The Daily Zeitgeist - R.I.Pete Hegseth, Kristi Noem Trappin’? 04.22.25

Episode Date: April 22, 2025

In episode 1850, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and author, Zach Zimmerman, to discuss... Pete Hegseth having a rough time, Kristi Noem getting her purse (and WH credentials) stolen, Katy Perry... space conspiracy theories, the trade shade on 'Sinners' and much more! White House looking to replace Pete Hegseth as defense secretary : NPR "BREAKING: In an unbelievable clip, Trump was asked about whether there is dysfunction at the Pentagon and Trump responded “ask the Hooties.” It is pronounced HouTHies. / X Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem’s bag, including $3,000 in cash, is stolen from DC restaurant | CNN Politics Debunking the conspiracy theories claiming Katy Perry’s space trip was a hoax ‘Sinners’ Is a Box Office Success (With a Big Asterisk) - The New York Times "A tale of two movies: Similar deal structures. Similar budgets. One made $45M from 3300 screens, post pandemic, and won the weekend. The other made $41M from 3600 screens pre-pandemic, and placed second. And yet this is the coverage. https://t.co/YUsRvZDT1n" / X LISTEN: Los Chunguitos - Como Yegua Brava WATCH: The Daily Zeitgeist on Youtube! L.A. Wildfire Relief: Displaced Black Families GoFund Me Directory See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Okay, first of all, some some flames on your plane when you land is just a way of celebrating that you've landed in Florida. Those are celebratory flames helps with the disembark. It makes the disembarking process more efficient because people are getting off the plane more quickly because of the black smoke and you get to use the slide. How often do you get to use this? Also, so one of the big problems that we have with the, it's just the air traffic controllers are asleep at the wheel literally because they don't let them sleep.
Starting point is 00:00:36 And so these little near death accident things are like, they jolt them away for like at least a couple days. So I think you're in actually really good shape. All eyes on Orlando right now. Yeah, yeah. They're very keen to not repeat this mistake within the next few days. So these are these are the rumble strips of air traffic, air travel. You know how rumble strips are actually there so that when truckers fall asleep,
Starting point is 00:01:04 they like drift off to the side and then they're like, oh yeah, that's what these little accidents are. These little oopsies are like rumble strips for the air travel industry. An entire plane engine has to catch fire. That is the unfortunate consequence. You said though, sounds like we got a new Pope. We got a new Pope. No, we don't. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Doesn't have to be white smoke. Which one is it? Vote again. Black smoke. Black pope. Maybe it's a black pope. That's a door. Black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black, black rhyming new mnemonic device for like white smoke pope Pope not here black smoke Pope black black he's back Yes, black. He's back. There we go back white good night
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Starting point is 00:05:34 listen to GoBoy on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 385, episode two of Dirty Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Tuesday, April 22nd, 2025. Yep. Yep. Two twos as they say firemen Toronto, man. Toronto. Look, it's school bus driver appreciation day. Shout out your school bus driver. Shout out it's national jelly bean day. Not a fan.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I'm not a fan of jelly beans. Jelly beans. So fuck all that. Also national girl scout leaders day and national earth day, but only national. So I guess only America. This is the only day America will recognize earth. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's national. It's not global earth. national. So I guess only America. This is the only day America will recognize Earth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's national. It's not global. Yeah. So that's right. And we do our own where we show the rest of the world how it's done by completely ignoring it. Exactly. Exactly. Don't don't bum us out, Earth.
Starting point is 00:06:38 You can have like little Earth decorations at the. Sure. At the office. Miles, why do you why? Why do you hate jelly beans? I don't like the fucking texture. Yeah, the type because there there are like the starburst jelly beans flavor wise, pretty good. I you know what? I actually bought those to put in an Easter basket for my nieces
Starting point is 00:07:01 over the weekend, and I was like, damn, I might I might try these. But I didn't end up trying them. I only bought them because they weren't jelly belly. They taste good, but they are, like the primary ingredient is like lacquer. Like it is like, you know, I feel like it's whatever that bug thing is, bug mucus that they like make to like make a thing shiny
Starting point is 00:07:21 and it's probably illegal in European countries. I feel like that's the primary ingredient of Jelly Belly. Yeah. But anyways, I think they're a lot of fun. I'm also a huge Reagan fan and that was his main thing. That would be, if he had an action figure, there would be just a bowl of jelly beans next to him. What a cool guy.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Red flag. My name is Jack O'Brien, AKA Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, look, it's Miles Gray just back from a wonderful day of celebrating the death of Jesus Christ. So call me the- I've got good news, Miles. What?
Starting point is 00:08:04 I don't know if you saw Mark Wahlberg's video, but he has risen. Ah, fuck. Really? Wait, what? Why is that bothering you so much? Because I was going to be the new Jesus. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been fucking waiting for this asshole to step aside. I'm so sorry. Bad news.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Anyway, I'm still the Lord of Lankersham. Obviously. And you are still hoping to get named the new Pope. That's yeah. Look, you know, I'm holding out. I'm holding out. I'm open to it. There's always a chance.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I'm open to it. I feel like that should have been a early 90s comedy where like John Goodman finds out, like gets a call. So you're basically saying, you're saying King Ralph. King Ralph. Starting John Goodman. out like gets a call. So you're basically saying you're saying King Ralph King Ralph John Ralph I like that your mind already went to a sequel a John Goodman movie where a guy just some schlub ends up being Yeah, yeah. Yeah Love to see it. Anyways, we're thrilled to have you back miles We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny stand-up comedian
Starting point is 00:09:06 Yes, and author whose book is Is it hot in here or am I suffering for all eternity for the sins? I committed on earth His debut special stand-up special surprise me premieres tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern on YouTube It's very funny. Go check it out. Please welcome Zack Zimmerman. Zach! Zach! Pew pew pew pew! Thank you boys for having me.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Do I need a unique nickname? You got one? As well? If you got one. What do you got? Well, I didn't know if those were original every show or those were things you've done for gil-ers. Those are classics. Weads of those are classics.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Canonically. Classic. Yeah, yeah. I don't I don't want to mock. Steven Seagal is Zimmerman. Oh, I'll go instead of Glimmerman. OK, yeah, that's just a pitch, but like you can beat it. Hey, it's going to be hard. It's going to be hard to beat. You set the bar pretty high. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:02 What was Steven Seagal Glimmerman? Him and Keenan wasn't that Keenan Ivory Wayans, too? Yeah I just couldn't remember if like glimmer man was the bad guy in it or if that was like if someone was like you're a real Glimmer man isn't like did he cut a dude's throat with a credit card in that movie? That sounds right self-defense Yeah, he has like a he has like a knife credit card and just like slashed it. And I was like, what the fuck is this movie? Yep. Credit card. Yep. Remember man, credit card knife scene. Yep. It's there. I did. I bought Easter eggs for a little hunt yesterday or two days ago.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And I went to the dollar store and my total, this is completely true came to $6 and 66. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, Lord, this is completely true came to $6 and 66. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, Lord, this is good. This is good. Did you, did you point that out? They're like, whoa. I told the cashier, I was like, that's not good.
Starting point is 00:10:54 And she didn't care. She was like, I'm being underpaid and exploited. Look man, please fucking go. I got a lot of tables. When you get out of my face, you have any ideas how many times that happens a day? Have you been to a Dollar Tree? Do you know what a Dollar Tree is, Jack? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:12 No, I was just quoting a cable guy. Janine Grafalo. Janine Grafalo and Cable Guy. Medieval times. When somebody's like, so they ask for a fork. And she's like, we don't do forks because here we eat like they did in medieval times. And Jim Carrey's character says, oh, but they had Pepsi.
