The Daily Zeitgeist - RICO For The People? Six Degrees Of Separation = LAW 09.06.23

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

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You heard it. You're back. This is a podcast Miles, in case you forgot, where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Wednesday, September 6th, 2023. Oh, yeah. That is six. Oh, yeah.

It's National Read a Book Day. National Coffee Ice Cream Day. Kind of a light day for such a day. Yeah. Read a book and enjoy some coffee ice cream day. Kind of a light day for such a day. That's it? Yeah. Read a book and enjoy some coffee ice cream? Yeah. Why not?

Hey, we appreciate the slow day. Yeah. National word of what day things are. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Freeze up like my brain had a glitch. Freeze up like my brain had a glitch. Freeze up like my brain had a glitch. Whoa, whoa. Must be the seizing of the Mitch.

Yeah, that is courtesy of Hugo Boss. A little season of the witch, seizing of the Mitch, a.k.a. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Sí, es meraviglioso ser retornado. So good to be back. It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. the Prince of Julia, the Man of Monopoly, the OG of Ostuni, and the wonderful lover of Focaccia Barese. Thank you so much for having me.

It's just so good to be back in this place. I guess you called the United States. I was just spending some time in Puglia, which is known as the heel of the boot of Italy. And between the Adriatic Sea views and the fresh seafood, I must say it is a storied place that you simply must visit. How about them conical domes, though? Oh, you mean the trulli?

Those are the traditional farmhouses of the region, which have these sort of, yes, like you say, whitewashed conical domes that are just, they're whimsical. Whimsy is the only word that can describe them. You can just assume, listener, I know you can't see, but you can just assume that at any point during this conversation, one of us will be kissing our hands like doing a little chef's kiss thing while the other one's talking. Yes, absolutely. In vigorous agreement. Thank you. Thank you.

It's great to be back. Thank you to everybody who guest hosted. And like you heard in yesterday's uh weekend recap episode i am recharged and i have experienced growth again shout out to jack for putting my brain go outside your comfort zone outside comfort zone to italy no but now every day though i really think about that shit like being like whether it's just a little light exercise, a little, you know, chores I've been putting off doing them right away. Kind of just always being like,

no, go against that. Go against the sort of, you know, your default comfort zone, flapping your face in the mirror, like a movie psycho. Yeah.

It's just anything. Come on. Come on. Exactly. Well, miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the people who was sitting in our second seat, that very seat you sit on while you were away in Italy. A very talented writer and stand-up comedian.

Her advice on sex and travel has been featured everywhere. Mental strategist, Betches, anywhere men need help fingering, to quote the bio on her website. Yeah. Chelsea Coates, the great 90 Day Fiance podcast for 20 Day Fiance with some guy named Miles. Welcome to the show. The hilarious, the talented Sophia Alexandra. Oh, my goodness. I'm so glad I get to clown with both of you because I was busy being Italian Miles while Italian Miles was being Italian Miles. It was confusing for everyone.

Oh, well, it's always good to. It's just wild to also be do this podcast with you, Sophia, because we have our own language of incoherent banter on 420 Day Fiance. Now we must make it coherent for the Daily Zeitgeist. For the children. Yes, exactly. You can tell you guys have spent a lot of time talking to one another because Sophia absolutely nailed her prediction of what Italian Miles was going to be when he

came back. And as did you. I think between the two of you, you knew it was going to be some form of intolerable guy version. Stanley Tucci on the exponent of 20 you knew it was going to be some form of intolerable guy version stanley tucci on fucking x but like the exponent of 20 i believe the first thing i said to jack was oh god he's gonna be so unbearable again when he comes back and he's like oh i know and then right as I show up today, I'm like, this fool, Focaccia? And then Jack's like, he's been talking about Focaccia all fucking morning.

All morning. What can I say? He's been talking about Focaccia. What can I say? You knew. You knew. You knew. Chef's kiss.

He did bring a live mandolin player back from Italy with him. So anytime you hear mandolin music, that's... It's live. You can assume it's Captain Corelli's. When I was doing the... When I was coming back in the country trying to explain who the mandolin player was, I was like, this is my other son, who's older than me.

We'd like to just come home. We're just coming home. That's right. We're a regular family. I'm like that politician and his boyfriend's son that he adopted. Oh, Giuseppe? Giuseppe, what? Yeah, yeah. Oh, are you talking about Matt Gaetz? You know I am.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very, very shady. Matt Gaetz and his boyfriend's son. Somehow I became shadier than Matt Gaetz trying to smuggle an older mandolin player back into the United States. But it happens. This immigration forum is really about found family, like many of my favorite films and TV shows. Anyways. All right. Sophia, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. Cop City protesters just got hit with a Rico in Georgia.

So, yeah, Georgia is just a dark story all the way through. Yeah. We'll tell you about what's going on there. Some private equity firms. Somehow. You'll be shocked to know private equity is involved in the building of a 60 million dollar police city. Yeah. Truly. Police police city. Yeah. Truly.

Complex. Police industrial complex. Yeah. It's actually $60 million coming from corporate donors and I think the other $30 million is coming from elsewhere. Oh, my bad.

Totals to $90 million. Yeah. There's probably a lot of money. We're going to talk about, there's a lot of talk on the right about how Trump is going to be assassinated. Tucker Carlson keeps bringing it up. We will talk about it.

