The Daily Zeitgeist - Right Wing “Slavery”? Is Velma A PsyOp? 01.20.23

Episode Date: January 20, 2023

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Shout out to Paul Garabent on the discord for that uh ocean avenue inspired aka i'll always say this tidbit of information the violin player on yellow card he claims he was the first to do first dude to do a backflip at a rock show he claims that yeah he would claim shit like that like dude i like i did the rock backflip and you're like okay you're just you were just having to do a lot because you were the fiddler in Yellow Card. But that's okay. No shade. Who was that lovely soundboard sound coming from? Oh, you know who it was.

The Dark Lord of Sounds. Wait, what was that last one? That's right. It's me, Dark Lord of Sounds. Number one, the wire rewatch podcast in the world. Well, hold on. Let me introduce you. Yes.

You know about the number one Sopranos rewatch podcast in the world, Pod Yourself a Gun. Now he's got the number one The Wire rewatch podcast in the world, Pod Yourself the Wire. He's also a comedian. Also a new father who I look up to and his wonderful partner. But without further ado, please welcome from the Bay Area, Mr. Matt Lieb. Hey, I'm so glad to be co-hosting with you today, Miles.

I love you and I'm so excited for your future fatherhood. I can't wait to have a baby. I want us to press our babies together. Aim them at each other. That's what I always say to people with little babies. I'm like, yeah, we can aim them at each other like Furbies. Yeah. Honestly, to be real with you, I've been shocked by the amount of parents who will be holding their young baby, and we'll be holding our young baby.

And I'll be like, like hey we should go over there and press our babies together right and they're like no they don't like francesca doesn't want to do it i was like but what's why why have babies it's like going to a dog park and be like no my dog and me in the corner it's like right let him baby it up one time let him baby it up please please no i'm all about that and i i'm also just like as i think about i'm like but what are they doing you know what i mean like we're quite literally just gonna aim them at each other until they develop some more skills but hey uh that's all content for the patreon called matt and miles daddy voyage tune in daddy guns

oh man well let's introduce our guest today. Without further ado, I would like to introduce somebody who's not just a wonderful person. Actually, he's an activist. He's a fucking poet. Doesn't he know it? Also an emcee and also makes some of my favorite cold brew. It's not often somebody is actually straddling so many different genres and areas of influence it's mr ernest slimmingway himself the host of the hood politics podcast propaganda hey first things first i proper picking all the poly ticks playboys bunnies i'm selling coffee those who wasn't like a they don't get Nathan But caffeination Unless it smells like Sedation Man

Let's go I'm on TMZ y'all Did you say TMZ Wait hold on You said TMZ Prop I didn't I said TDZ

Oh okay I'm making sure I thought I heard TMZ too Play games with me Yeah I just That's why I backed away From the camera

I don't know what y'all Talking about Listen I like that too Here's the thing I like y'all I love hearing Rookie daddies talk You know what I'm saying Like y'all talking about. Listen. I like that too. Here's the thing. I like y'all. I love hearing rookie daddies talk. You know what I'm saying?

Like, y'all cute. Yeah. You feel me? Because you still talk about, listen, there's very few. Listen, those first few months, there are very few joys that dad get. Yeah, that's true. And during those first few months, you know what I'm saying? dad get yeah that's true and during those first few months you know i'm saying like the bonding that your partner has in gestating yeah you know i'm saying and then i don't know if you're if your

partners decide to like breastfeed yes you breastfeed yeah so me watching my wife bond yes just this like deep you know spiritual like one with the ancestors like lineage it's not fair yeah it's like lineage that all humans have yeah and i'm just like at four in the morning hey can you change her and you're like yeah i got you so i don't get no joy you know what i'm saying so the joy you get is what you're saying going to the park you know i'm saying moving her head like me i've always done the like yeah the 90s fooshnick and rap hands to the park you know i'm saying moving our head like me i've always done the like yeah the 90s fooshnick and rap hands with my daughters you know i ripped it i kicked it i flipped it when i dropped it like so that's what i was doing you know i mean whipping

and nay-nay yeah oh i can't man like there's i mean yeah part of me is like i don't know how much i'll share like you know the the images of kid online. But then the other half of me is like, bro, with TikTok, I'm like wild the fuck out being like, watch me get this little kid see walking on TikTok. Listen, that's when I created the burner account. The private burner account was just for my children. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I could do all these stupid little voices. Yeah, it was getting down.

Yeah, no, we have like a whole app that's just for like baby photos and baby videos and shit because we don't want to put it on. Like if you put it on Instagram, then like people might think, oh, he's given up his illustrious podcasting career. And I don't want people to think that. No, no, no, no. I'm still going to post content. But if you want to see baby stuff, you got to go to this other app. Well, you just let it go. It's like you already know when that that you know the baby's gonna take over your gram right so just create another you gotta separate separate that's all you gotta do

i like that yeah uh well i mean look we always always pay homage to the ogs and the daddy game so appreciate you coming through prop yeah i also appreciate how as something i feel like i don't know if everybody knows just how analog y'all's uh intro always is you know in in in honor of the dj day 12 you know technical yeah yeah i'm saying still carrying crates you know y'all's uh y'all's intro is analog yeah like you really do be turning your head going oh yeah i gotta do it there's no effect i was like this is really they really do this every look i was look i was a little rapper in high school i knew how to i knew how to do some shit on the mic you know what i mean to those interludes and stuff anyway uh let's tell the people a little bit about what we're gonna discuss first today prop let's see first of all uh there's trouble in right wing griff city because steven crowder

says he was offered a slaves deal from the daily wire we'll get into what the fuck that even means and it's gonna make your eyes explode out your head uh then we're gonna talk about that martin luther king jr sculpture and the really i was so hoping i was i was gonna be able to talk about it i mean look yes look there's a big debate, especially with art, the art world. They're like, is it too modern? Because we're used to only seeing these like neoclassical renderings of historical figures. And because of that, we can't handle it. Is it, or does it just look like it looked like it looks like a cunning language?

Is it because it just looks like he's a cunning language? Which is a good thing. And also not mad at, he had a cunning language. Which is, that's a good thing. And also. I'm not mad. He had a very clear and obvious sex drive. Yeah. And also, I didn't realize that Coretta Scott King's cousin was really out here on some very odd politics. Oh, no.

Yeah, because he's the one who kicked off the, like, it looks like a dick discourse. And then everyone's like, well, Coretta's cousin even says it. And that's why Megyn Kelly felt sort of, you know, emboldened to also. A little free. Anyway, so we know how that goes. Let this be a lesson to all white people. Just because we talking about. Exactly.

Exactly. Don't mean you get to talk about. This isn't the venue for your input. Yes. I appreciate the. but there were i love the tweets though that were like look and i have i really shouldn't be saying this because this isn't this isn't for me to say but it does look like a bad sculpture and i'm like thank you wrap around sunglasses avatar yes and then we'll talk about absolutely changing my uh my piece of social

media that i've been thinking about changing my last question. Let me go ahead and rechange it right now. You have time till the end of the episode. And then we're going to talk about the NHL, man. They've, they've been, they've been, they've been in the news for being too woke and not woke enough. I don't know. It's all a problem. And then we'll ask the question is,

is Velma the new animated series so bad that it's a psyop? I was hoping there'd be Velma Discourse on this. We got Velma Discourse. We got MLK Discourse. I've been following Velma Discourse for the last week and it's been blowing my goddamn mind. I can't even keep up with it that I'm like oh Jesus Christ. What are we saying now? I'm not going to watch the show.

It's not the show that's important. I don't even think it's a show. I think it's just discourse. Yeah. And I think the discourse is the psyop. i think that's where we'll it's gotta be um but we'll get to all that and more but first prop yo los angeles is very home can you tell us something what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are okay there's a number of things i thought about doing like father theme stuff i feel like everybody doing that but this is this is i mean i guess it's kind of dad energy the one thing i mean it was two things one that i did real quick which was like how to wash your like blinds window shutters with

like a power washer oh wait what huh okay your blinds? Like, on the interior? The outside ones. No, the inside ones. You take them off and hang them up outside. Oh, okay, got it. And wash them because the dust wasn't doing it. But that's not the main thing that I was, like, really down the rabbit hole for. That's just dad energy. One thing I was down the rabbit hole on was butterboards.

