The Daily Zeitgeist - Rittenhouse 2.0, New Reality Just Dropped From Apple 05.16.23

Episode Date: May 16, 2023

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All the different levels. It is Tuesday, May 16th, 2023. You love this day. I'm telling you. Gotta love it, folks. International Day of Living Together in Peace Day. Yay. National Classic Movie Day.

National Biographers Day yeah biographers yeah national love a tree day national sea monkey day national check your wipers day check your damn wipers i just did that the other day and they were brittle stones that were merely just going to smear water across my windshield national mimosa day national piercing day national day this is like there's a ton anyway national honor our lgbt elders day national barbecue day i heard that one national do something good for your neighbors like just fucking just enjoy just check your wife that feels like it could be a uh redneck comedy tour punchline uh you might want to check your wipers. I don't know what the buildup to that is.

That's where you need ChatGPT, where you just go create a stand-up routine where the entire brand is built off this punchline. You may want to check your wipers. Also, the International Day of Peaceful Humans Living Together feels like it was written by ChatG GPT or someone who just is trying to pretend that they're human.

Yeah. But, you know, it's just urging people to live together. I think it was after, in response to World War I-I. I-I-I-I-I. That's what that World War made me say. I-I-I. Aye, aye, aye, aye, aye. Aye, aye, aye. That's what that World War made me say. Aye, aye, aye, aye. My name's Jack O'Brien, aka NBA Sad Boy. Oh, man.

My Sixers. Those dang Sixers. They did it again. Yeah. I'm not sad. I'm not going to freak out like everyone thinks. Yeah. I no longer have sadness in me to give to them. Yeah, but you knew all along.

I did. It's kind of wild. Once you get to this point with a team where you're paying a lot of attention to them, you actually know that they're going to lose. That game, the Game 7 that they lost on sunday mother's day thank you the nba was uh that game was always lost right it was it was written in stone yeah the beginning of the season your prediction was crashed out of the second round second round they have a gravitational equilibrium and it is the second round and everything else is just you know shuffling the deck but we're we're going out in the second round and we're is just, you know, shuffling the deck, but we're,

we're going out in the second round and we're not going to do it in style necessarily, but I'm excited about the rest of the playoffs without them and rooting on your Los Angeles Lakers. Oh yeah. Hey, who am I talking to? Oh,

you know, I'm thrilled to be joined by my cohost, Mr. Miles. Oh yeah. It's miles gray gray gray of the los angeles graykers aka lebron grahams aka anthony gravis aka rui hachimura's cousin i'll just say that you know shout out to black and he's god out there uh yes uh and shout out to every all the lakers fans out there and sadly the Arsenal fans because while I am a Laker fan I'm also an Arsenal supporter and we we also fucked the bed a bit this weekend losing 3-0

to Brighton and basically just kissed any chance or any hope of the Premier League trophy goodbye so in a similar way I was like I don't know if we can win it as Arsenal and they also proved me right in that sense very last time Arsenal won oh, we'd have to go back to the season of our Lord 2003-2004. All right. Yeah. So, I mean, there's some winning there, though. Yeah, I mean, luckily, I've been supporting the team since prior to that and the previous premiership that we won before that.

But, yeah, let me tell you, you jack going from 2003 to 04 to now is fucking pain rough sled ride down the hill yeah yeah but you know it is what it is but also hey i'm glad to see that tottenham won't make the champions league so hold that one yeah that's why like my main thing is just that the celdics don't win the title so anything that can be done to prevent them and that's not fair celdics fans are like gosh why are you like so mean it's because i'm a sick person and it doesn't it doesn't make sense it is not it's not the happiness lab with dr laurie santos we're not over here on some like mild-mannered well-balanced shit over here i'm a broken person anyways miles speaking of broken

persons that's not true uh speaking of one of my favorite directors yeah he's very funny podcast host and he made some of the best videos at cracked some of my favorite short comedy sketches anywhere i'm thrilled that he and tdz favorite michael swaim of uh those aren't muskets fame are teaming up to make a new film called papa bear that you can find out about contribute to we will link off to where in the footnotes but please welcome to this show the brilliant the talented abe eberson my thank you for letting me be here and, you know, sully the waters of the daily zeitgeist. I share, Jack, your pain.

Yeah? Yeah, as a Warriors fan. Oh, yeah. I'm hoping the Nuggies take it all the way. Yeah, that's my favorite part about losing is like, well, now this team is my champion. Yes now get to choose one yeah i'm so excited to be rooting for jimmy butler against the celdics the celdics fans are extremely confident which is just how jimmy butler wants them they're confident like a bunch of teenagers at camp crystal lake you know wow care in the

world and jimmy butler is just off in the quarter. A reference for the kids. Yeah, something for the kids. Heck, yeah. Exciting times. Exciting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know.

For real. It'll be an exciting summer because, yeah, you got quite the wage bill over there. Oh, yeah. The Warriors, yeah. It's going to be murder. Ja Rule just shows up as the head coach's gonna it's it's gonna be murder jaw rule just shows up as the abe we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first a couple of things that we are talking about from the news uh we're gonna talk about jordan neely and the new kyle rittenhouse the person who murdered jordan neely is now a cause celebre on the right yeah so we'll we'll just talk about

the way they're speaking about that story on the right and another opportunity to show they they actually don't know the bible they don't know he's smoking a vote but hey as a text yeah not not overly familiar no or reading comprehension leaving something to be desired a new reality just dropped reality pro i think is what they're calling it apple is expected to release some goggles in a couple week and this is like what i remember this was what it was like before the ipad came out where it was like oh shit this like what's it gonna be is it gonna be you know because the iphone was the last big thing that they had dropped their right ipad i mean that shit's gonna be like it's gonna have magic powers it's gonna be like a hoverboard that you can ride on to work and then use as a screen and yeah so people are excited about these goggles well i'm not we'll talk about it

miles but what you have to understand is oh please tell me uh i actually don't know i i don't fully get it so we'll talk about that we'll talk richie drive drive yeah dickie dry dry because he has some interesting takes all of that plenty more but first abe epperson we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history oh man i'm gonna i'm gonna reveal myself and my like weird interests i'm fascinated with subcultures right in some cases it's like the joy of seeing like go human go kind of like witnessing you know the beauty of what's out there but other times it's because I want to see what like God's up to you know like what kind of hell hath he wrought and I saw on Twitter the concept of like you know it's been around for many years the concept of like, you know, it's been around for many years, the concept of like the rise and grind bros kind of like.