Just do it already, Tucker. Stop hyping yourself up. I'm so worried for this. Yeah, so he really wants that to happen. He's at the edge of the pool trying to psych himself up to jump in. But there's a long history of this going back to, I had kind of forgotten this, the 2016 campaign where somebody raised a sign that was critical of trump and somebody else in this crowd yelled gun and oh no everyone was like there was an attempted assassination on donald trump

that was complete bullshit so we'll talk about that we'll talk about the six degrees of kevin bacon being a mathematical fact they did they did a study into the six degrees of separation that, you know, we're all pretty much on average six degrees separated from one another and found that it's actually like true almost invariably. true. We might even talk about Elon Musk claiming that the Anti-Defamation League is the reason that he's bad at his job. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Sophia, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Okay, so I have recently gone insane. Congratulations. And thank you so much. It's been, I've been working so hard. It's really just, it's just an honor

to be nominated and win. Right. Yeah. Truly. On your first try. This is how you know I'm insane.

Okay. I went from not caring or liking Taylor Swift at all to now joining a Reddit called Gaylor where I have seen multiple slideshow presentations that prove that taylor swift was gay with carly kloss and others that prove that she was also

gay with diana agron from glee and also this other model from britain named lily they are all just the same white woman she's just fucking herself over and over again it's just like kind of fascinating and now like this is how you know i've gone insane because if you look at that search history you will probably think i am 17 maybe i don't know and you're shipping shipping taylor with all these models i like i don't care that it's like i don't know. And you're shipping Taylor with all these models. I like I don't care that it's like I don't have a vested interest in the relationships. Right. I care about it in the same way that if like you found out that like, I don't know, Obama and Biden were lovers. You were like, OK, I need to know a little bit more about how the fuck this worked

like how did you pull this off when they when would they get together i need to all of the questions yeah it's like well how do you do that and have full-time boyfriends like this is a lot of like like covering being gay like how how are you pulling it off so anyway just if you want to lose your goddamn mind go down that rabbit hole. Are these slideshows like particularly compelling or they're just like, look at all these images that if you have your confirmation bias set to Gaylor, then get ready. Yes. And yes. But also some of the stuff is like, wow, that is very gay. I don't know that I should be out here trying to decide whether Taylor is gay or not. But the whole Reddit is run by other gay people who are just obsessed with the idea that

like she's queer and her music is queer and she's been telling us and showing us and we're just like not getting it. So as a cultural cultural study it is the most fascinating thing and to answer your slideshow question some of them are like they're like a little thumbprint they're like a very individual snapshot of a person's mind right it's like all confirmation bias obviously the modern rorschach test yeah but you're also watching them interpret song lyrics where you're like oh no that just means anything you wanted to mean that is a very vague lyric right like no it refers to the one time that carly bought a gold dress it was this date here's the receipt the song that says jeans and nikes carly was a nike

spokesperson in 2016 you understand how deep these women go? I love that you also have facts now that like, you know, these models like endorsement deals. I shouldn't know any of this. That is what's so insane. I shouldn't know any of it. I shouldn't be thinking about it. It is like an addiction. Like, I think assume what people feel like when they gamble. Just like a rush.

It's like insane and it doesn't make any sense but you're like let's keep doing it yeah anyway the game there's subreddit do it she kind of has to be everything to everyone right right and so like by keeping things that perfectly vague yeah it kind of creates this thing where she can like break all the box office records. Right. She lets people go watch a concert that they can also watch in person. gay she's only gay for exact copies of herself which i think is a fascinating category it's like no she's not queer she's queer for taylor right i just want to find mirror images of myself to fuck that is so wild wasn't that liberace's thing like didn't he have a lover who he gave plastic surgery to look more like Liberace? Yes. Oh, wow. Yes, that is true. Yeah. You said that so unequivocally. Yes, that is true. Well, because, yeah, I mean, people bring that up a lot as like a Liberace thing. They're like, did you know? Because it's

so weird. I wonder if like, I think it's an interesting exercise just for anyone with an imagination to try and make anything true about taylor swift like using the same methodology we're like you actually if you think about it all of her lyrics are steeped in like black panther ideology right i swear to god there's someone right now making that slideshow right right right like for sure there's a swift contingency that's like you don't understand what being a black panther is until you listen to red right taylor's version it's like red is actually an anthem for the crip gang despite it being called red and here in this thread i will i will you've seen the theory that her dad is the zodiac killer right and that oh yeah she's trying to

reveal that through her lyrics i just made that up but that is again probably being built right now right right i feel like as you said it people were like this is true 100 yeah what's uh what's something you think is overrated okay so say foc Say focaccia from the heel of the boot of Italy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I think is bullshit? Focaccia. Focaccia just generally? All of it, but especially the kind that comes from,

how would you say, the boot of the Italy. I think that specifically sucks balls. Yeah. Nothing to say. You've always sucks balls. Yeah. Nothing to say. You've always said that. Yeah. Because, you know, and I get what you're trying to do, but unless you've actually roamed the old central historic core of body,

how could you know? You know, and it sounds like you're just grasping at things, but go on. Yeah, just stand by my statement okay yeah stand by that focaccia i need a statement i need a sandwich that fucking sweats on my hands man oh i'm good um over here yeah also why does it not have a proper crust why does it not have a proper crust i'm gonna get you know what i'm gonna do this week i'm gonna get you fucking with me you got no crust right now i'm gonna get i'm gonna get thrown out bro i'm gonna go to italy and get thrown out for being too annoying i'm gonna go sorry did you bake this and what were you thinking with this focaccia you were making

do you know what is are you guys bound by a certain recipe or are you allowed to do make actual focaccia just curious thank you so much are you bound by a certain recipe it's the weirdest way to put it because i'm yeah because i'm i'm assuming they're a prisoner of of food in that place in the jail we call you can't think this is as good as body what happens is they put all of the smuggled mandolin players and eat it and they can't leave that's fucked up I will play mandolin

at your next event help me escape what's something that you think is underrated actually it's kind of crazy that this bread thing came up because legitimately before we ever started joking about focaccia, I think sangok, the Persian bread, is so fucking underrated. And no one ever gets it. People always think lavash, but no, sangok is what you want. And there's a place in Westwood because it's like a persian area that

fresh bakes theirs and you get it and it's still warm and they put so many fucking sesame seeds on it and the black and white kinds both seeds and it is so good and you can cut it into pieces because it's like three feet long or whatever and then you freeze those pieces if you want then just pop them in the toaster and you always have it and that bread i'm telling you don't sleep on it it is so good sangok wow how are we how are we spelling this s-a-n-g-a-k sangok there it is wait when did you wait how did you intersect with that what happened the bakery's next door to where i work out which is terrible idea for me right next door yeah i'm like uh cool workout can have three feet of bread absolutely but that's what happens and it smells so good so i was like hit me just off the strength of like the smell coming out of there. You're like, like a, like a Looney Tunes cartoon.

