The Daily Zeitgeist - Rightwing WEIRDNESS (with Kat Abu) 07.30.24

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

In episode 1716, Jack and Miles are joined by TikTok star & Video Creator at Mother Jones, Kat Abughazaleh AKA Kat Abu, to discuss…  Toxic Rightwing Punditry, The Right Doesn't Know How To Attack Kamala, JD Is An L, Gutfeld Got Bars? And More! LISTEN: Drifting by Night TapesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In the zoom. In the zoom. Zoom. Zoom, zoom, zoom. Zoom, zoom, zoom. Zoom, zoom, zoom. Zoom, zoom. I've got my mind made up.

The Nissan commercial from the early 90s. Zoom, zoom, zoom. Zoom, zoom, zoom. Zoom, zoom, zoom. Zoom, zoom. Love my Mazda. What's that Mazda? Mazda Proje. Blew it.

Yeah, isn't it? I always do this. I think I said Nissan like a fucking idiot. I was always so jealous of the little kid who whispered Zoom Zoom. When I was a child, I was like, he's got to be making so much fucking money. Oh my God. Killing it. Per whispered word. Zoom Zoom. I was like, when I was a child, I was like, he's got to be making so much fucking money. Oh, my God. Killing it. Per whispered word.

Yeah. Zoom, Zoom. That shit really is. It's the new, psst, I see dead people. Before that, the most iconic whisper was, Zoom, Zoom. Yeah. Just Zoom it, man. And then Haley Joel came in for us all.

For all us kids with giant heads. The Whisper song? Come on, man. And then Haley Joel came in for us all. For all us kids with giant heads. The Whisper song? Come on, man. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Hey, little mama, let me whisper in your ear. It's like, bro, what the fuck? That whole song is so fucked up.

Like, he's just like. It's important to realize that the first time that the woman that that song is focused on knows of his awareness is when he sneaks up behind her and whispers it in her ear. She doesn't see him until that moment. I think that's an important piece of context. Oh, yeah. This is a woman. She's like, oh, what the fuck? She's minding her business at the club.

And then this dude, this stinky dude comes up to you, spilling his Hennessy all over you like, hey, how you doing, little mama? Let me whisper in your ear. Tell you something that you might like when he says got a sexy ass body and your ass looks soft. Mind if I touch it just to see if it's soft. What? No, you are getting pepper sprayed at the bar,

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This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, July 30th, 2024. Happy 70th to my mom. Oh, your mom's turning 70? My dad's turning 70 this year. Really? Hey, 54 gang. Shout out to our very young parents.

Hey, boomers, y'all out here 1934 we see you what a year that's crazy i didn't realize i know i still think about those cookies when you're like yo my mom makes the best cookies and i was like best chocolate chip cookies and i'm not i'm not a person who says much with my chest out but i do say that with my chest out and uh i have yet to have somebody be like uh actually incorrect no they are not good they're good they were good they're good they're good they're very cakey yeah shout out shout out to your lovely mother also july 30th not only just the blessed birthday of your mother it's also national climb a mountain day national father-in-Law Day, National Cheesecake Day, and shout out

too short because it's also National Whistleblower Day. Oh, maybe different kind of whistleblower. But yeah, shout out the whistleblower. Shout out to people who see wrongdoing and blow the whistle and call out the fuckery. We need more people to be calling out the fuckery at every turn because that's how we You remember those innocent days where we could say someone was a whistleblower and then play the clip and not be worried that it was going to get a takedown notice yeah yeah that is that is one way ai and you know better computing has changed the world shout out to ai uh we can no longer play any clip without fear of takedown notice. Yeah. Anyways, you can always do shitty AKAs

because my singing is so bad that nobody will ever, no machine nor human will recognize what song is supposed to be impersonating. My name's Jack O'Brien, aka skibbity skibbity ya, skibbity ya, skibbity ya. Head in the toilet and I'll flush it away.

That's courtesy of Snarfala on the Discord. Just trying to get in with the fellow kids with some skibbity toilet references. You know, some stuff that I'm up on and in no way needed my

nine-year-old nephew to explain to me. But why the toilet? Uncle Jack, what the hell, man? The toilet taboo. Big, big taboo, you know? So it makes sense to me. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.

It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Glove out of my dreams. Glove into my couch. Shout out to La Caroni for that Billy Ocean. Yeah, J.D. Vance. The couch fuckery continues. You're not going to be able to dodge that one, J.D. We believe it when we see it.

Or we just don't like you enough that that's your new, that's how we're going to collectively pick on you. Prove it's not true, all right? Exactly. Exactly. Miles. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by somebody we've been trying to have on the show for a long time.

Thrilled to have them. A TikTok star, video creator at Mother Jones, who monitors conservative media for work and makes fun of conservative media for pleasure. It's Kat Abugazale! Boom! Kat! Kat Abugazale!

Let's go! Kat Abugazale in the building! Kat, thank you so much. I'm psyched to be here. I've been purposely ignoring all of y'all's requests. You really did drag me into this one i know dming you please screaming yes no no you're here you're here and also uh happy to have you

also contributing to the tail too right yeah yeah is that how you is it the tail the tail the tail the tail okay fantastic that's medhi hassan's uh new venture that's really dope doing some really great work with Prem Thakkar yeah how like just watching you like I was half the time I think for anybody who's like on political twitter like you're gonna run up on when you were just clipping out stuff for people to see like the nonsense that was happening and then like then your commentary videos came out it's really dope to see you just keep fucking climbing and uh augmenting the fact that you even remember when i was just doing clipping like i'm like tearing up a little bit oh yeah no no that's what i'm saying like your part i think again like for people who like unfortunately have their eyes bleed looking at twitter non-stop yeah what the fuck is going on

yeah you're like a like must follow person so like again it's nice just to see just to see the evolution and that you would you know lower yourself to even come on this show so we've been fans and also amazed at the mental capacity to do what you do because we we do some of it we look at we we take a glancing look at right-wing media like it's the sun you know like just okay that's great that's enough but you you've been able to just stare like a god into the sun and make sense of it all for all of us yeah my last job on night shift and media matters it was like a team of like eight of us and we were all so trauma bonded and like all of us had been at that job for years at that point and we had the same exact brain worms and it

was this type of camaraderie that you just you only get from watching sean hannity do the same monologue every time for three straight right right right like literally the same one two years in a row you've pointed out right oh yeah when, yeah. When he did his at the Patriot Awards, he did the same bit at the Patriot Awards verbatim. Yeah. Two years in a row and thought no one would notice. Unfortunately, I noticed. I hate that about myself. No, yeah.

Like, uh-uh, Sean. Not so fast. Yeah, you turned in this paper last time already. I remember this. Yes. All right. in this paper last time already. I remember this. Yes. All right. We're going to get into some of the things that you're noticing and ways that you understand the upcoming election that I feel like I did not until I watched your videos, all of that. But before we get into that, we do like

to get to know our guests a little bit better by you, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? So this morning, there's just like a sequence of searches that are like how to put harness on cat. Can I walk cat? Feline leukemia. Walking cat harness. F-E-L-D. Just like over and over again of like trying to find different Reddit search results. And? Yeah, I can give my cat a walk. She has feline leukemia. It's not actually leukemia.

