The Daily Zeitgeist - RNCircus, Fallwell All Well? 8.26.20

Episode Date: August 26, 2020

In episode 702, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Grown Local podcast co-host Billy Wayne Davis to discuss the RNC speeches, Jerry Falwell Jr. and his wife's affair with a business partner, an...d more!FOOTNOTES: WATCH: Kimberly Guilfoyleā€™s full speech at the Republican National Convention | 2020 RNC Night 1 St. Louis Couple Who Aimed AR-15 at Black Protestors Stir Fear at RNC With Bleak Picture of America Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz uses RNC speech to spread conspiracies and claim Democrats will 'disarm you, empty the prisons, lock you in your home, and invite MS-13 to live next door' Melania Trump aims RNC speech at erasing memories of 2016 Business partner of Falwells says affair with evangelical power couple spanned seven years Jerry Falwell Jr. And A Young Pool Attendant Launched A Business That Sparked A Bitter Dispute Exclusive: Trump fixer Cohen says he helped Falwell handle racy photos Exclusive: Falwell steered Liberty University land deal benefiting his personal trainer WATCH: King Princess - Hit the Back (Official Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:26 Is he back from his vacation or is he still? Yeah, he's back. It's Wednesday, August 26, 2020. Happy birthday to my big sister, Shannon O'Brien. Big ups. Coolest person I know. Best mother. One of the best mothers I know.
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Starting point is 00:03:00 stay away from my thighs and keep your hands to yourself. That is courtesy of Johnny Davis. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I once had butt, but it was mustache. Soon turned out I had a bag of grass. Seemed like the real thing, only to see.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Oregano looks just like weed. Okay, thank you to Hannah Soltis, the AKA, just goddess from on high with that blondie heart of glass, AKA. Shout out to all the fools out there who bought a bag of oregano for a lot of money. Or if you're in Europe and they sell you some other branched vegetation, please, you know, be cautious out there. Why is oregano not common in Europe? I mean, I've heard, I remember like when my friends were abroad
Starting point is 00:03:55 and they're like, we were in Prague and like we thought we got weed and it was a pine branch. I was like, what the fuck? I'm like, see, this is why I got to go out there with you guys. You're not going to be buying fucking fake weed from people off the street. I bought so much oregano that I ended up getting hooked on oregano. I had an oregano problem for a while. That's just healthy, though.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Yeah, it just lowered my cholesterol, actually. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the faces on Mount Zyte Moor. He is the hilarious, the talented Mr. Billy Wayne Davis! He's shooting guns in the air. Six should not be good for your house. How's it going, man? There's already holes.
Starting point is 00:04:42 That's how I practice. Nice. What's good, man? How are man? There's already holes. That's how I practice. Nice. Uh, what's good, man? How are you? Everything's all right. I mean, it's not all right, but it is. Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Yeah, everything is. What's a small victory you had recently? I'm in good shape. Okay. Physically. Hey, look at you. You also got a mustache going a little bit? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yeah, I don't know if that's a victory. I don't know if that's for winning. I'm definitely seeing what baseball playing Billy Wayne Davis looks like when you have that mustache. Oh, man, I couldn't grow shit when I was playing ball, so it was mostly I would just grow my hair out when I could, and then I would shave it, and that would be the change. Got it. And then people are like, and that would be the change. Got it.
Starting point is 00:05:25 And then people are like, oh, he's crazy. Look at him. He's a real card, that one. How's the baby? Everything good? Yeah, everything's good. Yeah, it's weird. Do you know what I mean? And we're like
Starting point is 00:05:41 trying to figure everything out, but I miss touring, not even the performing. I don't, that's the thing I've realized. Like, I don't have to be on zooms and doing shit like that to be like, Hey,
Starting point is 00:05:56 I tell jokes and look at me. Like that's been a very relieving part of this for me. It was like, Oh, I don't have to do that part. I can write or be on podcast or do whatever and get that but like the traveling part like i really meant like that's part of me that i didn't realize like oh i have to go be moving yeah is it like the like because you feel sort
Starting point is 00:06:20 of constrained or it's more like the stimulation of traveling is what you miss yeah it's not constrained i like it being at home i have like that's what that was never a problem even before quarantine my wife would have to be like hey you need to leave the house right i got my little room i'm good yeah right right got all my stuff getting that getting on a plane new places the air smells different eat something yeah and then people it's just a nice reminder first of all it makes things real they i they went we went to for the grown local podcast my cannabis podcast we just went to humboldt for three or four days we took a lot of precautions but it it helps it's tough to get there so even the virus was like ah there's a couple of us up there but we don't like to talk about it yeah we don't like them that bad
Starting point is 00:07:12 but like even being up there it was just like my friend had never our one of our producers had never been up there and he just kept going like it's magical and i was like well keep in mind it's just mostly trees so you're getting like a ton of oxygen for the first time so you feel right yeah it is magical but that's that that other feeling that you have is just like you're breathing what you're supposed to be breathing yeah just pure gen dude oxygen the bar is so low man the bar is so low well then like i got a test as soon as I came back and because you come back to LA and immediately you're like you're stopped up and your head kind of hurts and you're just kind of like oh this is do I oh I don't have it this is just what breathing is okay right right
Starting point is 00:07:58 all right man we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to check in with the RNC, which is wild. It is wow. From a distance. We're not getting close. That's right. Yeah, just a quick drive.
Starting point is 00:08:18 From a hill, we're going to look down and see what they're doing. Exactly. Someone smuggled a USB thumb drive footage out from out there for us to look at so we'll go through those clips i mean they look like they party that's that's the impression i'll give them that they're going hard uh so we're going to talk about that we're going to talk about uh speaking of right wing people partying we're going to talk about jerry falwell jr uh and his pool boy boy and also his personal trainer.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Little known aspect of the story. Man, he's just elevating small business owners across the country. You know what I mean? 23-year-old graduate from Liberty University. Also his personal trainer. Been getting some multi-million dollar payoffs from he and his wife. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about
Starting point is 00:09:05 University of Alabama. He got the results he said he could get. That's why he got paid. You get results. Right. That's right, man. You do what you gotta do. University of Alabama is open for business. We're going to see how they're handling the global pandemic that is still going on. We are going to look at how the Democratic Party is trying to use the West Wing to their advantage. We're going to look at movie theaters being open, all of that, plenty more. But first, Billy Wayne, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Billy Wayne, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I had to look up how to put a Twitch, all the games on Twitch, on your Twitch,
Starting point is 00:09:52 on an SD card. So, not hard, but I didn't know that that's... A switch to an SD card, you said? Yeah, Twitch, all your Twitch games to an SD card. Does that make sense? Huh. Twitch the streaming platform? Not Twitch.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Switch. God damn it. See? See why I had to look it up? I was like, Jack, this is a great setup for you, the self-proclaimed Nintendo Switch master. Damn, you got me saying Twitch now. See?