You're just like drawn in through the nose. Lifted off your feet. No, my trainer, the woman that runs the bakery dropped it off for him. It's just like, she does that because they're all friends. They're all like friends in the little strip. And he was like, have some. And I tried some and I was like, oh my God. You're like, I'm in the middle of a

super set right now really it's like yeah yeah just have a couple bites and then we'll go back to your core work oh okay yeah yeah i'm like just uh just can i jog towards the bread real quick it's so fucking good all right like at a time they they it's i would hazard that they know exactly what they're doing right like that at a time when somebody is like burning up a bunch of calories and carbs that they're coming by to hand deliver yards of delicious bread. I, that's, uh, I have my hats off to them actually.

Well, and also like the moral licensing that happens, like with your eating habits, when you're working out, you can just be like, I just worked out. So you know what? I can eat 700 X, Ys or Zs.

Exactly. I get the logic. So credit to them for their four-dimensional thinking and marketing. I love an X-Wiser. Elon Musk's new beer. It's called something real simple like bread. I don't know. Sorry.

I'm not hopeful. I'm just gonna like shout out this place then i'm like i think it's called something so simple that googling it will do nothing right right bread bakery oh really yeah uh google bread and it's no, that's not going to work out, Sophia. Oh, I know. Google, which is where I work out. There. Exactly. So if you want to catch her, that's where she'll be. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Please don't. Are you sure you... We're deleting all of that. Let's just let people find... Yeah. They can just find... Do their own searches for... It's a beautiful mystery for you to discover.

There you go. Let your nose take you. Let your nose take you. Just follow your nose as it lifts you off your feet and for you to discover. There you go. Let your nose take you. Let your nose take you. Just follow your nose as it lifts you off your feet and pulls you into traffic. Did that ever happen in one of the cartoons where somebody smells a good smelling pie and then is immediately hit and killed by a truck? Yeah, they do the thing where they think like they do like them. I'm trying to portray what the cartoon walk looks like when the cartoon character is like mesmerized and they're like they're just like like marching forward like in a way where they're not

noticing anything and i think it's like they end up being like dodging cars or cars dodging them just barely yeah frogger style just narrowly missing death although i love every time they died immediately you're a harp angel who just goes out of your body. Just conditioned to believe that is what happens. I have to imagine that would be your first move. It's a good cartoon and it knows the power

of three. That ghost will also be murdered. A tinier ghost playing a mandolin. See, and there we go. Now we just tied it together going to italian that's a herald you've just witnessed you've just experienced a herald folks you've been heralded bitch you've been heralded right unheralded herald like angels anyways uh we're gonna move on uh let's take a quick break. We'll come back. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts,

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A lot of people. I'm clear who the bad guys are, right? Yeah. Oh, of course. The protesters. Thank you. Of course. How dare you they're getting

hit with charges like domestic terror for like trying to disable like machines or like you know they're like they were throwing molotov cocktails and all this other stuff money laundering because they were setting up bail funds they're trying to like they're going after these people in the most fucked up way the charges are being pursued by the state's attorney general you know republican chris carr and yeah this is like a it's a multi-faceted movement of people that realize that building these police training facilities are just merely a terrible escalation of the militarized like police state that we're experiencing across the country and you know antithetical to lowering instances of police brutality when you're like here's like a here's a whole place where you can train on how to suppress people's you know democratic rights

and things like that it's like the police brutality training complex oh yeah because they want it they want to be like we want them to have the feeling of what it's like to like you know kettle people in city streets or neighborhoods so they can do it more efficiently to like round up people and you know the attorney general and governor have been just steadily screaming about how like this this whole thing is actually the work of like an org it's like organized criminals this is a criminal organization and enterprise to sort of create this rico narrative to go after protesters. And if you want to really understand how cynical and racist this shit is, if you just look at the date listed on the indictments for like they like they're putting May 25th, 2020 as sort of like the beginning of like this shit going down, which is the day George Floyd was murdered.

OK, wow. So they want to conflate this event with all of the scary blm protests to say like you see what's going on folks it's just this like large movement to sow discord and chaos when all we're trying to do is make people safer but one of the da's in atlanta sherry boston said that her office would withdraw withdraw from criminal cases involving the cop like involving cop city but it's this is some scary shit i mean like these are people exercising their first amendment rights and the state and city of atlanta have just made the whole this like into a campaign of like democratic suppression you know like there's the officials they blocked a referendum on cop city they ignored all the pleas from the public all the public comment

we do not want this or other people in like dekKalb County were like, this is near where I live. This is, I do not want this. I do not want to see the forest raised so you can create this fucked up training facility. Then there were people who were like, like local election board members were removed for opposing cop city. And now we're charging protesters with domestic terrorism under the RICO Act. Yeah. Also, I was going to say that you should have so much shame that you're using the fucking RICO Act, which was used to bring down Capone. Yeah. Right. On these people. Yeah. Like just the fact like how do you even put that in your mind together as even remotely in the same camp? even put that in your mind together as even remotely in the same camp well it's just so fucking yeah i mean i i always am shook and like speechless because like i expect people at some point to have shame and then i'm like no but they don't like what am i talking about they're heartless

and yeah driven completely by uh money and power so why am I so shocked? But it's like every fucking time, you know. And to try and, again, scare people from wanting to put checks and balances, you know, on our system, especially as it relates to law enforcement. It's like, oh, you want to protest this? Watch us go scorched earth on your ass. Meanwhile, we're like, yeah, these people who like storm that, you know, like we have like people, capital protesters where you see judges be like well you know actually i kind of want to go softer in my sentencing here or there where you have a very focused ag's office in georgia being like yeah you know what let's go let's go rico on them and try and make an example of these people also sorry i was just gonna say i was legally arrested for protesting in college. Illegally.

