just touched down. There was a montage with the Hollywood sign, women in bikinis, rollerblading on the Venice boardwalk, and then you showed up here. Yeah. I mean, I literally, my first hour yesterday i decided someone told me to go get

lunch somewhere because i had time to kill before i could check in i was like why don't i go why don't i go somebody goes to check out that fountain coffee room place in that beverly hills hotel okay thing it's like some downstairs you know whatever so i walk in there and sit down i'm like oh this is pretty you know 25 for a sandwich i'm like all right, this is a pretty, you know, $25 for a sandwich. I'm like, alright, I'm officially in Los Angeles. And then it became even more LA because like two seconds later Justin Bieber and his wife walk in and sit right next to me

the entire meal. Really? And I'm just like, yeah. And like nobody bothers them, nobody talks to them and I'm just like, this is the most LA I've ever felt. I'm sure. Did they pray over whatever they ordered before consuming it? Dude, I mean, I gotta be honest. I, they,

there wasn't a lot of talking between them. You know? I don't know what was going on. On their phones? Yeah, a lot on their phones and just, there was some,

there was some tension there. But they, I mean, I gotta tell you, Haley is, I mean, just breathtaking. I didn't, I didn't immediately recognize who she was,

but when she walked in, you know when you just see somebody and you go, I don't know who that is, but I know they're wildly famous. You know what I mean? Like you're just immediately, and then he walked in, and then I was like,

oh, that's of course, yeah, yeah. But you know, they seemed pretty nice, I guess. Like a skateboarder on Skid Row and a model together. Cool. Is that just a new vibe? I wonder, younger Like, is that, I wonder, younger listeners,

is it normal just to be on your phones all the time? Is that like the new younger people shit? I feel bad when I'm on the phone too much, like around somebody, but it feels normal.

That's where I get weirded out, where it's like, well, you're doing your thing on your phone. I'm doing my thing, but it's like, this used to not be. Well, you know what it is too,

which is like, this is why I feel like kids are more socially awkward now is because they don't whenever they're in like a party and then there's an awkward moment of silence and they don't know what to do they bust the phone it's like they're a haven instead of having to overcome that weirdness by either making conversation or talking to somebody yes it is which is so bizarre to me but it's like you know i'm sure it's it's great to have for sure but i think it's stunting uh you know social growth i forgot my phone actually precisely in this kind

of situation on going to a party where i didn't really know many people and i at first was like oh fuck right i'm gonna have to pantomime having a phone yeah because i'm not talking to nobody and then i just like was able to just kind of sit there when you actually don't have it. Right. I didn't even think about it. I was like, you know what?

What's up, man? Sit in that discomfort. Yeah. Yeah. Ask the uncomfortable question of, hi, what's your name?

Hi, who are you doing? Yeah. I live in somebody takes the phone out and they hold it, but they don't like, as you're talking to them, they kind of like have it ready to go. You know,

like whatever, whenever this takes a turn, I'm going in. I'm joined, yeah. I will face ID the fuck out this thing. Stay interesting. So close. Yeah. You are one boring story.

What part of Long Island are you from? I'm from out in Suffolk County, way out in center. Oh, where Bagel Boss is from. Yeah, exactly. Actually, it's- Do you claim him? Yeah, you claim him.

I mean, honestly, when I saw that video and everybody that I I mean, honestly, when I saw that video and everybody that I know from Long Island, when we saw that video, we were like, this is just the first time someone's pressed record. This is such a normal occurrence.

Like, not just that guy, but I mean, like, that's just people fighting in bagel stores about being short. The boss of me. An Italian... Like, it's just such, and it didn't, I was like, oh, yeah. And then the fact that it went so viral.

What, I'm curious for a Suffolk County native, in his videos where he's like, I'm trying to fuck, all right? I'm going on this boat. Email my manager, only women from Suffolk County. This is post-fame bagel boss. Post-fame bagel boss when he's just trying to fuck on IG Live

and saying it had to be from Suffolk County. This is post-Fan Bagel Boss. Post-Fan Bagel Boss when he's just trying to fuck on IG Live and saying it had to be from Suffolk County. Is he thinking of a specific kind of woman when he says that? 100%. Or is it that it's just local? No, no, no. So what is he visiting with? It's a specific type of woman. Suffolk County women, Long Island women in general for the most part,

are like Italian brunettes, blondes only with the highlights. You know what I mean? I didn't know that, I always grew up and I was like, man, I really am attracted to blonde women with dark eyebrows. And then I was like, oh, I eventually realized like,

oh, that's just a brunette woman with blonde hair. That's how that works. But no, Suffolk County would mean usually overly tan brunette, maybe with some like, you know, blonde highlights. And because Nassau County is known more for money. So also Suffolk County is a little more trashy. So there's a little more like middle class, lower middle class, you know.

Where's Teresa Capito from? Long Island medium. That I'm not sure. Okay. Because I feel like that's what I'm envisioning. But yeah. That's like a level five Suffolk County. A comedian friend of mine,

a New York City comedian, he's very funny, Brennan Sagalow, has a joke where it's very, I think it sums it up very well, where it's like Long Island women like to do a thing where they'd be like, let me suck your balls.

You know what I mean? Like B-A-W-Z. You know? Wow. Shout out to the Long Island Medium, who we all are imagining sucking someone's balls now. My mom is all into those things, too. All of the Long Island Medium, John Edwards.

Yeah, crossing over. If you can tell her that, you know, a past pet is okay, she'll give you money. Yeah. You know? Loved lucky. Loved lucky. All right, Mike, we're going to get to know you

a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about we're gonna talk about singles day 11-11 which is a thing I did not know about but it's the biggest shopping day in the world we're gonna do a quick check in with a couple little

details of the impeachment story girl I'm talking about impeaching this creep cause that is going live tomorrow. Today. Today. Today. It's been going on, but we don't know. Yeah, that's right.

We don't know. But you will probably get an update later today. Yeah, possibly. Oh, yeah, we're going to do an update later today, guys. Check it out. We did one yesterday. Two downloads. We're going to talk about, we're going to pour one out for Pete King.

We're going to check in with the CEO of Uber, look at a scammer who's not even trying that hard to scam. Just like has her face on the front of a fake Time Magazine level scammer. Strolling her way into the State Department. In the State Department. level scammer. Strolling her way into the State Department. In the State Department. And then we're going to get into some fun stuff about Michael Jordan, Sonic the Hedgehog,

and the fact that we're genetically predisposed to hate certain vegetables. It's true. Yes. Every parent, mute this section if your child is in the room, because they will have scientific evidence why they don't fuck with vegetables. Yeah. I feel like that's a lot of stuff that kids were saying, we're going will have scientific evidence why they don't fuck with yeah yeah i feel like that's a lot a lot of stuff that like kids were saying we're gonna have scientific proof that they were not yeah all the time yeah yeah uh but first mike we like to ask our guests what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are i'm just thinking of something

that you're like you know what birthday cake for breakfast is actually very healthy for a small child yo i mean we're gonna find out about about Michael Jordan, like we don't know shit about what's good for certain people. Yeah, no, not at all. Certain people can do whatever the fuck they want. Famed, well now disgraced, famous comedian Bill Cosby used to have a thing about how he was saying the cake was, it's got everything. It's got eggs, it's got milk, it's got flour.

It's all good for you. Oh, no. But then he raped a bunch of people. Anyway, my Google search history. Here's the thing that you guys should know about me. I procrastinate a lot. So one thing that I did, which is embarrassing to admit, So one thing that I did, which is embarrassing to admit, is that I literally spent 35 minutes looking at dogs that I could adopt.

I went through, filtered it, was really getting into it just to procrastinate having to scoop the cat litter in my apartment from having two cats. So I was like, would getting a dog be easier than scooping cat litter? Right, right. Just look into that. I couldn't even, which is like, cat are the most low-maintenance animals of all time. And I was like, what if I got a- Dogs clean up after themselves, right? What if I got a newborn puppy? That's probably less, you know?