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah, yeah. It can happen. It happens to the best of us. Yeah, to all of us. It's an easy... And they're actually next to each other in the alphabet. Yeah. So, yep.
Starting point is 00:10:32 What were you doing? Like, are you playing a lot? Were you... They actually call me the Switcher, like the Witcher, but just my Nintendo Switch prowess is... Unbelievable, yeah. Yeah. What's your favorite game?
Starting point is 00:10:45 I just didn't know that you could fill up the thing, even though you're putting the games in. Yeah. Uh-huh. Totally. I love, I love this kind of a gaming show where people are fucking with it, but you're kind of like,
Starting point is 00:11:03 you don't really know. I don't know, man. Like, so it, so you can have of like, you don't really know it's going on. You're like, I don't know, man. Like, it's so it... So you can have the games there, but it also fills up the... This is the thing with these switches, man. You never know. Were you playing the game?
Starting point is 00:11:15 It's irritating. No, it's my son's, and now he's got, like... His mom... Well, there's not great communication sometimes between me and his mom's house. Sure. So that he has a switch there, which really defeats the whole purpose of the switch, if you ask me. You feel like you can take it anywhere.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's it. I know. But he needs one for that house, too. Okay. But it happens.
Starting point is 00:11:44 And it was just literally lack of communication. Then he had two. And he thought that was cool, of course, and didn't tell us. And I was like, all right, that's well played, fucker. You can't be mad at it. That's on dad. Dad just being lazy. But one of them's fucked up, of course.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And then he's like, I need to... We have to send one away. So I'm looking at all these games. I'm like, oh, this one's full. And I didn't know you could do that. So now I have to put them all onto an SD card. Backing them up. All right, man.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Yeah. Actually, if you... Well, we'll talk offline. But if you want to send it my way, I can usually tune up a switch pretty quickly. Diagnose that shit real quick, man. Yeah, yeah. I will do that because I even looked it up and I was like, I know I'm going to do some step wrong. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Yeah, yeah. No, that's beginner stuff. I mean, yeah. I'm happy to do it. I understand it's beginner stuff. You don't even make me feel bad about it. No, I actually... I'm just worried that I will lose something
Starting point is 00:12:47 that I don't know is meaningful in the process. Like Mario or someone like that. Just something important that I have and will never understand why it's meaningful. So I think that as a dad, that's the thing I'll have to... Those are the things you have to look out for the most right man it's gonna get so complicated being like having a four-year-old and a two-year-old
Starting point is 00:13:13 it's still so easy i feel like like i just i was saying on yesterday's episode i took them to the car wash and they were like so entertained by the right wait till they start talking shit about your car and shit and like the music that you're playing the music the what is this the 90s i'm gonna have to start beating their ass on switch games like oh now you hold that shit they don't like that it's a it's a fine line between destroying their confidence too right and then keeping their confidence yeah and then they get good and then you're like well i'm gonna have to destroy it again right it's broken yeah because like you let them up and you're like oh shit they kind of took me to the limit right there let me just get really good and you have to work and stuff and then you come back and you're like
Starting point is 00:13:59 oh you are just dominating me you're gonna have to do something to get in trouble so I can get good again. You're banned. Hey, what did I say about beating your old man at this game? Alright, that's it. I'm taking the switch for three months. You're not doing your chores. I don't have any chores. Exactly. It's bullshit. What is something you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:14:21 Picking aside. In what sense just period just being like i don't know man i'm i'm just going blindly and being like this is who like besides like in most things and like if you pick a side blindly that's just it's it's so dumb but we we all do it and i think people think it's an easier way out when it's not it's like it's just not thinking things through is when you pick a side yeah right you avoid doing you any analysis if if you're i guess your instinct is like i like that side i'm going to that side, then working through everything. But I mean, sometimes my sports loyalty is taking me places.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I'll pick a side in a game I don't give a shit about, but I'm going to cheer for them. And then you're like, damn, they're losing. This sucks. I wish I wouldn't have picked this side. They're like, where are you, Billy Wayne? In most of life, there is no winner. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:28 There's no official winner. Never. Yeah. Well, yeah, I guess, again, if the only way I guess you can is if we have very narrow, defined games where there is a loser and winner based on a numerical score. Are you going even beyond that? And that's when you should pick a side.
Starting point is 00:15:45 That's literally picking a side. Right. But the rest of it, we, as humans, pick a side because I think we think it's simpler. Like, I'll just pick this one and then I'll know if I win or lose and it's good. And you're like, ah, that's just not how most of anything works.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Right. But yeah, just a little bit of decision-making always helps. Always. Like constantly. I think that's the part of it is like you, there's just constant choices we're making and we don't, we want to simplify and we can't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Well, I think a lot of the times too, like when you, when you have to do an analysis of anything and be like, wait, I don't like everyone's on this side and i if i based on what i've read i would be on this side and fuck it it's i don't want to have to argue with people i'm just go to this side because it's easier that way
Starting point is 00:16:36 yeah and it's like we're with games it's easy to pick a sock because the foundation is normally everything is equal right so you're coming in and then we wanted i think and this is a political podcast so i will take it to politics we want to do that in politics and politics isn't equal foot it's not equal we don't start it's not an even thing we don't start like if the game is not yeah i mean yeah life as we know it like many of us are starting with like so many handicaps uh like in the game if we're gamifying it where it's like okay hold on you had a 900 year head start yeah and then all of us are missing the whole point that the game that we think we're playing isn't...
Starting point is 00:17:25 We can't... No one can win it playing it because it's not designed for us to win it. Yeah, as it's designed. We're battling each other when we should be the same team. Yeah. The way it's designed. The Dodgers. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Sure. We're all on the Dodgers. Sure. That's an easy side to pick. Actually, if you wouldn't even want to do that metaphor, They're all on the Dodgers. Sure. That's an easy side to pick. Actually, if you wouldn't even want to do that metaphor, we're all the goddamn A's. That's right. Can't spend over a certain amount.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Right. Yeah. Never officially win the whole thing. We got to do math. It's got to work out just mathematically perfect for us to move ahead. Yeah, because we don't have that consortium of owners we got to use sabermetrics to get to the middle class and then we gotta buy our own sabermetrics right and then buzzfeed is doing sabermetrics it's a whole thing um yeah uh and then and then
Starting point is 00:18:21 even when you do win you don't win the whole thing. Nope. You just have a good-ish year. I'm exhausted by picking sides. This hits very close to home for me right now with the NBA. Doing a lot of side picking. You got to do that. I do a lot of side picking.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Every team that's ever fired my dad. I have to root against them. Now I, it's just, it's too much. Now I have to be a Lakers fan. That's never where I wanted to end up, but look at you now. Look at me now.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Look at you now, Jack crawling through the little door where you get all dusty. When you come back crawling on your hands and knees and I get to say, well, it's she, well, it's she, well, it's she. They do look good, though. So I'm feeling good about the Lake Show. I mean, it's all. Not because I live in LA. And even when they win, I lose because I'm still breathing like smoke filled air in the city of Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:19:20 And I'm like, I gotta go inside. I got a headache. Billy, what is something you think is underrated? Sports. Sports are underrated. In what sense? What's it given you? Have you seen these? Have you heard about these? I just think that
Starting point is 00:19:36 people like people that just talk shit about sports. I don't understand that aspect. It's like, we've made exercising something you have to do right to be better scientifically we've made it fun and all that war you keep bitching about like we're preventing so much of it because we've taken like the best warriors and we've given them something to do besides just
Starting point is 00:20:05 murder everyone right yeah although some find their way back to murdering at some point but yeah for the most part pretty pretty good yeah no we're gonna be fine but yeah sports oh man it's it's really like it's it's it giveth and it taketh. That's the only thing I can say. I'm like constantly, yeah. Yeah, all the time. I don't know if I want to look at every single sports thing or avoid every single sports thing,
Starting point is 00:20:37 and then sometimes I'm like, this is the one positive thing I will give myself today, like being like, yes, I got to scream for this people in this outfit basically see i quit cheering i mean i like i have my teams that i'll follow because i enjoy that part but they i quit caring about the outcome because it's just the game itself whatever game i'm watching is usually pretty fun. It's such an escape, too.
