The Daily Zeitgeist - RIP The U.S. Constitution, New Accusation in Hollywood: Tom Hanks is Nice 11.13.17

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In episode 27, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Neel Nanda to discuss why men jerk off in front of women, Roy Moore, GOP's tax plan, a white nationalist march in Poland, & producer Anna joins in to discuss nice allegations about celebs, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Trust us, it's out of this world. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 6, Episode 1 of the Daily Zeitgeist for November 13th, 2017. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Obi-Wan Play No D, and I'm joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, happy Monday, everybody. Shout-outs to Chris Flick, who's listening with his infant baby. So I hope this is making him smarter. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious stand-up comedian, Neil Nanda. That is correct.

Neil Nanda, the correct traditional way to pronounce my name. Duh. Nailed it. That's how they do it in India. Right. Yeah. You go to New Delhi, Neil Nanda. Neil, it's great to have you here.

Can you tell our listeners something you've searched in the not-too-distant past that is revealing about who you are as a human being? Ooh, okay. A weird one I searched was Stephen Hawking's sexual assault allegations. I thought it was true. I read an article, and it was apparently— Wait, where did you read an article? I mean, it was one of those satire websites.

Oh, okay. I mean, it was one of those, like, satire websites. Okay. But I believe, but the story was like, it's one of those things where I didn't want to make fun of Stephen Hawking, you know, because it was like, the story was like, and then his rubber from his wheel rubbed up again. I was like, is that true? Or are these jokes? It was the chair that was committing the assault. Yeah.

Because he has limited, very limited mobility. Right. He has very limited mobility and he had apparently type everything to this girl so it was and there was a the article was like oh he's so respected in the community and i was like i don't know i mean i guess if you're a student of his or right something and i mean i mean he's stephen hawking and i mean stephen hawking is kind of a freak like he is very known for going to to strip clubs and there's a picture of him at a sex like club or sex retreat or something with like two women in bathing suits.

Wait, Stephen Hawking goes to the strip club? Yes. How does that work? How do lap dances work when you don't have feeling in your legs? Does he just shoot up that dollar shooting gun to his chair and just automates throwing the singles out? I'm not sure exactly. I haven't been to the strip club with Stephen Hawking.

What? But yeah, that is... Allegedly, he has a healthy sexual appetite. Interesting. Yeah. But not a predator, though. But that is... So that was a fake.

So you read into a satire article and then just kind of – I believed it. Had the fear though like maybe there is a shred of truth to this. That's what's so scary about our world right now is I don't know what's true anymore. Yeah, right. This is the best time to be a conspiracy theorist. Oh, yeah. Because I have no idea.

I'll believe you. Right. Like 10 years ago if you were like obama's a muslim and you know i'd be like this guy's crazy but now if you're like donald trump scrooge mcduck i'd be like oh is that like hold on hold on let me go on snopes yeah right i'm gonna get that guy a beer i don't know he does have like the bottom half of like a like a ducktales character right like very bottom heavy i could see him diving into gold coins for sure yeah i was have you i remember the first time i because of the ducktales intro of like the idea of swimming through coins like my grandparents

used to have a like a gigantic bucket of pennies and change and i was like yo here's my chance and i remember just putting my arm in and just stubbing all my fingers yeah and that like ruined the idea of swimming through coins very quickly for me yeah but you did it with pennies you can't do with pennies that's not. What am I supposed to do? Straight up gold coins? Straight gold doubloons. You didn't know? Damn.

Hey, Neil, what's something you believe to be overrated? Overrated. Okay, the new Taylor Swift album. It's number one worldwide right now, and it is some straight garbage. That is a, that is a, that is true. That is a, that is a, that is true. That is true. I, uh,

yeah, we were talking about it on Friday and just based off the little clips I listened to, yeah, you know, little, little stealing from artists here and there. A lot of that,

my problem with it, uh, one, it should be illegal for Taylor Swift to rap. You shouldn't, no one should, that shouldn't be legal. Like that,

she should be arrested. She should be in jail. that, that bothered me. She's rapping on not just that one track, but a few other tracks. There's like a little bit of rhyming. I don't even want to call it, I don't even want to call it rapping. Talk rhyming. Talk rhyming.

And then there's, so I don't know if you guys remember this. The album's called Reputation. And do you guys remember what taylor swift did that ruined her reputation aside from just being like generally whack no well there's a Kanye West thing right yes there's a Kanye West thing so the whole album is about the Kanye West thing like and you don't even remember that i don't even it doesn't matter i wanted to hear an album about boys i just wanted to hear and breakups breakups and hookups and you know new boys and love life it's and so i was hoping for that but the whole album is about like guys stop

being mad at me no one's mad at you no one's upset no you barely remember the kanye west and i'm like not even checking for that that's not even on my radar it's not even on it's not on anyone's radar and she's playing up to this like uh the the whole thing it's so narcissistic of like everyone remembers that and that's all that right she is now and this album is about her trying to bring back her reputation or now she oh sorry the old taylor is dead right according to her and uh she has a new rep she's a bad girl right which is so weird to me i i'm like visually i i gag every time she like thrusts now and right it's just weird super contrived bad girl it's like the i've been saying it's like the least convincing like

attempt to be bad in pop music since michael jackson was released bad literally like now i'm a tough guy it was like no you're not i got chains on my leather jacket who's bad no dude you just did three spins you're not bad yeah just because you my leather jacket. Who's bad? Who's bad? No, dude, you just did three spins. You're not bad. Yeah, just because you hung out with a dude in roller skates and a can of spray paint in the subway. Yeah, yeah. That'd make you bad. Taylor.