But I also, I Google things like wildly specific questions that I have, and I've never not had a result yet. You know what I mean? Like a no result thing. Like, you know, it'll be like, hey, I just spilt a grapefruit seltzer

on my PlayStation and now it's in the left controller. How do I get it out? And there's 3,000 results. That's what's a great thing. Was this post helpful? Yeah. Yeah.

Very much. It's just one of my favorite things in movies is when somebody Google something and it says zero results. And it's like, that has not happened in the last 20 years. Well, I'm sure you could think of a combination of words

that would probably like... They'll like Google someone's name and there'll be like zero results. Oh, right, right, right, right, right. Huh. Are you a perfectionist? Maybe I'll refine this. Mike?

Yeah, I suppose so. In terms of my own like comedy and stuff. In general, like if I said, if I asked you if you would describe yourself as a perfectionist, would that resonate with you at all? Only in terms of my work, you know what I mean? If I'm putting out videos or doing stuff, I'm very hard on that. But otherwise, I mean... Sometimes procrastination is a trait in people who are perfectionists.

Oh, okay. I get like that too. For sure. Sometimes procrastination is a trait in people who are perfectionists. Oh, okay. Yeah. I get like that too. For sure. I will literally, like you, be like, what's the other option to actually doing this thing that will solve my problems? Yeah. I don't know.

It resonated with me. What is something you think is underrated? Okay. Well, first off, I'll give you a local one and then a universal one. Just from being in Los Angeles for 24 hours, I'm going to say walking is underrated here because I walked yesterday from Beverly Hills to West Hollywood. And when I told people that,

they acted like I was Forrest Gump that just got done with the crosscut. Like someone threw a foil blanket over me. I was like, what? Did you use an IV? Yeah, I was like, it's two miles. They're like, two miles? What are you crazy?

Like, was Uber down? You're like, what? No, it's 73 degrees. It's the perfect walking weather. So that's what I would say is underrated here. But universally, I got to say, I just made this connection recently. I have a thing where every time i hear a helicopter

i have to like find it in the sky you know what i'm saying like i know what it is but i need to find it threat identification yeah and and not even because i think it's going to be a threat i'm just like that's a helicopter right and i gotta see it yeah and the feeling the feeling of finding it for some reason is such a great feeling where you're like it's not a cat I love that you know what I mean like whatever it is

we all have to find it right you've got to find it in the sky kind of congratulate yourself I know exactly that feeling the one I really the small victory I sense

is when you know like it's a big sound so you don't quite know the direction it's coming from when you almost go it sounds like here but I know it's here and you look and you're like exactly that's the direction it's coming from. When you almost go, it sounds like here, but I know it's here.

And you look and you're like, exactly. That's right. Yeah. It's the best feeling. Growing up living underneath a flight path of an airport, you hone those aircraft sound skills. But that's one thing I really, it's funny. I was in an Uber recently and the fucking, I heard a fucking like heavy military helicopter. And I was like, oh shit, what is that?

Like a Chinook or something? Yeah. And I look up and I fucked up. I looked the wrong way. And then it was the other one. And in my mind I said, you knew it was the other side. You fool. And you fucking broke your neck trying to look out the back.

There's something forever. Like it's like not being able to scratch an itch if you don't find it, you know? Right. And then it's out of your sight line. You're like, God damn. Oh, for sure. It hurts. There's one thing I know.

It's the sound of a helicopter in the sky. Yeah. It's like, that's a Huey. The real man's man. These are things that become relevant, again, when you have like a three-year-old. Three-year-olds fucking love helicopters. It's like such a treat when a helicopter flies over.

Oh, yeah. Well, any large mechanical object. Yeah, man. Fucking a bulldozer. Anything flying through the sky. You ever take them to the fire department when they're just out there for free? Just a construction site is like,

we'll stop, we'll pull over, and just look at a construction site for 20 minutes. He knows all the different trucks, crane truck, telescoping crane, bulldozer, different types of excavators. Wow. I didn't even know those things. He's like teaching you.

Yeah. I didn't know that shit. What is something you think is overrated? Man, I mean, it's mostly technology-based stuff, but I hate read receipts. I thought I loved them, but I hate them. You know when you can have those on the iPhone? When it says up, red. When it says red,. I thought I loved them, but I hate them. You know when you can have those on the iPhone? When it says up, read.

When it says read, because I thought, I was like, oh, good, because if I text somebody, sometimes they don't write back, and you get mad, and you go, what the hell? And then you go, oh, they didn't read it yet, so it's okay. But you can get away from that, you know what I mean? You can check it on your computer and not check it on your phone, and then it may not show up as read, or you can see that it's there, but then they still go on social media

so you're like, now you're actively ignoring it which drives me fucking crazy. Right. And also the insecurity of like, is there anything worse than when you reach out to somebody and this isn't,

this also goes for like Instagram or Facebook and you get that scene and then they don't write back and it's just like triggers every insecurity in your body where you just want to be like, well, you know what? Fuck you. It's like, I was inviting you to a wedding and body where you just want to be like, well, you know what? Fuck you.

I was inviting you to a wedding and now it's like... Like I'm laughing at you two assholes. Yeah, exactly. And they're like, sorry, I was in a meeting. And you're like, oh, never mind. You really, for a person who I overthink things, it really makes me go from a one to a 10.

Now, if something shows up as a push notification and you read it, but you don't open it back up, does that give... No. It can't tell, right? You have to usually read it within the message app, right? Yeah, you have to open and go into it. So they could see it, swipe it off their thing, and then not open it, and then just leave it there to die. Yeah.

I did that thing where I got into a fight with somebody last week, and I was advised, it was like, they're the smart thing, you should probably just apologize. So I swallowed my pride, sent this big long apology, started with being like, I'm sorry, man. Sent this whole thing, read receipts on, still hasn't read it as of this morning. And this was last week and it's

making me blood red mad. I'm just, I'm leaving it alone but it's like killing me because every couple, you know, once a day I'll like go back and look and it still just says delivered and not read and it's like, I see. It's like, you know, you post something, you go on their Instagram and you see them like on their laptop with iMessage

open in a separate window and you're like, so you saw it. So you saw it. Screencaps of other text threads. Yeah, you're like, I didn't even want to apologize. You know what I mean? Like you get so mad. Ugh, infuriating but yeah all that stuff like the people like

I just got this new iPhone and they tried to upsell me on the Apple watch that was like their big where they're like get the watch get the watch and I was like

I don't I'm like I'm spending essentially like $1,100 on this phone I want to use it and they're like yeah but then if you

don't have your phone then you can use your watch I was like if I don't have your phone and you can use your watch, I was like, if I don't have my phone, the day is over. All right. The world, nothing is getting done

until the phone has been reclaimed. All right. So I'm not going to just go on with my day. Yeah, exactly. You can talk into this too. So I don't know.

Yeah. I mean, that's cool. If you're not doing that well, that's fine. You can just say that. Yeah. What kind of sales tactic is this?

I get if you're like an active, like if you want to use it for like the heart monitor stuff or whatever, but I'm like, if the difference is keeping it in my pocket or using it, it's like, well, I just paid for this. I want to look at it, you know, instead of just, you know, whatever. But yeah.

I'm not healthy enough for an Apple Watch. They can also solve your murder, apparently. Oh yeah, that's a thing. What? Yes. Avenge me, Miles. Yeah, right. If my Apple Watch ever catches somebody murdering me. Oh, yeah. That's a thing. What? Yes. Avenge me, Miles. Yeah, right. If my Apple Watch ever catches somebody murdering me. Oh, yeah, you have one.

Yeah, I got one. You want to see a terrible tan line? Oh, my God. You can see your veins. That is- Like the blue of your blood. That also looks just so tight. Very tight.