Yes. Like NFT zealots who just who discuss how to reach success. And that really fascinated me, which leads me to a recent search I did maybe a week ago, which was entrepreneur TikTok compilation. Oh, no. No. So I want to see as many as possible and frankly like i love it these are people like you tell you like uh how to make like twelve thousand dollars in a month making like an amazon reseller business right or like investing in seeds or some nonsense and there's a strange kind of eerie

magnetism to them they kind of have this dreadful seriousness and like they act way too familiar with you and they play like i don't know like the soundtrack to the secret life of walter middy over it it's like frankly haunting and they all have like the same eyes like they see past you yeah and it's all arithmetic to them like these robots have one tone and it's like i'm the wisest person to walk on the earth right and i love it like the delusion the solipsistic kind of performance of it all i mean there's probably loads of wisdom than anyone puppeting you know just like goodwill or soundbite wisdom can stumble upon. But like,

frankly, you know, it's all, it's all rigged anyway. And it's like, you're not really doing anything. And I just love to see as many of those people as possible. So that's kind of like how I spend my time.

Yeah. Yeah. It's cause like, right. Like learning about how to get, how to get that Lambo. You know, that's funny, dude. funny dude hey when i look at you i don't see it in your eyes you know what i mean like i don't i can tell that you go to sleep probably like maybe seven hours a night which is basically like loser shit you know what i know like i'm up at

2 30 you know what i mean and i'm looking at the like every stock market on earth and the look that you see in my eye is actually the lambo that's about to manifest that's what you're seeing shark shaped lambo i love yeah they all just want to sell their companies too it's like and then this is how you get the valuation then you sell your company like okay sure like if that's what you think but like it's that guy it's like that guy the five-hour work week this was like the i i remember like the first example of this where it's like guy who's like i'm all about this like lifestyle and like you know how great my life yeah tim ferris and like how great my life is and like

you two can have this but then like the thing he was like doing was just like selling bullshit to people and like making other people do the work for him yeah and it was like there there's just nothing there there's he like i think no good being produced other than his five-hour work week i feel like he may have actually been the originator of like how to get to lambo culture right because i believe in the four four hour five hour work week book he talks about this is how I can have a Lamborghini. He's like, these are the payments. This is what I'm making every month.

Plus this. That's Lambo money. Boom. Problem solved. One Lambo. Boom. On to the next Lambo. Sell janky supplements online.

Yeah, that was it. Wasn't it? Yeah, it was something like supplements. That was like his early early business and then it went into like the four-hour body and then it started getting a little wacky when he's like these kettlebells can put a butt on an asian chick was like one of the thing one of the parts like was how it was written about like it's like i believe is it like a woman struggling to have a butt and he's like yeah but these kettlebell swings gave her that pop so everything i'm like i can sell you fucking anything you want a butt you want a lambo you want biceps bro it's

all here what did these guys used to be like were they in the 80s were they just all like working on wall street or were they just like local salesmen they just did cocaine sales i think the answer is spiraled out yeah right right but like what because they've replaced some job with just bull like nothing right what do they like it seems like they're all in in some version of a like multi-level marketing scheme that's exactly right i mean so what go back to 1984 and whatever was going on there you know computers are in the next thing you know what worked out for everyone like i think these like fucking gurus like you know that's the other like genre of like what this kind of person is they call themselves gurus and like they just charge you a ton of money for advice that fucking goes

nowhere they're basically i feel like the kids of people who were like whose parents were listening to like personal power in the 80s right right right you know and like early uh what's his face gigantic guy talk tony robbins yeah yeah self-help books on tape yeah like with that you're on that as a kid 18 tapes and a big like plastic container yeah like those disney like the old disney vhs because like that were like sort of semi-padded plastic cases i only know this because i remember my dad bought one and i was like what is this shit and i was like okay maybe this will save steven covey like the seven habits of highly effective people like i feel like they were all driving around in their transams listening to that shit maybe yeah reading lee iacocca right

you know but now they they're able to influence each other and uh we're just getting better and better as a society i think is the is the upshot yeah and they've stumbled upon a really yeah really intoxicating offer which is sort of like you don't have like toil in your own way to have like everything you want like don't do it how because everyone's like i don't have like toil in your own way to have like everything you want like don't do it how because everyone's like i don't want to go to a jar do this or that's like yeah do it for yourself bro and get all the things i actually don't have but i'm renting for the purpose of this tiktok video right exactly exactly they all have like one piece of good advice which is like get up and make your bed yeah it always starts it's always that's number one and people try that and

they're like i actually do feel like a little bit better when like i just kind of you know get up and engage with the take a shower and yeah engage with maybe i should give to this guy's patreon this guy seems like he might be like on some next level that was that one was for free he said for 60 bucks a week i'll become a millionaire i can't even imagine what he'd tell me. He's like, use this affiliate link to do your Amazon shopping. Abe, what's something you think is overrated? have like an axe to grind recently because i watched that movie air the michael jordan movie and i noticed that this keeps coming up like tetris blackberry uh flaming hot the doritos like flaming hot story movies that are cheetos it's cheetos you're gonna talk about it put the proper respect how dare i put some stink on this corporate nostalgia.

