The Daily Zeitgeist - Right Wing Debate Cope, They’re NOT Eating The Dogs?!? 09.12.24

Episode Date: September 12, 2024

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I was undecided heading in last night. Yeah, but you still are. There's still a lot of questions. When they interview the undecideds afterwards, and they're just like, mm-hmm, yeah, just saw a bunch of lies on both sides. I don't really know. Yeah.

I mean, part of it feels like if you can somehow credibly say you're undecided, you will simply get to be in the New York Times every weekend. Yeah, exactly. You are a media resource. You are like the greatest jewel the media could possibly stumble across.

You're like a scientific anomaly, essentially. Yeah. I was once on a jury for a wrongful death lawsuit possibly stumble across. You're like a scientific anomaly, essentially. I was once on a jury for a wrongful death lawsuit, and we just had this one person who was holding out for no reason. Other than,

I just don't know. I was going to say, it's basically Pauly Shore jury duty. The reason they're undecided is because they like what they get from being undecided. They like the attention. How else are they going to get it?

How else are they going to get allegedly the smartest people they deal with every day to be like, I really want to know what makes you tick? I think we should just rebrand the Daily Zeitgeist as like the last undecided podcast, like where we haven't figured it out.

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You know him from the Yo! Is This Racist podcast. It's Andrew T! AKA, I did one this time. Every time the Zyte guy's calling, I put down my iPhone and say, I need to find a song that people know so I can make it, a.k.a. Since Solo.

Hey, that was nice. Well done. Finally had the time to come up with something. Oh, that was Andrew T. Ridge. I mean, barely, yeah. I was scrambling. That was great. Andrew, how are you doing?

I'm alive. I'm only working off of secondary takes. So I did not watch the debate. I know. So we'll see. This is the last second scratch. We'll see what a brain, you know, yeah. I'm the first derivative of knowledge here.

I have no idea, but we'll see. We've got all kinds. You are going off of secondhand takes that have been digested and then baby-birded back into your mouth. I am an undecided voter who watched the debate very closely. And, you know, I thought both sides had interesting things to say. But Andrew, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a wildly talented Ethio-American vocalist, songwriter, and composer whose album was named among the best albums of the year by Bandcamp and the Sunday Times. She's performed on stages all over the world and is the host of the podcast Movement with McLeet, which just dropped season two.

So go check it out. Please welcome back to the show the brilliantly talented McLeet Hedero! Hey, y'all. Good to be with you. Good to have you back. Here I am. Yeah. There it is. Always gotta sing an intro. i didn't have an aka but

it's wild to have a real singer i know you've like sung twice like when you entered the chat you were like hey and i was like god oh, man. Soup! I'm a, yeah. Anyways. The two things that we've discovered are, we've been told by alpha god Jesse Waters, are unacceptable to somebody who is masculine, is eating soup and consuming anything through a straw. Just in case you guys are wondering why. The context for my AK. Solids only.

No waters for water. Yeah. It has to be in the form of a brick. Like, salt lick is the only thing that one can consume. You have to eat like a horse or have a bag of oats strapped to the front of your face. Would you also drink through a straw?

What's that? Would you also drink through a straw? What's that? Would you also drink the bag of oats through a straw? Yeah. Or, yeah, I guess horses eat straw, which is unacceptable because straw is not manly. So, yeah. This is the right-wing news we come here for. I love this.

That's right. And we just have to, like, you know, get down to the fine, you know, dissect what is manly. Like, is eating straw unmanly? Or is it kind of tough? This is why we need a white man around. I would never know this. That's what I'm here for, you guys.

I do, of course, take you. Jesse Waters is the high priest of white man-ness. But I do have to give credit where due. All right, McLeet, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about, and we are still talking about that debate. We're going to dig into the real story of what's happening in Springfield, Ohio. going to dig into the real story of what's happening in Springfield, Ohio. Of course,

we heard a version of events from former President Donald Trump. We'll find out both sides. Anything could happen. It's I mean, we're going to look into it. You know, we've got to take this man at his word. And so we're going to we're going to dig in to the journalism around this story. And so we're going to dig in to the journalism around this story. And, of course, we have to look at Kamala Harris's earrings. The night of the debate. They looked awfully familiar to those of us who still click on those banner ads that say, one thing doctors don't want you to know. doctors don't want you to know if you if you pay attention to those side sidebar and banner ads then you probably recognize those earrings uh or maybe not because this is complete bullshit story uh we might even get into halloween costume ideas should we talk about halloween costume ideas

that's the only news that matters yeah exactly all of that plenty Plenty more. But first, McLeet, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Yeah, left turns are unmanly. We're like UPS trucks up here. We only do right. We only take right turns. Three right turns. Yeah, only right turns. Okay. Non sequiturs, cool. Right turns or left? Yes.