Starting point is 00:21:10 We were like, hey, for the next two hours or so, I'm going to be involved with this pretty emotionally. That's kind of fun. I feel like the NBA bubble, the basketball has taken a step up. I don't know if it's because the defense is like a lower quality but i i don't know man it's i've never been aware of how fucking good these athletes are that like luka donchich's game over over the weekend against the clippers was one of the most incredible things i've ever seen damian lillard and then LeBron two days ago, like shooting from half court.
Starting point is 00:21:47 It's just like they're doing things that should be impossible. It's amazing. Well, it's not impossible. It's that they live in a bubble now where there's literally so few distractions that they just become machines, like we've designed you.
Starting point is 00:22:05 And then us, even as fans fans the focus is on the game like they have a couple of you know like us dingbats like i am a virtual fan but like there's no other distractions that they have in arenas where there's like cheerleaders and there's like iaders. I was saying to Aaron the other night, I was like, it's cool that there's not a row of photographers on the baseline and these guys can play. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Run out of bounds for 30 feet. Yeah. That's how the game is supposed to be played. But going on the baseline like that, you can't. Those fucking cameras hurt. Yeah. Yeah. I wondered, like, yeah, what they, I mean, obviously, like, the league can't sustain itself without selling tickets to, like, sold out arenas.
Starting point is 00:22:58 But, like, there's something to this new, like, bubble form of basketball that's, like, so interesting to me where it does feel like warrior shit where it's like, I have to go to the bubble to do battle for months. I will not see you until I come back victorious or defeated. That's right. But here's the thing, though. I do think it's making, it's very sustainable without selling tickets because I think a long time ago like baseball they realized most of their ticket sales most of the money and guaranteed money comes from
Starting point is 00:23:33 corporations buying season tickets and suites that's where their tickets sell the rest of it is not coming from normal fans because they can't afford to go. Yeah. So I think they're figuring that out. Whereas it might go into a smaller arena kind of situation just because they can cut out a lot of excess expenses. Right. I think because the TV ratings are actually down in the bubble and that that's a mistake by the way on viewers part. Cause the basketball is like incredible to watch,
Starting point is 00:24:11 but I do think there's a certain level where people just can't get past the fact that it's like a little bit sterile. Like the, just the vibe of it is a little sterile. Cause like you don't have the, the emotional sort of energy in the room of a sports. I don't like the piped in noises.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I don't like that. No, that's weird. Even in the baseball games where they're cheering I'm like, stop! There's not an option to turn that off, is there? I don't think so. In Europe, in the soccer matches depending on who the broadcaster was, you could go to the natural sound feed, and it was great because it just sounded like Juco College soccer where you could hear the coaches and everyone screaming at each other.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And I was like, yo, this is what I'm really interested in because hearing that communication, you completely miss that when there's a you know 60 000 fans screaming yes like that's why i'm i think baseball is the one that i noticed it on and it made me mad i was like i want to hear the glove popping i want to hear how hard it's coming off the bat and i want to hear what they're saying to each other because it's filthy yeah it's filthy in there. Especially any of the Astros games. It's just like, let's just mic everybody up. Let's put it on HBO. And let's watch the game. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Fucking Joe Kelly, man. Nice swing, bitch. Fucking maniac. That guy really, wow. He embodied the hurt of an entire city. Where everyone, like Angelina's, were like, yeah, free anything if Joe Kelly comes into my business, wow. He embodied the hurt of an entire city, like where everyone, like Angelenos are like, yeah, free anything if Joe Kelly comes into my business, honestly. Like that's, everyone wanted to scream that shit to the Astros.
Starting point is 00:25:51 He'll never pay for eyeglasses again. No, never. Is there, Billy Wayne, is there any noticeable, like I think in the NBA we've talked about how like offense is really like next level because people are like really focused and there's a natural reward while defense is maybe taking a step down. Is there anything like that in baseball? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I think, if anything, a crowd can throw momentum in baseball, but it's not as much as you would think that is already the momentum of what has happened in the game yeah uh so these guys they don't know the crowd is there most of the time so it doesn't matter they don't it's they like like miles has said, it's like a Juco soccer game. It's like their whole career, no one's been there. Right. Yeah, that's right. So up until now, it's just like now they're just like,
Starting point is 00:26:56 oh, this is kind of more fun because I can say, I can scream fuck you, which I've always been able to do. That's what they're paying us millions is so that we're not animals anymore that's what baseball players are yeah right uh finally what is a myth what's something uh people think is true you know to be false that uh entertainers are artists okay oh man yeah tell them tell them about that one by the way i love every time you're the guest just watching you uh figure out what your myth and overage and underage is you like have like three ideas that are entertaining before you land on the on the one you want to go let's do this way yeah that is how that is how my brain works it's fun that you guys can see it did you have that evolution of looking
Starting point is 00:27:47 at entertainers as artists and like sort of mystifying that and then realizing like what the no like these are different things or like creating a myth like a mysticism around the idea of being an entertainer artist because i know i had these like perceptions of what that meant that i had to very quickly let go of like as I got older and started like doing my own work. Yeah. I think it was a lot of like, you have this idea of they misuse those words a lot. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:17 And then in like, and in country music, they have this thing called entertainer of the year, which I think is, as I got older, it's like, that's the most appropriate worded award i've ever seen because like you know it hit me because it was like garth brooks he kept winning it and then as you get older you realize like this motherfucker
Starting point is 00:28:38 is all over the place opinion wise if you if you follow his catalog or like what he's saying or anything you're like i don't think i don't know what he really it's just all over the place right okay uh and then you just realize like he's an entertainer he's gonna do anything hop around and you know and he's wearing whatever town jersey he's in playing that that arena, he's gonna pant. You start realizing, oh, all this is a business decision. Showman, yeah. And I don't think if I didn't get into doing what I do, because I would have ever
Starting point is 00:29:25 put those together in a way that's me saying it on a podcast as meaningful as I said it because I wouldn't care but I think everybody you come to a point when you're doing when you're putting your name on something
Starting point is 00:29:40 that are your ideas you have to make that decision like is this for money or is this for this right or am i doing all this for money right you know so i think it was just something i had to my my point of view of it was like i made a point where i was like as long as i admit to myself what i'm doing and to everybody else as long as i'm clear like this is for this and this is my point of view and i'm transparent about it then we're fine it was the melding of like artist and entertainer