Yeah, I know. It's a little too tight. Yeah, your fingertips are black. A little too tight. Yeah, your fingertips are black. A little too tight, I would say. Mike, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Okay, well, I mean, the obvious one here is obviously, you know, Kurt Cobain was murdered.

But if we're, you know, before we, instead of going down that rabbit hole, I will say Jeffrey Epstein was murdered. Yeah, of course. I mean, but in regards to vegan stuff, where a lot of people are like, vegan shit is better for you, I don't think that's true. I think it depends on what you have,

but this Impossible Burger and all that stuff that's out right now, it's so much processed stuff in order to make it look, feel, squeeze, taste like actual meat and then like i go into uh there's ice cream i don't know if they have them in l.a but there's this ice cream place in new york the van lewins it's like this like high-end like hipstery ice cream place and they do uh they do vegan ice cream and then they do regular ice cream so i go in there and i'm like you know i'm i'm watching my figure maybe i'll get like some vegan ice cream that's probably healthier and i say I say to the guy, I was like, this ice cream is healthier, right? And he was like, no, this is significantly worse for you because he's like the amount

of coconut milk and all the stuff we have to put in to make it taste like ice cream. He's like, there's way more calories and way more sugar in this than actual ice cream. I think that's been this sort of debate, especially around the meat, plant-based meat options. It's sort of like, what's the trade-off in terms of what we're doing to synthesize all this stuff to get it to this level versus the benefits? I mean, I get the – I think the carbon argument is probably the most potent in terms of like a vegan diet. Sure. Like the environmental impact.

But yeah, I think at a certain level, unless you're just – if you're not banging just straight vegetables, then you're going to get in the process zone. But hey, look, teach their own. Yeah. And again, if you're doing it for like animal rights reasons, stuff like that, that's, you know, all power, more power to you. But it's just, when people try to be like, well, it's a healthier lifestyle. It's like, well, I don't, I've never seen. Well, there's levels to it.

Cause I, you know, I have friends who eat vegan and eat the like all junk vegan food. Right. Like, and they're, They're not really in it for that. They're like, well, I just don't eat meat. I've never seen an incredibly in shape vegan person. Oh, I have. Really? This is LA, baby. Oh, that's true. Fucking everywhere.

But I feel like there are always people who get really in really good shape and then go vegan right after that. You know what I mean? Or within the first... Keto is pretty big now. This city is just rife with people on every kind of diet imaginable so i've seen it all yeah yeah there's some professional athletes who have like gone vegan i think yeah a lot of mma people are vegan yeah not a lot but that's like a big thing that's happening even in mma yeah that's i don't know that's's what Joe Rogan was telling me. Yeah.

We're friends with Joe. Yeah, we were taking it after a sec. Yeah, I listen. Podcaster's only club. Yeah, we talk like once a week. I mean, he does most of the talking. I listen about two. Three, four hours. All right, Mike, before we get to the news stories,

hey, Miles, it's me, Jack. Yes, hi. Your friend from work. Friend from right now. I want to talk to Miles here about HelloFresh, a product that he and I have both had the pleasure of sampling over the past couple months.

Let's say our favorite recipe on three. One, two, three. Pork tenderloin. Are you serious? Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. That was so good. I really actually... That was probably the best thing I've ever made myself. Me too. I, well, actually, yes, it is. It's probably, yeah, you know, I'm a pretty good chef. No, yeah. But this was really easy to do. I, what I really like about HelloFresh was like, it's just the perfect

amounts. You can't really mess it up and it's also flexible. So if you have like your, you get your weekly orders, you can add extra meals. Maybe it's not hitting enough and you have a little more space in the tank. So you can add stuff on like garlic bread or cookie dough. So you have a little dessert or a little more starch. And you can even change your delivery days because I especially, you know, sometimes you have time to make it. Sometimes you don't and you don't want to have a bunch of food piling up in your refrigerator. So they're a little more flexible. I know.

It's less waste, you guys. It's good for the environment. It's good for you. It's good for your family, if you have a family. And it's a lot of fun to do. I'm going to rub that in my face. You don't have to go to the grocery store, which I love because I do the grocery shopping. And it's all very easy, step-by-step.

Even I could follow it. Yeah, pre-measured ingredients. Pre-measured. You just know, Jack, cut up these two garlic cloves. Dump in bowl. Great. It's a great product. And right now, you can get nine free meals with HelloFresh by going to hellofresh.com

slash TDZ and using code TDZ9. That's nine free meals with HelloFresh by going to HelloFresh.com slash TDZ9 and using code TDZ9. Boom. Nine free meals. Get it in. All right. Now let's talk about Alibaba, which is-

It's 40 Thieves. The Chinese Amazon, basically. Would that be an accurate way to- Yeah. E-commerce behemoth force. Right. would that be yeah e-commerce behemoth force right so uh they have a sales day called singles day 11 11 uh is is it for is it basically like a reverse valentine's day essentially it started in like at a chinese university in 1993 this idea that 11 11 was singles day because it was

four ones the loneliest number. And yeah, it just became a thing to either be like, yo, we're celebrating that we're single, but has evolved into also a day to celebrate your relationship. They say in China, 4,000 couples married in Beijing on this day in 2011 compared to the average of 700 a day. So, you know, some people like that as a day, but I didn't know that essentially over time it basically become Black Friday on steroids. Right. It's Black Friday for the entire Chinese economy and it's why, like it puts Black Friday to shame. Two days ago they sold, well, I guess last year for Singles Day, they sold $38 billion.

No, this year they did. So this year on Singles Day, they sold $38 billion in merchandise. And for perspective, Black Friday in 2018 in the U.S. did $6.2 billion. Wow. So, yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, when you have the hugest website, biggest website promoting it, and apparently live streaming was another huge angle to promoting all these sales. Live streams have become more and more part of promoting any kind of commerce or consumption.

Yeah, it just made it the – I think it was up 26% from last year. Damn. God. So, yeah. And it wasn't just like – it was all kinds of products. A lot of people were like, well, was it just all Chinese products? I was like, no from last year. Damn. God. So, yeah. And it wasn't just like, it was all kinds of products. A lot of people were like, well, was it just all Chinese products? Like, no, American products. Everything that's basically on there was up for grabs at deep discounts.

It's so wild that they can just keep creating holidays to be like, you know, like Valentine's Day and, you know, Singles Day. All these like contrived, like, you know, consumer based holidays and then people just eat them up and eat them up. If there's a sale, I mean, it could be like,

it's fucking the third Thursday and March day. Yeah. And you're like, fuck, I can't wait for that sale. And that's the thing too, that's like,

people don't get it. It's like, if you, even the people that tweet about it or whatever, that are like, this is so dumb, but then they're still talking about it.

Like you're just making it, you're just spreading it. You're just spreading it. You're spreading the virus. It's viral content. I mean, $38 billion, though. It's incredible to just think about that Black Friday just in the U.S. is so big, but obviously that's the difference in population size. But yeah, you do $38 billion in a day.

Unreal. And a lot of other companies were getting in on it too. Like I didn't realize, at first I was like, wait, why are, what the fuck was Singles Day?

It really caught me off guard because I saw other websites being like, hey, get your Singles Day sales here. Had no idea, but it makes sense, man. You were on your VPN.

On my VPN cruising, you know, trying to look at highlights from Europe and things like that. I've been like, someone told me I should get a VPN.

You have to pay monthly for that? Or yearly. That's one of the better ways to protect your data. That's one of those things. There's people that have those apps that are like, I store all my passwords in this one

super encrypted place. You're like, is it? Like, how do you, you know what I mean? Like, you just kind of take their, like, if somebody, there's no way that at some point technology won't advance to be able to hack into those one password thing. And then they just have all your passwords to everything. And with VPN, I guess it's like, but is there no way?

