The Daily Zeitgeist - Robert Mueller’s Report, Who Run The World (Netflix) 4.19.19

Episode Date: April 19, 2019

In episode 374, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Alyssa Sabo to discuss why Beyoncé went to Netflix, a LOT about the heavily-redacted Mueller report, Flint getting a glimmer of hope, AMI selling... the National Enquirer, and more!FOOTNOTES:1. Netflix Got Beyoncé’s Homecoming by Paying So Much Money2. READ: The Mueller Report, With Redactions3. Flint Receives $77 Million to Fund New Water Projects4. The National Enquirer is being sold for $100 million to James Cohen, CEO of Hudson News5. Usher - I Don't Know Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:38 The John Daly Peppermint. The Peppermint. Ah, so good. Anyways, nobody knows what we're talking about. But we are thrilled to have in our third seat, first-time guest, hilarious comedian, Alyssa Sabo. Hello. Welcome. Hi, Alyssa.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I feel right at home here. I love the Red Hot Chili Peppers. You do? Really? No. Oh, hell yeah. You're not a peppermint? No, but I do like that one song.
Starting point is 00:04:02 And after I parallel park successfully, I always play it. The one where it's like, Hey, listen, what else? It's just like a good one. You just have that queued up. Always. Excuse me, guys. That spot opened.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Hold on. Let me get this ready real quick in case I nail it. Okay. No, someone just got the spot. All right, then. That's why I'm always late. Yeah. And missing parking spots.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Kiedis' lyrics really stepped it up a notch in the nonsense realm. Oh, yeah. After a while, it just started being sounds. He was all energy anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all we came for. Energy and shirtlessness. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Yeah. Alyssa, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today. Obviously, we're talking about Beyonce. Yeah. Because some people in our office actually saw the documentary. Neither of us. I'm keeping it holy for my holiday on 420 gonna light some candles light
Starting point is 00:05:06 some L's and some candelas for Santa Beyonce uh-huh and we're gonna talk about how her show ended up on Netflix we're gonna talk about the Mueller Mueller report the Mueller what's that that came out apparently that came out, apparently. It's like this novel, I guess. 400-something pages. That's what everybody was talking about. It's like, lame liberal people Harry Potter release day today.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Everyone's just fucking blowing through this Mueller report. And the Washington Post has given us some key findings. It's pretty interesting. It's not super revealing. There's no bombshells that are unexpected. There are plenty of bombshells that we already knew about.
Starting point is 00:05:54 So we're going to talk about all that shit for a little while. Then we're going to talk about Flint finally getting a glimmer of hope. And AMI selling the National Enquirer and maybe some Netflix numbers? Netflix is kind of, they're like, we don't give a fuck anymore. We're going to start publishing our numbers. So now we have some insight.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Give all the numbers out. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like selectively. Yeah, that's true. But hey, whatever. I mean, the numbers they give out
Starting point is 00:06:19 are impressive in terms of- They always are. Netflix is really out here in the zeitgeist, apparently. But first, Alyssa, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are as a human being?
Starting point is 00:06:36 Good. I asked that with a lot of conviction this time. That was very different. That's not usable for me. She's a first-time guest. I know. You're treating this like NPR, though. Yeah, that revealing about me as a human being and now i feel like my answer is really dumb i'm gonna say helga pataki who's like a character from hey arnold yeah i'm just always looking up pics mainly just like i like to look up like old 90s shows
Starting point is 00:07:01 and then try to like make memes based on like stills. I will tell you this, Helga Space, the first autocomplete is Helga Pataki. Perfect. Yeah. She's great. She is an icon. She really is. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:16 When it comes to Helgas. Wasn't she the one who I called him football head? Yeah. Who called him football head? That was Helga. Well, Helga is just such a like complex character. Oh, really? And like if you really dig into it
Starting point is 00:07:25 like her mom was an alcoholic her dad was just like abusive wait really yes her mom was an alcoholic like straight up straight up
Starting point is 00:07:34 she was like I'm gonna have another smoothie like that's how her mom talked and we're just supposed to like watch that it was just smoothies that she had a Jamba Juice problem she was an alcoholic she was very like Helga was neglected some smoothies? That she had a Jamba Juice problem? It was an alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:07:45 She was very, like Helga was neglected. And that's why like. She was acting out. Lately, I've just been on a Helga Pataki kick. All right. Because. So you stay in Helga. I stay in Helga.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Okay. And she was kind of the main antagonist slash anti-villain. Yeah. And she was in love. HeyArnold.fandom.wiki is telling me. Yeah, yeah. I love. HeyArnold.fandom.wiki is telling me. Yeah, yeah. I love you. HeyArnold.fandom.wiki.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Yes. Yeah, honestly, my references are pretty insane. But no, Helga was in love with Arnold. And so she just like, but she didn't know how to express that. Right, because she grew up looking at a very twisted version and depiction of love in her own home. Of course. So she was naturally just acting that out in her real life. And completely unaware of the subconscious effect of the trauma she was experiencing in her own household i mean i really do connect with this
Starting point is 00:08:27 character yeah but also completely on point because his head was shaped was a football so she's like saying the thing we were all thinking like wait that dude's head is a football so what she was tactless right she had a good eye though that's right that's right motherfucker had a football head good eye good mind for metaphor uh she's right. Motherfucker had a football head. Good eye, good mind for metaphor. She's probably going places when you think about it. She's like a poet. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:49 What is something you think is overrated? I think sarcasm. I mean, I don't know if people are as into it anymore as they were. Are people still into it? Are they? But if they are, stop. Because it's just like, it's not funny. You're just being like mean but
Starting point is 00:09:06 you're trying to be funny i don't like sarcasm and i don't get it in what way like in people performing stand-up and people just interacting thinking they're funny and people yeah okay in general interactions people like oh i can't even think of a thing they're saying. You sounded like the grape stomping lady. Like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, I can't, oh, I can't. I can't breathe. Okay. No, but like, you know what I mean. Give me a recent example.
Starting point is 00:09:33 What's something that happened recently where you're like, that's not it. Okay. You sound like you're being sarcastic. Okay, Miles. I'll come up with a recent example. Okay, I was going to say sarcasm, but then I was also going to, like my other answer to what's overrated is nihilism. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Wow. Wow, you're going big. But stick with sarcasm. I think that's a good one because I do think, like that was a big deal like for Generation X. I only spoke sarcastically from 1990 to 19, fuck it, to 2001. After 9-11, I knocked it off.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And 9-11 really took the sarcasm out of your... Yeah, I was like, this ain't it anymore. We got bigger problems. Right, right. Now, full earnesty. Oh, yes. Up and down. Yes, I've noticed that.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Earnest goes to prison. I guess with sarcasm, it's mainly people that... It's not necessarily with comedians with sarcasm it's mainly people that, it's not necessarily with like comedians using sarcasm. It's more just like regular folks who are like,
Starting point is 00:10:31 you know what I mean, like trying to be funny. And I just like hate that. Bartenders don't need it. Yeah, we don't need it. And I'm trying to think of like an example. I need an example.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Yeah, I know. Oh, this is one where like this happens, servers do this a lot. And look, I get it. You can do whatever the fuck you got to do. You got to get through your day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:47 But there'll be times where I'll say like, do you mind if I could get some cracked black pepper for this thing? And they go, no. Yeah. And you're like, what? And they're like, no, be right back. I'm just kidding. And I'm like, yo, that was jarring for a second because I was like, are you a fucking asshole?