Starting point is 00:30:19 where you're like nah you're just selling shit man and that's fine but don't don't lie to me yeah don't fuck up the definition like that because it's like yeah there's a lot of quotes that go around where someone someone famously said is like you know in previous eras people became famous for their achievements and now we live in an era where fame is the achievement and it's not really about these people actually breaking new ground and doing things it's just like face du jour you know like entity du jour that we're all like we're all obsessed with and the art thing is also really interesting too because yeah like when you create shit you
Starting point is 00:30:56 really do have to have a moment where in any creative process you have that self-edit thing happening in your head and you have to be careful of who that, what that self edit is representing. Is it your, is it your perception of what the, how the audience is going to take something you're going to say? And then are you changing it because you want to do something that satisfies the audience? Or are you making a creative decision because you're an artist and you're, this is a matter of your own self expression. It's not the, you're not, you're not sort of fixated on the outcome of how it's received when you're making art because you're like, this is merely the medium in which I express myself in. Now, certain mediums, yeah, you can't just go up there and say some wild shit or do some wild
Starting point is 00:31:35 shit and be like, that's my art. But on another level, when you really have these creations that are molding yourself, that really does come into it of like what am i what is it for who is it for and why am i doing it i think it's interesting to think about the whole thing on a continuum like you know because there are some people who get into entertainment but are more artists and then they like don't fit necessarily. Andre 3000, I think of as somebody who's an artist, but the demands of being an entertainer don't necessarily mesh with him, which is why he hasn't put out an album.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Garth is an entertainer, but I've always said Chris Gaines is the artist, right? Right. I think that goes without saying. That's why he had to do that. Yeah. I don't even know if that's a joke because i can't even because you're not i don't think in i think in some way you're fucking right i think that's the way he views that right but i do i do love the entertainer verse artist like Like, Las Culturistas has actress or movie star, and Who Weekly has a who versus them.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I think artist versus entertainer is a really good conversation starter. We might have to make that a podcast. Well, my thing is, too, like what Miles said, is the fame as a reward is also phony because that's misleading because you us three right now could pool our money together and buy a publicist and that publicist can make the three of us whatever bullshit trio we came up with right and make us fucking famous and people could be like i don't understand what it is these guys do right and we're like what we do is we hire up we pay a
Starting point is 00:33:34 publicist this amount of money each month and they keep us in the fucking rags or whatever system and now you guys talk about the fucking dingbat trio right yeah and then and then people and if it keeps going long enough we come up with some bullshit to do live so people just come to see what it is and it's like they have a cow on stage and one of them milks it it's weird the other guy's juggling a soccer ball while smoking a blunt it's exactly and the one dude i don't even think he knows what's going on but it works and i will give them 50 every time they come to the other guys like the dancer from uh mighty mighty bostones but there's no music playing he's just dancing with headphones that would be my
Starting point is 00:34:26 that's my role uh all right guys let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk rnc when you think of mexican culture you think of avocado mariachi delicious cuisine and of course, Lucha Libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha Libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha Libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture.
Starting point is 00:34:57 This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network
Starting point is 00:35:33 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion
Starting point is 00:35:56 became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. My reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes.
Starting point is 00:36:16 We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRad. It's not that way at all. They're very accepting. Jeff Goldblum. Are you saying secret fries? Secret fries. What? That's what you're saying? Yeah. And Kristen Wiig. I just became so aware that I'm such a loud chewer. My husband's just like, sometimes I'll be eating and he'll just be looking at me. I'm like, I'm just eating. Like, I don't know how else to chew. Table for Two is a bit different from other interview shows.
Starting point is 00:37:10 We sit down at a great restaurant for a meal and the stories start flowing. Our second season is airing right now so you can catch up on our conversations that are intimate, surprising, and often hilarious. that are intimate, surprising, and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts,
Starting point is 00:37:40 separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. These are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every thursday listen on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and uh the rnc is happening uh and i guess we'll be talking about two nights ago when night one of the RNC. Yeah. Can I do my take on tonight?
Starting point is 00:38:54 Yeah, what's your take on last night? Yeah, man, did you see? I mean, that one person said, I mean, what they said, it was like, and then that one thing, I don't even think that makes sense. That wasn't, but they yelled it. You know what I mean? They yelled it loud, and it was like and then that one thing i don't even think that makes sense that wasn't but they yelled it you know what i mean they yelled it loud and it was the one point the senator made completely historically inaccurate oh no that is revisionist for that instance yeah and racist everything they said was racist yeah and you know what that is pretty much yeah you
Starting point is 00:39:21 can rely on that for this and if they didn't't, what they said wasn't racist, then they've misspoke. I really do think. They're like, give him a mulligan and do that one over. The big takeaway that was still trending the day after seemed to be that Donald Trump Jr. and his girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, were probably on cocaine. That was still trending yesterday morning. So that's what people were left with. His eyes seemed to be red, except for his pupils, which were giant and watering.
Starting point is 00:40:02 The watering eyes is what... It looked like a dude who like you know i don't even know this it sounds like it looked like a dude that did drugs his vibes were like i remember like when you you know when you're like the like teenager college kid and like people are trying to do drugs you're like i don't know man it's not really your vibe like no i want to and like all right well don't make it hot when we go to this party okay don't fucking blow up the spot with your antics because you're high off drugs and like all good all good cut to them making it hot for everybody because they're high on drugs like his like traveling at light speed face that he was doing where his like barely could open his
Starting point is 00:40:41 eyes and they were like so moist and he's like yeah man president like i'm just sweating up here it uh at the very least was the most uncomfortable one of the most uncomfortable things i've seen he did look like he was at 1.25 speed like he was just sped up a little bit too much um and yeah his cadence was weird like It was like they were having to speed up the teleprompter to keep up with him, and he was pausing at the wrong point. He's going like this with his hand, like, speed it up, speed it up.
Starting point is 00:41:13 I have done that powdered upper a handful of times in my life. I've been pretty open about it. It's not new news. Right. I never once thought, hey, you guys, I want to go talk to a bunch of people right now. Yeah. Like a ton.
Starting point is 00:41:33 It never occurred to me to do it before I went on stage, and that was my, it never, ever, just because I think it didn't, and if you watch it, it hits him second-scent what he's done. Yeah. There's a moment of panic that is combined with the drug guy. Because, like, when you're on that, your brain is, like, three or four steps ahead of what your mouth's saying. So there's, like, moments.