Yeah. And just like aggrandizing this, like the origin story of products. And there's like this bit in air where Mike, the, where they like point out that their competitor Adidas was founded by Nazi, right? Yeah. And I think that fun fun fact not against getting that info out there in general but it's like it's not that's just a good example something can be very harmful and weird to me like basically through movies and populating the zeitgeist with their

own kind of corporate agenda it's now like a movie war of attrition against each other right like they i know they do it with memes but they get like laughed at you know online when they try you know like uh hello fellow kids and stuff like that i know ads exist but we all kind of see we all like watch ads with this kind of sardonic like like blank face that we have where it's just like blank face yeah you just like yeah allow it to happen but it feels wrong in movies because they have the power to like like move people and when you stamp like a based on a true story on it like i could see this being a horrible trend did you watch air i did watch air yeah yeah i was expecting to be like swept away i had heard a lot of smart people be like swept away by and be like,

yeah, you go in thinking, why am I watching like a hero's journey about Nike? But then it like, it sweeps you away. And I just like, couldn't get past it, man.

I couldn't get past it the whole time. I was like, this is fucking crazy. This is crazy. And like when you, they like try to avoid doing it for so long, but they have to so there's only like two or three scenes but they go whole hog they just go like this is the stuff dreams

are made of you know it's just like oh my god get off your horse yeah and i think it's a really damaging thing just the idea of weaponizing like something that is a story is different than i think an ad or a meme right like it's something that can actually like trigger like yeah i'm going to go to war for these people i'm gonna go war for this idea so like i do think there's probably i i haven't seen blackberry i've heard good things about blackberry and i think like with the social network for instance like there there's probably a distinction to be made between like authorized like stories that like have the full cooperation with the people who made the thing and like things that are just based on you know i guess like that that's the distinction i've heard

people make the argument that like well well you know shakespeare wrote about kings because those were the most important people in shakespeare's time and like in our time corporations unfortunately are like the thing that is be is making all the decisions in our in people's day to day lives whether they realize it or not so might as well tell stories about that but if if you're telling like a true warts and all story about like big shit like the way succession is telling the story about like about the murdochs and like what happens behind the scenes at a fox news type thing like that's i think there's a value there as opposed to you know something that is propaganda that is using the like core corporate principles of nike

as like interstitials like throughout the movie like you are correct like shakespeare was dunking on fools you know yeah yeah shakespeare was dunking on fools man and that's bringing it bringing the heat to the third sadly from what i've read the hot cheetos movie doesn't is kind of continuing that because there's like a whole scene where they're talking about the how the creator of pringles was like a card carrying KKK guy or something yeah so yeah there you go yeah it could be though I don't know and then you're out there looking like a mustache bro you think he wasn't you know what the you know what the original Pringles can guy looked like the mustache was about this wide. It was a toothbrush.

He wasn't a chaplain fan. Let's put it that way. That's all I'm going to say. Not a fan of the cinema. Unless it was by Lenny Riefenstahl. You see where I'm getting at? See what I'm saying? I actually saw a Shakespeare

play once. Not one of the ones that's widely taught, but it was one of the ones that's widely taught but it was one of the ones that was written i think it was about like the the birth of queen elizabeth like happens during the course of the play and it does like kind of go soft and weird like in the third act as it like starts getting it like it it feels like a play where you can like see this tension at work in in his work like the closer like when he's writing about like long dead you know kings he can tell the truth they're like portray them as like interesting characters but like when it's the actual king

who's still alive he's like and long live the queen like there's a part at the end of the play where everyone's just like and but she is pretty dope and we're all good here right i like the idea of the queen's thugs like showing up on shakespeare's door and like we heard you writing something about the queen huh how about you make it a little bit more flattering. We'd mess your nose up real nice. Make it nice. Yeah. Or else we reveal your true identity. We got some notes. Is this even iambic potamina? Are you even writing the way we know you write?

Yeah. What is something that you think is underrated, Abe? Okay. So I've been having this phase. The short answer is rain hats. I don't even know if that's what you call them. Whatever you call hats for rainy days, like rubber hats, like fishing hats. They're functional, right?

I live in LA, so I don't need rain hats, but we did have a lot of rain recently, and I wanted a hat. So I bought a hat, and I was in a store, and I was looking at all these beautiful rain hats but we did have a lot of rain recently and i wanted a hat so i bought a hat and i was in a store and i was looking at all these beautiful rain hats and uh they appear and i thought about it and they appear every now and then in like high fashion like uh the you know especially with like the rubber variety like you got bright colors and like you had like mod art in like the 60s and they've like looked the same since then and like they reappeared in the 80s when like that whole pop art thing was happening bjork wore one in that one video i'm thinking of yeah and i i don't know i love it when function and style or function like is style and oh okay miles and frankly miles just put on his rain hat i did the same thing i'm like

oh rain for two days i need a rain hat i need a rain hat and frankly i'm tired of this baseball hat hegemony you know i mean fantastic hat top tier hat but let rain hat have it stay in the sun yeah that's what i'm saying 360 coverage yeah and. And also, I'm trying to fuck with a neck saver flap, too. Oh. You know what I mean? Back of the neck? Oh, that sun, if you're really out there, I'm like, you got to learn from the people

whose business it is to be in the sun all day. Like, that shit, your neck is, like, beautiful. Yeah, you can't let that expose. I always forget to get the back of my neck with any kind of protection, and that's usually, like, the first spot I end up being burned, so burned so yeah and by people whose job it is to be in the sun all day you mean australians yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's who i associate the like long neck flap is like that hat i'm always like what are we in australia hey hey jackass what are we down under

what are we, down under? What are we, down under here? Yeah, shout out to a nice bucket hat. Something that I could never pull off. But when it's raining, Jack, you can. It's functional. No one's ever going to be like, what are you doing, asshole? Is it raining? You're like, yeah, it is.