Yeah, and there's all sorts of reasons that it's like her Kanye beef is sort of. And they don't care. Kanye does not give a shit. Right. Who knows? Yeah, maybe he's in the lab right now and he's ready for a rebuttal. beef is sort of and they don't care kanye has does not give a shit right who knows yeah who maybe he's where he's in the lab right now and he's ready for a rebuttal gonna drop super devastating like that's gonna be the new it's like biggie and tupac taylor kanye b right that that it kind of is where the world is headed it kind of is so yeah let's brace ourselves for that

what's something you think is underrated uh I put – what did I – underrated? I really like your first one. Ryan Reynolds? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Okay, so I'm going to go ahead and take a step back and say that I think Ryan Reynolds is finally appropriately rated. Because I've been a fan of Ryan's for so long, and when I saw Just Friends when I was a kid, I was like, where's his eight movie deal? Right, right.

This is the funniest, most charismatic. It's just amazing. And I remember being like, this guy is a star. And no one realized it. This guy is a star. You're saying that like as a kid. Yeah. This kid's got something.

This kid's got something. Got an eight picture deal. Yeah, I thought he was, I was expecting so many more comedy films from Ryan Reynolds. Right. And I don't think he got appropriately rated until Deadpool. When Deadpool came out, everyone was like, oh, this guy's a star. I'm like, I've been saying that for years. Who writes his Twitter? Does he write his own Twitter?

I think so. It's pretty solid. Pretty funny. Pretty funny. Pretty funny stuff. He's Canadian too, isn't he? What's up with all these Canadians? Enough, man. I think, man, I'm just saying.

Oh, I just remembered that video. Get your fucking Canadian agenda out of my podcast. Have you seen that video he did? Yeah, he's from Vancouver also. Wow, shout out to British Columbia. That video he did with GQ where he was interviewing himself. It was a video that came out, I think, earlier this year. Oh, it's hilarious.

Is it? Oh, yeah. It's amazing because it's him being his evil twin interviewing himself and just flaming himself. I haven't even seen that. I'm sure it's amazing. Dude, we'll play it later. It's pretty good, especially if you're a Reynolds fan. He doesn't disappoint, honestly.

It's just always quality content. He doesn't disappoint, honestly. Right. It's just always quality content. And then I think, I personally think that because he's so attractive, we're just like, ah, some hot dude. But no, he's very talented and very funny. Do you think it's because he's so handsome people aren't taking him seriously as a comedian and be like, that's a comedian. And now they're like, no, you're the handsome guy. Yes.

Yeah, I think. I think so. I think because I thought Just Friends was phenomenal. I thought he was so funny. Right. And people were just like, like ah it's a hot dude playing a hot day it's like no that guy's actually really funny he's got comedic chops he proved those chops in deadpool comedically and you know as an action star so i i don't know i think he's i think he's correctly rated now yeah but i think for a long time he was underrated i feel very weird about like i have some weird feelings about ryan reynolds because i'm like i don't think his wife is good enough for him which makes me feel like lively i'm like yeah she's not like i agree like because

she like did like uh she had like a fashion line or something that was all about uh what's it called like plantation style like southern style shit and she like wanted to get married on a plantation and shit i was just like yo like she doesn't seem i don't know like reynolds appropriate who do you think is reynolds who who is worthy of ryan alanis morissette wasn't that their first wasn't he married to her at first? What? I don't know about that. Yeah. Ex-fiance? Wow. Ex-fiance, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had no idea.

Yeah. So, I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like, he's, like, the sort of dude who's, like, he seems smart enough to, like, not be married to... Wow, they're cute. They're cute together. They are a cute couple. Or, like, even Scarlett Johansson's, like, pretty, like, I don't know. She seems to, like, have a sense of reality and not be, I don't know.

I'm a ScarJo fan, too. I think you should be with Ryan, Jack. I'm not going to say it, but people have said that. I play basketball. You toss the lob up. Now let me tell you, you should be with Ryan Reynolds. All right. Those were great, and I appreciate you bringing up the Ryan Reynolds thing for me.

I only had to pay you $25. We talked about it. All right. So let's get into format. We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there changing the world, whether you're looking or not. And we talk about the president. We talk about politics, the news. We also talk about movies, supermarket tabloids, whatever you are thinking and talking about.

So first show after the weekend, things that people I know we're talking about. People are talking about UCLA, the UCLA basketball players still being in sort of hotel jail in China. players still being in sort of hotel jail in China. According to CNN, they're still in a hotel in Hangzhou, which is the city where they were allegedly caught shoplifting. And Trump, the president of the United States, had to personally ask Chinese chinese president uh xi jinping to clear up like the issue and like to treat them fairly he all the president all jinping was like willing to do was be like they'll get a fair treatment which could be like some foreboding ass yeah right could be like oh they'll get theirs oh yeah we'll we'll treat them real fairly um but this is just the the baller brand the the ball family uh big baller brand terrible i mean like lavar ball is just the grossest

stage dad mom man momager dadager dadager like guy living vicariously through his kids that i've ever seen and you know what sucks man man? I almost want this. I want LiAngelo Ball to go to jail because I don't like LeVar Ball. It has nothing to do with LiAngelo Ball. I just have such a bad taste. It's not that I want him to go to jail, but part of me is like, whatever, because of LeVar Ball. Just by association.

