The Daily Zeitgeist - R.I.P. Bigfoot? Zero Introspection = Lambo 03.18.26

Episode Date: March 18, 2026

In episode 2024, Jack and guest co-host Andrew Ti are joined by comedian, Amy Miller, to discuss… Explain The Failure of Modern Capitalism In 90 Seconds, Trump Being Visited By The Ghost of And...rew Jackson? DJ Tanner Visited A “Demonic” Sex Party, R.I.P. Bigfoot? And more! Billionaire Marc Andreessen says he has "zero" introspection, and that the idea itself is a modern invention. Trump Lies About Approval of Iran War From Mystery Former President Fox News’ Peter Doocy: You said twice today that you talked to another former president about the Iran strikes..." Trump: "“I don’t want to get into who.” Former US presidents have not talked to Trump on Iran, aides say, disputing Trump's claim Candace Cameron Bure recalls attending ‘dark and demonic’ S&M party with husband: ‘My eyeballs were popping out of my head’ ‘Full House’ Star Candace Cameron Bure: ‘I Don’t Even Want Someone Watching a Scary Movie in Our House’ Because ‘That’s a Portal’ to Something ‘Demonic’ Candace Cameron Bure accidentally found herself taking a walk on the wild side, as the actress confessed to attending a sex party with her husband! Amber Ruffin's 'Bigfoot!' musical offers hope to anyone who's been othered Is Bigfoot in Ohio? Recent sightings, more on Ohio's mythical creatures Bigfoot, 'Distorted Face,' and Six More New Emoji Coming to Your iPhone Unicode's new emoji refuses to put respect on Bigfoot's name The Famed 1967 Bigfoot Film Was an 'Incredible Hoax,' Says the Director of a Groundbreaking New Documentary Exposing Roger Patterson's 1967 Bigfoot Film Hoax Film Introducing Bigfoot To World Still Mysterious 50 Years Later Tracking Bigfoot Documentary’s Devastating Bigfoot Debunking BFRO (Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization): Debunking the bigfoot documentary 'capturing bigfoot' LISTEN: Maiga Mali Mansa Musa by BLK JKSSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:34 without having to listen to the whole thing. I hear that dog. And I noticed that on Spotify, you can, like, click and see what everybody's comments are. You looked at the comments on Goddames. That's the worst place to look at the comments. The people who listen to our show on Spotify, they hate our show.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Yeah. They're like, overrated, underrated? That sucks. They're probably being forced to listen at gunpoint. That is their fault even, probably. That is how most of our listenership. Yeah, but I woke up at 1.45 this morning to get to, because there was like a TSA scare.
Starting point is 00:01:18 It was like, if you go to the Austin airport two hours before, because I was the South by, if you go two hours before, you're going to miss your flight. And I got sucked in. They sucked me in, guys. And I went and just got through security in 10 minutes and sat at the airport for my flight was delayed two hours. So it was like five hours just there was all that airport. It's actually been fine.
Starting point is 00:01:45 I don't know where the chaos is. Did I talk about this on this show? I was in Mexico a couple weeks ago, but I did the fucking dumbass thing of like getting my ticket that was on the Mexican airline, but via a U.S. airline. And the long, the shortest version of this stupid. It as story is when I went to check in on the Mexican Airlines app, they were like, you have to do it from the airline you bought it from in America. And in the American app, they were like, you have to do it on the Mexican Airlines app. And they would. And I actually talked to people on customer service, and they both were like, yeah, it's definitely the other company's responsibility. I don't know why they're lying to you,
Starting point is 00:02:26 man. It was so crazy. Yeah. And prior to that, my friends on the other airline had actually been bumped from their flight, even though they got there two hours ahead of time, because apparently they needed to get there three hours ahead of time. So they were stuck in LAX with a one-year-old for 14 hours. Oh, my God. That's a nightmare. Oh, that made me feel nauseous. Anyway, fuck all that shit.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Fuck air travel. I'm with you. I'm getting there a day before. Fuck air travel. Fuck car travel. Fuck car travel. That's right. Fuck am truck.
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Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah, it's a production of IHeartRadio is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's share consciousness through the day's news. We also have a new non-news. version of TDZ dropping each Monday morning where we do a deep dive into the zeitgeist through the lens of a different icon. Past few have been Stephen King, the greys, like that standard alien face. And then we went back to back tiny cryptids. We did lepracons this week, which was...
Starting point is 00:06:28 Oh, grays and tiny cryptos. Graze and lepracons are both tiny cranes and greens. Graze and greens, that's right. Those are the episodes on Monday morning with icon in the title and the logo. It is Wednesday, March 18th, 2026. Is that right? Yeah, that's right. It's day after St. Patrick's Day.
Starting point is 00:06:51 It's a St. Hangover's Day. We'll call it. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka, all the cabinet picks wearing Trump's fun kicks. Try to run. Try to run. In Oxford, you can't do it. All the cabinet dicks wearing shoes too big. Try to run.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Try to run. Shuffle and look stupid. That one courtesy of Cleo Universe and Snarfila, a collabo. In reference to the story yesterday that I was very sad to miss. We didn't get into it bad much. This was like last week. They dropped this AKA, but I guess we missed it. But I'm going to speak to my short-term memory.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I think there's a chance. Smiles did that one yesterday, but I do not remember, and I do not want anyone to correct anything. And that's fine. I would not, even if he did do it. But yeah, those pictures of Marco Rubio's little ankles inside the- Marco Shubio. Marco Shubio swimming in those little ankles swimming in the big shoes because Donald Trump said that you can tell a lot about a man by his shoe size.
Starting point is 00:08:02 And he's just like, I guess I wear big shoes from now. It's like a ninth grade locker room in there. What is what is wrong with these people? The most VEP-coded story possible. Just deep-ass. It's like too stupid for VEP, almost. Anyways, thrilled to be joined in our second seat by one of our very favorite guests,
Starting point is 00:08:22 the hilarious and brilliant producer, TV writer. You know him from the U.S. This Racist podcast. And the new starter track podcast, it's Andrew T. Hi, everyone. I didn't have time to come up with any AK. I do know that Miles does the holiday stuff sometimes, and I did just do a quick duck, duck go around the internet. It is apparently National Forgive Mom and Dad Day, which is...
Starting point is 00:08:50 I wonder if that's related to how many Irish people fought their die yesterday. I mean, obviously that should be every day, but... Yeah, forgive your parents. They tried their best, maybe. Some of them didn't. In some context. Some of them didn't. And it's okay to not forgive them.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah. No, this day told me I have to. You have to celebrate every holiday. Oh, my God. Andrew. Thank you so much for filling in. Miles has a sick boy at home. Not the character from train spotting.
Starting point is 00:09:25 But. Miles is strung out on the scag. That's right. Andrew, we are thrilled to be joined. by one of our very favorite guests, one of the funniest stand-up comics in the world. You know her from TV podcasts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:45 A wonderful follow on Instagram. You can see her headlining at a theater near you if you check her website for dates before they sell out. It's Amy Miller! Hello! Hey, question. Every time my mom, Miles is not here. Is he mad at me?