Starting point is 00:11:32 She's just like, look, man, I got a lot of tables. All right. So anytime. Jack, you butchered the line and it's Matthew Broderick. Matthew Broderick. He says, can I get a utensil? He said, there were no utensils in medieval times, hence there are no utensils at medieval times.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Can I get you a refill? They had no utensils with that Pepsi? Look, I got a lot of tables. Anyway. Wow, you just did a deep cut reference and got fact checked. Yeah. I don't know if I can keep up with you boys.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Nah, this is called being a really pathetic person with a podcast. This is sort of the standard. Welcome to the fastest world of podcasting. What's your favorite movie you want to quote, bro? Love to hear it. I will argue, we're not in a quotable movie era. I haven't heard a good, I'll be back, or a good... I mean, I drink your milkshake was maybe the most recent great quote that's coming out of one. Yeah, what was the last? Yeah. That was a good, I mean, I drink your milkshake was maybe the most recent like great quote that's coming out of one.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Yeah, what was the last? That was a good one. Yeah. Like maybe some shit like Bane or something like that. Yeah, Bane is more just like people doing the voice, I feel like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was born in the dark. That's right.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Exactly. I was born in the dark is pretty good. Pretty undeniable. I have a phenomenal impression that is no longer culturally relevant, but it is pitch perfect if I can get into the, Go ahead, prepare. Previously, un-lost. Whoa. That's good.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Chills. No one remembers it. Chills. I do. Previously, un-lost. 4, 8, 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42, 4, 8, 15, 16, 20, 22. Wait, was it 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42? He's good.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Yep. He's good. Like numbers. They some say I'm an idiot. Not Penny's plane. Not Penny's plane. Not Penny's plane. Oh, Penny's boat. Penny's boat.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Oh, again with the fact check. Sorry, Zach. It's a steel trap up there. What a curse. Yeah, welcome to the Insufferable Assholes podcast. We got Zach Zimmerman on today. Is it exhausting being right all the time? It's exhausting being married to me.
Starting point is 00:13:36 That's right. Are you proposing? I'm proposing my wife doesn't leave me for just constantly sundowning with weird, out of context movie and TV show quotes. Incorrect, incorrect. I overhear something while we're recording, I open the door, I'm like, that's actually not right.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah, the smoke, no, that wasn't Jacob. That was never mine. You misquoted mean girls. Yeah. All right, Zach, we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. Pete Hagseth.
Starting point is 00:14:15 We talked about it on Yesterday is Trending, but things seem to be devolving for Pete in terms of his ability to stay employed as Secretary of Defense. He said yesterday, he was saying over the weekend, I talked to Trump, he said, we're good. So we're good, which is always a good sign when the person has quotes about what Trump said to them behind closed doors, but no Trump quotes are forthcoming on that person's behalf. So we'll continue to talk about the fallout from him. We'll also just general sloppiness from this administration.
Starting point is 00:14:50 We'll also talk about Kristi Noem's purse being stolen with $3,000 cash inside, allegedly. We'll talk about the continued fallout from Katy Perry's trip to space, kind of? Everyone, everyone's kind of getting flack, but a lot of people, the Katy Perry of it all, I think was especially kind of humiliating for her, because now, like over the weekend,
Starting point is 00:15:15 there's like things in the Daily Mail where one of her confidantes is like, yeah, I think she kind of regrets doing the most up there during that live stream. I mean, I think we're, regrets doing all that doing the most up there during that live stream. I Mean it's I think we're like the real product just don't do like massive Publicity stunts with Jeff Bezos like yeah, I think that's I feel like that might be your problem Yeah, they're not so much over here and down there, but right around the Jeff Bezos photo op So we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:15:45 And then we'll talk about the movie Sinners, a huge hit. Ryan Coogler's Sinners, all sorts of incredibly impressive results. Best performance by an original movie since before the pandemic. Wow. That's fucking wild. And the variety and other kind of mainstream media outlets are like, yeah, I mean, okay. I guess you could say that's good. I wonder why.
Starting point is 00:16:14 But here's why it's not good. Yeah, so we'll talk about that. I wonder why. Why there might be a double standard. You ever heard about one of those, a double standard? No. Is that like a single standard? It's like, so it's similar to a single standard, but you do,
Starting point is 00:16:28 you do a different one for a different person. It's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I know it's, we, we know nothing of it. Uh, in my world, Zach, your head's gonna spin when you hear this. Zach, you're not going to believe it. Like one of those ro those humanoid robots in the marathon, your head will spin right off. All of that plenty more, but first, Zach, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:16:56 So on Sunday, I got high and went to an evangelical church service. Oh my God. Which I thought was... It was 420 Eastern. Let me do it. it. I haven't been to church in 20 years. And I... Wow. You did the two things. I did the things. Yeah, the two big things.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I was worried I would leave converted, but what I actually thought was the thing that I searched, which is while this pastor, this young handsome guys given his sermon, I'm like, is his wife blowing him? Like are, can Christians give- Blow jobs? Yeah, so I Googled, can Christians give blow jobs? I was just, that's where my high brain went. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:42 So the whole time he's talking and you're like, dude, what if it's like a sin to get domed up from Val's partner? That's what came to, cause he's, I don't know, so wholesome. I just couldn't see anything other. Oh, you saw him as like asexual almost. No, I saw procreative, gentle,
Starting point is 00:18:04 condomless, penetrative intercourse. He had like the gay haircut from 10 years ago too. I don't know if that's the fashion now amongst straight pastors, but he had like a skin fade on the sides. He was a handsome guy. He was beautiful. Talk telling me about the gospel
Starting point is 00:18:21 and how the resurrection of Christ matters. But turns out yes, in a marital context. I read an article on Christianity.com. It's okay in a marital context? Yes, as long as everyone is enjoying it. Was that part of it? Sure. Yeah. That doesn't sound like Christianity to me.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Doesn't sound... That doesn't sound right. I think we have to go back. Everyone? Did you wait to leave before you Googled that? Yeah, I didn't sound right. I think we have to go back. Did you wait to leave before you Googled that? Yeah, I didn't want that. That'd be wild. Someone just looks over your shoulder from the aisle behind. Hey Siri. I had to fight the urge to be like, you're all sheep. This is a lie. I mean, what even drew you to do that? You said it's been 20 years. Was it just kind of like a morbid curiosity?