It's more of a shield to put up between you and like an internet service provider and anyone trying to understand what's actually happening with the data that's being transmitted on your computer. But if somebody wanted to get in there, like government or something like that, they could still. Well, the Chinese government, because a lot of people in China use VPNs to get around the great firewall. But the government there is even getting a little bit savvier on how to track VPNs and things like that. But I feel like the Chinese government, they know what's going on with the VPNs, but they allow that for American business tourists.

Not tourists, but American businessmen who are coming in who need to be able to send emails or go on. Well, you can still send your emails and things like that, but there are certain websites you just can't get in China. So that's when people use VPNs because they want to look at, you know, the Western version of like YouTube or whatever. Right. They can't tell where you're coming from. Yeah.

All right. Something everybody's thinking and talking about today. Let's check in with the impeachment story. We're here locked in this bunker. So we don't know what's happening on TV right now, but just some stories leading up to the televised testimony. So Condoleezza Rice, you remember her? Oh yeah. Yeah. Former Secretary of State. Yes, yes. She's saying it's murky, but basically implying that it's impeachable. Oh, the call is murky. Yeah, the call. It's like she said, what I see right now troubles me. I see a state of conflict between the foreign policy professionals and someone who says he's acting on behalf of the president.

But frankly, I don't know if that's the case. It's troubling. It is deeply troubling. You can come harder than that. Right. Still, it's like she's a prominent Republican who was supposedly being thrown around. Is it possible? Wasn't she going to jump in if he got impeached?

They talk about that. But troubling is the most cowardly criticism from the right of the president you always hear. That's Susan Collins' go-to. It's troubling. It's troubling. Okay, is it bad? Are you pushing back against this? Do you oppose this?

Yeah. But there's this gap that's opening up between the people who, like, for instance, Jesse Waters, who's the dude who went to Chinatown and made a bunch of racist jokes. Yeah, yeah. In like 2018. and so he is really confused why drudge the drudge report is printing news about the impeachment like he's like why is he publishing all these headlines that are unfavorable to the president so it's like you're seeing it's the same thing with like condoleezza rice and like matt drudge it's these right-wing people who are still like well but i'm still in reality right somewhat yeah i'm still i still like have to look at what is actually happening in front of me yeah or fox is putting it like front page on their website like yelling at your dog could scare it yeah he legitimately said uh i know he's a true patriot like i don't know if something changed in his heart or in his mind.

I know he's a true patriot. I love how people call each other patriots. You know what I mean? It's so weird. I always go right to the Mel Gibson movie, whatever I think of him running. Oh, yeah. He stabs a guy with the American flag.

Oh, shit. Oh, it was with the flag? Yeah, he's stabbing a red coat with the American flag. That's peak patriotism. And we've all been trying to reach that level ever since. Yeah, well, it's interesting. I mean, yeah, that's what we were really having to see. The cognitive dissonance really start to boil up more and more.

Because now we're dealing with, you're going to hear, you're going to see people on TV say this shit out loud. Right. And then what? Then how are you going to smear everybody? Because that's what they're going to do. They're going to be like, well, Bill Taylor's a plant. The Gordon Sondland who actually paid the Trump campaign like a million dollars in donations to become the ambassador is somehow some kind of deep state operative.

But, you know, it'd be nice to see him squirm. I feel like a lot of what they're doing is they're just, it's like kicking the can down the road where it's like, you know, there's so many checks and balances that like to go through all this process just is like, well, if we could just postpone and push. And then, you know, it takes so long for anything to get done that it's just like by the time it happens, the next election is already going to be here. Yeah, that's clearly the tactic with a lot of these people trying to sue to get out of testifying because then it's like, well, if we can just delay as long as possible, we'll lose momentum. But, you know, increasingly, I think they find themselves kicking the can down, like, not a road, but like those walls you see in a movie lot that's painted like a horizon going down the street.

And the can is starting to actually go off the wall. Like, hold on, I'm trying to kick this thing down the road. And they're slowly approaching that moment. We're like, okay, this is what it is. Now what? Yeah, because there was a Republican who basically said, you know, it's bad, but it's not impeachable. And Trump was like all over that dude. It was like, yo, you can't say it's bad. It was perfect.

Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. It was perfect. All right. Let's talk. It was perfect. Yeah. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. It was perfect. All right. Let's talk about Representative Pete King. Yeah. Who... Long Island.

Yeah. Long Island. Proud of his Irish heritage is what Schumer said about him. Chuck Schumer gave a very glowing... Look, I just know him as Mr. Too Many Mosques. Yeah. There's too many mosques. Yeah. He's an I just know him as Mr. Too Many Mosques. Yeah. There's too many mosques. Yeah, he's an Islamophobe.

Yeah. And he, I mean, really the news about this, I think just shows you how truly terrible it is to be a Republican in Congress right now. Because so many people are jumping ship or retiring. I mean, he's a 14-term congressman. Yeah, that's a lot of terms. Yeah, and to fully just be like, I'm going to retire. Just shows you this will happen in the midterms too. I think it just shows you, A, they're fully resigned to the fact that they're not going to win the House back.

So they're like, fuck it, dude. I'm not even trying to fight this. Like, I'm just, it's easier to retire because I don't want to have to, you know, essentially anyone who's up for reelection and is a Republican is going to have to answer for the policies of the president at some point and many people just don't want to do that anymore right it's people who are have their feet planted on earth and are like this is going to be tough to keep talking about reality in public but they also don't want to acknowledge that basically and also with social media too it's like all these it's like you know you can go people are really starting to dig into everybody you know what I mean where it's like 14 terms ago people didn't like go back and look at all the shit that you've said and done

that you might you know what I mean it's like at any time somebody retires from something I'm like what did they do what do they have what do they got back there yeah yeah there's no reason that you would leave unless something is uh yeah he just you could tell he was just losing steam defending the president like in the beginning he was all in it's probably and then slowly just it just like was wearing like and you know that's what happens because i think at some level you see that some of these people have like half a soul and they realize like this is it feels fucked up like i'll do it because I'm such a partisan, but also on the other level, it's just like, I'm, I'm not built for this anymore.

Like I don't have, I don't have quite it in quite, I don't have it in me to quite totally to bury my head in the sand and just keep moving. And everybody who has had long-term dealings with Trump say that's like essentially how he treats everybody. It's a parasitic relationship. At first you're going to be good good with it and then it's just gonna wear you down you're gonna have to get out there uh you know you hate to see it schumer that that just bummed me out man i mean i think i think it was illustrative of the difference

between like old style democrats and hopefully this young kind of lifeblood that's coming up with the newer class. But Schumer issued a statement where he was just like talking about how much he loved the student, how they like were able to put their differences aside and work together, and that he was like proud of his Irish heritage, which for somebody who veers that close to white supremacy is like a real weird like dog whistly like yeah well i mean he i mean he wasn't really even dog whistling with a lot of his racism anyway but right no i'm saying schumer like talking about him having pride in his well i think because p king what like he would he was wearing like notre dame irish shit even when he was talking to the

press to like be like i'm retired like he's that retired. I think of him as the Irish congressperson from New York. It is weird, too, because we are in a culture now just where it's like, if you're a white guy and you say proud, it just is immediately like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Right. Yeah, very careful now. Right, right, right.

You can't really. Of the diversity in my city. Yes, exactly. Oh, wow. Fantastic, fantastic, fantastic. You really got to be careful. Yeah, but also Chuck Schumer is just that old class where at a certain level,

they sort of see all the other Congress people, regardless of party, sort of like we're in the game together. And then when I have to put my partisan hat on, I'll do it. But then at the end of the day, we're just kind of, we're all cronies. Yeah, I feel like all of,

I feel like politics in general, it's like that iceberg analogy kind of thing where it's like we see just that tip of what's going on, but there's so much beneath the surface. There's so much backdoor dealings and all this stuff where it'd be like watching a football game and then you see the kickoff, and then all of a sudden it's in the second half.