Yeah. And it's terrible. It's terrible. That's how deep my distaste for LeVar Ball goes. Yeah. But yeah. What are you going to do? I don't know.

I want them to get out. I want them to get out. I have some questions. First of all, couldn't he afford those sunglasses? Yes. His sneakers are $3 billion. Or his brothers. His brothers. Yeah.

Right. Yeah, so they have money. He can afford those glasses. Second of all, what's the justice system in China like? Because what's a fair trial in China? Well, if convicted, I think they face up to two – between two and ten years in prison. Three to ten, yeah. Three to ten years?

Yeah. That's crazy. I mean, does money work in China? Does that buy – is it like America where you can just – I don't know. The government sort of has all the money. Yeah. Well, we'll see.

I think – Right. They have our money. Right. Yeah. I mean, who knows? If somehow Trump is directly asking the president about these three people, like, maybe LeVar Ball is the most powerful person on earth that we really don't know about.

Right. Where he's like, hey, Trump, like, I don't know. Maybe Trump has a pair of sneakers. I don't know. Right. Yeah. He's heavily invested in Baller Brand. I just feel like Trump is always keeping an eye on the headlines and he's like, he knows

whatever is like trending on Twitter. I don't know. I think he can take credit for it right because if it happens and trump be like i told you right exactly i told guy jay guy jinping jinping to let him go um yeah i it must have just been a like they did it for the thrill they stole shit for the thrill unlike they yeah i mean especially liangelo i just don't fuck with do you just do you feel bad because he's like the forgotten ball brother yeah he's a middle child i'm a middle child i feel him i don't know i don't

i don't fuck with doing crimes in foreign countries yeah that's just stupid it's it's a bad look it's a very bad even the look it's like, who knows what their laws are? Who knows if you're going to get 80 bamboo lashings? I don't know. Yeah, like that dude when I was a kid in Singapore. Wasn't it Singapore? Singapore. The guy that caned?

Didn't he go around keying people's cars or spray painting people's cars? It was like some shit that you would really... Yeah, like, yo, you can't do that. Then you're like, oh, wait, you get caned for this? Yeah, you get 80 canes or whatever. It's insane. But I guess you can't walk. In true, typical middle-child fashion, this is like such a cry for help.

Like, negative attention is still attention. Dad, look at me. I know you rank me as the least, like, baller of all the ballers. Right. But, like, yeah. Where are my shoes? I'm going to steal something. Then my dad will care.

Right. But like, yeah, my shoes, I'm gonna steal something. Then my dad will care. Right. So, hey, speaking of weird things men do just for the thrill and hey, look at me. A question I heard a lot of people asking over the weekend was, hey, why do men jerk off in front of women? Like, why? Why is that a thing that everybody is doing now?

Apparently, I think because of the so the Weinstein allegations came out. That was like one of the many things that he was accused of doing. But then the Louis thing came out at the end of last week. Louis C.K. accused of masturbating in front of many different women without their consent and uh yeah i that that was just a question that i think was on everyone's mind like uh it is an act that most people do shamefully in like the dark room yeah when no one else can see them it's embarrassing it's the most embarrassing thing to ever be caught masturbating i guess you have to really be wired differently because like like i said i would rather be be filmed committing a murder and have that tape get out than someone seeing me masturbate.

Really? I just – I mean, I guess like the – I mean like – Not that I'm a murderer. During the masturbate, you masturbate. You're in it. You're not like – it's like Pringles. Once you pop, you just don't stop.

It just happens. But like post – I get the post shame, the post masturbating shame or whatever. But I mean, I guess it's a, because there's so many powerful men doing it, I guess it's a power thing. Well, clearly it is a power thing. Right. It's like, it's the, yeah. So this is a type of article. There's also like a new genre of article, like with people psychoanalyzing the people who do this.

And I actually, there was a pretty satisfying explanation on Slate, I think it was, where they interviewed a psychologist. And she said that, quote, exhibitionists purposely look to shock their victims because they are angry. They're not looking to make friends or go on a date. Needless to say, no one's like jacking off in front of you to make friends. Hey, this is how we hang out. They say these are acts of revenge against women, which makes sense. Like, if you're, like, you're mad at them, I guess. And so it's, like, the anger is, like, mixed up with sort of.

Or you have, like, a career of just being, generally being very angry at women or blaming women for whatever your own shortcomings are. Right. And then, yeah, they say shortcomings. No, these men are imposing the body part that is most threatening to a female. And in doing so, they're acting out what is called sexualized hostility or eroticized rage that that look of fear, humiliation on women is arousing to them. We see clinically that these men feel wildly inadequate, which that all makes sense approximate sense i guess it's just harder like for for the civilized men out there who just couldn't sort of fathom like obviously clearly like it's it's about power

and terrorizing the victim but yeah like you most people are not wired like that right and the other sort of creepy sexual thing people are talking about over the weekend and apparently we're recording this late morning West Coast time on Monday. And Roy Moore, apparently they're about to Gloria Allred is about to bring out yet another young woman who is going to allege that he sexually assaulted her when she was a child and uh he was in his 30s um but you can't fuck kids yeah that can't seems like a thing you shouldn't have to say out loud yeah right i'm saying it for everyone out there for all the listeners announcement here we go neil go you can't fuck kids boom There we go. Internalize that, y'all. So there's been a bunch of different reactions. over the takeover of Congress are really sort of digging in and arguing that this is all a smear campaign and like, wow, look at the timing.