Starting point is 00:19:06 Like, let me get fucking really high and then subject myself to a Easter service. Yeah, I was curious. I mean, I think I always like, I have a bunch of evangelical trauma, so it's kind of fun when I can go back and be above it. Right, right, right. And kind of not feel triggered by this space
Starting point is 00:19:26 and see it from a distance. So I was curious. And then I was, I don't know, I think there was something to glean from. He was saying, God thinks you should live your life to the fullest. So I was like, okay, I can get behind that. Okay, TikTok influencer.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Yeah. I'm with that. Or maybe I hoped that they would like say something salacious or interesting. I am always curious about the role hell plays today. Like I grew up, tons of hell in church. They bury hell now. They barely talk about it. They don't even talk about hell anymore. No, no. Yeah. I got my fill of evangelical stuff and when I lived in Kentucky for a few years
Starting point is 00:20:03 and yeah, they were, they were telling people they were going to hell, like a kid died and they were like, we don't think he was saved, unfortunately. So FYI, be saved. By the way, do you think that your search killed the pope, like you searching that on Easter? Do you think that that was too much for the Pope as well? Maybe I think he was making a similar search and got domed up by JD Vance. People are thinking JD killed the Pope. JD pleased the Pope. And he left the church. Oh, interesting. If it would please the church. This is the type of conspiracy theory I'm here for. Because it's hot. That JD Vans'... His toppy game is next level that he
Starting point is 00:20:51 took the pope's soul. Blew the pope to death? There's a reason he got appointed despite them being very different parts of the conservative party. He's got mad... Those lips. Those eyes. Those Kentucky tongues. Those eyelashes. Was he Kentucky? I thought Ohio. Southern Ohio maybe. Ohio sounds right. Yeah. Zach, what's something you think's underrated? The Dunkin' Donuts mobile app brings me a lot of joy. I don't hear people talking about it enough. I'm rolling into a Dunkin'. My order's already ready for me. I'm getting points. They just had a promotion. I got four points, four times points on National Cold Brew Day a few days ago. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:21:31 The offers are consistent. The products are what you pay for. What's your order? I think everybody should download the Dunkin Donuts. What's your order? Use promo code Zack Zimmerman. The, so this is one of those things where you hear people who are like privacy experts say, don't use the apps because they're like selling your information or they're and
Starting point is 00:21:57 but on the other hand they are better. Like a lot of them are just much better than not using the apps. And I'm like, uh, who was Duncan and don't was going to do with my information. My psychographic data. Yeah. Like I don't know that they build a psychographic data profile of me and it knows that like, like what I'm in the mood for. I'm sure there's like some darker, you know, that I did submit a DNA sample to them and that might've been a little bit
Starting point is 00:22:24 overboard. And I was going to tell you, I'm like, Jack, you can just enter in them and that might have been a little bit overboard. I was going to tell you, I'm like, Jack, you can just enter in the app that sour cream donuts are your favorite donut. No, I better do this. They didn't ask for the DNA sample. So I might be in some trouble for another reason. But what's your go-to at Dunkin?
Starting point is 00:22:40 I'm doing a black cold brew medium. And recently they've had a Dunking's promotion, $6 for ice coffee. Put that crown on your head, King. Put the crown on my head. And then donut wise, I'm not going to Dunking for my donuts. Oh, wow. I'm sorry. Oh, so your order is mostly just coffee. It's just coffee.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Yeah. Wow. Okay. Good for you. It's just coffee. Yeah. Wow. Okay That actually makes makes sense to me. I think I think that's right. I think you're Great decision this point. Yes, but I just thanks my sponsorship. They were like you Shut on the part of the business Donuts not a fan of the doughnuts. Actually, they're not called donuts anymore, so they know what's up. Oh yeah, they deleted that a while back.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Oh, they're just dunkin'. They're just dunkin'. I think IHOP did that too. They were like, we're not international house of pancakes anymore. We're just IHOP. Yeah. Fine. And that's, I remember that.
Starting point is 00:23:38 They're like, we have burger. So you're aware, sir, that that doesn't mean anything? Yeah. IHOP doesn't. Oh. It's a discontinued Apple robot toy they were thinking about releasing, the IHOP. And we didn't, yeah, we just, it's IHOP.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yeah, they went from like being a donut thing to being like, we're fucking cranking here. American runs on Duncan. Right. Their whole thing is just, yeah, they know what side their bread is buttered on and it's a weird legal speed. Yeah. What's something you think's overrated? Lady Gaga. Just kidding. I love her. She's my, yeah, yeah, no. But I do think- Miles's face was dead serious. I was like, what happened? Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I do think maybe it depends on your community, but I think outdoor music festivals have never appealed to me. And people seem to be having a lot of fun outside in the hot sun at a music festival rocking out. I'm seeing not in responses from you boys. I guess I've gone for the wrong thing. No, no, I'm saying- No, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:24:50 We're just old. It's been- Yeah, I'm old. You don't have to tell us this. I'm in the elder community. What community were you speaking from when you said the position? That's basically what I,
Starting point is 00:24:58 no, that's what I was thinking. Have I aged out of when being in a horde was fun? Well, I think the heat makes it suck. That's why like Coachella, the times when it was hot, I'm like, this is fucking terrible. Like I can't handle this shit. But no, I'm there with you. Like the lineup has to be really good
Starting point is 00:25:18 for me to want to be like in a mass of people. And I think that's the thing, as I become older and more watched, I went from knowing like 80% of the lineups I would see on a given like for a festival to now being like, I know the headliners and like six random artists on there. And I'm, you know, I'm just realizing the pace at which new artists come out is just, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:25:38 So the aging makes you crave comfort more and also the music is not as alluring to overcome the discomfort. Yeah, I guess. I mean, although I love outside lands and that's because the temperature in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco is just conducive to being able to like stand outside for many hours without becoming exhausted from merely being outside. Maybe I'm willing to adjust then to hot, too hot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:07 What, you know what's overrated? Hot temperatures. Hey, whoa. For too long, we've been celebrating 90 degrees. We should have been celebrating 66. Oh, that's perfect. 0.6 degrees. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Did you see, yo, did you see the clips of Justin Bieber at Coachella? No. Turning up. He looks not good, bro. Sorry, I'm trying to act young. What'd you say? But the Sahara Tent was really hitting.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Oh my God, there's also this other artist that I've, we've gone out on a couple of her songs, Lola Young. She was super sick last week and was like choking back, she was like gagging on stage. She was so sick. It was like, I felt so bad. I was like, oh, she's like, I'm nervous, I'm sick. It was too hot. This was like the worst fucking performance I've ever had. We can't tell you better.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I think those are the lyrics actually too. I'm nervous, I'm fucking hot. I'm too sick, sorry. This is the worst show ever. So what happened with Justin Bieber? Because I saw headlines and it's just seeing people kind of break down is somewhat depressing to me. So I don't. Yeah, he was just he just looked like he was off the shits.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I don't know. He just did not look. Was he there? He was performing. No, no, no, no. He was just like in the like crowd and shit and just like people were no flicks of him Okay, like he looked. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you know, he looks like fucked up. Yeah, you look super fucked up Oh, yeah And like, you know We just you see this all the time like so many of these kids who start off like becoming celebrities really young
Starting point is 00:27:40 It just it's always like such a dark path really young. It just, it's always like such a dark path. So I'm like, oh, God, I feel, I hope, I hope you get better, Justin Bieber. This did not look good. Yeah. I can't wait until the TikTok kids stars today have their crash outs in 20 years. Yeah. Like the cute kid who's like, thank you, mommy, for his meals or- Right. The Rizzler? No.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Oh, the Rizzler's crashzo. Or the Rizzo. Let's crash out. Poor kid. That's gonna watch it. Yeah, that's gonna be bad. He's gonna, it'll probably be like at a, at a Costco or some shit too. You know, they'll bring back the dooms. Have you guys talked about the doom meter?