Butterboards? Oh, yeah, on, like, on TikTok where people just do different spreads of kinds of butters and shit. I was like, okay, I know I've brought up, I feel like sometimes I'll be trying to, but the thing is, I'm very, if y'all don't notice already about me, I'm very curious. I'm interested in everything. You know what I'm saying? me i'm very curious i'm interested in everything you know i'm saying everything for me is amazing and interesting and a sociological study yeah anthropological study so like a lot of times when i bring up white shit it's not to make fun of them you know i'm saying because i'm a sufian stevens fan you know i'm saying i wouldn't seen cigarros you know i mean like i like white shit

i love that stuff i love that stuff right wow that's like level 60 white people stuff you just bro i gotta i gotta like i got a varsity level like white card you know i'm saying like i'm into this shit but there are there are boundaries and i was like first of all in my defense i didn't i thought i thought my wife made up the word charcuterie board. I was like, you made that up. Hold on. That's not a word. I don't care what you say. That's all euphemism for a vagina.

I was like, it sounds like clitoris. You made that up. That's charcuterie board. That word sounds like clitoris and cooter and coochie all wrapped in one. All together. Yes, you made that word up. I didn't know what that shit was until like a year ago. I might have to pull your white card now. You only heard about the charcuterie board. You made that word up. I didn't know what that shit was until like a year ago. So when-

I might have to pull your white card now. You only heard about the charcuterie. I was like, there's limits, right? So then when I heard about this butter board, I was like, okay, first of all, I'm not really a big butter fan anyway. And then secondly, I'm just like, what's up with y'all and not liking to put food on plates?

Like, I just don't understand what you got against plates. Like, you be seeing, like, you know, the TikToks with, like, spaghetti just on the table. Oh, I've missed. You know what I'm saying? That's like a food fetish thing, I think. Like, miss me with this, man. What's wrong with plates? What's wrong with plates?

I'm pro plate. I want to put that out there. I love plates. You're also watching The uh the wire which is some of the blackest shit ever that's true so i mean you know i don't know if he's a good i don't know if i'm in touch with that like level of middle america white where they're like putting spaghetti like you know on a on an island and that's made of marble and like i mix all food on on here it's like that is that weird yeah i'm not sure if it's a white person thing or if it's like.

It's a food fetish thing. No, it's a food. We were talking about all those messy recipes or people just mashing shit together. And people are like, no, no. Why? That's what TikTok is, too. Like, you're somehow being fed like other content you don't know about. But the butter board thing, I understand because that is like, that is a.

That's just, that's off the charcuterie board tree where they're like you love yeah it's all about friends visual spreads yeah so look like if you're okay so if we're in like west africa or like ethiopia culturally there is a big cauldron of food yeah you have your like injera or whatever and you eat from the same culture right so that's like cultural you understand i'm saying and so there's a history of that i totally understand there's etiquette they've been doing this for thousands of years so they know how to do this y'all just taking butter and smearing it on wood and putting various seasonings in different parts of the butter and then just bread around the side and

we all posted just dip into this this contest for it that's what happened somebody came one of the homies who was a homie like this is a homie like i'm not dissing this that's the homie all her podcast was doing this butterboard contest and i was like i say this with no baggage and no pretense the fuck is a butterboard right like and like i'm honest i honestly want to know what the hell is this board culture you know what i mean it's all about culture i think you know i think america we perfected it with like the seafood boil just spill the fucking shit on a table you know what i mean that's easy you get that that's easy wrap your head around that's not mixing no no like and what you know what i'm doing i'm taking my little pieces of crawfish and potato and i'm sliding

it over to my plate you understand over to my side i don't throw your discards and y'all have your there's no contaminations this isn't like it's like you're sharing cereal for you it's the germs it's the germs really that you're i'm starting to do it for me oh because oh that's why you made the reference of like west african food because yeah you'll take something like fufu which is like your starchy thing and you put it in your stew and everybody does that communally but yeah there's a way and a rhythm to it versus you used to see loose butter on wood and you're like are are we just going to all make out? This is just spittle skittles.

Is it a lazy Susan? Is it spinning and they're putting the bread on? I need to see a butter board to understand. Matt, just picture a cheese board, but instead of cheese on it, they put different kinds of butter.

Loose butter? Hold on. Let me explain it, like different kinds of butter. Yeah, but cheeses are like... Loose butter? No, bro. Okay, hold on, hold on. All right, let me explain it. Okay, because some people don't know. I'm so sorry. Becca, Becca, please jump in. So, butter board, like Miles said, on a charcuterie board, it is like smashed and not melted, but like spreadable.

Think like when you're putting butter on toast. putting butter on toast they've like put it all across the board and they sometimes put like edible flowers honey like things that would you would put on your own little piece of bread at a restaurant but i must chime in on the spaghetti thing that is linked to fetish content there's like a whole like pipeline of those people yeah no no no not the people that are like that weird camera angle and the guy is always speaking to the girl and the recipes don't make sense and you're like why is she spreading all this pasta sauce over the spaghetti on what are you describing that sounds made up too they're like the fetish where the guy is doing bad recipes and no he's like pov camera like aiming at her like zooming in on her

hands, which are like perfectly manicured, yet she's getting her hands all messy to like mix in spaghetti sauce with her bare hands with spaghetti noodles and meat, and it's like so crazy. People come weird. You know, here's the thing. I'm okay with you like, you know, whatever

for the most part, if you whatever puts blood in your boner but like whenever it's just like adding like food elements to it or like uh like elements that like stop it's like well it's not just human to human how you got this to be sexual you know what i mean like i feel like there are there are moments that remind me of how happy i am i'm out the game yeah yeah you know what I'm saying? Cause like, I like,

and I'm not, I'm not going to kink shame nobody. If that's your thing, that's your thing. I just know if I was in the dating game, you couldn't keep up. I couldn't keep up. I would be like,

you wait, you want, yeah, you heard me. I want you to put your hands through this tub of country crock margarine, squeeze the shit out of it. You're like, Oh man, I take back all the game. I was spit. hands through this tub of country crock margarine squeeze the shit out of it you're like oh man

i take back all the game i was spitting i take it all back i was doing my best now i know probably i've been prop aside from uh butterboards what is another thing what's something you think is overrated i think there's a couple things on the dad tip cloth diapers i mean them things ain't last an hour yeah in my house i was we we did once and i was like nah fam get rid of all this yeah fuck that uh yeah and but really i think what's overrated is sandwiches wow not described don't tell me why but i like this take i mean i'm willing i love it but i agree with it but but take me into your world. Because what, okay. I just, what, okay. Do you remember Anthony Bourdain?

He was talking about RIP. He was talking about like, he don't want to see no gourmet burger. Because he's like, what are you going to improve on? It's a burger. Right. There's you, the first burger was perfect.

Everything you add into it is just, you just, you know what I'm saying? You just put, actually actually it's just salsa on the tacos like come on fam like yeah it's like burgers a burger you can't improve on it right it's like the burger eve ate the apple from the tree of knowledge and fucked up the garden of burger eden absolutely and now we're trying to get too smart with it and now we have yes and now we need and now we need a burger jesus we need a burger savior yeah yeah and forgive us for our sins yeah yeah so i just feel like a sandwich is like okay when you like this is you in kindergarten you know you're in third grade and mama put some protein in between bread i just don't understand how there's a whole ass store. There are whole restaurants,

whole chains. Your critique of sandwiches is that, well, that's baby food. That's all this shit is. It's lunch. For babies. Elementary school lunch. Sandwiches are for babies.

You can't gourmet this. Okay, so what you going to do? You going to do special bread? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You going to make this sandwich hot. Wait, wait, wait. Prop, going to do? You want to do special bread? You know what I'm saying? You're going to make this sandwich. Wait, no. Prop, prop, prop.

You know, there's. Hold on. Now, listen. Okay, hold on. I will give you some exceptions. Like a po' boy. A shrimp po' boy. It's a different situation.

Wait, why though? Tell me why the po' boy gets a different. Because that's not baby food. Because that's not for babies. Baby can't handle it. And I feel like New Orleans cuisine can do no wrong. So what about a muffaletta? That's also a New Orleans banger sandwich right there.