Yeah. Illegally arrested for protesting in college. And I was part of a class action lawsuit against the Metropolitan Police Department in D.C. And we won. And like. It was one of the most kind of fucked up and traumatic things being detained the way I was. I also wasn't a citizen yet. I was just a resident alien. And like they, you know, took all of my paperwork, my resident alien card, all my shit. Like when the cops batoned it off of me, like effort and everything it takes to even go through a thing where you would then sue.

Like we ended up changing the law, but the number of years that it takes, like and the way that they treated us. You know, I was zip tied right hand to left foot for like over 12 hours you know the way they fucking like treated us in jail whatever it just it was super fucked up but the fact that they did that friday morning really early before an entire weekend of protests, that's pretty much the same tactic here. It's like, they try to go hard early to discourage protesting. You know what I'm saying? In the future, and it's the same tactics that Bush used, because it was, they were training in riot gear cops for months before this. Like it was all they had buses numbered ready to go because they were like,

we're taking hundreds of people off the street. So then for the rest of the weekend, there's no protests. Yeah. So it's like it just like it makes me so fucking pissed because these people are going to get fucked on a much, much larger scale. What I'm talking about is child's play. And it still was hard to get any sort of justice or change the law or have anything be different. And I feel like the number one thing they tell you when you protest, right, they're like, hey, you know, you guys are thugs.

You don't use the system correctly. Like, why don't you use the lawful system? And everyone did in this instance too yeah and it's like okay well i'll tell you i did the actual lawsuit and the lawful thing and it is that is not you think that that's justice or that that's really what people should be doing or that that fixes anything like obviously if you're thinking that there's the right and wrong way to protest you also are going to think that there's never the right way yeah people went to those city council meetings they gathered signatures they did every they tried it every single way but again when you have municipality in this bureaucracy that's just intent like just

so intent on making this installation happen no matter what you get these kinds of fucked up measures and yeah i'd hate to bring up private equity no don't do it miles but it can't have anything to do with two of the biggest corporate backers of cop city are rork capital which is a private equity firm that owns inspire brands you know duncan arby's baskin robbins buffalo wild wings etc their ceo sits on the board of trustees for the atlanta police that owns Inspire Brands, you know, Duncan, Arby's, Baskin-Robbins, Buffalo Wild Wings, etc. Their CEO sits on the board of trustees for the Atlanta Police Foundation, and they're raising $60 million from corporate donors

to build this place. Like, so there's one part of it. The other is Silver Lake Management, which sounds like a cool maybe talent agency that represents bands from the east side of LA, but no, no. Nah, it sounds like a land lording agency. Right.

Like you rent your apartment from in Silver Lake. Right. Exactly. Silver Lake Management. They actually are tech focused private equity firm and they have a huge stake in Motorola Solutions, a.k.a. the company that designed the surveillance system to make atlanta the most surveilled city in the united states and they also develop really cool tools for use in prisons the u.s mexico border and surprise surprise the west bank because we talk about there's this

conversation of using these sort of like crowd control technologies they start off they can they use them like abroad and the west bank fine-tune them and then we end up seeing them boomerang onto our own shores used against our people who are exercising their first amendment rights so yeah it's wild to think that the the ratio of cameras to people in atlanta it's 40 almost 49 cameras per thousand people in atlanta that's the highest it's more than dc it's more than new york city and you're like huh huh it also feels like we're seeing like a fucos boomerang on like the legal precedent of like okay we cheered when they used this against trump and then they're like okay so you're good with

and then watch this we're gonna use it against your ability to protest against a fucking military installation. It's just amazing. These are the people that are like, I'm sorry, the Second Amendment is everything. I'm like, OK, well, what about that other amendment? Yeah. You know, the one that protects the right to protest, which you should be into because you're so into the law of the land. Right.

No, no. That amendment, I guess, is bullshit. bullshit the first amendment we just don't look at that one that one's just like what else yeah and i mean you then you look at like even protesters that were killed by the police over the court like it's this is it's it's it's mind-blowing and yeah now again it's like the republican attorney general's like yeah watch this i'll use the same grand jury that got those charges for Trump and we'll use it for this now. Yeah. So I think there's a really valid point, Sophia, that like they're, you know, as we see more fear from the wealthy, as we see the billionaire owner of Cartier lose more sleep over the idea that like eventually the people are going to be pissed that we're billionaires right like you know the more we see that the more we're going to see things like this where they're trying to make an example of people protesting yeah I think

it's imperative that we like keep attention on these people and like, you know, understand that these are people who are working on our behalf, even though I think the mainstream media narrative is not always going to be very favorable to the to the protesters. Right. No. And you hardly would you hear a thing where it's like, wow, they're they're really I mean, again, everything is always tinged with slightly pro cop bias. Right. So they just want to make it look like it's a bunch of like hippies who want to save the trees in the forest. When a lot of people like this is again, we're ramping up our militarized police state in a time when all they've proven, all we've seen from our law enforcement system is that it doesn't work, doesn't work. It doesn't prevent crime. All it does is pile up more victims of police brutality. But yeah, these are these are the stakes right