Starting point is 00:10:04 Does he hate me? Did I do something wrong? Yes. Definitely. The answer is yes. Starting to feel a little personal, guys. That's wild. That is crazy.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I don't run like that with, I forget which guest, but I started just missing the episodes on purpose, just to keep it going. Just let him know. Put him in their place. I think he would be mad at you if you are the person
Starting point is 00:10:30 who gave his son conjunctivitis. then he was. Oh, yeah, I wasn't. No. You didn't fart on his pillow. Also, his son got Duky and his eyes somehow and I was not involved. Producer, producer Victor has pointed out that you keep, you started beef with one of the most dangerous beefs I can think of. I think that's incorrect. He said you kept missing Epps with Marcella, I think. I don't, I may go out of my way to not miss Eps with Marcella because I do not want Marcel. That's not safe. Yeah, that's not a thing that I want to. do. Don't do that. Yeah, absolutely not. Amy, you're in Las Vegas. I'm in Las Vegas, yes.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I had a question for you. I have with a giant palm tree lamp on the wall. So I do think it's, I do think stand-ups are like out there in the collective consciousness of America experiencing it in a different way. We covered a story on here a few months back that like in the last couple years private equity has taken over Las Vegas and like just like have made it impossible for people to win. I'm just curious if you
Starting point is 00:11:39 have noticed an overall vibe shift as somebody who is out there interacting with people who are gambling in Las Vegas. I mean, I don't know about the gambling odds. I guess I haven't had a big slot
Starting point is 00:11:55 win here in a number of years but there's such a vibe shift in every way. Like, it's just very ghost towny now. There's so much shit closed, um, or under construction. And there's not, it's weird. It's like you can't, there's not like, even like late night food, you know, like it's just not like a round the clock town anymore. That's wild. It's strange. Yeah. And shit's just so expensive. Yeah. A lot of the hotels haven't recovered from the pandemic still. And it's a, it is an interesting vibe. But it's still, you know, for comedians.
Starting point is 00:12:32 They still do a lot of conferences here. Yeah. Yeah. People are here. Well, it's also like you guys are the cheapest of the big shows. Yeah. Well, also you can get free tickets to comedy shows if you stay in this hotel. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:48 But what I mean is like it's no big deal for the hotel to give away a free ticket. No offense to like your fee is much less than the hundreds of people that work on Cirque to Soleil. Yeah. Well, in the same building as the comedy seller is Penn and Teller, which I've seen many, many times. What a delight. So great. Yeah, I think it's like, it's like 90 bucks. And then if you order a drink and you do get a souvenir glass, you know, but they're like 25 bucks or something insane. We don't have to pay. I've been able to see it for free. But like, yeah, I'm not saying they're not worth it. But I mean, you know, it could be it could be 40 bucks to see magic. for example. Like, I think Penn and Teller have made their money. They have their mansions, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:34 Yeah. It's a weird vibe. So does that lead to, like, more people who've just been, like, completely cleaned out going to comedy shows? Like, is the saddest people in Las Vegas? Well, that's always been true.
Starting point is 00:13:46 That's always been a vibe for doing stand-up comedy in any casino anywhere, you know? Who broke? Yeah, yeah. It's a last, it's a sort of last ditch activity. If you're there, You're not doing the thing you want to be doing, which is, yeah. Gambling.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Playing winning. Yeah. No, people can come in pretty pissed. Jack, if you really want to know the odds are much worse, they, for instance, have roulette wheels on Vegas with. Yeah, the triple zero. That's what we talked about. Do we talk about?
Starting point is 00:14:17 Okay. Yeah, they affected the odds. Like, they changed the odds on Blackjack. Yeah. Just to reiterate, triple zero is straight up illegal in Europe. They're like, this is too advantageous to the house. It's illegal. to do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it is like, there was a one way. They've made it a
Starting point is 00:14:35 worst place to gamble with like more yeah just like gambling profits are up because they're basically doing the same shit that they do on apps, which is they just find the 10 people 10% of like true addicts like ruin their own lives addicts and those people just are still there of course. Addiction has always been the cheat code to capitalism. Yeah, it's really nice things. All right. somehow grosser than it already was. I know. On that happy note, Amy, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:15:05 First we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. I've got this interview with, from a podcast called Deal, spelled D-E-E-L. So they're going like, I don't know. I'm always interested in like what the hip thing is to do with misspelling a word. This one is kind of baffling to me. But it's a guy who, who I did not bother to learn his name.
Starting point is 00:15:31 He's the host, and he's like, I've read 410 biographies of the best entrepreneurs in the game. And he has a conversation with Mark Andreessen. And I just think it's a very nice, clean, 90-second explanation of what has happened to our world. So I just want to look at that with you guys. I want to talk about Donald Trump's, like, just got caught in the most obvious. lie possible. He said that a former president told him that the war was going well and was a good plan. They were like, dude, there's like four of those. You have any idea how easy that is to
Starting point is 00:16:12 fact check? So they fact checked. It's not true. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about DJ from Full House, who is now a Christian influencer and a demonic sex party that she allegedly attended. And I just want to, you know, get you guys as experience. experiences with attending accidentally attending demonic sex parties in Los Angeles, as Christians. And then we want to check in with Bigfoot. It'll be a mini iconograph episode where we just look at Bigfoot because there's some, there's been some Bigfoot news in the past month. I've always like ranked Bigfoot toward the bottom of like the cryptids that I'm willing to be like, really? I don't believe in this, but I'm going to read this article to like get. intrigued, get like
Starting point is 00:17:00 mystery porn, you know, or I'm like, hmm, this is interesting. Like, the Bigfoot ones never really pay off for me. Yeah. But I have a legit friend who is otherwise a normal human being who 1,000% believes in Bigfoot. Me too. And the way he talks about, like,
Starting point is 00:17:16 it's crazy. It's amazing. It's Kyle Canane. Yeah. Yeah, I have friends who are very smart. I don't not believe in Bigfoot. I'll save it. So anyways, we'll talk about all of that plenty more. But first, Amy, we do like to ask our guests,
Starting point is 00:17:35 what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Okay. I really fucked up and I'm so stupid because as many times as I've done this show, this show, I forget that it's not today. So they're all St. Paddy's Day related. That's fine. And that's real. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And that's real. And our listeners can take the realness of the timeline. I'm wearing green. If, uh, well, for anybody who already listened to your, to your icons about leprechauns, I did get into like a spiral about if leprechauns fuck because, because the leprechaun from the horror films, which is maybe what has tainted me. You know, he's a horny little guy. Very sex forward.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Of course, they cannot, you know, reproduce because they're all male. The jury's still out on whether or not they have genitalia because they are spirits. So two little things that I learned in the research of leprechauns. One is that they weren't always all male, like in the very early sightings, they were both male and female. The second one, there's a theory that the women just have beards. And so they're not all female. They all just look like that. There's a number of theories including that because banshees are all female,
Starting point is 00:19:02 that there is like maybe they could get together with banshees. Oh, yeah. Short kings. And then the banshees are all tweeting about I love my short king. They're part of the same like mythological like derivation, bansies and leprechauns. But it does stand to reason that they're kind of asexual because I think like, like they're so obsessed with the things.
