The Daily Zeitgeist - RIP, IG Shoppers 2.6.20

Episode Date: February 6, 2020

In episode 564, Jack and Miles are joined by Go Fact Yourself podcasts J. Keith van Straaten to discuss the State of the Union, Instagram pulling in more revenue than Youtube, social detoxing, Chris Rock's Saw reboot, top Valentine candies by state, and more!FOOTNOTES: Fact-checking the 2020 State of the Union Trump’s State of the Union suggests he’s worried about Bernie Sanders Trump Goes On Twitter Tear Over Pelosi Ripping Up His Speech Instagram Brings In More Than a Quarter of Facebook Sales Social Detoxing and Solitude: Alone, Lonely, or Aloneliness? Chris Rock's 'Saw' Reboot Offers Up First Twisted Trailer Most Popular Valentine's Candy by State [Interactive Map] WATCH: Shark Tank - Out For A Rip Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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nfl fantasy football podcast on the iheart radio app on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 119 episode 4 of your daily zeitgeist a production of i heart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck the Coats Brothers and fuck Fox News. It's Thursday, February 6th, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I'm a Jack. I'm O'Brien. I'm ex-crack. Fox News lying. Buddha judges CIA. I am not second rate. That is courtesy of Spag Bourgeoisie.

That's probably not how he's pronouncing that. Gin Champion 3000. Spag Bowl, like Spag Bowling. Yeah, maybe. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Do-do-do-do-do-do. Do-do-do-do-do. I don't want to wait for these caucus results to be handed over.

I can't fucking wait to know who the one. I just had to say that off the top because I was just thinking of Iowa. I don't want to wait for it. And that was my thought process. That was just a homebrew AKA. That's why I leave it to the listeners at home to come up with the real shit. I do like that we were from the same era. Yeah.

Yeah. Miles. Yes. We're going on the road with our time machine. Super transportable time machine. Also, super producer Anna Hosnier. Super portable producer as well, also super producer Anna Hosnier, super portable producer Anna Hosnier, and some special guests. We're in Brooklyn at the Bell House on February 12th.

Who's the guest? Daniel O'Brien. From Cracked? Yeah, the very same. From the John Oliver writing room? Writer's room? Yes, sir. Okay.

We're going to be in Washington, D.C. February 13th at the Miracle Theater with Natalie McGill. Oh. Boom. Journalist? Yeah. And comedian? Yeah, yeah. What a blend.

Uh-huh. The very same. Minneapolis, February 25th at the Parkway Theater with POS. Uh-oh. Local legends only. Chicago, February 27th at Sleeping Village with, you guessed it, Daniel Van Kirk. I was hoping you were going to say someone like Ron Harper, but okay. Right.

And Toronto, the grand finale, February 28th at the Great Hall. The guest, so amazing. We can't announce it just yet. But it is Frank Ocean. Well, people are going to think it's Frank Ocean. Then when Drake comes out, they're going to boo us. Yeah. But hey, that's how we do things.

Yeah. So for tickets, go to dailyzeitgeist.com. Go to the live appearances tab and you'll find links there. And get your wallets out. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests here on the Daily Zeitgeist, Mr. J. Keith Van Straten. I'm a favorite. Or one of the favorites.

One of our favorites. That really just means I'm in the top half. Yes. I'm above the median. Well, once you get three under your belt, you're in there. What's the record? What's the most appearances for somebody? Jamie Loftus with 700,000.

Yes. I believe that is correct. I'm not going to win. It's actually more episodes than the show. Really? Yeah. I don't know how it worked out. She just sneaks in here and releases episodes of the Daily Psycho.

Then deletes them real quick. How are you doing, man? I'm doing great. Jamie was on my show, Go Fact Yourself. Oh, nice. She was awesome. I think it's currently the first episode. If you go to our podcast page, it's the one that's airing right now.

And it was great. We did a – so the format of our show was we have two guests. They tell us topics that they know a lot about, and then we pick one of them. We quiz them on that, and we bring out an expert in that field. You've done it as well. I have. You chose Jaws 2 as your topic. You chose Jaws 2 among three of my options.

All of them equally stupid, though. I won't – Don't think that we did not try to get members of the Wu-Tang Clan. It's not Wu-Tang stupid. No, no. We definitely did try to get the Wu-Tang Clan. We were told that they were on an airplane at that time.

And I'm sure that's the only reason that they did not appear. But for Jamie, listeners of her in any format, I will not be surprised that one of her topics was Zambonis. Yeah. The Zamboni machine. So we did a whole quiz about Zambonis and we got the ice technician from the LA Kings and

the guy who runs their practice facility who handles the ice and the Zambonis. Did she meet him? Yeah. No, we had them on the show. So we got to geek out about Zambonis for a while and then the Kings offered her a ride on a Zamboni. That's how that happened. See, we didn't know what happened. We just heard she had got to ride the Zamboni.

I don't know if it's actually happened yet. I don't know if she's dead. She has done the ride? Oh, we've got to talk about that. And she drove it into a wall. Oh, no. And it was a disaster. Just an instantaneous explosion.

I hope she updates her tattoo with that depiction because I think that would be entertaining. No, but it was one of those, you know, every once in a while, you know, we do this, we've done over 50 episodes of the show. No, but it was one of those, you know, every once in a while, you know, we do, we do this, we've done over 50 episodes of the show. And I would say maybe a quarter of them, there's a moment where the guest realizes what's happening and who their expert is and what they get to talk about. And there's just sort of a joining of souls. And this was one of those times.

Like she was just, she was so excited to talk about it and to meet these guys from the Kings. And then the Kings guys were so happy to talk. They love their job. They know they got a great gig. There aren't that many Zamboni fans out there. Yeah. And so, and they were thrilled to meet her. I'm so happy to talk. They love their job. They know they got a great gig. There aren't that many Zamboni fans out there. Yeah, and they were thrilled to meet him. I'm so happy to hear that they... I think they're called Zambronis. Is that right? Yes. Or Zambonistas.

Zambonistas. And so it was great that they were able to put that together. I got to meet one of the writers of Jaws 2. Yes. Very, very cool. The very accomplished writer. Yeah, you were shook after that. I know, I was. You came back like, I've seen it all. I've seen everything but God at this point.

You did very well, if I recall. Did you get all of your questions right? Yeah, I did. Yeah, you kind of aced your quiz. Jaws 2 was a movie that I watched hundreds of times as a youth. I skipped an NBA game. This is when my family knew that I would not be following in my grandfather and dad's legacy as a basketball guy because I skipped Dr. J's, I think one of his last games,

definitely his last game playing against one of my grandfather's teams to watch Jaws 2 because Jaws 2 was on TV that night and I played sick. Wow. I was like, yo, Jaws 2's on. Wait, how did the calculus work? You knew, you saw that it was going to play and you're like, oh, fuck, but I got to do this thing tonight. Right. Engage malingering.

Yes, exactly. Wow. Stayed in, watched it, totally worth it. Yeah. Yeah. Good job. I mean, I didn't care about it. And you actually watched the movie,

I believe the week prior to your appearance on the show. Yeah. Which I'm shocked that more guests do not do. I claimed that I watched it for the movie, I believe, the week prior to your appearance on the show. Yeah. Which I'm shocked that more guests do not do. I claimed that I watched it for the show, but actually I would have watched it anyways. I just watch it every week. Because there was something else you were trying to avoid that night. He watches it in 15 minutes. And actually, it influenced my wardrobe because Chief Brody has a short pair of khaki shorts in that,

and I was like, man, he looks good in those shorts. And it was summertime, so I went and got a short pair of khaki shorts and couldn't pull it off. Bailed on him? Bailed. It really would have been great for the podcast, for people to know that you were wearing it. No one knows.