Starting point is 00:11:01 Yes. I mind miles. Yes. I'm an asshole. It would ruin my day yeah oh god no you can't have that right no you can't actually uh sure i think it's all it's all in the delivery but throughout the app i might have a real life like example okay if it comes to me i'll be like oh it came to me cool cool i think it's more like in uh like transactions
Starting point is 00:11:25 anything dealing with money i don't need sarcasm if i'm a customer right you know like or the other one i'll eat everything on the plate oh you really hated the meal huh right yeah yeah yeah yeah that's a good one because then i'm supposed to be like what do you want me to say to that right no i liked it and act like i don't get it. Yeah, just correct them. Or just play along. I think earnestly correcting people's sarcasm is a good way of going forward. Just earnestly. No, I did actually really like it. That's why I ate all of the food.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Oh, no, was it not clear? Moving forward. The food that was on the plate has actually entered my digestive system. Wait, what did you think happened to all the food that was on the plate? Just really follow through. No, I was being, it was a joke. Anyway, I got a lot of tables, man. What is something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:12:12 Soup. Okay. Yeah. Wow. This comes through sometimes. Yeah, this does come through sometimes. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Go on. Your 60 seconds starts now. I think that soup is one of the greatest inventions of all time. 55 seconds. Because it's so delicious. Not only is it nourishing, but it like warms your soul. And it has like, you can get, you know, like vegetable soup, you can get chicken soup, you can get noodles in there.
Starting point is 00:12:39 It's got every food group is in there. And it's like, it's just everything. And you don't have to worry about like eating like, oh, here's my mashed potatoes. Here's my broccoli. And it's just everything and you don't have to worry about eating like, oh here's my mashed potatoes, here's my broccoli. It's just like one scoop in your mouth, boom. Everything's mixed together. You like casseroles? Yes. Big casserole head.
Starting point is 00:12:54 You like everything mixed for you. You like a big slop plate. I like it all mixed up. That's like Super Producer Nick Stumpf likes a big bowl of just something he's it's ill-defined and can just be forked into his mouth. But even like soup is just such a
Starting point is 00:13:09 I always like recommend like when I used to be going on a lot of online dates like I'll be like how about we get soup? Like over Skype? Online dates yeah. I go on Skype dates and I'm like let's Skype and eat soup. And they're like what soup do you have? What can are you opening? Now you like a well executed soup that you get at a restaurant and not a canned soup?
Starting point is 00:13:28 I'll do either. You like canned soup? Yeah. Okay. Top three soups. Go. Chicken tortilla, chicken noodle, vegetable, potato. Vegetable, potato.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I don't think you've ever had soup. Hold on. Let me check with the judges really quick. Judges. No, no, no. Oh, I had soup. Vegetable potato. Oh, I had soup.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Oh, I had soup. Oh, you don't even know. Oh, you wouldn't believe. Oh, you should see my... Ah, damn. I have a whole other account on IG. It got deactivated for so much soup content. This is like too much.
Starting point is 00:14:02 What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Okay. This is tough, you know? But I think a lot of people say geniuses are messy. And I would have to debunk that because I am not a genius and I am messy. The logic holds up. That's a quick debunk.
Starting point is 00:14:24 You know, we don't really need to get into it but I think that people just say that because they're like oh yeah like I'm messy but like that's because I'm smart
Starting point is 00:14:31 because I'm a genius no you're not just get your shit together they're like you're just really good at excuses yeah yeah I think it's completely
Starting point is 00:14:37 unrelated yeah I also think maybe geniuses are a little bit more likely to be assholes because they can get away with it. And so it's the same thing as like, you know, why rich people are famous people are assholes is because they can be.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Or like if you're hot. Right. Yeah. Hot people are probably messy. Yeah. But like at the same time. Watch out for a hot rich genius. It's better to not be messy.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Right. Yeah. And you're talking about messy like just like talking shit about people constantly. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Just like a messy bitch. Yeah. Just so're talking about messy, like just like talking shit about people constantly, right? Yes. Yeah, just being a messy bitch. Just being a messy bitch. Right, yeah, yeah. Lipstick all over, hair a mess.
Starting point is 00:15:13 And being like, I don't know if you've heard. Shirt on tongue. Like Gerald thinks he's the father. He's not. Yeah. Anyway, but I don't know. Just ask the dude who works at her shift at Dick's Sporting Goods
Starting point is 00:15:23 because he's giving her that D. That sounds interesting. Yeah. Wait, why don't you think you're a genius? And also, important thing after many TED Talks I've watched, it's better to say we have a genius. A genius. That's what it used to be, right? And then it slowly became more egocentric where we began to identify as the genius versus being visited by a genius yeah and
Starting point is 00:15:46 having a genius yeah visited by a genius or you know it comes to you you know what i mean versus putting yourself the pressure on yourself creatively to be like i'm all right here where is it right just hold yourself up let the shit flow yeah which is how geniuses think about their work or tend to think about their work is they're like God is speaking through me or like the work is speaking through me. I got to get the signal clear as day as Andre 3000 would say.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Totally. I mean, maybe I am a genius. Hell yeah. No, no. I knew you guys were going to say that that's so nice of you
Starting point is 00:16:15 but like I'm very self-deprecating. I know. But you're funny. I like your tweets. Oh, thank you. I think there's something interesting there. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Don't sell yourself short. You might be a genius. You might have a genius. I got therapy on Monday. My therapist canceled this Monday. Oh, great. All messy people. I think there's something interesting there. Thank you. Don't sell yourself short. You might be a genius. You might have a genius. I go to therapy on Monday. My therapist canceled this Monday. Oh, great. All messy people. I'll take the money.
Starting point is 00:16:29 We can turn the mics off and we can go right in. And then you're going to have to hear all my shortcomings too, though. I love it. But being neat is probably just generally better than being messy, I would say. Yeah, just be neat. I know. You know, keep things in order. I mean, don't if you can't be, but I just wish I was.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I'm organized confusion mess oh yeah you should man yeah yeah people think they're like oh i bet miles and jack are so cool yo you see our desks man uh tonight you see my go like. And I was like killing roaches with my shoe on the desk. I'm like, get back in here. Yeah. But we know where everything is on that desk. Yeah, I know where everything is. Including the roaches.
Starting point is 00:17:14 I know where they are. And everything's where it's actually supposed to be because then I know where it is. Okay? Yeah. And Zeitgang, send in whatever excuses, rationalizations you've made for being messy like that one, the time-honored one. I know it looks a mess, butizations you've made for being messy. Like that one, the time honored one. I know it looks a mess, but I know where everything is. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Yeah. And it's like, really, Subtext? I'm too fucking lazy to clean this shit up. Because also, I'm not bothered by it, so it doesn't matter to me. Sorry. Yeah. And I mean, here's the thing, though. I'm not saying you got to be like Marie Kondo clean.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Right. You know what I mean? I'm just saying. She has a type of genius yeah that's too much that's too much clean yeah yeah even my mom who's japanese was like relax right uh it was you know just keep your stuff just keep everything because you never know you never know somebody might need it totally and and that could that thing might be worth something later on yeah are the rationalizations that would always come to mind.