now. Yeah, no, I think also these strategies, you know, always repeat. It's like every single time protesting happens, the way that they try to quell it is always tactics that they've used before. the way that they try to quell it is always tactics that they've used before. And I think one of those things is like, that's great about the internet is if you go and protest, I just want to make that clear to everybody that like you absolutely should, if you can, but you should absolutely know going out what you should do and not do have the, you know, National Lawyers Guild number on you on you like all of the stuff that you absolutely need to know you can look up and it's just i think really really important because like a privileged fucking white woman i was still like an immigrant which again scared me

because you know they charged me they try to charge me with rioting because we asked for food. And rioting is a felony. And if that happened, I would have been super fucked. And like, again, privileged white woman still was really fucked up experience. And you just need to know what you're going in. And you need to have friends on the outside when you're protesting so that, you know, they know what the deal is. You have a plan. Just like, be careful when you do it so that they know what the deal is. You have a plan. Just be careful

when you do it. That's all. Yeah. Because they ain't playing fair out here. No. No, they're not. Alright, have you guys heard of the game Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon? Sick pivot! Sick pivot. Oh yeah. Have you guys heard about this? Have you seen this?

You guys heard about this? You seen this?? Six pivot. Have you seen this? You guys heard about this? You seen this? Oh, yeah. Wait. Scott, our guest last time when Sophia was on was like, the thing that is underrated about your podcast is the hurtling changes of pace. Oh, yeah. We got to hit them all.

The zeitgeist comes at you quick. It does. Yeah. We got to hit them all. The Zeitgeist comes at you quick. It does. Yeah. You know, does your news feed stop to coddle you and think about your feelings? Don't you get a mixture of Apple alerts that are like bummer news? And also it's like Kylie Jenner and Timothee Chalamet. You are getting way more of the Timothee Chalamet relationship updates than I am. I mean, I just go on the internet and I'm like,

wow, a hilarious joke about Bussy. And then underneath that, it's like we have created another monster Voltron of cops. I'm like, that's life! And then I scroll and I'm like... Voltron, is it good for your city? Yeah.

Okay, cool. Bless you. Still not cool. Bless you. Still not better. Thank you. Oh, yeah, your sexy, dark voice is gone. I know, my sexy voice. Miles, I had the deepest voice that I've ever had when you were gone. Oh, when you were sick?

Yeah. It was crazy. My phone gave me, like, crazy deep voice. Like Barry White style? Yes. I mean, not that cool. It was fucking mesmerizing. It still sounded like me, but much deeper. No Barry White style? Yes. I mean, not that cool. It was fucking mesmerizing. It still sounded like me,

but much deeper. No, it was pretty cool. Or like, what's that, what's the opposite of helium? That gas where like you can, it makes your vocal cords like super loose. That's kind of how I felt.

What's up, y'all? I sound like an ASAP Rocky. Everybody loved it, me especially, but everybody loved it. People were mesmerized. You could tell. ASAP Rocky. People were falling for him falling for him sulfur hexafluoride that's what it is bay victor like

justin everybody the whole crew was falling fucked up over it all right so there's a new study from six different nations. This is just like one of those studies where it's like, wow, you did everything so well to like just put this into a press release. And I'm not mad at it. You did. You did a good job. Fine. You've gotten my attention. the whole thing they're like the thing about six degrees of kevin bacon also happens in real life where there's like six degrees of separation and they kind of looked at the math of how humans form our friend groups and basically we are constantly evaluating it's It very much sounds like a scientist who has not spent a lot of time around other humans, like observing humans, because they're like, the human is

constantly evaluating the cost-benefit of keeping an old relationship alive or making a new friend. Maybe he did this study because he wanted a friend probably why do we do anything right and i probably read it because of that but the study like spends a lot of time basically explaining why people have friends they're just very confused about that i think

that's pretty sweet of that yeah and to write that article i know isn't it i kind of love it but the interesting detail is the Nash equilibrium, like the point at which people have no further incentive to go outward with their friend baking or inward with their friend pruning, usually lands at a place that averages out to six degrees of separation from everyone else on on the planet which is wild but that that's the i mean it makes sense like i assumed it was going to be something about like network dynamics

and like how you know over over time you're like sort of compounding the number of like just you know three degrees of separation away you've like compounded the number of people that everyone knows. But it's also about how like the sizes of those groups that each person is connected to. Well, different, you know, work out to an average of about an average of about six. Huh. Huh. How so? But that wouldn't have been true. Pre-internet. I think it has been true. That's the thing.

Like, I think it's because we've been doing it pre-internet. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So like, no, no, no. I just mean, oh, I just mean, do you really? I guess I was thinking like it's easy for me to think of being six degrees away from anyone on the planet like with the internet and like also just like oh you have a friend that lives in this country and blah blah blah blah right but i'm harder to track yeah yeah right right right so i didn't know the origin of the experiment or of the idea of six degrees it's actually milgram you know the guy who like

did the experiment yeah it's the famous shock experiment where people come into a lab and it was based on the trials of Nazi prison camp guards at the Hague and how they were like, we were just following orders. And so he did this experiment to show that people will continuously shock people whether or not. So basically, the people weren't actually being shocked. But a person in a white lab coat is like, keep administering the shocks. Basically, he wouldn't see the person. The person who was administering the shocks, quote unquote, would hear someone's sounds of pain. Yeah. But that person was acting but the person who

was shocking them didn't know they were acting right so and they kept what later turned out in addition to the result of like oh yeah people will straight up just follow orders because the guy i know lab coat was like keep shocking but the other thing that came out of it is a lot of ethics stuff for how you run studies because the people that were fake shocking once they found out it was fake they were like super fucking traumatized yeah and they're like great now i have to live my life knowing that essentially you used me to prove that i could be a nazi a nazi exactly i have to go lay down you know what i mean yeah but you're just following orders man you're just following orders, man. You're just following orders. Yeah, and there are other things about the design of that experiment

and how some people might have really known that they were acting and who knows. But the other big experiment he did that I was not as familiar with was they basically tried to connect two people in as few steps as possible just by sending out this brown paper package and being like hey we're trying to get this to a divinity student in boston

you are a farmer in iowa that we've randomly selected from the entire population of the u.s like go and what's that they found they were like oh I know this Episcopalian like in my town. The Episcopalian was like, I actually know somebody who I like met at an Episcopalian conference who's from Boston. in like a matter of six degrees. And they found that to be kind of consistently the case when they ran this experiment. And the thing that I hadn't fully appreciated is like they also asked people before this experiment, like, what would you think the results would be? And like that- How many steps would it take?