Starting point is 00:42:02 That's what makes it clear. Like, there's moments in his like facial stuff where you're like oh he's on okay right yeah and he's aware that he's made a terrible decision which is also a very common right a side effect of that drug is being aware as soon as you do it like we shouldn't have nah, we shouldn't have done this. We should not have done this. I guess I'm going to not, I'm going to miss my kids little league game in the morning now. When is this over?
Starting point is 00:42:30 When, when does this end? How long does this last? Well, does it feel better if we do more? Okay. Let's just keep doing it. Let's just keep going.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Yeah. Steer into the curve. So, Oh, they were telling the truth about this in dare class. This was like, yeah, I don't have the budget for this.
Starting point is 00:42:45 His girlfriend, though, Kimberly Guilfoyle, she also got her her roses. Everyone was comparing her to Rita Repulsa from Mighty Morphin Power Rangers because she was like screaming from the mountain. She's like this president. Yeah. Well, that's someone that's comfortable on that drug that's a different type of that's someone that is like that is a i think she's might be what i don't know if you've seen that show what we do in the show she's like an energy vampire right where she was sucking it all in where she was like this is my time give me all your energy. And everybody was like, I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:43:26 She's scaring us. Yeah. I mean, a lot of the points that most people made were so like hollow, like bad sales pitches. And I'll just play like sort of the first couple highlights of Kimberly Guilfoyle, because I mean, she starts off just being like, yo, guys, hop on board the Trump train. And then let me also show you that I completely don't know anything about United States history. As commander in chief, he always puts America first. President Trump is the law and order president. As a first generation American, I know how dangerous their socialist agenda is. My mother, Mercedes,
Starting point is 00:44:06 was a special education teacher from Aguadilla, Puerto Rico. My father, also an immigrant, came to this nation in pursuit of the American dream. I'm just going to pause that there. My son is half Puerto Rican, and he is... He's American. Never had to get a passport to go to his mother's
Starting point is 00:44:29 home island because it's part of the United States of America oh well hey you know but hey as a first general but then my dad also so let's not forget that I I guess I'll passively claim in which instance i'm a first generation american uh that was a lot of people were like what is this person doing like up here just trying to you know set the stage because she then goes on to be like i've first of all like as a first generation american you're trying to say that what you're from venezuela because i feel like that's the typical punching line for anything moving towards more socialist policies. It's like, Venezuela, but she's like,
Starting point is 00:45:07 my mom's from Puerto Rico, and as a first-generation American, I know how bad socialism is. You're like, what? If anything, you should know how bad empire and colonization is. You could speak on that. I mean, first of all,
Starting point is 00:45:19 she doesn't know that her mom is also an American citizen. She doesn't realize that. She was horribly embarrassed as a child. Also, they, whoever, she wasn't coming up with that stuff off the top of her head. That speech was written.
Starting point is 00:45:36 So somebody else also read that and was like, yep, this checks out. Go out there. Also, hey, snort this real quick off the speech. Yeah, everyone's got to say it. Now go out there. I like the idea of her as an energy or power vampire because she, as it was pointed out frequently during her speech,
Starting point is 00:45:56 she merely 10 years ago was married to Gavin Newsom. Yeah, how quickly we forget. Yeah, so she just goes, you know, she wants to be where the power's at so she can just drink it up and have lightning bolts coming from her fingertips. Could we tie in when Junior made the hairstyle switch? Could that tie into when they got together?
Starting point is 00:46:27 Oh, because he went with the slick back? Mm. And that's Newsome's thing. Yeah. Yeah, like the Patrick Bateman style hair. I don't know. Yeah, that's a... Let me see.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Don Jr. in 2016, he was... He kind of always... It's always been greasy. That's a thing. Well, I mean, that's redundant. Yes. Yeah. It's just like whether or not it was like side grease or full on that. I just need to know which which grease, which direction.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Yeah, it's I mean, that could definitely be it. And I wonder if he gets insecure about it where she's always like, Don, why don't you just like slick it all the way back just go straight back don't do the side part it looks so cute and he's like okay but isn't this how
Starting point is 00:47:11 your ex did it oh did he I don't know huh you know like that's weird did you see what Gavin said in the news today did you see what Gavin said what a loser he's such an idiot he's such an idiot he's so stupid did you see what Gavin said? What a loser. He's such an idiot. He's such an idiot. He's so stupid.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Did you see what he said? No, why would he do? He clearly thinks it's cute. You're over him, right? Yes, babe, I told you. Don't worry about it. I'm going to my Gavin. I'm going to my Gavin wall.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And he just punches. Stupid Gavin. Yeah, just sorts a rail and starts headbutting some drywall so the other thing that we saw during the rnc was a ton of culture war laureates i mean it was like it was really weird it was like small business owners who had no business speaking at the rnc because it was just basically who is going to say like who's gonna just lick the boot and eat the deep throat the entire boot on camera uh for the president. That's all we need.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Those, if you can't do that, then we don't have any place for you. The other people that they got up and we were jokingly saying this, that like the St. Louis anti Antifa protector couple who pulled the guns on the protesters in their gated community. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:18 They had their moment to speak as well. And I was like, yeah, watch these people can speak at the RNC. Well, they did. And you knew, we already knew what time it was like yeah watch these people can speak at the rnc well they did and you knew we already knew what time it was when you see these people on that lineup because the whole
Starting point is 00:48:29 rhetoric now is stoke the flames of like racial hatred and fear and whatever and and mr mccloskey mark mccloskey really he put it like he just lets y'all, I'm here to warn you. The Marxist liberal activist leading the mob to our neighborhood stood outside our home with a bullhorn screaming, you can't stop the revolution. Just weeks later, that same Marxist activist won the Democrat nomination to hold a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives. In the city of St. Louis, that's the same as winning the general election. That Marxist revolutionary is now going to be the congresswoman from the 1st District of Missouri.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Oh, you'll love to see it. They were with the bullhorn. That's cool, man. Thanks for letting everybody know. That's awesome. I know. Yeah. Great update.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Big up to them. You know, went from the streets out there then uh patricia mccloskey also had a take to add about the democrats she was saying the democrats quote want to abolish the suburbs altogether by ending single family homes zoning this forced rezoning would bring crime lawlessness and low quality apartments into now thriving suburban neighborhoods. Jesus Christ. Low-quality. I mean, come on. Just say black and brown people.