Starting point is 00:28:18 No, no, you know, the booms, right? Of course. We raid everything. Every story we cover on today's episode, Zach will be covered, will be rated by booms, right? Of course. That's how we raid everything. Every story we cover on today's episode, Zach, will be covered, will be raided by booms. The Costco guys used to give things booms or dooms. Oh, really? They had this rebrand, I think about the time they went on Fallon where they changed it. It's all booms. All positivity. Yeah. I didn't care for it. Sold out.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Yeah, they've been captured. They really did. They've been captured. So now bad, a doom is basically one boom. Okay. Yeah, that's as bad as it can get. It's an inflation situation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Yeah. Because they don't want to give anything a doom because then they won't get their little sponsorship. I knew that little boy was a fucking coward, dude. I will say, I think the Rizler, I'm taking the over on him. I think the Rizzler is gonna be the president of the United States. I don't think there's a crash out coming.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I think he will only astound and amaze us from this point. If only I had a Reddit bot for real life. Remind me in 10 years. Is this your king? Yeah. Reddit bot for real life, remind me in 10 years. Jared L Take a break, Jesus. Let me handle things, man. Let's take a break. Let Jesus take the wheel for a couple minutes of ads, and we'll be right back to talk about some news. Hey kids, it's me, Kevin Smith. And it's me, Harley Quinn Smith. That's my daughter, man, who my wife has always said is just a beardless, d***less version of me. And that's the name of our podcast, Be beardless, d***less version of me. And that's the name of our podcast, Beardless D***less Me.
Starting point is 00:30:07 I'm the old one. I'm the young one. And every week we try to make each other laugh really hard. Sounds innocent, doesn't it? A lot of cussing, a lot of bad language. It's for adults only. Or listen to it with your kid. It could be a family show.
Starting point is 00:30:18 We're not quite sure. We're still figuring it out. It's a work in progress. Listen to Beardless D***less Me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. On November 5th, 2018, at 6.33am, a red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in a ditch out in Sleephole Valley. The driver's seat door was open.
Starting point is 00:30:43 No traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle. No belongings were found. Except for a cassette tape lodged in the player. On that tape were ten... vile... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no! grotesque... Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Oh my God, horrific stories that to this day have been kept restricted from the public. Until now. You feeling this too? A horror anthology podcast. Listen on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sonoro and iHeart's MyCultura podcast network present The Setup, a new romantic comedy podcast starring Harvey Guillen and Christian Navarro.
Starting point is 00:31:38 The Setup follows a lonely museum curator searching for love. But when the perfect man walks into his life... Well, I guess I'm saying I like you. You like me? He actually is too good to be true. This is a con, I'm conning you. To get the gelato painting. We could do this together.
Starting point is 00:31:56 To pull off this heist, they'll have to get close and jump into the deep end together. That's a huge leap, Fernando, don't you think? After you, Chulito. But love is the biggest risk they'll ever take. Fernando is never going to love you as much as he loves this job. Chulito, that painting is ours.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Listen to The Set Up as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network available on the iHeartRad app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Are we ready to fight? I'm ready to fight. As you always fight. Is that what I thought it was? Oh, this is fighting words.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Okay. I'll put the hammer back. Hi, I'm George M. Johnson, a bestselling author with the second most banned book in America. Now more than ever, we need to use our voices to fight back. And that's what we're doing on Fighting Words. We're not gonna let anyone silence us. That's the reason why they're banning books like yours, George.
Starting point is 00:32:56 That's the reason why they're trying to stop the teaching of black history or queer history, any history that challenges the whitewash norm. Or put us in a box. Black people never, ever depended on the so-called mainstream to support us. That's why we are great. We are the greatest culture makers in world history. Listen to Fighting Words on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
Starting point is 00:33:21 you get your podcast. And we're back. We're back. And that part where you look back and you see only ads, that was the part where he was carrying us all, you guys. It's not a full episode unless I make a footstep, a reference to the footsteps. This is which was your favorite ad that just played. Probably the Chipotle one.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Yeah. Yeah. That one's good. Yeah. Double miles loves that. They still won't give me the wooden card. You know, that's what I want. I just want to eat. I'll just eat the beans. Honestly. I'm just eating beans from there all the time. Is that the free for life black card? Yeah, that's like the coveted, yeah, yeah. The credit card, that'll get you Chipotle for life. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:34:13 I just had my Ralph's key, like the little thing that goes on your key chain. Yeah, yeah. Disintegrated? I've had it for 12 years, man. It just came off the key chain last night. Yeah. Me and my local Ralph's cashier were like,
Starting point is 00:34:30 god, we looked at each other. Yeah. And it kind of went like he did. When he took it, it pulled off. I'm so sorry, man. Oh, he did it. Yeah, he did it. But I couldn't be madder.
Starting point is 00:34:42 You didn't call the manager? The thing was not me. Yeah, let me get your manager over here.'t be mad. I mean, the thing was not your manager over here. Why don't you get your manager? Yeah. Sorry. These are good. But let me talk to your manager and see how we can really test how sorry you are. I've had this plastic rectangle on my keychain for 12 fucking years, but no more filthy. I have one from loyalty mean nothing to you, Ralph. I have one from raided here. Although why aren't you just punching your number in? Because it's easier.
Starting point is 00:35:10 I don't know. I do if I forget or if we have different keys. That's a good reveal of how you look at class. Do you hand them your key for them to scan or do you punch in your number yourself and do the labor? I scan it myself, man. Can just swipe that shit. You just do it over the thing while they're,
Starting point is 00:35:26 while they're, you just scan it. Excuse me, out of my way, out of my way. I wanna do it, I wanna do it. Let me put the apron on, let me put the apron on. You're, you are a true revolutionary. Yes, that's right. Truly, truly. Wait, where were we with this?
Starting point is 00:35:39 How did we, weren't we about to talk about Pete Hegseth? Oh no. Yeah, you were talking about your Tole card and how you want it so that you can just go in, ask for a large drink and fill it up with beans. Yep. Just right over, I just reach over the sneeze guard. Ah, let me just scoop out again.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Sir, I'm good, I got the winning card. I'm good, I'm good. Just tap with the bottom of the cup. Chugging some beans. Isn't that just, isn't that coffee? Mm-hmm. That's right Hey, and if we're being honest, and I think we are Zach today blew my mind. Yeah Today only we're being honest Let's talk about Pete Hague. So Zach fan. Are you a fan? You know, I I liked his early work
Starting point is 00:36:23 This guy so good's so good. Not washing your hands after peeing. He's such a messy little bitch, which is okay, we've learned, if you're president, but if you're secretary of defense, you gotta be a little serious about your job. A little bit. I think that's one of the big ones.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Yeah. He just likes being, he's like, well, I have slick back hair and I always have like an America handkerchief in my pocket. So I'm defensive defensive secretary of defense. I don't trust handsome people in roles where they should just know lots of things. There's a reason why they call Washington DC Hollywood for ugly people.
Starting point is 00:36:56 It's because it's that, but they're smarter than people in Hollywood. That's just, that's why they're taking Pete Haig Seth down. He's too beautiful for Hollywood. They're just jealous. That should be his defense. Because his current defense of, you guys just hate me because you ain't me, liberal media isn't really working.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Yeah. So, I mean, look, there's been Signalgate, Signalgate 2. Now NPR is reporting that inside the White House, the search hath begun for a new drunken white supremacist super soldier to be secretary of defense. So yeah, I just, I think we were all shocked just because he's terrible at his job.