Everyone just sounds uncomfortable. They're like, I don't know what it was about that episode. I felt like J.P. was off. Everyone seemed distracted. The khaki shorts and the performance fleece top. Right. It's just a combination. That's right.

When everyone started speaking, anytime they started speaking, they'd go, huh. So. I don't know what it is, but I'm uncomfortable. Well, we've got to get you guys on, Miles and Anna. We've got to have you on a future episode. I can't wait. So we'll put that together. I'd be interested to hear what you guys' areas of expertise.

I mean, I know what Anna's. Ace Ventura 2 and Nature Calls. Right. There you go. Got to be a movie. There's so many weird things that I'm very similar in a way to Jack where I would be like, oh, I got to watch this real quick. I don't care what's going on.

Anna's, I'm sure The Bachelor would be in there. Maybe a little Mr. Rogers. Yeah. Anyways. The rest of this episode is just gonna be about Anna let's talk about what we're talking about and then we'll get to know you a little bit better Jake he's we're talking about the State of the Union

wow one burner that I did not watch at all I did watch the mainstream media coverage of it. And it was just like, Ooh, she dragged him. He dissed her, uh, just bullshit covering it.

Like it's a celebrity feud. Uh, we're going to talk about Instagram pulling in more revenue than YouTube. Now, uh, the trailer for spiral, the new saw movie, uh,

we're going to talk about America's favorite Valentine's candies. But first, Jay Keith, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are, Fred? It's more revealing than I would have thought I would have revealed. I, for reasons I cannot explain, collect items that depict a Sanrio character named Botsmaru, who is an angry little penguin. Yes. He's in the Hello Kitty family. Yes. I've been doing it for 25 plus years.

I have no idea why or what about it appeals to me, but my entire bathroom is done in the style of Batsmaru. It's the Batsmarum or the Bathmarum. Wow. Really? Yes. Well, because I've had to try to – I've had so many items and then also especially Wow, really? so I don't go broke or crazy is I only buy myself items that are actually functional. Because if you just go decorative, you're going to go broke. So I get a pen or a towel or a toothbrush holder or whatnot.

So my latest thing is I, of course, already have a Batz Maru bath mat. But it's getting a little worse for the wear. So I wanted to look for one that was more quality. So one of my more recent Google searches is Batsumaru bath mat. And something's coming in the mail for me next week. I remember growing up like Japanese, Sanrio, you know, it was like a big, big thing. And like people only knew Hello Kitty very narrowly or Keropi or something. Right.

When Batsumaru came on, I was like, okay, this dude has a little bit of edge to him. So then that was one of the first pencil boxes I took out. Oh, okay. It was a Batsumaru came on, I was like, okay, this dude has a little bit of edge to him. So then that was one of the first pencil boxes I took out. Oh, okay. It was a Batsumaru one. Very interesting to hear that you have an entire bathroom to this. This is fantastic. There's a soap holder. Very interesting to hear.

There's a whole shelving that has some of the purely decorative items that I had gotten before. Hand towels. A lot of clocks. I love that. Of course. Those are some of my favorite things to that I had gotten before. Hand towels. A lot of clocks. I love that. Of course. Those are some of my favorite things to get. I bought some real clocks. And yeah, and then unfortunately, I have a couple of cats,

and so a lot of stuff gets knocked over and broken a lot also. I just recently lost a little teacup set that I had that I'm a little heartbroken. He looks a little like Bart Simpson as a penguin. I could see that. Yeah. So a few Halloweens ago, I bought myself, you'll probably know the Japanese term, but one of those full body

not a furry costume exactly, but sort of like a full body footie pajama thing, but like with the head. Oh, sure, sure, sure. I forget the name of what those kind of things are called. And I wore it out for Halloween. And the first year maybe one person knew about Smiru and generally kind of ignored it and then I

started getting people thinking I was an angry bird. Oh shit. And that made me a very angry bird. And you're like no I'm not. No I'm Batsamaru. Batsamaru. But I've helped to amortize the cost because I've now worn it I believe for three or four Halloweens. Great. So it's paid for itself. Yeah. Now does he

ever smile? No. He'll do. I've not seen him smile. He'll do a thing where... I don't know if this is a cultural thing from Japanese or if it refers to anything specific, but he'll do a thing where he'll pull his eyelid down. Like, he'll pull one of his eyes down. And I think that's supposed to show him, like, being a little cheeky. Yeah, like you're taunting someone like that.

Yeah. But other times, he just looks sort of angry and badass. And also, he's got a girlfriend who's a seal named Hanamaru. Oh, that's his girlfriend? Yeah, and he's only six, so this guy's a player. Yeah. But in Penguin years, that's 42. Okay, maybe.

He's from Gorgeous Town. I mean, clearly. Yeah, he's got a panda friend. He's got a crocodile or alligator friend. He's doing his thing. He's doing his thing, man. I'm looking at drawings of him hugging his girlfriend and being hugged by Hello Kitty and just not even having it one little bit.

Yeah. Just unhappy. And he's had quite a career. I mean, he's been an astronaut. He's been a basketball player. He's been a scientist. Six years. What a run.

Six years in the game. Six years old, yeah. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated? I'm going to go with bulkhead seats. Bulkhead seats on airplanes. A lot of people are very excited to get the front row. They feel like they want the extra legroom.

I guess you have easier access to get off of the plane. But you can't have your bag down there during takeoff and landing. No, can't have it down there. And then sometimes you get to the bulkhead seat and all the overhead bin is already taken up. They're supposed to save you space just for the bulkhead seat, but they don't do that. But even worse nowadays,

with all these passenger shaming, you know, Twitter accounts and all that, you see so many people who just put their socked feet or bare feet up on the wall in front. And then there was this video I saw a few weeks ago where a dude was in the bulkhead seat and was using his bare feet to scroll through the touchscreen IFE, inflated entertainment screen on there. I don't want to be anywhere near that or all that. Plus, you also get that weird, like, quasi-robotic tray table that you can get out of the armrest.

Yeah. That you'll dislocate your shoulder trying to get out. Yeah, and then, you know, I'm not a svelte man as I used to be, and so you don't really have a lot of room to push it around. It's very wobbly. There's like five folds that need to happen before it gets out. Yeah, it looks sort of like when you see this footage of before the Wright brothers got their plane going,

of people building this armature, like covering canvas, trying to, you know, to get a plane that's wings flat. I was like, I can't believe this is the best technology that we have. And all that for like maybe three extra inches of leg room. But also you're just staring at a wall the whole time.

Also, but sometimes that wall, because it's just one flat panel, you might not actually get as much if you could kind of get your feet underneath the seat in front of you. Sometimes I hit it and I'm like, dude, I'm actually not getting more. Yeah. That's why the exit roll I like.

Sometimes you need something to resist, but also just entertainment wise, you're just staring at a wall the whole time. And maybe then you get to be even more jealous of the people in first class because of, you know, it's the first row of economy. But then you miss out on seeing what the people in front of you are doing. And I don't know why, but one of my favorite things to do on a plane is to see if there's entertainment screens, I want to know what other people are watching. And I can't do that if there's a wall in front of me. Or if the people in front of me are making out or if they're being drunk or whatnot. So you miss

out on the people watching. Or maybe you're lucky enough and you get a seat that does have a screen and someone's just crip walked all over it with their bare feet. And you can just be like, yeah. That is a good use of social media is to shame people who are – Yes and no. I mean, I think it's good to point out that, hey, this is something we don't like. But a lot of times my response to that is, oh, well, have you tried to confront them about that or notified the flight attendant or said, hey, that's not cool? And it's like, no, I'll just post some anonymous catty thing.

It's like I feel like that's sort of replaced. So you're saying we'll bring that same energy in real life. Yeah. Well, but I mean, I mean, you could, there's ways to do it and be polite. I was on a train the other day and, uh, I'm usually very good about keeping things quiet, but my, uh, you know, with my electronics and whatnot, but I was trying to share a video with my girlfriend. And so I had the volume up and the person behind came up and said, excuse me, could you please turn that volume down a little bit? And I was so proud of her. Right.