It's a virus. It's really transmissible to other cats. She was in a special ward for almost two years at the shelter. She's a very rambunctious good girl. I just want to make sure she can go for a walk. Cat is very famous. Heater deserves to be yeah some call her tommy some call her timmy

your cat's name is tommy right some boomer i said so confident to it i love someone because in la the thing you get is people being like, I don't actually know your name. And that's kind of a power play. But the ultimate power play is to come in on someone strong and wrong. Tom A. Yep. You're thinking of the little raccoons from Animal Crossing. Like the little ones that are Tom Nook's nephews. There you go.

Equally cute. Wait, so can you? My partner, Her Majesty, tried to walk our cat once. Or we have two cats. Tried to take one of of them out and they were just like, what the like it was it was like dragging a cat on a rope is what that sort of ended up being for like four minutes and then we're like, let's go back inside. and so next week I'm going to be taking her on a plane and you have to walk through security with the cat out of the carrier like you have to hold it and then they swipe your hands for bomb stuff oh sure and you have to like make sure the cat is still in your grass so I want to make sure that I have a harness for at least that to like have a finger underneath yeah yeah yeah like got her got her loose in an airport would be really cute but it would be really annoying for

um oh yeah it would be like a diehard sequel, Oh yeah. It would be like a diehard sequel. Yeah. Yeah. Oh God. That'd be a great diehard sequel. Loose cat in the airport. That's exactly what diehard is. We all know this.

And you have been to Chicago, not in the summer. Just confirming. I went for the first time since I was 13 last month. And when I was 13, I was there for three days in December. In December, okay. And it was actually lovely. It was a really oddly lovely time.

It was my cousin's wedding. From what I've heard, it's great in the winter. I've only heard good things about Chicago winters. Makes sense. Chicago probably wants you to live there. Chicago people, when I i ask them they're like no you couldn't survive yeah i'm like yes i can they're like yeah maybe for a day dummy and i'm like but i did and it snowed on my head so excited about living there like every other city people

are like uh god blah blah and chicago people are like it's great it's awesome like i feel like it's a propaganda campaign yeah it's it's it hasn't always great it's awesome i feel like it's a propaganda campaign yeah it's it's it hasn't always been that way but i feel like recently chicago just gets raves from people who live there they're like yeah i live in chicago it's actually awesome i was like i didn't ask man i just asked where you know we know yeah yeah i think because it threads that needle of being like a metropolitan city and a little bit of a Midwestern feel at the same time. And it's affordable. It has a great balance.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Oh, man. Anyway, shout out Chicago. Shout out Chicago. Shout out heater. Shout out heater. You might need one of those in the winter.

Sorry, I'm just jealous. What is something you think is underrated, Kat? Vinegar. As a concept, I think we don't, Kat? Vinegar. As a concept, I think we don't give enough credit to vinegar. We have salt and vinegar chips. It gives us a pop. I don't like cucumbers in general,

so those types of pickles I'm not a fan of. But like pickling any other vegetable, you can't do it without vinegar. It's a great cleaning solution. It can get like pretty much anything off of anything. It can take any smell out. Once again, salt and vinegar chips.

I just don't think we give enough credit to vinegar. I love salt and vinegar chips. Did we decide that vinegar was a foodstuff and then spilled it on something and watched the dirt melt away? I wonder which came first. Oh, like who discovered it? melt away? I wonder which came first. Was it a cleaning solution that somebody dropped a potato chip in and then was like, I'm too hungry to not eat this thing?

I think it was someone being like, when you smell Sharpies and you're like, it smells kind of good. I think it was like that. Maybe. I guess it derives from the old French term meaning sour wine. Ooh, nevermind.

Okay. Well, fine. I love it. What are y'all's favorite chips? Uh, oh, salt. I love a good, like when there's a good salt and vinegar chip, I like regional chips, you know, whatever, like is like the local brand. I'm not like, I don't care what the flavor is.

Fascinating. Like you go to like, you know, like, like Louisiana, they eat zaps, like crawtakers. And those are like, I was like, yo, what the fuck? These are amazing. Oh, those are super good. But yeah, I like, I'm a big salt and vinegar person for sure. Yeah, me too. I like salt and vinegar.

I also like, like, you know, anything with a little bit of kick. Yeah. Are you, when you get salt, do you get fish and chips and then just douse the shit in vinegar? Are you talking about like, because right now I'm on a real like tin fish kick. Because like now if you've tried sardines on a salt and vinegar chip or anchovies on a salt and vinegar chip, if you really like vinegar and salt, it's amazing. Okay. Oh, wow. I just want to pitch that out.

Tin fish. Oysters, vinegar. Yeah. Yeah. Tin fish. Yeah, exactly. A good mignonette. You know, the red wine vinegar is essential. Sosters. Vinegar. Yeah. Exactly. A good mignonette. The red wine vinegar is essential.

So fascinating. So fancy. Not a girl mignon. Mignonette? No, it's not a girl mignon. Right. And I knew that. I was just clarifying for a minute. Google it really quick. Mignon. Oh, that ain't a mignon. I guess you could call it.

Damn, dude dude this restaurant sucks yeah just your mention of sharpie like that that is one of my favorite smells along with like tennis ball new car there's are are the somebody needs to create like an air freshener that sharpie scented because i feel like i i don't know that many people who openly admit to loving the smell of Sharpie. Are we talking about straight up black Sharpie? Yeah. Yeah. I love that smell.

I mean, it's got that funk to it. Yeah. It's got that. It's like it's like a nice cheese. You know what I mean? Where you're like, oh, and then you're like. Yeah. That hand sanitizer is like the cheese monger of third grade you know just like oh it's kind

of stinky but i kind of love it but it's kind of hits me you know part of my brain that i'm not used to maybe it's brain decay but i don't know yeah those are the accidental chemical compounds that for whatever reason i like want everything gasoline yeah gasoline is the one list after this of like, I don't know, someone that likes weird smells or someone that smells dangerous materials. Yeah.

They're like, hold on, tennis ball can and gasoline. Are you making like flaming tennis ball? Like, yeah, we did that too. Put some gasoline on the tennis ball

and then launch it, start a forest fire. Zach, I think we've got a new business idea. Yeah. Kat, do you like tennis ball smell? Because I know I'm not.

I do love tennis ball smell. Are we dogs? Yeah, I think we might be. I remember getting in trouble at a Big Five for popping open a tennis ball can when I was like four that we weren't buying.

But then my dad had to buy because I was just cracking it at the Big Five. I was like, you know what? Let me... And then I was just cracking it at the big five. I was like, you know what? Let me. Yep. And then I was up like Don Jr. on a Mar-a-Lago live stream. His Rumble show is just so good. It's my favorite show in the world.

Yeah, we're going to have to watch it. We watched it on yesterday's episode. I think we're going to have to watch it again. At least talk about that whole situation, sir. Sir. I have a specific clip if y'all are interested. Oh, yeah. Sir. I have a specific clip. If y'all are interested. Oh yeah.

Great. I wonder if it's the same clip. Yeah. Was it from the J.D. Vance live stream? Oh no. This is one from like a couple months ago. Where he's ranting about Fox News. And like it just gets. They're like.

They won't let me on anymore. And like. Just keeps going on and on. And it's extremely funny. Just like. And we're not talking about that. I will put. A link to this in the chat.

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Put that in there. What is something you think is overrated, Kat? I'm so glad you asked because this is very near and dear to my heart. The movie Forrest Gump. Okay. Not a good movie.