I was looking for an audio program called the Isotope Spectron. The Isotope Spectron? That just sounds smart as hell. What is that? So I used to play this thing called a star guitar. I got these star sounds from my friend at NASA, and I would hybridize them with the sound of my guitar live on stage. But it required this program that they discontinued in 2011.

And every once in a while like every six months i look up has it come back because i can't actually find any program that will let me play a star guitar anymore so that that was my yesterday so it takes the noise from stars because that is like an underrated thing that scientists do they'll like point a microphone of sorts at space and be like this is what jupiter sounds like and it just sounds it sounds like a fucking horror movie up there it's just like oh my god jupiter is being tortured somebody yeah yeah yeah you know yeah yeah there's so it's sonic light curves, sonifications of stars. And there's one in particular that has just like the name of the star is just a lot of letters and numbers.

Like there's no actual name, but the pulse is like this incredible rhythm. And so I would, and you could choose, this program let you choose. Like I only want the highs from the star and I'll take the mids and the lows from the guitar. And you could totally like work with it. it's gone it's gone and every once in a while i i look forward to come back because it was really fun to play the star guitar uh it's iso to iso top yeah spectrum yeah sweet water it's telling us it's out of stock that's out of stock that sucks but i never but yeah i'm hanging on for a resurgence one day that's cool that's so so but you have like messed with it and like played music with the sound of stars i used to tour with it i used to play it on tour and now

i can't anymore so anyway that's my is music like that like are there like the way that computers like just suddenly like any software from like 2011 like i wouldn't be able to run on a modern no you can't you can't run it no it would it feels like it will almost be like the best bet is finding a working like 2011 computer right do you think that i haven't tried that? Yeah. I have 100%. No, no. I have 100% tried that. He thinks you didn't try that. No. I totally tried.

I have tried it all. I've tried it all because it was so cool. It was so special. But anyway, that was my yesterday searching on the isotope spectrum and then thinking, oh, hey, I think I'll talk about this on TDZ tomorrow. There you go. Yeah.

And if anybody has the inside lane on an isotope spectrum, you know, hit McLeod up. I don't know. Maybe we have some music. I know we have musicians in our audience. audience so yeah i just that makes me wonder if all those people who like paid a bunch of money to be like i got the mixing board the thriller was made on like are they just they pay the money and they're like oh there's no way to use this or because that's not i think analog is different yeah yeah it's that like weird mid-digitalcence. It's like, what do you do with all your jazz drives? Like.

Yup. Exactly. That is exactly. Yes. Yeah. You're like, right. Anything old,

you just plug it in as long as there's still electricity or maybe even not. Yeah. Oh man. You can solder it to fix it, but you can't solder the isotope spectron. Yeah. That's cool. i don't do much soldering myself but i'm working on it jesse i'm working on it jesse waters uh what is something

you think is underrated i think opening acts are underrated like if you go to a show and you're like oh i've got i'm going to dinner with my friends and I'm going to show up right when the headliner starts. And I think people just think of it as kind of a filler, you know? But if you look at opening acts, even if you looked at a venue's list of opening acts, you'd start to get a sense of a local music scene. And it's a way, like somebody put a lot of thought and heart into what you might like as an audience member and it's like uh the it's like a way to get a pulse on a local arts and music scene so i think opening acts are underrated and you should show up when the show actually starts and check out that band that's first and you like might fall totally in love

with some new music yeah there's like legendary stories in my family my older sister went and saw a band and what the white stripes opened for them like in this like tiny like venue and she got to see the white stripes before like they were a thing and that's what i'm talking about my dad went to i forget what the main band was but he saw uh billy joel was the opening act and he was like and he had that place rocking man like he still like he loves to tell that story but yeah like there's it's it's worth it to like try it out And yeah, that's not something that I actually realized. I guess I dumbly assumed that they always traveled together. Like the opening act would be on tour with them. But it's actually, they'll just be like,

this is a cool LA band that we kind of fuck with. They'll open for us while we're in LA. And then, you know, same with St. Louis. Totally. And sometimes you get people, same with St. Louis. Totally. And sometimes you get people like, there'll be a West Coast opening act or you'll go like, sometimes it's paired, but most of the time it's either local or regional.

And it's like, it's always a good opportunity. So yeah, underrated, opening bands. I know this is my most like, these kids today type opinion, but it's like, if you guys like live performance so much, see the whole thing. What else are you paying for? Right. What else are you paying $800 for?

Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely worth it. And it's like the energy is much more laid back during the opening. And sometimes you see like something that's sort of embarrassing but some people who aren't great but usually not though yeah usually they're pretty good so rare yeah that was the most realistic part of the movie trap was when the opening band was playing to like 25 people in a like you-style concert.