Like I wasn't like, no, F you. And I was like, absolutely, I'm sorry for bothering you. Yeah. That is a correct social interaction.

Yeah. And if she had just, you know, put a video of like, oh, look at this asshole. Right. Oh, hey buddy, we don't all want to hear

what's going on in the amazing race or, you know, whatever it was. But we do. Well, a bad example, obviously. That wouldn't have done anything. Yeah, but we do. Well, a bad example, obviously.

That wouldn't have done anything. Yeah, yeah. So the fact that I really encourage people to, in a polite, non-belligerent way, to take no for an answer if somebody goes crazy. But I think that's so much more important than just taking videos and all that. And then if they don't do it, then maybe you put it out on the Twitter. Yeah. At the same time, I do feel like that's one of those things where we need to be better citizens just in general, the way we treat. Like planes are – we should understand that planes don't get cleaned in between flights.

They get – they clean up the visible dirt. Yeah. They don't wipe any surfaces down. Right. The reason you get sick on a plane is not because the air isn't clean. It's because you're in a Petri dish.

You are sitting in the equivalent of a public trash can. I love it. By doing gross shit, like putting your feet up there, you're just being a bad citizen like that that needs to be something that we we're all in this together yeah we're all in this

together and like that we need to value that like being a better like more considerate person who like always takes their trash with them after that you know i'm this country man i'm saying you're like but like i like know, like in general, right? Culturally, it's not built into the fabric here of looking after each other or communal spaces. I feel like we could get there by the time we're all dead. I would love to. I would love to.

But I just know like... The attitude is very much like me. What I'm doing for me. Excuse you, make me. Like is a typical response. Excuse you, make me. Like, is a typical response. Excuse you, make me. Excuse you,

okay, make me turn this down. It's like, well, okay, cowboy. You know what, now that you say it,

maybe that should have been my response. Excuse you, make me. Yeah, go ahead, put me on live. Jay Keith, what's something you think is underrated?

Underrated, my favorite television show of all time, I was just in Baltimore and it reminded me of it, is Homicide Life on the Street. Wow. And it drives me crazy that it is not available on streaming. At the moment, I'm hoping that when this Peacock thing that NBC does, it'll be on there. But as far as I know, it's not on streaming. And I really miss it because I've watched The Wire, which is by a lot of the same people, like over and over because it's been on the HBO streaming and Netflix and

whatever else. And so I really miss having that. So I was in Baltimore with my cousin, and I was geeking out about it. And she said, oh, well, you know, if you want to go see where they shot it, like where the police station was, it's now this fancy hotel. And I was like, I kind of do. Oh, really? Yeah. So we went to the fancy hotel, and I got a picture of me out on the stoop.

Very cool. And I was expecting there to be a plaque or something. This is the location. Yeah. For six years. It was a great show. I think seven. But it's just interesting.

So many people have – I mean so many great things have come from the people who had worked on that show both behind the scenes, the people who ended up making The Wire and then of course Andre Brouwer and Ned Beatty was on that show. Melissa Leo now is an Oscar winner and all that stuff. And so I still think it's underrated and I'm happy happy to be proven wrong, but I can't watch it. So the only way to get it is on DVD. I don't remember the last time I played a DVD at my home. I think my player is connected. And the box that they made for it, it was at that time where they were making, they had to make like, because people would go to a store to see a box set,

so they had to catch their eye. So they made this giant locker to look like a police station locker room, which won't fit on any show or anything. It's like, I don't need to own it. I just wanted to watch it. It's in the freaking discs. Yeah, exactly. And then Netflix now, I don't have the, I don't know anyone who still has the, get the

actual discs in the mail thing. But the last time I had Netflix, I literally would wait because for some reason someone out – they only had I think one copy of season seven disc two. And some person out there was refusing to return it. So I waited for months to see it to finally figure out how – to finally be reminded how it ended. But anyway, just being in Baltimore and just reminding – being reminded of all the great people who have been on it, I still think it's underrated. And whenever people ask, what's your favorite show of all time? A lot of them are like, what? Hamasah.

What? The Joe Mantegna movie? You know, that kind of thing. Right. So I do think it's underrated. What years was it on? I'm going to say, I don't remember exactly. I'm going to say early to mid-90s.

I think like around 91-ish to 8-ish or so. Oh, okay. 93 to 99. Okay. That's is-ish to 8-ish or so. Oh, okay. 93 to 99. Okay, that's ish. And it had a lot of crossover episodes with Law & Order. They had special, like Robin Williams came and did an episode. I think he might have won an Emmy for that.

Was it procedural? Yeah. I just remember this as the Richard Belzer show. Yeah, you got the bells. That's my predominant memory. That's the one Richard Belzer. I thought that was the Law & Order show. Was he on that's what, that's my predominant memory. Oh, okay. Like that's the one Richard Bell's. I thought that was a Law and Order show. Was he on Law and Order? Later on.

He played the same character. Yeah, right. Oh, shit. There's like, I think, I forget what he's up to, but I think there's eight or nine shows where he's played Munch. So there's just like a massive,

like shared universe of cop shows? Yeah. All right. Well, I got to check that out. That's much later than i thought i thought it was like an 80s holy shit he's the third actor ever to play the same character in six different prime time shows well because they did he did it he recurred i think on arrested development i think there was there was like a sitcom arrested development is in the same universe as homicide

he played the same character and then on I think on 30 Rock he also played 30 Rock 30 Rock he played Munch and there was another comedy as well where he came I think it was a live action

The Beat on UPN yeah okay I'm out what's the what's the medical drama that ends with a St. Elsewhere yeah

with a child on the spectrum yes and you realize the whole thing has been imagined by the child is that right? Yes.

Which also means because there was some crossover episode where they went on Cheers or something like that means that all of that also was a dream. Was all in the same. And was Belzer on that? I don't believe so. No. Okay. No.

But that, yeah, that's an interesting one. Yeah. That's because George Wendt was doing it on Cheers, St. Elsewhere, the Tortellis, Wings, The Simpsons, and Frasier. Right. The same character? All of that. And John Ratzenberger, too. Right.

The same character? Yeah. Wow. Playing Cliff and Norm. Right. On six different shows. Which means if it was all a dream on St. Elsewhere, that means all of that was a dream. It was all a dream.

Used to read Word Up magazine. There you go. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? That's an excellent question that I... oh, here's what it was. A thing I think people think is true that is false is that soup plantation is lame and only for old people. I loves me some soup plantation. Okay.

I think they're high-quality items for the most part. The pizzas are a little sketchy. They're very well-staffed. The pizzas at soup plantation? Yeah. They make pizza there? Go for the little part. The pizzas are a little sketchy. They're very well staffed. The pizzas at Soup Plantation? They make pizza there? Go for the little ice creams. To be fair, I don't know if they actually

call them pizzas. I think they call them like cheesy breads or something like that. So they're not totally in. But I get cravings every once in a while where I just got to get me

some Soup Plantation. And I love, I like, like I said, just the quality of the ingredients. I like that you can hack different things together. I like that you can hack different, you know, different things together. I like to make my own little egg salad

with the crumbled hard-boiled eggs and some pickles and other stuff. One of the things that's lacking, one of the bad wraps, one of the bad wraps that it has is that it's hard to, it's hard to find a lot of meat because a lot of the,

because, you know, they've got to be economical, but how do you do that? So the trick is, you go to the chunky chicken noodle soup, because there's always big chunks of chicken in that. You ladle that out and then all of a sudden

you put it on your macaroni. You got a chicken macaroni. You put it on the salad. You got a chicken salad. Hey, look, any time someone wants to undermine a plantation, I'm all for it.