And you're like, wait, what was that? And they're like, oh, well, don't worry about it. We did some stuff. And you're like, but the score, you know? It's like in the second half and you're like wait what was it and they're like oh well don't worry about we did some stuff and you're like but the score you know it's like you're like i'm trying to root for this one team and you're like well you know we'll tell you what to you know think yeah but i think that's part of it like yes you're supposed to be able to work with people who you have differences with but you don't need to like i mean your job is also to represent the people who are your constituents and like there are a lot of people who are his constituents who you know peter king was openly discriminating

against so you know yeah that's your job is to like work with people but that's my job to openly discriminate against people i'm a republican in congress what the fuck do you want from me right uh all right let's talk about uber uh apparently the saudis are the fifth largest investor in uber yeah and uh somebody was interviewing the ceo and they were you know trying to reconcile that fact the kashoggi yeah dara koshra shahi he done fucked up in an interview uh with axios uh because yeah they were bringing up hey you know the sovereign and uh what is it the sovereign wealth fund of saudi arabia like they're you know one of your board members represents that which is by extension

the investment vehicle for the saudi government and you know muhammad bin Salman basically greenlit the murder of a U.S.-based journalist. Isn't that kind of weird? And so he was asked this question directly of being like, how do you square that sort of with this dude on your board? Do you think like he should be up for election if people don't want this person on the board? And this is how it kind of. Well, but from your opinion, he represents and works for a government which you believe had a role in the murder of a journalist who was a U.S. resident. Should that person be on the board of a U.S. company? I think that government said that they made a mistake. Well, they made a mistake

and somebody's dead. Listen, it's a serious mistake. We've made mistakes too, right, with self-driving and we stopped driving and we're recovering from that mistake so i think that people make mistakes it doesn't mean that they can never be forgiven i think they've taken it seriously the cia didn't suggest that they made a mistake and it was an oversight like with self-driving that was a basically a bad sensor correct this was the cia suggested that the crown prince had a role in ordering an assassination it's a different thing you guys didn't intentionally run somebody over i didn't read that part of the CIA report. You're obviously deeper in it.

But I think from a Saudi perspective, they're just like any other shareholder, right? It's we, now we're a public company. Anyone can invest in our company if they choose to do so. And they're a big investor, just like you could be a big investor as well. Hey, look, if you're a big investor, if you're a big investor, we'll call a murder a mistake

or a mercy. That's what it's like to roll with Ubi, baby. Yeah, right after that, though, he did say basically saying that was a mess up. Oh, he did acknowledge that he shouldn't have. He said, I said something in the moment that I do not believe

when it comes to Jamal Khashoggi. his murder was reprehensible and should not be forgotten or excused and then i think he said that at the end of that interview like he in real time was like oh actually what the fuck did i just say i'm already yeah it's one of those things where you're like well i'm fucked the pr person just like self-immolated they're like yeah like no dude i'm not dealing with the fallout of this. And then he tweeted, there's no forgiving or forgetting what happened to Jamal Khashoggi. I was wrong to call it a mistake. As I said, something in the moment I don't believe. Our investors have long known my views here, and I'm sorry I wasn't as clear on Axios.

Yeah. It's just weird. We all fuck up here and there. You know what? That was a mistake. Right. Like you saw that email I sent the other day that had the typo in it. Yeah.

That's a mistake. You know, Saudi Arabia fucked up too. Typos. Murdered journalism. I mean, it's all splitting hairs. He really tried though with that one. I know. Like self-driving cars.

Credit to that journalist being like, to be fair, that was a fucked up sentence. It's not like you're like, hey, make a car that's going to kill somebody. Right. Okay. Take this woman out. That specific going to kill somebody. Right. Okay? Take this woman out. That specific woman was being targeted. Right. They might want to look into that based on these comments.

Yeah. I'm impressed by this next person. Yes. Mia Chang. Mia Chang. Deputy Assistant Secretary in the State Department's Bureau of Conflict and Stability Operations. This is a great position. Which I always follow closely.

Yeah. It's a pretty important position. And at 35, Mia Chang from Dallas, I think is doing quite well for herself. In this department, she helps oversee efforts, quote, to prevent conflicts from erupting in politically unstable countries. She earns six figures at the bureau. And this specific office has a $6 million budget. And usually this person has a top secret security clearance. So she's probably pretty qualified. Right? No. So it turns out she has been lying about a lot of things on her way to

this position. For example, like that, the fact that she attended Harvard, they don't quite can't verify that. Who fact checks that anymore? The scope and impact of her nonprofit organization that she has been patting herself on the back for. She invented a role on a UN panel that didn't exist. Yes. Claimed she had addressed both the Democratic and Republican national conventions, implied she had testified before Congress

and also was walking around with a fake Time magazine cover of herself on it to be like, yeah, I'm that humanitarian. Okay, that's how lit my career is. I assumed it was a bit, right? Not a bit. That can't be, nobody creates that. But there she is being interviewed and somebody says,

here you are on Time Magazine. Congratulations. Tell me about this cover and how it came to be. And she said, well, we started using drone technology and disaster response. And so that when the whole talk of how is technology being used to save lives and disaster response scenarios, I suppose I brought some attention to that.

Very humble. She's even humble about it. I suppose I brought some attention to that. Very humble. She's even humble about it. Very humble. Yeah, she's like, you know. But they didn't be like, which issue is it? You know what I mean? It was a special edition. If you look in the bottom corner, it says special edition.

So it wasn't really widely circulated. It was a very special edition. But why am I on trial? I went to Harvard. I missed that one. It's just such a funny, like that's what i picture literally every politician to be you know what i mean it's just that level of being like i'm gonna say a thousand things of bullshit the rest of them you just go like how many things can you call me out on you know what i mean like

and maybe you call me out on the time magazine thing but then i'll be you're not you're not paying attention it's that like look over here while i do this it's like a magician you know it's the gish gallop that's something we've talked about before. It's this debating technique where you throw out five false things, like in a single sentence. And then like the people have to go through and spend five paragraphs, like refuting everything you said. And by that point, everyone's like,

this is boring. Yeah. Your eyes glaze over. I noticed Donald Trump Jr. Do that on the view the other day. He was like, you did blackface. You said Roman Polanski wasn't a rapist.

You said that like just like through in just like 10 seconds throughout like monstrous accusations of like everyone on The View. And then it was just chaos as they like talked over each other trying to correct what he said. And it was just I mean mean the guy's a brilliant debater oh hell yeah dude uh nobody's doubting the pwnage the pwnage on fucking on the view so chill the reason though why this all kind of came to light was at first in the i think in september or i forget how far back the white house submitted her basically for a larger department in the state and our larger gig at the state department, one that had a billion dollar budget that was dealing with Asia specifically, which makes sense to how people in this

administration would think like, okay, like she's a, she's Asian. Yeah. She's hot. Yeah. All right. Get her. Maybe she can do Asian stuff. Yeah. Not that I have even Trump would probably have a say in that, but like that sort of, like that kind of thinking, like Asian person will deal with Asia relations. Do you remember when that happened? There was a CIA operative

who was a Korean woman and she was like debriefing him on something that wasn't Korea, but it was around the time of the conflict. Oh, right, right, right. And he was like, why isn't she working on Korea?

Like she should be working on Korea stuff. Because what? It's just, politics is just an LA casting office. Right, right, right. And he was like, why isn't she working on Korea? Like she should be working on Korea stuff. Because what? It's just, the politics is just an LA casting office. Right, essentially. You'll be perfect for our new.

It's like, how would an ABC show like pass this role? But yeah, she was going to take a role that had a billion dollar operating budget, but that needed

Senate confirmation. So when they submitted her for Senate confirmation, the people on like the committee were like, can you give us some more details, like receipts on her education and her nonprofit work? Because I don't, this all seems odd. And they're like, you know what?

Yoink. Pulled her out. Pulled her, yeah, pulled the submission. And then like, we'll just put you in this office because you don't need to be Senate confirmed. She's still there. Yeah. It's also the role that she's in is also just such an American government type of role, right?