Everyone's on team rain hat on a rainy day. Yeah, team rain hat. Nice rain hat. Hey, yeah, you know, we've got to on a rainy day. Yeah. Team Rain Hat. Nice rain hat. Hey. Yeah. You know, we got to start a revolution in this country. You know, I know we have other pressing issues, but like rain hats. Why are they called rain hat? Like rain hat should be a phrase that doesn't sound so weird in my mouth.

You know? Yeah. You're right about that. It's also the term that I made up. Question mark. Yeah. It's good though. I don't know how to say it. I know yeah you're right about that it's also the term that i'm made up question mark yeah it's just types of hats there's rain boots yeah exactly but uh yeah it does sound weird you're not wrong about that rain gloves i guess we don't have those my rain socks uh let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk some news. We'll be right back.

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so first of all, you told me Gorp Core, which is not the world according to Gorp. No, no, no. It's like trail mix. You know, Gorp for all the people you know, your. No, no, no. It's like hiking gear and shit. Okay, you know, Gorp, for all the people, you know, your crunchy hiker style, but basically how that, you know,

this like sort of more utilitarian, functional fabrics and garments are starting to make their way into like high fashion. Like that's why you see people wearing more, again, like cargo pants, you know. And you're buying more, so you are wearing cargo pants these days. I mean, yes, usually.

I have a pair right now I have to take back because they don't fit. Here's a pair I got. Okay. They're white because I wanted to feel like I'm in Miami. You know what I mean? Yeah. They're like my formal fancy white cargo pants, but they're too small. Okay, J-Lo.

Yeah, you know. You never know. You never know. Those are fresh. Those are fresh. And I wear a little crop top and let my underwear band show out the top. You know what I mean? It's 98, baby.

98 again. Wear my Tommy Hill figures. Let's get that Backstreet Boys running. Yeah. Looking like Aaliyah, you know? Yeah. I tried on a pair of cargo pants that I thought looked cool. Took a picture.

Sent it to my wife. Was like, are cargo pants coming back? She was like, just a one word no, period. Oh, no. See, that's the wrong question. You're thinking about it wrong. No, no, no. It's back if you're doing it.

Yeah. What I meant was, are cargo pants coming back into our life as a couple? There you go. She's like, I spent many years trying to get you to stop wearing them. If you recall early on, we're not going to, but you can fit three natty lights in each pocket.

Paul cans, even all right. Jordan Neely was murdered. So that's the first line. Remind everybody that. Yes. He was an unhoused man who was bothering people in the subway and a former marine came up and choked him to death and so that that marine is was was

finally arrested after a long period of the police not doing anything and giving him the benefit of the doubt and a lot of people behind the scenes being like they're treating him like he's a cop like he's also a cop they finally arrested him and that has turned this guy into like the new kyle rittenhouse it seems 100 i mean sadly because of jordan neely's race and you know where he was in our social class system he was expendable and basically his entire life was reduced to the description now that we see a lot of like hostile homeless man or aggressive unhit whatever they're trying to do to make him seem other than who he was they're not saying he's a quote human being that has been failed by this country like millions of others he's not a, quote,

charismatic performer who brought smiles to people's faces. No, his existence basically served as a reminder to those more fortunate around him that the world they lived in was hostile and violent, and they really wanted nothing to do with that uncomfortable truth. And that discomfort around knowing that we are failing and we can do so much better was justification for his death. And nothing changes in this country, really. Just the way we talk about the problems change at best. The discourse isn't about how we failed to address inequality or how, you know, the all the social safety nets and like social programs in New York and housing programs have been just obliterated by the mayor.

programs in New York and housing programs have been just obliterated by the mayor. No, it's about the murder service as a Marine or Neely's rap sheet and how like or just completely slandering him and making things up like about like kidnapping someone, which there's no evidence to support these claims, but they're they're flaring up all on the right side of things. It's the standard bullshit. Any time any black man is murdered the the media especially on the right goes into overdrive to yeah or on or even find the pictures that show them the version that they want that their their viewers want to see yeah or in the center left i mean just the

status quo like yeah i mean he was you know he was homeless and he was weird so right you know what like that's kind of like it's like shrugging the equivalent of shrugging but yeah like you said he's now been charged with secondary manslaughter and he's a fucking here his lawyers set up a fucking crowdfunding campaign they've already raised two million dollars for this fucking guy and donations are coming in from people like kid rock like tim pool and uh gop presidential hopeful vivek ramaswamy like to given tens of thousands of dollars they're calling this man a hero and some people are calling him the subway good samaritan because he i'm i'm sorry i don't i don't need to get biblical up in here but

do these fucking troglodytes even know what the fucking parable is about because let me just i'll run it down because I was inundated with this kind of shit when I went to school, even though I'm not a religious person. A Jewish man gets beat up and robbed and left for dead on the side of the road. His own people walk by him and could give a fuck about his condition because they are like grossed out he looks like dirty and like hurt and they're like i don't want to think about that like that's the thing like stories like this get like broken down to like three beat cartoons where you're just like and then the evil people walked by and it's like no this is the sort of shit that you do every day that we do every day in this country. And like you ignore it because it reveals something uncomfortable about your world and like the shit that we swallow on a daily basis just to get from one minute to the next. Right. And then the Samaritan who comes by just for context, the Jews and Samaritans had fucking beef during this period.

OK, and Samaritans are the more oppressed group, actually. So this Samaritan stopped by and helped someone that was not only in like a higher class, so to speak, but also his enemy culturally. Right. And help them. So the only way Neely's killer is a good Samaritan is if the parable was about the Samaritan killing this dude on the side of the road because he was getting weirded out by how fucked up and desperate he was. And he killed him so other people wouldn't have to deal with it. Yeah. But that's not what it's about. He doesn't have to deal with the discomfort of him asking them for help. Right.