Starting point is 00:18:06 All right, let's talk about Beyonce. She released her documentary a couple days back on Netflix, already a hit. People are regularly sobbing as they react to it on social media. Lacey Mosley, she was sobbing. Yeah. Sophie, Superdude Sophie, sobbing. Sophie, Superdude Sophie, sobbing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Apparently it's what I hoped it would be, which is just like an execution, a really great execution of a concert film. It's not like the story of the making of the concert. It's just like Well, it's a little bit of everything, but yeah, but a good emphasis on the show because that was really what the whole spectacle was. That's the thing I
Starting point is 00:18:43 wished I had been there for and they seemed to be trying to bring you what the experience i mean i know you're working hard on that time machine man i am it may it may work out yeah but yeah i mean i thought oh man i'm i'm really excited because i i'm just gonna blow my sound system out with this thing uh because i'm also a marching band nerd so like hearing all the drumline shit, I'm like, oh, here we go. Yeah. Rocking the tenors and everything in this. But yeah, the thing about that documentary was like when you kind of look at Beyonce's body of work
Starting point is 00:19:12 for things that have aired on TV or cable or whatever, it's always been HBO, baby. You know what I mean? 2013, there was Life is But a Dream. That was all HBO. Lemonade, 2016, HBO. So I felt like naturally, when it was was first announced my first thing was like wait why not hbo that's weird and then of course we find out it's because netflix as we know i think what they had like a
Starting point is 00:19:37 18 million 18 billion dollar what was their content budget for this like 15 billion dollars they're using their time-honored strategy of just blowing people out with their offer of being just exponentially larger. I was recently watching, to get prepared for this, I've been going through, and there's a thing on YouTube about
Starting point is 00:19:57 Destiny's Child. So I'm prepping for it. I was watching that. They could have put it on YouTube. It's really bad quality because it's like a VHS thing. I heard YouTube came in with a strong $15 offer. And they were like, but we'll split the CPMs with you.
Starting point is 00:20:14 We'll get PewDiePie to cross promote and T-Series. Right. It'll live on Vivo. But yeah, I mean, I think like, again,
Starting point is 00:20:24 Netflix andbo declined to comment when people were like asking about specifics but a lot of people who are familiar were like yeah there were discussions with hbo then netflix came in and something happened and people are safely assuming that that was because of you know beyonce is about her money right and she she followed the trail there uh and super producer nick stump uh who you guys can't hear but ah his voice in our ear amazing he posits this theory yeah so his theory is that apparently uh he watched the documentary last night wept like a baby he said uh uh he said that uh she was actually rehearsing the show itself for eight months, and there were like three sound stages and just an insane amount of work and probably budget went into the show in the first place.
Starting point is 00:21:13 So his theory is that she kind of had to go with the highest bidder because she maybe had a deal in the first place, and that's why she was able to put such a show on for the people of Coachella. I'm sure at some point, too, that's part of the fee that she negotiates with the festival, too. She's like, you want a show? Right. You want me in the show? Yeah. Well, I will go in the lab for eight months with 300 people and I will give you a show. But that is going to cost $9 million or whatever the hell it was.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Anyway, I think either way, yes, that makes sense because show is itself is like nothing coachella has ever seen yeah um but another thing that nick is still crying yeah you'd think that he would have gotten over it yeah by now but that computer keyboard is ruined yeah it's like crazy like it's coachella already happened this year but nobody knows what's going on. We're still thinking about last year. Two years ago, right? Yeah, two years ago. No, no, no, it was last year. Yeah, it was last year.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Last year. We're still talking and tweeting about that, which is so cool to me. Also, I love that she released it around the same time as Coachella. She's like, you know, I know that Coachella's happening, but let's not forget what happened last year.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Right. Like, we don't. We're never going to forget. Well, it's cool. They are treating it like a historical moment because they still have the setup that you can just walk by and look at. Like, man, that's where it all happened. That's where it happened. That's where it went down.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Wait, they do? Yeah. You can go look at the set this year at Coachella. It's just like this. The Beyonce set? Yeah, those stairs. Oh, shit. I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:22:44 It's iconic. At Coachella, yeah. I didn't know we were up at Coachella. Why didn't you post that on your stories? You've posted everything else from you at Coachella this weekend. I know. I'm sorry. Okay. Because I actually have a short film that I'm editing right now that features me kind of putting together a little choreographed number.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Asking people who everyone is at all the performances, who's this? What's ASAP? What? All right. I would know who ASAP. You'd know, yeah. But no, again, just to go back to Netflix, their model has been,
Starting point is 00:23:15 they point to a lot of the other deals that Netflix has been behind. So they've been snagging up all kinds of projects for top dollar. The Springsteen on Broadway thing They've been snagging up all kinds of projects for top dollar. The Springsteen on Broadway thing went for reportedly more than $20 million. Wow. The stand-up comedy specials by Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle.
Starting point is 00:23:36 The Chris Rock one, $40 million deal. And that was just one? I think so. The Dave Chappelle was a few. It was like three, right? Yeah, three shows. That one was $60 million. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:23:47 So, I mean, that's, again, we're always like, why are you guys are always running in the red? Right. But I guess they'll figure out how to- They're doing the Amazon thing, man. Just spend all the money. Race to the bottom, which is the next top of the next thing. Right. Just put everybody out of business except Disney.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Yeah. It's going to be Netflix and Disney in the end. Oh, no. All right, guys. We've been delaying because I was just finishing up, and I'm done reading the Mueller report, so we can move on to that after this quick break. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist
Starting point is 00:24:28 who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job?
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Starting point is 00:27:55 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And whoo, what a page turner, that Mueller report. I haven't read a single word of it. Yeah, you just read the cover, and then you said you read the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Yeah, but the cover is, you know, the important stuff. No, I'm just- Yeah, the Mueller report by Robert S. Mueller. I mean, that tells you everything you need to know. But I've been basically getting other people's takes on what is inside the report. I'm not super surprised by anything in here. I mean, the Washington Post summarized their main takeaways or the key findings as Trump, when told of appointment of special counsel Mueller, said, this is the end of my presidency. A little bit more was said.
Starting point is 00:29:02 He also said, I'm fucked. This is the end. This is terrible. This is the end this is terrible this is the end of my presidency this is the worst thing that's ever happened to me that's a quote yes those are those that's all quotes from somebody who was in the meeting uh substantial evidence supports comey over trump in account of flynn meeting that's something that kind of keeps coming back is that it seems like anytime it was like Trump's word versus Comey, Trump's word versus the media, Mueller's report seems to side with the people who aren't Trump
Starting point is 00:29:32 in basically all cases. Yeah. I mean, I think if we take it sort of grain by grain, right, how the day unfolded, William Barr came out first saying, oh, y'all get the Mueller report, first saying, oh, y'all get the Mueller report, but on CDs. What the fuck? Who the fuck has CD drives anymore? Which caused a scramble of congressional staffers to try and locate a PC that had a working CD-ROM drive. The last open Radio Shack? Yeah, seriously.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Oh my God. They're like trying to put it in their car stereo and they're like, I don't know. So that was sort of the first funny part, which I don't know if that was intentional or not. I mean, I feel like there are such more. There are many more efficient ways to distribute a document than putting it on a CD-ROM. But hey, maybe that's just the world William Barr is from. And that's all his compact Presario computer would do. So then he had that press conference, which was by far the most disgusting fuckery fest ever. It was the Coachella fuckery right there, the main stage, the headliner.