Starting point is 00:37:35 And you know, like, I just don't understand. And like his appointment has only led to more chaos within the Pentagon. Dude, this place has gone soft. I've been saying this for a long time. Mass firings are a good thing, no matter what. And Pete Hegseth, I think, proved that. But over the weekend too, like all of the Hegseth flunkies
Starting point is 00:37:53 at the Pentagon really did their best to try and make this a non-stop. It's like, another day, another fake story, blowing stuff out of proportion. Like he absolutely cares about the safety of our war fighters, our warriors. throwing stuff out of proportion. Like he absolutely cares about the safety of our war fighters, our warriors. And yeah, like we said on Monday's episode,
Starting point is 00:38:12 when Hegseth was speaking to the press at the White House, it looks, now looking at what we know now, I'm like, oh, this guy really was, he was fighting for his life with that one. He was tilting. Yeah. He was on edge. She's like looking at the camera, Zach, I don't assume that you watched Pete Hegseth's interview at the white white house Easter egg roll. Um, but
Starting point is 00:38:36 okay, interesting. Good. Well, it would be good cause he is making deep eye contact with just down the barrel of the camera for no reason. And like in a way that's just feels really unmediatrain for somebody who's got their start being a talking head on television. But I think I think he's just kind of erratic and probably, you know, six whiskeys deep. Yeah, it's pretty late on Sunday morning. So. I don't know. I mean, this is the one they wanted. You know, like this is they were like, this guy will do the most damage and do it unflinchingly,
Starting point is 00:39:15 unquestioningly. So I know in terms of like the utter destruction of norms angle, I think they really wanted him. But who knows at this point? Yeah, I mean, they might just honestly be like, gets like a true like a like a war criminal out of like a cryo freeze that they reanimated to be like, and we got Andrew Jackson back baby. But yeah, it's we will see where they go with this. But it sounds like basically because the Pentagon
Starting point is 00:39:45 was just in full chaos mode, it was taking up too much of Trump's attention because then he can't golf and he's like, well, then we need to get rid of someone. But at that same Easter egg event, someone asked him about Pete Hegseth and he was like, just ask the 90s band, the Hooties, what they think of Pete Hegseth. This was him giving his semi what they think of Pete Hegseth.
Starting point is 00:40:05 This was him giving his semi vote of confidence to Pete Hegseth. Ask the hoodies how much this function is. Pete's doing a great job. He said at, not the, not the hoothies in Yemen. He's, he was trying to reference the hoothies who they were bombing. He said, it was doing a good job, ask the Houthis. One more time. Ask the Houthis how much this function is.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Dude, he can't even get through this sentence. Fucking swish. Ask this the Houthis, fuck it, yeah, we're going to fire them. All I can think is a Houthodies as a synonym for boobs. And I'm trying to think of a situation where someone is like, ask the boobs if they had fun. And it's like, who are you talking about? Sorry.
Starting point is 00:40:56 I mean, hoody hooo! I fucked that up. Yeah, fire him. Fire him. That was his bad. Get rid of him. Get rid of him. For a replacement, because Trump is so television brained, do we think he's going to try and
Starting point is 00:41:06 go after the general from the insurance commercial? Oh, from the commercials? Yeah. The lowest car insurance rate in town, call 1-800-GENERAL-NOT. Yeah. I feel like the general would be on his short list. I mean, at this point, it could probably, it would probably even be like when Lacey Mosley dressed as the general for Halloween that one year, that she would somehow pick her. That would be good enough. Get me that general. It's like, hey, that's Lacey Mosley dressed as the general for Halloween that one year, that he would somehow pick her.
Starting point is 00:41:25 That would be good enough. Get me that general. It's like, that's Lacey Mosley. No, no, no. That one, the beautiful one. We could bring in Cap'n Crunch from retirement. Have him lead the way. He does have that mark on his record where the flub where oops, all Crunch Berries.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Hey, look, we've all like I mean, admitted fuck up. An admitted fuck up. Elon must make clear we make mistakes. We kill some people. We apologize for those mistakes. We're moving fast. And then we move fast. Yeah. I mean, at this rate though, too,
Starting point is 00:41:56 I'd even believe they'd be like, we've actually brought back Dwight Eisenhower as an AI to make all defense decisions. Who better than the great Ike Dwight Eisenhower? I don't know, I mean, like, they'll find someone. He does love a nickname. It'll just be someone that he can control and end of story, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:15 I mean, I think it's a good, it's always a good sign when they can't stomach their own cabinet members so quickly. And that- So quickly. They're just like, yeah, bro, we don't, they're all fucking, they're all suck at this and it's causing more problems. We thought once you enter office, everyone just blindly does what you say,
Starting point is 00:42:33 even if it's illegal or immoral. Yeah. It's only in certain, only certain instances they do that. That's a beautiful frame or just to be like, oh, this is good. They're firing someone who did a bad thing. There's no, there is a limit.
Starting point is 00:42:46 There is a line. I think it's more that it's just don't embarrass us, like do all the illegal shit. But the second now everyone's like, look at these fucking just completely inept people trying to be serious about running the government. I think that's where they have trouble because then they have to go out there and be like, who hasn't leaked war? like, you know what I mean? Like they have to do that same thing where they just like distill like a really terrible thing
Starting point is 00:43:11 down to a very basic premise. Who hasn't leaked classified information ahead of a military strike on the Houthis? Yeah, he's- You get one- Ask the Houthis. Yeah. You get one, never two.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Never two, exactly. Same thing with like, you know, this happened with, what's his face? The former EPA guy during Trump's first, what the fuck? Now I'm completely fucking this up. What was his name? You got it, you can do this.
Starting point is 00:43:40 I got it, I got it, it's coming. Scott Pruitt. Scott, yeah, Scott something. Scott Pruitt from Scott, yeah, yeah, yeah. Scott Pruitt. Scott Pruitt from the EPA. Cause he had to also resign. It was fine when he was doing all the earth fucking shit at the EPA, but when all these embarrassing stories came out about like buying weird mattresses
Starting point is 00:43:54 and like using like police sirens to buy Dean and DeLuca chocolate, that he was like, come the fuck. Yeah, Trump's just like a mean girl, right? Like it's just the thing, the story that is embarrassing is the thing he's gonna respond to. He doesn't give a fuck if it's like, there's like procedural stuff or like a story that requires him to do reading or homework
Starting point is 00:44:15 to understand why it's bad, that you're going to be safe there. It's just, if it's something where people are like, oh, that's a bad look, he's gonna be like, yeah, fuck that guy, get him out of oh, that's a bad look. He's going to be like, yeah, fuck that guy. Get him out of here. He hates a bad look. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Yeah, so that's what you can't do. And this has just the right shape of that. I'm not saying he's definitely going to get fired. But it just, him leak. So there was already the leak. It was a big bad story that they had to talk their way out of and excuse. And didn't even do that. And then him doing that to his wife and brother is just like,
Starting point is 00:44:49 so just on the surface, which is all Trump cares about. It looks really bad. It is because it is an escalation. The first one, it's like, fine. Another guy errantly put this person in there. Pete Hegseth was on it, but now Pete Hegseth started and it's not even people that are part of the fucking government. Right. Then how do you do this now? I haven't seen the text, but have we considered these might, this might have just been some
Starting point is 00:45:12 sexting happening that's been misconstrued as war plans. Sexting with- He was just texting his wife like, hey baby, can't wait to blow up some stuff tomorrow. Blow up them hoodies. Yeah. Blow up them hoodies. Ask them about my hoodies. Yeah, wait till this FAA18 strike package
Starting point is 00:45:28 hits your base in Yemen at 1630 PM. 18, I'm hoping it's packing. Well, well, well. No, oh, sorry, I'm describing the military strike. Oh yeah, yeah, this is, yeah, this isn't sexting, babe. This isn't sexting. And why is your brother being invited to our? Eh, you know. She's not into it. And why is your brother being invited to our, eh, you know, kind of a-
Starting point is 00:45:46 She's not into it. She's not, if she's not into it, that's fine. You gotta go. That's fine. He doesn't have to be involved. He is just gonna watch. Yeah, we tried the white lotus thing. It's not working out.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Yeah, yeah. Also just a thing that would be a year defining scandal in a democratic administration. Kristi Noem's purse got stolen with all her credentials inside and $3,000 of cash. That's just, it's the sort of thing that won't make a, won't even register for this administration, but also $3,000 is a suspiciously significant amount of cash
Starting point is 00:46:20 for somebody to be holding, but maybe not. I don't know. Is that what these people, they just. Whenever I had over $200 on me cash and it wasn't in the context of me just coming from the bank, it's because I was dealing drugs. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:36 That's me, but that's just me. If for her, it could be bribes, it could be a scam, or she's trying to be like, I had $3,000 cash in there too. But I don't know who that, I don't know if there's an insurance policy you scam to be like, oh, 3000, okay. Well, well, I'm just gonna hold.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Committing the most public insurance fraud possible. I also had a tiny original Picasso in there. So those are other things. she went to Capital Burger. It was at a burger place. You got your fucking burgers are expensive. I know it at two in the morning because in in that case, she was absolutely fucked up. There's like no burger place. Yeah. Losing your purse is some fucked up drunk person behavior.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Yeah, no, no. Three grand is also in like the the sex work category of like sort of hiring or being paid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it's like it is a fancy interior. It looks like a fancy burger. A fancy burger.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Yeah. It's like a five guys or whatever. But but yeah, I mean, mean, please tell us more about how we can keep America safe when you lost track of your fucking purse and just got that shit ganked at the burger restaurant. That's right. Yeah, not great.