Tom Hanks is great in it. Like the performance is great. Yeah. It's not a good movie. People think it's good because boomers think it's good. And they only think it's good because they can point the screen and go. I know that. I was there.

I saw that. I remember that. Told Kennedy he has to pee. Do you know what the moral of Forrest Gump is? Oh, listen to authority. Yes. Yep.

And serve the military. And once you listen to authority yes yep and serve the military and once you listen to authority and never think for yourself and you will be a millionaire who has a child with the love of his life and has a super happy life if you question authority do drugs have sex support black liberation guess what you're gonna die of probably aids do we do we know what she died of yeah yeah well jenny had hiv yeah yeah okay yeah yeah that is the consequence yeah and yeah the jack you always do bring up the the emptiness of the reference like how the black representation yeah the whole scene in washington dc where where he gets off the bus and there's just a bunch of lines aimlessly walking around. This is like Robert Zemeckis' vision of activism. It's just lines walking. know i was a child and then like i re-watched it we did a episode of after hours about it and i was like this will be one of the points on after hours that i write about and i ended up writing like

the longest episode of hours ever just about forest gump that that was a cracked video show back in the day and it yeah the specifically the dc stuff about like hippie activists but then there's a scene where they're in the black panther like in a black panther headquarters and he's so uncomfortable a black panther is like ranting at him and then he sees jenny's boyfriend pusher on the other side of the room and he runs towards jenny's boyfriend to like go punch him and the black panther keeps ranting at the empty space that he just was in as if he was like a anger automaton right and like that i think is like the most telling weird little detail of like the absence of thought that robert zemeckis and like boomers in general like give

to these things like how they've treated liberation movements since they happened in the 60s is just as like hood ornaments for like advertising you know like just like yes things that they can use as empty gestures and like co-opt to sell fucking printers or whatever you know like i feel like there's damn this is really insightful yeah like it's it was bond yeah there there are it's worth it is both bad and worth a closer look because there's just so much shit in it that it's not a good movie like it's structurally it's him being like i wiped my face while walking a bunch and there was a smiley face here that's like we didn't need that we didn't need forrest gump inventing the smiley face no we didn't need like any of that movie also after bubba dies like

they barely mention him like they name the company after him his family gets money that's cool but like i'm not sure if he's mentioned again after that maybe like once or twice but he is supposedly like the most influential person in forest life and he never comes up again yeah yeah and capitalism ultimately is a form of karma that all that like pays people in in line with like how good they are also like in that movie oh right he just you know he believes in god and then god repays him by like giving him a bunch of apple stock that he then gives to bubba yeah but also like touching on what's his face to um gary's nice sorry yeah i have their finances wrong but so he starts a company with Gary Sinise and

Bubba's estate has a part of it and that's when they strike it rich because a hurricane wipes out the other shrimp fishermen. And you know Lieutenant Dan is over his racism against Vietnamese people and his trauma because he's down

to bang a Vietnamese woman. Exactly. It's called growth. against Vietnamese people and his trauma because he's down to bang a Vietnamese woman. Exactly. Which shows... That's called growth. Thank you. Yeah, it's called growth. Yeah, we love to see it. I agree, I agree.

I always loved the allusion that he made to Apollo 13 by saying his legs are the same things that were on the space shuttle. I was like, this guy's in Apollo 13. Is this a reference? And I'm like, even though they're not... I remember that was like my weird kid brain. Yeah, Force Gun came out before Apollo 13.'t, I remember that was like my weird brain. Yeah.

Forrest Gump came out before Apollo 13. So yeah. Oh, I love this conspiracy theory. It's canon in my head now. That's the only good part of this movie. Why would he talk about all of you before Apollo 13? But yeah,

you know, I, the Illuminati saw that shit way before. Oh, producer Victor said he went to space in the book. There's a book. Yeah. Oh yeah. There's a book. Oh no. And the author a novel. Oh yeah, there's a book.

And the author hated the book so much, he wrote A Forrest Gump 2 and it's like complete dog shit. So that way they couldn't adapt it. Yeah. But then they were going to adapt it, A Forrest Gump 2. The script was written. They were having one of their first production meetings on September 12th, 2001 2001 it was scheduled for and

they like went to the meeting and they were like so we can't do this right like we just can't do it because otherwise people are gonna be like wait so when does 9-11 happen but the script had him in the back seat of the white bronco during the bronco chase that That's right. Yeah. Yeah. So how he became OJ's friend. Who knows? Yeah. He's just there. He like follows it, chases a butterfly into the back of the Bronco and he's like trapped in there. It's like, oh, I was just looking for a butterfly.

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We're back. And we're back. Ooh, a barbershop quartet. I don't know why I called it the upcoming election. The election is happening. We're in the final. We're in the home stretch. 98 days out when you hear this.

For an American election. Yeah. For a UK election. We're like saying upcoming to make it feel like it's still far down the road and we can just exist in this weird fucked up liminal space yeah until we figure out what's happening but like cat obviously you have had your eyes on right-wing punditry for a very long time and just like over the last week you know like a week has passed since kamala was became the presumptive nominee biden stepped down that's fucking crazy by the way it's like i i know this is like an old thing where people are like

it's only been a week like it feels like a year but that's crazy that biden was the presumptive nominee like eight days ago as of this recording sure yeah on saturday the debate was a month ago like a month from saturday right right that's how long it has been we had an assassination attempt jd vance rnc right this stupid bubble on my zoom that's popping up yeah and then it's just like yeah that's right and that is true we want to thumbs up that but i was curious like jd vance like it seems like we've known for decades that he wants to fuck out oh yeah and he's just generally so sucky as a person but i think broadly like what's your read on right-wing punditry and the current state of like how they're contending

with the switch up of opponents because prior to the switch it felt like they were fucking spiking the football at the rnc they're like baby we got the old guy and they can't say our guys old because they cancel each other out. But we'll continue to be like, this man is old and decrepit. But now it's like feels like pure frustration, but like it's masked in this other weird cockiness slash hatred, which they know how to do well. But what's your sort of read on kind of how they're dealing with the change in opponents and strategy? They're so mad. They're just like that drill tweet. That's like, don't tell, don't put in the paper that I'm mad.

Right. They're so fucking mad. It's insane. The thing that like, it's hard for me to wrap my head around is the right is so good at playing the long game. That's why we don't, you know, have row anymore. They're so good at playing the long game. That's why we don't, you know, have Roe anymore. They're so good at playing the long game. And no one really thought

that Kamala could be the nominee. Like, they even joked about it all the time. Like, what if Biden dies? Blah, blah, blah. I've heard Hannity bring that up. But it's always like they tag in Newsom

or Michelle Obama, despite Michelle Obama always being like, no, I will never do this. Never, yeah. It's their worst nightmare. And she keeps telling them it will never happen.

And they still don't believe her. But it feels like none of them, like the real, you know, voices in the Republican Party actually thought this was a possibility that would genuinely happen. I think they thought they were going to run against Joe. And I mean, I honestly didn't think Joe Biden would step down. And I got a lot of shit for advocating for that for a straight up month. Yeah. And then like, yeah, why do you hate America and love Trump? This is true.