So you saw Trap? Oh, yeah. I saw Trap. Good. I really enjoyed it while I think I have some notes. I just had some thoughts. What, McLeet, is something that you think is overrated? Matching socks. Nobody sees them. Yes yes you don't have to match your socks it's all good just pick any sock from the

sock drawer and go on with your day i like i never match i never match my socks and how different are we talking like different colors just different different genres of socks. Like do you have one dress sock, one sweat sock? Sure. Yeah. But what you don't match is like, or what you, like even if the colors and styles don't match, the lengths have to match. So it'll annoy me if it's like one really short sock and one longer sock.

So I have to match the lengths, but that's it. There's still something. There's still something. You can't, not you're not full chaos well yeah i was thinking of like an ankle sock and like a a big dress sock that might be that might be tough i did that the other day and i gotta tell you it made me so uncomfortable you You did that? To have it unmatched. And genuinely, because such a high percentage of my socks are just Costco socks. So it was medium gray and light gray. And I was like, everyone can tell.

Everybody knows. Everyone knows about the secret shame happening under my shoe right now. It's so stupid. I understand I'm deeply stupid and you are correct. But wow, I really, I could barely handle it the whole time. Just white knuckling it through my day. shoe it's so stupid i i understand i'm deeply stupid and you are correct but wow it really i could barely handle it the whole time just white knuckling it through my day like no one's looking at my ankles right so is your sock drawer like are at the laundry stage are you not even trying to match is it just like a salad of different individual socks it's it's? It's a salad.

It's a soup. Potpourri. It's all of the above. Yeah, no, no, there's nothing. Nothing's matched. There's no effort goes into matching any sock. That sounds liberating. Yeah.

This really will shave. This is a good life hack. This will shave so much time to save your grind. Yeah. I have socks that like half of my children's sock drawer is just like unmatched socks that I've like kind of given up on. Those are so little though. Children's socks are so small and I'm pretty sure they get sucked into. And I think I've said this before on the show.

And Miles was like, what are you talking about? You sound crazy, man. This idea that socks get like sucked into like an intake in the washing machine. But then I've had people like kind of back me up that that can happen. That like there's especially small children's socks will just get inhaled by laundry machines.

There was this episode of The Family Guy that I saw probably like, I don't know, 20 years ago. Where the back of the laundry machine is Narnia. With like a half fawn, half human creature taking single socks into the abyss and so anyway with the children's socks and the really little ones i completely agree like there's just there's no way like i i buy socks like every other week because where did they all go so i don't match them for myself but i do match them for my child yeah well you're i i'm the opposite because i'm a narcissist and i don't care what they look like my children are very sensitive about their socks they're like what uh they don't first of all they don't like to wear them if they're even like if they've been

wearing them for like an hour and then come back in the house they want them off immediately because they're like they're dirty now now. Get them off of me. So the SOC regimen has to be disciplined in my household with these little fuckers. No. How often have I said that under my belt? All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll keep talking about the debate on Tuesday night. Was that already Tuesday? All right. We'll be right back. producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

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where they're singing about Springfield. And then the song's like, in Springfield, and then it cuts to him saying, they're eating our dogs, they're eating our cats, in Springfield. It's the source of a lot of great content, but does it hold up under journalistic scrutiny?

What do you guys think? What's your guess? He did see it on TV. God. Which he didn't also. i just wish instead of being like we talked to the like this official because like obviously the people who are willing to believe him are not like the type of people who are going to believe a county official if he had just been like where did you what tv what did you see it yeah yeah oh you you mean facebook when you say tv you mean facebook and you mean the guy who said my neighbor's daughter's friend is that what you mean i i will just say this and i think this is maybe my only or most enduring legacy of the daily zeitgeist from the top woods this is a perfect example of the

gish gallop which is he says one insane lie and i'm just you know loosely looking at the amount of research to come and it is like you know easily 20x the number of words to unravel his lie if not more like maybe like 50x like it's just it takes so much longer to debunk something insane and blatantly a lie than just like him saying it yes this is an early andrew t like early years of the daily zeitgeist andrew explained that there is a technique in debate like the the official debate. Or I don't even know, yeah. How official.

But yeah, yeah. Just like a thing that creationists... I heard it pioneered by Dwayne Gish, just serial creationist liar. Yeah. And he just says so many lies that you can't debunk them in a matter of time. Yeah.