Yeah, how many steps? And that is like you know i've known the six degrees of separation i've known that phrase yeah i've known that that that is a will smith movie since i was you know yeah properly storing memory so i don't know what my guess would be but the guesses range from like a hundred to a thousand two people being like you'll never connect them. Like, it'll just like,

why would you ever be able to connect to random people? Like the world is so big and so massive. I would have guessed 12 for some reason. Really? Like 10 or 12. I think. What would you have guessed? I think I would have guessed like a hundred.

Yeah. If no one had said anything about six degrees of whatever, ever. Yeah. I would probably think it would a hundred feels like i could do it within a hundred yeah yeah yeah feels like a safe bet it is it does it is a little mind-blowing you're like we probably take less than 10 you're like really yeah it seems so far away single digits i think like totally fucks me up yeah exactly

fucks me up the way my voice fucked up everybody last week miles you better listen to that episode if you respect yourself listen man watch and i get all self-conscious and i come on tomorrow's episode i'm like yeah so what's up y'all i'm also my voice won't be able to record anymore because you're just blushing so hard the entire time. I'm like, he's talking to me with that voice. Stop putting yourself on camera because people can't handle it. Jax just can't. He can't be on Zoom.

That's right. It's hard. So now they can, so you can apply this now to all kinds of sort of like network mapping, right? If you kind of know this to be sort of, it averages out to around six, no matter what. Yeah. That helps like with all kinds of like, I guess, you know, how we look at pandemics or other network dynamic or network dynamic dependent phenomena.

Yeah. It's six infection cycles and the whole world has the fucking thing is like kind of the dark side of this finding is you know it spreads quick right and i i think this is true also like social contagion like the how quickly ideas spread you know because that that's the thing that spreads over over social media like faster than it ever has. And so I think we're less stable across wide geographic margins than we ever have been. We're more susceptible to ideas that come in and sweep through and change things.

And it's definitely a powerful study because they specifically say, when we did the math, we discovered an amazing result. This process always ends with social paths centered around the number six. Each individual acts independently without knowing the network as a whole. Yet this self-driven game shapes the structure of the entire network leading to the small world phenomenon and the recurring pattern of six degrees that's fucking crazy yeah that's yeah the small world it is funny that like when we went to a museum in like london we ran into somebody who her majesty didn't even know but came to find out they were at the same college at the same time oh it's wild randomly like helping a stranger up the steps with a baby stroller. And we had one too, and then started talking and then it just like, oh yeah, my husband went there.

And then it's like, what the fuck? That's crazy. Yeah. It wasn't even a thing where you were like wearing the same sweatshirt and like noticed each other. Yeah, no, no, not at all. Just random two groups of parents. College hat on.

Yeah. Waving a pendant yeah fuck does this guy think he is before run into the same people when i'm visiting a place like at different like during my vacation or whatever like at a lot of different places and not like tourist attractions you know what i'm saying has that happened to you ever that happened to me this weekend so weird the huntington park live there the huntington library whatever the fuck that thing is yeah it's not in gardens but no yeah it's an amazing huge garden and like we arrived with like three different groups of people like just in line at

the same time and like kept seeing that we were just like on the same we would like circulate going like all these weird different directions and like kept seeing those same people and it's a big ass park oh there's so many different ways to go it's like not or when i rented my place in paris i knew one person there and he was like oh what's your address and i gave it to him and he like started laughing and um he's my friend his place was half a block away oh wow really yeah i knew one person in all of paris and ended up renting an airbnb half a block away it's huge it's like 10, 12 blocks. It's huge. So big. Find out Paris.

You got the Eiffel Tower. You got a couple streets on the left side of the Eiffel Tower. You got that Triumph Park. Done. There's a river. We're done. You got the Champs Sports. Elieze. Got it all.

So it comes back. So cultured. Champs head, LA's. Got it all. See, so it comes back. So cultured. Ah, yeah. Champs head. Me too. Big fan of the champs. Yeah. Amazing.

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horny for a civil war for a long time and i feel like he senses that maybe this is his best shot at it and so he took a few minutes away from his busy schedule filming angry Twitter videos in a sadness shack in the woods to appear on the Adam Carolla podcast. Okay. You know, just two funny dudes cutting it up. Yeah. To see Carolla still, like, A, around, and somehow, like, B, worse than when he, like,

invented the man show. Right. It's just wild to see the fork in the road of the man show with Kimmel and Corolla that's just what I keep thinking it's like uh you know it's like one of them like turned or what or one was always there the whole time you know like it's yeah like this is what it turns into because also like you think a love line too because even dr drew is also you know he's he's on that he's on that sort of right path too but i'm getting a lot of videos of dr drew doing curls and talking to me being like hey guys drew like doing like curls like telling me about

like all the things i need to know about his fucking bodybuilding formula. All I keep thinking is how we listened to so much Loveline growing up and we were like, this is the shit right now. And all of it was just Dr. Drew telling women with high voices that they were molested. Right. And we were like, this is sick.