Because that's his crime, right? He was saying, I need food. I need shelter. I have no options. I don't care if I die. I don't care if I go to jail for life. I'm ready to die. That was like one of the things he said.

And the violence that he committed was what? Taking his jacket off and throwing it on the ground? Yeah. And so who are we helping here? You know what I mean? Because if it were true to the idea or the spirit of this parable, maybe this person would have saw Jordan Neely and said, hey, it sounds like you need some help. Can I help you? Like, do you need some food? Can I, is there a way for me to do that? That's, that would actually be more, you know, in line with the Bible. But again, the right has done a fantastic job of like sanctifying white supremacy

and the status quo, like using bullshit terms and like evoking the Bible like this. So, and sadly in this weird retelling of it, I guess the person that needed help, uh, was just the status quo, you know, Neely wasn't armed. Like, I don't,

I don't know who the, so the victim was the ground. I don't know who he's, who is committing violence against, but again, jacket. And they don't like when you commit property crimes. Yeah.

You know, I mean, so I guess in this case, the status quo is to just ignore or treat the needy or treating the needy with suspicion. And so he did just that, and now he's a hero. And just to kind of juxtapose these two things, there is a crowdfunding, there's a GoFundMe fundraising campaign for Jordan Neely's family. It has less than $130,000. And the other guy, the one for the fucking guy who murdered him has two million dollars two million two million and i mean it just shows you like where again

like when these campaigns kick off like where the empathy is going clearly because again for the right this is like the new kyle rittenhouse because we're with kyle rittenhouse gave everybody the sort of ability to be like well they shouldn't be protesting out there you know yeah yeah against like you know against uh the police violence or whatever that's what you get now it's sort of like well you shouldn't be homeless in public yeah and freaking people out because that's where you could end up yeah it's like um empathy for rage is a real blight the concept of like they're they're feeling empathetic towards a person this hero because it's a placeholder for everything that the right wants to point out this is what you're angry about this is what do you have these you know preconditions or thoughts that are like you

think this about the universe isn't that doesn't that make you angry that this person or this person gets this or this or this or acts this way and can get away with it or whatever and they like use that as a way to rage bait everyone into feeling empathy it's like what what a hack like what uh i can't believe that humans fall for this shit and it it really sours you on any hope that empathy will like take over but ultimately it's just this narrative building that like they're just playing they're just playing the numbers and just trying to get what they want because they know there's an audience for it you can tell that that's true just because like these, these people are called a hero before,

you know, or, uh, they're, they're called a victim or they're called, you know, like a monster before they're, uh,

any number of these people, you know, on either side, they're called these things because before there's even a check on who this person was, why? Because if it's a narrative for, you know,

the right to say, this is what happened this is this is a way to get get my people to get angry and that's just i i don't know i just don't know how that's any way to there's a lot of pain here there's just too much pain when it yeah and it just sort of furthers how quickly things can escalate to violence right where it's just like the shorthand for this is like you know know, in Kyle Rittenhouse's case, it's like, yeah, I don't know. You want to step up and speak out against something?

Like, you're going to get hurt. Yeah. Like, that's how those people think. Well, what did you expect being out there against? They're going to shoot you in the eye. And that's not their fault. Why are you out there? Or in this case,

well, you know what happens? You're acting weird in public because you have no other recourse except to disintegrate in public because you have no place to give no help. Oh, yeah, that's what happens. like of the consequences of the current paradigm of like, you know, late stage capitalism become like more and more obvious, like people,

like I said, I think the empathy for impotent rage, like everybody is feeling impotent rage. It's just whether they know what they should be angry at and about. they know what they should be angry at and about and so it makes sense to me that the target of the rage for a lot of people is going to be people who either by existing or by protesting by saying things call out the things that you are having to ignore and like just filter away through dissonance and transference and like other like just mental calorie burning like ignorance that like the people who are reminders of that process that's happening in almost everyone in in the western

world those people will be targets because yeah, that everyone's feeling like a simmering impotent rage and there's, you know, rat rather than re realizing and like doing something that could harm their day-to-day lives. They, they would rather just kind of be part of the, yeah.

Just part of the, please just get rid of any reminder of it yeah i don't want to hear about racism so don't fucking teach my kids about it because i don't want to hear it about about it anymore like and the same thing with people who are so uncomfortable by the unhousing it's happened so much in la especially the way people talk is so fucking disturbing of just like i mean i don't know why they have to be here yes like why do they have to be there what i don't even know what what give me some context what do you think is happening with this person that they like that again well that their mere existence is so

uncomfortable for you that the solution is i don't please just round them up sweep them away i cannot be reminded of this and And it's just really, yeah, it's disheartening because yeah, some people, when that fork comes in the road, they know, you know what? I can only imagine what it takes to end up like that. A few, few things go wrong in your life and very quickly you could end up on the streets. I know, like, if that's real to you, then you might have more empathy because you can understand how someone like that exists. But if you are completely removed for that or don't want to even you know it's because it's probably frightening to someone to be like holy shit i could fuck a few wrong things a few things could go wrong in my life and i could end up on the street that's fucking terrifying you know what i don't want to think

about that get this motherfucker who's the reminder of that grim reality out of my face yeah yeah because people don't see people as people but rather as landscapes a part of the setting a prop you know it's like the second you start doing that and you're saying like oh i only feel the effects of you as a person i don't actually see you as a person it's so easy to go down like a yeah i assume it's so easy to go down this like rabbit hole of you know i don't i don't believe that anyone other than me and the people who look like me uh are justifiable in any of our actions these people need to be gone or whatever i don't i just don't see how that logic computes yeah well let's take a quick break we're going to come back and talk about a product that's going to help us put the blinders on.