Even if your brain wasn't overloaded just being like, what? Yeah. It would still take you so long to just... Yeah. in a minor time yeah like even if your brain wasn't like overloaded just being like what you know like it would still take you so long to just yeah debunk the madness yeah so anyways we're about to do that we're about to take take the time to debunk it yeah because it does tie into just the overall incorrect assumptions underlying the rights, fear of immigration. And I feel like also the mainstream media, like the mainstream media just like allows them to have these assumptions, like that there are too many people immigrating to the United States and that that's a problem. They start from that point. And studies

have shown that immigrants actually boost the economy by sparking innovation and driving up wages. There is actually, according to a lot of economic theorists, a big shortage of immigration in the United States. The United States isn't high. On a per capita level in the United States. Like the United States isn't high, like on a per capita level, the United States does not have a lot of immigration. And when you look at decades and decades of research, immigration is the thing that fuels the U.S. like in all the ways that the right wing likes to brag about, you know, it makes the economy go. And actually, they are far less likely to commit crime. And like, all these things that they claim to care about

are actually drastically helped by immigration. And there's, yeah, would be helped with more immigration. But anyways... not to not to give republicans strategies but like using the sample size of my family they are exactly primed to be republicans except for the racism right like literally if you just weren't racist you would have these fuckers as a voting block like please stop being racist and we will vote for you it's so weird sorry can't do it not gonna happen but none of this is based on logic or facts it's all about like it's all about you know appealing to us to be to be able to scapegoat a population for the problems that they're not going to solve. Right. So, you know, we we have so much evidence that like Europe, for example, is facing a precipitous population decline.

And the only reason the United States is not going to go through that is because of immigration. And that has all kinds of other impacts. But we do need immigration. So, you know, this is not about that. So it is true that as many as 20,000 Haitian immigrants have moved to Springfield, a town of around 60,000. And this was by design. The population of Springfield had shrunk over the past several decades as businesses bailed on the industry in Springfield, which I believe was car manufacturing in the 1960s. In 1960, the population was 80,000. So the influx of Haitian immigrants restored the population to what it was over 60 years ago. And by the way, that quote that I was reading earlier, immigrants boost the economy by sparking innovation and driving up wages and all that stuff. If you're wondering what left wing rag pointed that out,

that's from the George W. Bush Institute. So yeah, but in 2014, city officials enacted a plan to woo businesses back to Springfield. It worked, but they didn't have enough workers to fill all the new jobs. And so they, you know, Haitian immigrants started moving to Springfield. They were in the country legally. They moved to the town in order to fill the gaping labor shortage. There's about 8,000 new jobs were created by 2020, and they have only increased since then, but there just weren't enough workers to fill them. And then a bunch of Haitian immigrants moved to town, and it has worked out incredibly well. that happened, an isolated car accident where a Haitian immigrant with a foreign license, not valid in Ohio, rammed into a school bus, killing an 11-year-old boy. And that is the thing that, you know, sparked this resident, like, Springfield backlash, where residents basically

use the event as a springboard for, you know, racist vitriol and false allegations. And, you know, people like one quote from the time at a chamber meeting was, how do you know we aren't getting criminals, rapists? And, of course, like that echoes Trump perfectly, you know. I'm trying to find it but also the the kids parents have come out and said like stop using this as like yeah against haitians so stop using this this incident this tragedy yes the father of the son i think was at a press conference being like donald trump and jd. Pence should shut the fuck up and not

say my son's name anymore. Not in his name. Yeah, not in his name. Exactly. So yeah, in the wake of the accident, Haitians were accused by some residents without evidence of drug trafficking, retail theft, and disease. People were saying Haitians are occupying our land. People were saying Haitians are occupying our land. And then the pet thing happened because of a single Facebook post citing a story about, and this is not an exaggeration, this is a story about the Haitian neighbor's home being carved up to be eaten. But nobody is completely unsourced other than the user's neighbor's daughter's friend. I mean, there's such boomer credulity here. It's so embarrassing i know it is so embarrassing and it's he's like trump is kind of like a cartoon liar you know he's just like a guy who yeah he seems like a liar and some people don't seem to mind that but i i am just like wondering him falling for that makes him look inept you know yeah and like just yes so but in a way that's like that's this is this is exactly

who his like base loves like that's who they are they are falling for it so yeah what's the it's i just will say like you know as a as an asian person who also you know is from a community that's been accused of eating pets sure like the the other critical thinking thing that's so bizarre is like do you know how many stray dogs and cats are there like even accepting the unbelievably racist premise like why would you why would like how stupid do you think these people are that they would take a pet they would go into somebody's yard. Yeah. Like, it's just like, like even giving them all of the grace possible. The last step of like, well,

why would you bother with a pet is like kind of such an insane straw to me. I'm like, why? Yeah. Yeah. No, it's stupid. It's completely so many other ways to get dogs and cats.

Yeah. Oh, trust me. Yeah. I, uh, no, sorry.