Starting point is 00:19:22 things they do. It's like a Dolly Parton thing, right? Where when people are like, oh, she's a lesbian. And you're like, it kind of doesn't matter. She's like an ethereal creature. Yeah, like they are concerned with cobbler, cobbling and they're gold. Um, like they're not trying to fuck. Because that was kind of news to me. That cobbling is like one of the main things of lepricons. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I knew they were always working on something. I just didn't know his shoes. Well, it's the primary reason I'll like sneak it. into your house and like because they'll you know they'll fix up your shoes while you're sleeping or whatever they're obsessed with cobbling but yeah um there's another theory that they just sort
Starting point is 00:20:02 sort of they sort of reproduce like amoebas like they're just kind of oh just butt off because how do we get more leprechauns that's i don't think we need anymore that's the counterpoint we're all full up yeah we got as many as we need and it's perfect well i spent a long time reading about lepracons And then some people on Reddit got very upset. And someone was like, God, you guys are so obsessed with this. This guy goes, leprechaun is an occupation, not a race or a gender. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Like, and he's, I guess, right. That doesn't seem true. That feels because they're a mythological creature, I thought. Yeah, that's their job. Right. So their job is being a mythological creature, but they're just. Yes, and cobbling and protecting the gold. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Yeah. So you level up into leprechaun? From what? I don't know, from person? No, no. You need at least nine years going up, getting in front of people, being a lepricon. It's a union game. Tell their friends about it and then disappearing, you know?
Starting point is 00:21:13 It's, used to have that crouch about you, leprechauns. Used to have that anger. I'm going to be honest. I think everything I'm about to say I've not said because I think I'm thinking of Rumble Skilt Skid. Oh yeah. You probably are.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Yeah. That's a different character altogether. Yeah, there's a lot of those little guys though throughout mythology, right? Like there's a lot of these little guys. He's more of a troll, right? Because trolls are into like tests and riddles and yeah. I guess.
Starting point is 00:21:41 But he's a little guy with a wooden mallet. Yeah, lepracons are sneaky and they're doing sneaky shit, but they're not like, yeah. And they're trying to protect their gold, but they're not like, hey, figure out this riddle and I'll let you do whatever you want to me. It's so weird. The mythology around them is basically just like from Jump Street, it's like, so if you beat them up or like threatened to beat them up, they'll give you the thing that you want. Like it's just immediately assumed that you're in like a, you know, antagonistic, like, viability. violent confrontation with them.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah. Which felt bad as a... Yeah. It felt bad to me as a kid. There's just the... Yeah, the aggression with the Lucky Charms Lepagong and the Tricks Rabbit, you know, it was just like, oh, so as children were supposed to beat up these other... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:37 These sprightly characters to get our cereal. Like, I'm good. I'll just have a different kind of serial. Like, I'm so nonviolent for the most part. Gotta fight a rabbit. That Lucky Charms one, yeah, was very childlike. But that's not, but lepron's are old men. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yeah, they tend to be old and wither. He's an apprentice leopard. But wait. It's also, isn't it? It's just the, what is the, who's the Notre Dame guy then? Also a lepricom. Okay. He fights a lot, though.
Starting point is 00:23:06 He's got his fists up at all the time. Yeah. So who's fighting who is what I'm saying. Guys, I'm going to have to just direct you to the leprechaun episode. He's covered all this stuff. Okay, sorry. Well, this is good promo for it. Amy, what is something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:23:22 Oh, my God. Okay. Sorry. Once again, underrated is having corned beef all year, anytime you want it. Yes. The whole thing is, St. Patty's Day based. I love it. Jack O'Brien. It's always St. Patrick's Day for me. But, okay, but it's still a food thing. Like, corned beef is so delicious.
Starting point is 00:23:43 It's just like a salty, spicy biscuit. Like, I don't, and it's always a special occasion meat, and I don't know why. I mean, you know, my family's not super, well, we're not Irish Catholic. We're like Scott's Irish, white trash. And we would have corned beef whenever the moot's truck. And I think that you should all feel comfortable doing that as well. Corned beef and cabbage is a good, delicious. Got to have corned beef and cabbage if I'm going to manage.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Yeah, to quote, Everlast. Maybe my favorite lyric is. I didn't know corned beef was spicy. I, to be honest with you, don't eat a lot of corn beef, but it's pepper corn. Do you like risket? Yeah, motherfucker. Yeah, motherfucker. I have some fucking corn beef.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yeah, maybe I should. I think I've just like always had it at like a bar that like that had been, you know, like it's on St. Patrick's Day. I always eat it on St. Patrick's Day. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. From a thing that's being heated by a sterno, you know? Yeah, delicious.
Starting point is 00:24:45 As it was meant to be. Exactly. I think broadly speaking, I would just say, and this is, I know, listen, I'm always saying I shit is more of an Asian thing, but I think more Americans need to eat more steamed meat. Yeah, and cabbage too. I love steamed meat. Yes, and cabbage, wonderful for your tummy. It's delicious.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Part of the corn beef, or, yeah, the corned beef seasoning is just from not properly cleaning your crock pot last year. So it's sort of just, it comes every year. it gets more delicious. An echo of last years. Oh, you do have a poet's soul, Jack, when you had it in you. That's right.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Basically, James Joyce over here. What is something you think is overrated? Making green beer with food coloring. Because you can make it with blue curaels, which also has food coloring in it. But why not add extra liquor? Thank you. One day later.
Starting point is 00:25:44 That has been my TED talk. I'm so stupid. I love it. Next time will you guys remind me? No. Okay. This is good. I do think that sometimes we just...
Starting point is 00:25:56 I think sometimes we need closure on a holiday like that, you know? Yeah. People just experience, like I experience it. I have my corn beef. It's like not the best quality corn beef and I don't even think about it. But now we're getting some closure on the holiday. You could have it next week again for dinner. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:26:16 just like, you can have beer with blue cursorso in any day you want. That's right. That's so great, because the beer is already amber, so blue cura sow is all you need. Well, it's yellow. Well, you got to use like a yellow, like a light, you know, a Corona or a Miller light or something. Yeah. Probably something Irish. A lot of people don't know that that's how they die the, that's how they die the Chicago River.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Blue Curacao. And piss. Yeah. And piss from Dave Matthew Dave Matthews band's tour bus. I love Blue Curacao. Right, because orange and chocolate is like a flavor that some people like.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Yeah. And so I don't know if you've ever, what is the clear or... You said that was such disdaining. No, I like it too, but I was pitching it and then I realized like probably 30% of people listening to this are going to be like, ugh, gross. Sure.
Starting point is 00:27:12 But in my 20s, I got into pouring blue kurosau on chocolate ice cream. Ooh. Because it tastes really good, but it makes like the most revolting gray sludge you've ever seen. Like, it's like, it looks like a black and white photograph, but you're in real life. It looks like the shit for the guy from Dune like Bades. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:35 It's the first half of Pleasantville. Yeah. Because it's like, it looks like gray paint. Yeah. It's just like chocolate ice cream and then the dark blue food. food coloring. Get into this, Andrew. Someone left a bottle of blue carousel at my house after a house party, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:27:52 got to finish this somehow. Yeah. Put it on ice cream. Like we all say when there's leftover liquor. I don't remember all the steps, but you're closer than not to the truth. It's like, I love it. It's kind of like white rationy, I guess, like liquor mixed with like a nice, creamy treat. I don't know what you'd necessarily call that one.
