The Daily Zeitgeist - Right Wing Terror = Our Fault? Trump And Musk On A Bender 11.22.22

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

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Yeah. You'd think, you know, 11, 22, you add them together, you get 11 plus 11, get 22. Only one day. There's only one fucking day. This is, like, weird when there's only one day. But the one day that is on the pay-to-be-a-holiday calendar is National Cranberry Relish Day. Yes. Been hearing a lot of...

No. No? No. Okay. This is just my response to every... Ah, but do you have any thoughts? Oh, hell yeah. Thoughts on a cranberry relish?

I like cranberry sauce, but I don't believe that's cranberry relish. Doesn't it have to have pickles in it to be relish? No, no. I think it's just like... It's just cranberry sauce? Just the mashed up? Cranberry, but it's definitely fruitier. You can see the meat of the fruit, the flesh of it in this.

Sure. I prefer the jellied can shape, where you can see the ridges from the can. What do you eat that for? To contrast? Yeah, yeah. Just a little scoop in there to mix it up. Every time I've had it, it's like... where you can see the ridges from the can. What do you eat that for? To contrast? Like, just as a flavor? Yeah, yeah, just a little scoop in there to mix it up. Every time I've had it, it's like...

The judgment, Miles. It's not judgment. I just, I'm putting myself in that experience. You just spit on the floor. I'm like, no, I don't want to eat out of the blue cranberry. Nah, nah. Yeah, I like it. It's just, it adds a little contrast to the whole palette.

I like it. It's just a, it adds a little contrast to the old palette. We, we also do a like dessert dish right on the plate with the Thanksgiving fixings with sweet potato crunch, which I don't, it got in there as like a sweet potato, like mashed sweet potato casserole thing. Right. But I've just evolved it so that it's mostly like the crunch layer, which is just like this brown sugar, like crystallized brittle. Yeah. It's the sweetest thing on like that that I've ever had on any day. I can't believe Thanksgiving. And it comes out with the turkey, which I.

On the same plate? Yeah. I don't I don't mind it. All right. Yeah. To each their own. To each their own. To each their own. Yeah.

I'm a sick fuck, Miles. Yeah. What can you say? My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. This apple's 10% pink, 20% Smith, 15% my favorite apple,

Honey Crisp, 5% Fuji, 50% plain. I think they're sugar bees, but can't remember the name. That's courtesy of Fighter of the Nightman. Little remember the name.

Yeah. It's really a story about apples and my failing brain because I think I talked for 20 minutes about an apple that I couldn't remember the name of. It was sugar bee. Sugar bees are a new player has entered the chat or the And it's about an apple that I couldn't remember the name of. It was sugar bee. Sugar bees are sugar.

A new player has entered the chat. Okay. Or the game or whatever. It is sugar bees. They're fucking delicious on a good day. Also cherry apples, little tiny apples. This is their season and they're pretty delicious. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.

It's hard to believe that this restaurant's out there. It's hard to believe that I've never been. At least I have their love. T-D-Z, they love me. Hungry as I am, together we dineine and i just really want some cheese ma's not monterey get it hot and bubbling up on that crust today pepperoni slice for me i want it every day. Take me to the place I love. Red Hot CPK. Okay, shout out Blake Rogers.

Did I do that one last week? Did you do that one? I think I might have done that one last week. Oh, shit. It was good. It was good. Well, then allow me to do this one for you. If that wasn't enough. I'm going to pretend I did this one too.

Oh, guess what? Pineapple goes on every pizza. Breadsticks taste better with the cheese. Here's a slice of shrimp with teriyaki glaze. Chad Smith had a piece just the other day. Gift card is loaded with some Zocash. Rick Rubin's vegan. He's a hard pass.

Good friends, your taste is what we aim to please. Add on dates and go cheese further for Chantagne, please. Okay. Now that one was from the beating drum on discord yeah i did that one on tuesday man okay well allow me to get you with this one miles we are thrilled to be joined by a patient and brilliant filmmaker, writer, actor, comedian, podcaster who co-founded what the AV Club called one of the best podcast networks out there, Small Beans, where you can find he and a bunch of the most talented people we worked with at Cracked hosting shows. He's the host and creator of One-Upsmanship on this very network. It's the brilliant and talented Michael Swaim! Oh my goodness!

Hey gang, so great to be here again. I am Michael Swaim, a.k.a. I remember when, I remember when, I remember when I lost my Michael! There's something special about that Swaim!

That's after several months of singing lessons. Still not good. But I just joined TikTok and I was confronted with that run. That's good. It's the new running up that hill. Yeah. Wait, is it? Oh, did they just discover that song?

You're supposed to have your fingers on the pulse, guys. Yeah, no, no, no, no. This person did a specifically incredible run of I lost my mind. And it like sounds like a computer. But it's organic.

She really did it. And everyone's very impressed. That's all. I got three C words for you. First, Cosmic Crisp, the brand new apple.

That's the best apple out there. Cosmic Crisp? Cosmic Crisp is killing it. In fact, our local grocery store is now constantly out of the Cosmic Crisp. Wow. apple that's the best apple out there cosmic crisp cosmic crisp is killing it in fact uh our local grocery store is now constantly out of the cosmic crisp wow and it says there's a big sticker on it you know this is how it got me that says tastes like candy and boy it sure does oh

i don't know what kind of genetic monkey shines they got up to like i'm sure it's not healthy but it's a great apple and then comp compote. You left out compote. Yeah, there's jelly, there's gelé, there's mash, muddle. But I'm a fan of the compote like that. There's a crayon orange compote from Trader Joe's that's excellent. Oh, okay. So what's the difference between a compote, jellied log, and relish? Well, I watch a lot of competitive reality chef game shows,

so I've learned that very little. Like, I've learned that when you present the dish, part of it is bullshitting like you used to on high school essays. Like, I really think part of it is being very good at calling it a gelée and staying up with the new trendy lingo. Like a puree is now something else I forget. You're like, it's a consomme. And I think it's just words.