But see, to me, I'm like, you're doing too much. I love fried food. Wow, okay. So I'm like, if I have fried food and a roll, and I can eat it at the same time, to me, it's just like it's efficiency wait so are you not in general the proposition of a sandwich is not anything that appeals to you like if if someone's like oh we're gonna grab sandwiches you're like i'm saying they're overrated i'll eat a sandwich i'm just saying you don't love them special about it it's just a sandwich yeah like i just i you can't you can't judge this up enough to make it something that it ain't.

Okay. You put it in toaster, make it toasty. Oh, I got it. So the bread's toasted now. But you acknowledge there's levels to this shit though too, right? There is something like at the low end, what you're saying, mom's putting protein between two pieces of bread. And then at the higher end for you, clearly there's a po' boy.

Yeah. But see, I feel like a po-boy is like stratosphere. It's like there's no, it would be like if we was talking basketball, there's like Little League and then the NBA. Right. And there's no high school. There's no All-American. There's no, there's nothing in between that.

Okay. Does this. Everything to me is JV. Does that analysis. I'm like it all sandwiches cap at JV, and then there's po' boys. Okay, and burgers is the same thing? Are there levels to that? I just...

You ain't going to do nothing. Okay, so add a pineapple. Okay, great. Add a fried egg. But is a burger a sandwich? Yeah. You see my point? And there's a hot dog sandwich.

I mean, I get what you're saying. You get what I'm saying? If something is good enough, it transcends, and it's like, you don't put it in the sandwich category. You go, no, that's a po' boy. That's not a sandwich. Yeah, when you go to restaurants and they're like, okay, here's our burgers and here's our chicken sandwiches. That's a very good point. That's a chicken burger.

That's ridiculous. This ain't a sandwich. That's a great point. You see what I'm saying? So I'm like, it's just overrated. Why y'all trying to make this a thing? Anything that would normally fit in the label of sandwich overrated right anything that gets its own section in the menu it's absurd yeah yeah that's not a sandwich i'm just like sandwiches you can't do nothing to

them you have to that's what i'm saying like you make the exact point matt you have to make it something else for it to be special totally otherwise. Otherwise, it's just baloney. It's just overrated. Okay. That's what I'm saying. Okay. Interesting. I like, okay.

Look, this is what we're here for, the sandwich discourse. What's something you think is underrated? What I think is underrated is- Baby food. Blossing. Yeah, baby food. It's actually delicious. Mush food.

You'll get there. Mush cheese. Mush bananas for adults. I'm waiting for the day now also also please miles you don't have to do it on on this thing but report back when you taste breast milk oh yeah oh yeah i already had it it's good okay i was gonna say right it passes so oh okay that's oh okay uh yeah yo, like, what's your child drinking? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's for him. Okay.

Yeah, yeah. Matt? It's very sweet. It tastes like honey milk. It's really good. It's very sweet. I'll go to the store for mine. Okay.

But no, I was going to say, I think, like, dental flossing is underrated. Wow. Not according to dentists. Not according to dentists. Dentists have it very evenly rated, but everyone else, we all think it's, you know, under. It sucks. It sucks. I feel like I'll sit down, start a Netflix show on the couch and I'll just floss.

Wow. It just feels so good to me. Don't you? I don't understand how everybody don't enjoy the feeling of getting stuff out your teeth i like to do the thing where i suck the air through my teeth because i know the i like this yeah oh my god it's flowing it's clean yeah that's i do like that feeling but i don't use i use the picks because with the things i know they don't last as long and i probably shouldn't because it's like a ton of plastic but sometimes with the floss like

my technique's just like and here's the thing i have a i have a abnormally tiny tight little mouth okay and uh so i feel like i can't reach those back teeth because of my my sweet sweet little mouth wow you got like you got mini mouth huh yeah a tiny, tiny mouth. It's just like you should see me try to eat a burger. Wait, really? You got a small mouth? Well, the thing is, is I have a surprisingly small mouth. It's just like, you can't tell from just looking at it, but as soon as I try to open my mouth,

it's wide. Wow. So it's like, hey, can I get a bite? Yeah. Let me see you bite that microphone. I'm pressing my face into it. Can you get your mouth all around the microphone right now? Oh, yeah, look, you bite that microphone. I'm pressing my face into it. Can you get your mouth all around the microphone right now? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You could do that. I thought you would be like a turtle.

Yeah. As this gets wide, my cheeks go in. So really the hole becomes an oval. Physics. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So I forgot how we got here. I think we're talking about breastfeeding. Flossing.

Yeah, flossing's hard, dude. All that to say. It just feels glorious. I like, I just, I don't understand why people hate it. I just, I'm like, dude, this, I think you ain't never been walking around with something in between your teeth. You're just like sucking your tongue all day. It feels great. I love doing that and knowing the fuck out of her majesty.

She's like, oh, stop sucking your teeth. And I was raised by, like, teeth suckers. My grandmother, always sucking her teeth. And it's also, like, a way to emote, too. Like, black people, like, there's, like. That's what I'm saying. It's disrespectful. Teeth sucking is just, like, a thing.

And so sometimes, like, I can't stand it. I'm like, this is just. I know it's. I'm kind of going OD disrespectful. Keep sucking is just like a thing. And so sometimes I can't stand it. I'm like, this is just, I know I'm kind of going OD on it. So I will just go floss. Because sometimes I'm like working on one, like, ah, I just went loose. I could just go floss there in my house. Yeah, I know. And that's when I'm like, no, you're right. You're right.

This is excessive. But yeah, I think it's probably because like when you're a kid, right? Like I hated going to the dentist. Because like I remember the one time, or the times I've had cavities, sometimes I just hated the feeling of Novocaine in my face being numb. So I was always like, oh shit. And then the flossing always felt like

homework from the dentist. So then my relationship to flossing was like, I ain't doing his fucking homework even though it's going to prevent me from going back in his chair. And then as I got older, I'm like, man, fucking take care of your teeth. i'm gonna get in here i want this dentist to be like wow all right that's what i want i want the dentist to be like well go ahead oh yeah there's nothing like we're done impressing a dentist makes you feel so good you're just like

yeah i know i've been practicing for you it for you. It's like your other dad. It's the most codependent, just horrible attachment relationship you have with your dentist. My dentist has me by the fucking neck, man. I've been going to this dentist since I was four. Oh. And it's because my dad knew him from high school and then didn't see him from high school. And then when I was in preschool, my dentist my dentist also had a like a kid my age. So they reunited. He's like, what's up?

He's like, oh, I'm a dentist. So I went there. I've been with him since. And every time I go, he's like, oh, you got a job. Oh, you're doing that. Oh, you're getting married and stuff like that. And he's like, man, he's like, he's like, you flossing enough on those back. Like he really could get exasperated.

I'm sorry. Yeah. At this point, he's at this point. He's a he you flossing enough though on those back? Like he really could get exasperated on me. I'm sorry. Yeah. At this point, he's a, at this point, he's an uncle. He is. He is. And it fucks me up because I've even, I think I've added anxiety to go see him. Cause it's not just like hearing a doctor be like, Hey, you know, you can be doing this.

He's like, Hey man, let me, let me talk to you, man. Um, look, if you floss more, I'll whiten your teeth for free for your wedding, man. Does that sound like a good deal? I'm like, bro, Let's make a deal. Why is this like chores and shit now? He's like, I'll let you go to the football game if you get your shit together. My, yeah. My dentist is just like, beside it, like, Filipina.

Yeah. You know, old school lady. And, you know, backstory to me, like, my stepmom's Filipino. So I already feel like. Oh, yeah. Her energy. I'm about to go see my mom. You know what I'm saying? Jason.

There's that level, you know, pare, pare. You know, that level of like, get this shit right. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You gotta stop eating those hamburgers. Alright, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Filipino joke, y'all. That was a Filipino joke. You're eating hamburger,

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Okay, we got a guy vegans. Hey, gutom na ako. Gutom na ako. That's what I say when I'm hungry, baby. I get fed every time. I only know the one thing. I am now busog. Yeah, that and also how to get beat up by saying some off-the-cuff shit.