Starting point is 00:28:15 gray Russian. Gray goo. I mean, it's like a gray orange, gray chocolate orange. There you go. All right. Well, that was good. I think everybody has the proper closure
Starting point is 00:28:26 that they need on the holiday. Wait until you're a question for me later. Your work of the media. I'm sorry. Irish step dancing. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I heard and TikTok have come together
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Starting point is 00:31:31 What's up? I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think, on and off the court. Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests. What's the vibe of that when it's like you're starting?
Starting point is 00:31:49 Our players like, well, I want to leave. And then actually now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's, like, definitely happening in the WBA. And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man.
Starting point is 00:32:07 You can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games, no, you know, doing this, doing whatever. And of course, family stories. And we're like, Mommy, why did you miss that? do you play basketball? Check out Game Recognized game with Stulian Miles on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back.
Starting point is 00:32:38 And I want to play a little video for you. Do you guys know who Mark Andreessen is? Yes. Only from this shit. From this? Yeah, same. Apparently, like, during the pandemic, he was, like, really heavy.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Like, he would just have. these big, massive, like, group chats with people and was really influential and, like, moving people to the right, like, billionaire investor dipshits, like, that, that whole movement where everybody, like, suddenly got on board with Trump was, like, he was a big mover on that. And, like, the group chats sounded fucking insufferable, like, and incessant. Like, he would just be like, why, why aren't you involved today in the group chat? Like hitting people up and just nonstop, relentless, nothing to do with this time,
Starting point is 00:33:31 but obviously claims to be like the hardest working CEO in the world. But I just want to share this video because I think it's really a good indication of just like where we're at, why we're here, who these fucking people are. So it's him on like one of these, you know, Mark. I'm like a big fan of what you do. Like, tell us.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Let us get to know you a little bit better. Imagine knowing the name of, like, four CEOs. Like, what kind of horrible person? Yeah, also, the way this guy talks, there's getting to be like an entrepreneurial, like, tech accent where I'm like, like, it's douchy. But, well, you'll see. Like, I, uh, okay, sorry. All right. So it's just, yeah, we'll, we'll play it and stop wherever we want to.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Here we go. You don't have any levels of introspection. Yes, zero. as little as possible. Why? Just like right off. Yes, zero. As little as possible.
Starting point is 00:34:29 It's like a sociopath accent we're developing. Right. Yes. Zero. Run on. Of course. Move forward. Go.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Does a little help. Yeah. I don't know. I've just, I found people who dwell on the past get stuck in the past. It's just, it's a real problem. And it's a problem at work and it's a problem at home.
Starting point is 00:34:45 So I've read, obviously, 400 and I think now 10 biorephys of history entrepreneurs. And that was one of the most surprised. His shish. Christ. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's sort of less surprising now that you, when you like these,
Starting point is 00:34:58 it's less surprising that these guys are like so impressed by chat GPT or like whatever the video thing. Because you're like, oh, to you, this is actually what a human seems like. Yeah. Right. I get it. What's the most surprising thing that you've learned from this? They're like, oh, they have little or zero introspection. So he just said he read 410 biographies of history's greatest entrepreneurs,
Starting point is 00:35:18 the people who are like driving our society. forward. And he said, the thing that he took away from all of them is they all have little to zero introspection.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Like Sam Walton didn't wake up thinking about his internal self. He just woke up. He just woke up. He's like, I like building Walmart. I'm going to keep building
Starting point is 00:35:40 Walmart. I'm going to make more Walmart and just kept doing it over and over again. Never to ask. Maybe I shouldn't. Yeah. No, no.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Good morning, honey. Right. Springs up. out of bed. What do you want for breakfast, Sam? Right. I want to build Walmart. It's also like, I mean, maybe.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Maybe this is like a thing that I'm not understanding, but like, how do you stop your brain from introspecting? Like, just move forward. Just move forward. Just think about the future. Just don't think about the past. Yeah. It's, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:21 It is something. that needs to be trained out of you, though, I think. Like, that's, I think, like, his, the thing that when I was reading about his group chat, where he was, like, converting everybody and being like, your fucking loser, cancel culture is the worst thing possible. We need to get on board with Trump. Was, like, he was just talking nonstop. And it's just like, yeah, a thought-stopping thing where it's just like this incessant group chat where he's trying to sway people over.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I guess that's what I'm saying, though, is like, I think like introspection is like an autonomic process. Like you can't not do it. Your brain like until you're dead, which I guess is about where these guys are at. Right. What the fuck are you talking about? It's,
Starting point is 00:37:07 I mean, it's easier if you're constantly taking in information every second. So if the second, you know, this guy opens his eyes, he's back in that fucking group chat or whatever. Like, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:19 it's possible. But I'm, I'm also like, do these guys not have like, like, hellfishy? Like, even just physical introspection of like, like, my knee hurts or whatever. Like, I see in top, like, I don't, I just wonder also what they're thinking about on their fucking deathbeds, you know? Like, are they thinking about stuff with their business they could have done differently? I think that's where it gets scary for all of us, right? Once they have to face death and they're just like, well, well, I don't want to die.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Like these are the people who like drive that like optimization health movement, you know, the billionaires who are like, we, I need to like invest in things so that I can live to be 300 years old. And like they're the ones who like buy into that whole, you know, Silicon Valley tech, by tech driven biohacking thing where they're like, we believe we can get to eternal life within. But only for the purpose of making more money. Like I don't understand why you want to live longer if you don't get. any, like, joy from life. And that's the sort of question that gets in the way of productivity, Amy. Wow. That sounds like a YP. Yeah. If you go back, before 100 years ago, it never would have occurred to anybody to be
Starting point is 00:38:33 introspective. Like, it's the whole idea. I mean, just this is where it gets a little anti-semitic. And all the things that kind of resolve from that are, you know, kind of a manufacturer of the 1910s, 1920s. Say more about that. Great men of history didn't sit around doing this stuff. At any prior point, right?
Starting point is 00:38:47 It's all, it's all a new construct. It was going to These motherfuckers All have like He also, yeah To your point Maybe he also has that Like Elon Musk
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yeah And then like talking 100 miles per And the breathing is so weird Well but I That The stuttering is to interrupt other people right? Right Like even when he's not
Starting point is 00:39:08 outwardly saying something He doesn't allow you to say something I will also just say though It's like these guys all also think They're goddamn Marcus Aurelius But like read one book You dumb fuck We, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:20 What are you talking about? Tell us, chat GPT, if fucking Julius Caesar introspected. Right. He's also breathing in like a choral singer,
Starting point is 00:39:32 like that he needs to get a big enough breath to be able to rattle on for a long time. I actually worked with my really good friend Kenny G on my circular breathing, so I actually never have to stop talking. I just keep going like this.