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puts all of the information that you typically use your iphone for puts it right in front of your eyes basically like gives you augmented reality terminator vision and like how does it do that by like adding things to like glasses no No, it actually like the goggles are opaque, like a VR headset, but they have cameras. So it's like, have you ever been in like a car with one of those rear view mirror cameras? Yeah. Like the rear view mirror is replaced by like a little TV. Oh, the rear view mirror is like a screen, you mean? Yeah, the rear view mirror is a screen screen you mean yeah the rear view mirror is

i know i've seen that but i haven't i haven't actually driven one but you know i know what you're talking about yeah yeah like that's it feels like it's that but for all reality you just have turn your eyes into a screen yes yeah i want them also to like cover your ears and then have speakers in them you know yeah right gloves gloves that like are haptic feedback so let's just like eliminate all the senses and replace it with like a surrogate drone right that's what i'm all about yeah and then like put the different so like people are saying like the the problem with this being revolutionary is like one it costs three thousand dollars which is well above the price point of everything else but i

guess that hasn't stopped apple in the past i love a consumer purchase that makes you the easiest target for robbery i know simultaneously you know what i mean that is like oh he got that 3k heads i'm like a 3k headset watch i'll sneak up behind you and just yoink that and i don't even need to sneak just walk up and punch him in the stomach and grab their glasses or there's a delay even if you're coming from the front oh the delay the delay the late off by half a second oh shit but it's man so like the thing with vr is that people are like it just they haven't created their killer app yet like there's just it's just for gamers it's like a fun thing to play video games with but like in terms of wider adoption it just hasn't like broken

through right and i don't expect apple to be the place that like figures that out. Right. But the augmented reality like like one of the images from the Daily Mail article about this is like, you know, showing how walking directions could be displayed on a screen in front of you. a screen in front of you yeah oh like google maps kind of like yeah in a few in a few meters you're going to turn right here at this hour right kind of thing and with like facial recognition technology like i could see a world where like now you have a database of everyone you've ever met and like can have context for that displayed on a heads-up display in front of you like i think there is something like the future is going to involve somebody somehow inventing new senses for people that like we can add to our existing senses and like new inputs for like all the amazing like capabilities you can have via technology but i just i don't know maybe this is it you definitely look stupid wearing them and look like the biggest target on the planet for robbery or whatever like you're just walking around with a blank thing on your head like

right with no peripheral vision right although like that like maybe it gives you eyes and back your head like maybe it gives you extra good peripheral vision for what yeah i mean to your point like it's not offering anything anyone fucking needs right now oh if you have an apple watch it'll that shit'll start but if you need to like walk somewhere like hey turn right here right here right here right here right here right here right here i don't need to walk somewhere, like, hey, turn right here, right here, right here, right here, right here, right here, right here. I don't need to see a dotted line to where I'm going down the street to be able to make sense of that. I have the ability to do that, or I don't need to know what time it is in the upper right-hand corner of my vision. where it has all this interesting data that maybe is useful to someone in the future where it can like you know aggregate all this stuff together in your field of vision like that's probably more useful when it's something like a contact lens you put in over your eye then full-on like put this mask on where i'm like sort of like losing all sense of direction or maybe not i don't know

that's why you have a headset because it gives me like direction with the iphone with ipad or ipod it was like very obvious like what like the thing they were creating was just a much better version of something that was like having all the internet in your pocket was an amazing innovation like we didn't have to think up why that would be amazing for them whereas this is like it just feels like you're having to do too much work for them to come up with. I don't think of Apple as the place that's going to, maybe after decades of development, then things will start to become evident where this will be useful. like things will start to become evident where where this will be useful but my favorite thing about augmented reality is that especially if it's in the hands of corporations like you know apple it's so easy to like there's they're doing so much work on like you know facial recognition and all the stuff that's like a lot harder to kind of program but it's so easy to just like see, oh, there's an empty space, a wall there. You know what that wall needs? Just an ad for Apple products, baby. Just a world of ads is

what we're going to be stepping into. Because it's a corporate thinking, right? How are they going to make their money back if they're selling it at $2,000, $3,000? They got to make their money back somehow. and that's gonna create the true dystopian nightmare yeah right it'll be like just overlay it on like objects too that it doesn't think you're interacting with it's like i got hit by a i think the latest marvel film in a poster but driving i the goggles completely obscured it because they just layered an ad over that moving vehicle. Help, I can't see my wife.

Have you thought about taking the goggles off? No! No! They stay on. Exactly. All right, let's talk about Richard Dreyfuss. Abe, I don't know. Is this your king, Jack?

This is a segment of the show, Dreyus talk that we have uh most mondays we just check in with richard dreyfus see what he's what's the fuss with dreyfus yeah we covered the his last talk with bill maher it was really great in the last installment of this they had a really riveting conversation uh but this time he's made his way over to the firing line to talk about just all this dang inclusion going on in Hollywood. And he's asked a question, old Dickie Dry Dry saying, hey, you know, have have diversity measures gone too far? You know, like they're talking about and the host brings up like the Academy. They're changing its rules for 2025 awards that are you know again meant to encourage more diversity inclusion if you were trying to get a

best picture film then like maybe let's do more than like what we're doing so having like at least one lead character in the movie from an underrepresented racial or ethnic group or have 30 of the general ensemble cast be from at least two, uh, unrepresented groups or have the film's focus be about a group or like even with the crew, like the people that you hire, you know, like you can still have a very maybe white movie, but maybe have more women and, you know, people of color, LGBTQ, whatever people working on the set. So then that's your way in. So Richard Dreyfuss has a very interesting take on it. And we'll, we it. And we'll just let him speak for himself. He's asked very, like, you know, the host, you know, talks about these new efforts the Academy is making. And just, Richard, what's your take on this? Let's hear from Richard himself. They make me vomit.