This is true. Sorry, Miles had a question. That was my next question. Why do you hate America and love Trump? That was my question. Yeah, you did say you love Trump. As a Palestinian woman who works in disinformation, I want Trump to be president. I'm really excited to yeah and that

makes to marry one of his cabinet members at gunpoint i'm super excited about that but yeah so they're they're really mad and there's i've talked a lot about this in the last like two three weeks um even before she was the nominee but they don't know how to attack her you can't do the same exact shit you did with Hillary because there's no foundation. With Hillary Clinton, you had like 20, 30 years of making this woman the most evil person on the planet. If you believe Alex Jones, she has killed like 600 people with her bare hands. The most prolific serial killer in America. The most prolific serial killer like yeah cracking you know necks and just drinking baby blood yeah she just goes up behind people turns their head to the side and goes

like a fucking soda cap and then just drinks their spine yes but that's you know that's what she was and even to the people that didn't believe those conspiracy theories she was like this gigantic bitch she was like this frigid bitch tucker used to say on msnbc all the time he'd be like every time i see her i cross my legs because like to like protect his balls which is weird yeah sorry they had yeah what world do you live in tucker where if you don't do that what happens when you don't do that what happens when you don't do that and you have like people asking would be like, so do you still cross your legs when you hear Hillary Clinton's name? And you'd be like, ha ha ha, yes I do.

It was such a weird time. But they had, you know, all of this villainization for so long and it worked. And, you know, it wasn't like she was the most popular candidate. And there was, you know, the sense of entitlement. There was a lot going on. There was a lack of campaigning but in terms of the misogynist magic that they worked back then it doesn't quite translate to kamala harris because for the last four years they've been condescending to her which is like really fun if you want to make yourself feel like a big strong man but like not super effective for creating a narrative that

permeates the entire culture right so they've been making fun of her laugh and talking about like that school bus thing and saying like she can't put a sentence together loves and then of course like the racist and sexist stuff yeah but like it's that's the best they've got you know they call her radical and marxist and a socialist and like god i wish right yeah i know trump had that attack where he just like went off but she's the biggest socialist america no america could not have like a social and i was just like god could you imagine like if i wish democrats were the way that republicans right right right exactly sorry i mean interrupt you jack no no that's that's all all i had was

just the agreeing and saying like yeah trump really really laid out a version of Kamala Harris that I could get behind. That's my president. That's my president right there. But they have all these things. They talk about how she's a border czar, but I feel like for the most part, the fact checks have been consistent on that's a title

that right-wing media made up. Even on Fox, you had some contributors having to correct hosts being like, oh, that's a title that right-wing media made up right even on fox you had some contributors having to correct hosts being like oh that's the title we made up um she wasn't like she was you know appointed to be you know focusing on migration issues in 2021 but that title borders are is not something that exists and also that's homeland security it deals with it anyways so they just ended up putting themselves in this corner where they're saying, just throwing anything at the wall and seeing what sticks

and it's making them extremely unlikable, like even more unlikable, which I didn't think was possible. Yeah. Calling her the DEI candidate seemed to be the first coherent strategy. And then it seems like they've now come back and said, don't do a racism, maybe, on that one.

Yeah, they were like, wow, you could sub in the N-word and it would still get the same vibe. Yeah. A lot of America doesn't like that anymore. People are hating that. Some do, but most are like, what the fuck is this? Gross. Yeah, it was smart. In one of your videos, you were talking about how this is basically just the Southern strategy all over again.

And that's what they've been doing, especially since the rise of Trump. But, you know, the Southern strategy was Nixon's strategy to just, you know, basically be racist in words that haven't officially been deemed racist yet. Like racist in words that make your racist voters feel okay about being racist just doing some we're just auditioning some dog whistles right now yeah yeah just trying some out seeing what fits yeah it's like a tuning session of dog whistles and like it goes back the other way too like in terms of the southern strategy you need to have instead of saying the n-word which is what lee outwater a strategist famously said over and over He was like, you couldn't say the N-word, so instead you said states' rights or forced busing.

And that's, dog whistles have, you know, been around as long as politics, but they've become especially prominent since then. But you also have it the other way, like talking about Judeo-Christian values, you don't need the, they mean white. They always mean white. Like if you just put white where that is, that's what they mean. And that's how the Republican party even remains relevant because you do have some people, you know, I grew up conservative where it's like, well, that doesn't

mean white. Like I care about my faith. So like that obviously means my faith. And then you have people that, you know, know what it means and they're happy about it. Yeah. They, their lack of being able to like, to your point, like articulate what she is or isn't. I mean, when you, when you said you're going to come on, I was like, okay, can you hit us with some clips that you feel kind of encapsulate sort of the, just the grasping, just the swiping it, just thin air that they're trying to, you know, formulate attacks on that we can talk about. This first one that you sent over was from Mark Levin. And he is talking about, I don't, again, his understanding of history is not great, I would say, based on how

he is trying to describe her. But this is just one of the many attacks we've heard that again, like you also made the point, you're like, we've all heard the racist, misogynistic stuff. Like what about some other failures to formulate any kind of like line of attack? So let's check this one out. Equity is the end game. That's about dehumanizing the individual. This is what totalitarian regimes do. Equity. We got to get to the end game. Everybody's the same. That's the Khmer Rouge.

That is Mao. That is sick. So I want you to listen to this. This is Kamala Harris explaining her totalitarian ideology, which is pure Marxism. Not from me, from her.

Go. It has to be about a goal of saying everybody should end up in the same place. And since we didn't start in the same place, some folks might need more. Equitable distribution. But we also need to fight for equity, understanding not everyone starts out at the same place.

So there's a big difference between equality and equity. Equality suggests often everybody should get the same thing that's not what equality means thank you mark can i just show my privilege here for a second and let you know that i didn't i've never seen that man before in my life, Mark Levin. I love this for you. I love this for you. I cannot... He sounds like an evil Gilbert Gottfried. He is the most intolerable person on Fox News.

When he comes on Hannity's show, Hannity just gives him five minutes to scream. And it's awful. Anyone that Hannity calls the great mark live in like no yeah yeah yeah is there andy rooney he but it's just it's super wild just again that their line of attack is to go after the very concept of equality and try and put it through their fox funhouse mirror and be like equality is actually totalitarianism, which is not what we're trying to do. We are, we are, but that's not, that's what they're trying. They have their version too. That should be scary. And it's called equitable treatment of people or

being able to address inequality and address that. Now, I'm not sure entirely that, you know, her presidency would go after such a thing you know in a way that felt truly tangible but at the same time that is a concept that would unite people because it is a huge issue yeah we have such just deep-seated inequality in the country that yeah that feels like something that could be done that helps all people but again they're just the projection is really it's uh. Those are very highly selected pull quotes. Like they're like, this is the wildest shit we could find to make her seem completely out there. And it's just like, I think equity would be neat for people.

And how dare you? First off. Yeah, sorry. We all know rights are a zero sum game. That's right. Right. We're know rights are a zero sum game. That's right. Right. We're all aware of this. But also like equity has been a scary word on Fox News for the last four years.

They love talking about equity. They're like equality is great, but equity is bad. And sometimes they get them mixed up, which is very silly. Yeah. But yeah, that's definitely a big thing they love talking about. Yeah. Yeah. He only I'm sure if we let him go further, he would have gotten real racist.