Yeah. That is one of the things that I think would be... That's the one time you're like, ah, the name, but I love the little ice creams. Well, it's kind of funny

because there were two big chains for a while. There was soup plantation and soup exchange. And when you heard the idea of plantation, you're like ah the name but I love the little ice creams well it's kind of funny because there were two big chains for a while there was two plantation and soup exchange and when you heard the idea of plantation you're like well this is going to be

the one that fails why would you do plantation and then you think oh wait I'm supposed to bring in my old used soup and exchange it

for new soup soup exchange that's the only one possible worse idea that someone could have come up with they're coming in with those

10 gallon water drums like alright fill up. This is all used soup. But Soup Plantation does really good stuff. Their soups are really good quality. There's always a coupon you can find. Are they thriving elsewhere?

Because in LA, we only got like one. I know there's like that one in Brentwood. Oh, the one in Brentwood where I once saw OJ Simpson. Yes. In 1994. In 96, 97. There's the – it was 97. There's one at Beverly Connection on La Cienega in Beverly.

There's one there in the Beverly Connection? Yeah, the Beverly Connection. Yeah. Interesting. All focused on that part of town. Yeah. Only open until 9. I feel like if they wanted to do a supplantation after dark, if they like got like a beer and

wine license. Oh, boy. And then like upcharge like another $5. Sucharged another $5, I think that's my million dollars. Or Baywatch Nights. Yes, exactly. They also become detectives for some reason. Rich Belzers.

Yeah. It could be a dinner theater. Yeah, but I think Soup Plantation is kind of a punchline for a lot of people, and it's really enjoyable and not in an ironic way. Yeah. When I worked on the West Side more, I would sort of force everyone to go to Sioux Plantation if we had time because I was like, I'm making a bunch of soft serve.

I keep talking about the ice cream. Oh, the ice cream. Oh, with the cookie bar? Yeah, yeah. Chocolate chip cookie bar underneath. It's nice. I mean, that sounds really nice. Everyone can find something they want.

Girlfriends are vegetarians. You get something. I like the meat. I get something. What is the best? You're romantic about the antebellum salad? Again, it's not perfect.

The servers are, yeah. It's like, I like everything about the Angels baseball team except that the fact that they're called the Los Angeles Angels

of Anaheim. Why? That means I can still root for the team even though I don't like the title. It's very similar. Yeah, yeah. Hey, look, you know.

What's wrong with the Angels? Just the name of it. The owner renamed it the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. Oh, right. Got it, got it. But, you know, what's wrong with the Angels? Just the name of it. The owner renamed it the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. Oh, right. Got it. Yeah.

But, you know, I feel like the chunky chicken noodle soup is sort of the Mike Trout of soup plantation. Wow. Wow. OK. Bring it all back. All right. We're going to take a quick break.

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Huh? Oh, no. I know that's how I usually start off ads. It's also how I'm starting off this section... Bad habits. ...about the State of the Union, because I did not watch it. The only thing I've seen about it is that Trump made a lot of claims about how the best is yet to come. And it's been amazing thus far.

And that Nancy Pelosi tore up the speech. Yeah, that's all you really. I mean, look, it's there's never going to be anything useful out of the state of the union, especially with this president. It's just all it's just a fucking rally, just red meat party for the base. And also some fantastic pandering, some next level pandering for, uh, for the African-American vote. Uh, whether that was like, uh, bringing out a Tuskegee airman and then like giving him a promotion to, I think, brigadier general, they were, he brought up, uh, his He brought up his funding of historical black colleges and universities, talked about black unemployment, his favorite, favorite statistic, which is very interesting because you can

see that's sort of beginning to show a little bit of his strategy. He only got, I think, 8% of the black vote last time, and maybe he's thinking, if we can get a couple more, just kind of shift people each way. I was surprised just how many outright lies there were for a speech that he obviously read from a prompter. Right. Obviously been given attention to and vetted. And how much just demonstrably false stuff. Like there's stuff you can disagree with. There's the broad statements.

Right. Sure, that's massaging your vision and whatnot. But like just stuff about how stuff that he had said he had accomplished that had happened in the Obama administration. Or stuff that's just based on numbers that is so easy to look up. Yeah, like saying that, you know, prescription drugs had never been cheaper. It's like that's very misleading. I mean, on its face, when he says we will always protect patients with pre-existing conditions. Yes, pre-existing conditions, right.

Holy shit. When they're literally in court trying to fight against it. Trying to make the Affordable Care Act unconstitutional. But it doesn't matter. That's what hurts my heart so much. Yeah. It's like you have to look up things and pay attention to those things to know that, and most people don't and just, ugh.

Yeah, I mean— And there's the campaign ad of him just saying those things, whether it's true or not. Even though it's so easy to find out that it's not with his acquittal yesterday or today we are now in a presidency like i've read it described as like now the presidency uh like the office of the president has unprecedented power but that's not true it's this president has unprecedented power because no other president, or at least Republican presidents, because no Democratic president would be able to get away with shit, like nothing, without getting impeached.

So it's definitely this president. Also, he's willing to say just outright lies like he like he has – he doesn't have a shame gland. With a lot of confidence. Right. With a lot of confidence. And it's kind of a perfect machine for this modern world. There was still some of that slurring that was happening also, which I was a little surprised by. And I've not heard any coverage of, which I think really could be an issue if we made it that.

I mean there were those psychologists who were like- Neurologists. Our neurologists who got together and were like, you need to actually examine this. At one point he said stanktuary cities. Yeah. But that was actually just- That was written.

Oh, was it? Yeah. Taking shots at them. Yeah. Or like stanktuary cities. Because they got them stank on it. I thought it was an OutKast reference. Big stankonia fan.

Play track three. Yeah. That was an OutKast reference. Big stankonia, man. Play track three. Yeah, the other parts, too, were so, again, the pandering was transparent. When he literally reunited a military family with, like, a father who had been deployed and been like, yeah, well. Was it like a surprise? Yes. Yeah. In the fucking chamber. That was a great moment, though.

But it had nothing to do with you being president. I'm not mad not mad one bit at reuniting a family. TV programming. I am a little bit. Well I

you're mad that they were reunited? No no no but that the whole you know these viral videos go around about so and so was reunited at a baseball game or whatever else

and like obviously it's wonderful that I'm only distilling it down to its most essential thing that those humans have the experience. Everything outside of that I think is despicable. 100% is great. But in general, I have a problem with that because like, okay, he obviously didn't just arrive at that moment.

He probably came in the night before. Why not have those extra 13 hours? It's like, what? I just don't feel like seeing the advantages. Go back there and fight a war. Can you imagine like you're fighting a war somewhere. You're home. No, I would be pissed.

And they're saying, oh, you know what? Don't call or text your wife or children because we want to have this video moment. Yeah. I mean, it's like the Google Super Bowl. No, that's what I'm saying. Like, for the people, the actual act of the reunification of people just on its human essence, I like that. Obviously. I'm not a robot monster.

No, I think it's just like when it's done so just cynically, like it's just purely – it shows you again how he even views people who are serving in the military. Right. He's like, just dig somebody up I can bring out there and do one of those videos that go viral. Yeah. Except we're going to do it in the chamber. And, of course, that's one person coming home for a temporary amount of time as opposed to the thousands that are out there. Or considering what your policies and rhetoric are doing to put those people at even greater risk. I have to say, though, I was a little – just as a Democrat, I was a little jealous that, damn it, he did that.

None of us have thought about it before. Well, he's the only one – like, again, it's the lack of a shame gland. And that is becoming sort of the proper strategy, I think. Like the Google ad that everyone's like, it made me cry, man, is like,

that is just so, it's such transparent bullshit. Yeah. Like you haven't even demonstrated a thing that Google does that is useful in any way. Right. You pretty much could have had

the same ad with a tape recorder. Right, exactly. But they are, you know, you can get away with it by just creating viral videos. But you're right. He's going to this-is-us his way into fucking re-election.