Where they're like, we just kind of have a lot of money and we throw around when other countries are in turmoil that we're like, we're going to come in. We're going to step in here. Right, right, right. It's like, oh, you're trying to nationalize an industry that an American company can make off of?

How about a coup? Right. USA, world referees, baby. We've got our best people keeping an eye on the situation. Yeah. I think it just speaks to A, the brain drain that's in that area. They cannot find a viable person if their lives depended on it. And also their vetting process is so bad. You have people come around with fake Time Magazine covers at the State Department in positions where presumably they have a top secret security clearance, Although they're not sure if this woman actually got her clearance.

Right. Another fun fact, she was trying to make it as a recording artist. And like her Instagram at one point, you see like she had like a Christmas album like five years ago she was trying to hawk. Oh my God. But the cover, it looks like a perfume ad where it's like her laughing and like a really handsome like stock photo handsome white guy in a tuxedo being like oh you're naughty you know that's just humanitarian yeah you know uh

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He has enough energy to say, can I take your order? And you're like, oh, my God, Michael Jordan, please. You couldn't even let Charles Barkley give his own money away? Yeah. Well, he's a degenerate gambler. I mean, he has. Yeah, he's. Here we're about to hear this.

From another planet. Yes. So this was on a Chicago area sports talk show. And it's a story told by Jeremy Roenick, who was a NHL player when Michael Jordan was lighting shit up in the NBA. And so at one point... Jeremy Roenick? Yeah.

So weird. So at one point, Jeremy Roenick said, Michael Jordan told him to meet me at Sunset Ridge early. We're going to play 18 holes. We played around. I beat him for a couple thousand and got ready to leave. Now the Bulls are playing that night. They played Cleveland that night.

I'm thinking he's leaving. It's 10 o'clock. He goes, no, let's go again. So we go and fill up a bag full of ice and Coors Light and walk again. We were all around another 18 and I take him for another couple thousand dollars. Now we've been drinking all afternoon and he's going from Sunset Ridge to the stadium to play a game. I'm messing around. I'm like, I'm going to call my bookie. All the money you just lost to me, I'm putting it on Cleveland.

He goes, I'll tell you what. I'll bet you that we'll win by 20 points and I have more than 40 points. And I'm like, done. Son of a gun goes out and scores 52 and they win by 26 points. I mean, that's, but that's the kind of guy, that's how he was his whole,

like that's why he was the best. You know what I mean? It's just because he was so competitive to a major fault. Yeah. That's... That he would mistreat other human beings in the name of self-glory. But the fact that he was drinking all day before a game is just bonkers. I mean, how many beers did he really have?

You know what I mean? If he has six cores, I'm like, you can still fucking, you can fucking you could show i don't know that seems that seems like a lot of cores i i based on jeremy ronick's look i feel like they drank a shitload of beers right right i can't i can't quite put my finger on what jordan's alcohol consumption levels are but a hockey player i'm like yeah exactly he's drinking with a hockey player hockey players will drink you under the bar i've heard so many stories about and just the way he like got in people's heads like during the game like the amount of Hockey player. Hockey players will drink you under the bar. I've heard so many stories about it. And just the way he got in people's heads during the game, the amount of shit.

I forget the player. I was like, maybe it was Penny Hardaway. Somebody there one time was talking shit to Jordan during the game, and then he was wearing Jordans while playing. You know what I mean? And then Jordan was like, you're not even good enough to wear my sneakers. You know what I mean? That's a pretty devastating thing to do not even good enough to wear my sneakers. You know what I mean?

That's a pretty devastating thing to do. Yeah, it's like, what do you say to that? He gets in your head, but I've heard so many stories of that where it's like whenever he loses, he's like, alright, double or nothing, double or nothing. We'll just go until you give up. Yeah, exactly. Oh yeah, it was Penny. It was Penny? Yeah, yeah. He said he called me kid.

Yeah. Kid, you're not even good enough to wear my sneakers. Wow. Unreal. Well, we're all three wearing Jordans today. Yeah, exactly. I'm wearing the Knicks version of these. Which makes them very humble.

Yeah, which is the one that he just dominated. It even has the, you know, the 4888 from that specific game. Oh, when he dropped those points? Yeah, where he just dominated. It's like, I feel like I'm being cucked wearing these. I mean, honestly, if science could somehow find out what the power of his ego is,

there has to be some kind of universal language. Like whatever, the fire, the metabolism, whatever the fuck would made him able to put away six beers and then go out and be better than anyone has ever been at basketball like six beers at least it's but also i mean do you think that was a pretty easy prediction i wonder what cleveland at that time dude i'm still he's still playing the nba it's the best athletes in the world. And he, it just, like, yesterday when we read this,

you said superpower. And, like, that really feels like what it is. I mean, because he's playing against the best athletes in the world, and he's that much better than all of them. Or is it greed? Like, it was purely the money? Right. I don't even feel like, I feel like he's a degenerate gambler

because of his competitiveness. It has nothing, I don't think it's, like, the disease in that. I feel like he's a degenerate gambler because of his competitiveness. I don't think it's like the disease in that. It's more of just like I have to win, and if money's riding on it. Money, I feel like, is the secondary thing to him besides just winning and being like. And he's also not a good winner. You know what I mean? When he wins, he's like a piece of shit about it. You know what I mean?

As his Hall of Fame speech will testify. As Craig Elo will know. Yeah. Getting fist pumped right in your skull. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about another 90s icon. We now know what the new Sonic the Hedgehog design looks like. And now we're all going to see it, right?

No human teeth anymore? No human teeth. People were so up in arms in that first trailer. They're like, he has two separate eyes and big ass teeth. Make him have goggle eyes like in the game. That's way better. Yeah, it looks a lot better. It is.

Sadly, I feel like I was barely interested when the first trailer came out. Even if he looked like this in the first trailer, I would have still been like, I don't need a Sonic movie. Think of how many millions of dollars that cost. That little whoopsie. It's like, they had to go do, I mean, I don't know how much of the movie was done at that point, but that's like the entire thing you have to do over. It's crazy. Yeah, because

his mouth is, there's a lot that's different from his nose to the color. Well, I'm sure the color can just be like one click and you can change the color. Every frame, every dialogue, it's all Yeah. They basically took it a shade more cartoonish, right? one click and you can change the color. Every frame, every dialogue. It's all. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

they basically took it a shade more cartoonish, right? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Cause they want it to honor a little bit like the source material. Yes. And I guess in a,

you know, in a packed year of reboots and shit next year of especially reboots that no one wants. Yeah. It's, I can't imagine. Yeah. Nobody's going to go see this, I don't think, unfortunately.

No, I mean, I guess like kids, they're trying to just get the younger generation. Jim Carrey's in it, isn't he? Yeah. Isn't he Dr. Robotnik? It feels like a movie that I would have been hyped about if I was 12, like back then, like late 90s. Then I'm like, oh, Jim Carrey in the Sonic the Hedgehog movie?

Yeah, that's true. Then the kids are busting down the doors at that time. You know who it's going to get, though? It's going to get like 28 to 40-year-old people with kids because then they can take their kids, and it's also nostalgia viewing for them. Well, yeah, I mean, that's who's making movies. That's who's greenlighting these movies right now

is people like your age or maybe a little bit older, but people who did grow up at a time when Sonic was an icon. So when you talk about kids shit, that's what's interesting to them. Right. Yeah. I mean, there's another Bad Boys movie. There's a remake of The Grudge. There's that fucking Dr. Dolittle movie.

Charlie's Angels. Yeah. There's a lot of shit. Godzilla vs. Kong, A Quiet Place 2. The last Godzilla didn't do that well. No. I don't remember any Godzilla doing well. I mean, every single one, I feel like my entire life,

it's always been a bomb. Like, there's the Matthew Broderick one, the little Puff Daddy. Sean Renau. They always just bomb over it, and then they just keep remaking them. Then there's like two of them ago, they only showed Godzilla for like four seconds in the whole film. The one they just came out with, isn't it?