But anyway, that's what happens when your homies are just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, Say that to the homegirl. See what happens. It's all bad. But yes, let's talk about some people that have, oh my God, lost it even more. So Steven Crowder

is someone you're better off not knowing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if you do, fine. And if you don't, I think the easiest way to reference him is like, you've probably seen

that meme template, which is a guy sitting at a folding table on a college campus with a coffee cup. And there's a sign on it with something like feminists or nazis change my mind right um and people use that that meme template anyway he's a guy who just you know is incendiary and likes to be confrontational and ignorant and wrong about everything he's talking about yeah big old piece of shit oh yeah yeah stinking pile of shit and he's got a sizable

following online with his talk show or of course he does it's the easiest job in the goddamn world every time someone is just like a really popular right-wing influencer i'm like yeah because you just go there and you go like where are my old people at all of your preconceived notions are correct and then that's it that's the whole job it's if yeah anybody who just like caps for a living yes it's just like of course you're gonna because everybody likes cap because it's just like even if you're like i'm watching a train wreck yeah yeah exactly and i think it's yeah it's like basically doing the lowest stakes low energy crowd work but for just racists is like what these people do like hey where are you from exactly man what do you think

drisantis is great right yeah boom there we go hey download my show anyway so the daily wire which is ben shapiro's company or the one that he's like the face of apparently made crowder an offer to join the mothership of hate content and he rejected it so he went online to post a video about how big tech is in bed with big con. I think that's what he's calling like capital C conservatives, mainstream conservative culture, which I feel like at this point is hard to differentiate from right wing extremism. So like, what are we saying here? But anyway, he's like, this is it, man. They're in the bag for big tech, big con.

They're coming together. And he used like the terms of the offer like to underline how awful like this bullshit is he basically said he found it like in it says i would lose money if i failed to deliver all of my contracted episodes and then also i could lose contract well hold on hold on hold on as you talk about you guys are leftist communists let me finish my sentence okay and also that i could lose lose money or it could be greatly reduced if I'm banned from YouTube or other platforms for hate speech. Yeah, the place where they make the money? No, but that's bad.

That's bad. So he does all this shit. He goes on this rant. His fans are like incensed And they begin to put it together He did not mention Daily Wire at all He just said you know who you are His fans or whatever People began to put it together

So the CEO of the Daily Wire Had to make a statement too Which essentially was this dude being like This guy Stephen Crowder Is clearly not intelligent enough To know how contracts work So I don't know what the fuck You want me to say here

Like it is what it is. Like, this is... Yeah, if you... So, here's the thing. If you breach the contract, we don't pay you. Yeah, you can get in trouble and make the contract void. That's like the whole... That's why a contract exists. Wait, what do you mean? That's why they were invented.

If I'm deplatformed from YouTube and my show can no longer be monetized, you're saying you can't make money anymore to give me from that? So I'm. So, wait, wait, let me get this straight. So you you you go. You hire him me to do a YouTube show. Just your same show.

I get kicked off YouTube. You're not going to pay me. That's kind of what it is. Yeah, that seems like socialism to me, dog. Yeah, that's what that is. Look, you can kind of tell why he's a little grand head ass he's kind of a little bit you know uh cagey here because this is the kind of shit that he said this is something he said back in december when he's

talking about yeah i think kanye west is right he hates jewish people i think he's been wronged and i think that he's aiming sometimes a howitzer he's being imprecise yes um wrong about everything look is there a conversation to be had about secular humanists with jewish last names in hollywood exploiting people uh anyway you already know where he's going i remember this one you already know he's going with that i remember this one hey shut up ben shapiro for sliding him a bag you know what i mean at the end of the day it don't fucking matter it don't matter to them it doesn't matter because at the end it's all about hate and it's all about power and nothing else of course especially man listen dude the guy that the last guy that like uh you know did a janky deal with

me was a left-hander so now i'll be like you know what the fuck are you talking about fam like everybody with a left hand so i mean oh i mean there's a conversation to be had though about the secular humanist left-handers in hollywood and the ones with the little hats they all congregate they like to hold the globes with their octopus hands and the people holding the globes i think was trump when he went to the Middle East at the beginning of his administration. Remember that? Same vibe.

Same thing, different shape. So this is where he's at. We know this is his whole vibe is just hate speech. And his fans came to his defense. It was like, fuck, Daily Wire, do the wheels come off type shit for about 15 minutes because that's when people realized that the deal he described as saying he's like this is basically

enslavement to accept this contract you know what it was worth 50 million dollars over four years this man was offered 12 and a half million dollars a year with four weeks off and a four-day work week. And he called this shit slavery. So now the fans are like, wait, even his own people are like, wait, what? They're even like, hold the fuck up. You said $50 million is slavery? Yo, fuck you. You're out here talking about the globalists taking away all of our shit.

Meanwhile, you're over here being like, yeah, man, $'t enough baby anyway i don't understand your play played a dangerous game because eventually that i feel like that game always ends that way somebody finally goes wait hold up now yeah what what and it has to be a lot of money for right-wingers to get mad about it because like right-wingers in general don't like they they're never the ones who, I always see it more on the left where someone is like, oh man, this thing is paying me dog shit. And it'll be like $50,000 a year. And someone will be like, wow, you're rich. Or people who come at like Hassan Piker who has paid subscribers and they're like, oh my God, dude, you're a socialist and you make money? Like, oh my God, dude, you're a socialist and you make money?

Right. But to be a right winger on the right, you have to make, it has to be $50 million over four years in order for people to be like, okay, I'm drawing the line. Yeah. He's smart. This is officially not slavery. I mean. And for somebody who, and for a crew of people that don't believe in, like, institutionalized injustice, they sure do like the language of institutionalized injustice. Oh, 100%. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is slavery.

I thought slavery wasn't a thing, homie. Yeah, right. They love it. I thought it was a choice, fam. I thought it was a choice, OG. I thought it was, you know, everybody a choice man it wasn't i thought it was a choice oh gee i thought it was you know everybody every man couldn't be me you gotta work hard no they like to appropriate the outrage of oppressed people without like actually being outraged about the physical the literal oppression that they're talking about that's why they're acknowledging that oppression exists exactly but that's but having like not really actually being connected

to it being actually oppressed ends you like you end up being going to the capital on january 6th and taking pictures inside the capital because that's you're like i don't know man we only thought it to this part because actually i'm actually doing pretty well financially no you know i don't have the same motives as an actual person who's in in dire straits and trying to advocate for something i'm just i'm here to like be like hey baby it's kind of these guys are literally being like they're trying to take away our gas stoves like they they don't know the stakes couldn't be lower the stakes couldn't be lower yeah i'm just dog that it's like i i'll be trying like i said everything's interesting to me

so i'll be trying so hard to put myself in your shoes and i'm like in their shoes and i'm like i just can't understand somebody who has never suffered wanting to suffer yeah and i'm like and and picking the most lamest stuff like you're gonna tweet yourself turning on the gas though and i'm supposed to like i'm supposed to empathize with your like well because it's all here all it is it's just the same thing it's the same basic grievance but just dressed up in a different thing every time which is essentially the loss of like white hegemony in the united states that's all it is for real so everything that's processed like that is just be like well then now it's manifested in the form of a stove now it's manifested in the form of a stove. Today, it's manifested in the form of a Muppets fucking episode. Tomorrow, it's the NHL.

But at the end of the day, it's like they're like, fuck, man, we're losing. Fucking losing. And that's driving so much of. Except for the day. And I just don't understand, like, which one of y'all strategists ain't just looking around at the people that support you, especially like this middle this middle America who are like actually financially insecure. Why you can't just be like, well, what are they worried about? Well, let's just talk about what they worried about. I just don't understand why that is.

Why is that so hard? You talk about losing your gas stove. They talk about being able to pay their gas bill. So right now, you just you wasted money turning this on for Twitter. Like if you don't say it like if I'm Paul, I'm like, man, you got money to just turn on your stove just for fun. Right. I said, so I told SoCal Gas they're going to have to fucking come get this fucking money. Yeah.

Everybody in L.A. la was like what the fuck happened last month like that was the price is what was that i said i i told them on the phone i said i have yeah come through i have ogun waiting for you on the other side yeah yeah yeah this don't make no damn sense anyway i ain't do nothing different this month yeah just calling them up why am i in trouble yeah what I do? What the hell is this? I didn't do nothing. So, again, it's fun to see the fans on the right fight. But, again, my head almost fell off when I realized just how much money is in this hate content.