Starting point is 00:30:29 William Barr comes out and basically subverts his own role as being the attorney general, which is supposed to be an independent law enforcement official in the government. And basically just comes out and being like Trump's defense lawyer. Yeah. And defending everything and saying like, look, you know, he was under a lot of pressure and this is like unprecedented and he may have acted out, but that wasn't his intent. That's why we're not like really, it doesn't feel like obstruction. It was very, a true distortion of what is actually in the report because he also goes
Starting point is 00:31:01 on to say things like the White House fully cooperated in good faith with this entire investigation oh that's false yeah i mean that's like demonstrably false like given the main conclusions of the of the report like muller is like yeah we couldn't get the president to like tell us anything or sit down for an interview the only reason we're releasing this now is because we knew we didn't want to like an extended court battle over a subpoena, which is a little weird. I find that a little weird just because we've always talked about how there was this standard for how quickly this investigation should have been over and passed special counsel investigations. And this was insanely quick for the amount of actual indictments that were happening. Yeah. Well, there's actual, you know, because so much shit was just happening quick for the amount of like actual indictments that were happening.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah. Well, there's actual, you know, because so much shit was just happening out in the open. Right. Like, whoa, I just did my investigation on Twitter. Right. Came to these conclusions. Right. You know, and going on to the cooperation thing.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I mean, we saw over and over wacky skunk drunk Rudy Giuliani on TV being like, he's not going to testify. It's going to be a perjury trap. They're saying like that's not why they're going to cooperate. But when you're trying to investigate something like obstruction of justice, you kind of need to interview the subject or the target of the investigation because how else can you establish their intent to know where they're headed with this? But when they're sort of leaning back and like, oh, no, we're good.
Starting point is 00:32:24 We'll just do some written answers that the lawyers will come up with, not Donald Trump. There were many levels where they could have cooperated and they did it. And I think the biggest thing, you know, in the report that Robert Mueller states up front definitively saying that because of Department of Justice guidelines, you know, you can't indict a sitting president. That's just sort of the belief in the DOJ. So I'm working through a narrow framework from there. And I can't necessarily say, oh, this is chargeable or these things are happening because of the sheer fact that I can't even come to that conclusion legally or by the guidelines. So a lot of that was used for William Barr, especially to begin to walk this line of like, well, they didn't find these things guilty on all these things without betraying the fact that the DOJ is also really unable to bring those charges or in a position where they can't really resolve those issues.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Right. And then Robert Mueller goes on to say that he doesn't really buy that argument either. Right. But so this is the president is immune. he doesn't really buy that argument either. Right. But so this is the president is immune. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Because I think if he was going to keep it, you know, 100000 percent with everybody, he would say if I was dealing with if this was a private citizen, I would be like, oh, this is obstruction of justice or straight up. Yeah. I mean, the quote is on obstruction of justice. The quote is, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the president clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we were unable to reach that judgment.
Starting point is 00:33:53 So basically he's kicking it to Congress and there, I mean, he's really putting like suggesting that Congress like do a thorough investigation and yeah and also he goes on to the sort of cooperation thing that william barr was trumpeting like oh they were they were so they were so cooperative yeah um was that he even in the report says that officials in the administration and other people he interviewed that were close to trump repeatedly lied to him and congress and it was materially affecting the investigation. So that's not cooperating either. And there was just so many moments. I guess the deal is,
Starting point is 00:34:31 everybody from watching the president's behavior knew something was up. And the report sort of confirms a lot of the things that had been reported, just sort of without his sort of official determination about whether or not it violated a very specific criminal statute. But there's also a lot where we're learning a lot. I mean, we've been learning a lot about William Barr too, and his role of going from, hey, this guy might be an upstanding dude. He's like OG or whatever too. That summary was weird to now like, oh, you're in the pocket're in the pocket right now. Yeah. That's you. And not in the improv pocket where you're like just in the moment. Dude, no, not even like, not even if you're a rhythm section, dude, just in that pocket,
Starting point is 00:35:12 just grooving so hard. He's in the pocket of the president. Yes. President's big pocket. One of the worst, yeah. One of the worst pockets to be in, like top five worst pockets to be in. This report reminds me of like something like in debate class in high school i used to like make up stats i feel like there's something about it that's like
Starting point is 00:35:29 a high school like i was just like oh i'm gonna make this stat up like it's just bars report of the report yeah yeah well and the other thing too that is also described you know in the the william barr letter you know said that oh you know ro oh, Robert Mueller sort of left it up to the attorney general to determine whether or not these obstruction charges should be brought. And that completely contradicts what Mueller wrote, because he was just saying, no, I'm not making that determination because of DOJ guidelines. But William Barr completely distorted that and said, yeah, I mean, he left it up to me and therefore I'm saying not guilty. So, you know, let's party it up. Free Cosby. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's, we've talked before. There's a lot of smoke. Would the report find fire? And the report basically reaches the conclusion that
Starting point is 00:36:16 yes, a lot of smoke. They described the smoke in great detail. And then they say they never found evidence of fire within this like very specific parameters that they define at the outset, which is a criminal level conspiracy. But then they also describe the fact that the president was actively obstructing their investigation into whether there was fire. they suggest that that has some bearing on the investigation's inability to find fire because they include the shit out of all the details of him obstructing justice like his uh telling mcgann his attorney to fire muller yeah and tell him literally using the words muller has to go yeah and saying yo go to rod rosenstein and tell this man Mueller has to go. And Don McGahn, because he's like one of the actual, I guess an actual lawyer, he freaked out. He called his own personal lawyer when that was told to him because he was like,
Starting point is 00:37:13 he realized, oh, I'm being asked to do something that I believe is criminal. So I'm contacting my lawyer. After that, in the reported states, he went to the White House, packed his shit up and told Reince Priebus, I can't do this crazy shit. He's asked me to do some crazy shit and didn't specifically tell him, which suggests that he didn't want to actually fully describe the criminal behavior just to keep Priebus insulated from knowing or whatever. But I'm sure everybody knew. But then he was talked into staying eventually. Right. eventually right and a lot of the other things too when you talk about obstruction right there's a lot to say that you know the muller report says there were numerous times where people could have
Starting point is 00:37:48 obstructed justice but the the aides and officials around trump that were asked to do them never followed through with his his requests right never actually amounted to the thing that would have been full-blown obstruction of justice and so he was basically being saved by people who just weren't willing to fully light that fire. Yeah, this reminded me of that fire festival documentary, because when we were talking about that, we were like, the reason that this was such a disaster is because it was a guy with a really bad idea who had very competent, like incredibly motivated people working for him, who were constantly executing everything that he told them to do. And so that kept happening until the very end when it was like, ah, shit,
Starting point is 00:38:31 we can't pull it off. But it looked like we might be able to because we kept executing on this terrible idea. This was the opposite of that. This was an argument for just not doing what your boss tells you to because it ends up saving the country right because so many of these things that he tells people to do would have caused a fucking constitutional crisis well we already are though right but it would have been i mean yeah but if he had fired more like yeah uh it would have been so much worse for him had mcgann done what he told him to do uh and it would have been worse for the country. Yeah. And again, back to even the press conference that Barr had, and it was so,