It's like three hours long, like some crazy. They just haven't made a good Godzilla movie in forever. Watch that on a plane. Yeah. I wonder if this will be viewed as like a period. When you look back at the eighties, they're like a handful of really good movies every year. But for the most part,

eighties movies are pretty shit. I wonder if like now through the next couple of decades, or maybe through the next decade will be viewed similarly as like, man, they just were, they kind of hit a dry spell. What happened? I think in terms of like blockbuster big stuff, but there's just so many awesome movies

that have come out, I feel like, in the last year. Like with The Favorite, like last year and all that stuff too. Like all of those like big, like unique, there's so many great, I mean, obviously The Joker and stuff like that. Like there's been so many great films,

just like the giant, you know, Transformers style ones are the, yeah, the blockbusters. The tent poles are starting to wane a little bit. They used to make like 40 movies a year in the eighties. Like that's all. Yeah. And like now it's.

No, I remember like for a while, like I felt like my knowledge of film was encyclopedic up until like 1998. Right. I always knew the movies. I'm like, yeah, I remember that.

I didn't see it, but I know what you're talking about. Right. Now I'm like, what? Every movie. The what? With who? Huh? Also, somebody was, this. I didn't see it, but I know what you're talking about. Right. Now I'm like, what? I knew every movie that came out. With who?

Huh? Also, somebody was, this isn't even on the doc, but so that movie Dr. Sleep came out that is like a sequel to, it's like Danny from The Shining. Oh, The Shining, yeah. That it's basically a sequel to The Shining and people, I was reading an analysis because it also bombed just like the Terminator movie before. And somebody was saying that like The Shining isn't iconic enough to carry like a sequel. Yeah. My read on what was wrong with that is that the title was so stupid.

Right. Dr. Sleep just sounds like it's like a. Sounds like either a comedy or a game. Sounds like a comic book fucking movie. It's like a mattress store. Right. Dr. Sleep is a mattress store. And like people would have been down for the right Shining sequel.

But like the, I just like the trailer mixed with the title. Like just, it didn't tell you really what it was or like how it related to the Shining. Sure. Like I, I don't think, I wouldn't blame the original Shining. People were like, yeah, I mean, it's not a family movie. And I'm like, dude, everybody fucking, like The Shining is a rite of passage. The Shining is one of my favorite movies.

But I think it's a movie too. A lot of people act like they know because they feel like they should know it and don't actually engage with it. So it's like, oh yeah, The Shining. Yeah, here's Johnny, right? Like the sound bites of it. They're like, oh, those kids in the tricycle yeah come play with us right that's the thing and blood

and shit like where that's where i feel like people know but i don't know how many people like i think if you really like film then you do know the shining but for other people it's almost like oh yeah i know that beatles album like you just say it because you it's accepted as being really good but you don't really give a fuck it It's the 16-year-old wearing the Ramones t-shirt. You're like, name two songs they've done. Ram One. Ram Ones? I love Ram Ones.

I love Ram Ones. I love Ram Ones. The Ram Ones? And The Shining, too. It's like, I love... When The Shining came out like Stephen King hated it you know like it's just

it's so funny even that film it's like you know even when it came out at the time people were like and that's something he was like

it wasn't a it wasn't a huge hit at the time it was that dude Scott Mendelsohn whose takes I always usually agree with

but I thought I didn't I didn't think it was the lack of The Shining being iconic because it's a classic like that Because it's a classic.

It's a classic, and it is like a rite of passage. It's like the scariest movie. Like when you're coming of age and people are like, oh, you've seen a scary movie, but have you seen The Shining? Like it's the scariest movie. Like it's the scariest movie you can watch at a sleepover. I think there's too much of a generational gap. I think like I don't know how many gen z kids like yeah even now right like

gen x people will all accept that the shining is like that movie right and it starts to get a little bit diluted when you get to the millennials yeah and then around my age like i feel like people in their 30s you have maybe 50 50 people have seen it people haven't and then right but a lot of people will be like but yeah i get it get it. It's like important movie. Right. But like now, I don't know. I don't know how much that means, how, like what that momentum is now beyond us, the olds. Bill Simmons on Parent Corner was saying his son went as Jack Nicholson from The Shining this year. So that's one example.

That's called dad of the year. Right. Dad of the year. That was like when I remember my dad tried to get me to watch like some old James Bond movie. And he was like, nah, this is actually the one you want to see. And I'm like, yo, this shit sucks, bro. Yeah, exactly. A lot of things don't hold up when you see them.

Like, especially if you grew up like with them being hyped. I watched Boondock Saints for the first time like a couple months ago after everyone being, especially in my college. Like everyone was like, dude, you're Irish, this is the movie. And I'm like, this is the movie.

I watched that and I was like, Did you go to college in Southie? Yeah, no, not even. But it was like,

it's just one of those things where you go, oh, okay. And then there's so much hype to it. And then I watched it and I was like, oh,

this is terrible. This is a terrible film. If it wasn't for, Willem Dafoe was the only reason to watch that. And even he is. He plays this wildly overflamboyant character. It doesn't make, nothing makes sense. It's so, it's so out of touch with reality

in terms of the things they're able to do, both physically, they're like superhumans or angels. I don't even know what's going on in it. Wait, what? They're like archangels, but they're not, but they like act like they do. It's a weird, it's a weird scene.

I had no idea what the movie was. I thought it was like belly for white people. I think that's exactly what it is. In my mind. I was like, I'm like, I'll watch belly. Right.

Cause I want to, you know, I want to learn about Louis Rankin and Jamaican gangs or something like Shata's. But then there's like, I, cause I, yeah,

I never saw it because I think like a couple people really liked it. Every, my like friend group, but I there's like i because yeah i never saw it because i think like a couple people really liked it in my like friend group but i was just like i don't what is it this is like a scene where they're he's like handcuffed to like a sink while his brother is about to be murdered and then he just gets so mad he just like pulls the sink off like the pipe just pulls it off the wall so he works yeah you know what i mean it was just yeah we're just like he just gets so mad he goes ah and just pulls it off like okay so you're just like the hulk like heroin addicts yeah yeah exactly yeah and they have the body of heroin addicts hard cut to a plumbing ad or they're like has this ever happened to you yeah call mike diamond has this ever happened to you yeah dropping big mud pies all right let's talk about uh something for all

the parents to be aware of uh some people may be genetically predisposed to hating certain vegetables yeah i did not i saw the headline it's like it could be in your genetics right and apparently if everyone in here so this is from this this BBC article, I'll read from it directly. It says, everyone inherits two copies of a taste gene called TAS2R38. It encodes for a protein in the taste receptors on the tongue, which allows us to taste bitterness. People who inherit two copies of a variant of the gene called AVI are not sensitive to bitter taste from certain chemicals. But anyway, they go on to say, if you have two copies of a different variant, PAV, often called super tasters, those people tend to find certain foods

exceptionally bitter. So they're saying inheriting two copies of the unpleasant taste gene provides a ruin your day level of bitterness to foods like broccoli and sprouts. That's strongly worded. Even beer, coffee, or dark chocolate, depending on who you are. So that's what, like, I used to like bitter beer, and, like, I like coffee.

Like, it doesn't ruin my day when it's a little bit bitter. So I'm guessing I'm not one of these people. And it just suggests that there is like a level of hating vegetables that my mind can't even conceive of. Like, it's just like, there's a depth there that like, I,

I assumed that we were all working from the same palette and, uh, turns out, nah. Well, they say your taste buds change every like seven years or something like that, which is why like, you know, you could hate coffee you could hate coffee or whatever at this point in your life,

and then later on it starts to taste better and stuff like that. But I always just remembered vegetables. The reason I didn't like them as a kid, I just was like, they're so bland. It wasn't a bitterness thing. I was like, they taste like nothing. Boring, huh? They're boring, yeah. Did you hate a specific vegetable growing up?