You know what I mean? That's why these people keep drifting on this shit. Because it's $50 million deals on the table. It's numerous ways to earn funds. Yeah. My God. That's the peace havoc for prodigy yeah hey the real agent i see okay let's move on to uh the martin luther king jr sculpture uh discourse

and debate so a sculpture was unveiled by hank willis thomas honoring dr martin luther king jr and coretta scott king in Boston. And it depicts their arms like hugging. It's from a very famous photo. Like if you've seen the photo or you've seen enough imagery of Martin Luther King, you've probably seen this photo. But the second this thing was unveiled, like a bunch of controversy kicked off. The first one coming from Seneca Scott, who is the cousin of Coretta Scott King. He said the sculpture is a quote atrocity. It looks like, quote, a penis. And, you know, I is a quote atrocity. It looks like quote a penis.

And you know, I'm like, well, that's a very odd looking penis. Yeah. And then again, all of this like phallic based criticism became a news story. Cause now they're like,

Oh, okay. So hold on. That's, that's Coretta's cousin. And he's saying it looks like shit. Now, like now it became headlines.

Like it looks like a penis sculpture dedicated to MLK sparks criticism from family outrage erupts over quote obscene martin luther king statue in boston and a lot of people are like oh no uh megan kelly also parroted the same like it looks like a giant penis but you know one one thing we do have to point out about seneca scott some very in that same essay where he said the sculpture looks like a penis, that's debatable. He claims it was a result, not of an artist, but quote, the woke algorithm. Oh my God. Okay. I didn't know that part. Yeah.

I didn't know that part. Yeah. This is the thing that a lot of people are missing about this story. They're just saying that's, people just go, Coretta Scott King's, they probably go, yeah, Coretta Scott King's cousin. They're probably on the right side of justice. Right on the right side of history here, yeah, Coretta Scott King's cousin. They're probably on the right side of justice. That's what I'm thinking. Right on the right side of history here, yeah. But, I mean, like, he's part of an organization advocating for the unhoused. Great, fantastic in the Bay Area.

But when he ran for mayor of Oakland, okay, of Oaktown, when you look at his website, let's see. Let's say, let's talk crime and law enforcement. Where are the cops? He goes on to say um wants more police officers said quote we have a problem with attrition because officers leave after four years when they don't have to pay back their police academy training costs less than 10 of them live in the city it's a dangerous job and they're villainized not respected that's even more incentive to leave we need to change the culture oh boy yeah you didn't win no mr scott no he did not win with that in oakland no he did no research on this city yeah none at all none at all that mean like when they when they even

when they even like like played around with the idea of killer robots they were like are you not on this part of the bay uh and they're like yeah yeah you in the town homie you in the town yeah this ain't the city. This the town. And even worse, right? On his website, there's a thing that said, what's going on with the escalating attacks on Asians? He said, quote, and I think this is from an interview. He said, quote, it's disgusting. I feel ashamed.

It's not a racist issue. It's not motivated by hate against Asians, but opportunity. A person who is small and can't fight back, but who has cash, gold jewelry, and a nice watch becomes a target. What the fuck? Like, that's the strangest? What is basically saying Asians are weak and they floss in too much? That's really on them.

That's basically what you said. That's really what you said. You said that's a mark. They're marks. It's not about racism. It's about being genetically easy to kill. You're a genetic mark. Like, what? Yeah, you just know you on the wrong hood at the wrong time. You out here high posting on me.

Hey, look. Look, it's a lot of hungry niggas in these streets. You feel me? You can't just be walking around here aging with jewelry. You know what I'm saying? You just asking for the gum. What the fuck? Yeah.

What? What? Okay, fam. That's crazy he made that more racist. Yeah. Like, that was wild. It's not about hate evasions. It's because they little and got too much money on them.

Like, whoa. And also, it's a black crime problem. It's like, who is this? Is he wearing a mask? What is actually? And another thing, which is wild, too, like, just at the end or, like, he was like rallying with the people that were opposing gender affirming care for trans kids. Oh, God, man. This is the politics of the person who like sort of opened the floodgates.

Now, I think it's I think it's also worth the discussion because I know a lot of people I've seen a lot of people look at that and go, man, I don't know. It's kind of like a fucking hell to me and i get that i think everyone has probably an idea or version of how they want to see like the manifestation of a of the honoring of of like such an iconic pair to like how that comes to be but yeah it is wild to see how many people are like yeah yeah you know i think that yeah i think there's a lot of things going on here because first of all like that sculptor he's a g yeah like he's got some pretty dope other pieces of art full disclosure is him and my him and his mother and my dad know each other from like the black art scene from the 80s his mother deb willis yeah she's also

she's also his mother's also like an artistic like genius yeah level and a lot of it are like arms based like sculptures he's got a vibe he's got a vibe i didn't i saw the dick second first i saw yeah i saw the like the like martin showing what that mouth do yeah i saw thighs yes you know what i'm saying right so i was like good god holding a head into thighs that's what i thought i would feel me so and and like you said i know the picture that's when he won the nobel peace prize i knew what he was trying to say you know but i will say this i think that there's something people really have to understand about like black twitter period and black people is nothing is sacred for us yeah it's anybody can get it anybody can get a joke you don't care if you martin luther king i don't care what if it's

something funny we're gonna laugh i think the biggest tweet and the response to this was the one saying with the dude being look like he look like he koochie and i remember that tweet blew the fuck up and a lot of like that's a cunning linguist, though. You know what I'm saying? So, and so, and what I think people don't, what people really need to understand about our culture is, like, these practices exist for a number of reasons, but they're two different things in the sense that, like, just because we laughing at it don't mean we outraged. Just because we laughing at it don't mean we respect you.

Like, if you, for the black community and i feel like i feel like i could say this at 100 with a pretty high confidence worry when we ignore you yeah when you don't when you don't make it on the blip like okay so like like like nobody knew i forgot i forgot stacy dash existed until she talked about she ain't know DMX died. Right, right, right. I was like, I forgot you was a person. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? And then I was like, this how you going to come back up into the, this how you show back up?

Because you don't know DMX died. A year late on DMX dying. That's a weird way to go back on TV. Exactly. So what I'm saying is like, if we ignore you, if you ain't even a blip, that means we're done. Yeah, we're not. You know what I'm saying is like when if we ignore you if you don't if you ain't even a blip that means we're done yeah we're not you know i'm saying but if we crack it dope yeah it's like this matters to us you know i'm saying and it's how we process stuff but like but for real though and yes that was a different i don't want to diss the man because he a legend

and far be it for me because i am an artist that wasn't nothing hurt mo yeah gonna be working on something for three years yeah and unveil it and you ain't see it you've been looking at this thing right for three years you ain't seen the first thing somebody saw was like yo that look like a dick fam what oh wait wait is he going down on her no no he's not nobody's going down on anybody what are you talking about oh no it's the arms You don't see the arms? Like, I do now, now that you said it, but I ain't see that. I think you really got to, this is why, like, when it comes to, like, public art, you really do have to, like, send it to a few of your best dummy friends. Non-art people, yeah.

And a couple teenagers. Yeah, and a couple teenagers. If it looks like either a dick or a swastika or a guy eating a butt, they'll let you know immediately. Right. And then you can recalibrate. There won't be any chin wagging. Hmm, well, let's see. I don't know.

Even if it's like him as a black, you got to pick which auntie. Because there's an auntie that'll be like, oh, baby, you made that all by yourself. So proudly the Lord has given you such gifts and it is the other auntie that's like uh i don't know i don't know nephew just my own i don't like it you you put you putting your name on that yeah you gonna put your name on that nephew that's how your mama doing immediately change the subject i've seen it like it's wild that like the art discourse though too that it's kicked off which is like americans can't handle modern art like the only thing that probably would have been like somewhat like unit like i guess the safe pick

is just a very sort of true to form carving statue you know like a full figure or a bust or something like that because i think even as the artist was saying he was trying to convey something that was deeper than merely these two human beings he wanted to evoke them with their arms and like this very famous pose but wants to show something that transcends that and that was like you know yeah i mean it's a dope idea it is a good idea idea. Concept. Yeah. And I get like, I get it. And especially once I saw like the picture was based on, I was like, okay,

yeah, actually that's, that's cool. The problem is that there's, there's a couple of angles where it distinctly looks like someone is eating someone's pussy. And I feel like that makes, that overtakes a part of my brain that enjoys modern art.