Starting point is 00:49:50 She can't. She's a lawyer. It's exhausting deciphering it. Yeah, right? She can't. She knows the difference. So she's just like, and this is, it's not even, it's lazy classism more than racism to me.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Yeah. But this is very specifically this is very much directed at a specific group of white americans and uh oh no without no without a doubt but i think but that's what she's doing is like that that's how she's been justifying it in her dumb brain oh well that's i mean yeah the deracialized language of like school choice or house zone housing zones yeah sure i mean but in the in the end at the end of the day you're still the aim is still the same whether or not your brain is interacting with it sincerely or not to be like is this racist i don't know call it zoning yes yes where you're just like no just just you've got to be honest that you're racist yeah that so the the other things that were going i mean the whole like everything people were saying
Starting point is 00:50:53 just was so empty like it had no vision there was all it did was like well can i say why because all their wonderful operators have been indicted or prosecuted. So they have no one that's like fucking interesting and can actually articulate their bullshit policies in an interesting way where you're like, okay, we have to dissect what he just said because it was awful. But here's what he made it sound like it happened but now they don't have any of those operators so it's just it's just people that are unafraid to hold a gun outside their mansion is who they've got exactly that's where we're at now but i think the other thing too is the when you looked at 2016, at least there was this weird pseudo-populist angle that he had going. And you could see how that was energizing people because it was at least painting this thing of what it could be versus what it used to be and what now is.
Starting point is 00:51:58 And now I think that racist dishrag and the fear of a less white america that's been like rang so dry that like it's at this point you're like what's coming out of there anymore like you're not really getting much out of this and when you look at sort of the i mean now they're just relying on just really really lame attacks and there's nothing really to do with like this is how your life will improve right yeah uh it's just culture culture worship i do want to just shout out a couple highlights um because there was some great comedic moments uh matt gates uh from florida wonderful representative he had this just fucking burn of all burns uh for joe biden i'm congressman matt gates i'm speaking to you from an auditorium
Starting point is 00:52:45 emptier than joe biden's daily schedule that was sick bro uh and then i just want to say can i just send it can i can we can we as just from he's he's dipping his toes into my world here. And I just like it. It's the same as woman's scream speech. It's like that moment made me laugh, not because of the joke or how bad it even was. It made me laugh because I picture eight douchebags in a room going over that joke and dying in a way that,
Starting point is 00:53:30 like, you know when you see people laughing and you're like, I wish I could laugh like that? That sounds, that shares something. But then you find out what they're laughing at and you're like, oh, you guys are all real dumb, huh? Oh, man. And then you just air it. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:48 You just air it. You're like, this is a, because there's some other ones that they all didn't agree on. And those, I would like to see that piece of paper. Yeah. Well, I mean, like you said, the RNC brings out the finest
Starting point is 00:53:59 of the right side of the chamber. And during the roll call, I just want to commend, I don't even know this guy's name, one of the fucking delegates of the chamber. And during the roll call, I just want to commend, I don't even know this guy's name, one of the fucking delegates during the roll call didn't even know what fucking election he was talking about
Starting point is 00:54:14 or who the president, just listen to this clip, it's so funny. I am Bob Paduchick, son of Anthony and Judy Paduchick, and I cast Ohio's 82 votes for Donald John President. Hey, man, he had a big moment. Do you think his dad was like,
Starting point is 00:54:39 ah, wish you wouldn't have said our name. Wish you wouldn't have said our name. Fuck. Did he say Paduchick? Put your family's name on that, man. Ugh, I'm getting it. Like, yeah, his mom and dad are like, they just look at each other on the couch like,
Starting point is 00:54:52 fuck. Fuck. I gave him everything. I wish he would all the way. That's our son. That's our son. I wish. And everybody knows it.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I wish I could just see, like, the five seconds after he delivers it. Because clearly they gonna cut away and he probably goes you think i fucked that or maybe it was like an anchor inside he probably went or he like looked at the camera went whoops something like that but inside you know he died he said donald john president you don't think it was an anchorman situation where somebody had to be like uh yeah either way whatever the origin is i just love that that was said out loud it's just so it just warms my heart yeah throughout that whole racist nightmare of a thing and then uh lastly today uh as we record this tuesday melania trump will speak and her reps have made a promise
Starting point is 00:55:46 that unlike 2016 she will only plagiarize some of michelle obama's words from the past not entire chunks uh but they did know they did come out to say we're like there will be no plagiarism don't worry yes they're, it's all original Maddie, baby. Original material. They're calling their shot. This speech won't be plagiarized. Just out to right. She's going to say some unrecognizable garbage that no one would ever say before her.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Right. Is what they're saying. would ever say before her right is what they're saying supposedly there's a uh tell all coming from you know one of the 3 000 tell all's coming out in the next few months about the trump administration but one from a former aide to melania that has her just talking the hottest shit about uh the trump family and his adult kids and what an idiot her husband is. So that'll be interesting. But we know that. We know all that.
Starting point is 00:56:53 We know that. It'll be interesting to see that she knows that. I guess what do you do with these tell-alls, though? At a certain point, people are just like, I'm not going to buy that book. I just know the best shit's going to come out in a fucking huffpo article in like 20 minutes so right the point yeah i do want to read cohen's book oh yeah that's got to be just absolute like it's probably gonna read like that motley crew fucking autobiography yes we're just like just
Starting point is 00:57:22 like man you should go back to jail probably yeah they're like yo they let you out and they let you talk about this shit out loud like wow yeah he's like i told these stories in jail and people uh they won't look at me in here people are scared of me uh all right well we're actually gonna talk about michael cohen when we get back uh because he actually has a small role to play in the Jerry Falwell Jr. store. We'll be right back. Yeah. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and
Starting point is 00:58:01 of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha Libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha Libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish
Starting point is 00:58:21 about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Hey, I'm Bruce Bazzi. On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guest you could possibly ask for. People like David Duchovny. You know, New Yorkers have a reputation of being very tough, but it's not. It's not that way at all. They're very accepting. Jeff Goldblum. Are you saying secret fries?
Starting point is 00:59:13 Secret fries. What? That's what you're saying? Yeah. And Kristen Wiig. I just became so aware that I'm such a loud chewer. My husband's just like, sometimes I'll be eating and he'll just be looking at me. I'm like, I'm just eating.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Like, I don't know how else to chew. Table for Two is a bit different from other interview shows. We sit down at a great restaurant for a meal and the stories start flowing. Our second season is airing right now so you can catch up on our conversations that are intimate, surprising, and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:59:55 In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist.
Starting point is 01:00:19 I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 01:00:47 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.
Starting point is 01:01:26 The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the i heart radio app,
Starting point is 01:01:46 Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. So the big news from a couple of days ago, Jerry Falwell Jr. Uh, and his wife had a longterm relationship with a pool pool boy they met when he was 20 years old. They were on vacation in Florida.