Starting point is 00:39:11 they were so cynical, right? Because they knew they're like, let's do the press conference. I'm going to say all this hot shit up at the podium. Rod Rosenstein, you go pretend to be a checked out mannequin, and we'll talk up there, and I'll say all the things- He looks like a dummy. Like a- Ventriloquist dummy. Yeah, ventriloquist dummy. Have people made that point before? pretend to be a checked out mannequin and we'll talk up there and i'll say all the things uh dummy like a ventriloquist dummy yeah ventriloquist dummy have people made that point before no but i think you should make that a t-shirt okay um so uh when he goes up there you know he he did all the trump lines right no obstruction basically said no collusion and in this instance he was very intentional uh by conflating collusion, you know, a coordinated activity for a common goal with conspiracy, which is a very narrowly defined crime.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And yes, they were not able to find anything that was chargeable for a conspiracy charge. coordinating towards a common goal, I think is completely absurd because you have all kinds of information like Paul Manafort briefing, Constantine Kalimnik, who the FBI has and other intelligence sources have identified as somebody who has very close ties to Russian intelligence, if not in Russian intelligence himself. Okay. So that's someone interacting with someone in intelligence, giving this person things like messaging that they're going to be using in the campaign, the state of the campaign, internal polling data, and importantly, battleground states that they identified that they felt were going to be good pickups with just sort of just general electoral college math.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Because when you're doing, when you think about, right, the popular vote was lost. Right. But the sheer amount of like 80,000 votes spread over three states that deliver the electoral college votes. And these are the states that people like Paul Manafort are telling Russian intelligence, like, we may want to keep an eye on that. Oh, interesting. And there's also numerous studies talking about the strategy of Russian intelligence
Starting point is 00:41:00 to go after what they call Clinton defector voters, people who were becoming disillusioned with what they were hearing about Hillary Clinton or just the Democratic Party that were possible toss-ups to be swayed into voting for a third party candidate or maybe Trump himself, but people that you could drive a wedge in between. They were very specific about those people. So it's like coordination, but not criminal conspiracy, essentially? Well, because they don't have something like, hi, I'm Paul Manafort from the trump campaign you are russian intelligence i would like for you to do this on our behalf so we can win the election and then when we win we will give you this and this is our agreement it's just not you know they this is the thing where we look that we are kind of
Starting point is 00:41:39 operating in an era where we don't have the laws to actually prevent these kinds of things because everything was going in this what a lot of pundits were calling lawful but awful behavior right and because it's lawful or technically you know there's no they're not violating specific laws they're they're operating in this murky gray area and doing shit like this right i mean this raises the question like the thing that i was mentioning earlier, the fact that they just kind of halfway, like at this early point relative to other special counsel investigations, they just cut it short and we're like, I don't know. But not saying specifically Congress should determine this. It feels almost like Mueller and possibly Barr were thinking about the constitutional crisis, that this would be terrible for the country type thing, and just let the facts speak for themselves, let the people decide almost like that there's an election coming up why don't we just like put all the facts out there and let
Starting point is 00:42:50 people decide and maybe muller wasn't taking into account that you know bar would be out here being like well the fake news media was driving trump crazy and that's why he was behaving this way. I don't know. It seems like Mueller had like there's something to his decision to do this that is like, why is it so incomplete? Why didn't you follow through on some of the stuff where like past special counsel investigations did follow through like all the way to getting detailed descriptions of the president getting a blow job like why did they just kind of cut it off at this point um is is he thinking congress is going to just be up to the task i think yeah that combined with the fact as he stated it he hit he hit a wall because so many people were lying to him too, which is like, he's like, I literally can't even get useful information because these people are lying
Starting point is 00:43:48 to my face and I know they're lying, but I can't compel, I can't put them like under oath. Yeah. Which is, and again, those are suggested. Oh,
Starting point is 00:43:55 cause Congress can. Right. And then it's like, oh, can you pull up with that same energy when you're under oath? Yeah. And then we'll see, but they might not be able to.
Starting point is 00:44:02 So they are trying to get Mueller to testify. Yeah. Because they want to hear from him. Cause they're going going to say like so are you saying they'll probably i mean if they were if it was me right someone who has no business being up there talking to robert muller i'd be like my man let's pretend the president is a regular private citizen with what you saw would you charge this person with obstruction of justice is the only thing that's in the way is the fact that he's a sitting president and then you'd be like uh yes right then i'd be like right well now let's figure something out but again what would you say then i would be like yo my man uh it's like the epic scene you want to smoke a backwood oh my gosh get him in there it would be called legally blunt
Starting point is 00:44:41 and i'm just fucking high as shit on the hill. But yeah, I mean, there's so, again, another interesting thing, right? Are there so many moments where we're talking about this gray area, right? Where like Paul Manafort even telling Rick Gates, hey, don't fucking say anything. Just stay strong. Keep your head low. Don't cooperate. Because I heard from the administration, they're going to take care of us.
Starting point is 00:45:05 They're going to take care of us. They're going to take care of us. And then Rick Gates even asked, so did they mention a pardon? No, I didn't mention a pardon. I just said, look, we're good. They're going to take care of us, which is fine because we're great. On wax, you don't see a transaction happening, but it's that mob shit. It's like saying, it's like, yeah, man, I hope you don't get some concrete cinder block shoes and fall off the pier. Wait, so are you saying you're going to kill somebody?
Starting point is 00:45:27 No, I'm just saying I hope nobody comes to your house to size your feet for some cement shoes. Because that would be uncomfortable? I don't know. Okay. Is death uncomfortable? I mean, I don't know. Wait, wait, wait. Do you have orthotic insoles?
Starting point is 00:45:43 There's a lot of technicality shit. Like Super Producer Nick was also pointing out that if Guccifer had released the hacked material himself. Or herself. Or herself. It's not gender Guccifer to my help. That would have been one thing, but because it was like a secondhand WikiLeaks
Starting point is 00:46:04 that was doing it, then it wasn't collusion or it wasn't a criminal conspiracy. So I think to that is sort of like, okay, let's put a middle person in front of the illegal Russian intelligence hacking operation of Guccifer. Right. Use WikiLeaks as like the smoke screen because then as like like a journalist, you can you can publish information you receive. It doesn't matter how it's obtained. Right. So if it's just Guccifer, Guccifer, like hacking material and then releasing it and Trump was coordinating with him, it would have been a criminal conspiracy or could have been a criminal conspiracy or it could have been a criminal conspiracy but because it was wiki leaks who there's all this shit about whether they are should be considered journalists and like freedom of press protections uh you know you have this second party so therefore it's like you know everybody was willing to print this stuff there's a second party so it's not a crime
Starting point is 00:47:00 well what there's in the report right because trump himself knew that there were further leaks coming before other people knew and that's in the report where there was a trip to like la guardia airport or something and he's on the phone uh and like it's like redacted redacted after the call trump said that there would be like further leaks coming up and like you know trying to plan you know strategy around that yeah so but i guess if they're coordinating with wiki leaks then you can be like i don't know it's like wiki leaks right but if you're not if you're coordinating with if you got gucifer and your mentions and your dms yeah i mean i just wish gucifer was just out here had the instagram account just said link in bio check it out i got
Starting point is 00:47:38 the hacked emails um yeah so i mean there's a lot of stuff to chase down here and to continue that's going to continue developing. We might be doing an episode, a special episode of Behind the Bastards with Robert Evans to kind of look into this stuff and William Barr in the not too distant future. So stay tuned for that. But I guess, you know, with all this information coming, we got the report finally, you know, whatever. There's huge chunks that are fully blacked out. The things that are clear, we'll have to see what Congress does with this. What Robert Mueller says if he comes to testify. What if they can get William Barr to answer some more questions.