We were like, I'm going to listen to it again tomorrow night. What? We were so fucked up. We're so damaged. Oh, I mean, and I think it again tomorrow night. Why? We were so fucked up. We're so damaged. Oh, I mean, and I think it's to your point about how you like you have to write articles about proper digital stimulation of the genitals, you know, and like you get like the worst sex advice from Adam Carolla when you're 13. I was just like, I just remember, too, because like I had a radio that if the the speakers were on my mom would be like i thought i thought i told you to go to sleep so i had to like get i gotta had to get a headphone jack that

would go long enough that i could kind of be in my bed so if my mom checked i could like fucking throw the headphones off and it wouldn't look like i was listening to love line uh and i was just mainlining the most regressive shit ever and then coming away with being, I'm a man of the 21st century. Thank you. Yes. I'm like, I'm a feminist. Let's put on another episode of fucking Loveline. What the fuck? So he had Tucker Carlson on because that's where

he's at these days. And when asked about Trump's future, Carlson said that he was speeding towards assassination. Obviously, if you begin with criticism, speeding towards assassination, obviously. If you begin with criticism, then you go to protest, then you go to impeachment, then you go to indictments and none of them work. What's next? Graph it out, man. We're speeding toward assassination, obviously. That's a good Tucker Carlson to graph it out, especially. Great job. Yeah.

So we're in the bow tie, too. Yeah, I do. I did put on my bow tie and put my bangs down swoopy style. Swoopy style. He does have swoopy bangs. He sure does. I went to GW where they filmed Crossfire. And I protested during it and got kicked out.

Oh, really? They put up a banner against the war in Iraq and they were like yeah i get the fuck out forever yeah there's a lot of dudes from virginia that look exactly like tucker carlson like yeah they're walking around georgetown yeah yeah exactly and they all get the same perpetually 12 it's It's fucked up. It is wild how he still manages weird... He looks like the cover of Mad Magazine. What are we doing?

Alfred E. Newman, but like the fast version. Yeah. But he actually brought this up in his interview with Trump in August. He was like, so, were you afraid someone's gonna... Like, it's coming for you? And Trump was just like, yeah, yeah, you know, moving along. It sounds like he's manifesting. It does.

It sounds like Tucker is like manifesting Trump getting assassinated or just psyching himself up to do it because it is incredibly weird to be the only person talking about it. It's like if you go out on a date with a guy and he's like, don't worry'm not gonna murder you and you're like hold up what i didn't think that but why would you bring that up like that they're like no no i just want to make it clear i will not murder you but follow up question are you worried that you could get murdered like anytime soon just putting that out there not to the universe but just like i'm positing that question. Anyway, I want to order a drink. Let me order it for you. Actually, you can go to the bathroom. I'll order it.

Now that he's saying this, like everyone's like Dan Bongino picked it up. Alex Jones picked it up. Although Alex Jones has obviously been saying something similar for a while now. Back in June, Alex Jones claimed that Trump would soon be assassinated by the deep state establishment. Also, back in 2017, Jones was claiming that there was a plot to assassinate Trump. Information he obtained thanks to a friendly call from a Secret Service agent. So that's pretty heavily sourced information about like that's kind of their main thing, the Secret Services. Oh, oh yeah if you believe that i

think it was just trump the way he pretended to be his own like pr guy and all of these other people he was like let me really quickly become a secret hello i am agent uh seek seek row of the secret service uh rum ah yes right i'm a secret service agent okay uh secret service agent what's your Of the Secret Service. Uh, Rump. Ah, yes. That's right. I'm a Secret Service agent. Okay, Secret Service agent, what's your first name? I don't know. Yeah, one Homer Simpson on him. Yeah.

Don't know. I believe you have a package for me. But they actually hyped a fake assassination plot during the 2016 election which i only vaguely remembered but it was during a rally in reno and he was rushed off stage by secret service after someone shouted gun and a suspect was apprehended and then he took to the stage again and finished a speech proclaiming we will never be stopped which seems like he's like is kind of like his posture now right that he's right like his never surrender like coffee mugs with his mugshot of him surrendering or going like hotcakes i have to imagine and by the way of him to assume that he has the health to like survive well that's the thing his own body he's fucking 77 and like overweight and

eats like shit and now he's like his weight is yo-yoing because i think he's on ozempic like which is can't be healthy for him like this is like there's so many reasons literally doesn't believe in exercise because he thinks exercise muscles more it it uses them up you only have so many heartbeats save it so what i'm gonna speed up my heartbeat and get it to do too many beats and then run out yeah it ain't happening like what was that movie with was that jessica uh justin timberlake about like that one like weird sci-fi movie or like you had to keep buying time for your body to live and shit. He's probably on that sort of logic path.

Just In Time? Is that what it's called? I think that was also... What? I've never heard of this. Just In Time? Justin Timberlake? I think it's called In Time or Out of Time. Well, that's a missed opportunity for Just In Time.

They really should have done Just In Time. If he hasn't released that album yet. In Time. In Time. Well, that's a missed opportunity for Just In Time. They really should have done Just In Time. If he hasn't released that album yet. In Time. In Time. They definitely had it as Just In Time for a while and got cold feet at the end. Just In Time Burr Lake. Kind of a wonky title, but we're going for it. Just In Time colon Burr Lake.