Isn't that coincidental? Which I mean, I'm I'm sure somebody was looking for opposition research. Like, I'm sure it's not a complete coincidence that his name is in the headlines and this story comes out. That being said, that doesn't change the fact that this is true. You want to do due diligence when you're interviewing someone for a job. You want to look in their background. If the person's like, well, you wouldn't be looking at my background if I wasn't interviewing for this job. So the fact that you found that I used to like hang out around high schools and try and date high school girls when I was in my 30s, that's not fair because you wouldn't have found it otherwise.

That doesn't make sense. No. That's how this works. Did you guys hear the God defense? Oh, yeah. That God defense was fantastic. About Jesus or Mary and Joseph. Mary and Joseph.

Yeah, God impregnated a teenager. She was 13, so it's cool. Right. It's cool. Which the Bible a teenager. She was 13, so it's cool. Right. It's cool. Which the Bible never says that she was 13 either. So she was between 10 and 15, or like they guessed that she was between like 10 and 15? Yeah, but the Bible doesn't say that. Yeah, there's no age.

Right. Yeah. That's just like a thing they went looking for. They're like, I bet she was young. Is that going to come out? Are allegations against God going to come out at some point? Right, pretty soon. You have an article?

I mean, depending on how you look at it, God could be responsible for fucking everything. Yeah, you're right. I hope you lawyer up, God. So, yeah, I don't know. That's going on. He seems like he's refusing to back out. Why is it that, like, so there are multiple allegations against Roy Moore at this point, right? Yeah. It's like the two or however many. I think this could be the fifth one.

The fifth one. The fifth child? This is the fifth kid? They were all teenagers. I think the one that we have detailed allegations with was a 14-year-old when he was 32. And there's, like, some like some pretty you know troubling details like uh essentially a sexual encounter between them so five or so but one kid accuses kevin spacey and he's dropped from netflix and the movie and i mean which i'm not saying he i'm not saying

i'm trying not trying to equate like what he did was better or worse. But what I'm saying is like, why? Why are we still talking about Roy Moore when we have multiple allegations? It's because of this. The power structure is a threat because, again, this is to do with the Senate where like every seat matters. Right. Republicans like on the Mitch McConnell side and then the Steve Bannon Breitbart wing of Republicans that are trying to like bring in this new breed of politician, which is just awful. So, yeah. And essentially, like if they were to have him step aside or anything, the same thing with Donald Trump, if the GOP demanded Donald Trump step down after that Access Hollywood tape came down,

more than likely you're going to lose that election. So it's only to win an election. That is the only reason why these people are willing to stand by it, just purely about winning this election. And that's what makes it. It's really like a test of how strong this whole sort of right wing media apparatus is, because, I mean, yes, like they have sort of created their own reality where, you know, news in The Washington Post and The New York Times is like fake news. Which, by the way, we had Jamie Loftus, three time guest Jamie Loftus on on Friday's show. And she was pointing out she's a journalist in addition to being a stand up.

in addition to being a stand-up. And she was pointing out, like, to get a story published in a place like the Washington Post, you have to have, like, so much sourcing, so much fact-checking. Like, if one thing goes wrong, they will not publish it because they're fucking scared to death. Their legal team is scared to death of publishing inaccurate stuff. I don't—what's real news? What are we supposed to—what? Well, yeah. And that's the problem with this fake news cry. It's like, well, what are we supposed to what well yeah and that's the problem with this fake news cry it's like well what are we supposed to read so uh apparently Hannity is what is like

sort of the line right because didn't Hannity have Roy Moore on and yeah and then he has been pretty vocal about defending him also and that led to him I think like something like five sponsors basically dropped him right and so that keurig thing is you know him saying basically trying to you know tell his viewers that keurig somehow is against real news and like that they're evil because you know roy moore didn't do anything despite them just saying like we don't want to have our advertisements our sponsor a show that's even remotely in the area of someone defending a pedophile, alleged or not. It's just like insane as a concept.

So, yeah, a lot of angry people were like, I'm going to smash my fucking Keurig machine because fuck Keurig. The fair part is that they bought the Keurig machine and then they smashed it. You already paid Keurig. They already made your money. What are you going to do? You fucking pour over again? Right. That's the same thing with like the Colin Kaepernick when they bought all the jerseys to burn them i'm like he

just made 10 million dollars and also like if you want to actually you know hurt keurig don't destroy the machine because that will just create a need for someone else to buy it just you you sold it that's you taking money out of keurig's right that's true if you're like talking about the pure economics of it yeah but again people people are just about like... People are dumb. You know, their caveman brain of like, fuck this thing, I break it. Right. So, yeah, okay, good move. But also, like I said on Twitter, if you're trying to get rid of your Keurig machine, hit me up.