But I would say there are broad categories and they usually refer to like the viscosity. Miles had it right. It's the chunk. You see the meat of the nut or the chunk of the meat or whatever he said. Yeah, yeah. Meat of the fruit. But I think compote to me implies multiple it's cranberry and you got some orange in there a compote is when you

when you make a jelly do you also like boil it in like sugar water horse bones i do know jelly is like when like the can like solid and then jam is when there's still, yeah. Yeah, from my time of watching those cooking shows too, I think it's like when you have, when you're like cooking the whole fruits down in like sweet water. And then from there, like you can, I don't know who gives a shit.

This is a terrible cooking show. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, it has to be cooked in syrup to be a compote. That's why I like it. It tastes like candy yeah exactly i think we're i think we're seeing a trend here yeah i just like that marketing now for fruit is like man fuck the fruit part of it this shit tastes like candy and everyone's like oh great yeah that cosmic crisp is such a choice with the name i love it yeah the little circular sticker on it is a little galaxy, purple galaxy. It's very hype for an apple. I guess that's the only way I can say it.

Yeah. Cosmic. Yeah. It also suggests some psychedelia mixed in there. That's what I mean. They have a very specific vibe. Yeah. Yeah.

It's not your granddaddy's apple. It's a cross between the enterprise apple and the honey crisp so i think the enterprise is what's giving you the cosmic ah yeah is that real is that right yeah yeah yeah this is on cosmic crisp.com like the fucking lobbying site of the fruit itself wow i like to stand there at the apple aisle like it's a weed dispensary and just talk up and down the various strains. Right. This apple gives me a real body tank. I don't know.

What do apples give you? Yeah, I truly can talk about apples all day. Talk to the grocer. The jazz really had a strong opening and then hasn't really held on as much as I wanted to. Gala used to be my standby. Will you fuck with a gala? I do. They don't retain their crispness as much as the Honey gala used to be my standby will you fuck with a gallon i do uh they don't retain their crispness as quick as much as the honey crisp like i i have had some mealy gala before

whereas honey crisp are like you know 99 for 100 you know they're they're almost always crispy yeah whereas gala it's a little bit more of a crapshoot they're almost they're almost always really good though so i'm in a purple train wreck apples right now what's that no it's a little bit more of a crapshoot. They're almost always really good, though. I'm in a purple train wreck apples right now. What's that? It's just a weed strain. Yeah, I know. You're like, wait, hold on.

Nah, nah, what? Because that got my ears perked up. I was like, well, hold on. Well, you know, you smoke through a hollowed out apple, but people underestimate how important what kind of apple affects the weed as it goes through. And then you eat it after if you're a real fucking loser like we would in junior high. I do feel like, not Honeycrisp, Granny Smith would be because it feels like it's the densest, hardest apple. Would Granny Smith be the best apple to smoke out of?

And it already kind of, that flavor I find is adjacent to what lawn trimming smell like anyway. So you have the grass-grass synergy going on. Oh, interesting. Yeah. You don't want to, yeah. Just, it feels like a utility fruit. You know what I mean? It's a shit apple.

It's a just straight eat. Bad apple. Can we all agree? Yeah. It's not a great apple. It's a pie apple. Great pipe. Great pipe, terrible fruit.

That's right. All right, Michael, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about COP27. The outcome is a fund, which if you listen to yesterday's episode, you might have some idea of where I'm coming from on like, well, just solve it with finance. But we'll talk about that idea. We'll talk about another mass shooting in a gay club in Colorado Springs. And it seems politically motivated.

We don't know the details yet. The right is blaming whoever. But the cops fucked up again. They're not great at protecting people. But it doesn't seem like it's their job. And then I'm just going to do a quick review of a couple of camps that I've been going to. Yeah. Yeah.

Like a couple of episodes, there have been a guest host and a lot of people are like, where's Jack? Why is Jack not on this episode? Yeah. He should be in a camp of some kind. We should send him to a camp is what people are saying. But not that kind. No, no. I don't even know what you're implying.

I'm part of a project, a modern day night project. Oh, no. It's this camp that's like day night. It sounds like a paradox check. Yeah. K-N-I-G-H-T. But don't think the word plays accidental because, my friend, these are some smart and clever people who want to teach you how to be like a chimpanzee and not a bonobo. So they're like.

You know the difference, asshole? Don't bonobos fuck all the time? Just have sex all day. Isn't that super alpha male traditionally? No, actually it's not. The thing that's alpha male is turning on somebody who's been a lifelong friend and ripping their penis and face off. Get that face, gentlemen. Rip that face.

We'll also talk about Trump being back on Twitter, sort of. I don't know. We're all, let's go with fucked? We'll see. No real way to know, but maybe we'll get to that. Or he'll get sued by the people that he's trying to get truth, to take truth public with. They might sue him if he goes on Twitter.

It's such a weird situation. But before we get to any of that shit, Michael, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Oh, sure. I got three quick ones because I went back and back and back and there was nothing too spicy. But I do think it's telling if the goal is to get to know me, this is highly telling. But when we all thought and we still think and every day we think that, well, that's it for Twitter. That's the last today. It's hive. We're all going over to X place, but whatever. Well, the first day that was happening and I was like, it's going to shut off at midnight tonight, man. What's your final shout out into the void? So I searched kid chameleon box art. And if you haven't seen it, it's highly excellent. I was like, this is, this is really what I want to be remembered by. I was like, this is really what I want to be remembered by. And now I'm looking at it again at the top of my profile and I'm like, back tattoo? Maybe? It's really good. It's the coolest kid ever in a bunch of different forms, like cornucopying out at you. And it's just my favorite video game art of all time.

Was that a good game? I don't even really remember Kid Chameleon. Was that a good game i don't even really remember a kid chameleon was that a game yeah it was a genesis game and i loved it because it had something like 99 levels or something so when i was young enough that i you know could only afford one game for a year it actually lasted a year and i did not beat that game until my early 30s when my friend who used to play it with me when we were 11 11 came for a visit and we're like, let's beat the chameleon this week. And we did. And it was one of the highlights of my life, probably.