Starting point is 00:48:17 And really that we still just don't know where we are with all of this. We just don't know. I mean, what we do know is that there was some terrible shit going on. What we don't know is how the fuck are they going to handle this? I mean, just real quick, I just want to read specific descriptions
Starting point is 00:48:36 from the report. Manafort told Gates it was stupid to plead because he had spoken to the president's personal attorney and they were going to take care of us. Despite telling aides he did not like Manafort, Trump repeatedly voiced sympathy for Manafort and talked about the fact that they did not want him to flip.
Starting point is 00:48:54 There's evidence Trump's actions had potential to influence Manafort's decision whether to cooperate. Evidence concerning the president's conduct toward Manafort indicates that the president intended to encourage Manafort to not cooperate with the government. The president's comments also could have been intended to continue sending a message to Manafort that a pardon was possible.
Starting point is 00:49:13 That is a description of obstruction of justice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, we're dealing, like Robert Mueller says up top, look, I'm fucking handcuffed here by guidelines. There are bylaws and things that say a sitting president can't be indicted. So I'm working already being like, OK, so I can only like just blow the whistle so loud that maybe somebody will pick it up. Right. Do we know, Miles?
Starting point is 00:49:36 I know there are certain things we just don't know. Is one of those things whether when Mueller gets in front of Congress, will he be just unleashed or is he still going to be like this demure special counsel? He's going to be measured. And I'm sure. I mean, he can't reveal things that were redacted or anything, obviously. But I'm sure they can ask what his intention was, like by saying, explain this sentence to me. Right. And then parse through that.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I'm sure he can actually explain that. Right. Because he's just saying, well, this is what I found. sentence to me right and then parse through that i'm sure he can actually explain that right because he's just saying well this is what i found he's and then just like he says in the thing but i can't come to conclusions on the criminality of it because of the existing guidelines i'm wanting to be unhinged yeah i know like just make a mess um so you know again i think it just confirms everything that we saw out in the open when we're like, this looks like obstruction. But really, I think I hope more people in the press are really looking at William Barr because this man is completely just undermining the rule of law in this country with the fucking the antics he's pulling.
Starting point is 00:50:37 It kind of has been for a while. Yeah. And like, you know, please don't start running chyrons and headlines with quotes of what William Barr said. They need to say William Barr has been fucking around this whole time. That's a good headline. Yeah, and Mueller does specifically seem to kick the obstruction question to Congress. So, I mean, yeah, this is going to keep going. I'm pretty satisfied as somebody who's been following this story for a long time. In some detail, I'm pretty satisfied with what I's been following this story for a long time in some detail.
Starting point is 00:51:06 I'm pretty satisfied with what I've heard the Mueller report says up to this point. But again, I'll have to read it myself because otherwise we just can't know. And we just don't know. At this stage. At this early stage. We still don't know. There's so many blacked out things. I mean, oh, the juiciness under there.
Starting point is 00:51:24 All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,
Starting point is 00:51:55 a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?
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Starting point is 00:53:20 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire?
Starting point is 00:54:01 Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and
Starting point is 00:54:31 culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here. I'm just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
Starting point is 00:54:58 She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:55:30 And we're back. And let's talk about Flint, guys. They finally have the glimmer of hope. Yeah. I mean, you know, while everybody who studied abroad in Europe once was able to cobble together a billion euros for Notre Dame Cathedral. Many people were like, hey, what about Flint, Michigan, people's drinking water?
Starting point is 00:55:52 Because the president was like, we're going to help out. We're going to help try and rebuild it. Meanwhile, you have crumbling infrastructure in this city. Oh, Notre Dame, he said that? Yeah, that the U.S. would provide assistance to help the rebuilding effort. Oh, Notre Dame, he said that? Yeah, that the U.S. would provide assistance to help the rebuilding effort. And everyone was like,
Starting point is 00:56:07 Flint still needs their drinking water! Anyway, so we found out earlier this week the city of Flint received the $77 million of funding from the existing or the promised $120 million loan, which came from the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality. They finally got it and they can start putting it to good use. Now, it's not a loan, I guess, in the traditional sense, because there's no interest on it.
Starting point is 00:56:33 It doesn't have to be repaid. So it's just like, I guess, however they're doing that for their books. Right. But essentially now this thing is going to, now they can actually put a lot of this money to good use for short and long-term projects. That seems like what they're going to be putting in. Use various projects like water meter replacements for homes, installation of water quality monitoring panels, construction of a new chemical feed building, and completion of a pipeline that will connect to a secondary water source. water source. But this isn't the end of the story for Flint because they still need about $300 million to fully recover over the next few years to really address this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:57:13 And they're completing this fast start pipe program where they're trying to replace lead and galvanize steel water lines. And that could take about till 2020, but there's still a lot of work to be done. I mean, at least there's money coming through. But again, if you want to put the Mueller report aside and just look at how the president is treating the people of this country, Flint is a perfect example. Because this man is, you know, crowing for money for a border wall or like an additional $40 million in funding to build more tent cities for detained immigrants. So pick the myriad of reasons why this president is wholly unfit for the office,
Starting point is 00:57:49 aside from his inability to follow the law. He also has no compassion and is willing to just, you know, wear that on his sleeve. All right. Let's check back in with our good friends over at American Media Inc. Harvey Peckar, David Peckar. Yeah. I mean, Nick, prepare to drop the bomb, okay? Because they had to sell.
Starting point is 00:58:09 What? Yeah, they had to sell. And I want to pat ourselves on the back. Drop the bomb. Yes. Maybe we did that. You know, most likely we did. We played a small part.
Starting point is 00:58:20 We played a small part. I like to say we did. Bringing this media Goliath down. Yeah. part we played this i like to say bring it bringing this media goliath down uh yeah so they sold the national enquire for 100 million dollars to james cohen who is the ceo of hudson news you know from every fucking airport yeah aren't they in every motherfucking airport yeah basically nearly except for like maybe burbank they have like that weird nbc store um but yeah i think it's like that weird NBC store. But yeah, I think it's like that. They get the globe and another sister publication. So they're fully,
Starting point is 00:58:48 you know, Trump's garbage tabloid. One of his, you know, three headed Hydra is going down. I don't know if that's a good metaphor. But anyway, I think a lot of it has to do with a few,
Starting point is 00:58:59 many different things. First, the shit was on its way down from a financial perspective. They went from selling 516 copies per issue in 2014 to just 218,000 this last December. So it's been on its way down. And on top of it, there's a hedge fund manager who actually controls AMI or at least who decided to sell it. And that basically happened after it came out of – all the stories came out about how David Pecker, the head of AMI, was using all these catch and kill stories. And also the legal exposure from the Stormy Daniels stuff to like, you know, we can't have an asset like this.