I will come pick that shit up. Yeah, me too. I need a Keurig, actually. Yeah, right. Half price. All right. And that's not even to mention George H.W. Bush, as our super producer Anna Hosnier called him, George Harvey Weinstein Bush, because he's also a sexual predator. Apparently, the ass grabbing was not a one off.

His David Copperfield joke, that's what he was saying to women when he would take pictures with them. He'd say, you know who my favorite magician is? David Copperfield and grab their ass anyways yet another woman has come forward and this one says she was 16 when George H.W. Bush

grabbed her ass he was 79 and that's the 6th woman to accuse him of doing that so apparently that's the sixth woman to accuse him of doing that. So apparently that's a thing. But, yeah, so that's all going on right now. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back after that. I've been thinking about you.

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So I wanted to talk about taxes. We had talked a little bit about the history of trickle-down economics and why that has not really worked the way that people who advocate for it have expected it to work. The idea is that they will give money back to the wealthy and back to big corporations. That money will then eventually make its way down to the workers. But what we've seen instead is that wages are always treated as something that can be squeezed to save the company money. And instead, that money is hoarded and we get worse and worse inequality. Inequality is way up and kind of becoming America's biggest problem. Wait, inequality is up?

Yeah. What? Can you believe it? I think we're near 1920s levels of wealth inequality. But that was a great time. It was a great depression time. The roaring 20s. Yeah. Right before, yeah.

Right before, yeah. That was interesting. I wonder what that means. I just stopped paying attention in the 20s. Why? What happened after the 20s? The 20s were roaring and everything worked out. And then World War II, right?

Right. Make America Great Depression again, maybe? Right. Ooh. Hey. Right. Hey, so there is a tax plan that is currently making its way through, I think, the House and the Senate. They're both kind of formulating their versions of this tax plan. Talk about that cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. Giveaway. Right. And the idea is they will give money back to corporations and back to wealthy people,

and eventually it will make its way to the middle class. Yeah, they're also saying there's some good stuff in there for the middle class. Right. They've also, for some reason, just been candid about the fact that they've been like, we need to get this passed because our donors are going to be really mad at us if they don't. We need to get this passed because our donors are going to be like really mad at us if they don't. Well, yeah. Chris Collins, who's a New York Republican, was basically like told like a reporter that like a donor was just said pass the tax plan or don't ever call me again.

Right. And then Lindsey Graham said basically also admitted that this will help the donor dollars keep to keep them flowing. So they're being very clear that that this is something their donors want. This isn't something that's for the good of the people. Don't ever call me again? It's not like a booty call. It's like, don't ever call me again. Because I don't have cash for you anymore.

Pass that plan. So while this plan is being designed, we're learning a lot about what wealthy companies and wealthy people do with their money because of a massive document leak dump called the Paradise Papers, which is sort of telling the story of how major corporations and wealthy people are holding their money offshore. Holding their money offshore. Basically, you know, there are these islands and small island nations where corporations can go and basically set up their company there and use tax loopholes and these tax lawyers to essentially like hold all their money there and keep it away from being taxed by the U.S. government. And I think they're estimating that we're missing out on 70 billion dollars a year in taxation on corporate profits. We don't need that money. Right. So we talked about this last week, but somebody for the New York Times actually went through and just talked about what different programs cost. And for instance, for $140 million, you could replace the lead water pipes that are currently poisoning people in Flint, Michigan. It would cost-

Oh, right. That's still happening. Yeah, that's still happening. It would cost $22.5 billion to end homelessness by providing just families with rental assistance. And you said that's $22 billion? $22 billion. And we're missing out on $70 billion? $70 billion. Okay, but that's not $70 billion.

What can we get for $70 billion? Yeah, what can we get for $70? Come on. For $75 billion, you could – so Obama asked Congress for $75 billion just for the initial investment in a universal preschool plan, which would allow all three- to four-year-olds to go to preschool. And it would cost $98.4 billion over 10 years. So there would be plenty of money for that, and it would help shrink the education inequality. So $9.8 billion a year. Right. Plus $22 billion to end homelessness. Right.

And we're missing out on something like $70 billion. $70 billion a year. Oh, yeah. Cool. Oh, wow. So, yeah, that's one thing we're learning from these Paradise Papers. And it's just we're learning this as they are putting together this tax plan that gives the people who are, like, hiding their money already, like, all these loopholes and tax breaks and, like, basically giving money back to these people who we're now finding out are when you give them money they hide it from the government so that nobody can get their hands on it and it's crazy too because also that it's becoming more and more clear that our government

is clearly beholden to wealthy donors who are just want to exert their will vis-a-vis these politicians that they help pay for their campaigns and like like, even if when you look, I think one of the versions of the Republican tax plan reportedly contains a like tax break for golf course owners to obtain millions of dollars in relief. So I don't know who that would help. I don't know. I've always felt that. I mean, like it's becoming so grossly transparent.

It's like, wow. Even to the point where like 400 millionaires like sent a letter to congress saying yo do not cut our taxes like we do not need a tax cut in any way because they it's even apparent to this group of millionaires this is not really how we need to be fixing that well with that attitude they're never going to become billionaires yeah that is not billionaire thinking that is millionaire that's true there's no letter from billionaires so yeah until they start talking i guess they don't have whatever sort of just gaping, sucking wound in their soul that millionaires who are like, I have billions and billions of dollars and I'm going to hide it from you. Yeah. A bunch of fucking losers, man. main sort of movers and shakers of policy in the United States are the Koch brothers and also the Mercer family. The Kochs have been Republican donors for many years.