I think it's a great game. Very imaginative. It's no Mario, but it's good. And then the other one I'll bring up is I searched saddest song of all time. And that was actually for a sketch I put out. I was looking for examples of sad songs. But I find it very interesting.

Like the number one with a bullet is always Tears in Heaven. I get it. His son actually died. Feels like a gimme to me. Feels like you're sort of putting us over a musical barrel, Eric Clapton. You know what I mean? How do you vote against that i feel like sadder songs yeah what it's it's such a that's such a hard one to put your finger on

like the saddest song because like it's so unique to a person like totally i'll if god only knows what i'd be without you played over any photos like slideshow, I would cry. Wow. I don't know why. It's just weird. That feels like there's like a cheerful night or maybe I just like learned about it too late or something. And already, I think, I think I first like heard about that in my like twenties,

like about like, oh, that sounds was really good or no, I guess it must've been. Yeah. And it's not even because I'm like moved to it. It's like, usually like it's in a situation where like someone like it's at a funeral and then like they'll do that and then like it's all these like like that french horn

comes in and then it's like oh wow like they had this life and then it kind of like evolves like oh my god like it's just what they're going now yeah that that one i don't know why but that's but that's just like a weird one that i would never say is the saddest song but i've recently encountered it in the last like six years like a few times and i'm like oh this shit i don't know why it's fucking hitting me in my fucking i get it yeah can i give you my two real quick yeah yeah after much research ode to billy joe bobby gentry If you haven't heard that, it's about having accidentally getting pregnant in the deep south in the past and having to get rid of the baby by throwing it off a bridge. Very, very sad. No.

Jesus Christ. Beautiful song. And then. Shoot, I had it. I had it. No, not the fucking hold steady. Oh, yeah. yeah, yeah. I got to tell this story.

Sorry. So there's this Pink Floyd song called The Gunner's Dream that's about, I believe, what happened to Roger Waters' father in the war or someone in the war. It might not be as relative, but it's from the point of view of a dude getting shot out of a plane, but being alive and falling to the ground and thinking about like i'm gonna miss my kid i'm gonna miss my wife i wonder what this will be like i wonder what this will be like like the thoughts going through your head as you plummet to earth and die yeah that one's also very sad yeah yeah there's that one songs there's that one about like the space shuttle like the columbia like coming apart on reentry that's so dark but it's also like really beautiful gloomy sunday i was gonna go with gloomy sunday aka the hungarian

suicide song which was a song composed in 1933 and that like caused a mass wave of people taking their own lives so i gotta hear that oh I know, now you gotta hear it. No, I actually haven't. I've seen it ring. I'm good. That and So Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday by Boyz II Men. Yeah.

Although that one just reminds me too much of childhood. Yeah. I feel like that was also an early one I would hear at funerals too, like around that time that album came out and it's yeah yeah there's some songs that are sad but they you can tell the people writing them have access to their emotions and i don't feel as sad for them i'm like all right well you seem like you're feeling your emotions in a way like country songs i feel like are like, you know,

a lot of the times doing that. Whereas, yeah, there, there, there are some songs that just feel like, ah, man,

this and that. Like, yeah, I guess God only knows is like, I, I never feel like, I always feel like there's some subtext that Brian Wilson and the writers of those songs are not aware of.

Yeah, and for me, it's just more the context. Like, I feel like for Swain, if you're searching for the saddest song, it's because you're trying to pair it with, like, you're trying to assemble something, right? And, like, I'm thinking, like, when I've seen that song assembled with, like, a tribute thing, like, the second I hear it, I'm like, oh, fuck. Right.

Any song but this one. What's something you think is overrated, Michael? I think I may have said this before years ago on this podcast, but for different reasons. But I'm going to hit it again just in case. Maybe it's my destiny.

Free will. Like everyone, I know you rely on me for your video games information. One-upsmanship, folks. It's called one-upsmanship. I'm playing God of War Ragnarok like everyone, I know you rely on me for your video games information. One-upsmanship, folks. It's called one-upsmanship. I'm playing God of War Ragnarok like everyone is. I actually just finished it this morning without

any spoiling anything. It's about parenthood, obviously, but then the bee theme right under that is their free will or is everything preordained? Like, does the prophecy exist? Can we defy the prophecy? And I urge people prophecy exist? Can we defy the prophecy? And I urge people who are playing through it

to hold the story to account and just think about that question and what the thing is trying to say as you go through that game. Because it can't decide. And it almost treats it like a political or religious subject where it's like, well, we can't come down on, it keeps changing.

Like if you decode the message, it's like, yeah, there is free will, there isn't free will. Who knows? You killed the big boss. Let's get out of here. And here's some puzzles. But it did make me meditate on, we love the idea of choice so much, but I really think, especially since I've started meditating regularly, I'm much more in the vibe of let go, be like the stone in the stream or what have you. And to me, that does equate to, I want to try and convince myself that there is no free will

and really believe it. Because then it's all good, man. Like at that point, like I can trip over a dim sum cart in front of everyone and be like, you know, it is destined, so it shall be. Like nothing is my fault. I'm killing it. And you don't judge your own internal value based on, well, I did X things right today. I fucked up Y times. Let's do the math, which I tend to do. So I'm just deciding like whatever happens, happens.

That it was meant to be. Don't look at me. Like it's not my problem. It's not my purview. Yeah. I think that's definitely the mentally healthy way to be. Don't look at me. Like, it's not my problem. Yeah. It's not my purview. Yeah. I think that's definitely the mentally healthy way to be is to not focus too much on free will and just be like, this is, you know, this is what is happening. Yeah. Taoism, you know, a lot of different kind of spiritualities focus on that.