Starting point is 01:02:10 They went into business with him, started investing a lot of money in a youth hostel that he was running. I've seen that on Pornhub, that youth hostel. Yeah. No, it's hot. Yeah. It's called Fake Hostel. People notice hostel people notice that more like this is a very strange relationship what's going on there well uh he recently came out and said it was a long-term sexual relationship wherein he would he would uh have sex with jerry falwell's wife
Starting point is 01:02:42 and then jerry falwell would be in the corner watching uh and they're you know reuters who is the uh outlet that published this it's not like tmz or you know it's reuters reuters with it reuters and we have some screen caps no no no no no it's reuters after dark is that's right. Reuters premium. But they saw screen caps where she was talking with him on FaceTime, nude, and Jerry was in the background. So it's not. So Jerry's version of events.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Hi. Tell him I said hi. I tell him Jerry's here. Tell him Jerry's here. Jerry's version of events. Hi! Tell him I said hi! I tell him Jerry's here! Tell him Junior says hi! Jerry's version of events is that, I guarantee that it's not far from the truth. But his version of events is that
Starting point is 01:03:35 he just found out that his wife was having an affair. So, in this three-way, he was fully... While I was standing in the corner this whole time. Throwing her under the bus, man. Yeah, just threw her under the bus. I can't wait to hear from her.
Starting point is 01:03:56 There's also the matter of the photographs that Michael Cohen made disappear for them before Jerry Falwell Jr.'s surprising and incredibly important endorsement of Donald Trump for president. People were like, huh, that's weird that one of the foremost leaders in the evangelical movement would endorse Donald Trump for president. Well, part of the reason may have been that he had what were called racy personal photographs that somebody was dangling over their head that he reached out to Michael Cohen to make disappear before his endorsement. In 2015 or 2015 yeah 15 he had michael cohen like basically do what michael cohen
Starting point is 01:04:48 does and make some photographs disappear scare somebody uh and hand in over the photographs and by the way there's hey you know you know how all y'all think that we're all bad and do all this sex stuff right well we do so i going to need you to do your thing. Right. Because, and then I got a bunch of votes. So it does work the way you think it does. And then I need you to do your, your lawyer shit. There you go.
Starting point is 01:05:17 So I, I can, I'm going to go back to the, if just blink twice and I can go back to my corner. All right. There's a recorded uh phone call of michael cohen talking to tom arnold for some reason i think tom arnold like had a show where he was trying to get him get get those like tapes from the apprentice right where he's saying the n-word right well that's that would surely sink him yeah like at this point it's like yo save it save it we already know it's all there now a bunch of a bunch of racist if he said they if he said the n-word out loud a bunch of racists would show
Starting point is 01:05:50 up with like a crown of thorns for him right yes the um but during the course of that uh futile effort he came across this fact that uh a recorded conversation with michael cohen where uh cohen said that the Falwells wanted to keep a bunch of photographs, personal photographs from becoming public. I actually have one of the photos, he said. It's terrible. I mean, there's no,
Starting point is 01:06:18 I don't believe that somehow Jerry Falwell reaches out to Michael Cohen to sort this thing out. I think it feels more like Michael Cohen lets them know they have this shit and endorse or get the pictures dropped. Right. Yeah. I mean, however it happens. I think you're underestimating the evil and the scuzziness of the son of Jerry Falwell.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Yeah. Like, he was raised not, like, that's that world. That's a scuzzy world they lit, like, he grew up in. So I think they all know each other, especially if you're already grooming a 20-year-old. I think you know Michael Cohen through those channels, through those kid grooming channels. I think I could believe either one just as much, right?
Starting point is 01:07:03 Because even with that quote where Michael Cohen's like, yeah, they wanted these photos hidden and I actually have one. It's like, what the fuck do you have it for? Right. To hold over his head. And then, so it's after that that Falwell endorses Trump. You think Cohen didn't let him know, oh, by the way, I still have one of those photographs when he was asking for his endorsement do you think do you think Falwell Jr. gave them that photo so he could get invited to Epstein parties because he wasn't invited before he's like listen I'm weird I'm weird too let me in the compromise yeah um there's also this 23 year old personal fitness trainer that Reuters reported on. Recent graduate of Liberty University, who they gave a multi-million dollar land deal
Starting point is 01:07:49 to, gave him actually part of Liberty University, what used to be part of Liberty University, 18-acre racket sports and fitness facility. And he is the trainer to both Jerry Falwell Jr. and his wife. I bet he is. I bet he trains the shit out of them. Oh Jr. and his wife. I bet he is. I bet he trains the shit out of them. Oh, my God. Putting that work in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Wow. Wow, wow, wow. I train the cum out of both of them. I do that. I'm a good trainer. Right out of them. Straight out of them. Right out of both of them.
Starting point is 01:08:18 They're dehydrated when I'm done with them. That's what I do. I also own most of lynchburg virginia at this point that's how good at training i am i fuck so good i fuck his wife so good i'm now the mayor of lynchburg i do not fuck sir i train i train i'm a trainer my mistake sir thank you for coming on the daily zeitgeist yeah the all of it is it's just so wild because yes on one level there's this like scandal and whatever you know no kink shame and that's what they do but there's so many other things about jerry falwell
Starting point is 01:08:49 jr and how that business is run that like people really need to start paying more attention to like with the way liberty university is ran like you know as a basically a for-profit non-profit college right and the amount of like federal funds they actually are able like the students get there's a study that was saying in around the 20 by 2017 after a few years uh liberty students were receiving more than 772 million dollars in total aid from the department of education and 100 million of it in the form of pell grants and they would also do this thing where like the second they this and this is what happens with every uh for-profit non-profit college is a rich motherfucker he reigns this the second they find out someone's a veteran they they even recruit you harder because you have even more government
Starting point is 01:09:38 assistance you have access to as a veteran so they have like it's all you know very similar to donald trump like you inherit something from your dad you leverage a bunch of debt against it you try and like rent your way out of it do whatever and here they are the amount of work that q anon followers are having to do to create these theories about you know, furniture companies naming, code naming their furniture, various things, because there's kids hidden inside the furniture. And then, like, this is just, like, falling in our laps. And they're just like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Well, there's, yeah, there's leaked documents from a court case where someone's like, yeah, and then the president was fucking that kid. Right. documents from a court case where someone's like yeah and then the president was fucking that kid right um so that's my the new q1 thing i heard that makes my head just go like baddie is that they're not going to vote for biden because his family has an island that's 10 miles away from epstein's island and that's why he's not on any of the logs is because he took a boat is that even true that they have i don't know i don't because that's one of the things that made me like biden the most is that he's like really bad with money and like throughout like
Starting point is 01:10:59 having one of the longest careers in politics like never got rich. He's always been not rich because he doesn't, I don't know. That's not what he's like. He likes the attention, I think, more than the whole game. He's just like, I take the train because people recognize me and they talk to me.