Look, okay. I am part of a now maligned group in that I'm Irish and so is RFK Jr. And so, yes, I'm part of a group that is being accused of eating dogs and cats. Welcome to the full chat. And I guess with better with better evidence than this. This particular instance. That is why you people do as far as I can tell. There is a picture of one of our most famous people with like standing over a dog, like pretending to be about to eat it. Also standing over a bear pretending to be about to eat it. standing over a bear pretending to be about to eat it so kind of kind of interesting that they've chosen this this rumor to fixate on that i feel like they might be a little bit like the fact that it was jd vance you know who started this and he like there has to be some sort of sibling rivalry like insecurity with jd vance and rfk jr right because like oh my

god when rfk jr like brought up the possibility of joining the trump campaign everyone was like oh my god that would have been such a better pick and jd vance was like hey so i don't know how it worked out that J.D. Vance then was like, I hear they're eating dogs and cats like some other guy that you might have heard of. But it's interesting. It's interesting. Nobody really knows what's going on with J.D. Vance at this point. I feel like he's got to be in a weird place right now. I mean, his eyeliner guy's got to have some you know that that's where you really get the tea when you're like really putting on jd's

face you're like yeah this is what i really think oh man yeah just the like untold documentary where about like jd vance's eyeliner guy that we're going to get is going to be so good. But yeah, I mean, one of the stories that's also rising up in Springfield is that they're taking the housing in the town. suck and because a bunch of people were coming to town who were willing to pay higher rent because they were filling jobs that needed to be filled. So yeah, according to the director of Springfield's Housing Authority, the new homeless in Springfield are people who can't afford to pay $2,000 or $3,000 a month in rent, which is not the version that you're being told about in right-wing chat groups, which I spend a lot of time in because I am undecided. So, but yeah. So just a story about the values of immigration, you know, like immigration working to help prop up and improve the economy of a fading town. And that is obviously not how the right has chosen to see it.

I was reading this newsletter by W. Kamau Bell, who's the amazing comedian, and he does these interviews with the ACLU. And some folks from the ACLU Immigrant Rights Project or division were talking about there was a statistic that they threw out that really stuck in my mind. They were saying that the right spends around 30 million dollars a year in anti-immigrant like to to prop up and propagate anti-immigrant narratives. To prop up and propagate anti-immigrant narratives and the pro-immigrant narratives, you get about $700,000 a year being spent intentionally in that way. And so there's just a massive, massive, massive campaign going on to exploit this issue. And I feel like if like with the situation of the school bus and the cats and dogs, it's like any little, any little story that can be manipulated will kind of flow into these, this like structure, these structures that have been created to propagate these narratives and so we just have a lot of work to do on the side of you know telling pro-immigrant stories which are actually just human stories of people being people but there's a deeper problem going on if the if these little stories can like take hold in a town then it wasn't okay even before the stories came up right like it's it's like we have so we have

so much work to do yeah i do feel like it's also a failure of the mainstream media and they really just take the talking point that like immigration is a problem a problem absolutely as like the starting point of the conversation around immigration rather than, and I'd say like also a problem with the mainstream democratic party that like, this feels like a thing that you could take and be like, actually, we're not even going to engage you on this idea of immigration being a problem. We're going to say it's actually one of our greatest strengths.

And we're going to say that like here's how to like just account for it and like expect it and make sure the infrastructure is in place so yeah there so there is enough housing when there's an influx of people coming to fill jobs that need to be filled yeah but every every like complaint from right wing people about like like this stuff always boils down to too much conservative shit is happening like yeah if there was rent control right right yeah right right it's god it's such an unbelievable bummer yeah the reason that springfield was such a hotbed for it, like the way they were able to like pitch themselves to these companies was that they said they touted the low cost of living combined with its location on two interstate highways between Columbus and Dayton. from the Midwest.

It's the Midwest. That Midwest. That's how we think. That is how. So I grew up in Dayton for like five years and we were always talking about the crime rate like being really high because of like, because we're on these like two major interstate highways. Like people in the Midwest talk about highways

the way like a wildlife expert talks about a river. You know, they're just like, and on the banks of the grand 304 freeway an oasis burst to life of shopping malls and drug dealing it's like what our version the midwest version of like a port is is the highway exit yeah all the benefits and the you know alleged like alleged, like, detriments are, you know, oh, just because too much stuff's coming in and out. Yeah.

Godless immigrants are teaching whatever. Yeah. Okay, I guess. It was actually always that it was coming down from Detroit. Yeah, dog. We were like, yeah, we're like the murder capital per capita in the u.s i think that was like true for a year and people who lived in dayton were really proud of that fact yeah but they would also always be like yeah it's just you know we're right on those two highways coming down from detroit so i just

need one like high school level statistics class to be taught like Like, get the fuck out of here. Like, oh, your tiny town has a statistically significant? Sure, dudes. That's right. Get the hell out of here. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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everybody on the left is like complete disaster for Trump. Everybody on the left is like complete disaster for Trump. It was anything from like the Trump equivalent of Biden's debate performance the sometimes being openly acknowledged by both sides disastrous for Trump and sometimes being implicitly acknowledged by the right who are claiming that the moderators, that he's out there playing three-on-one. Like, they're trying to kill him by, like, fact-checking the things he's saying. And then there's also the conspiracy theory that Kamala Harris's jewelry was telling her the right answers the whole time. Oh, my God. Which I feel like would be so confusing like would be such a would be such a difficult thing to do to have somebody in your ear telling you what to say as