Oh, let me just actually give you the full context. Just actually give you the full context. From underrepresented racial and ethnic groups, what do you think of these new inclusion standards for films? They make me vomit. Why? This is on Blaze News, by the way. Because this is an art form.

It's also a form of commerce, and it makes money. But it's an art. And no one should be telling me as an artist that I have to give in to the latest, most current idea of what morality is. Hmm. Okay. So here's the thing you guys are missing, though. We solved racism in 1998

with Krippendorf's tribe. Gagabundo, I believe, was the tagline he said when he was about to have sex with Jenna Elfman. I remember the film well. No more introspection needed.

I don't know why I know that film so well. I think because it was so fucked up. Like when I was like, oh, this could be interesting. Like, oh, this is so backwards and fucked up. Like, holy shit. But yeah, also commerce. But let's allow him to go on because he does raise some interesting... By the way, I do love just his reduction of diversity and truth and storytelling through like actually giving alternate points of view involvement in the industry as being like he dismisses it as like the latest fad in morality.

Right, right, right. This is where this is where he really brings it home and i think this is where i have to agree with him like for all the nonsense racist talk of earlier just you know i'm just leave me alone i'm a boomer actor uh i think i think he really makes a really good case with this next talking point and by that i mean he digs even fucking deeper let's go deep and'm sorry, I don't think that there's a minority or a majority in the country that has to be catered to like that. You know, Laurence Olivier was the last white actor to play Othello. In blackface. And he did it in 1965. In blackface.

And he did it in blackface. Oh. And he played a black man brilliantly. Am I being told that I will never have a chance to play a black man? Is someone else being told that if they're not Jewish they shouldn't play the Merchant of Venice are we crazy are we

crazy the entitlement already is this like his perspective is you're telling me I can't put on blackface if I want to oh no no no I want to. Oh, no, no, no. Art.

I went to a costume party with a guy in the 80s. And he went as Michael Jackson. And it brought the house down. And you're telling me that that wasn't funny he also has his glasses like all the way at the end of his nose like it's so precariously there it's just it's an interesting vibe it's grandpa tone oh yeah oh yeah he's also exactly like has there ever been an actor who like portrayed just like such like he not not only does he seem uncool but he also seems like an asshole and like just like this is exactly what i would expect from him he's that's it's like what about bob feels like a documentary yeah

yeah but it's like like like look at like spielberg knew this immediately about the guy like he he cast him in like close encounters he's like i need a man child like i need someone who would just get rid of their family because they have an idea you know like this is the kind of guy this kind of vibes he sends right but he had that song in his head so bad so bad also our writer jam pointed out that on twitter he's been corrected patrick stewart actually played othello in 1997 in a production in a production with reverse casting where he was the only white person in the cast and everyone else was black right so he could still maintain like the sort of the overall tension of othello of someone who is yeah out group maybe say something interesting without without blackface without blackface yeah

yeah but are you telling me it's just like the way he says it you're like shut up richard dreyfus you're freaking her i'm gonna vomit it makes me want to vomit. Okay? I do think we need to add the it makes me want to vomit. Sound drop. Soundboard. That just feels like he said that to me. Make me vomit.

It really does have shock jock energy. They make me vomit. Okay. They make me vomit okay they make me vomit but so uh great defender of uh the status quo and and obviously i mean why didn't he bring up uh robert downey jr's seminal role in tropic thunder i mean wow you're you're i have you richard dreyfus really isn't even up on all the modern blackface You know Jimmy Kimmel as Carl Malone

That's right Some of the greatest performances we've ever seen From fucking idiots Shockingly recently Yeah Are you telling me That I would not be able to play Draymond Green If I wanted to

In his biopic? No. I reject that notion. I'm an artist. I can kick with the best of them. Yes. This wokeness is a problem that you're going to ignore until it swims up and bites you on the ass. Or I die.

Or I just die and go away stop being so fussy fussy old dick that's what i drive yeah he is dry wow yeah he doesn't seem like he's yeah he seems dusty and ain't pretty dusty doesn't seem like he's seen a lot of moisture in his day. Yeah, like when he talks, it's like when you eat a bunch of saltines, and just the dust comes, because your mouth can't absorb it. It's like...

Yeah, he's part mummy. Yeah. He's doing the gradual, natural mummification process. Yeah. But hey, shout out to art, though. Also, watching the... I was looking at Olivier as Othello. Oh, my God to art, though. Also, watching the... I was looking at, like, Olivier as Othello.

My God, y'all. It ain't. It's not that. Brilliantly! It's, like, mid. Like, so many people have done Othello really well. It's pretty mid. Oh, it's mid as fuck. And then you just can't get past the black... It's, like,

so bad. You're like, I'm sorry, what the fuck? Yeah, that's mid as fuck. And then you just can't get past the black. It's like so bad. You're like, I'm sorry. What the fuck? Yeah, that's also to me. Now, General, no more of that. So has set me on the rack. I'm sorry. It looks like a fucking.

How about this right here? Oh, my God god Farewell content Oh it's straight up Like the It's like shoe grease It's like black Oh yeah it ain't like here's a skin tone Right

How about we take a bunch of lead pencil shavings And use that as your foundation? Yeah, it's like the shit from Al Jolson. It looks like that. Oh, yeah. It's black face, darling. Darling. And I will have you know, farewell, you doomed troops and the big wars that make ambition virtue.

Yes. Amazing. Makes me vomit. Yeah. Makes me vomit. It makes me vomit. The Nets could go 0 for 82 and I'm smiling at you like that shit's gravy.

Because me and my nice fellows in Paris Okay, I couldn't go that far. Sir Lawrence of Olivier. Well, Abe, such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, find out more about your movie, all that good stuff?