Well, it's a litmus test. You know, I can't unsee it. The wizard brain and it wants, and it looks for dicks and it looks for anything. It looks for any pornographic. Yeah.

Yeah. I just, I feel like it's gut. We got that from the Neanderthals, man. Like this has stayed into our DNA. So it's evolutionarily uh like just sort of inevitable yeah we're inevitably going to see this yeah but yeah you're right like when the

angle turns you're like oh damn that's actually beautiful i see the picture right then you're like i just gotta stand and look at it this direction right the problem is it's a 3d space exactly so there are going to be people who see the angle of mlk going to work going to work on credit but like that's also that is also beautiful i would love it if the artist just said yeah that's part of it yeah totally or like yeah if that's what you see yeah he's a giving lover dope, he's saying that we're all pink on the inside. And that's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful thing. And we all, you know, like, it's not his worst kept secret that Martin got around.

Yeah. Everybody got their coping mechanisms. You know what I'm saying? How you coped with trying to take down 100 years of racism was the punani. That's how he coped. Honestly, it's a stressful job. It's a really stressful job. It's okay for him to de-stress. However he has to.

But yeah, you know what? Take a couple art classes, people. You know, not everything sticks. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And the NHL getting dreaded. Really quick, I just want to point out a couple things. So they had like, you know, they had like a pathway to hockey summit, which is like a job fair in Fort Lauderdale.

And in the LinkedIn post that the NHL was like putting on this event, it said they wanted to specifically invite, quote, people who are women, veterans, black, Asian, Pacific Islander, Hispanic, Latino, indigenous, LGBTQ or disabled. You know, say, hey, marginalized people pull up to this thing. If you're interested in, you know, work like jobs that could get you into hockey or whatever desantis ron desantis naturally his press secretary came out and was like this is discriminatory you know it's like because you didn't include white guys so this is you know we see this all the time that anything that is meant to create equity is naturally it's it's at the expense of the you you know, the powerful. But the story then got picked up on, like, right-wing media outlets. And basically, you know, the National Review said,

DeSantis administration demands NHL remove discriminatory prohibitions from minority-only hockey summit. And, I mean, you know, the NHL completely just fucking caved. They're like, yeah, yeah, no problem. They deleted the post. Which is wild because I can't think of a wider group than the NHL completely just fucking caved. They're like, yeah, no problem. They deleted the post, which is wild because I can't think of a wider group than the NHL. Let me tell you something. I'm like you. It's an uphill battle because hockey is by definition cold. So and I played for 16 years.

I played. I played ice hockey in L.A. I'm a fucking weirdo. I've been I've been in the hockey trenches out here yeah yeah yeah yeah so it's like you it's it's you and my homeboy uh my homeboy jay bones those are the only two people i know from la that played hockey and so i'm like you already up upfield battle but like sometimes i feel like i wish i miss my calling in like writing press statements for people. Because at that point, if I'm the NHL, I would be like, Mr. Santos, if you could look around, we have no shortage of white people.

Right. There is no shortage. I could like I could close my eyes and spin my hand right here. I'm a slap 70 white boys. You know what the breakdown is in the NHL and the league's employees? boys. You know what the breakdown is? In the NHL, the league's employees, 86% white, 62% male. Yeah, see, I would just tweet that. Rather than Cave, I would tweet that. More than 93% identified as straight or

heterosexual. Hell yeah. Sounds like my kind of sport. Yes. I would be like, this is why we did this, and then just post that screenshot. There are so many people in the NHL that fistfights there are just considered normal and no one gets in trouble. That's how white it is. That's how white it is.

Is that literal violence can happen. Oh, man. But there's nothing like dropping gloves. Nothing like dropping gloves. I never thought of that. That is amazing. It's not a thing because you would think, yeah, I wonder if you would think twice if it was like, you know, you just like burly white dude. You know what I'm saying?

From like the stick somewhere. And then you drop gloves. Fool takes his hat off. You know, fool takes his mask off. He's just like, like immigrant Mexican, man. You're just like, oh. Right. Am I going to get dragged?

You know what's fucked up? The NHL may do something racist like that. It's like, and now you can have your brown enforcer position come out and beat the fuck out of somebody. Which, watch, we're probably fucking 10 years out from that. But then, as if that wasn't enough, like, days later, they had another chance to maybe

do something right. It was Pride Night at the Philadelphia Flyers game, and the defenseman, Ivan Provorov, he said, he said, I'm not wearing no pride themed rainbow colored jersey family, nah. And he said, he was citing his quote, Russian Orthodox religion. And he said, I respect everybody's choices,

but my choice is to stay true to myself and my religion. That's all I'm going to say. And then the coach came out and was like yeah man that's why i respect him he's always true to himself like well hold on you don't have to bring him up exactly like what was that and the nhl again didn't push back against this either and they said they had a statement that said quote players are free to decide which initiatives to support and we continue to encourage their voices and perspectives on social and cultural issues i'm like well this person has a regressive one on this just as we accept uh and love that gay people were born that way russian orthodox

bigots are also born that way and we uh prefer that people stand up for what they believe based on what they were born right and there was this one you know the one canadian broadcaster basically came out and said like yo the nhl should have fined the flyers like a million dollars of saying that like imagine if this was a rah-rah jingoism military theme night yeah and a player refused to participate in that everyone would have blown their brains off of their heads they would their minds would have exploded from the outrage and they would have blown their brains off of their heads they would their minds would have exploded from the outrage and they would have been like are you fucking kidding me type shit so it's like well then what is it because you got to be consistent and if that and again i think they're saying if you don't if you if you cave that quickly to the diversity thing and this

it shows that there was really no conviction in that to begin with right it's just like that and so many fucking places are doing this still in the, after post 2020 and the, in the, in the summer of Floyd and all that people, all this talk of like, yeah, we're doing better,

man. Fucking, I would say maybe 3% of these motherfuckers even know what they're doing. Yeah. And that's what's, I think also like another just infuriating sort of part of like my slow crawl to progress. Yeah.

I can't tell you how many like dei you know teams have reached out since 2020 and how many like gigs you know even my wife who's like an expert in it you know and got a couple gigs on but you know she sit down with this org and she's like yeah we could fix this if we had a time machine like sort of created and some of y'all were born do you know how far back we need to go to be able to get you to where you trying to get to right yeah uh yeah this stuff's anyway nhl like do you and look we'll get this last one in because, Matt, I know you wanted to talk about it. Thank you. Velma. The Velma discourse.

I, so first of all, I subdued, there was so much shit going around about Mindy Kaling over the week on every corner of Twitter. I was like, what the fuck is going on? And this is a response to the adults only kind of reimagining of Scooby-Doo

centered around Velma. And, you know, this is, I don't even know where to start. So first there was a news that the show was being review bombed, which is apparently like, they're saying like the,

the scores are so low. And a lot of people were like, it's probably because quote, due to the racially diverse recasting of characters, traditionally portrayed as white, which does seem a formula we've seen in the last decade of how you anger these people. Yeah, that's true. But then there was an article in Forbes that said it was, quote,

so bad that it's, quote, spawning conspiracy theories that the show is a secretly a right wing psyop. So the quote, the right can point at uh so the right can point at as everything wrong with race recast is social justice influenced media which is is such a incredible thing that is like we have it's the first time i've seen this like content unite people who are, it's like a bipartisan, like the anti-woke boomers are all just like, Oh,

here's a woke, you know, Velma's brown. Yeah. They're trying to take away my culture. And then you've got like the anti or you got, you know, like the woke or social justice oriented zoomers who are like velma is

actually secretly reactionary propaganda that is made in order to destroy our movement and i'm like right this is and i want to tell both these people like hey maybe just maybe just a cartoon yeah it could just be i watched i watched the first episode because i was like what the fuck's going on and i'm like it's not that bad i mean i wasn't like yo they knocked this shit out the park but i was just like well okay i'm not i'm kind of failing to see what aside i still don't understand our our fascination and necessity for nostalgia in the sense that like everything has to be exactly how you remembered it right because there's also a reality of that the stuff from your childhood might possibly have been a remake also right of something what it did it didn't look like in the

first place you know i get it though i understand why they're like this it's like white people in general i think in america specifically like our our content is our culture you know what i mean it's like so people's like are very they're very attached to they're very attached to like that's why political opinions these days aren't really about like politics they're about like well my favorite content creator says this is the right politics. Right. Like, everyone's politics, everything is based on what media they're consuming. So these, like, hardcore right-wing fucking, like, you know, white people are just like, if you try to mess with my favorite stories, then I'm going to destroy you on the internet. I think America's lack of physical history has been replaced with media hegemony.