you're yeah it's a difficult skill to have the the whatever the fuck it's called that you're earwig in or yeah get fed live what's that famous play that's about that? Oh, I don't know. It's like somebody's name is the... Spy movies definitely... Superduservictors saying spy movies make it look easy. But there was... I'll find it by the end of this story. But anyways, people think

that no way someone would be that articulate, good at debating. And it must have been the result of earphones embedded in her earrings. They're like, girl, earrings, that's weird. She must be cheating, which provided her with stealth coaching during the debate, because the earrings she was wearing clearly resembled the Nova H1 audio earrings, which were sold on Kickstarter last year and sold as supposedly the first and only wireless earphones embedded in a pair of pearl earrings.

Oh my God. Wow. If you, if you look at the news story with the headline, I use these new smart earrings to listen to music. They totally surprised me. And you will be like, oh yeah, these are the same fake news stories

that you see on the side of, like when you're at any sort of news site that's like a local news site that has just been like we give up on you know any sort of quality control we're just uh we'll take any ad that you want to give us dentists don't want you to know this one secret you'll never have to brush your teeth again my five-year-old definitely wants to hear that secret. Yeah. Oh, my God. Which celebrity was hideous? Right. Yeah.

You'll never guess. You'll never. When you see what she looks like today, your jaw will drop. And then, like, a picture of Sarah Jessica Parker or, like, somebody who I know what they look like. MacLean, why do children hate brushing their teeth so much? So much. It's like they feel tortured by it it's like not don't you like the feeling of having a clean mouth guess not no they hate it

they fucking hate that feeling my five or my six-year-old this morning was like demanding to be paid for brushing his teeth i was like well what are you talking he's's like, I mean, you ask me every day to do this. He needs to be clicking some banner ads. Yeah, exactly. It's called Bitcoin mining. You want to earn your keep around here? Stop going to school and get busy in the basement. Oh, my God.

You got to gamify it. It's easy. It's easy. Just gamify it. You make it fun for the little fuckers. It's easy. It's easy. You just gamify it. You make it fun for the little fuckers. It's great. Oh, my God. Yeah.

So the theory of the case here is that this the vice president of the United States, somebody who presumably has a campaign that has hundreds of millions of dollars, has access to NASA and Pentagon technology, went on Kickstarter to buy a pair of Nova H1 audio earrings because I guess they were both pearl earrings is the thing that Laura Loomer was pointing out. Not a Nazi, Laura Loomer. Yeah, total Nazi. that laura loomer was pointing out no nazi laura yeah total nazi showed a picture of kamala harris's earring next to the i used these new smart earrings uh like spam ad yeah so i don't know what do we think guys should we take away any credit we uh had been giving kamala harris for her performance because she cheats.

Here's the thing. Here's the thing about the performance of the debate. Like, there was all the things she said, and then there were the looks on her face. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Like, there was this one point, especially, where she gave this, like, oh, poor Donald kind of look. And he hates that like it's it's they're these

you know the it's almost a different form of a zinger yeah when it's like oh poor donald she was so yeah that was that was fun yeah and it can't what like that's why would you think you would need coaching for that and this like do the poor donald face do the upper donald face tech wearable right i mean i will say also this is like a version of the like eating pets thing which is like how stupid do you think kamala harris is like why would she like do this in this way even if you ex you know accept your racist ass premise like right like you can't she could easily have a invisible earpiece like or whatever like any number of better ways right it's yeah yeah yeah exactly why get a kickstarter yeah piece of wearable tech that, by the way, some people looked into it and nobody has ever gotten what,

like the people who invested in the Kickstarter never got the Kickstarter hearings, despite what the banner ad said to you. Yeah, that's why. She cornered the market. Isn't it also like this thing that like somebody's Facebook message that of their friend friends neighbor's daughter

can start an entire series of like multiple like yeah can get the former president to say something can start like all these other news stories and this person like posting something on facebook or whatever platform truth social they were using suddenly has us talking about it. Like, we're talking about it. She did it. She got it out there in this way. And so it's also like how these little, you know, pieces of information can be considered

some kind of a, you know, thing to investigate. Because it's our pathetic media allow like some people saying to be a fact so then it's like this is real like this pipeline has been so abused of like a twitter nazi says a thing that gets repeated by breitbart which then is like the pipeline to fox news yeah which is then news all of a sudden it's like fox news is like money laundering for racist lies right it's just like because i'm gonna use that quote yeah money laundering for racist lies that was that was a good because we've seen accounts of how they like look for stories and it really is that they just like go through blogs racist blogs