Yeah, exactly. Right, but Obama never would have done that, not because he didn't want families to be reunited, because he didn't want to make it about him. Yeah, he's not deploying these people as merely pawns for him to exploit for his own personal gain, which has been the whole thing. And everything is, like, let me just go down a list of people to pander to. Right, and the Rush Limbaugh thing. That may be the worst thing I've ever seen. Yeah, just decorating America's favorite racist with a Freedom Medal.

Just like, what? Again, I mean, but this is what he's doing. Nothing has, he's taking the meaning out of institutions and these like awards and things like that. Because he deploys them just however he needs to for, you know, a good sound. But for people who don't pay attention, which is most people, you know, this look, there's a lot of stuff that looked and sounded great. You know, you got, this look, there's a lot of stuff that looked and sounded great. Yeah. You know, you got to hand it to him.

He was disciplined in terms of sticking to the script and not going off into crazy. Which is how the media will cover it. Right. As, you know, for Trump, this is great. This is the night that Trump became president. I was thinking about that too. I think, yeah, you don't go that far, but you have to say like, damn though like it based on how most people are going to take that that worked for him i think it's despicable but it's probably effective and on some but that is how the mainstream media is now covering like the entire world like everything that matters in

u.s politics like that's uh what i wanted to talk about next is just how the mainstream media is covering like not just the state of the union which was like uh what a sick burn by nancy pelosi and like the the sort of back and forth like war of words but like also how they're covering like the impeachment the the fact that uh doug jones is voting to convict they're like wow I can't believe he's doing that. That's really dumb. That's dumb. Right.

It's strategically questionable. With the Iowa caucus, they're not covering the class-based campaign or the class-based issues of Bernie Sanders. They're covering it from a horse race perspective. Like, what will the Democrats do to stop him? On MSNBC, they're like, Buttigieg is out in front. After a while, it's like with the incomplete results in. And also, like, if you look at everything else, what, aside from a good performance in Iowa is suggesting to you, aside from the panic over Joe Biden,

not doing well, right. Like there's something like, okay, dude, we got to, who are we going to like talk nice about? Cause it can't be Bernie.

Right. I mean, yeah. The surprising thing I think is how many people didn't vote for a Democrat. Like the, the democratic field no longer has a Democrat candidate that has a very clear path. You have Bloomberg, who's a Republican, who seems like he might be now ready to pick up steam if it goes to a brokered convention. Biden is who everybody thought was going to be the traditional

Democratic candidate, and now he's looking very shaky. And Bernie, who is a Democratic socialist, he's not a traditional Democrat. And I feel like that would be the thing that people would be talking about is like, what's driving this? It seems like people are disillusioned with, you know, our two party system. Clearly, when Trump was not a a republican he was his own authoritarian weird mixture i think a lot of that stuff has been happening for a while i think what strikes me is just as new is just that we've we've got a president who was impeached who was making a state

of the union address we got a president who was impeached and people are are running uh you know against him and how that's not the biggest, craziest thing to happen. And accused rapists. Yeah. Right. And then everybody's like, you know, when Mike Pence was like, you know, when seeing Nancy Pelosi rip up the speech, I thought she might as well have been ripping up the Constitution.

Right. It's like, give me the biggest fucking break ever given in the history of the universe. Please, sir. And the other thing that we're missing from all of this right aside from the buddha judge stuff is there was this moment where a lot of people were talking about when um i think it was nina turner from the sanders campaign basically said mike bloomberg's an oligarch yeah that's accurate right and the one of the other puns like oh i think that's really unfair to get messy and calm and oligarch but

okay you can argue the sort of semantics but i think what's really going on there is they don't need to end. Like they don't need class consciousness to enter how these things are covered. You're never going to hear MSNBC talk about like the stock market actually doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, because like most of the stocks are owned by like the top one percent. Right. So, I mean, I don't know why that matters, but you'll never hear that because that's like sort of the Rubicon the media isn't willing to cross quite yet.

Because when you do, then you really have to say like, rather than being like, wow, Bernie has a lot of support from college students or trying to reduce it, or even like Elizabeth Warren's policies have a lot of support from these things. There's never a real examination

as to why people are motivated to maybe say, yeah, we have a completely of support from these things. There's never a real examination as to why people are motivated to maybe say, yeah, we have a completely fucked taxation system and here are examples that are probably motivating people. It's just done so broad enough where it's like, look, if you're not interested, you hear the soundbite and you're like, yeah, maybe that makes sense. But it's never gonna get specific enough where someone's gonna be like, hold on,

maybe this is something I need to know about. Maybe I need to understand what the power dynamics are and how that affects me. I feel like I'm hearing more in mainstream about corporate tax evasion. I feel like that's becoming more mainstream. You know, you hear about like Amazon not paying any taxes and all these big companies, but I don't know if it's explained why that matters to people. But they'll never, but I guess the thing of like, it won't be put in the sense of like, there are stakes for people who are the workers. Exactly.

And then there are stakes for the people who are the owners of the business and how that relationship works on each other because that I think begins to really reveal how the power dynamic is laid out in this country. But yeah, it's just that there's a lot of, I think, a lot of panic going on, especially with the media, too, because they thought for most people, you really thought like Joe Biden was it. Right. And we were here saying like. Bro, nobody here wants Joe Biden. Especially in Iowa. So now they're like between. OK, so Biden is clearly. So there's that story.

Biden underperformed. And we know how to cover that. So there's that story, Biden underperformed, and we know how to cover that. Buttigieg, they're now leaning into him possibly being the leading moderate candidate. But he doesn't really have a very clear path. New Hampshire, he's in third. Nevada, he's in fifth behind Tom Steyer. In South Carolina, he's in sixth behind. And it doesn't matter how many black people he puts in the front row of his rallies.

Right. We're not convinced. Right. So it's just not clear how that... It seems like the way they're covering it is his entire strategy was getting a media bump from Iowa, which is what Iowa is important because of. And they're like, well, he succeeded. He is getting a bump right now because we just said this sentence.

Brian Williams called him the presumptive winner of the Iowa caucuses. And I think a producer was screaming in his earpiece because later on he was like, just to clarify, when I was in that helicopter in Iraq, I mean, the decision desk has not said either way, made a decision on who was won. Yeah. It just, like with the Sanders thing, it seems like, like you said, there's a Rubicon that they're unable to, like, get past because he's been, like, surging for a while,

and the only version of that story that they're able to process is what will Democrats do to stop him? Once he starts having success, it's like, well, what can they do to stop him? How are people panicking? But they're not covering the actual... How do his ideas compare to trump's ideas in terms of affecting most people right like what are people reacting understand what's going

on so they can make a decision yeah so they'll cover like the horse race perspective how did democrats stop him or like the soundbite what you know is it fair to call mike bloomberg and all well that just shows you the stakes though too right as right? As a pundit, you're like, ooh, I'm loving this, how she ripped up that speech or whatever. Rather than being like, what is the experience like of somebody who is a single parent, who has three jobs, who maybe has a medical condition? And what is that reality of that person? Is that the kind of life that we want people to live here? Or can we look at what are the forces at play that are putting this person in

this position and examine that so we can do something better as a country right on the prize damn fucking ether trump would that run it's like dude that's not what those aren't the fucking stakes how does that convince somebody who's not already a supporter like i think people like you see this in podcasts people like to hear like you tell the story of how something works like from the like you mentioned the corporate evasion of taxation like that would be like people would tune in to hear okay here's how much amazon would pay and here's what it could have paid for yeah in like for america here's the public could have paid for in like for America. Here's the public aid that would have not been used if they had been paying a living wage. But there's just like this giant blind spot that like the mainstream media just seems to be unwilling to.