Yeah. And I don't know if it's unique to our time or Western culture, but. But we seem that like disgusts us in some way or we seem to have like, no, no, no. Freedom is very important that I'm in control of the car. Right. Yeah. I don't I have some association of that being like the right decision. And I'm falling off that. right decision and i'm falling off that yeah yeah i think america is built on like the idea of free will and that like it's all whatever you get you deserve it because you chose it because it's you know and therefore billionaires and rich people all deserve our undying respect because they deserve it yeah the accomplishment i'm the decider yeah yeah

you can rationalize also not doing shit for other people too if the concept is like well their choices led them to that space yeah and mine led me here and therefore like while that is tragic i don't need to be too consumed with what environment that person was operating in they're just like scoreboard look at the scoreboard and yeah there's like i think also when you have so much choice or you you bang that fucking like theme of freedom over and over and over again it's really about too it's just about the idea of like telling yourself you're not out of control because if you're able to say like no it's my freedom to do this this and this you're increasingly putting yourself like in this like you're framing your own existence in a way that's saying like oh because i'm able to

control many of these things that's why i rely on this thing of free will rather than you know the other thing that's like some shit you got to just throw your hands up and realize i'm out of control in this and i'm merely like existing in a situation trying to navigate it but yeah yeah control it man control your environment that's right old wisdom but super true truer the older i get yeah yeah we're gonna learn about how to control your environment use your free will by going to a camp that costs twenty thousand dollars for a weekend. What is something you think is underrated? Scheduling sex. Speaking of reaching middle age, I think we, yeah, my partner and I didn't have sex for some length of time that I guess I'm not even willing to disclose because it's so long. And we were like, you also get in your head equating it to expectations like, oh no, does that, and yet everything else in the relationship was like ideal.

And it's like, what does that mean? Is the spark dead or whatever we're supposed to be or have or do? And we came to a place where, no, it's like that first initial for us was like two to three years. But that phase where sex just organically happens constantly always abates and then there's no shame and like i'm very very busy doing a lot of shit so i want to tell people out there i want to spread the message that scheduled sex to keep the intimacy connection they're super useful tool and don't get hung up about like what does it mean that it's scheduled so i mean we're currently in disagreement about this a little bit. So we've been doing phenomenally scheduled precision sex.

The train's always running on time. For some time now, it's been going great. My partner last night was like, that is good. It's a useful tool. I think we should also start mixing in sometimes, what if it's a surprise or spontaneous? And my first impulse I got to say i was like nah like i'll see you sunday at 2 30 for 45 minutes of build 12 minutes of like core work 60 seconds to two minutes of refractory period the drill i am super routine based and i'm i love it now but i'll so now we're to try and be spontaneous again, too. Have you ever tried to be spontaneous? Like it's almost something that like even yeah me and being a long-term relationship like you always think about those things you're like well what the momentum of like being younger and hornier

with less responsibility like is something wrong with us and you're like no life is evolving and it's also about like you know when you're in a relationship that's like meant to last you look at those things and you navigate them together and you come up with things to address them. So yeah, rather than feeling guilty, it's like, no, you're trying to optimize things, you know, shout out protocols. Yeah, for sure. Again, it's the hung up on plans I made, like somewhere in the midst of puberty when I was constantly horny, I heard people older than me saying that actually wears off eventually life gets in the way like but it's fine and i thought no it's not fine in my relationship we will bone every day forever because that's how i'll know we're so in love more than those people but that's a plan i made when i was a horny like 16 year old

boy why would that be a viable plan in your mid-30s it makes no sense right a lot of couples therapists also like echo that this is a great tool to have so if you're if you feel like because i i also think that first of all like the more you know someone the more you're like deep into adult life spending a lot of time like you know doing bills and planning your lives together it's an i don't know it's just like it becomes the the momentum towards like that conversation it can be like awkward to like skip from this like very you know normal mundane to asking to have sex and then i feel like it can be a also an awkward conversation to ask to plan it but like it's definitely worth it and also if you need help asking to plan it

like there are plenty of resources out there that are like this is the cornerstone of like many healthy marriages so just be like i was reading this relationship book or you know go totally getting over that idea that it's that we though you can't do that though that ruins the magic it was huge yeah way better now the magic isn't spontaneously fucking all the time the magic is being connected to someone that you can communicate your needs to and navigate life together get that oxytocin however you need to yeah and or you know or just come up with a song that when you play it they know what time it is yeah god only knows exactly that french horn solo comes in you know

you get super too messed but you're also sobbing it's a weird scene it just it just i don't know babe just puts me in the right space you know like i'm thinking about how we're on this mortal plane and how transient everything is you know while also also like feel alive now. Yeah. Now, God, God only knows that I'd be without you. I mean, it's like it all makes sense. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back to top to top some quap to talk some. Salp scoop.

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an industry trade show yeah you know i think despite every scientist ever saying we need to phase out fossil fuels in order to, you know, make stabilize the climate on the planet. Yeah. The geniuses that lead this planet decided they're just that we didn't really get it. We didn't really come to anything on the phasing out stuff part. So no agreement was really made on that and this is when analysis is showing that like at best like the countries involved have collectively reduced emissions by like 0.3 percent based on their plans that they've like unveiled over like so you're like what the fuck is going on like this isn't y'all aren't even meeting your goals but so what is the deal here but again this shouldn't be a surprise when the like going into this like the eu uk us they've all been expanding fossil fuel extraction so it's not like

what they've in practice has been anything like remotely close to what needs to to happen i guess like the one quote unquote good thing that has come out was that the wealthier nations agreed to establish a loss and damage fund to support nations in the global south since they are experiencing the worst effects of climate change but this is like the bare minimum considering that most if not all of these countries are facing an omni-crisis of their own of like debt covid induced economic downturns on top of the existing inequality that these nations have faced so this is something that's been talked about for like over 30 years. So it's not like they just came up with this novel

concept. Many, many nations have been saying like, you guys are the ones creating all of the emissions, but we're dealing with the physical fallout of it. You need to come pay these bills. And they did, but don't hold your horses because they haven't actually defined what the amount would be in that fund, where the money comes from, what the process is going to be. That's still very opaque. And yeah, but that is. So it's like a syntax more than anything. They're just like paying for their sins.