Burr Lake. wonky title but we're going for it just in time colon burlake burlake but you get like i get why also you need the sort of you have to raise the specter of some some ghoulish act happening against your dear leader because what they need to do is activate people's sort of instinct to want to protect trump at every cost yeah so if this is more of a threat then that makes everything people a little bit more invested in being like we have to protect trump from every dimension existential threat that exists whether it's the legal system or some rogue bard who just wants to go off you know and do something terrible to him right also these people make a living off of sensationalism like Alex Jones and them. Like, you know, of course, they run with any piece of anything sensational. So like the Trump an event for this week's like insane you know show podcast whatever it is that that um the right-wing person's doing you know and it's also like all

such a soap opera that like eventually you run out of storylines right yeah it's like you're watching you know whatever days of our lives on it's like 100th season so you're like I guess now we have to do the assassination yeah yeah we're there now like sigh you know we've already done body doubles like nine times so I guess we could do the coma and he comes out a different person

and then we debate whether he's the same person that went into the coma then didn't that would be the third time this year that we did that plot but just saying I'm not saying it's a reason not to do it i'm just saying we've done it three times i think we're already doing it with like yeah mcconnell and stuff too or it's like you know who knows if that's the same guy from a few months ago who his batteries keep running out on stage it's like we already did all of the things yeah so like aliens are next folks they're next maybe but it's oh i got one is he pregnant should we do that next oh he's pregnant next yes and that's why he's going to come around

on reproductive rights because he himself is now pregnant and understands what is going on what's at stake okay we've never done anything like this it could be really cool and transgressive. I think we could get a daytime Emmy. Yeah. That's me being a terrible writer. That's a scab during the writer's strike. Just coming through, uh, suggesting whatever the RNC had an opening.

Yeah. Have we tried this? I mean, this is a pilot I was working on, but we may be able to adapt it for Trump. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe we can cut out some of this dialogue from this other script. Donald Trump Jr. back then suggested that the guy was hired by the DNC. And it turns out the guy was not an assassin.

He was holding up a sign that said Republicans against Trump because he was a Republican. And somebody shouted gun. super funny yeah the call was coming from inside the house they're like oh no what do we do it says republican we like that oh scream gun trump oh shit also short circuit right so that one even though there was absolutely no truth to it was just a republican holding up a sign that they somehow thought was a gun because those look the same trump's people kept claiming that he had survived an assassination attempt the following trump rally the guy introducing him flat out said uh there was an attempt of murder against Trump in Nevada. But then when someone actually tried to kill Trump the same year, nobody made a big deal about it,

even though the guy was an illegal immigrant. And the reason for that is because it was a 21 or a 20 year old white kid from England with mental health issues. And so it didn't fit his campaign narrative. So it was just, can we say, can we say he was in MS 13? If we, no, I don't think anyone's going to buy it. And also he just tried to grab the gun of a cop nearby too.

So wait a minute. What color was the cop? Maybe we can work with something here. Let's see for a second. It was the cop maybe we can work with something here let's see for a second the cop was in ms-13 working in cahoots with this illegal immigrant who was meant to bleach his skin to fit in see that's a plot line you know what i'm saying like that's how you write daytime television we won we won tv we've done well sophia such a pleasure having you as always on the podcast where can people find you follow you all that good stuff you should definitely listen to my podcast with miles about 90 day fiance called 420 day fiance it so fun. It's a lot of bits.

The bits are pretty... They're troubling. The amount of bits. There's too many. They're amazing. You will be on so many Inside Jokes, you will feel like you are so in high school, but in a cool group.

The cool group of the kids. I don't know what I'm saying. I'm like, why would I even say that? I take all of that back. It's just a fun podcast. And we're making fun of nerds. Yeah, I know. I'm like, what am I saying?

I read all of the Robert Jordan books twice. What am I saying right now? We're the nerds. Just the coolest right here. Yeah. Anyway, listen to that podcast. And also you can listen to my stand-up album father's day wherever you want and i'm at the sofia s-o-f-i-y-a on everything is there a work of media that you've been enjoying yes there is i love this tweet by

at dear lucy and it's a photo. She says, saw this yesterday. And it's a haunted picture of a child, which I think is delightful. And on it is a note that says she's back. Three exclamation points. Sold twice and returned twice. Are you brave enough? Three question marks. No.

I am not. And they're charging 20 bucks for it. Do we know where this is? Is it at like a second hand store? I think it's somewhere in England. So, yes.

I don't know. I'm obsessed with it. That's kind of my favorite thing I've ever seen amazing Miles where can people find you is there work of media you've been enjoying find me twitter instagram

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If you want to know how the week is going, I just took a pillowcase out of the dryer, put it over my head thinking it was a T-shirt to wear to bed, spent 15 seconds inside it searching for the neck hole, and then mumbled, what is this, pants? I've never identified more. I've never identified more. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist. On Instagram, we have a Facebook fan page

and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song besides just stray mandolin music that

you think people might enjoy? Oh, yeah. Actually, hold on. Let me pull up their bio. He'll be like, uh, have you heard of a little-known Italian band? Andrea Bocelli. The Focaccia Brothers? And then he just whips out this crazy mandolin solo. We're like, oh my God, no, we haven't.

The Focaccia Brothers rip. Okay. Il songo. Andrea Bocelli. La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la Andrea Bocelli. Italian. Italian, Italian, Italian. Is that the one that goes, time to say goodbye? Or is that an English song?

Is that Batilo? You're talking about Batilo? I think that is. Batilo? I think that is... Batilo. Anyway, that plays at the Bellagio Fountain. We really need a deep voice, Jack, for this one. Yeah. We're going to go out on this track.

It's called WANA. W-A-N-A by Noor. N-O-U-R. I don't know what language this is because, Jack, I don't know if you met. I know you were talking about it in our document about like language, like foreign language songs and how enjoyable songs are. I was talking about how like I memorize lyrics that I have completely wrong in my head and how like just the feeling of the voice. Like sometimes I prefer having like not knowing what is being said and i've been listening to a lot of spanish language music lately with that in mind yeah uh so yeah

this is nor she's actually from egypt and you know it's like a mix of like english and arabic lyrics uh but like the it's just i don't know man i'm just loving all music coming across out from all over the world because it's just so damn good. And we're probably only six degrees of separation, Noor, you and I, so I invite you to come on. But anyway, this is Noor with Juana. Really dope. Really dope track. All right.

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