It's because it's the advertising too. They're all fucking interwoven. Yeah. all fucking interwoven. Yeah. So it's like, well, fuck, if I start talking really, if I really examine how Jeff Bezos is doing all this tax evasion with Amazon or all the breaks that he gets and relate that to people in a way that they start realizing, hold the fuck up.

This guy saved all that money and we still aren't fixing the water in Flint? Like what, you know, if they did that every time, always compare it. This money would have paid for like public schools in this place could have got you rural wi-fi here could have helped for hospitals in these rural areas like if you do that then people start actually functionally understanding how how bad these things are but you can't do that because then you don't get your aws advertising you know buying a huge chunk of uh ad blocks on your shows and on your network. So it's tough. Yeah. I feel like the media treats it like,

oh, well, nobody's going to watch stories about single parents because it feels too much like eat your vegetables, kids. But there are ways to tell stories that people are dying to hear that the media just isn't. That's what I'm struggling with is, are they consciously making that decision? Is it just this sort of TV-based idea that the viewer is stupid? I think it's a line of least resistance a lot of times. You look at all the newsroom cuts that have happened also, it's a lot easier

to receive a press release about a poll and then talk about the poll and analyze the poll than to go out there and do journalism. There are exceptions, obviously. I mean, there was that great story, was it the New York Times that had the thing about the U.S. bank employee that tried to help someone

who couldn't get money for gas and then they got fired? Right, for giving someone $20. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think there are those kinds of stories out there. But there's too much of interviewing white men in diners. I also think, though, too, at a certain level, the people who are the decision makers. And I love diners and being interviewed. Don't get me wrong.

The people who are the decision makers and also the people who are reporting, at a certain point, and also the people who like are reporting at a certain point, they exit a certain class and are surrounded by people whose problems are not, are, are not the same as someone who is truly struggling to make ends meet. So I think as you, the more time you spend away from people like that, the less real that becomes. And then you start to you, a problem is like, wow, like, comes and then you start to you a problem is like wow like like there's a waiting list for a tesla s huh or whatever it is like you start there's just a a lack of connection i think to understand what the experience is like from top to bottom and that's what happened i think that's that that's always the risk of any kind of bubble you operate everyone has some sort of you know biases that they're operating under.

But I think that's also another contributing factor to the lack of diversity in reporting we see, too, of the kinds of stories we're telling. And I'm seeing a lot more racial diversity. They'll have a panel of pundits on CNN, and you'll see across that spectrum. But it's punditry. It's not a diversity of people who are stakeholders. Right. And that's something that I diversity of people who are stakeholders. Right. And that's something that I'd like to see more of. Right.

People representing the poor or the homeless or union members, union leaders, that kind of thing. Having a person who grew up poor write about what it was like to grow up poor at Cracked was incredibly popular. And people were like, oh my God, I've never seen this before. It was just, or other people like I feel seen. Right.

Yeah, absolutely. And it's just like, that is, and when you look at TV or movies like that, it's shockingly absent from like Roseanne was this groundbreaking show because it showed a family that wasn't like where money- Didn't live in an impossible home. Right, money actually exists.

I feel like a lot of the time- They had to make choices about what to spend money on, what bill to pay. A lot of the time people, the people making our culture assume that we want to live in a world where- It's fantasy. Yeah, it's fantasy and money doesn't have to exist.

And some people do. Yeah. I think that's fine for some. It shouldn't be all. No, yeah. You shouldn't completely erase these dimensions of human experience, especially within this country when you want to go and pump your own dick up about being number one and everything.

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Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. country into a mafia state and she paid the ultimate price listen to crooks everywhere it you guys let's talk this i mean it's just a stat that came out of bloomberg they're saying they did 20 billion dollars in ad revenue in 2019 youtube did 15.1 billion in ad sales so i uh facebook though it does doesn't comment because they're saying they always present their revenue like as a total of like facebook whatsapp messenger instagram whatever but they say from the people they spoke with who were actually familiar with like the ad revenue within instagram they're like yeah it's like it's 20 it's

about 20 i mean i'm not the ideal uh instagram demographic. They're like, yeah, it's like, it's 20. It's about 20. I mean, I'm not the ideal Instagram demographic, but I'm trying to think if there's any thing that I've ever clicked on that's led to a purchase from Instagram. I mean, things have, I've become more aware of things and maybe that's, maybe that's part of it, but I don't know if I have any of you ever made a purchase.

I almost did. I almost did. I do not do much on Instagram, but I have heard people who are very internet savvy consumers be like, I want an Instagram feed that's all advertising because their advertising gets me so much. Really? Whereas I don't know a single person who has had a positive experience with a YouTube ad. Like nobody's like- Oh, with YouTube?

Yeah. YouTube, not at all. Right. Nobody. Yeah. They just haven't. It's everyone has ad block. Well, what's interesting is like, I don't know, like, I don't know if there's a more hated experience than having to sit through a YouTube ad versus one you can just scroll past or tap past. Yeah. The thing is like, so there's, you

know, it makes sense because what, to your point, one in three people are just a little over a third of Instagram users say they've bought something because of ads. Right. And you got a billion plus people using that shit. I'm going to go on my feed now and see if there's anything that even remotely tempts me. It's showing me a lot of tech stuff. To buy anything. I looked for like a phone case once and now it's like, what about this phone case?

Right. You want this one? This one's rugged. Right. And I mean, that's like the direct purchase stuff, but then there's the branded stuff. And I mean, companies and Facebook, like Facebook is incredibly detailed, like next level. Right. Like Google.

Although it's always fun when they're way off. Right. Right. I don't need Spanx yet. Thanks though, guys. Google basically was a slightly more high-tech version of classifieds. And Facebook is like a whole other level of just the amount that they know about customers. It's just scraping the inside of your skull. And they're like, all right, feeding it back to you.

Yeah. They know stuff that you want before you want it um and it's scary but it doesn't surprise me at all that you know instagram is more profitable i'm seeing an ad for a watch and i don't wear watches i'm seeing an ad for trader joe's i went to trader joe's last night got him and uh i mean i already know it exists and then for some shows that i'm never gonna see so So, yeah, there you go. There you go. But again, I'm not the demo, I guess.

Mine's for an Incubus concert and 311. Oh, fuck, yeah, this is for me. I got you. Got him. I got him down. Holy shit. Incubus, 311, and Bad Flower? What, bruh?

Yeah, most of mine are for things. And Miles just left the room. Most of mine are for things that I've already done. Like, there's a Hyatt Hotel. I just stayed in a Hyatt Hotel. So again, I guess it reminds me that I know this product exists. Right. I don't get it. Reinforcement advertising. There you go.

And they got me to mention it on a podcast, so the system works. There you go. Boom. Let's talk about alone time. This is something that makes total sense to me, but science is studying I guess they're calling it sensory processing sensitivity yeah it's like a personality trait that a lot of people have so you know people take detoxes from social media or tv or even like just be like yo i need like a day

literally by myself right and just to recharge my shit um and like when they were talking interviewing a lot of people to try and sort of find sort of this commonality between it, this sort of thing of sensory processing sensitivity factored into it and just saying like, you're sort of like a sensitive person, like physical, emotional thoughts, anything. And that high sensitivity naturally can overwhelm somebody and then puts you into like, can trigger all kinds of thoughts or you get into like an anxiety, whatever it is, depending on who you are, that some people have to choose to remove themselves. And the whole

thing that they found is like when people, when they found people who sort of found, like, were able to see this within themselves and say, I actually need to step away, that brought a lot of benefits to them. But they weren't saying being alone is beneficial because they also looked at people who have a lot of alone time because of maybe the nature of their work or where they live and things like that. And that sort of loneliness or being alone that's determined by external factors actually increased your stress and increased a lot of those things. Well, yeah, because it's not being like, you know, people who are just, I'm sure it works out for some people, but I mean, if it's just being determined by outside factors, like I'm sure 80% of the people just, you know, that's not what they would have chosen for themselves.