It's not changing anything about how they pollute or anything. It's basically like, all right, fine. Can we burn all these fuck like all this dinosaur shit if we pay your fucking disaster bills wow kind of is what it's it's what it's netting out to and on top of it they're like we can also expand the carbon like offset market so people can buy like carbon like credits from other nations but that's again has nothing to do with it like the the easy thing which was just to go in a room and say okay how do we use less earth poison yeah ideas go you what

do you got okay what about you instead these capital brain fucking dickheads just only come up with a plan that's like requires spending money and i get that you could invest in other technologies but they literally went in there and they're like, I don't know how we're going to, how are we going to tell an industry, Hey, sorry, your product is rendering the planet unusable. We got to move on to something else. They couldn't do that. Yeah. It just feels like anything that requires them to hold the thought in their mind that economic growth at all costs equals like not always good like that any any anything like that dies immediately and so they have to you know bend it around so that it it is like growth driven

so that it's like a fund that they can watch grow and use to like invest in nations and you know that like they just need it to be put on their terms. Of course, the problem with this idea is the one that we covered on Monday's episode, I guess it was yesterday's episode, with effective altruism that the people who run these massive multibillion dollar funds will, of course, be finance people. And finance is inevitably tied into the world of fossil fuels and, you know, insidery, you know, business connections. And it's not going to run efficiently no matter what they say is going to happen in theory. I mean, and a lot of people are like, why don't you like cancel the massive debts you hold over these like developing nations that the Western world like uses as a control mechanism? Like that would be a first step if you're serious about

alleviating like the pressures on a nation to be able to deal with the climate and help their own people is to first be like yeah can you take that fucking boot off our neck of like these like loans that you walked us into to just you know begin to push further influence on like a nation's government and like that was one thing like lula from brazil he was out there being like oh what's up with all you countries talking about you were gonna give all this money you didn't even fucking come close like yeah he was one of the few sort of like leaders who was like like scolding people while all of this was happening but that was like that was one of like the the small bright spots throughout a whole thing which we've seen be described as just a trade show for fossil fuels i know they're linked but in some way it does seem

like they didn't necessarily have to like both both boots fall at the same time it's a super double double whammy for earth and humanity that we're doing like that america at least is doing late stage capitalism and figuring that out. And the climate change stuff is, the downslope is now, and it's happening more and more. Because it feels like we, I mean, ditto our healthcare system. It's sort of the same problem with our outlook is, it's all triage. It's never preventable. It's still, even if they did give the money or forgive the loans, it feels like your base assumption is still rather than, oh, my God, your nation got pounded by hurricanes or wildfires. How can we stop this from happening again in the future? It's

we will give you money to rebuild every year when that happens every year. That's not going to work out. That's not tenable in the long term. OK, what if we build a Tesla factory in our country? It's untenable in the long term. Okay, what if we build a Tesla factory in our country? Right. Yeah, we bring more jobs and it's like, the hurricanes, the problems, the hurricanes. Stop the hurricane fuel. Yeah.

Guess they're going to expect you to pay them back for building in the aftermath of those hurricanes and you're going to go into more debt. Right. And that's the least staged capitalism thing is, of course, everything's tied to the actual mandate, at least if you're a company with shareholders, that you legally have to always make profit, which is just like a fever dream. And we're trying to move. I believe that humanity has the capacity to move past both of those sticking points,

but it's a tough call to try and work them both out at once. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, because the one is just feeding the other one. And like you're saying, we're just at that point like it's this thing that you won't turn off that. Yeah. Just just fucking try and turn off a part of it for fuck's sake, please. And we know the consequences absolutely will get so severe that it even starts to threaten the infrastructures that support the very powerful and wealthy. And I'm sure they'll respond at some point.

But it's just a question of how much immeasurable damage will be done before they go. All right. All right. You're right. It sank all my yachts, stocks down line go down i guess we'll switch to alternate fuel sources now and then it's like 2079 or whatever yeah it's like what do you think of the other 65 people that are alive on earth right think about should we stop it damn nobody nobody even can cook our meals anymore it's like the cave in dr strange love like at the end of that movie i like they start talking all the people in the war room are like well fortunately we have this cave where a small number of humans will go and like just procreate i guess that's us you know is one

of you a doctor yeah one of you uh y'all know how to handle life cut off from everything and then you're fucking okay go ahead yeah they But that seems to be the strategy. Like all all of the like one percent hyper wealthy are talking about New Zealand. And, you know, that they're bunkers, that ethical or effective altruism, just like they're they're focused on long term problems and don't focus on climate change at all. And their justification is, well, New Zealand will probably survive. And it's just like with the- Fit a billion people on there?

Yeah, the unspoken part of that is like with us there because we're rich and have the means. And it like even goes back to one of the first stories we covered on this podcast was like this new trend in survivalism by like tech billionaires where they're all like getting lasik and like doing all these things in preparation for like everything crumbling like socially and civilizationally that they've just skipped past this to yeah but we're gonna be fine because we have billions of dollars right and then your money will be fucking useless in

the apocalypse and then they're like oh shit man they're gonna look like billy zane in titanic when they're like here my good man get me on one of these boats and they're like your money can't save you oh shit yeah it's it eventually does get to that point too where like money's even fucking useless even though you think you might be able to coerce somebody into helping you out and your rich guy end game but i think i think like i don't underestimate how much they can fix the game to make it so that they're all set they can go long long time yeah yeah i'm just imagining like new zealand as like coruscant all the money flows there it's all crypto. So it just exists in

there anyway. Who cares? Everyone gets to work remote and everyone's fucking dead. Right. That system will work for like 25 years and

then that will crumble. Yeah. But we'll all get to do that Hobbit walking tour. That'll be nice. That will be cool. They will.

And that'll be nice. They will. And they deserve it. Well, once a year we visit to bow to them. They will. And that'll be nice for them. Oh, they will. And they deserve it. Well, once a year we visit to bow to them. They need that validation. They keep being job creators. Yeah. See how bad things have gotten for us.