Starting point is 00:59:33 So let's just cut our losses. Let's get a hundred million dollars and get the fuck out. Well, that's the only magazine I read. The National Enquirer. Yeah. Where you got all your news. Where you got all my news. I mean, we bought a lot of those over the years.
Starting point is 00:59:44 I mean, we did our lot of those over the years. I mean, we did our part. I know. We were a big part of the sales of that magazine. That's my favorite thing to read. Do you read it? No. Oh, you should.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Was that sarcasm? Oh, my gosh. Was I sarcastic? I just practiced it. I'm sorry. Practice what you preach. Oh, man. So, you know, pour one out for those shitty, shitty liars.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Let's talk about Netflix again real quick, because they are now releasing numbers. And they're telling us how many households are watching their various original programs. So Bird Box, they announced a while back, was watched by 80 million households. I still haven't seen that. Me neither. Did I see it? I fell asleep. You fell asleep? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Oh, okay. Because it was just like watching people with their eyes closed. Right. I was like, I gotta close my eyes. You were like, I should close my eyes as well. Yeah, it was hard. So when you see like black and white films, does your vision suddenly go monochrome? Yeah, I just see everything black and white.
Starting point is 01:00:43 My eye's not working. You're an empath. Yeah, I just, I'm fucking working. My eye's not working. You're an empath. Yeah, I'm really, just really sensitive. Yeah. So they've, they've had some hits this past month.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Uh, Umbrella Academy was watched by 45 million households, uh, which you watched it, Miles. Yeah. And you're a fan. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:00 I mean, I, I, I, I, I, it seemed like there were holes in the plot in it, but everyone's telling me, like, you got to watch the whole thing play out. Because I'm always like, it felt like they were really dismissive of these two characters who were trying to solve the problem.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Right. And then just let, like, the terrible thing go down. I don't want to spoil it for anybody. Okay. But, I mean, I kept watching. Because, like, anything that, like, keeps me, like, gives you a little taste of some kind of ending i'm a fucking sucker for shows like that is it based on a comic book by the creator of my chemical romance yeah yeah comic book yeah it's a graphic novel graphic novel yeah that's the i didn't even know that part and everyone's like it's the dude from my chemical romance Well, now I'm going to watch it. Are you a big MCR head? No. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Sarcasm again. No, I am. I am. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, I am. I am. I know.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Fall Out Boy. Okay. All those guys. I mean, I did not know there was a difference between those. They occupy the same image in my head. Really? Just now. Which one is Pete Wenson?
Starting point is 01:02:02 I don't know. My Chemical Romance? I think so. He had the spiky hair. Oh, no, Fall Out Boy. He's Fall Out Boy. Oh, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:10 And wasn't he with Ashley Simpson before? Yeah, that's the only reason I know. And now she's with Evan Ross. Before, wasn't she with Ryan Cabrera at one point? Oh, she was definitely with Ryan Cabrera. See? Yeah. That's how you gotta exercise your mind, Jack.
Starting point is 01:02:22 You gotta go back in time and go through all Ashley Simpson's boo things. Yeah. My memory palace for Ashley Simpson's boyfriends really needs work. Let me walk you through mine. I'm entering the front door to the left. I see Ryan Cabrera with an acoustic guitar to the right. I see Pete Wentz up the stairs. Let me go up the stairs.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Yes, there's Evan Ross. Memory palaces are very effective. Yeah, apparently. A lot of card counters, I think, use that. Yeah. up the stairs oh let me go up the stairs yes there's Evan Ross memory palaces are very effective yeah apparently a lot of card counters I think use that yeah or that style of
Starting point is 01:02:50 memory recall yeah anyway The Highwaymen starring Kevin Costner and Woody Harrelson was improbably watched by
Starting point is 01:02:59 40 million households in its first month is that the it's like Bonnie and Clyde but oh the cops who killed Bonnie and Clyde the story behind the people who shot them yeah i'm good on that one right is that where we're at as a as a country that like back in the 60s we were like we want to see the badass outlaws who like
Starting point is 01:03:17 have sex with each other and like are on this romantic like death wish quest and now we're like we want to see the fucking cops solve the crime. It's like our true crime obsession. That's like an improv game. I know. You do like an improv game where you're like, this is the deleted scene of this movie,
Starting point is 01:03:34 or this character. Right, where we follow the cops. Yeah, we follow the cops. Like, nobody cares. Tell it from their perspective. Yeah. It's like, when are we going to see Lord of the Rings from Sauron's perspective?
Starting point is 01:03:43 Right. Triple Frontier, which sounds like a movie that, you know, like a fake action movie from a Simpsons episode. It sounds like an eating challenge at Cracker Barrel. Also that. Do the Triple Frontier. I will do that challenge. Yeah, right? That was viewed by 52 million households.
Starting point is 01:04:04 What? I've never even heard of this yeah that was the one with ben affleck where it looks to me like this video game ghost recon wildlands uh but it's just a bunch of what like ex special forces dudes who are just like man we should rob the fucking drug dealers because we got bills so i mean just in terms of, like, obviously this does not equate in terms of dollars, but in terms of, like, the amount of mind share that these movies are occupying, like, 52 million. If a movie sold 52 million tickets, it would be, like, the second biggest movie of the year. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:40 It would be $520 million, like, in. Where do you get $10 movie tickets, Mr. O'Brien, in this city? I watch all my movies in Missouri. Oh, yeah. It's actually worth it when you do the math with the flight hotel. Get a ticket because the ticket's only $10. It actually works out. Because here it's like fucking $38 to see a movie.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Yeah. Fire Festival documentary, the greatestest Party That Never Happened, $20 million. Did Hulu put out numbers for their fire documentary? I don't think so. I don't think Hulu puts out numbers. I don't, like, this is, streamers don't usually put out numbers like this.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Yeah, I know. Netflix is just putting up, putting their numbers where their mouth is. I guess. Forget i ever said that okay uh let's talk about our planet finally uh the nature documentary uh that we were talking about when it the trailer first dropped and they were like we got attenborough bitches that was viewed by 25 million households in its first month of release have you watched that i have watched a couple episodes.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Holy shit. The first one kind of fucked me up because it was a little bit like, this is the state of things. This is where we're at. And I'm like, can we just get to the cool birds and shit? More pretty, less thinky. I don't want to think of a stranded ass polar bear,
Starting point is 01:06:01 like how fucked the earth is. It made me want to be a vegetarian oh did it? I wanted to eat every animal I saw I was like get in my belly you're like googling like where to buy sandal meat fat bastard ref
Starting point is 01:06:18 yeah let's replay oh my god I said get in my belly that was good I heard it. I love it. We are high-fiving each other relentlessly. I'm going to watch Austin Powers after this. But it has one of the coolest things I've ever seen in a nature documentary. It's like this mating ritual where five male birds line up on a branch and do this dance
Starting point is 01:06:39 where it's like a coordinated dance and it's all to get the lead male bird to be able to have sex with the woman if she's impressed enough. But it's not like she's not impressed by one of them doing a dance. Their whole, it's like a boy band. So it's like NSYNC backing up Justin Timberlake so he can get with Britney Spears. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:06:59 But as if that was NSYNC's only motivation. It's just really- Hey, Justin needs to fuck, guys. Five, six, seven. It's really interesting that nature would evolve to be that selfless, to just be like, yo, we need to get this guy. Hence the name Wingman. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Exactly. Oh, is that where that came from? Yeah. Yes. I just made that up for this debate. But that's good. It works so well. I went to the Alyssa Sabo School of Debate.