Starting point is 00:39:46 And it just, yeah. Yeah. It just can be, can be, I can keep going and never have to listen to anybody else. And I just keep moving forward. I don't like it when you do it, Jack. But it's, yeah, so he eventually blames it on Freud. He's like, comes out of Vienna.
Starting point is 00:40:05 He knows all these things and builds things and builds empires and builds companies and builds technology, does all these things. And then, you know, kind of this kind of guilt-based whammy, you know, kind of showed up from Europe, a lot of it from Vienna. Yeah, in the 19, 10th, making 20s, Freud and all that entire movement and kind of turned all that inward and basically said, okay, now we need to like, you know, basically second guess, the individual. We need to criticize the individual. The individual needs to self-criticize. This is the sort of, yeah, anti-Semitism. Like, it's all Freud and like these Jewish intellectuals. Like, I'm not saying like what he said specifically was, but like it's just, it's adjacent. It's in that world. Yeah. But just the idea, like, thinking that, I think about whether what you've done is good or bad is a new construct. That's all moral philosophy and, like, both testaments of the Bible. Like, what the fuck are you actually talking about?
Starting point is 00:41:03 Like, how do you get to being in this position where you're, like, talking to other people constantly, you're seen as, like, a leader, and you are just, like, so off base you're like in this weird conspiracy theory that nobody had thought about whether what they were doing was right or wrong prior to Freud? Well, do you think he's being sincere or do you think this is the same trajectory of nerd to fucking billionaire where he's like, yeah, I don't even care. I don't even think about because he's spent so much of his life dealing with rejection and feeling weak and feeling like...
Starting point is 00:41:45 I think he's sincerely that he definitely... I think he believes this because I feel like all these nerds are... Again, just smoke one joint and go to one philosophy class. Right. Dip shits. They all say this stuff like they're the first person who ever said it, which is so wild. This is what college is for.
Starting point is 00:42:04 College is so you know that this is dumb. How does it stand to any reason that ancient man wasn't introspective when it's like that, you know, pre-technology, people are literally just trying to survive. Yeah. And that, I mean, I guess that's a different kind of lack of introspection. If you're living in a fight or flight life where you're just always in danger and you don't have the comforts of like, you know, living indoors and whatever. Like he thought these people were waking up and thinking about like world building. I will say I was incorrect about one thing.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I did look up the quote. It says, and when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he didn't weep, he definitely didn't weep. Weeping's gay, bro. That's right. You found the original. In the original Greek. Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Yeah. But, I mean, it's like sociopathic narcissism is like the ultimate personality, like, mind build for this version of late stage capitalism, you know? Like, it's just, it's going to be the thing that is going to, make you more successful. It like gets you up in the morning feeling like shit about the sucking hole in your soul. And like it just drives you like a jet engine forward,
Starting point is 00:43:21 just ready to destroy everything in your path. And he is, that's, you know, that's him. That's Trump. That's Elon Musk. That's all these people like are just driven by this fucking, you know, bullshit mentality. And now they're trying to remake history and the rest of the world in that image. It's just like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:42 I guess it's our job to like keep reminding everybody that's not that's not. But it's just a lie because though these people also are obsessed with what other people think about them more than anybody. Like Trump the most. I mean, and Elon Musk like still, you know, just wants to be cool.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Like you don't. I mean, they think, I just think it's, I just think this guy's lying. I mean, literally Elon would trade anything. thing to be able to do what Amy does.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I know. The opposite is not true. The comedy seller in Vegas. That's right. Like, it's so wild. But yeah, I think you're right. They're just lying. He's not like this.
Starting point is 00:44:25 The other thing is like even just from a fucking like business guy perspective, like, the other side of this is they are wrong. Like, like if you could make money betting against Elon Musk, like, you know, the stock ship price is one thing. but he is incorrect about every pronouncement he makes. Yeah. So like, he really is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:45 There is an arbitrage opportunity for someone greedier and slightly more PowerPoint, or not power, but Excel inclined than me to figure out the best way to bet against Elon Musk. Right. Like, yeah. There's money to be made. Yeah. I don't know. It does seem like they're pretty in control of the systems of capital.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I don't know. I don't know if they're like ever going to relinquish the power, like their grip on that until the whole thing just like falls down, which could be much thinner than anyone's like even within capitalism, they're wrong. So like there's opportunities somewhere in their wrongness to make money. Yeah. Right? Yeah, probably. Oh, I'm asking. Now, Jack, as someone who accepts up with too much introspection, I would guess, do you, do you, do you, any?
Starting point is 00:45:38 envy it a little bit. Where do you get this from? The fact that I told you guys before we start recording that I was up at one this morning reading Spotify comments on the episode, questioning every decision I've ever made in my life. Guilt is the first thing you experienced when you wake up. That's true. I got the whammy. I don't think it started with Freud.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I'm Irish Catholic. I don't think that started with Freud necessarily. It started with like a weird thing for him to say. Who invented the idea of confession? Right. The Catholic Church, I think. Well, yeah. But then, I mean, like, moral philosophers since way before, like, you know, from the era, like, B.C. era, from the Axiol age, we're all, like, talking, thinking about this shit.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Like, that's, it's a wild outlook on the world that is really does. You're right. It can't be a thing he actually believes. It has to be a thing that he just knows is useful for him to tell the people who work for him and to try and remake the world in that image. I think he also just doesn't know what he's talking about. I think he thinks he's not introspecting, and he believes in some version of that, like Amy's like, you know, just talk through it version.
Starting point is 00:47:01 But he absolutely is. He just does, he's just too dumb to realize what it is. I do envy this though Like if I can get 20% of this I'm gonna start reading 410 biographies from the worst people in the fucking world
Starting point is 00:47:17 Tiny tiny tap of a hammer Right about your hairlines Yeah Take care a lot of this Little cobbler's hammer Little mini cobbler's hammer A little lepricons hammer Yeah that's right
Starting point is 00:47:28 A wee tap We talk about the hard reset Which is taking one of those massage guns to the temple. Just every, like once every three months gives you a nice little baseline. Well, it's also, like, as a former Christian, this is what pisses me off so much about American evangelicals buying into these fucking guys, like Trump and Musk and whoever. And, like, because it's so antithetical to all of Christianity.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Like, what do you mean you don't think about, you don't introspect or think about other people and how your actions affect them? That's like the whole entire thing. It's the whole thing. It's the whole game. It's so crazy. They don't play it or they try not to. I'm pulling up a quote.
Starting point is 00:48:13 I think Jesus says, Blessed be the, oh, just prophets. Blessed be the profitable and the prophets that they make. Your prophets. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I do think this is probably true of Donald Trump. Do you guys, would you say that he is incapable of introspection? Like it does, I do like just the story that we got yesterday of him coming out and being like, and I'm hearing from, you know, he wants this war to not be unpopular with literally everyone besides Lindsay Graham and BB Netanyahu. And so he was like a president, a former president said, way to go.
Starting point is 00:48:54 You're winning. You're doing great. I think he just has like a little chorus of hypothetical people and probably voices in his head. And I do think those things telling him he's doing a good job is introspection. Yeah. Right. I don't think he has empathy, but I think, yeah, I think he has introspection or obviously he has, yeah, people that he's obsessed with that he wants to be more like. You know, it probably for all these guys all goes back to their dads.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I mean, it's just right there. Yeah. This is all daddy issues ruining this fucking world. Are you guys able to hear this? Every president knew. I've spoken to a certain president who I like. actually, a past president, former president. He said, I wish I did it. I wish I did.