But first, he wanted to give a quick lesson to try and bring a bit of like negative charge to the word equity to try and, you know, inoculate the viewers. But yeah, he's really cool. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we're hanging out later. I got I got some some abraham lincoln sketches i want to sell him that i think he'll like so that he can hang out with his office the other one i don't this might be just the southern strategy if we add misogyny into the southern strategy which i think we probably can but criticizing her for smiling too much or too widely like having too big a smile yeah seems to be the the goal here i don't mean to sound at all sexist all right but i think a man could not

smile like that can you imagine then he's doing joker smile big men don't do that and not all women do that anyway sorry but that's the way i feel thank you greg wow that is also exactly to your point that is exactly i'm sure you could just pull 50 different moments of him smiling like that on fox news and like building a career show any time like when trump did the state of the union and he walks through the like the chambers and all the all the people on the right are trying to shake his hands like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Notice me, Trump. It's yeah, it's it's very much apparent. But again, that's also a very interesting one. Like it felt it feels very Hillary esque. This feels like they're trying something from the Hillary

playbook. And like, yeah, that one's not quite sticking either, huh? Yeah, they spent the last four years making fun of her laugh. This one, you know it's greg kelly he's on newsmax which is like fox news but with lower production value and like fewer censors but they're really just trying whatever they're like men don't smile and you don't want a president that smiles do you yeah because if they did what would that mean they would mean they're a pussy yeah dude they ain't no guy gay yeah they're a pussy. Yeah, dude. They might be gay. Yeah, they're gay. They smile. All right. English or Spanish?

What? Why are you doing that on the debate stage? You want a president who's tough and dances like this to YMCA, like he's jacking two people off. Yeah, that's the one we want. That's the straightest shit I've seen in my life. Yes. Just rigid arm pumping? Yeah.

No, for sure. You're like, I'm not going to. I don't have honey in my hips that would be a little too effeminate for me yeah the most rigid hips like that is the one thing that they will not want men that can dance we hate men that can dance yeah famously famously it means nothing we're like oh gross yeah the least attractive thing is a man who can bend at the hips that is what what's i don't That is what's going on with that guy. I want to throw up.

Get it out of here. I do want to... I don't know if this is going to be a coherent strategy on their part, but there were two things from last weekend that are a little alarming that we covered on yesterday's episode. And I'm just curious to get your thoughts on as someone who understands them or has seen the fox whisperer. The fox whisperer. I didn't want to say it, but you're the fox whisperer. Yeah, I regret it.

So Trump said last week that in four years, the supporters won't have to vote, basically, like specifically Christians. He's like, just vote this time. Four years, we'll have everything that's coming. Get ready to fight. Both statements that could be read in a very violently authoritarian direction. And I'm just curious, because I do think in much the way that in his first election, there was a lot of confusion over how is he getting more popular after saying these horrifying things? And then we eventually realized, oh, the cruelty is the point. I think in some ways, the authoritarianism and the fascism is the point this time around. He is running at least partially on the fact that he wished he could have overturned the last election. And I think a lot of his

supporters wished he could have. And I'm just wondering if you think that will become more and more like a thing that they at least gesture towards or if they're going to keep kind of if he's going to keep being like Project 2025, never heard of it. We're good here, you know, until he actually wins and then we're fucked oh yeah i mean absolutely he's gonna keep going with the authoritarian shtick and i'm not even sure it's because like i don't think trump you know has a cogent political philosophy even when it comes to his own authoritarianism i think he's just really mad that he didn't get to be president again and do all of his insane stuff to keep being president and so this time around he's

just like he doesn't have any guardrails he's you know this season's homelander he's just acting erratic and not even doing like the minimal amount of thinking that he would do you know it was interesting that he tried to distance himself from project 2025 but he's taken no steps to distance himself from the heritage foundation and i think that the harris campaign you know it's only been a week so knock on wood they keep going this way but like the way that they have been responding of continuing to hit on this and to mention it and also present it in a way that's like kind of fun like these people are weird i think it's really important for the last two elections the democrats their entire thing was

we are saving democracy if you don't vote for us everything will be horrible which like true but also people want to vote for something yes and it also allows you to get away with like not delivering i mean joe biden didn't deliver on a bunch of his campaign promises because his whole thing was like well i want to beat donald trump you know he said he caught a fire row and do voting legislation and he didn't do either of those things because joe mansion uh when the republican party would be able to pressure their own caucus like that no problem yeah and so you don't have to deliver on much if you're just delivering on saving democracy and people get tired of being scared all the time. And when you're scared all the time, authoritarianism can sound really good depending on who you are, because you want crime wave or whatever other bullshit thing you're being attacked with non-stop you might want someone that talks like trump does where you're like i

don't need to think about this anymore i don't have to vote anymore i don't have to worry about you know kamala harris or aoc being president anymore because this man is going to take care of it and there's no way that could backfire on me right right there's even like yeah it like it resonates with some people i think that this way of attacking it of like yes it's super dangerous we don't like it not cool but also being like it's fucking weird to want to restrict women's movement from state to state federally yeah is the way to go because it makes us be like yeah that that is fucking weird why yeah why would we want our elected officials to do that like why what are they actually promising yeah yeah i'm i'm really surprised how well the weird line of attack has

taken hold like in in a way that feels like it does roll off the tongue too because again they've been they've been described accurately as many other things like you know misogynists racists uh ethno-nationalists like you name it and but again just summing it up is like weird while it does take a lot of the sting out of the severity of what they believe i feel like it just connects with more people to be like yes yeah who the fuck is talking about a Christian takeover? That shit is weird. Those words all sound like homework. You know? It's like, that's not national. Fuck you.

What are you making me learn, asshole? Weird or not! The distillation of that into weird is pretty compelling. I mean, people in disinformation, like me and my colleagues, my old boss, Andrew Lawrence, has been saying this for years we've been like please just like change your campaign strategy to be like look at these freaks they want to check your child's genitals when they

go into a locker room and like stop them from eating lunch yes it's like it's like when you have a guy at a party who's being like a huge dick and you can either fight him or like be really pissed off at him and then especially if you're a woman he'll like you know try to condescend to you or when he tries to you know push in you can just be like okay and then ignore him yeah and not actually ignore him because we're running an election here but yeah you're not giving them the response they want and it's really pissing them off. Yeah. Because you're like, no, I prefer to fight on this battleground, which is not whether or not people are using litter boxes in a classroom. I'm over here saying you're fucking weird, dude. Yes.

What is that? Democrats are finally fighting on their own turf rather than immediately capitulating to whatever the right is saying is true. And that's not all Democrats. And this has been one week. They are famously good at messing things up. But this messaging is, and things that come off of it, of like, let's, do we really want to live in a society where like, we're trying to get rid of free weather reports?

Like, why are we doing this? Which is in Project 2025 is you know more it hits harder for the average american yeah exactly when you're like no fault divorces what the what's wrong with y'all weird that's it kind of makes it fun you know like 2020 was a real drag of an election and this time we're like haha y'all are weird y'all are weird and if you didn't fuck a couch you have the couch fuckingest energy of anyone and we didn't know that was a thing a week ago believe it if someone told me but i think also the guy said your shoes are too big and but to your point about them fucking uh fucking things up i heard she is considering for her vp pick vp pick also jd vance to really like fuck with trump so yeah but no like i think you know when

you like we were talking that you know hearing just donald trump jr like when he did his live from mar-a-lago shit talking to jd vance recently like it's pretty remarkable like this guy is flying off of the confidence of being don Trump Jr. or some other shit. I don't know. I think he must have been meditating and just... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's using headspace. I actually have a fun present

for y'all about this. Okay, what? I actually, I talked about this on Terminally Online this weekend, but this comes up and I have my notes right here. The only reason J.D. Vance, as y'all probably know,

is VP, is because Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump were like, do not pick Doug Burgum. Pick this guy. We love him. Do him. Do him.