They only have one eye now. We all have to go get in line and say one nice thing to Elon each. Right. Just go through that. Good game. Good game. Good game. Sick hairline, my guy. You you're very funny sick hairline my guy you

really are very funny mr musk that a leader in meme technologies did you see that tweet from jordan peterson no what was it oh my god it was literally elon musk tweeted, somebody tweeted like a painting of a woman like showing her, you know, vagina to a saint. Wow. Yeah, I've seen that. And it was like Twitter over the vagina and like Trump is the saint praying and ignoring it. And Elon Musk retweeted that picture and was like, lead us not into temptation, which is like, okay, I guess. And Jordan Peterson responded to that and was like, you really are

very funny, Mr. Musk. Oh my God. What the fuck? You truly are the king of kings. The response I saw that I thought was interesting was someone tweeting that they were on board the whole time.

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think for most of us it's clear like this violence is like just coming on the heels of or not the i mean the the gop is like on a constant dehumanization campaign against the lgbtq community and like yeah you know the midterms is constant accusations of grooming or predators like or painting supportive parents as child abusers but of course like the very people that have been using their platforms to focus all of the hate towards this community are using all of their energy to act like they have nothing to do with this. Matt Walsh, who we talked about last week, lost it when he found out the US men's national

team would have a rainbow color spectrum in the U.S. men's national team would have like a rainbow like color spectrum in the World Cup crest. He said, quote, leftists are using a mass shooting to try and blackmail us into accepting the castration and sexualization of children. These people are just beyond evil. I've never felt more motivated to oppose everything they stand for with every fiber of my being despicable scumbags. Candace owens said something similar where it's basically they're they're trying to say they're trying to use this mass shooting for us to be less hateful essentially but they're using these really they're but they're completely obscuring it by saying like they want us to accept child abuse because of these shootings essentially usually you'll also

see like these arguments too too, from like the right that like it has to do with like woke district attorneys. But, you know, the problem here on top of the rampant homophobia on the right is also that the cops aren't even enforcing the kinds of laws that could have potentially prevented this kind of tragedy. Yeah. This was like the a town where they specifically refused to confiscate guns, right? Yeah, El Paso County, they call themselves a Second Amendment sanctuary county. They basically saying that, like, we believe in your right to bear arms. So if a red flag law, quote, infringes upon your inalienable rights, then they will take a pass.

your inalienable rights, then they will take a pass. And, you know, a year and a half ago, the shooter was like, he like threatened his own mother with a homemade bomb and the bomb squad came and the neighborhood had to be evacuated. And this guy's family and law enforcement didn't even seem to know or care about this trigger law. And, you know, which would have allowed the authorities to take his weapons and ammunition and i mean it can be debated like how effective that would have been because the time in which those things can be confiscated can be ranged from like two weeks to six months but it would have definitely alerted law enforcement to the fact they had a bomb making kidnapper that was armed and active in their community right and you like you put all these

things together the like the amount of just hateful rhetoric on the right disinterested law enforcement that can't even like actually look out for the community and you know we're just seeing just this kind of terrible fucking tragedy occur in a way that honestly feels like it you could have predicted it because of the amount of like just hate speech and like stochastic terrorism that's coming out of the right. Yeah. And it's, you know, they're going to a place that is, you know, a place that is supposed to be a safe space for, you know, gay people to, you know, feel safe and be with one another and friends. to feel safe and be with one another and friends, and they're invading that and murdering everyone. There's a really good thread from Dan Savage,

like kind of a call to arms. But it's, yeah, it is the natural, when we're seeing people talk about groomers and all this shit, this is the sort of thing that we said would would or could happen and it's just a very natural you know consequence of that shit the ap article about the shooting also mentioned that they had a mass shooting where three people were killed and eight wounded at a planned parenthood in colorado springs in 2015 And I had like totally forgotten about that. Like there was a terror attack in the same town.

Like it's just, that's how common, like there's such a fucking double standard between like right-wing violence and like right-wing terrorism and everything else. It's like that terrorism just gets ignored or like memory hold. And it still all seems to come down, or for me to start with some kind of

radical wealth distribution, or I hate to be like the Marxist on here, but disjoining from capitalism or the incentivized structure as it currently stands, only because now we exist in this, like there's always been room for disagreement among humans, Lord knows. But it feels like we've now reached this place, as has been said many times before, where

you can say it's so easy to shift the argument. Like, wow, what a simple but effective sleight of hand to go. No, no, no. I know our guy went and murdered people. We're still good and they're still bad. Our team's still right, because if he didn't murder people, that somehow would be endors an almost an advertising sense of like repeated saturation, getting that message out to your base, finding the fragments of people in the world

who tend to agree with your sentiment, collecting them all and telling them whatever you want to tell them until they go, I mean, they said it 50 times, it's got to be true until it becomes their worldview. And it seems to me the most potent tool

for that is social media. And you're like, okay, well, how's that going? Who's in charge of that? Oh, shit. The richest man on earth. So I really do think it all circles back to you got to get you can't have richest man on earth there. You know, I'm anti-billionaire is what it boils down to. But I think it all sort of pyramids out from there.

is what it boils down to, but I think it all sort of pyramids out from there. I cannot overstate, of course, how much I agree and how tragic it is, which is sadly almost pointless to say. I just want to add to the audience that I was known in the Cracked Riders room as something of a joke sniper, and we fully had the opportunity

to riff on Joe Rogan-style alpha males, but here we are instead. So, thanks. Yeah, I mean mean it's what's happening unfortunately i'm the real victim here yeah yeah yeah well i did well said yeah the i mean just to your point about like capitalism and like the capitalist sort of logic at being at the core of this is that there's also this is a the result of a massive industry that keeps on perpetuate keeps on selling guns and that the government it's it's probably the most the clearest way like climate i guess is also pretty clear but climate you also have like bp spending billions of dollars to be like we we're actually the climate, the climate

change company that wants to be green. So like, there's like confusing mixed messages, but like gun control and the fact that gun sales keep going up and up and up as it becomes clearer and clearer that we're the only country where this sort of shit happens on a regular basis and like the simple solution is to get rid of the guns like it's just so clear-cut there's no running away from that but they managed to just like kind of grit their teeth and right like globally everyone's addicted to oil right or some segment of the population but just ask australia they're like we had one of these we took all the guns away mate no more mass shootings right yeah i switched the cock it's a world cup right now yeah it's confusing but i think the other thing that i i didn't