Starting point is 00:47:54 All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the Girlboss space flight. We'll be right back. Hey kids, it's me, Kevin Smith. And it's me, Harley Quinn Smith. We'll be right back. really hard. Sounds innocent doesn't it? A lot of cussing, a lot of bad language. It's for adults only. Or listen to it with your kid. Could be a family show. We're not quite sure. We're still figuring it out. It's a work in progress. Listen to Beardless, it's me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever. You get your podcast. On November 5th 2018 at 6 33 a.m. a red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in a ditch out in Sleephole Valley.
Starting point is 00:48:49 The driver's seat door was open. No traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle. No belongings were found, except for a cassette tape lodged in the player. On that tape were 10 vile, grotesque, horrific stories that to this day have been until now. No! No, no, no! You feeling this too? A horror anthology podcast. Listen on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:49:34 or wherever you get your podcasts. Sonoro and iHeart's MyCultura podcast network present The Setup, a new romantic comedy podcast starring Harvey Guillen and Christian Navarro. The Setup, a new romantic comedy podcast starring Harvey Yen and Christian Navarro. The Set Up follows a lonely museum curator searching for love.
Starting point is 00:49:50 But when the perfect man walks into his life. Well, I guess I'm saying I like you. You like me? He actually is too good to be true. This is a con, I'm conning you. To get the Delano painting, we could do this together. To pull off this heist, they'll have to get close and jump into the deep end together.
Starting point is 00:50:10 That's a huge leap, Fernando, don't you think? After you, Chulito. But love is the biggest risk they'll ever take. Fernando is never going to love you as much as he loves this dog. Chulito, That painting is ours. Listen to The Setup as part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Are we ready to fight? I'm ready to fight. You ready to fight? Is that what I thought it was? Oh, this is fighting words. Okay, I'll put the hammer back. Hi, I'm George M. Johnson, a bestselling author with the second most banned book in America.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Now more than ever, we need to use our voices to fight back. And that's what we're doing on Fighting Words. We're not gonna let anyone silence us. That's the reason why they're banning books like yours, George. That's the reason why they're banning books like yours, George. That's the reason why they're trying to stop the teaching of black history or queer history, any history that challenges the whitewash norm. Or put us in a box.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Black people have never, ever, depended on the so-called mainstream to support us. That's why we are great. We are the greatest culture makers in world history. Listen to Fighting Words on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. We're back. What was your favorite ad, Jack, that just played? Oh, man. The one where Jeff Bezos came on himself and just talked to us about progressive politics and like how we need to forget about them. I think he said, just let me handle it, guys. Quote the actual thing when he goes, the progressive politics, forget about it.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Is Jeff Bezos drunk? No. Anyways, yeah. So this is one of those familiar positions of having to shoot down dumb conspiracies about something that itself sucks and is not worth defending. But there were, so there was a ton of conspiracy theories
Starting point is 00:52:29 last week that, so Katy Perry and Gayle King and Jeff Bezos' girlfriend and a bunch of- Warren Sanchez, former local news person in Los Angeles on Fox 11. They went to space, came back, and people were like, I don't believe it. I think they were just like, most people hadn't been paying attention when the billionaires were going
Starting point is 00:52:55 to space and just kind of dipping their toe in the space and being like, technically, we've been to space. In your face, everybody. Right, right. I am an astronaut. Any questions? I am an astronaut. Any questions? I am an astronaut, and you will address me as such. Because the big astronaut story before this was people,
Starting point is 00:53:11 someone lived in space for not that couple of people lived there for nine months. So that's what we're expecting. People were comparing pictures of Katy Perry on her little 10-minute space, in in quotes flight with pictures of the astronaut who had been there for six months. And they were like, that looks like space hair. The woman who had been there, whose hair was just like flowing in all directions.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Whereas Katy Perry's hair was like still kind of neat and didn't look like it had even been hit by much wind, to be honest. And people were like, that's, she didn't actually go to space. And like, that's true in the technical sense. Like when these- It's true that she went to space in the technical sense, right? That she crossed that threshold 62 miles in the sky that now you are in space. But I think it's the microgravity of it all, that people are like, what the fuck is microgravity, the hair doesn't move. Yeah, it's it's all and there's so one of the things they're pointing to was the
Starting point is 00:54:10 hair. Another thing they're pointing to was that like when space capsules come back to Earth from being actually like in outside of the atmosphere in space, they like get burnt and like you can see like the burn marks on them. And this one was nice and clean and people were like, that's, well, this just looks like they just like took it and placed it there. And of course that's because it didn't have to come. It didn't, it didn't enter orbit and then have to come back through the atmosphere and like turn into a ball of fire.
Starting point is 00:54:42 It just like hit the technical limit of space and then came back. It was like dipping its toe in a pool and then being like, I'm an Olympic swimmer. And if you were faking it, you would muddy it a little. This is like a rookie move to have a pristine capsule come back if you're gonna fake it. Yeah, there's also the thing about like Jeff Bezos opened the door inward. I was like, I don't know what the fuck that's supposed to mean. Wait, it's so funny. The video, have you seen it?
Starting point is 00:55:05 I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that clip. I saw the other one. He goes up. They want this big moment where Jeff is like opening the capsule, but someone inside opens it before he gets there. They just landed and they go to open it. And they're like, the press person is like, close it, close it.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Cause they want this big like camera moment. Jeff opens it. And then they're like, oh, I'm going to go to the press. And then they're like, oh, I'm going to go to the press. And then they're like, oh They just landed and they go to open it. And they're like, the press person is like, close it, close it, because they want this big like camera model, Jeff opening it, but they had already opened this.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And I think that's the thing people, I mean, rightly, the people who have actually, you know, use that as the main point of their critique. I think that's where it should be, because there's too many people who are like, who gives a shit at these broads when they're not fucking out, like whatever to that part. It's like, it's the going along with the Jeff Bezos
Starting point is 00:55:49 vanity space thing while like, while meanwhile on earth, everything is falling apart and we have terrible inequalities. Like come read the fucking room here for a second. Like that's, I think the more of the critiques that I've read that I'm like, yeah, that's a bad look. Yeah, apparently it takes a ton of jet fuel to get this thing to the border of space,
Starting point is 00:56:10 to the point that people were saying that this was as damaging to the environment as the entirety of Taylor Swift's Eros tour. No, is that an actual measurement they did? I saw that somewhere, so I can tell you that for I can tell you that I saw it on the internet. I did see that on the internet. Why don't you guys support women reaching new heights? That's what I'm hearing.