Do him. Yeah. J.D. J.D. Because they're like super online. Yeah. Donald Trump Jr. has pitched a lot of people to be in Trump's cabinet. And I have a list of them right here.

OK. And I think he only knows like four government positions. Most of them are for the same thing. Would you like to hear some of these? Yes. Bless us. Dan Bongino. Oh, sorry.

Go ahead. Honestly, probably. I would not be surprised. Dan Bongino, who was a Fox host who got fired. The Bonge? Yeah. The Bonge. I want to be at the RNC for vice president.

Dan Bongino. Because I think he'd make a for vice president. Dan Bongino. Because I think he'd make a great vice president. Dan Bongino. Dan Bongino for vice president? For vice president. Of the United States of America. The guy that couldn't even get a weekday Fox News show for vice president. Yeah.

Tucker Carlson, also for vice president. Yeah. Vivek Ramaswamy, also for vice president. Yeah. Kerry Lake, also for vice president yeah carrie lake also for vice president hey he's not to to your point one thing he has in common with americans not does not want to do homework okay he's not we also have tucker carlson again but for a press secretary he forgot he put him on the vp list he was like we have two for one dude venn diagrams i love venn diagrams oh yeah just like amala laura loomer for press secretary oh no it gets it gets even better owen schreier who works with alex jones he's like alex jones

is you know right hand man or yeah was depending on who you ask him for press secretary because remember there are only like three jobs in the world yeah also alex jones for press secretary wow this guy is a real fucking idiot that was the one that's mentioned it for me i was gonna say alex jones for cia but like the oh yeah yeah yeah no that's great yeah he can, he can sell nutraceuticals from the fucking podium during a briefing. Yeah. Oh my God. Dr. Jones is,

um, naturals. I hate that. I know that. Um, this is dad's medicine company. That's the one who does not me. I'm just,

I'm just promoting this other guy's company, but shout out to knowledge. Right. The thing though, too, is like, uh, yeah,

they were just on, shut them out. Uh, the, like the, all these people were talking about again fucking weird all right yes and the people that are in trump's orbit like the ones that have his ear like his kids and stuff like that are also people like elon musk tucker carlson stephen

miller steve bannon again weird ass dudes not again i could i could be more accurate in describing but we all know what we mean. These are people who have, they live in some parallel reality where they think like their objective or their objective opinion about, or their subjective opinion about how we should be living is agreeable to every person that hears it. And it's actually the best thing for the country. And then look what that gets you. You get this guy, JD Vance, and you get these other people who are so unrelatable. I'm like, what's going on? Like, yeah, because y'all are you're you're you're all just in this the weirdest bubble ever.

And thinking because these people have like high standing within within your base that that has wider appeal, like not even just the most online people in your base. So, yeah, weirdness. It's incel shit. Yeah. Like AOC said that to me i was glad she called it out yeah yeah and it also seems like the sort of insult that the people who vote for donald trump would take seriously or like you know like it where if if the democrats has no bite for them anymore right as no nationalist or being like listen to the way he

talks he's like so rude and like the things he says are like uncouth or you know what i mean but like no one gives a fuck he lied his way to the presidency yeah once almost twice yeah weird is what they call other people and like it's unmistakably true in this case you know they spent the last four years calling us pedophiles and now they're mad because we're like, hey. Y'all are weird. Yeah, weird. All right, let's take one more break and we'll come right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.

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Kat, you have seen some shit. As mentioned up top, you were on the night shift for Media Matters, mainlining Fox for hours at a time. You know things about these hosts and their own particular brand of weirdness. So I just wanted to take a moment because I was just reading an interview with you where you talked about Sean Hannity and specifically Pain Day. And I wanted to see if you could talk about Pain Day

and also talk about like anything else that has like come across your radar with regards to some of these names that people who don't watch fox but know about fox yeah like what this question makes me so happy because there is so much lore in my brain yeah that matters to no one else let's have it sean hannity is um a martial artist specifically it's an eclectic blend of martial arts he talks about it a lot on his radio show eclectic blend of martial arts one time he had um connor mcgregor on his show and he kept like mentioning his dojo and kept being like kept hinting at it and i guess he was hoping that mcgregor would be like,

Oh, you want to do like a tussle or something? He never did the entire time. McGregor was just like, I, um, but pain day is, I believe it's once a month.

And, uh, essentially Sean Hannity just gets the shit beaten out of him by a sensei. Okay. And, uh, yep.

That's pain day. I think it's great. I think it's a great concept. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He talks's a great concept. Yeah. Yeah. He talks about it a lot. Yeah. Helps him stay sharp.

Yeah. I think more workout routines should have, should involve one day where Sean Hannity gets the shit beat now. That's just such a funny. If every American does this, we can have Sean Hannity. Sean Hannity would be so shredded. And also, hey, Sean, you want to live in the world where you don't have to call it pain day and you can just let your kinks, you know, be out there. Yeah, man.

You know what I mean? Right. If that's what you want, once a month, get the shit kicked out of you. A lot of people. It's an eclectic blend of Krav Maga and tempo karate, jujitsu. He has to give that speech every time when he enters the dungeon. Yeah. So, like, just a person in the just a who's just like actually what i'm doing is it's not weird it's an eclectic blend of

manly stuff and you know getting my sensei's you know sweat to drip in my mouth and you're like what sir yeah so that's one it's okay sean interesting piece of weird lore whatever what other weirdo lore can you bless us with? Can I tell you about Glenn Beck's weird little girl shoes in a glass box? Yeah. I'm going to go with yeah on that one. This was in 2021 when I was just clipping random stuff. And it always stuck in my head.

Glenn Beck was talking about, he came on the Tucker show to talk about how um how you know awful the big tech is big tech censorship and somehow compared that to internment camps of the japanese during world war ii here in the u.s and i love that for some reason i i can pull up a picture of this for y'all. Yeah. He was like, I have this pair of shoes. And he had them in a little glass box. Here we go. I am sending this in the Zoom chat. He had them in a little glass box. And they're from a little girl that was in a Japanese internment camp.

And then he compared that to big tech censorship. I have no way to explain what was going on in his head it is like it's exactly as i explained right those are those shoes are called geta i'm japanese so like those shoes specifically like those yo that is they're not just shoes like these if you're japanese like you'll look at that shit and be like, yo, what the fuck? And that's his keepsake from the internment? What's his connection to it, aside from why he wants to have those pairs of shoes?