realize a lot of people were pointing out was that that group uh focus on the family or whatever the fuck it's called can't be good yeah wait let me make sure yeah oh yeah it is focused on the family like they are one of the like wild like they're just out here you know like one of like the like original anti-lg lgbtq hate groups that is that the umbrella blocking the rainbow is that them it might i have no i i'm not i'm not up on my uh homophobic semiotics these days but a fresh new hate symbol yeah yeah but i am like but i mean in that group is like you know it's headquartered in colorado springs you know there's like it's just that these all of these things come together

it's not just that like you can keep being like oh i wonder if these are connected that this that for someone getting their news constantly and what the tone of that news is, these people aren't human, they're actually dangerous. And having like law enforcement that's like so NRA brained that they've bought the whole thing of like, we're a sanctuary community for gun humping, coming together and just creating more and more, you know, threat vectors for innocent people. It's just it's really hard to kind of watch. And yeah, I think to your point, Jack, there was that video of a guy talking about how he was at the club and how he's really mourning for his community because that was like the place where people in their community were able to congregate. And that's that's being just violently ripped away with attacks like this well speaking of social media trump is back has been invited back to twitter sort of he's probably gonna come back we don't know but it was just interesting to like watch the mainstream media response like

the atlantic had an article that opened by saying that like trump's back in a way that's far more important than him joining, like president, like running for president again, which I don't know. It definitely like him running for president definitely felt like inevitable. So maybe that announcement wasn't that surprising, but like far more important. See,

it feels like a, I don't know, like my, my biggest concern here is you know he will eventually start using this bullhorn again because i think he's incapable of doing that or incapable of not doing that he'll probably like screen cap truth social things and post them on twitter or whatever like to split the difference but i think the biggest danger is that the mainstream media and journalists from places like i don't know say the

atlantic all decide to start treating his tweets with the seriousness of like presidential decrees again like they did before it's they have to give the what the new york post did to him that said florida man makes announcement right when he and and I granted they're doing that for their own purposes. But like to get completely caught up again in his bullshit is I mean, I don't know. weird blunder that's occurred from their analysis. So I have a feeling a lot of people are like, oh, good. Now I can just talk. I can be on the, you know, Trump Twitter beat. Yeah. It doesn't make any intellectually rigorous sort of sense that we would start paying attention now that he's on Twitter. Like I can't imagine because like I think the argument would be, well, he has 88 million followers there, and that's more dangerous. But that assumes there was somebody who's going to see one of his tweets now and be like, oh, yeah, where'd that guy go?

He trunked, right? He used to tweet in my feed before, and then he went away, and now he's back. All right, I'm going gonna start listening to him again like it's it feels very much like it the only real reason for it would be the perception of it being more official because it's twitter and because that's where those journalists actually hang out right i mean i i definitely could see it being more impactful and like a very bad thing but i also feel like the mainstream media needs to like kind of recognize their complicity in that maybe not take it seriously not suddenly assign 40 journalists to the trump

twitter beat like once he starts tweeting again yeah He should wait a week and then just retweet the Covfefe tweet. What a time to redeploy that. Wow. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Or hamburger. It feels like it's also part of dunk culture or like, you know, Twitter is the world's biggest writer's room. And I wonder how what percentage of his followers are following because it's great material.

Like, I know, you know, our pal Cody Johnston, I'm sure, follows Trump and I'm sure doesn't like him. So there's a like we're all ingesting Trump tweets in order to. I mean, how often are you alive during the time that there's a historically anomalous buffoon, possibly worst president in the history of your entire country. And you're like, I'm alive now. And I am into satire. Or even if you're just a person who shitposts or dunks on Twitter and goes viral constantly for it, you're going to every it's funny because I can tie that right to the media where it's like, I know what I should do. I know what I should engage with and what I should just ignore. Right. But I could get a bump in ratings if I fuck with this toxic guy. Yeah.

And we'll even do that for nothing for the number of our Twitter likes to go up. So, of course, media people will do it for job security for another couple of years. Right. Like, I wouldn't say no to that Twitter beat. If I thought of myself as just, I'm a cog in a giant machine. I got to eat. I got to work. I got to live.

I think. Come on, Daily Zeitgeist. Let me live. I think for like for if the media does it or like, well, he has so many followers. It's like, well, then don't just breathlessly regurgitate what's being tweeted. Like then fucking address what it is. Like if you're going to learn anything anything then report on it and then dismantle whatever the argument or like bullshit is in these supposed tweets that are so important

because most of the time it's like can you believe he said that right yeah and what what's what else is your commentary beside being aghast like are you gonna inform people why what is said is so fucking off or not but it's funny too because just like with all of this, there's still the potential for some investor to get fucked by Trump coming back to Twitter. Because we talked about how they're trying to sell Truth Social, like take it public and be able to be like, hey, now you can you can buy stock in Truth Social, like in this whole fucking you know trump media and technology group well the special purpose acquisition company that they were teaming up with like a lot of people are saying like if that deal goes through and then trump goes to like is back on twitter like a lot of investors may feel duped because he said i'm never going back he's like i'm on truth baby and then if he goes back the people that invest might be

like hey motherfucker the whole appeal from truth was that you weren't going on twitter and then and then in the lawsuit that will be ignored will probably ensue but just like that even amongst all that there's still the potential for him to completely go back on his it's what he does it's always what he does He fucks people over in the world of business and gets away with it. And usually the people who just helped him out just now. He's such a quick betrayer. He does not bide his time for years. He gets that shit done.