The Mercers were architects behind a lot of the campaigns that got Trump elected. They were sort of instrumental with Cambridge Analytica, right? They were connected to that. Yeah. And keeping bright, but bright, Bart,

bright, bright, but that's actually, I like that. Well, bright, but yeah, they keep them funded or actually now I think they,

Robert Mercer said he's going to distance himself a little bit from that because he didn't realize all his money was going towards racist trash. So that's what he said. Yeah. But anyways, so there's this thing that those two have been after for a long time called Article 5 of the U.S. Constitution, which is sort of a worst case scenario. If you're I don't know, the very small demographic of the United States that is not one of the Koch brothers or part of the Mercer family, if you're not one of them, this would be very bad for you. state legislatures to quote issue a call for a constitutional convention the congress has to convene one and basically from there the delegates can propose and vote on changes to amend the

fucking constitution right so normally if you try and do this through congress you need a two-third super majority in the house and in the senate uh to agree to it and that's you know that's that's so unlikely. So what's the next best thing is to go through state legislatures one by one and have them basically support a constitutional convention. And right now, many of the state legislatures are controlled by Republicans. So there's something like, I think, 28 state legislatures that have called for constitutions, meaning that we're about, depending on how you calculate it, maybe six states away from being able to call for a constitutional convention, which would be wild since there hasn't been one since the late 18th century.

1800s or 18th century? 18th century, 1700s. Wow. That's a long time ago. Back when we had muskets. Yeah, back when we had muskets. Yeah, back when we had muskets. And now we have mad disinformation and bots. So the main reason why these billionaires are pushing for a constitutional convention is for this balanced budget amendment.

They want to basically just say it's like an austerity amendment, which says, yo, the government cannot spend more than it is actually generating in revenue, amendment, which says, yo, the government cannot spend more than it is actually generating in revenue, which is pretty impossible right now because we constantly have to use money we don't have to keep programs funded. And it would be a complete disaster because it would threaten huge programs like social security or Medicare, or just basically like completely hamstring the federal government's ability to like respond to disasters or economic downturns it just basically fiercely limits the power of the federal government which is exactly what these libertarians like the coke brothers want because a the coke industries are like some of the biggest polluters and they're constantly fined and sanctioned over all of their you know

their their violations. So, of course, they would want to enact something or fundamentally change the Constitution so the government can no longer tell them what to do. There are many, many issues. This is not a thing we're telling you because we think it's going to happen tomorrow. It's a thing we're talking about because it gives you some insight into what the ultimate goal of these incredibly powerful influences is. They ultimately want to completely like have control of the government and be able to completely deregulate everything. Just to answer the question I raised a minute ago. So these are some of the Koch brothers' biggest companies. They have, it's a bunch of companies you've probably never heard of that are massive behind the scenes.

So they have Flint Hills Resources, which is a fuel-producing company. So obviously, if you're in the petroleum fossil fuel industry, government programs are going to be your enemy. They own Georgia Pacific, which is a paper company. So they supply like quilted northern tissue, brawny, Dixie cups. Guardian Industries is a glass company. They make all the glass in your automobiles and buildings and fiberglass insulation. So they do like a bunch of stuff behind the scenes. They're the guy behind the guy.

And they're among the wealthiest people in the world and they want nothing more than to become more wealthy which is yeah by any cost we we've talked about them on a past episode uh i think we have i think that was this podcast and not uh the cracked podcast but their upbringing is like complete super villain origin story like their dad had them raised by a nanny who was from nazi germany and was like this really severe woman who was like no fun like broom hilda yeah exactly broom hilda and they um so one of their brothers who is just not like them he's not uh you know he's not super motivated by uh you know dominating other people or super motivated at all he plays games well no he's like a an art collector and

stuff he's like one of the biggest art collectors in the world because of how wealthy they are but um they like approached him at one point and were like we know you're gay and we're gonna tell the whole world unless you give us all of the shares of your company like they tried to like strong arm him by like saying that he was gay and he's just like i'm not gay first of all i'm like uh just because it's like they're they're crazy people they're also homophobic that's amazing yeah evil yeah yeah yeah but oddly enough they do support uh immigration and like amnesty because that's only because of their free market idea of that just means more workers for the companies. Right.

I was going to say, yeah, they need those guys. Yes. It comes nowhere from a humanitarian aspect. But yeah, so this convention is, it's definitely something that when you have the money to do, they are really trying to meddle with our country. Like, it's not just elections and things like that. Like, they are really trying to fundamentally change the Constitution. But there are many things in the many roadblocks, like considering, A, you know, they can't quite get every state on the same page.

That would require a lot of coordination. There's also an issue of, like, what a state calls its convention for. coordination. There's also an issue of like what a state calls it's in a convention for. So like, you know, California and Vermont, they both passed requests to initiate a constitutional convention, but that was around the topic of campaign finance, not like the balanced budget amendment. And so under a lot of interpretations of article five, they're not sure that those requests would actually count towards like the 34 states you need, because they're not all lockstep saying this isn't 34 states saying we all want to vote on the balanced budget amendment all right uh so that that's what's going on with your money in the future uh and yay uh i don't know the fret not fret and i doesn't it's not very likely. But still keep your eye on it.