Yes. Media hegemony. Our myth-making. Yeah. That's our pantheon. That's our fucking holiseum. That's our great hanging gardens type shit. So true.

So when you start fucking with that, then's like yeah our our our like pyramids of giza right it's bugs bunny right come on fam exactly the fact that yeah that's elma is white you know what i mean? She's whole white. Yeah, that is the big issue. I went to, when we was kids, you know, we went to church like everybody, my Hugh did, you know. But we had this type of like, I wasn't a part of like evangelical, conservative. That just wasn't the church we went to. Anyway, when movies would come out that were like bible-based like you know noah or whatever like that we would for us we would see these other churches in outrage about how it wasn't biblically accurate i remember specifically and it's just it's i have a few warm

memories from this time our pastor being like it's just a movie yeah like it was just like these like it's just a movie like i don't get my theology from a movie like it's just a movie yeah like it was just like these like it's just a movie like i don't get my theology from a movie like it's just a movie yeah wrong i don't care it's just a movie so me like i for me it's like everybody else got like church trauma and baggage from that conservative world mine was like i don't care it's just a movie like i don't have to care what it say so i've always carried that into other stuff when you're like like care it's just a movie like i don't have to care what it say so i've always carried that into other stuff when you're like like oh it's just a movie it's like people don't need shit to me like it's a cartoon you know what i'm saying i mean you tried saying that though

like to these of the right wingers you try to tell them like tucker carlson that's just a tv show and they're like no it's not just a tv it's a TV. It's how I base my entire worldview on what I should be mad about. Yeah, it's how I rationalize my decision. Yeah, and I want to be like, well, let's talk about that. Yeah, let's talk why. Let's talk about that. Like, that's so, why? What is he offering?

You know what I'm saying? Like, I just. Well, you know, my dad wasn't around, so my grandfather raised me. He was a real piece of shit racist and in a way i'm kind of hanging on to those memories and ideals to honor him yeah is one way but i mean no one wants to work out that's saying they don't want to work out their trauma no why they feel the way they feel they just want to feel the way they feel and feel that they're right for feeling it so that they're it's because tucker carlson all he does is help you put off going to therapy he's like no i feel good that's what it is

yeah because it ain't me it's what tucker said it's these other people that don't look like me that's the problem whoa thank you because i almost started crying today because i could tell you with all of the problematic stuff that oprah has done or like you know why the black panther is why wakanda exists i'm like well there are actual geopolitical socio-cultural reasons why representation was important yeah people weren't allowed in hollywood there was this they had black exploitation so there's a reason for this because there were no black superheroes and the point of black panther is is a response to the fact that there were no black superheroes what if we casted a white wakanda it's like well that's

look you already got superman and batman that's what i can smooth my hand just like this and slap 70 white boys so i'm like black adam ain't even taking up for the culture anymore so what the fuck um so anyway i do want to sort of go down this thing too because there was another like so all this like psyop stuff came from like one tweet and then like other people were also saying online they're like basically saying that mindy kaling deliberately made velma suck so the culture war youtubers can make a million videos about it and boost seo yeah and you're like wow what yeah no this is like francesca my wife's favorite new conspiracy theory because because she's like, she's like doing deep dives into it. And she's like, I'm not saying it's true, but I'm saying it fits.

And I'm like, all right, I'll let you, you can have one. I mean, a lot of people have been like, yo, they say like Mindy Kaling, you know, she's secretly a right wing reactionary and like a transphobe, you know, because she recently liked a tweet from JKk rowling right about book sales and how she's doing fine and then also there was another thing where she said like you know you couldn't you couldn't make the office today or else it'd be canceled or whatever and it's like yeah she's every liberal in hollywood this is what all liberal i'm sorry but like this idea that she's anything more than a standard hollywood liberal who's just like who like rolls

her eyes at pretty much everything social justice behind doors but in front of everyone else yeah you know we'll wear the the pride flag we'll do this yeah you know we'll do all of the the signaling but in in general she's a probably a fine person but yeah she could recognize that certain things suck yeah and are terrible you know but like at the end of the day i'm gonna go have brunch in beverly hills right exactly at the end of the day she mostly thinks you kids need to calm down and that's every liberal in fucking hollywood they all they're all like that so it's not like wow this is a secret plan it's like no she's just they're like you think any of these people who are that wealthy are really they have their head

in the game and know what the stakes are no they're they live in a different world now i mean i saw i remember when her movie late night came out which is about this like woman of color being entering a like a white male comedy writer's room and i was like oh shit okay you might come with it man the lack of fucking biting commentary in that film was so disappointing i was like oh shit okay you might come with it man the lack of fucking biting commentary in that film was so disappointing i was like that's when i was like you know what i don't think you actually know i don't think you get it yeah and then and then i remember on black twitter over the weekend everyone's like how come all the characters in their shows like the women of color end up with these white guys that all look like bj novak in the end like every show why is that

always happening and i was like wow that's just her truth yeah i mean like that's just her truth but again i don't think it's necessarily nefarious she says no yes that's the world she lives in and that's what it is and i think to expect anything more or is like whatever you don't need to look that deep this is someone who's been wealthy for years yeah it's not it's not that deep and and she's not betraying you she just is what she that she's always been just a you know yeah center fairly center left fairly talented great writer yeah successful woman in hollywood yeah great right and look got got all her opportunities but i think again to go this because people really love all this shit i remember when like in the mindy project there was a joke about

like a gun permit or some shit and they're like look you see she's like a gun hopper like i just wonder like just in in all of this i i feel like this says so much about like what is the unthinkable for people like what's their cliff the cliff you jump off right so i feel like if if the idea of like okay you just can't accept that just maybe the show wasn't that good right maybe she just didn't do a good job at the role and it's just that simple like it's just why why is that unthinkable to you like that's just she just didn't do a good job or yeah or that like everything ain't no conspiracy that's just like she could just be washed and she could just be washed or just she might just be washed and she's she's we've already seen the peak of the what the content could be that simple you know i'm saying but like why does it's just

this whole but i just love that you know we ain't talk about we talk about uh you guys already talked about like like the papers that what's the name got biden got the uh classified documents yeah yeah it could just be like he oh yeah or like or just like oh damn i had a binder of 40 pages and then the last three were classified i just ain't look at all i just ain't do my homework i ain't look at all you know i'm saying so i it could be that's oh whoopsie daisy that mindy kaling is at a point in her career where she has so many different irons in the fire that she just kind of was like i don't know yeah good enough you know spread then i need a quick i'm gonna make a quick two million while i'm working on this other thing playing this role I'm working on Walmart gig

different fucking streaming services who want a new show and don't want to hire a new person of color yeah right with an old stand to help with their and I'm not gonna get

that check until 2025 so i just need this check now the other thing i'm gonna phone it in i think the other thing that people need to realize too is she's not even the fucking showrunner of this show right like this guy charlie grandy is she's she's listed as an executive producer and i don't know how much you know whatever what her involvement is because that's another thing you'd have to actually really delve into to understand how much influence she had, because yes, you can be an EP or like a showrunner is typically like an executive producer, but also for a talent that big, and she's also a voice actor, that's mostly her, her management and her agents like negotiating that title for her on the show. That's not a

thing to be like, and you're at the steering wheel. Yeah, right. It's how much money you get in on the back end. And also what it essentially means is how this show got sold. It's like, oh, we have been scaling attached. And I think people don't realize how little a shit people give

on some shows that they work on too, which is kind of wild from the outside. People are dead inside. I mean, I don't have people working on shows that win awards and they are fucking they're like man i can't wait to get the fuck up out of here man yeah bro you ain't the script the script ain't it's just like the the email comes in from your booking agent and you scroll down to when and how much right and you're like oh oh it's like it's like three months make this much i just show up on tuesdays and thursdays they don't go they don't go what's what's going to be the societal

impact of right and i think that's the other part of you the finished product before it goes out to make sure that it's optimized no there's only a few people who really are moving like that in the industry and yeah like you know about it anyway and i'm not i'm not here to cape for her or say that she did or didn't do this but i just love that a show like this was bad to the point that people are like this is intentional to fuck up a movement while others were like where the white people go i liked my show where people were dressed up as monsters under masks i'm like okay yo watch the old one yeah exactly there's still a syndicate watch the old one exactly but who knows uh with the

streaming services it might not even be available who the fuck knows anyway prop thank you so much for joining us on this wonderful friday episode yes every day if i could please please uh i might take you up on that eventually but um where can people find you and follow you, support you and all that? Yeah, man. Prop Hip Hop is all my socials and my website, prophiphop.com. You know, we got music. I just dropped a new record, which is our new song. And I got a cold brew, terraform cold brew.