I think he just bought it. I think he was like, this is a symbol for... I have no fucking idea. But he keeps them in a glass box in his home and brought them on national television. I'm a bit of a collector of memorabilia of small girls in pain

going through excruciating things. That definitely is like a pain is the point type keepsake because you're like, look, that was the last time we had it together enough to intern our own fucking people like that, you know, aside from the carceral state. But I mean, like, for Glenn Beck, he's more like, God, I wish we could do this again yeah right right right exactly right

he's like that's how i got kicked off twitter it's just like jack dorsey it's the same thing right right right oof well yeah to remind him glenn beck sir so that's um that's something i think about a lot and i think more people should know about yeah Yeah, that's- Laura Ingram has this guy, Raymond Arroyo, who's a Fox contributor on like almost every day and they gossip and it's fascinating. It's a fascinating dynamic. They become so bitchy and petty with each other. And I just, I really want to hear their conversations

off air to be totally honest. Right. There are so many guests so many guests i have actually a whole bunch of post-it notes on my wall right here i've just like videos that i need to do at some point and one is disappointing your favorite actor when you were a kid is now a regular fox news guest and then oh man yeah just like one of my favorite people from the real world uh or it Rachel Duffy Campos? Oh, yeah.

Rachel Campos Duffy. I was like, I was rooting for you on the real world when I was nine. There's an MTV to Fox News pipeline. Yeah, Kennedy too. Because her husband was also on the real world. That's right. On a different season. Yeah.

Yeah. Wait, can I tell you one more really racist thing that Jesse Waters did this year? Because it's just insane. Yeah, yeah. Let's please throw another one on the pile of racist Jesse Waters stuff that's happened this year so they were talking on Waters show about black voters and a possible menthol ban and I can't find the exact clip but I remember it now yeah about a menthol ban and then they had Tyrus on Tyrus was on there to promote his book you could tell they did not tell him anything about the topic and so he comes on and Tyrus for the record for anyone that doesn't know is uh half

black and um Jesse goes so what do you think about a menthol ban and Tyrus was like well I don't smoke menthols a lot of people don't smoke in general and wow he then he mentioned at some point he was like and you know i'm half white or something and jesse went wait you're half white like on air oh my god i thought this man like this professional wrestler was about to deck him it was the funniest shit wow just completely unprepared for this segment goes all in like jesse is also unprepared for his own segment that he planned that he was ready for god what a fucking loser yeah you're bi racial what the fuck that's the same time bro's like a guest on gutfeld like i can't defend him too much yeah yeah yeah no like tyrus his takes are always so bad he's always deployed to be like hey give us

racist cover right like if can you please do that because obviously this is a time-honored tradition for political fiery rhetoric but like the other thing though too is just thinking about like how getting caught up in this machine completely like fucks your head up like you know you mentioned how jd vance was basically sort of shaped in the fires of Tucker Carlson's show and had some record inordinate amount of appearances prior to him becoming a Senate candidate. And I feel like J.D. Vance is one of these like truly like Machiavellian type characters that is like willing to sell out his own ideological ideological beliefs, like in service of climbing the power

ladder and it is just wild to see where he's at now because so many people so many white supremacists on the right have taken issue with the fact that his wife is a brown female that like it's wild to see this like clip of him on megan kelly's show and kind of talking about the controversy around it but also like half i still have to play this because this shows how you will be chewed up and spit out by like right-wing talking points to the like to the point that you have no respect for your own wife and mother of your children um very tight crews yeah right exactly uh this is jd vance on megan kelly's show time i don't know yeah maybe she's brown uh brown. Listen to this. Look, I love my wife

so much. I love her because she's who she is. Obviously, she's not a white person, and we've been attacked by some white supremacists over that. But I just, I love Usha. She's such a good mom. I'm sorry, but I love her. It's not... Obviously, we've been

attacked. Real sure, but it's not about saying like, yeah, we were attacked by some white supremacists and you know, he could have, if like any reasonable person would say, and they're really wrong. This is a human being has nothing to do with anybody goes, but you know,

she's the, like, it's almost like, well, what do you want me to do? You know, she's like a good wife. So,

you know, despite that, you know, I love her, uh, but just comes off so fucking again just weird it's like you're a fucking shitty husband and you look you look so fucking dumb again because you have to you know be a collection of the right values to ascend in the party and then you end up

just like not even knowing who the fuck you are anymore yeah and he's not qualified you know i mean the only reason like you said you know fox made him a senate candidate like at one point they had him on outnumbered the show where they have one man and then a bunch of women in short skirts next to him right he was like one of their hosts when he was running for senate so he just had like an hour of uninterrupted airtime right and i used to think i was like wow he's the only successful fox candidate because you had you know dr oz right uh you've had all these candidates in the last few years that are like And I used to think, I was like, wow, he's the only successful Fox candidate because you had, you know, Dr. Oz. Right.

You've had all these candidates in the last few years that are like Hannity's friends. Mm-hmm. And they're not actually like good at their job and they keep getting clobbered and it's very funny. But J.D. Vance slipped through. And now it's like, oh, no, he was so unprepared for this. Yeah. Yeah. 100%.

100%. Yeah. this yeah yeah 100 100 yeah i mean the reason that so many of them were losing is the exact thing we're talking about right now is they so many of these like trump fox candidates are weird and people were like i don't like none of this really resonates with me and then the one who slipped through they're like more of this this. Welcome. Meet your new VP. And now, yeah, it has given the Democrats something to run with, it feels like. You've referenced Gutfeld a couple of times. So you have watched Gutfeld.

Our obsession. Oh, I have watched so much Gutfeld. I have watched possibly months of Gutfeld. More Gutfeld than even Gutfeld has seen. I certainly put more effort into any of my bits than Gutfeld has done for his entire life. Sorry, continue. I hate this show.

Yeah, you were talking about, it seems like it's the same conservative comedy special over and over. Like the, like it's just the same handful of jokes. Like what does the writer's room look like for Gutfeld? Like besides non-union, like what is. Yeah, non-union. Yeah. You need a rhyming dictionary.

I don't know if y'all have seen a two minute cut of guttfeld just rhyming this is him in one week he's the worst man in the world just like just like a terrible a terrible comedian it makes me so mad he's not a comedian they were like this is the closest thing we have right yeah his writer's room it's just essentially saying shit in like a weird cadence it's the amount that he rhymes i think is what really gets to me because it's unnecessary i'm sending a link here yeah so this is all i watched gutfeld for like i you know watched it in the background but i switched with a person that watched it like intently every night for a whole week this is every rhyme he did during his late night show for one week it's just one week

this is what it's been one week of me rhyming here we go words have them stumped so they blame it on trump biden gives himself a pass for the cost of food milk and gas step outside if you dare there's turds in the air who should we be thanking for journalism tanking when two minutes one second leap and announce his veep? When will Trump make a peep about his choice for veep? The media cries about their demise. For tabloid fodder, she's a keeper. But what if Taylor's stories went much deeper?

Will politicians live forever thanks to a brain chip endeavor? This is comedy, right? This is comedy? Diapers, caneses and chips in their brains elon enters your mind with a chip he designed are they serious we only made it 41 seconds of the way through oh my god this is one week's one week's worth of shows what a it's so and that's not counting the ones on the five because he also rhymes on the five. And some will say,

well, those are just his transitions between segments. And to that, I would say that's a shitty transition between segments. Also, it's not just his transitions between segments. There are plenty of rhymes within the segments. Yeah. Right. And those...

That's not comedy. And those are like clap... Rhyming isn't comedy. Yeah, yeah. That's not a joke. That's two words that sound similar. Yeah. It's not a joke that's two words that sound similar it's not a joke and I'm not triggered it's just shitty

it sucks it really does suck oh man this is great I have been losing sleep ever since I heard about Gutfeld and how the right is getting funny and the left is worried but this is good news he's the king of late night and they are at 7 p.m. on the West Coast.