Starting point is 00:56:33 That's why can't we let them? That's what's so frustrating about is just like the it's like they make us have to like side with like, well, what? You're going to be one of these right wing trolls that says that this is like artificial. It's like, well, no, I don't think it's artificial. It's just super, it's just stupid. Super official. It's just dumb. And it's just, it's, it's meaningless in the sense that like this is just helps bring more attention to Bezos' space program and Katy Perry's tour, which is so weird and she's flashing the set list.
Starting point is 00:57:12 You're spending your time in space like, and my tour no one will go to, here's a set list for you to see. Those are all the parts, I'm just like such an eye roll. Meanwhile, the two other people that were actual like scientists. I'm glad they aren't being mentioned in the same breath because like, well, those two people are actual scientists. Gail came up at all, I don't know. And the Lawrence Sanchez of it all, who knows? But it is, sometimes people just use anything
Starting point is 00:57:40 as a chance to express their hate for a specific person. Some of this feels very just like, oh, a lot of people just don't like Katy Perry. And this is a new fuel, because they all deserve equal hate if it's the project at large. All of the things that people are pointing out about this flight are true of many of the flights
Starting point is 00:57:59 that billionaires took to space, but because these are women, everybody is pissed off and like turning up. But one of the ones they're like, look at this picture. There's like a dummy's hand in the capsule. And it was like a capsule from like a test flight in 2017. They just like switched it in for like, just to, I don't know, make the case that, yeah. It's such a bigger L to like come after this thing.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And then with the stupidest angle, like this picture from 2017, what? Not real, like why would they fake it? That's so stupid. This is in the Daily Mail, there was like this whole thing about like Katy Perry regretting Blue Origin flight and amidst continued criticism. It said, after the insiders told Daily Mail,
Starting point is 00:58:49 after the flight sparked backlash that Perry has taken the criticism hard and was stunned by the public branding her quote tone deaf and quote embarrassing. This was the insider said, Katy doesn't regret going to space. It was life-changing. What she does regret is making a public spectacle out of it.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Maybe, maybe. It was life-changing. What she does regret is making a public spectacle out of it. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Maybe maybe they need to take up book A page out of like the Pete Hegseth book just don't change course Katy Perry. Just you did the thing stand by it Don't admit you've done anything wrong. Just be proud of what you did. Just makes it look weird Man, yeah the tour would y'all go? Would y'all? I love free stuff. It'd be hard to turn down a free space flight. I would go live on TikTok and see if I see if it goes up that far. I don't, I mean up, up there, maybe I want to say, I have no desire to do that. I want to, I mean,
Starting point is 00:59:42 I want to go to outer space just generally as a sensation. But if I have to do that and be one of Jeff Bezos's little puppets on the ship, I don't know about that. So you do a SpaceX flight then? Yeah, yeah. The SpaceX definitely more for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:59 That one goes higher. I would do it for the opportunity to shake hands with Jeff Bezos. That's what I would do. No, that was all, I was like always one of the highest thoughts I had in college was like, do you remember that guy Felix Baumgartner like jumped out of that hot air balloon from outer space? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Yeah. That to me, I was like, dude, I want to get so high and do that. Like just purely- Literally high? Both, literally and literally in both ways. Just burn up, go up in that hot air balloon and be like, I'm about to feel infinity. That was the thing I'd always say in college,
Starting point is 01:00:33 like dude, just feeling infinity all around you. That shit must be crazy. Yeah, that was my thing. So they need to take the six women that did the space flight and just hotbox in a car and let's watch the same Just get them as high as possible. I want to see Gale King. Hi. Oh, she could go to space Yeah that way she'd probably say some really interesting stuff I'd imagine. All right. I do just want to talk about the the weekend box office Ryan Coogler's sinners Beat a Minecraft movie dethroned a Minecraft movie, dethroned a Minecraft movie, and became the number one
Starting point is 01:01:07 movie at the box office. It made 45.6 million domestically, 61 million worldwide, beating expectations. It's the best opening for an original film since pre-pandemic times. Wait, so which one was? Oh, Us. So Us was the the last movie which was the original prepay, huh? Okay, so another black helm interesting film that just it blew away expectations Over-performing people would say to be slightly pejorative. It's actually over performing. Oh Expectations are always low on these that's so weird when it's a black filmmaker. What is it about these filmmakers that they have in common? Is Ryan Coogler black? I believe, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Oh. Nah, couldn't be. I know a couple guys named Ryan who aren't. So. Actually, most of the Ryan's I know, my homie's Ryan, all white guys. All white dudes. But yeah, so there's a couple of headlines.
Starting point is 01:02:03 There's a variety story and a New York Times story that like on Sunday. So like the day that the box office is being like reported, it immediately had the backlash take of actually, this isn't that good. Oh, so variety said Sinners has amassed 61 million in its global debut It's a great result for an original R rated horror film yet The Warner Brothers release has a 90 million dollar price tag before global marketing expenses So profitability remains a ways away sounds like it does even a fraction of what it did this first weekend It's profitable. Yeah, it's a ways away though, like multiple days.
Starting point is 01:02:46 You know, projects. Never how we report on box office ever before, but in this case, for some reason. Variety can get fucked. They were the same people that put out that dumb Rachel Zegler hit piece, laying like the failures of Snow White on at her feet and being like, I think it was because she's pro-Palestinian and then she had to do her politics all out loud that Gal Gadot got death threats.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And you're like, what is the meaning of this piece at all? Like, this has nothing to do with the movie. Who, are they in the pockets of like the studios? Yeah, I mean, it's a trade. So like they all have direct sort like lines to the heads of studios that are like, we need to, you know, it's like any media really. I saw somewhere that the director gets the rights
Starting point is 01:03:31 to this film back in 25 years. Yeah, which they don't like. Yeah, so the studios want to take this down or not. Exactly. It's not just a pure win. It's just like, this could be, everyone's also spinning it as a cautionary tale. Don't give the black creator too much now.
Starting point is 01:03:49 It's interesting to compare it to once upon a time in Hollywood because, so the New York Times also claimed Sinner's success has a big asterisks, again, arguing that profitability is far away. And they also pointed out, Zach, what you were talking about, that Ryan Coogler gets to own the movie after 25 years. The New York Times said,
Starting point is 01:04:14 despite not paying for any of it, he gets to own it. He only wrote, directed, and conceived of it. What a fucking mask-off sentence. You know, he only wrote, directed and conceived of it. But he didn't. Mask off sentence, even though he didn't. He's not paying for it. Oh, I'm sorry. Mr. Kugler will then own it despite not paying for it. Wow. Let me bow and prostrate to the studio for exploiting my creativity.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Like, what are you fucking talking about? I think. But yeah. So just real quick to compare it to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, they had this same deal structure. First of all, Tarantino got ownership of that movie after a number of years. So this is not as unprecedented as people are making it seem. One made 45 million on 3,300 screens after the pandemic and Tarantino made 41 million, so less on 3,600 screens. So way more screens, which means that they had higher expectations.