Yeah. If you don't mind, I just want to talk about, you know, the movie a little bit. Yeah, probably. Yeah, yeah. Because that's like where people can find me and stuff. But yeah, like he said, my name is Abe Epperson. My writing partner is Michael Swain, who I believe is on tomorrow. And we're making an independent film.

And it's based on the time that Michael's father came out as a gay furry while he was a teenager. While Michael was a teenager. When Michael was a teenager, semi-autobiographical. Yeah. And if you don't know, the term furry describes a community of fans, like artists, gamers, et cetera, of anthropomorphized animals. Often they create what's called a fursona, which is an avatar or an identity that represents their true self.

And it's a community that has been like bullied by the online zeitgeist, more or less, portrayals in media and such. And we thought humans could be better so we decided to write a coming-of-age comedy drama that deals with like family subculture sexuality and if you've heard of our stuff at cracked or small beans or way back in the day at those aren't muskets we've been working with each other for like you know 15 years at this point and uh you'd be interested in the fact that we're producing this as a feature independently and you can help.

So if you go to seedandspark.com slash fund slash papa hyphen bear, hopefully that will be in the show notes. You can become a part of the movie, get stuff from the movie, watch the movie early, go to a premiere. So, yeah, visit the page and help us out. We really are trying it we're trying to make a movie and hope you agree that this is like a story worth telling that's kind of it that's my plug for papa bear yeah i'm so excited for it everybody should go check out the page do you guys like link off to any of the old stuff that you directed at crack like there's so much good shit that i feel like it's lost in the like cracked we do have kind of landing uh youtube video when you go to that link where it's kind of has some eclipse show yeah yeah other than that

yeah there's so much stuff we made like 500 sketches just yeah and i wasn't even the only one director correct you know so yeah it's amazing it's it was crazy how much we put out yeah amazing well go check it out we'll link off to it in the footnotes no abe is there a work of media that you've been enjoying a work of media uh can be a tweet yeah yeah yeah there's there's a video i saw it on twitter account called no context humans which is just like an aggregator of random images and videos from the internet and so it's just this like minute long video this guy has like a mini like i guess like a foot long wheel of fortune wheel with like a dollar amounts on it you know and he approaches a woman

he's like do you want twenty dollars or do you want a chance to win a thousand dollars by spinning this wheel she's like spin the wheel and does and then the rest of the minute long video is just the wheel spinning and then it spins and it spins and then it starts to slow down and then it starts to speed up and then it picks up so much momentum that you think the thing is going to break and she's just sitting there looking at it while he's like yeah it's still going it's one of the dumbest like most simple-minded mischievous things to do like and it's like kind of like a parody of like those prank videos what a waste of everyone's time yeah so i don't know i could i could send you the link to the

video but honestly it's just enjoyable to know that there's people out there doing nonsense like that complete dumb nonsense that's probably last time i laughed really really hard at something that the internet dropped at my doorstep yeah miles where can people find you is there work media you've been enjoying uh find me on at symbol based websites at miles of gray chances i'm there and somewhat posting every now and then uh you can also find me and jack on our basketball podcast miles and jack got mad uh and what else 420 day fiance with sophie alexandro we talk about reality shit you know just getting in there um some tweet i don't really there's one tweet i liked uh just because it was raising an interesting point at somebody who was just in a hotel recently and

they're like and if you'd like you know housekeeping it can be deferred blah blah blah um this is a tweet from at blue steel dc tweeted sharing an important message from the hotel workers unions. Don't defer daily cleaning when staying in a hotel. Basically because it has a terrible impact on the people that actually do the jobs because it allows them to cut back and they do this thing of like, you know, for COVID reasons,

but really it could, you know, has the impact of like reducing the workforce by like 39% in some instances. And when you don't, when you have like deferred housekeeping, the people who have to clean up the rooms typically walk into rooms that are way more fucked up if they had been like lightly taken care of like every day, but they're still have the same amount of time to turn over a room, which makes their jobs much harder. So just something to

note as we're, you know, we enter this new era of like things that are changing since the pandemic began. But, yeah, don't do away with those deferred things, please. Yeah. All right. Tweet I've been enjoying. So Noah Garfinkel responded. So Bryant Stelter reported from CNN after the Trump thing. Quote from from I guess it's the new head of cnn you do not have to like the former president's answers but you can't say that we didn't get them caitlin pressed him again and again and made news made a lot of news and that is our job and no garfunkel quoted that and said doctor i made a lot of cancer. That is my job.

And then PJ Evans continued his string of great tweets about Walgreens and CVS. He said, At Walgreens, I'm getting major CVS vibes from this place. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find me on Twitter at

Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. What was a song

that we think you might enjoy? Miles, what's a song that we think people might enjoy? what's the song that we think people might enjoy the weather has been heating up in la thank god although i do try to wear my rain hat in the 85 degree heat it's not a great combination but in the heat i like on the inside of that hat yeah no it's like more of like a sauna on the inside of that sound off and my head looks like a like a thumb that's been in like a bathtub for too long it looks like shane baddie's the inside of that sound and my head looks like a like a thumb that's been in like a bathtub for too long it looks like shane baddie's the top of head uh for those that can understand that reference um but yeah uh this is a track by uh this artist manzanita who is like a peruvian

cumbia artist from like the 60s and like kind of the psychedelic wave of cumbia that was happening in peru uh and this is a very dope track it's called and Andino, A-N-D-I-N-O. And the full artist name is Manzanita y su Conjunto. And it's just great. It's like great music when you're outside because it makes you want to like have your shoulders just kind of bouncing as you walk around. I don't know how else to describe it,

but it's just great atmospheric music for when the weather's warm. And cumbia in general is fantastic. So check this out. This is Manzanita with Andino. All right. Well, we'll link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast,

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