Right, right, right. Yeah, truly, truly dominating the fucking charts. Dominating the charts. The air is full of sharts. Oh, wow. How can we hear one? I want to hear your best gut felt. Oh, yes.

Here's the thing. We've got a presidential pick named Kamala Harris. She'll leave the nation embarrassed. Oh! He's going to steal that one. I know. I got new ones. Justin, can we edit that out?

That would actually be the end of her campaign. I'm actually going to take that one. So good. No one can defeat Gutfeld. No one. No one. Exactly. I have to use his own weapons against him.

Exactly. To bring him down. It's the only good thing Bill Maher has ever done is go on Gutfeld's show and make him look stupid. The only good thing Bill Maher has ever done. Oh, wow. Yeah. Because he went on and Gutfeld was like, see, we have so many points of view. And Bill Maher was like, this is the only time that you've ever had someone that's like a liberal. And I'm doing air quotes. Yeah, because, yeah. Because he went on and Gutfeld was like, see, we have so many points of view. And Bill Maher was like, this is the only time that you've ever had someone

that's like a liberal. And I'm doing air quotes, y'all can see. Yeah, exactly. He's like, we might be equally Islamophobic, actually. We might overlap better. Let's compare notes on that. So yeah, in that sense. I kept trying to be like, see, we're like besties.

We're like best friends. And Bill Maher was just like, okay, I'm here to promote my book. Which is so funny, too, because even in comedy, you see some of the people that go on Bill Maher's little basement podcast that he does, and half the time they're like, dude, what? I know. So good.

Well, Kat Abugazale, thank you so much for coming. Yes. What a pleasure having you. Can't wait to keep watching your election coverage. One of the best to do it. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Subscribe to my YouTube channel or follow my TikTok, Kat M. Abu. That's K-A-T-M-A-B-U.

That's also my blue sky, which is pretty much just for pictures of my cat. C-A-T. Heater. And heater, exactly. Tommy. Heater, aka Tommy. The rest of my socials instagram twitter threads all that that you have my full last name so i would just advise either looking at my name or going on my link tree

because it's long and hard to spell but we will not for me in the show notes show notes yes thank you um and also thank you for having me i've had a great time oh no thank you thank you for coming on yeah yeah yeah we'd love to have you back because i feel like shit's only gonna get weirder also thank you for having me. I've had a great time. Oh no. Thank you. Thank you for coming on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'd love to have you back. Cause I feel like shit's only going to get weirder. Uh,

as we get turns out. It's only July. Yeah. And we're this weird. How is that possible? Yeah. Okay. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

It can be a tweet, a film, anything. Um, I've been watching a lot of Dimension 20 on Dropout. It's Dungeons & Dragons with Brendan Lee Mulligan as their game master.

It's very fun to watch. Yeah, I highly recommend it. I've had a blast. I didn't even know that much about D&D, but now I'm like, God, I want to not only play D&D, but play with these people. It's very fun to watch. Oh, it looks like they got a bunch.

Oh, Zach Oyama. Yeah, they got a good crew. Yeah, the Dropout crew is great. They make great stuff. Yeah, yeah, they do. Awesome. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work in media you've been enjoying?

You find me at milesofgray, Twitter, Instagram. You find Jack and I talking basketball. Miles and Jack got mad boosties. And if you want to hear me talk about 90 day fiance, I do that over on 420 day fiance for all my trash reality lovers. A tweet I like. Oh, man, there's a few. Let's see.

This one is just kind of funny. At weird bongs just tweeted this photo of like a half smoked cigarette in a bowl with saran wrap over it in the refrigerator next to some loose chicken bones and this is something so visceral about someone with a half smoked cigarette being like let me put the saran wrap on top of the bowl uh and then another one was just uh well actually this this this was at not turtle soup well actually it's actually a video shout out to amanda who's yeah am, who's also been on the show too. Just this fucking weird ad from JD. Again, just stupid ass ad trying to get people pumped up for the campaign.

And this is how he's trying to get people pumped up for the campaign. Hey, guys. JD Vance here at Radford, Virginia. I thought I'd take you behind the scenes a little bit. When you get to an event, they've got a ton of crap for you to drink and eat. You've got three bottles of Diet Now to do, about a dozen Snickers and bag of chips.

If I ate even half this stuff, of course, I'd balloon up like crazy. This is the energy that powers the presidential and vice-presidential campaign. Of course, I'm honored to be supporting President Trump. I'm honored to be his running mate. If you want to help us, chip in $5, chip in $15 to get the message out and to get people to the polls. This election is so important. Your resources help us do the things

we need to win it. Okay. Did he know that like chip in was written in there as like a play on words? Because that's the only thing that makes that have a reason. Are we thinking this was written? I think this was pure. This is improvised. They're like, this is charisma.

You can't get anywhere. Yeah. Like I said, this guy is the grand wizard of the KKK. And he's trying to hit us with this elementary city. He's like, look, he was trying to be colloquial.

Like he, first he was calling it crap. Like it's bad for you, but also trying to be like, yo, look at all this free crap we got, dude. It's like look he was trying to be koloka like he first he was calling it crap like it's bad for you but also trying to be like yo look at all this free crap we got dude it's like it makes me not want to chip in five dollars because i'm like well you just could not get as many bags of chips yeah making balloon up like crazy if you're not going to eat half of it what's the there are only two of you yeah he's got the desantis thing going the like come on man sugar you know like when des, like when DeSantis was like, when people were like,

you ate pudding with two fingers, you freak. And he was like, no, I don't even eat pudding, man. Come on, man,

sugar. He, cause didn't JD Vance like also, well, I guess he said, I don't drink Mountain Dew. I drink diet Mountain Dew, but I feel like he's always talking like he's got that like dolphin sex.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. What was that sex? Yeah. Oh, yeah. What was that one? Is that a health guy thing? I saw that pop up too now that he's searching dolphin shit. So like there was like highlighting in the screenshot that made it seem like he could be searching for

dolphin sex, like dolphin with a woman. Right. And then they had to like change a headline because it was like there's no definitive proof that was the case. Oh my yeah i love his twitter is so good now like the picture of him like looking at guns because he's such a big strong man and then in the background like the next case over it's like a bunch of nazi memorabilia yeah they're just sir delete your delete your old tweets unbelievable killing it amazing Amazing. Where can we find you? Do you have any media? You can find me.

Oh my god, thank you so much for asking. You can find me actually at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. Enjoying things like PJ Evans tweeted, catching up to a guy in the grocery store. I got milk before I knew you had already gotten some. I wasn't copying you.

Which I can identify with. Also. Such a mood. The fear. Hey, you copied me? No, man. No. Just saying.

Yeah. I know it looks like I was copying. And then Noah Garfinkel tweeted, I'm totally Xanax pilled. I enjoyed. You can find us on Twitter At Daily Zeitgeist We're at The Daily Zeitgeist On Instagram

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Yes This is a track from a group called night tapes they are from southeast london and it's very like diy dreamy bedroom pop uh and i just like it it feels sparkly it feels fun it feels like there's not 98 days until an election so this track is called Drifting and it's by Night Tapes. This is what I'm going to be listening to when I do my little tracings later. Okay, so put it in your headphones to relax. Drifting by Night Tapes.

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