Starting point is 00:49:38 But they didn't do it. I'm doing it. Yeah. I can't tell you that. I don't want to embarrass it. It would be very bad for his career, even though he's got no career. Oh, my God. I mean.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Which president? If true, it's Biden. I'm actually shot on media even asked that fucking simple question. Yeah. Shit that totally happened for 400, Alex. And then I talked to the president. He said that it's good and I really wanted to do it. A dead guy.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Maybe he had a little ceremony. Yeah, and the doc Miles was suggesting that it was Andrew Jackson coming back to like the ghost of Andrew Jackson. Just being channeled. Yeah. It, yeah, everybody was immediate like, which president? Like Peter Ducey of Fox News like tried to get him to answer it later. And he kept being like, no, I can't tell you that. It would be very bad for his career.
Starting point is 00:50:32 like that's something he gives this shit about. It's not so crazy that one, he thinks one of the portraits in the White House talk to him. That's true. I could definitely see that. Or Stephen Miller just cut the mouth out of one of the
Starting point is 00:50:48 portraits who has been talking to him. Well, have you heard those theories that his team like the outside operatives do give him like AI information or put him on calls with fake people.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Oh. Like, have you heard that theory? Because now I'm like, I'll believe anything. Yeah. Because it would work on it. Why not? You know what I mean? Like, why wouldn't you be like, here's a FaceTime with Obama.
Starting point is 00:51:17 And then it's just AI Obama going, I wish I had done that, Mr. President. And he's like, the whole country is, the whole world is just being run like a Facebook comment section. Right. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, he has retweeted AI. stories about himself inventing
Starting point is 00:51:35 like med pods or med beds like those beds that are like from sci-fi where you can just like sit there and live forever. From Prometheus. Yeah. Call a Nick Offerman
Starting point is 00:51:45 because it would work. You know what I'm saying? You're welcome. You're welcome for that. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. My heart and TikTok have come together to create something new.
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Starting point is 00:52:50 Keep It Posit, Sweetie creates space for honest conversations on self-worth, love, growth, and navigating life with grace and grid led by women who uplift, inspire, and tell the truth out loud. I have several conversations with God, and I know why. It took 20 years. To hear these and more, listen to Keep It Pies's Sweetie on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. It's the new me, and it's the old them. Everybody's on their journey. And your journey is different to this. This Woman's History Month, the podcast, if you knew better with Amber Grimes, spotlights women who turn missteps into momentum and lessons into power.
Starting point is 00:53:29 I think coming out of where I came from, I'm from the Bronx, I think I grew up really poor. I didn't know that then because I very much used my creativity to romance. I'm like, my mom did a really good job of like, you step back and you're like, whoa, we, I don't know how we made it. So a lot of my life was like built out of like survival to get to the next place. Like my drive, my like tunnel vision of like, I got to be better. I got to achieve this was off the strengths of like I want to make a better life for us. If you knew better brings real talk from women who've lived it, unpacking career pivots,
Starting point is 00:54:05 relationship lessons, and the mindset shifts that changed everything. Listen to if you knew better with Amber Grimes on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. All right, son. Time to put out this campfire. Dad, we learned about this in school. Oh, did you now? Okay. What's first?
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Starting point is 00:54:40 because only you can prevent wildfires. Brought to you by the USDA Forest Service, your state forester and the ad council. What's up? I'm Miles Turner. And I'm Brianna Stewart. And our podcast, Game Recognized Game, has never been done before. Two active players giving you a real look at our lives and what we actually think, on and off the court.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Nothing's off limits. We talk trade requests. What's the vibe of that when it's like, Your star player is like, well, I want to leave. And then actually now I'm going to stay. We talk tanking. I mean, honestly, like, I might get in trouble for this answer, but I think it's, like, definitely happening in the WBA.
Starting point is 00:55:18 And yeah, we talk about our mistakes, too. They pulled me to the side and was like, hey, man, we got a call last night, man. You can't be rolling around the city like this tonight before games, no, you know, doing this, doing whatever. And of course, family stories. They'll be like, mommy, why did you miss that? Mind you play basketball?
Starting point is 00:55:39 Check out Game Recognized game with Stulian Miles on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. I do feel like, you know when they talk about actors whose faces have seen, like that actor can't be in a historical movie because they have a face that has seen an iPhone. Oh, yeah. I feel like Donald Trump has a face that has seen like a Jacob Marley-esque. ghost of like trains that has like visited him, you know? That's the vibe I get off of him
Starting point is 00:56:19 that he's definitely been visited by like I feel like he's been visited by like the ghost of Christmas past future and present like every night. Like so many of them. And he has not sunk in at all. Nothing. All right. Let's talk DJ Tanner.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Will you guys full house fans? Um, yeah. Sure. Yeah. But I also liked Candice Cameron. as a child. Yeah. Like she was very, you know.
Starting point is 00:56:47 The Cameron family. Of the girls that were, of course, yeah, because we loved Kirk as a heartthrob, but that they're just all over the teen mags, you know? Yeah. And I just loved her look. I thought she was so cool. I love that. Her brother was so hot.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Like, they really took a turn. And they were, but they were like big, like, open, like, Kirk Cameron especially was like a big, like, I'm going to say it. Loud and proud. I'm a Christian, like type. Not early, early on. Really? Oh, no, because I was a kid Christian, I would have, I would have attached myself to that so much.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Yeah. Yeah. It felt like a reinvention. It was later for sure. I remember it coming up when, like, there were episodes where he freaked out because he and his girlfriend were like asked to kiss and he, or like something like that. Maybe there was a premarital sex, like storyline. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:38 And he was like, not going to do it. And I remember that being a story. like at the time. I think even as a kid, and I did hear those stories, I thought, like, this is a sign.
Starting point is 00:57:50 I was not going to be a long-term Christian, but I thought maybe this guy's in the closet. And then he's like, you know, because that did happen with a lot of teen heartthrobs where they're like, I don't want to kiss on screen for whatever reason. And then they come out later.
Starting point is 00:58:03 And you're like, yeah, because it's not attracted to girls. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Anyways, Candice, Cameron, Bure.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Yeah, Burret. It's like the Powell Barre. She's married to a hockey player, I think. Not the famous one. She has a podcast every single week where they, like, you hear
Starting point is 00:58:25 some wild shit. Like she has mentioned before that she's like scared of having scary movies on in her house because to her that's just a portal. She's like, this is a direct quote. Listen, I'm in the film industry. I understand how
Starting point is 00:58:41 all works. I know that movie, uh, I know that movie has a crew of 200 people and they're lighting it and they're adding the sound effects and it's makeup and the camera, people and actors. However, there's still something that can be incredibly demonic while they've made it. She's like, I don't want to watch that shit. I'm not going to open my house up to a portal to hell. I guess fair enough. Yeah. I mean, that's, you know, she's also said she's like weirded out by the visual of God watching. her having sex. Or when that train comes at her and she has to duck underneath it.