Starting point is 01:07:29 According to this study I made up for the purposes of winning this argument. It worked on me. And I'm going to believe that. And I'm going to start spreading that. Yeah. Please do. Netflix is about to take up a lot of my time this weekend. Because, you know, 420, I got Beyonce.
Starting point is 01:07:42 I'm going to watch so much Our Planet. Yeah. Because I saved a couple of them yeah because i want to see the high seas yet no deep seas no deep seas oh my gosh the high seas i think would be about pirates yeah yeah i think it would be about the discontinued flavor i don't know if you should get high when you watch the deep seas you might get scared i was it was like a horror movie when i did you see that thing about you know blobfish yeah like they look all fucked up because they're depressurized when you when we bring them up to the surface but like below they look completely different and not like ted cruz yes i was really surprised because there was a photo where they're like yo we're
Starting point is 01:08:17 actually doing blobfish pretty dirty man right like they're out of their element that's why they look like that yeah they look much better but if you took us all the way to the bottom of the ocean where they live and like- I would look hot too. We would look like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Total Recall when his head starts to explode. Oh my God. It's so hot. Our face would just- It's so hot.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Actually, I guess it would be the reverse of that. And they'd be like smash mammal or something. No, no. I feel like I'm using the logic of, well, if blobfish looks ugly up here, then we all look ugly up here and we need to be our best selves in the deepest part of the ocean. In the deepest seas. Yeah. No, that's probably true.
Starting point is 01:08:52 You should follow through on that theory. Yeah. No breathing tank. Just put a fucking one ton weight on my leg and just take me down with a photo shoot or just a waterproof camera. I'll take the selfies myself. This is another fact that I stand by. Alyssa's walking directly out of this office onto a boat and heading for the Marianas.
Starting point is 01:09:13 For a photo shoot. Just like my agent said, I need new headshots. Alyssa, it has been such a pleasure having you. What a great first episode. Thank you so much. On a very politics heavy day. Yeah, seriously. I know.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Alyssa underscore Sabo. Hey, team underscore. Yeah. You have an underscore? I do. Yeah. It's cool.
Starting point is 01:09:39 It is so cool, isn't it? It's very like, you know, like I'm classy, but not too classy. Right. I don't know. Says like, you know, I'm utilitarian, but not like too much. Anyways, is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh my gosh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Can I plug like my friend's Twitter? No. No. You have to hate the person. You have to hate the person. You have to hate the person. Yeah. And actually you have to say fuck them before you even say their name. And this isn't sarcasm.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Oh my gosh. Okay. Literally my friend, Lindsay McDowell, I hate her so much. Oh, Lindsay. Don't follow her. No, but she's just so fun. And a lot of her tweets, it's funny because i'm not going to really be able to read it because she uses like gifs and like well it sounds wow you say gifs yeah is that what
Starting point is 01:10:31 it is it's technically what the creator did but i'm old school internet and to me that would always sounded like gif but is it i used to say gifs and then this past week i started saying gifs did something happen well i just was thinking about GIF peanut butter. And then your mind just went, you know what? Changing it. So you didn't even hear that the person who created it was like, I say it as GIF. You just saw peanut butter and you just connected that and you're like, I'm switching.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Alright, swag lord. You can follow her at Lindsay, L-I-N-Z-E-E, two underscores. It's pretty wild. Whoa. Wait a second now. She's great. Did she out underscore us?
Starting point is 01:11:12 Yeah, she did. This is bullshit. You're not going to read any of her tweets. You're just going to tell us. Oh, no, no. I will. I'm sorry. I have to be honest.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Growing up with TV as my only guide into what adult life would be like I thought I'd know way more people with amnesia by now so many amnesia people I know that and quicksand I feel like amnesia people are our quicksand because it doesn't actually exist but it's such a convenient
Starting point is 01:11:40 like movie or TV trope that it just constantly is happening and if you grew up watching telenovelas you probably thought every motherfucker on earth had him or a soap opera every soap opera is the same way yeah just like jane the virgin right now you know what i mean but he's getting his memory back oh i don't know is like a big fear of mine yeah i'm just like i might have it don't worry you wouldn't know i don't know yeah that's true you would just be that's the comfort of it. That's true.
Starting point is 01:12:05 You just become very curious about everything. Yeah, you just go, who the fuck are you? Right. Maybe it's actually very stressful. Yeah. I actually am starting to use my son as a memory tool because he's got a really good memory, like where I left shit and stuff. Oh.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Wow. How old is he? He's two. Wow. Shows you where his brain's at. He's like a two-year-old. He has so many fewer memories than like- In there. Wow, that's smart.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Yeah, he just picks everything up. I hope you feel good when he can't read. But he'll know where you left your wallet five years ago. Yeah, he's helped me win so many arguments. Ramsey, run that tape back. Come back. Court stenographer, please. That's incredible.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Miles, where can people find you? Find me on Instagram and that other one, Twitter, at Miles of Gray. A tweet I like is actually from Alyssa. It's the one that you have pinned to the top. It's a long one. Yeah, but I love it. From Alyssa Sabo, at Alyssa underscore Sabo. It says, guy I dated, not in the industry.
Starting point is 01:13:07 You should try commercials. My mom and dad. You should try being on Netflix. My agent. You should try new headshots. God. I love you, Alyssa. Everyone.
Starting point is 01:13:17 God isn't real. Me gets bangs. I'm about to. I'm about to get bangs. You're going to get bangs. No. Again with the sarcasm. No, that's a fake bangs no again with the sarcasm no that's a fake out yeah that's fine
Starting point is 01:13:28 that's a fake out not sarcasm you're more like it's like a fun fake out okay I'll buy that you're all about to pump fakes head fakes yeah
Starting point is 01:13:35 a couple tweets I like Louis Vertel tweeted devastated to learn the Mueller report doesn't pass the Bechdel test and Catherine Van Arendonk. I hope that's a real name. Just once I'd like to see a woman throw up on TV and not be pregnant.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Never happens. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ran out on.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Miles, what's that? I'm just going to be weird with this one, because we've just been talking about The Unknown so much. I just want to do an Usher song that I feel like needs to get more love. It's called I Don't Know by Usher featuring P. Diddy. Because that's how I'm feeling right now. We just don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:31 We just don't know. And I don't know what you came to do girl. What you came to do tonight. But I'm ready to party. Oh. And it's Friday so just take that in your weekend. Take that. Take that. Take that. Alright guys. Have a great weekend. We'll be back on Monday or maybe before if something crazy happens but probably on monday uh so we'll talk to you guys
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