It's possible. It's possible, but unlikely. But you never know in this day and age. So just please keep your eye on this kind of thing. Right. That's what some of the most powerful people in the country are looking to do. So just keep an eye out. All right.

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Neil just said, why don't you tell people what you... Oh, this is the most depressing podcast I've ever been a part of. Thank you so much. Woo! Bring me a alarm! Cool. So on that note, we have a giant white nationalist march in Poland. Yeah, let's go some world news. Yeah. Poland.

Poland. What's going on over there, man? Oh, well, you know, I think on November 11th was their Independence Day and basically brought out some 60,000 people, including nationalists and fascists, for what they called the Independence March. And, you know, the slogan this year was, We Want God. And a lot of the, apparently from some of the reporting there, the typical chants included, The whole Poland sings with us. Fuck off with the refugees.

Other ones, God, honor, homeland. One nation across the borders and fuck antifa uh and then there are all kinds of banners that are like clean blood europe will be white pray for islamic holocaust so it's uh it's very 60 000 they got 60 000 people the photos are disturbing 60 000 virgins that is unbelievable well what's crazy is it was a lot of, there were men, there were women, there were children. And a lot of people, organizers and participants alike, they were just saying like, this is a celebration of like, we're patriots and we're peaceful. And it's not about anything else. Do they have tiki torches out there? No, they have, well, they have flares.

They have flares. That's a thing they love out there. We're peaceful. We just pray for holocaust um yeah yeah that's the thing that uh one of our writers back at cracked uh shane davis was from australia and he he told us that uh apparently australia has a day that's like australia day or something but it's also like really super ignorant sort of xenophobic people come out. And I guess it's the equivalent of America's Independence Day. Yeah, but Independence Day isn't usually like a reason for people to be like, hey, put your Klan hoods on and like – Right.

Because it's the one day we can. Right. I think – We just get fireworks. Yeah. Everybody gets drunk and watches things explode. And I mean like some of the people who are speaking at this event were saying things like Europe and the world is in decay culturally, politically, economically. Like we Poles have to be the alternative. There will be a national Poland or none.

Like very scary rhetoric out there. But again, I think it's also somewhat of a cautionary tale to other countries out there that have like these burgeoning far-right movements and like you know coming out because in polish media people do have access to like shows with like a very steady diet of like fascist racist xenophobic content that you know people were saying years ago would have been seen as just that but people are you know have slowly become desensitized to this kind of talk and it's creating stuff like this like we have people like with children coming out there being like no this is for our country and you know it's like they're walking that weird line but it's clear that there are many people have a very clear agenda like what this is all for. And I mean, we're certainly not strangers to, you know, things that would have seemed crazy and racist or, you know, unacceptable 10 years ago.

Yeah. Now sort of being normalized. Right. And a lot of these tensions began as, you know, there are more refugees entering Europe and it's only gotten worse ever since. And it's only gotten worse ever since. But again, I think it is very scary to think that you can go from people considering rhetoric like this as being dangerous. But as the repetition of it continues, you just slowly get used to it. Yes, normalized. You're absolutely right. I'm not even shocked. I'm sitting here like 60,000.

That's not that many. Right. And it's scary to think like a lot of these alt-right rallies not many people show up but they're persistent at trying to gain numbers but i think that it's imperative that people call this shit out for what it is because yeah it can it can slowly it's a cancer yeah make its way into the national dialogue where people kind of legitimize that kind of talk when they made the theme theme, we want God, is it like Clubber Lang or like Apollo Creed being like, I want you, like they wanted to fight God? I think it's like we want our Christian God. Oh, got it, got it, got it.

They want their white God. Got it, got it, got it. Yeah, the one God. They don't want Ganesh. Let's go out on happy stories, you guys. So one cool story. There's been this huge drop in crime in the past three decades in America that different people have tried to explain in a lot of different ways.

They've pointed to strict policing, mass incarceration. The crack epidemic kind of began to recede. But there's a bunch of studies that have come out recently that pointed to things like, you know, local community programs and stuff like really like local heroes doing amazing work in these communities where crime dropped the most. So it was cool to see an explanation that was positive rather than just like we started arresting people for breaking windows or whatever. Oh, so that regular people who want to see change in the world actually affected change in their communities. Yeah, it's beautiful.

Wow. Love that. It's crazy when you talk about all this bummer shit and then we hear that. I was almost cynical like, no now we got to check those numbers. 95 percent. Yeah. Are you sure? Right.

Wow. But yeah. So this is like the stuff from Tipping Point. I think they talked about, you know, broken window policing where it's like you try and make part of a town look more presentable and also like add a bunch of police. And by seeing police, people are less likely to commit crimes. And, you know, a lot of those studies have come under scrutiny. And I'm sure it's a combination of a lot of different things. But, you know, certainly, at least partially, these people who are actually like wanting to see a change in their community and did something about it.