Starting point is 01:11:16 It's nice. Right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he does not own an island next to Jeffrey Epstein's. Oh, so the QAnon people were lying to me? Okay. Yeah. I do not know who to trust.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Joe's brother, James, bought an Ocean View property on an island, and that was eight miles from Epstein's. And then they say subsequent transactions related to that land raised questions about a lobbyist's ties to the Bidens. Though it was unclear if Joe was aware of any of these transactions. So, like, the most they have is, like, his brother owned a fucking, like, condo on a nearby island. But he owned, I don't mean, like, again, either way, it's. They were smuggling him, Joe, to that condo in furniture that was assembled. And then he would sneak out swim over um i mean the whole thing but it's it's all right it's all pretty clear miles it's all pretty clear it's all it's all there for and by the way bill clinton is absolutely guilty of this shit and should rot in jail like nobody's yeah right yeah it feels like i don't
Starting point is 01:12:25 know if i was doing op research on bill clinton i'd be like he's i think we could get him with women i think we could it seems yeah i think that's his thing i think he's into that sort of thing it just seems so but it's so wild how the Epstein shit's such a third rail for both parties. Right. Because it's like, dude, the second we do that, we're inviting the analysis of our shit too. And he's just like, somebody just completely just let it be known. Let it all be known. Right. But, you know, that's what's so interesting about that too is like it's so, you could never genuinely engage with the Epstein criticism without immediately having it boomerang
Starting point is 01:13:06 back to you and having to account for like other people within the same party which is what i feel like democrats should be doing like yeah so what if this guy's a fucking predator like get his ass the fuck out yeah we kick that comedian out because he's doing comedy right yeah yeah the whole it's i don't know what is going to have i think because someone had a tweet i think it was uh aaron thorpe who was saying like bill clinton is like the leftist's final boss right to defeat like it's like the one guy like it's just like they can't like he's unfuckwithable yeah it's like la he's very charming i do think i think he has it. That the bad guy was one of you all along. Oh, man. Well, he wasn't, he was clearly not one of us.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Right. But he played that sax so damn good. Well, no, it's like anybody that's talented. He just, he didn't have a clear jawline or that motherfucker would have been in Hollywood. Right, right. Instead, have been in Hollywood. Right. Instead, Hollywood for ugly people. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:11 He's just super, and I think Hillary recognized that in that library. She's like, listen, I know who you are. You fucked most of my friends, but God, you're good at politics. Right. Let's do this. Yeah. Ah, shit.
Starting point is 01:14:22 And he was like, hey, you got smarts. Let's go and you don't care that i put my thing and stuff as long as we're doing power doing power the hillary and bill story the new dp i do i i can't wait for that hulu series about her life if she hadn't married bill uh oh is that still coming out yeah they're working on it there's a book that it's based on that was like a bestseller that's just it's called rodham uh and she uh and it like how it's like a sexy book. Oh, yeah. She's a power-rotom. Billy Wayne,
Starting point is 01:15:10 it's been a pleasure having you as always. Where can people find you and follow you? Google Billy Wayne Davis and all that stuff comes up is the best way. So whatever way
Starting point is 01:15:21 you like to follow entertainers and artists, follow that. And then I have a podcast called Grown Local. We discussed in the beginning a little bit. But it's a cannabis podcast, but it's not like a bunch of stoners being like, this makes me feel like pineapples. What I did was we're going season by season to different communities and meeting the people that make up these communities, like the growers. And like, we're putting a, we're trying to put a face on this stereotype and bust it wide open because I do think it can save our whole planet, not to get grandiose, but it does have that fucking capability.
Starting point is 01:16:04 So. Hell yeah. Was that too much of a bitch? No, I don't think you can do much but be like, weed will save our planet. I think that's the best hook. I do, it's going to. Well, great, but I'm all in. You know, then call me Captain Planet.
Starting point is 01:16:18 I will. Billy Wayne, is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes, there has been a great oh i just my favorite tweet i've seen in the last month is just it's just like a perfect way to sum up the world is it was quote tweeting an article about ellen and all that stuff and her just being like nasty in it Tim Dillon just said you know what I think I think she should be in jail Miles where can people find you and follow you uh you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at
Starting point is 01:17:01 miles of gray uh and also my other podcast for 20 day fiance. We're just, you know, getting faded and talking about 90 day fiance, me and Sophia, Alexandra, uh, some tweets.
Starting point is 01:17:12 I like one is from George Wallace, the great George, Mr. At Mr. George Wallace, uh, 4,634 people died of COVID in China. Total.
Starting point is 01:17:21 We are at 177,000 and climbing. Don't call it the China virus this shit is the trump mumps uh yes i think good rebranding since he wants to be so racist with it it boomeranged right back to you uh another one is from dash turner uh tweeting i don't know if you saw that tweet that was going around a couple days ago that was like that list of like books that are like red flags that have like if you see a dude's bookshelf and it's got ayn rand like all this other stuff so i think this this tweet is sort of riding that sort of like book list wave and uh dash turner tweeted he says i dated a guy with a quote if you go home with someone and they don't have books don't fuck them, fridge magnet, and he literally didn't have books.
Starting point is 01:18:11 That just made me realize another favorite one. I had another tweet. It was Mike Racine. It was a New York City comic. He goes, genuine question. Do women enjoy any movie? Genuine question. Say it one time in the back Charlotte Shane tweeted
Starting point is 01:18:28 it's a red flag if a man reads if I want an idea in his head I'll put it there myself just going off that same wave and JessBarnes5 at AOL.com what a username tweeted weirdos the communists want to take
Starting point is 01:18:48 your house banks hey we're gonna uh take your house weirdos oh yes okay sir so sorry sir uh and then finally so perfect sean kelly uh tweeted uh one of the big problems this is sean kelly tweeted one of the big problems, this is Sean Kelly tweeted. One of the big problems with dark and gritty Batman movies is that the people writing them can't craft a mystery. That's so complex. Only Batman can solve it. So Batman's superpower ends up being the ability to violate people's constitutional rights.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Um, that seems to be the case. Uh, you can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist
Starting point is 01:19:28 on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Batman's a fantasy. Batman's a fantasy.
Starting point is 01:19:40 That's why he can do that. It's okay. No, it's not, man. No, it's not that, Billy. You ain't no fantasy. It's real to me, man. I know he is, even in fictional, he's a real person with no actual super,
Starting point is 01:19:55 but he is still a fantasy. Alright. Fair enough. You guys gotta have fun with it. I think this will be Billy's last episode on the Daily Take. It's safe to say. That kind of boat rocking. You know what?
Starting point is 01:20:09 And I'm okay with that. I told them Batman wasn't real. Yeah, you're like, that was so weird. I thought Jack and Miles were cool. I said Batman was a fantasy, and they tried to cancel me. What the fuck is wrong with them? I mean, I was joking, but I was also being serious. But I mean, it's true. It also being serious but I mean it's true
Starting point is 01:20:25 it is true though it's weird most important story of our lifetime since the bible Billy those are guys in suits near your studio those are guys and those are not real dudes
Starting point is 01:20:41 you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as this song, We Ride Out on Miles.
Starting point is 01:21:02 What are we riding out on today? This is a track from King Princess, and just a wonderful kind of housey track. This is called Hit the Back, but it's a Channel 3 remix. And again, you know, still getting into that weekend. It's hump day, so just get your shoulders popping. And yeah, just like Billy knows, he's waving the bag of fun we all know it's we're going to get through the week together so let this energy uh track power you the rest of the week all right day get through it well the
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