Super delicious that Miles has already co-signed. Yeah. So prop hip hop. That's everything. It's thick, too. I really, I got to shake. You got to shake the can, too i gotta shake you gotta shake the can too you do gotta because you know i mean because when i'm like oh that's all the good bit at the end there you go that's the caffeine right there uh what's the tweet or other work of social media that you're enjoying yeah okay so this makes it better when you understand

the dude that tweeted this guy's named jonathan Merritt. He will use he's a journalist. He wrote for Atlantic and also for religious news services. This is where it gets crazy. So he's a he's from Georgia, Georgia Bulldog fan. OK, his dad is like a SBC, like Southern Baptist Convention pastor. He is queer and he lives in New York. So just lay all those intersections background now he's in new york so you got a you got a queer liberal man who's actually trained in southern theology

right right right right so from it yeah so this guy tweets and he quote tweets this guy tweets god is never portrayed or presented as being feminine from this book he read. So then Jonathan goes, never. Queer man, never. Except for when the writer of Deuteronomy describes God as a mother eagle hovering over her offspring. And except for in the book of Job, when Job speaks of God as having a womb and giving birth to the frost of heaven.

Never, except for in Psalms, when God is figured as a midwife attending to the frost of heaven. Never, except for in Psalms when God is figured as a midwife attending to the delivery of their children. Oh, and except for when Isaiah, when God is spoken of as a nursing mother. Oh, and never except for when Hosea images God as a mama bear gathering her lost cubs. Oh, and yes, when Jesus is described himself as a mother hen oh and the kicker when this guy says he was born again which means that to borrow from jesus he was born of the spirit spirit and since you can't tell these people that men can give birth only women can it means that god is spoken in feminine languages happy mother happy's Day. Happy Monday, I'm out.

There it is. It's Friday, too. We love that. I was like, yo! When you say I'm born again, that's feminine. Right, right, right. Yeah, he didn't come out the dick hole of the Savior or something. He didn't come out the dick hole of Jesus.

Y'all see it? Come on, now. I love that. But possibly we're all just like the kidney stones of jesus right right it could be it could be his rib yeah see and look that's where you come in with your like manosphere church well you know actually there are ways to pass things through anyway uh what about you matt where can people find you and follow you listen to you and what's the tweet you like oh bro so first of all i want to thank you guys thank you for having me on again very important on uh january 28th in san francisco if

you're going to be in san francisco or if you would like to fly there at 10 p.m we are doing a live pod yourself a gun which is my sopranos re Podcast for SF Sketch Fest. And our guest will be your very own Anna Hosny. Hey! Where's that at? What venue? Over at Piano Fight Theater. It's going to be really, really fun. It's our first ever live Pot Yourself a Gun show.

So we're very excited. We're pulling out all the stops. But yeah, we'd love for you guys to buy tickets. SFSketchetchfest.com, or just Google Pot Yourself a Gun SF Sketch Fest, and it'll take you to the page where you can buy tickets. Welcome this morning. Fantastic.

I mean, yeah. That's right. We would have been up there. It's really fun. And there's going to be, we're going to have clips. We're going to be talking about that terrible movie. Oh, get it all. Which I think was wonderful the many

saints of newark i think it was secretly a plot by david chase to say fuck you to all the fans of the sopranos damn oh so it was a psyop it was a psyop honestly that's my hey take that to your live show break yeah break down i'm gonna break down my uh this is a psyop movie uh because yeah right he always wanted to be a filmmaker and he ended up being you know creating the best tv show of all time but it was never enough for him and so he decided to make a movie just to piss off all of the uh intellectual fans of surprise i love that i will add this and i just saw anna pop up but i swear on mamas and my hood on the set, on everything that I was going to say this, that Anna's hilarious. Yeah.

So I could totally imagine like y'all on this thing together. I'm like, she. Go, go check her sub stack out. She has a sub stack right now. Homie is funny. Good God, she's funny. She's hilarious. We've had her on, you know, to talk about the Sopranos.

We had her on just recently for the Pod Yourself The Wire, which is now our The Wire Rewatch podcast. Yeah. And she's just, she's my favorite. And I was like, we need to book a guest. And she's right here. She's going to be in town. And so it ended up being perfect. It all works out.

So yeah. Get your tickets. We'll say January 28th at the piano fight bar. Yeah. January 28th, 10 PM. Piano fight theater. We hope you will be there.

It's truly going to be a good time. And you can find out more about it, you know, on the internet, but yeah, just anyways uh at matt on twitter uh at matt leap jokes on instagram here's a tweet that i love recently this is from kai comedy stand-up comedian uh he said dear white people in los angeles

not everything is a gunshot and the thing you heard definitely wasn't everything is a gunshot and the thing you heard definitely wasn't oh no no no no no no that's so funny facts it's so true i can't tell you the amount of people that i've run into who they hear like the slightest pump they go what do you think that was i I'm like, I think it's January 31st, and we live in L.A. I think, and look, I live in Boyle Heights. I live in East L.A. So I'm like, oh, you hear that, it's like, oh, it's lunchtime. So somebody on their lunch break. What's funny, I heard someone do that when it was just trash day.

I was like, that was a truck. Oh, yeah. That was a truck with a trash can. I'm not joking. I'm not joking. What do you think a gun sounds like? When I was living in North Hollywood My spot was back in an alley And these kids

They would do after school blow ups In the alley Like at 1pm And I'm like And I remember her mad She's like oh my god What's that? I'm like man

It's bored ass kids They got a bunch of M80s and shit I don't know They're doing their thing Yeah You'll know the cadence of firearms. That's great. Yeah, yeah.

Hopefully you won't have to. Listen, matter of fact, I'll add to that. If you don't hear the vroom right after, it wasn't a gunshot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're not just shooting pistols in the air for fun. Well, let's see. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesOfGrey, obviously, and the other podcast we got, Miles and Jack Got Matt Boosties, where we talk to NBA every week.

And also talking 90 Day Fiance on the other podcast for 20 Day Fiance. A tweet I like is from Dr. Ken at underscore Ken Mims D tweeted a scammer called today and said very quickly that he needed my social security number for the debt that I owe to the federal government. I told him it was 281-330-800-FO. And he hung up in my face. Oh, if Mike Jones up on the low, because Mike Jones got the blow. Because Mike Jones about to blow. If you don't work, you don't eat, you don't grind, and you don't shine. So the next time you come up to me and ask how I blew, put that on your mind.

Okay, Senator Mike Jones. Oh, Mike Jones. Woo. Back then, they didn't want me. Now I'm they're all on me wow look at you who is matt lee listen that's different he already established that earlier you different i'm different i enjoy rap yeah he can the 90s he'll spit the whole steel tip in everything even the first you know what i mean anyway so I just love. Any reference to the Mike Jones phone number, I'm just like.

Me too. It's like the Snooki note or like the note from Jersey Shore. It's definitely a litmus test as to do you get it or not. Oh, yeah. I'm judging. You're in a category. I'm like, oh, yeah. If you know 2813308004, then I had a fuck.

I remember when the album came out, they were like, my homie was like on the street team. And they had these like, remember those like black rubber, like Livestrong type bracelets everybody had back then. They had a Mike Jones one that was like all black, but it had two, a one, three,

three, eight, zero, zero, hit Mike Jones up on the low. And I was like, I remember thinking it was so cool. And the person I was dating at the time was like, what?

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