Starting point is 01:05:14 And when that movie came out, everyone was like, it's a certified box office smash for Quentin Tarantino. Right. Yeah. No, no, it wasn't. I mean, I think just the other stuff you see is so many hand wring, so much hand wringing and like these other headlines, like it could be the end of the studio system.
Starting point is 01:05:33 And I mean, I think a lot of the questions around quote unquote profitability, I'm sure they have nothing to do with the fact that, again, Ryan Coogler in negotiating this deal masterfully, he also secured a first dollar gross deal, meaning he makes money, the second tickets are sold. He gets a taste of the box office, the second ticket starts selling,
Starting point is 01:05:53 as opposed to then like waiting for the studio to recoup costs and then you get a taste of those profits. Like it's- Right. They're like, oh God, this black man is getting too much now. This could be the end of the studio system. Like that is just, I feel like so obviously what all of this is about, but yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:06:11 They could be the end of the studio system and who knows if it could be profitable even though they're projecting it's gonna do 300 million when everything's said and done. Yeah, but they, I mean, Hollywood's famous for managing expectations and like lying about how much money a movie made so that they can change how much money they're actually sharing with
Starting point is 01:06:30 the artists who again made the movie, but they didn't even pay for it. Yeah. So, I mean, why should they get it? We should, we should be worshiping the people, the capital, the people who put the capital up, not these artists who didn't even pay for for it It also just reminds me of that Sony leak Right. I bring this up so often, but it's just such a Revealing email exchange where a producer was arguing that the studio shouldn't invest in Denzel Washington because black actors don't perform well overseas.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Yeah. And this was not in 1987. They were talking about a sequel to the equalizer, you know, after decades of Denzel being one of like the most sure fire movie stars. So the equalizer came out in 2014 was a massive hit. And this person was like, I just don't see it. Guys, look, Denzel is my favorite actor. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Right. He's my favorite actor, but we don't want to invest in this because, uh, you know, audiences abroad just aren't going to go see his movies. By the way, the equalizer too grossed $190 million on a $60 million budget, but they just don't want to let black artists have success because that would mean that like the system that, you know, gay makes it so that they have their jobs is, is wrong. Yeah. You know, and it's, it purely speaks to the exploitative nature of it too. Like we already don't properly compensate creators
Starting point is 01:08:09 for things and to see something, especially like if a white creator, it's one thing but if a black creator is doing it now, we're talking about quote, like the, like an existential crisis over the studio system. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, good luck with that. Good luck with that. I mean, even like in LA and stuff,
Starting point is 01:08:26 it's like if you wanted to see Sinners, like it was hard to catch like certain screenings of it. It's because people are going, like this is not some fucking flash in the pan thing. And it's also as of right now, it's like his highest rated film that he's put out. And I think a reminder- Made Creed.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Yeah, reminder to the studios, let people tell fucking original stories. They fucking people like new shit, not fucking Snow White and all this other nonsense over and over again. I mean, I just wish that Minecraft and Sinners had come out on the same day. So we could have had miners. Miners, yeah, that's good. As the Barbenheimer. Yep. So that everyone, miners would be saving the studio system
Starting point is 01:09:13 for bringing back Hollywood's SYNcrafters. That would actually, that sounds kind of hot. SYNcrafters. SYNcrafter, ooh. Cool. That sounds like the problematic optometry place you go to. Like in a Christian church? A set of Lenscrafters? Oh, you went down to Syncrafters,
Starting point is 01:09:29 did you? I can tell from those transition lenses. Transition lenses? I don't think so. You went to Syncrafters. Not on my watch. Zach Zimmerman, what a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, see you, all that good stuff? On YouTube, if you search Zach Simmerman, surprise me, you can watch my special. And I'm on Instagram and TikTok. I'm at ZZ double ZZ. That's ZZ and then the word double and then ZZ. What are the people, what can they expect from this special?
Starting point is 01:09:59 Give us a little bit. Oh, an hour of gut busting laughs, hilarity, some controversial statements. That's not true. It's pretty, pretty easy. But I talk about, I go on this little journey, figure out the definition of love because my conservative family says they love me, but they go to the ballot box and vote against my rights. I talk about romantic love, self-love, and try to figure out like a good definition for it. And I come up to one at the end, but I don't want to spoil it. It's a surprise. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Spoiler alert. It sounds like we learned something about our souls. He was your father. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying besides your own special? I'm going through Black Mirror right now and just like lapping up that new season. But the thing I wanted to highlight, James Acaster has a special called Heckler's Welcome. And I just, I saw it live two years ago
Starting point is 01:10:54 and I just screenshotted a clip and sent it to a friend where he talks about being told before a show that anxiety, being anxious and excited are the same. It's just whether you have a positive outlook or not. And he's like, we all can agree that's a lie. For 16 years, I've been backstage being like, can't wait to get out there. Shaking. So that I think that moment just I felt very seen. And so everyone should stream that special. That's good. After years. In that, concurrently.
Starting point is 01:11:26 There's actually a hidden, if you play both back words, there's a hidden message. Yep. All right. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Find me at milesofgrey.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Everywhere you find us on the basketball podcast, Miles and Jack, I'm at Boosty's. Also find me talking about 90 Day Fiance on 420 Day Fiance. A work of media I like over on BlueSki at Kenwhite.Besky.social posted, I know $3,000 seems like a lot of cash, but you never know when you need to bribe a chauffeur
Starting point is 01:11:58 to bury a pet that made you angry or tip a cop for shooting a brown person. So, it's fucking bad. Yeah, you never know, you never know. Oh man. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. I just realized that I was liking Pope tweets even before he died.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Somebody tweeted a video, "'Pope Francis surprised everyone "'by driving among cheering crowds "'on Via, uh, you know, coaching as the only on Easter Sunday. Uh, and it's a video of the Pope just driving by and an amazing Pope, all white, uh, Mercedes, uh, four by four, you know, one of those cars that look like they're hunting Jason Bourne, but it's all white. Um, and then Noah Garfunkel tweeted. he didn't surprise me because I stay fucking ready. That was before the Pope died. And then after the Pope died, Mike Bovis tweeted,
Starting point is 01:12:56 in retrospect, maybe we should have seen this coming. And he had a screen cap JD Vance full name, and it was just killed Dup Hope Vance. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at daily zeitgeist. We're at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of the episode wherever you're listening to this and you can find the footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song of the episode wherever you're listening to this and you can find the footnotes. Footnote.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? You know, I'm young, so I get all my musical suggestions from TikTok. You probably saw this video of like this like shepherd in Spain, like leading his flock down a road.
Starting point is 01:13:43 And it's like as far as the eye can see sheep. But there's a track playing in this video that's fucking so good. It's by this group called Los Jungitos. And they are like, I guess they're described as a Spanish-Romani Roomba Flamenca group. But this track kind of has like sort of funky Roomba disco-y vibes it came out like in the late 70s and the vocals like if you like Gypsy Kings
Starting point is 01:14:09 you'll definitely like this this vibe but this is a track called Como Lleguaba Brava by Los Chunguitos and it's tiny it's a it's a it brings joy it sparks joy it sparks joy so get it there is a there are versions of it on streaming by other groups the best version unfortunately I haven versions of it on streaming by other groups. The best version, unfortunately, I haven't found it on streaming so I can find it on YouTube, but there are versions of this track on streaming. But we will link off to the YouTube version in the footnote. You know who else was a shepherd with sheep as far as the eye could see?
Starting point is 01:14:38 Miles Gray. That's right. Donald Trump. All right. The Daily Zeitgeist, the production of iHeartRadio for more podcasts from iHeartRadio. Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending. And we will talk to you all then.
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