Yeah. But it's interesting how many people don't have that muscle of self-care to be able to say, you know what, I need to, you know, I need to stay in or I need to go or whatnot. I would imagine a lot of people who don't have that kind of consciousness get overstimulated. Oh, yeah, because it took me a while to just go down like just whatever it was, reading news or when I was on Facebook, just being like, what the – it would just put me in this elevated state. And I'd be like, whoa, my energy is being used in the worst possible way. And I was like, the only way I can do that is to take out this stimulus, which is the

whatever it is at the time, social media, news, face, whatever it is. Yeah, I find a lot of adult life is tolerating discomfort. Right. Like just doing shit you don't want to do and, you know, and for a greater good. Like I love scuba diving, but I hate everything about scuba diving. Like I don't like being in a tightly confined suit. I don't like having to wear heavy equipment. I don't like relying on the machine for my breathing.

I don't like salt water. I don't like being on a big, rocking, noisy motorboat with Russians and Speedos who are smoking. Yet, when it all comes together and I'm under the water, it's one of my favorite things in the world to go and see the fishies. So in the moments before you get in the water,

it's like, oh, fuck this. You did it again, Jake. You should have known. No, no, it's a process of just breathing through it and just realizing I can tolerate this and then once I get in the water,

I'll be fine. Or being aware, right? I think most people might do that and just completely identify with those feelings of anxiety and then be like, oh, this is actually the worst thing ever. And I'm the versus being like, okay, I get it. I'm in a situation that I don't typically like, but I can figure out a way to navigate. And being able to take care of myself to say to the instructor, you know what, I need a time to, I need a minute to breathe here before I'm going

to do this. And, you know, and I need you to hold these, hold my mask here so I can put it here. And then when I get in the water to not go down, it'll calm down. Yeah, exactly. And it's gotten better. And I try to take lessons from that in my life, but not always. Yeah. Let's talk about one of the more strangely intriguing trailers that we've seen this year. Yeah.

Spiral from the Book of Saul. What a weird title. Very, very odd title. We talked about Chris Rock being the executive producer. And I think working on a script for, to reboot the Saw franchise. And at first we were like,

I guess that could be good. Right. I wasn't sure. It was hard to know just based on, it was a very interesting combination of words. Yes. Saw, Chris Rock and all that.

But this trailer, it actually looked good or something. Yeah. I like it, but TBDs over Chris Rock's dramatic performance. I mean, they have two shots of him discovering something profound or profoundly disturbing where his face is frozen in the exact same position the entire time like i i don't think i i'm intrigued by this because we're seeing people who have who are like comedic geniuses who have a penchant for you know really uh good horror um but i i don't know the trailer did look intriguing it also looked like it might

be just a a face blend of a saw movie and the movie seven yeah i think the just you're hearing sam jackson to go so you want to play some motherfucking games there it is i was in they got it in yeah i think it's one of, well, I guess the thing that surprised me is my first, usually you can see a trailer and you go,

oh, no. Yeah, yeah. Gay, oh boy. I'm a sucker for trailers, by the way. I will always be into a movie after seeing a trailer. You'll always give it

the benefit of the doubt? Oh, yeah. Well, I just love trailers. Right, right. But we've watched trailers and you go, that was a fucking joke. Yeah. You're always saying, the benefit of the doubt? Oh, yeah. Well, I just love trailers. Right, right. But we've watched trailers, and you go, that was a fucking joke. Yeah. You're always saying, but if the ones, if it speaks to you in the right way, you're like, all in. Yeah.

Like, I will not. I try my very best to not miss the trailers when I go to the movies, because that's usually my favorite part of any movie. I've been hurt too often. Yeah. I've been deceived too often. Yeah. Where, dang it, they, well, obviously, this is what they should do. usually my favorite part. I've been hurt too much too often. Like I've been deceived too often. Yeah. Where,

where dang it. They, well, obviously this is what they should do, but dang it. They just put the best parts in. Right. Which means there's only three minutes of good parts. Or you see like in the first act of the film,

you're like, wait, that was all the good shit from that trailer. Just, I remember that movie, uh, dead presidents and, uh,

the trailer for that was so amazing because it was a bank robbery and they were in white face and had all these cool moves and then I watched the movie and it's about two hours of like a Vietnam and at the very end there's a very quick bank robbery sequence and it was from Menace to Society which was like my favorite movie

at the time I was like fuck man this is gonna be so good and I forget what song they had in the trailer but it was like, fuck man, this is going to be so good. Uh, and I forget what song they had, uh, in the trailer, but it, it was like everything about it. It was so good.

It was a great short film that had almost nothing to do with the actual movie. Yeah. The first movie I saw in theaters was, uh, Rocky four. And that movie is like fully imprinted on my brain as like what movies should be. Yeah. But I also remember the trailer I saw at the trailer.

I saw at that movie for poltergeist too, was like the first trailer that I saw that I was like, yo, this is going to be fucking great. Even with like the advent of the internet, putting trailers out right away. It's still magical for you to see the trailer. Yeah.

I try not to watch them too much on the internet. Wow. I didn't realize. Wow. The sanctity of the in theater trailer. Yeah, man, I try not to watch them too much on the internet. Wow. I didn't realize. Wow, the sanctity of the in-theater trailer. Yeah, man. I'm into it. I'm always wary when they do a teaser that has nothing to do with the movie. They don't actually show footage from the movie.

It's just someone standing on a set. Like the Aretha Franklin Respect one, I guess, because it's Jennifer Hudson, so you're supposed to be impressed that she's singing Respect. And she sings great, but I don't see any Aretha Franklin. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's like, man, this is a good cover song. Yeah. Wait, so you're talking about the trailer has her being like,

hi, I'm Jennifer Hudson, and I will be... I don't see as many as those anymore. Right. They used to do this a lot for comedy, where... I'm trying to remember. There was one that was particularly awful where someone was saying, like, so come see my... Oh, I think it might have been Robin Williams for toys. There was a teaser trailer where it was just him in full coked out Robin Williams mode. Right.

And it had nothing to do with the movie. Right. And probably for good reason because I'm a huge Barry Levinson fan and that is a terrible movie. I love that movie. Even though it looks great. I mean it looks – yeah, it's terrible. It's like a high concept like dark weird thing. But they're like, well, the thing we're actually going to be able to sell is Robin Williams.

And the things that look like toys. And toys. And the concept of toys. And then I come out of the theater telling my dad, I don't want my food to touch. I'm a military man. And I fucked that. My parents remember that shit. After that, you didn't want your food to touch.

I'm a military man. I'm a military man. I like a military plate. I'm like, well, the only portrayal of an African-American on screen was spoke directly to me in that scene. So what the fuck do you expect? I'm not going to go out here as a new Joan Cusack fan. Although she's great in that. All right. And finally, candystore.com, which is a blog, has released a list of America's favorite Valentine's candy.

Is it by state? Yeah, by state. One thing I just want to say, right? They start off saying the projected spend for Valentine's Day. I don't know if this is the year, but this is the wording. As Valentine's Day indulgences go, candy is a relatively inexpensive one. It's also become a tradition and is a nice and easy gesture to make. That could be why people are expected to spend over $2.4 billion this year, up $600 million from last year.

I'm not spending that much. What the fuck? Are people? I mean, I know if Valentine's Day candy to be a thing, you panic buy it at CVX just to give to somebody. How are there more than two candies on this list? It's Day candy to be a thing, you panic buy it at CVX just to give to somebody. It starts a massive argument and they throw it away. How are there more than two candies on this list? It's just candy hearts and chocolate. There's more?