Absolutely not. Also, I've seen some theories. There was somebody on TikTok talking very seriously about how Elon Musk is actually breaking Twitter on purpose and that this is all part of some grand scheme. Did you guys see that Robert Iger came back as the Disney CEO? I think these guys are all just addicts to like fame. It's not very original to say fame is a drug, but like they are just addicts. And like he,

Robert Iger retired a year ago, like made it on methadone for a year of just like having the occasional like feature written about him, but like not really in the, in the action, in the spotlight. And then he was like, nah, fuck it. And like, you know, basically killed his chosen successor to like and fired him to to take back the job he had just left. But yeah, like Elon Musk and Trump are just full blown addicts of that same drug and they're controlled by whatever's going to get them like the most of it and they're just doing the most fame cocaine that any human has ever done

and basically enabling each other it i mean i but i do see like when i when i when i think about what the value utility is of being gone, it serves the status quo. For sure. Like so that's why I think I just don't think it's intentional. I think I think it can and can't be. That's what sort of that's what makes it really insidious is on one hand, you can map all the like sort of billionaire egomaniac buffoon shit onto it. And then there's also like it smacks of like when those people like helped kanye run for president in 2020 where it's like he might not know but other people be like yo that's actually that's actually a good move like he might fuck that up but if that goes down we can a get rid of a massive tool that's been you know a thorn in a lot of sides of like

very autocratic regimes but also like break his hold on his companies too, that other companies would be like, yeah, see, cause if he fucks all that money up, like he, he might not be in control of Tesla as much as he'd like to be or SpaceX or these other things.

But I think that's why it's so hard to really get a handle on it because his actions absolutely like just reek of like, just this guy's bumbling and his ego is getting in the way. And it's like, ah, but the like the side effect of that is like, you know, I'm sure people are like, yeah, I wouldn't mind if Twitter was gone. Right. Yeah, there's definitely probably people, investors and people backing him. But I'm just, if you want to know what Elon Musk or Trump or like some other narcissistic, egomaniacal billionaire is going to do, just like figure out what the thing is

that is going to get them the most attention. And that's almost always going to be the answer. And it feels like it seems to be a theme that it's people who've internalized or that kid who grew up not understanding or somehow internalizing that it's fine. Good attention versus bad attention. Like bad attention is just as good. I got the attention.

Because every time anyone of note. So because fame respects fame as well. If you're addicted to that drug, you imbue it with meaning. So the few times right. Elon will respond. It's because like Stephen King dunked on him or someone notable dunked on him. Right.

And his response is always, I don't care, we have record engagement. You're all looking at me. Like that's enough for this old bear. And it's like, you know, the Holocaust had record global engagement. It's not good. I mean, their numbers were huge, though.

Yeah, but I do think Trump has the same thing where it's just get me those numbers. I need those big numbers. Yeah, because it's weird that he even says it like he's trying to prove that it's a healthy business. And record usage, too. It's like, yeah, but how are you paying the people to keep the website alive? Because everything you read as advertisers are like, no thanks forever. Yeah. So then he's like, well, joke's on you because even more people are posting racial slurs online than ever before.

So is this working correctly? All right. Like Michael mentioned, we're not going to get to the macho camps because I still have like a couple of things I want to try out. So I'm still, still doing my research. Some curls, some deadlifts.

You're going to come back and be like, all right, I was wrong. I was wrong. Fucking rules. I wasted. I made some friendships that are going to stand the test of time. I know that now I can say that now.

Michael, as always, such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Absolutely. Thanks so much. My treat, I'll skip Twitter so people can find, stay abreast of what we're doing, including if we end up moving our primary social presence over at patreon.com slash small beans. That's where you can find everything. We do occasional sketches.

We have a backlog of pretty decent videos, but for like the last three years, we primarily put out podcasts on a wide range of subjects. You can also find all of our non-exclusive podcasts on the free feed just by searching small beans wherever you get podcasts.

And as alluded to, I co-host a podcast with Mr. Adam Ganser about video games that we do weekly. That's called One Upsmanship. Yeah, yeah. One U-P-Smanship. One word. And that's a lot of fun.

Yeah, yeah. It's a great show. Small Beans is amazing. And Michael and Abe's sketches are some of the best in the business. So definitely go check all that out. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah, I'll do a closing tweet, last tweet ever that I'll ever like or see is the vibe I'm getting. But a friend in real life who has almost no followers, but I

think tweets funny stuff sometimes. So look out for Kelsey Hudgens at yonder wizard on Twitter, W-I-Z-Z-E-R-D, is getting out of the friend zone called bestiality. Nice. I thought that was a solid one. Bestiality. Yes, sir. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? At miles of gray, where they still respect the at symbol, wherever that may be.

You may find me there. Also check, uh, Jack and I out on miles and Jack got mad boosties. That's the number one, 100% top rated basketball podcast, uh, alongside the NBA and also for 20 day fiance.

If you like 90 day fiance, that's the other pod. Some tweets that I like are both aviation themed tweets that I like, because there's so much just nonsense that I'm like, I love the people that are just being like, yeah, this shit's all fucked up, but don't knock me off my purpose, which is just to tell you some weird stuff I saw in real life. The first one is from Alex Murdoch, at Alex G Murd, tweeted, I'm at airport security and the guy in front of me just discovered his ticket says JFK and bless his heart because we're at LaGuardia. That's like one of the, yeah, that's

a hard one to, I guess, accept. Laura Peak, at LauraPeak underscore tweeted, on my flight today, I woke up from a nap and an attendant was walking down the aisle holding a pug saying, we found this pug. Whose pug is this? And for three hours we all just took turns holding the mystery pug until a very stoned man in the last row woke up and was like roscoe

buddy two tweets i've been enjoying will need them tweeted When I'm at a friend's house, I say, Can you show me where you keep all the cards I've given you? And at Candy Flippin tweeted, There is no such thing as unlimited breadsticks. You will eventually die. That's a fact. The sun will envelop the earth and that's all the breadsticks you get.

That's right. Matt Novak also retweeted some of his favorite tweets of all time but it's a pretty good thread you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy?

Just some nice jazzy Japanese jazz from yesteryear. This is Suzuki Hiroshi and this track's called Dot Dot Dot Romance. And it's just like one of those old Japanese jazz tunes that a lot of hip hop artists I'm guessing

have probably sampled because that was a very popular genre to sample so check this one out Romance by Suzuki Hiroshi H-I-R-O-S-H-I I also wanted to read this one from Noah Garfinkel cut my meat into pieces you are my mom

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