that they're probably already posting on we saw like that tucker carlson's like main writer for the entire rise of his career was like outed as just being this like horrible racist like shit poster on like a law school forum yeah obviously yeah like where else would you get them If I could steal three minutes of podcast time to awkwardly pivot into a question for McLeet, loosely based off of, well, only because we learned during the break that she is up in San Francisco. theory that the recent spate of tech wearable failures is down to income inequality on the streets of San Francisco, making it such that there's no more like teens to tell you you look like a nerd. Is that is there any? Is there any truth to that? Well, wait a minute. Okay, first, like, I'm just gonna say, like like what do you mean by tech wearables like your apple vision pro yes exactly yeah yeah because those are all crashing and burning and i

just had been beating this pet theory to death that i was like i i was like basically that like loitering could have saved the tech industry but the tech bros are too stupid to realize it um i think that there are always teenagers ready to tell you that you look like a fucking tweet that you look like like yeah that has not changed but i will say that you know san francisco has the lowest population of kids under 18 or kids the people under 18 than any major metropolitan city in the united states and it's even increased since the pandemic in fact next week they're gonna announce this whole slate of like which schools are getting closed and merged because there are so many less students than there were so you are in fact correct that despite the fact that there are still teenagers

ready to tell you that you look like a dweeb, there are less of them. There's not enough. But can I link that to the fall of tech wearables? I don't know if I can make that link. But maybe if you make a blog post about it, it will become news. I'm here to make that irresponsible, politically motivated claim. But I was just like, God, this has just been a theory. It's in my brain forever.

My neighbor's kid actually goes to Berkeley and his roommate's sister actually said that this is the case. So I think we're pretty. Hell yeah. I can back you on this one. hell yeah hell yeah i come back on this one it's also i think a big trend with tech companies has been like that they create their own campus where you know their own like little universes where it's like you never have to leave we have chefs we have all these things and like i think that that might be the equivalent of like when a famous person creates like a a home with a name that like they never leave like neverland or graceland or you know like a and like that's

always a bad sign like they always become insulated from reality and start like going in weird directions. And, you know, I feel like the tech world has that broadly in San Francisco. And then like, yeah, at a smaller scale, like on Google's campus where like, it's true. Yeah. Every cyber drug is epic. Okay. I did perform. I performed at Google once. This is a long time ago.

I did perform. I performed at Google once. This is a long time ago. And I will say that, you know, it was like my biggest. Well, actually, I have two big memories of that. The first one was the food of like, it is our sushi hour. May I offer you some sushi? Yeah.

Why, yes, you may offer me some. It is our cookie hour and all that. So there was that. The food was like, whoa. And the other thing was that the sound system totally failed uh-huh and and i was the technology part yes the technology failed and i was so there for it i was like i i'm living this irony i'm soaking it up and then we had a bunch of acoustic instruments so we went from the stage to the grass and we made a circle around us and did the rest of the performance acoustic. And it was 10 times better than it would have been if the, but anyway, but the other thing was like it, it, they, all of this stuff is only meant to keep those people working, you know, so they don't have to leave. So it is exactly that. That's the same as the, you know, the buses that that so you're from your doorstep to your doorstep, not interacting with any community around you. You are like in the Google world from the minute that you, you know, leave your house. Yeah. So you're totally right. inside a giant roving google like pep rally yeah yeah all right i'll keep working on my thesis but i it's politically motivated and highly biased so i don't know what's gonna happen with it

i mean but it seems true right feels correct the fact that it's like a historic like a children of men for school-aged children like where there's just like not no there's no school-age children it's it's weird it's really weird that's that is so wild yeah that's so interesting did they like bust them off once they started making fun of their shitty google glasses were they like we gotta get these kids out of here amazing well mcleet what a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist uh where can people find you follow you hear you all that good stuff you can find me follow me at mcleetmusic.com that's also my all my handles are the same it's m-e-k-l-i-t music.com amazing yeah and is there a work of media that you've been enjoying okay i'm gonna be

super selfish here yeah just a moment and i'm gonna call out the latest episode that we just released of the podcast movement with my cleat because it features this woman who is a legend and who everybody should know her name is june millington she was the co-creator and lead guitarist of the band Fanny which was the first all-women band to get a major label record deal the first all-women band to be on the Billboard Top 40 she herself is Filipina American and is like uh she's an absolute legend of American music and she's spent decades supporting women songwriters, performers, founded a music school with Angela Davis. She's a genius. And it's just been mind-boggling to me how not enough people know about her. So the latest episode of our podcast features June

Millington. We'll allow it. We will allow that selfish plug because it sounds awesome andrew where can people find you and is there a work of media that you've been enjoying oh man andrew t my podcast is joseph racist we have we've been doing premium podcasts on suboptimalpods.com and not that not this is the the self plug is i've been doing this this podcast, like a bonus podcast with enemy of my show, friend of this show, presumably, Jessica Gao, where she and I are... She basically was like, poker's all chance. So we're doing a poker versus scratch-off tickets,

who can win more money challenge on the Gallenblur. Spoiler alert, I'm curb-stopping her. So you are good at poker. I'm curb-stopping her. So you are good at poker. I'm playing 10-cent poker. I'm not good at poker. I'm better than the people who play 10-cent poker. You're better than Chance at poker. Yes, I'm better than Chance.