Apparently, M&M's is on the come up. It's moving up very close. In California, third place goes to chocolate roses. Chocolate roses is not a thing that I have ever given or really even considered giving. Like chocolate dipped roses? They're shaped, yeah. They're like, these taste kind of weird. No, no, this is what they look like.

Eat the bulb. They're like plastic stems with chocolate candy in the shape of a rosebud and then wrapped in like cellophane. Conversation Hearts. You know, for the environment. Is the other one. That makes sense. That's a staple. Yeah, that would be conversation hearts is funny i've never thought of them being in conversations because hello i love you right be mine what a vapid conversation i will um yeah

and then number one heart-shaped box of chocolates which seems to be the one for everyone uh jack where's the state you live let's go look at what's popular in Ohio, shall we? In Ohio, third place Conversation Hearts. Second place Cupid Corn. Oh, I'm gonna guess. It's candy corn but it's pink and red instead of yellow and orange. There he is. Yeah, you got

him. Got him. Exactly. And then Heart Shaped Box. Alright, no, no. Then, yeah, Heart Shaped Box of chocolates. Is there one state where there's just. Then, yeah, heart-shaped box of chocolates. Is there one state where there's just something really, like it's not even a can? It's like grain alcohol? It's like one bean.

Chocolate hearts is as kind of out there as it gets. That's Maine's number one, chocolate hearts. That is so Maine. Right. So Maine. Hershey's Kisses are also big. Pennsylvania makes sense. M&M's. You think, are M&M's also? No, that's Mars. Right. So Maine. Hershey's Kisses are also big. Pennsylvania makes sense. M&M's. You think, are M&M's also? No, that's Mars. Yeah. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh. What's going on in Pennsylvania? Yeah. Pennsylvania's got M&M's. So does Texas. Oh, no. But are they Valentine's M&M's? Texas's Kisses. Texas's Kisses. Yeah, Cupid Corn is the one thing I see on here that I'm, like, surprised is consistently coming up. Well, this on here that I'm like surprised is consistently

coming up because I well this is where maybe I'm an outlier but I have always said I cannot say candy corn Alaska's number three is something I've never heard of cinnamon bears oh the fuck are those made with real bear yeah what is a cinnamon bear ooh

Florida we've got a we've got a change last year's winner conversation hearts What is a cinnamon bear? Ooh, Florida. We've got to change. Last year's winner, Conversation Hearts, but this year Heart-Shaped Box of Chocolates has overtaken. Man, we are not original. I mean, I guess this is typically a holiday where men are buying gifts for... Yeah, so it's everyone's chocolate and roses. Right.

Number one, whatever's on sale at cvs alabama coming with the uh surprise number one candy necklaces oh all right what is that but that's for like kids right yo can you imagine those shit you're like that that shit will get you in trouble if you're an adult you're like i got you this candy necklace like the fuck they probably put it in like one of those fancy boxes in a pretty way. Yeah, like a felt-covered box. Yeah.

Cinnamon bears are just basically gummy bears that are just chock full of that cinnamon spice. Arkansas number three is Ghirardelli gift box. Wow. Fancy, Arkansas.

Damn, look at you, Arkansas. Okay, Arkansas. Candy necklaces, big in West Virginia, West Fulging. Ghirardelli gift boxes are also third place in Iowa and Kansas also. Huh. So people like that. And second place in Maine. I guess that's like if you're classy, you know, like, I think Ghirardelli, that's that

fancy shit. That's Italian. Yeah. From San Francisco. Utah, it's just whole milk. One, two, and three.

Hell yeah. Interesting. I'm going to take it down a percentage just to get frisky. I think the most creative Valentine's Day gift I ever bought for Her Majesty was a hanging plant. Okay.

I crushed it that year. Yeah. Because everyone was like, before that, I was like, flowers, which were appreciated, but I was like, nah, I was like, flowers, which were appreciated. But I was like,

no, I was like, let our love grow like this hanging plant. Still have it to this day. Chocolate bears? Isn't that a thing? No. Did I just make that up? Chocolate-covered gummy bears? No, that's that website you're going. Oh, right. No.

Damn. Nailed me. I've been zinged, and I love it, to quote Apu. Well, Jay, Keith, it's been a pleasure. Always a pleasure. Having you. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you? Well, the big thing is the podcast Go Fact Yourself. You can get that at Go Fact Your Pod or wherever you get podcasts.

We have live tapings coming up in Los Angeles on February 23rd. Those are free tickets at the Angel City Brewery. You can go to gofactorpod.com. We've got coming up Anne Magnuson, Hal Lublin, Freddie Wong, and Aaron Foley. And we've got new episodes that drop every first and third Friday. And like I said, gofactorpod.com, at gofactorpod. And on Twitter, And like I said, GoFactorPod.com, at GoFactorPod. And on Twitter, I'm at J underscore Keith. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? I enjoy this.

I'm a big musical theater fan, and there's a musical theater composer named Jason Robert Brown, who I follow and interact with once in a while. And he recently posted his retweet was, Every time I lose faith in humanity, Florida brings me back to life. And the headline is, Florida troopers find narcotics in bag labeled bag full of drugs. So just the confluence of musical theater composers,

Florida, stupidity, and news. It all comes together there for me. Miles. Yes. Where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me, follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. And also check out my other podcast,

420 Day Fiance. If you like the show 90 Day Fiance, you like me, you're going to like this. Tweet I like is from Dave Schilling at Dave underscore Schilling. Everyone's been using the Nancy Pelosi rip meme for all kinds of things, and I just liked his when he just put me when my

credit card bill arrives every month. Just tear it up, bro. What are they going to do? Except ruin your credit. That's right. What are some tweets I've been enjoying? I enjoyed a tweet by Soren Bowie.

Soren Bowie at Sorin LTD underscore LTD a little thing about me I once went to an Arby's I enjoyed so much I asked for a compliment card and ran out of room saying how much I enjoyed the atmosphere

that is a little bit about Sorin that's a lot about Sorin says a lot you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our

episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on. Might as well say I can beat that. Oh, my God. You know everybody's just loving Nancy. Just a-rippin' and a-tearin'. A-rippin' and a-tearin'. And that reminded me of the great rappers from the great white north in Canada, Shark Tank,

with their iconic track, Out for a Rip. Oh, okay. In honor of her rippage, those rips, those rip dabs. Uh-huh. Going out on Out for a Rip. Out for a Rip Oh okay And in honor of her Rippage Those rips Those rip dabs Uh huh Going out on Out for a rip Out for a rip Oh yeah

Is that a real Is that a joke Going out for a rip Are you buddy Oh yeah We're from the Great white north That's how like

The first line is And they're talking about You know Just fucking We'll jump in Buddy jumped in a lake Oh Yeah

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Favorite shows That's gonna do it for this morning We will be back later on today To tell you what is trending this afternoon And then tomorrow with another podcast We'll talk to you then Bye tomorrow with another podcast. We'll talk to you then. Bye. I'm from the great white north, right? Like up above the states? Yeah.

The big landmass that the rest of the world hates? Fuck yeah. We're like above that. Fucking north, I guess. The big patch of trees where everybody's bored to death. We're just chilling up here, sipping syrup, playing hockey. Before we learn to walk, we can cross-check properly. Just rocking plaid jackets, chainsaws,

we operate them right. Fucking A-rate we do, bud. We cut our weight in firewood. Every 20 minutes or so, smoke break. And if the Leafs make the playoffs, I'll fuckin' jump in the lake. Fuckin' buddy comes over to my place the other night, and he's like You wanna go for a rip? And I was like

Fuckin' A-rate. So we hop in the truck and hit the mud, and I was like, oh, fuck yeah, bud. Just go for a oh, fuck yeah, bud. Just don't forever, you butt. Just don't forever. Just don't forever, you butt. Just don't forever.

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