Starting point is 00:59:18 She's freaked out by that. But I'm freaked out by that too. Like, I don't want God watching me have sex. Okay. Well, I will have got to say, to her credit,
Starting point is 00:59:29 this is some more classic 80s Christianity, you know, that we've totally lost touch with. Because the idea was, yeah, if you, I wasn't supposed to watch any movies over, like,
Starting point is 00:59:39 rated G. and even then, you know, some of my pastors would be like, well, Disney's evil too, and they're trying to control your mind. But it was like that because we could be controlled by the media and then by, you know. Yeah. Because the government's controlling the media and they want to control our brain. And we've just lost all of that. Like now it's like, no, listen to the government. They're doing the right thing.
Starting point is 01:00:04 They got it all. Now the Christians are in charge, Amy. I feel like, did. Was it like a 70s, 80s fad of believing in demons, like specifically so concretely? Yeah, I was going to say. So that actually ties really nicely into this clip that we have this week from Candacea Cameron, because very 80s energy here, she went to one of these demonic Hollywood sex parties that we're always hearing about.
Starting point is 01:00:38 I've been to parties in Hollywood. I haven't come across one of these, but she somehow accidentally found herself there. I'm going to share this clip with you guys. I just want to get your thoughts on. Do you buy it? Do you think this is real? I mean, listen, I have some really weird, embarrassing moments,
Starting point is 01:00:55 although I shouldn't say embarrassing. For me, they are more shameful of going to places where I thought, like, oh, this person's a friend, and I'm going to be cool and do this. And, yeah, I went to a party. once with Val because we were married and it ended up being this underground party that was an S&M like sex thing that was so dark and demonic and we walked in and my eyeballs were popping out of my head because I saw stuff I've never seen before in my life and I'm looking at Val going like
Starting point is 01:01:30 how are we here what is happening and the one person that invited us but we made a hard U-turn yeah and walk What's going on? What is happening? Right out of there and it just was like so slimy and weird. And I was like, we're going to pause before we ever say yes to going out with that friend again. We just had no idea what we were walking into and it was so disgusting and gross. She saw things she never saw before, like men going down on women. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:03 What do we think she? Do you think this was just like a Halloween costume party? Or do you think she actually like got invited to? Oh, yeah. Right. Like any Hollywood Halloween party would be demonic. It's possible that it was an S&M party. And then, you know, there are some things that happened that would might freak her out.
Starting point is 01:02:25 You know, if someone had an animal mask or there were whips involved. But it's like, you know, I mean, who knows? That is amazing. Shout out to her friend who was like, you know what? she'd like to do. Yeah. I will also just say, like, I mean, look, I have
Starting point is 01:02:43 limited but not zero experience with people who go to sex parties, and all of them that I know personally are the least demonic people I've ever. They're huge nerds mostly. Yeah. I'm just like, I don't know, guys. But they do like
Starting point is 01:02:59 costumes sometimes, Andrew. Yeah. I'm not saying costumes and consent. Maybe she had never seen people asking for consent. That must be a demon. That is against the word of God. You're making eye contact with each other.
Starting point is 01:03:15 That makes sense because it's like the idea with demons and vampires and a lot of evil entities. They have to ask permission to get in. So maybe she just saw like a man in leather and an animal mask asking for consent. And she's like, no, don't tell him.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Yes. Don't ask. You have your soul. Yeah, don't ask. Victor points out that her story does sound like a very special episode of Full House. God, the specialist. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:42 The most special episode of Full House of all time. Anyways, shout out to whoever her friend was who thought she was cool. That's funny. I really am waiting for whoever this person is to come out and be like, it was a dinner party. We were doing cocaine, and that really freaked her out. Oh, man. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:04 And finally, it's time to talk big. That's right. So Bigfoot's having a bit of a moment. First of all, Amber Ruffins, Bigfoot, the musical, opened off Broadway and is getting good reviews. There have been multiple Bigfoot sightings in Ohio in the past week. There's a new Bigfoot emoji. Technically, it's called Hairy Creature for some reason, but it's definitely Bigfoot. So that that's dropping with like whatever than a new Apple update is. And at South by Southwest, a new documentary dropped called Capture. Bigfoot and it provides startling new evidence that the famous footage of Bigfoot strolling through the woods, the 1967 Patterson Gimlin film, is 100% faped. I didn't realize like how load-bearing that video was. Yeah. That is like the video that everybody's like. I just want to say I teased it earlier.
Starting point is 01:05:02 I just want to say my friend who believes in Bigfoot, because my big thing is like, There is like 4K trail cams out now. There's cameras everywhere. How do we never see in another Bigfoot? And his answer has always been, no, big feet are so intelligent they can avoid cameras and disable them. Yeah. Which is wild. They work for Trinstone or whatever that born company is.
Starting point is 01:05:27 They work for that company. But there's still plenty of areas of mostly undiscovered forests that are. hard for humans to get to. I don't not believe. I love that. I mean, because every time there's a new, like, deep, uh, deep sea creature that's photographed for the first time and then they're like, oh, it's 200 years old or whatever. And, like, I'm like, okay, I think, I think that it's possible there's some forest creature
Starting point is 01:05:56 that we haven't really photographed yet, but maybe someone has seen with their own eyes. My favorite bigfoot. I don't think he's in Ohio. I'll say that. just outside Cincinnati. The, my favorite Bigfoot detail, the thing that most made me want to believe
Starting point is 01:06:13 was an interview with Jane Goodall where they were like, you know, it somehow came up and she was like, yeah, so it's kind of weird. You know, every culture has a similar conspiracy theory
Starting point is 01:06:26 about like a Bigfoot in there. Like I've gone to, you know, these really remote tribes who, You need to take three planes to, like, get to them. They're completely cut off. And they have a Bigfoot mythology. Like, every different culture has one.
Starting point is 01:06:45 I mean, counterpoint, though, it's like the least deviation from seeing another person as far as a mystical being could possibly be. Like, oh, what did you see? A guy. A little bigger. A tall hairy guy. Tall hairy naked. I'm just saying. So the thing that's in this documentary is, first of all, was already revealed back in a Fox special called Fox's World's Greatest Hokes, Secrets Finally Revealed, back of the 90s.
Starting point is 01:07:17 But in that, the guy who was in the suit named Bob Hieronymus said that he was paid $1,000 to don the suit. And for several people were just like, yeah, I don't know. That sounds like, it was on Fox. Nobody respected Fox at the time, so that people were just like it's not been officially debunked. Also, a man is named Bob Hieronymus? Hieronymus. Get the hell out of here. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:07:44 I know a Joe Hieronymus. He lives in Portland. It's true. One of the great names. It's crazy. One of the great possible names, like the greatest possible name. But so the director of this new movie was contacted by a woman who found an old canister of 16 millimeter film belonging to her late father. which appears to be like a rehearsal for the Bigfoot film
Starting point is 01:08:07 where it's like a slightly skinnier looking big foot walking into the woods and her father has always been kind of one of the, I think he was the person who presented it. And so that's the thing that is making people. She believes her father had the film developed for Roger Patterson and Robert Gimlin, who are the people who officially presented it, to the world.