But it was just really the bland argument I remember there was some I've always remembered like you know like corn and peas and spinach I was down with but like yeah like I don't think broccoli

I fucked with I mean cauliflower is like the quintessential like nobody wants that kind of bullshit but yeah I mean now it's like now I love it all

you know what I mean which is so weird and I think it is when you like you know I remember when I first started drinking coffee coffee is a great example

of that and same with beer where you're like I started with like java chip frappuccinos from Starbucks because it tasted like a milkshake

you know what I mean and then I went to and then I went to Dunkin Donuts iced coffee with like heavy milk and heavy sugar and so then

and then all of a sudden you slowly like wean off less sugar less sugar no sugar and they're like black yeah and now it's like wean off. Less sugar, less sugar, no sugar. Yeah, now it's like milk. It's like now I'm like, if they put more than a thimble of almond milk in my coffee, I just

throw it at the wall. I'm like, do it over. You know? I'm like, what am I drinking? Almond milk? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't know.

I mean, I don't like the taste of raw carrots. Yeah. I don't know if it's a bitterness thing. Really? I just don't like it. It's just, I think the flavor. Is it the mouthfeel? No, because it's weird. I'll eat that shit with's a bitterness thing. Really? I just don't like, it's just, I think the flavor. Is it the mouth feel? No,

because it's weird. I'll eat that shit with hummus. Okay. Yes. But like, give me a handful of raw carrots. I'm like, oh.

I think I always imagined myself like eating, I don't know. It was like, that's the hardest thing you could eat. Like, so I would imagine I'm like a wood chipper or something. No, because of just like the consistency. It's like,

yeah. Fuck, carrot. Bugs Bunny really put that in our head. I think the most inconsistent fruit on the planet is grapes. Our grapes. Yeah, soft old ones. I mean, it's like every grape. Even in one stem of them, you could be like, best grape I ever had, best grape I ever had. This one's filled with lime juice, apparently.

And then this one just tastes like an old, like i'm sucking on an old grandma's elbow like it just tastes like loose awful skin yeah another one's like a soft old fish eyeball yeah yeah yeah it like it like doesn't yeah it doesn't snap into it you know that's why i think uh recently when i've bought them at like a farmer's market or something i'm what i asked him i'm like the ones that are on there, can you eat those? Like, should I not give a fuck? And they're like, you're fine, I think. And I'm like, I think I'm fine too.

But now I inspect bunches of grapes. Oh, yeah. I'm trying to say, what's the ratio here of like fully perfect ones? Yeah. You know, because I get it. Nature is imperfect. But got to have your grapes. I like Concord's.

Yeah. And Kill Hole grapes. I like Concord's. I like, yeah. And Kill Hole grapes. I like a good sweet, like I hate a Granny Smith apple. I can't eat that. It's way too, I don't know. My wife loves those and I'm like, I can't imagine enjoying anything less. Yeah.

They're so tart. Yeah. It's like a, I feel like something like a monk would do is like a spiritual practice. And enjoy that. Yeah. Does it define Zen and Nirvana? Wellvana well it's like you cannot know sweet unless you know bitter yeah i'm like okay fool just give me my fucking apple just walk across the hot color yeah i feel like

knowing grape brands is my next level like i figured out like the apple brands that i like and apple brands i don't like right now there's green or red grape. Right. But for me, yeah, it's just like, I like the crunchy ones, not the soft ones.

And I don't like seeds, but like the fact that, you know, your grape brands, that's, that's something I aspire to. The level of produce mindfulness. It's just like when you start,

you know, I love grapes, man. I just love them. They fucking straight out the refrigerator, like ice cold. That's really one of them. Ever put them in the refrigerator, like ice cold. That's really one of my favorites. Ever put them in the freezer?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not too bad. But I just like the, it's a little more work when they're frozen versus like when they're just out the refrigerator, I feel like I'm just eating mini grape juices. Right. Yeah. That's another thing. That's not what we're chasing.

That you get more appreciation for when you have kids is grapes. Because they just treat them like candy. Right. They're just like, really? I just get to eat these? Yeah, eat this whole bunch,

man. That's insane. That and helicopters, guys. All right. Mike, it's been a pleasure having you, man.

Where can people find you and follow you? Thanks so much. I have a, my debut album, Rage Against the Routine, is out right now, available everywhere. Please check that out. You do look like the kid

from the Evil Empire cover. Have you seen the cover of my album? I did, I was looking at it, yeah. Because that's my whole life I got told that I look like that kid. Wait, really? Yeah, my whole life. Always, seriously.

And it kind of worked out on a level because Rage Against the Machines was my favorite band growing up. Now they also reunited the week the album came out, which, coincidence? You're welcome, America. Yeah, but it's very apropos as well

because my set is mostly me being angry about really routine bullshit things. So really, it works. But mikefeeneycomedy.com on social media at I am Mike Feeney across the board, Instagram, Twitter, and all that stuff. Oh, and I have a podcast, storytelling podcast called Irish Goodbye, which is available everywhere you listen to podcasts. Nice. Do you Irish Goodbye?

I did it as recently as last night. It's one of my few really good skills on this planet. Yeah. And here's the thing too, my co-host and my candidate and I, we argue because we both Irish goodbye, but we have different approaches to it. My Irish goodbye is once I leave, you don't hear from me until the next day minimum, you know? And then he leaves and he'll like text everybody being like, hey, I just, I'm gone.

I Irish goodbye because he wants that last like, oh no, why'd you leave? You know, that last like, oh, we'll see you later. He claims it so that people know he's safe, but I'm like, I Irish goodbye, because he wants that last, like, oh, no, why'd you leave? You know, that last, like, oh, we'll see you later. He claims it so that people know he's safe, but I'm like, I'm sorry. You just got to know me. If you know me enough to reach out to me to see if I'm safe, you know if I Irish goodbye, I'm out. Yeah, when Batman disappears on Commissioner Gordon,

he doesn't send a text to you, like, hey, man, I'm down the alleyway. Exactly. I'll see you later. Sorry you were in the middle of a sentence. I just found it was, like, perfect timing. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh yes absolutely So I love Another comedian that is now out here in LA

Josh Gondelman Is so funny and he's always so funny On Twitter but this one particularly Tickled me from I think it was yesterday The day before he says I've been meeting more people who consider themselves Cali sober, which is don't drink, but still smoke weed. But I'm still more comfortable around people who are Boston sober, which is court ordered to cut out booze after

crashing their car into a Dunkin' Donuts. That's great. Josh is so funny. He's the best. And such a nice dude. Suspiciously nice, I would say. Yeah, I don't buy it. Yeah, I have questions. Yeah, fuck that guy, right? Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. Some tweets I like.

One's from Dana Donnelly. No one. This tweet constructs itself. Anyway, me after not having sex for a month, responding to a guy's text at 1 a.m. Yeah, sure. I'd love to come meet you at your friend's backyard punk show. That sounds so fun. And then another one is from Brittany Nichols at Bish Hilarious.

Women really be 20 minutes late for a departure time they said and then yelled, you come in from the door. Jasmine Cherie Sanders tweeted why do I have to share my birthday with Leo DiCaprio of all people? A man who has never once celebrated a woman growing older.

And Sean Clements tweeted push notifications are thirsty as fuck. That's true. It is. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website,

DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on. Miles, what's that going to be today? This is a song from Pink Sifu, S-I-I-F-U, called Pray Every Day. Yeah.

Just like Justin and his wife hate to do. Pray every day over each other. Just like Bone. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, just a great example of, like, old sample-based hip-hop. Nice little drum sample. Nice little jazz sample put together with some lyrics. And you got a track.

So that's Pray Every Day by Pink Seagull. All right. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for today. We'll be back this afternoon and then tomorrow morning with more podcasts. Talk to you then. Bye. Running out of time.

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