And then we wanted to go out on there. There's been a trend on Twitter. That's kind of fun where people asked, can you tell us some stories or allegations about celebrities that are positive right uh and uh so our super producer anna hosnier is here to she's been following that trend and is here to tell us some of those fun stories oh my god thank you for having me oh my god it's so good to see you oh my god please bring the mood up anna please help us yeah so at bakun who's one of those like weird twitter like mainstay guys who's you know it's got like 100 000 followers uh he tweeted out asking people to put out nice allegations and there's there's some really good ones out there um

i'm gonna just uh read a few of my favorites uh My husband sat next to Keanu Reeves at a film festival in San Francisco a couple years ago. When it was over, Keanu stayed and picked up other people's trash. Holy shit. Keanu's a nice guy. Keanu Reeves is a janitor? I thought John Wick was pretty good. Oh, and here's another one about Johnny Cash. My wife's grandfather watched the moon landing with Johnny Cash.

Said he was high as a kite. Pretty neat. Johnny Cash smokes weed. Nice guy. Here's another one about Sinbad. Comedian Sinbad once saw me eating a Nestle Frozen's Crunch Bar at Epcot Center. Walked over to the ice cream vendor and bought one himself and then tipped it to me like you would a top hat, smiled and walked off. It was a great day.

Whoa. I mean, that's not exactly like a great- That's not a good story. He tipped his Crunch Bar at you? He also likes it? Good idea. Some of these are a little bit of a stretch. Yeah.

Yeah. I think these are just people like, I met Sinbad once. That's all it is. Yeah. Then it says another one. I think it was like- Sinbad was looking at me when he bought that Crunch Bar. Right. Although, I don't once. That's all it is. Well, then it says another one. Sinbad was looking at me when he bought that crunch bar. Right.

Although, I don't know. That's kind of cool. But also, Sinbad's a charismatic dude. I could see him doing that. Yeah, more like Singood. Right. Yeah, sorry. I'll leave.

Virtuousgood, not even Sin. There's another one that someone tweeted. Sinbad, more like Virtuousgood. That's pretty good. I like that one. Thank you, y'all. Nick Offerman is also said to be very nice. Yo, he is very nice.

Yeah. I can vouch for that. Yeah, didn't you used to do a bunch of interviews with celebrities? Yeah, at my old job at Condé Nast, we produced videos for all their different magazines. But yeah, he's a very sincere guy, in the most normal way. And it was just great. The kind of dude who shakes everyone's hand on set, like looks them in the eye and he's like,

I'm Nick. Right. Oh yeah, you are. Yeah, you are. Fucking Nick Offerman. I have a, I have a few more.

Yeah. Uh, Michael Keaton, he'll play Frisbee with the extras on the show. There you go. This movie and stuff on set. Like every movie he's ever done. He's like,

here comes Keaton with the Frisbee. I got a couple of feet on mine. So my 21 Savage story. Wait, what? 21 Savage? 21. 21, 21, 21, 21. We were both on the same episode of Jimmy Kimmel, and he had just done like a – they recorded the rap right before I did my comedy.

So he went up and he performed and then i did comedy that same audience which was pretty weird but uh so i thought he watched me do comedy and i had a great set so like when we have a great set you feel like you can talk to anybody right so i walked down the stairs and apparently he hadn't seen me do comedy but i just went up to him like yo what's up 21 and he was like hey and i gave him a hand i reached out my hand to give him a handshake and he gave me his limp handshake and i was like dude i'm from atlanta too and he goes word that was our whole interaction i was like why was he why was he so weird and they're like he didn't want you to cut he just thought you were some random dude right he thought you were just

a fan who was like hey i'm from atlanta That's exactly what he thought. Right. And I want to, one last one. The ultimate nice guy. And there was this prank going around that says, another actress steps forward accusing Tom Hanks, and it's like, dot, dot, dot, of being nice. And it was like wrecking people who were like looking at it. Thank God. But here's a good one. Someone tweeted, I once served tom hanks at my old

job once i was off i was leaving and he was too i asked if it would be okay for us to take a picture together he smiled and said walk with me so i did and we talked he gave me some life advice then we took a few pictures together super nice gave me some life advice wow see he just like knows he like everyone thinks of him as their dad and so so he's just like, here, come on, step into my office. There's always rumors of him like being on runs in New York and just like people spotting him and he just stops and like talks and chats. Hey, when that self-esteem tank gets a little low, nothing like just run around New York. Hey, you think I'm cool, right? Great.

All right. Got to go back to my penthouse later. Well, it's better that than masturbating in front of people. That is very true, yeah. Instead of masturbating in front of people, he just gives them good life advice and moves on with his life. That's almost like masturbating in front of people is walking around New York. Do you know who I am? Yes, we do, and we love you. Oh, my God.

Just came. Awesome. Well, thank you for those wonderful stories Anna bring a little be nice it'll take you far even if you're not

a celebrity be nice just be nice so that's gonna do it for us for the day Neil thank you so much for joining us

thank you for having me it was a blast for us I understand it was a little dark I learned some shit there you go is there where can people follow you and find you It was a blast for us, I understand. It was a little dark for you. I learned some shit. There you go.

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Anna, where can people find or follow you? I am at Anna Hosnier, A-N-N-A-H-O-S-S-N-I-E-H on Twitter. And you can listen to my podcast, Ethnically Ambiguousiguous on the Ferrell Audio Network. Which I was a guest on today. It's out today. Yes. It dropped today. Miles is our guest. It's a great episode. You'll hear about Miles' life. Super interesting. And being ethnically ambiguous. Yes. Alright. Well, that's great to hear.

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