Starting point is 01:08:33 One time my ex-boyfriend caught me really, really high and fully nude going to the kitchen for a snack. And he took a side photo of that and then put it next to that big foot image. And I'm like literally in this exact same position with my arms.
Starting point is 01:08:53 And it's one of the funniest and most crucial things. It's such an iconic shot. It's like up there with like the Beatles on the Abbey Road cover, like mid-stride for mid-stride photos. Yeah, I was mid-stride snack. But it contains, the new documentary also contains an interview with Patterson's son. So this is the guy who like brought the footage forward who says that his family had previously refused to speak about it because the clip generated millions of dollars in
Starting point is 01:09:29 licensing fees over the years. realize, but those are, every time you see that, it's being licensed. Get out there and fake some cryptids. Well, did you guys ever watch the documentary series about Humboldt and like weed farmers up in Humbold? Oh, it's really fascinating. It's really fucking scary. Like, you know, a lot of people disappear up there, never to be heard from again. But there's a chunk of it where they kind of talk to, you know, seemingly.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Yeah, or just like ask about Bigfoot as just a part of this. Yeah, well, yeah, as one of the reasons that these people are disappearing and not being murdered by my like drug dealers. I mean, it can be both, which is that weed barren Bigfoot is out there. Yeah, that's right. There's like seemingly. Bigfoot's a kingpin. Normal smart people that live in Humbold that are scared of both the drug dealers and Bigfoot, you know, like they're like, no, I mean, either one could kill you. I just want to throw this out there.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Bigfoot versus drug dealers is a pretty good movie idea. Yes. Maybe they're working in concert and they give him free weight. Well, at the end, yeah. But not at the beginning. But he like takes over. It's like a scarface thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:47 The rise and fall of drug dealing big foot. Not a fall. And he swim. I feel like he. That's a really good question. I feel like he's more likely to live on it in like a coastal forest where one of the ways he can disappear is by dipping into the water. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:11:05 It's a great theory. I think he's got to swim. Yeah. Bigfoot got to swim. He's so lanky, you know. Like an Olympic swimmer, they always have those long arms. He's like Michael Phelps. That's true.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Maybe he's like Feltzian. Really bad drag. Yeah. Really bad drag on the head. Well, he shaves himself down for competition. Yeah. That's actually my conspiracy theory is that who, that's who Michael Phelps is.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Yeah. Okay. Shave down Bigfoot. But the theory in this documentary kind of like it puts a heroic spin on it because like Roger Patterson was like kind of a con artist type of guy. But he knew that he was dying. He died in 1972. And in like 1968, he had like sort of a terminal diagnosis and was just like I want
Starting point is 01:11:54 to leave my family some something to take care of them. And like, what a brilliant way to do. that to be like, I'm going to create the best Bigfoot, like, footage. And then they're just going to, like, have to license it over and over and over again. And it worked. His family, you know, was able to make money off of it. That's what it's all about. That's what it's all about.
Starting point is 01:12:17 I still want to believe. This is the American dream. Truly. It's like tricking other Americans into believing something that's not real and then making money off of it. Yeah. I mean, it really is the backbone of our society. You're going to be shocked to learn that some members of the Bigfoot community are blasting the new movie calling it a sleazy deceptive production. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Yeah. They wouldn't know. They're saying that Patterson's son was paid by producers to lie about the film's authenticity. So, you know, we all just want to believe. Give us something to believe in. Amy, always such pleasure having you on the Daily Zakey case. Where can people find you, follow you, all. that good stuff.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Just follow me on Instagram at Amy Miller Comedy. And then my website is amyemeylickcom. And that has all my dates. And you can sign up for my mailing list that I don't send very often. So you don't have to worry. Almost never, I would say. There you go. Don't sign up.
Starting point is 01:13:16 I'm really good at my job. You can sign up and there will be no consequences. Yeah. Amazing. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yeah. Wait, can I play a video because I never have done this before? It is Irish related.
Starting point is 01:13:33 But it's also in the forest. So kind of the original 80s Irish Spring commercial. Oh, yeah. I hadn't seen in so long. And it's one of those things that you're like, oh, this is embedded in my brain like every word of it. But it is so fucking weird. Like it is like the whole promise of Irish Spring soap was that it was the manly soap.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Right. Because it had two deodorants in it. when it was for like, you know, for manly outdoors he met. Fellows, let's face it, you smell like shit. You probably stepped in shit already today. He's nude. He's camping, I guess. He's using an outdoor shower.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Is it an outdoor shower? I always pictured him taking a shower like basically under a waterfall. Is that wrong? It's an outdoor shower. It kind of looks like that was my memory too. It kind of looks like he's on a campground. But he's slicing up the soap. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:31 I remember like that hunting knife. Like whatever genius marketer came up with slicing with soap with a hunting knife is like such a sensory memory for me. Totally. Because I would do it all the time. You know? Then I'm in the bath of the butter knife just cutting up the soap for no reason. And my mom's like, stop cutting soap. Stop it.
Starting point is 01:14:53 But two women come up on horses at the end, two Irish lassies. Oh, hell yeah. And they're like, we like it too. So he's not in such a remote location that, you know, these women can roll up and see him naked. But it's just so funny. Shout out to the Irish, you know. That's the whole episode. The fighting Irish, just a bunch of angry little leprechauns.
Starting point is 01:15:19 The most dignified way to depict that. Also fighting in that old school style. Exactly. Fistakuffs. Yeah. Fis. dukes up, boy oh. Andrew, where can people find you as their work in media?
Starting point is 01:15:33 You've been enjoying. I don't know, man. I have a podcast, suboptimalpots.com. It's called Starter Track. It's really fun. I'm going to be honest. This was a bit of a last minute edition for me. The answer is no.
Starting point is 01:15:48 I have not watched one single thing since the last dog. I barely had a piece of media. I'm sorry. You can find me on Twitter. at Jack underscore O'Brien. I forgot my last name. Blue Sky, Jack O, B, the number one. Instagram, Jack, underscore O, underscore Brian,
Starting point is 01:16:07 because I am bad at social media. This is something that I just looked at my most recent likes on Twitter, and one of them is Jenny Nicholson. If Bigfoot was real, that wouldn't even be that exciting. It's so true. Why are we concerned about this? You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zekeyes.
Starting point is 01:16:28 at The Daily Zekegeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of the episode wherever you're listening to it, and there at the bottom you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy when Miles isn't here.
Starting point is 01:16:43 We do like to ask super producer Justin Connor. Justin, is there a song that you think that people might enjoy? Yeah, this is a song by a South African rock band. It has heavy shades of folk rock and bluegrass melodies. But it's over some complex African rhythm. So it's got a really interesting texture and would probably work really well on like a road trip playlist or something like that. So this is Maigamali Mansa Musa.
Starting point is 01:17:10 I probably butcher that pronunciation. This is by Blackjacks. Thank you so much, Amy. This is by Blackjacks. That's spelled B-L-K-J-K-S. And you can find that in the footnotes. That's how you coolly misspell something. That's not Deals, D-E-E-E-L-S.
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