Scratchers are minus easy. I'm actually better than Chance at Scratchers. Well, you got a system. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Well, you got a system. Yeah, I got a system.

I got my lottery. By the way, for anybody who thinks like we're just making that up, you can go and read for days about various lotto and scratch ticket buying systems and, know the math behind it there are exploits but those loopholes tend to get closed i will say yeah and do they win like do these no you still don't there you go i mean the i to me every time don't be every every time i go because i have weird like weirdly stupid cousins who are literal like you know engineers a literal rocket scientist in my family who when they're in vegas are like i got a system and i'm like the counterpoint to your system is look how nice the bellagio is like if it was possible to take money out of this ecosystem by just some bozos method yeah this fountain wouldn't exist

why are the rooms here so cheap why are the flights here so cheap right exactly so yeah so much luxury so little being officially paid for it in the normal way that one would pay for it you don't you don't have a system i feel all joking is kind of a system right that's true it's just like annoying to do some people don't do it i i so actually this isn't the thing but i have been shoot i can find it there's a couple car i'm not gonna find it sorry there's a couple card counters on youtube because actually tech wearables have gotten small enough that they're able to surreptitiously record their blackjack hands and do an overlay. And AI is doing the card counting?

No, they're not cheating. That's next? They're just like, yeah, it is. And it's card counting, I will just say, is trivially easy. The hard part is not getting caught and keeping the bit up while you're doing it. I guess I won't elaborate. You can YouTube it. The piece of media I've been enjoying is there's this anime on Netflix called Delicious in Dungeon that is about slaying monsters in a dungeon and then cooking and eating them.

And there's nothing has ever been more up my alley than that. Wow. I feel that I know you better now. It goes from a sword and sorcery thing into a cooking show seamlessly. And it's so insane. And I love it. That's me. Okay.

To just to say media, that's was not my shameless plug. I was watching, I've been watching the show extraordinary on Hulu and it is the funniest, funniest show that I've seen in a long, long time. And I had a super hard Augustust and it was like the like the light of my day just like keeping me laughing it's you know irish i find irish people very funny

really great sense of humor and it's like um starring and written by um this irish comedian whose name i can't remember but it's called extraordinary and it's on hulu and it's like i'd really highly recommend it. There you go. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. The work of media I've been enjoying is the Simpsons thing. I'll link off to it of the episode about the House of Ill Repute opening in Springfield and then edited together with Donald Trump. I love the clip.

opening in Springfield and then edited together with Donald Trump. I love the clip. I also love just the person who tweeted it at fear gas, Kelly, Ferg has feared ass F E A R G H A S. Kelly tweeted with the thing. I better go super viral for this. He did.

He did. So he like called his shot. But like, I just like that as a sentiment to be like i better fucking blow up for this this is better work i will say actually the peanuts one is the peanuts one is great was by was by comedian noah garfinkel who is you know jack you've never met him you you know yeah no i know yeah yeah. Really good. I actually didn't realize that was him. Rather, in a different vibe than This Better Go Viral, this one

I'm sure has gone more viral than normal for Noah, but he does this kind of shit all the time. So if you like this vibe, follow him. Yes, absolutely. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer Justin Connor, is there a song that you think people should go check out? Yeah, I'm actually going back to my hometown of Chicago tomorrow for a little trip.

And I usually throw this song on to one of the playlists for the flight because it's really relaxing and chill. And it also works really well with MacLeat being here because this is by an Ethiopian jazz musician. I think, Meklit, you mentioned it was Ethiopian New Year's today. It is. The day before. Happy New Year. Yeah, Happy New Year, everybody. Yeah, Happy New Year, everybody.

So this is a song called Tizeta, which, pardon the pronunciation, I believe. Tizeta. Tizeta, okay, which translates to nostalgic. And I just really love this track. I think I heard it in The Bear at some point. But it's very, very relaxing, very technically good jazz music, but just a really nice Sunday evening kind of vibe. So this is Mulatu Astake, and you can find this song in the footnotes.

I don't know if The Bear should be nominated for best comedy stuff, but I do think it should be nominated for best comedy stuff but I do think it should be nominated for like best playlist they have some not best comedy this season I was like oh this is intense but some good

tracks in there but a great show alright well we will link off to that in the footnotes the daily zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio for more more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning. Back this afternoon to tell you what is trending. And we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. There's so much beauty in Mexican culture, like mariachis, delicious cuisine, and even lucha libre. Join us for the new podcast, Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of lucha libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar.

Santos! Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts.