The Daily Zeitgeist - Roe V Paid, Scoob! Opens Portal to Hell 5.20.20

Episode Date: May 20, 2020

In episode 634, Jack, Miles, and Jamie are joined by comedian Steven Wilber to discuss Jane Roe being paid to say she was pro-life, Georgia needing to repeal it's citizen's arrest statute, the Trump a...dministration firing an inspector general who was investigating Mike Pompeo, Trump claiming to be taking hydroxychloroquine, Scoob!, the one year anniversary of the Game Of Thrones finale, and more!FOOTNOTES: The woman behind ‘Roe vs. Wade’ didn’t change her mind on abortion. She was paid Georgia Can Honor Ahmaud Arbery by Repealing Its Horrible Citizen’s Arrest Statute Fired inspector general was examining whether Pompeo had a staffer walk his dog, handle dry cleaning, official says State Dept. Investigator Fired by Trump Had Examined Weapons Sales to Saudis and Emiratis Trump says he is taking hydroxychloroquine, a drug FDA has cautioned about using for COVID-19. He started "a couple weeks ago" "I think it's good. I've heard a lot good stories. And if it's not good, I'll tell you right, I'm not going to get hurt by it" Trump’s Hydroxychloroquine Dosing Divides Fox’s ‘News’ and ‘Opinion’ Wings Trump threatens permanent freeze on WHO funding without 'major' reforms within 30 days ‘Scoob!’ Is for Those That Want Scooby-Doo to Open the Gates of Hell | Review Review: ‘Scoob!’ is everything we could want in a Scooby-Doo reboot Happy anniversary to the biggest ending flop of modern television #GameofThrones #IStandByDaenerys  WATCH: Clark - Ted (Bibio Remix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:07 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 134, episode 3 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the coke brothers fuck fox news fuck the facebook company it's wednesday may 20th 2020 my name is jack o'brien aka all i can say is every day is just the same the social distancing is getting lame and all i can do is just pour more mountain dew and spit a take or two from jacko's brain i just want someone to say to me Oh, oh, oh, oh Jack, Obie, throw that mask away Get me a COVID-19 vaccine
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Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah. Okay. Fantastic. That one felt that one. That's from Freddie Bidet at Buns Ahoy. That's just a fun username through and through thank you freddie bidet freddie bidet buns ahoy uh that uh i feel like people are maybe gonna want more aka singing uh should i just go back and do my more blind melon yeah i think that there's there's actually there's room for more um well is that the one with the
Starting point is 00:05:26 bumblebee girl costume yeah yeah i remember she was like a sensation like years after like what happened to bumblebee girl yeah her and the uh nirvana baby uh from the nevermind album cover no it was just a kid baby oh just that's the mother baby? Oh, fantastic. Just some random kid they threw into a pool. Oh, fun. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our fourth seat by the hilarious comedian Stephen Wilber! A.K.A.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Hey, man. You've got the COVID in you. Don't let go. And this is Steven Wilbur. One dance left. The world is gonna pull through. I know the rap part. Fashion shirts.
Starting point is 00:06:19 You don't want that Marilyn Manson smoke, dude. Wasn't that the whole thing? Because he said, like, Marilyn Manson, come around, I'll kick your ass in. And Marilyn Manson's like, I'll fuck you up if I see you. Whoa, really? Yeah. That's a good anecdote.
Starting point is 00:06:32 All I'm into is 90s and early 2000s trash beefs. But I remember that was a moment where like, oh, Marilyn Manson didn't like that line. Yeah. A lot of people remember Tupac Biggiegie but that was the one that i feel like really defined a generation um what it what was that band who was uh new radicals the new radicals of course how could i forget that they were the ones uh steven how are you doing where where are you i am in my girlfriend's closet because she's in a meeting love love this what part of the country portland oregon land of lincoln got it i think that's a bit different but i like that so if you're in the closet does that mean there's like
Starting point is 00:07:21 a sort of room hierarchy where podcast means closet, work means I get the house? Right. Where the revenue's coming from, Dick. The real estate. Based on this rev share, my man, you're going to have to record in the closet tonight. All right, Steven, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today uh we're gonna talk about the revelation the revolution uh my favorite lotion um the revelation that jane rowe was paid to be anti-choice uh for much her life. We're going to talk about Georgia
Starting point is 00:08:06 and why they need to change some laws down there. Mike Pompeo just being an all-around cool boss. Why we should ignore Donald Trump. It's been one year since the finale of Game of Thrones, so we're just going to take a look back. Wow, that's such a nice memory. We all were together. That was so fun.
Starting point is 00:08:28 We're all together hating that thing. There were so many snacks. That's what we cared about. Oh, I wasn't there, by the way. Jack was not there. Thanks, Jamie. You weren't in Westeros? No, I wasn't.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Jack doesn't fuck with weekends. Only in my mind. Yeah. We're going to talk about Scoob, all of that, and plenty more. But first, Stephen, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I recently searched Sky Rizzy lyrics. Yeah, the drug?
Starting point is 00:09:02 The drug. And I wanted to know what the lyrics of the sky rizzy theme song were uh because they're fun uh the nothing is everything oh yeah yeah yeah yeah it's when you said that i was like that was always when i first saw that commercial i'm like that's such a interesting pharmaceutical name because it does sound like a SoundCloud rapper. Like Sky Rizzy. I legitimately thought that's what you were saying. Yeah, when he said Sky Rizzy lyrics and I'm like, I know I like this bit.
Starting point is 00:09:34 I thought it too, man. The drug? Come on, baby. What are the Sky Rizzy lyrics? But yeah, that song is kind of like, what artists are they ripping off? It reminds me of like those san diego tourist commercials um so okay that's what i was wondering because i thought like they might just be some royalty-free song or something but then i was hearing it on the tv and it's like uh nothing and me go hand in hand nothing on my skin that's my new plan i was like, this is specifically for Sky Rizzy.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Or just very, just it happened, coincidentally happened to be a perfect fit. You just got to check a lot of boxes in the search filter. A lot of people sing about clear skin. But yeah, that, nothing in everything. It sounds like kind of like a Matt and Kim ripoff or something too. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Maybe heavily inspired by Matt and Kim. You know, I just want to, always want to try and find the genesis of all of our pharmaceutical ad commercials music i i wonder if matt and kim like that's what they're doing for bank these days you know the like there are certain musicians who go into barry manilow wrote a bunch of the 80s jingles they might be giants write a bunch of the disney jingles. They might be giants. Like a good neighbor. Write a bunch of the Disney TV show annoying earworm theme songs. Mark Mothersbaugh energy, I feel like. He's the best example
Starting point is 00:10:55 and probably the coolest example of that. What commercials did Mothersbaugh do? He did a bunch of commercial work. I think that before he got into the Rugrats zone and like before he started scoring every kid's show, he did commercial work to show that he could like hack it in the non-devo world. I can crack that whip for commercials too. Pusha T wrote the I'm loving it.
Starting point is 00:11:22 He did with Justin Timberlake. Yeah. Wait, for real? Wait, really? Yeah. Yeah. Wow, for real yeah yeah wow jack i don't believe you yeah good word steven still got it you're messing with the real you're messing with the music scholars now that's so wild yeah that's like a song between the two of them uh yeah but yeah he's like because steve stout right that's this guy he always he's like this guy who has always been like the connecting point between business and hip-hop and that's like one is steve stout's thing is like people don't know me like but i'm the
Starting point is 00:11:54 person who put ba-da-ba-ba-ba like that's a that's from hip-hop uh he's always like like bigging himself up over that i'm still mad about mac tonight i just had to say it's been a rough 24 hours for me everyone was teasing me there christy yamaguchi man was like it was it was funny but i did more i did more research into mac tonight and it ate so bad yeah it's they stole him they stole the mac tonight did you go on the record saying it was a banger? No, I was just like, Mac tonight, we got to bring him back. He rocks. And then Miles was like, Mac tonight is a symbol of the all right.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And I just didn't know. I didn't know. By the way, also, I was wrong. The Three Penny Opera was not by, who did I say? Shakespeare? It's Bertolt Brecht. Oh. Brechtian. Who did I say?
Starting point is 00:12:51 I put that egg on your face. Well, is anything by Shakespeare by Shakespeare and let's be real. Thank you. Side note, back to your, aka Stephen, about New about new young radicals the thing that happened with marilyn manson this is a quote he said i'm not really mad he said he kicked my ass i just don't want to be used in the same sentence with courtney love i'll crack his skull open if i see him was
Starting point is 00:13:17 his full line and because the lyric was saying like fashion shoots with beck and hansen courtney love and marilyn manson blah blah but the the the guy who wrote the song was like i was curious if the media would just focus on those celebrities i called up because the part preceding that is health insurance ripoff lying fda big bankers buying fake computer crashes dining cloning while they're multiplying was like i had this like other thing to say about bigger issues but i thought the media will probably just focus on me talking about hon and Courtney Love. And Ron's not going to be like, I'll kick his ass. Humana's like, hey, when I see you, motherfucker, it's ugly.
Starting point is 00:13:56 What is something you think is underrated, Steven? Diners, drive-ins, and dives. Yeah. Triple D. I mean, we love it. Triple D, I still hear a lot of flack. My favorite thing recently is me and my girlfriend will be watching it and we'll play a game where Guy will be like, take a bite of a burger. And he'll be like, shut the front door, slit my throat, kill me, send me out to sea.
Starting point is 00:14:20 What a great burger. And it's like, oh, he liked that. me out to see what a great burger and it's like oh he liked that and then like a different segment he'll take a bite of a burger and it'll be like ah you can really taste all the flavors and the texture on that first bite is really something else and look at the dripping and it's like oh he hated that he hated that burger right he's like all right draw and quarter me rip my body parts apart feed me to the birds so I may return to Earth. Because my God, what a BLT. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:49 But if it's just like a description, you know that. Oh, this sure had flavor. Right. Oh, wow. Interesting. Yeah. I demand you mutilate me is the only true. Punish me, daddy.
Starting point is 00:15:01 He's like, here, take this knife. Sab me. Sab me. Sab me. He's like what I'm dirty make me clean the whole
Starting point is 00:15:09 we've had a whole coming around for at least I have to Guy Fieri just because he's he's a saint
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Starting point is 00:15:23 Guy Fieri is the new Guy Fox those are the new Guy Fox. Those are the masks we should be wearing when we're like actually trying to get like real substantive societal changes to honor the energy of Guy Fieri. Yeah. V for Flavortown. In response to that, somebody sent us a close up of his hands. Those are amazing to behold.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Oh, yeah. the new Arthur fist. Yeah, very. He has a giant baby's hand. He has paws, though, too. Yeah, very plump. Beautiful. What is something you think is overrated, Stephen? Too hot to handle.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Ooh, fair, fair. One of the weaker recent reality show efforts shows it feels like an afterthought and it's just it's that it's a little too exploitive for my taste in a way like uh it reminds me of and it's this isn't even as extreme as this one show was but way back in the day where it was it was like 20 gay men on an island and it was one guy trying to find love but some of those guys were secretly straight
Starting point is 00:16:34 and if they can convince the gay guy to fall in love with them they win like extra money. Just like a manipulative. Oh my god. That's horrible. That doesn so sound like it should be legal who is too hot to handle exploitative of like hot just dummies yeah just the dumb my i more take umbrage with the fact that it's boring my main issue with too hot to handle is
Starting point is 00:17:01 that it's boring and it's so like if you have any like understanding of reality shows which everyone does it's so fake that it's just like not really fun to watch it yeah i i thought i would get through more of it because on the premise when we were talking about is like great now netflix is bringing us the horniest dating show and it wasn't as like it didn't actually quite like pay off on what i felt the the concept was initially so you know i don't know maybe that's it wasn't horny enough for me to be honest so i needed more horny needed more frothing i watched a horrible i really like took my brain out of my head and put it in a jar over the weekend. And I watched a horrible show called Selling Sunset. Oh, I love that show.
Starting point is 00:17:50 That show rocks. About the real estate people who are so toxic. Yeah, it's just like the hills for people in their 30s. And it's horrendous. With the worst priorities as human. Like absolutely inverted priorities. It's unbelievable. I was a latecomer to it i just watched all of it this weekend now i'm psyched for season two they're like
Starting point is 00:18:11 it has every evil white lady in the book in the show it's it's great is it on netflix oh yeah it's on netflix yeah it looks like somehow it because it's an original isn't it it's an original it's some of the blonde women are it's literally i cannot tell them apart they'll be talking to each other there was like a whole scene where i thought there were three people in the room there were only two there but it's like identical people yeah i remember when it came out i was like oh cool at netflix if it's it was like the beginning of the end of that netflix original meaning something on like a image and i was like oh cool and then i was like what the fuck is this i'm like okay so somebody in their like development department panic bought this show uh because they need to fill out a reality slate
Starting point is 00:18:59 it was great you know just some la snark for you you know just some absolute but it's panic bot you know the show is trash but it's so fun to watch i love that there's a soap opera star on it the show has everything yeah it really does the very worst buyer's remorse miles i think you'll agree is when you buy a reality show for your network yeah it's just and, and I know you're a man of conviction and morals. We wouldn't wish that on anybody, not even Donald Trump, to know that feeling.
Starting point is 00:19:33 A big reality project that you can't even choose. And finally, Stephen, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? I was thinking my favorite one one and not a lot of people think it's true hopefully but the one from a few years ago about uh finland not being real what what uh there was a there was a guy who like he heard from his parents like when he was a kid like they said you know finland wasn't
Starting point is 00:20:07 real and uh he went on reddit about it and it just had some very like loose evidence and he did it as a joke he thought hey look at this funny shit my parents told me and uh but then some people were like hey that adds up and then some like finnish people were like, hey, that adds up. And then some, like, Finnish people were like, I exist. That's a great place for a conspiracy theory to end. It's just people screaming that they exist. I exist. We exist. Like, not just that the country isn't there,
Starting point is 00:20:37 but, like, the land mass is not there either. Oh, wow. Australia is a big target for this sort of conspiracy theory with the flat earthers i believe um but why finland like of all places things like that are born out of like some kind of weird white supremacist ideology too so why erase like a scandinavian like nordic country like what's the point too good to be true man too good yeah dude don't even oh dude don't even get my mind around a place like finland oh my god oh we should yeah i feel like that's like only a matter of time that just like any country that has like decent infrastructure and values
Starting point is 00:21:17 its citizens lives they're like that place actually doesn't exist so i don't know what the fuck you're talking about must be fake all right let's take a quick break guys i'm we'll be right back i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life it's too late for that i have a a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110.
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Starting point is 00:25:48 She's the pseudonymous Jane Roe. Her real name is Norma McCorvey. And she, in the 80s, came out as a anti-choice advocate and was aligned with a lot of anti-abortion groups. She was like the poster child to be like, whoa, she came. Look, she came around to the light. It was such an optics victory.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Yeah. I didn't know this. Or maybe I knew it, but it just didn't stand out that much for me but i think this is like i it seems like this was very important for anti-choice people to like prove to themselves that they are right well anytime you can like take down if you can take away like a figurehead of a movement that's gonna be a huge win but it's just like another example of like why you don't get attached to people you get attached to ideas because shit like this will always happen but this story was like very interesting i'm glad it's getting reported on yeah so uh she passed away a couple years ago i think 2016 late 2016 early 2017
Starting point is 00:27:09 uh but before she did she was making a documentary and in it she talks about the fact that she was basically paid to say all of those things uh and you you know, she is pro-choice and didn't believe any of the shit that people were paying her to say and is actually, like, seems like a very interesting character and has a bunch of really funny things to say. Well, she ticked so many boxes
Starting point is 00:27:40 with them getting her to flip, like, her public persona or whatever you know like she went from being this this sort of symbol of like people and if you have a uterus you you are up you are able to decide what you do with your body uh to then this person who became like anti-abortion ex-gay born again christian like it was like check check this fully came to the light and like that's really and then i guess yeah to see this like admission on her deathbed is really really interesting to say that like yeah dude i was just getting a check to do that like that's really all it was and i feel bad about it like but do we got a number on how much she was getting?
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yeah, how much does it cost? What is the dollar amount that it takes to just sell out a movement? Right. But, I mean, it's, yeah. This is, I'm interested to see the documentary and sort of, like, get to know what, I mean, like, how she spent her life. documentary and sort of like get to know what i mean like how she spent her life because my knowledge of her kind of ends at her doing the heel turn on abortion uh she does come in from the rafters and there's smoke coming in from everywhere and oh yeah no she's like who's this norma mccorvey's here what is she doing hood sign she smashes it with a chair it's awful
Starting point is 00:29:07 right um but yeah i mean i i am curious as to like what her life was like after this but yeah for me this is just like a cut and dry like yeah nope don't become attached to the figurehead they'll always let you down kind of kind of yeah and also just like how cynical that this whole thing is you know what i mean like they were like the only way we're gonna get a human being to like say this stuff out loud is we have to pay them like we have to we had to actually create this person with with money to be able to have like a messaging thing like this uh and i'm curious now it makes me want to watch that movie roe v wade because i believe that was like a lot to do with how she kind of came around uh i think roe v wade you you mean
Starting point is 00:29:51 the fictional films with john voight making yeah yeah yeah yeah oh i didn't know he was in it that whole thing is about like her coming to jesus isn't it wait is it her i thought it was a different uh abortion anti-choice activist oh okay a more modern one but it's it tells a similar tale and this kind of puts all of those people who have a miraculous change of heart under scrutiny i would say at the very least makes you somewhat skeptical and i mean yeah it's it is interesting that on her deathbed the things she talks about are you know regretting that she did this and also regretting the same-sex relationship that she had with like her lifelong partner that she then like turned against because of the anti-lgbtq ideals that she was kind of aligning herself with she just has profound regrets about
Starting point is 00:30:54 all those things so well she should like yeah like i'm not that's, you know, that's good that she at least had the, you know, decency to, I mean, yeah, she had the decency to admit the wrongdoing and admit that it's like, yeah, I was asked to assign a dollar amount to my values and my experience. And I made, I made the, whatever that dollar amount was, I made that choice. I mean, it's an unfair situation to be put in in the first place, but you know, you should feel bad. Well, speaking of doing the bare minimum, it seems like Georgia should do the bare minimum and repeal their
Starting point is 00:31:36 citizens arrest laws. Yeah. Arbery is back in the news because there's new body cam footage of showing him in another interaction with police. And it looks like a man who was doing nothing, being harassed by the police. And if it were not for the policeman's taser, not like malfunctioning, probably would have been tased in this video because he was in his car by a park. And it just just adds more layers of frustration when thinking about what his life was
Starting point is 00:32:08 like um and how it ended but again like the guys who killed him were using they were saying they were claiming that under this citizen's arrest statute you know which is legal in the state of georgia like that's why they were approaching him and that's why when he uh when things got violent they were justified in murdering him essentially and that's why that he uh when things got violent they were justified in murdering him essentially and that's why that's why the case first was like oh okay great oh citizens are okay that makes sense we have that law perfect here's a video okay thanks so that's why many people now are calling for georgia to completely repeal that statute because it just allows for i mean laws like this just allow for the continued presumption of guilt of black
Starting point is 00:32:45 people that's all this shit does and when you go back to like these citizens arrest laws they have very dark roots in slavery which is basically about empowering people to capture runaway slaves uh and be like hey man i know there's not cops here but you got a gun and you see a black person maybe going to like fleeing to the north something turn them in. And there's just this very, there's just this very dark history about white people being able to arm themselves and act extra judicially in this manner because of laws like this. And so, you know, there's a lot of studies about saying, you know, any state that has laws that protects individuals for aggressively protecting their property or being like vigilantes, they're often like it's there's often an increase in racially based violence in those states,
Starting point is 00:33:33 which makes sense because we have a history of just the presumption of guilt for black men and women and children in this country. children in this country. And so, well, the other thing that's interesting to see is that those laws also just like increase homicide rates and emergency visits across racial groups, like entirely, like just the, the thought of being like, Hey, you who is not trained in any capacity to enforce law, you, now that we're entrusting you with that, it only leads to bad shit. So this is like a, you know, continued thing where the naacp and many activist groups are calling for this law to be or a statute to be repealed but i think it needs to begin entering a larger conversation same thing with like a lot of these stand your ground laws these are a lot of things that allow cover for just the continuation of this kind of violence
Starting point is 00:34:17 against people of color it's one of those things that i it's shocking that it exists in the first place like it's truly unbelievable it's such a ass backwards thing that for a very long time i did not think it was real anywhere i thought it was like a a sitcom trovey thing that's it yeah um because the rationale that you would even try to make it no no this isn't racist couldn't exist anymore like you couldn't come up with a good reason why citizens arrest would be a valuable thing because cops can be there very quickly yeah and in a way it's just a way of legalizing 21st century lynch mobs you know that's the same thing with a lot of lynchings of black people there was plenty of just innocent landowners farmers whatever being intimidated uh as white people were like begrudgingly being like
Starting point is 00:35:17 now i have to live with no like this is this it's just it it's playing out this is just a theme in our history and it just you know the song is the same just the instruments are different but we're still playing the same fucking song over and over which is this thing of black bodies are a menace and for some reason i'm very easily moved to take this person's life it's just a again just a dark um it's like the the national anthem basically yeah and justify it under the just a dark, it's like the national anthem, basically. in their own neighborhood that you're also, what am I trying to say? That you're limiting their freedom, that you're limiting their freedom
Starting point is 00:36:10 to murder someone that they want to. Or protect themselves. Right, it's always spun in this horrible bad faith way and then nothing ever gets accomplished. Yeah, it's a waking nightmare. This is the stuff of dystopian science fiction movies that, like, you would have people who believe they have the right to murder someone
Starting point is 00:36:33 based on the law, like, within the law. And it's just a, you know, a confluence of the circumstances of just America's deep abiding racism and the gun lobby being like as powerful as it is the legal system though in this country is just a racist sandbox filled with racist tools for the outcomes to only be racist so even like the people who are operating in it who you know to a certain extent i can't fault every single person in this country for how they behave because this is just this is the culture of this country but it comes in so in so many subtle ways you know what i mean like through our media and all these other things that again it's
Starting point is 00:37:16 like but it's like okay well now here's your sound but here are your tools here are your tools of uh citizens arrest statutes and being able to buy a gun at any time and depictions of black people who always look like criminals and even like you look at just general studies on how black african-american men are perceived by other americans like compared to a white man of the similar size like that person's threatening and bigger and scarier so again this is this fucked up racist sandbox it's like okay do your thing and that's why this is until they take those fucking things those toys out of the sandbox and replace them with actual just tools the outcomes will not change and i think that's what we're trying to
Starting point is 00:37:55 that's what this attention needs to be on because very quickly everyone's just on this whole thing of like what would trump say like come on come the fuck on man there's real problems when i was four years old one time i uh pooped in a sandbox and and the whole time that you were talking just then i was trying to think of how can i fold that into a metaphor that would work yeah it didn't work out didn't work out yeah became an awkward addendum yep yep sure did yeah yeah jack uh back to you before citizens on patrol uh also something that popped into my mind just uh oh yeah citizens on patrol is that the one jason lee is in it's the one bobcat i think so he's a skateboarder bobcat very quickly sweet check uh yeah yeah i think david spade's in
Starting point is 00:38:53 it too right spade yeah he's a david spade and him are punk kids hot week for spade what were you saying jamie i've witnessed one citizen's arrest in my lifetime and it was when i worked at a bookstore and my assistant manager he lost it man someone was trying to steal a vinyl record and he went stop it and then he lost it he took it we had like zip ties that we would use to like zip tie books together. And he took a zip tie out and he waved it. He's like, I'll arrest you. And then the teenager was like, and then ran away. And he's like, and that's how it's done.
Starting point is 00:39:36 And that's how it's done. I'm like, David, that is not how it's done. And you know it. Very odd. Stop it. Stop it. I'm not playing around. I have a small piece of plastic you're into bonded wait what do you mean are you arresting me i know it ended up being a very kinky like i don't know what it was but either way the vinyl was it was do we know
Starting point is 00:39:59 what the record in question was space chance soundtrack i'd have to check with my old coworkers. It was something goofy. Like it wasn't the Smiths, but it was the Smiths adjacent. Got it. Yeah. Just some kid
Starting point is 00:40:12 trying to be cool. Bring something cool back to the home. Just trying to shoplift something for his GF. Yeah. Yeah. I get it.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Deep Blue Something's debut album. Let's talk about Mike Pompeo. He is pulling some very summer of scott adjacent behavior um summer of scott if you this is uh like the last season of game of thrones uh one of those things was just erased from our mind as soon as it was over but we used to have a ep chief named Scott Pruitt who would abuse his power in really silly ways
Starting point is 00:40:48 like make his assistants go do his dry cleaning and like get people to give him yeah just like really like just diva diva the shit out of his out of the office of EPA
Starting point is 00:41:04 chief he had a security detail put the sirens on because he was late to a dinner reservation that all added up and basically led to his the things we would all think about doing like we'd be like oh maybe
Starting point is 00:41:20 I could get it but then we would never we'd realize that's the wrong thing to do on your birthday oh maybe i could get it but then we would never we realize that's the wrong you do it once or you do it once on your birthday and then you have like anxiety the whole weekend about it you're like oh man i shouldn't have done that i shouldn't have done that i shouldn't have done that i shouldn't run that um but yeah so now we're looking at pompeo and he's doing i think he's giving me scott pruitt and ollie north vibes, which is a very unique vibrasi. Hubba hubba.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah. So this, I guess it just means being a cabinet official for Trump is just like how the, you just use any staffer as like a PA to make any kind of run for you that you want. Because so the IG of the state department was looking into some reports essentially that one of pompeo's staffers was doing performing quote domestic errands and chores such as handling dry cleaning walking the dog and making restaurant reservations so like i don't know some kind of app but as a human um and this was like so this started to get hot and then pompeo went to daddy and said please fire the ig because it's making it hot then hours later after that story came out about
Starting point is 00:42:32 the errands uh elliot engel who's on like the i think armed services or intelligence you know armed services committee he was basically saying like i'm also heard that the ig was looking into a saudi arms sale that pomo authorized. That was not supposed to happen. So that could also be the reason, not just the dry cleaning thing. So he's got a lot on his plate. But again, there's so many other things going on. Trump just says four things, and we're talking about something else. Well, speaking of talking about something else, real briefly, let's talk about why we should be ignoring all of the smoke bombs that trump is throwing at the uh news cycle yeah i've said it before and i'll
Starting point is 00:43:11 say it again this guy is a bozo this guy stinks huh um yeah he has been out here just on a tear uh the last few days i mean again we have stories about all these inspectors generals that inspectors general that he's fired botched pandemic response nothing but numbers about like how biden is doing better not that those matter but in his mind that they really do um so this week, he is into some serious shit. He came out here, smoke bomb number the first, was this revelation that he is now taking hydroxychloroquine himself. I just want to play this clip for everybody because the way he sounds it, he starts getting defensive. And it almost sounds like he's lying that he's actually taking it.
Starting point is 00:44:03 But please listen here. A lot of good things have come out about the hydroxy. A lot of good things have come out. And you'd be surprised at how many people have taken it, especially the frontline workers, before you catch it. The frontline workers, many, many are taking it. I happen to be taking it. I happen to be taking it.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I'm taking it, hydroxychloroquine i'm taking it hydroxychloroquine right now yeah a couple of weeks ago i started taking it because i think it's good i've heard a lot of good stories and if it's not good i'll tell you right i'm not going to get hurt by it it's been around for 40 years for malaria, for lupus, for other things. I take it. Frontline workers take it. So pretty much it was like, yeah, dude, I got a girlfriend. She's in college. And everyone at the lunch table was like, you have a girlfriend that's in college? And he's like, yeah, yeah, dude. We started dating a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:44:59 His face is so bashful. It's really like, yeah, a couple weeks. His nose is like runny he kind of looks disheveled it looks a little more disheveled than normal but this again immediately sucked up all the air it feels like the the frontline workers thing he was expecting to hit bigger with people right right and it was like me too i'm doing it yeah i think again it's a terrible i think the whole thing is really interesting because it like it it accomplishes so many things it sends the news cycle into a tailspin because now they're not talking about this what
Starting point is 00:45:36 this inspector general being fired on any kind of pompeo wrongdoing the shit that william bar is doing with the michael fly Flynn case that there's like 12 state attorneys general that have signed on to an amicus brief supporting the DOJ's decision to drop the case like they're now like getting their cronies in the states to like back this shitty decision up so we have this going on and everyone's like whoa he's taking it the thing that everyone says don't do and also like people are curious if there's somehow some tangential financial stake that he has in it and along with other people who have been so like proudly trumpeting this thing because like the frontline thing sounds like a bad ad where he's like you
Starting point is 00:46:15 know they're all taking it on the front lines to protect themselves and if that's how they're safe you know on the march of war yeah like it's sort of that very same thing. But I think the most fascinating part after all of this is what happened to Fox News in light of this. Because, you know, their whole thing is, like, news during the day and then full pedal to the metal racism at night. And just, like, you know, typical, like like dog whistle racism during the day in the news section but when it gets to the opinion people that's why the editorials that's yeah the fucker carlson's and the hannity's and ingram's and all those uh wonderful people uh that's where like the split happened neil cavuto he went on tv and absolutely like shut the whole thing down. Like he basically was telling people, do not for any reason do what the president just said. Let me and I just want to play this clip
Starting point is 00:47:13 for you because this is like very interesting for for Fox, right? Because normally they'll want to just be like, oh, OK, that's interesting. The president said that this is him like straight up warning his listeners that like, yo, fuck what you just heard. The VA study to which the president alluded wasn't a loaded political one. It was a test on patients there and those who took it in a vulnerable population, including those with respiratory or other conditions. They died. I want to stress again, they died. If you are in a risky population here, and you are taking this as a preventative treatment to ward off the virus, or in a worst case scenario, you are dealing with the virus, and you are in this vulnerable population, it will kill you. I cannot
Starting point is 00:47:58 stress enough. This will kill you. So that's a pretty stark split. And the president naturally on Twitter is like, I don't know what happened to Fox. They've completed. They're all fucking hatred. Yeah. The latest smoke bomb he threw up is that he doesn't want to put the Obama portrait up in the White House. Everyone's like, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Oh, I know. Obama didn't want to either. Oh, really? Yeah. He said he didn't he didn't want it under this presidency. He was unwilling to do it. And then the other one was the World Health Organization fight that he's picking by saying he drafted this junior high level letter, like fuck you type letter to the World Health Organization.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Be like, you lied about this. You fucked us over on that it's it's full of horseshit like none of it is true or and if anything that is true it's like so just like barely near the truth that it could pass um but all this to say that he these are all things to just distract the news cycle and then for the in the instance of the world health organization he needs just someone to fight against going into the election because he can't just have this situation with the coronavirus be like, how'd you fuck this up, man? It has to be like, no, can you believe China or the World Health Organization or fucking bats or I don't know what the fuck they're going to say. Yeah, like the bats of Austinxas are the reason for this have you guys seen
Starting point is 00:49:25 the epoch times ad on youtube where they're like imagine it's got a woman who's like a straw man who's like i've heard the mainstream media say that trump is responsible for the poor response to covet 19 and then this guy like pulls out this giant like thing it's like here's evidence that china covered it up and here's it's uh this and it's from their strange times right well the epoch times is uh falun gong which is a religious group in china and you know they love trump they love a lot of conservative politicians because they're very strongly anti-chinese communist party so a good source is what i'm saying uh people should check it out and then in the other corner i just encountered this this piping hot news on my feed joe biden finally makes up nickname for trump president name for Trump. President Tweedy. Oh my
Starting point is 00:50:26 God. So get ready for some spicy debates. Trump's won. President Tweedy. And that's when I knew we were in for another four years. President Tweedy. Honestly, but you know what?
Starting point is 00:50:41 That's just not even going to move the needle because everyone's still so focused on hydroxychloroquine. Right. It's an interesting strategy of just hiding while running for president. It'll be interesting to see how that works out. President Tweedy is not good. I'd love to see Biden in a full Sylvester costume, though.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Yeah. I'm coming for you, President Tweety. And he's chasing the grandma around. So it's just because he tweets. That's the whole thing. You got it. He's got a big head. He's always tinking he taw tats That's true he does say that a lot
Starting point is 00:51:30 He's the more memorable character Of the two Any other physical Attribute he'd hit him on he has the same thing They both got fake teeth they both got fake Hair they both got fake tans like there's Not right if you want to get schoolyard with it Tom would be like so do you, bro.
Starting point is 00:51:45 At least neither of them have... No one in the world has worse veneers than Scoob. Oh, yeah. What is that? Let's get into it. All right, let's take a quick break, and then we'll talk about Scoob. I've been thinking about you.
Starting point is 00:52:04 I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a thinking about you I want you back in my life it's too late for that I have a proposal for you come up here and document my project all you need to do is record everything like you always do one session 24 hours BPM 110
Starting point is 00:52:20 120 she's terrified should we wake her up? absolutely not what was that? 110, 120, she's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare.
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Starting point is 00:56:21 But there were no movies. By default, it's the number one film, isn't it? There was a Capone movie by Josh Trank. That's gotta be trash. Oh, with Tom Hardy? Tom Hardy as Capone.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I'll watch that. He's my birthday twin. You put a lot of stock in birthday twins. That's a weird pact to make. I'll watch that. Hey, Tommy Lee Jones, birthday twin, baby. Tommy Lee Jones, that's a good commitment.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Tom Hardy birthday. Prince Harry. Look, look, Jack, we can go down this road. I got a birthday commitment to Andy Samberg and Christian Slater. Good pact. Oh, wow. Solid pact. I went to school with his brother.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Oh, really? Who was in The Great Good pack. Oh. Solid pack. I went to school with his brother. Oh, really? Who was in The Great Panda Adventure. Whoa. What a treat. So Scoob is riding the same wave as Trolls World Tour. It's a bunch of parents stuck at home with their kids looking for anything that will eat an hour of time, and Scoob fits the bill.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Scoob is exactly 90 minutes long, which is the first tip off that it's not very good. I was on a class with my son and one of the other kids was like, I've seen Scoob twice already. Like I was like, they just came in and vomited. What a time. Four year old. Yeah. already like that was like they just came in and four-year-old yeah um so uh jamie you actually watched scoop i was there yeah isaac and i got it friday night made some nachos made some margaritas sat down watch scoob so this is a scooby-doo movie in which he has human teeth yeah i i would like to go back
Starting point is 00:58:10 into the scooby-doo catalog and see if this movie is what originates scooby-doo having human teeth but yeah so this is like i didn't purse i mean i think for kids it's a kid's movie like whatever is good for kids i found the story to be very confusing there was too much going on mark walberg is like it starts out as like oh shaggy and scooby are friends you find out how your friends i didn't really want to know but it's nice to know that's cute that's nice then all of a sudden there's a huge pivot in the middle where they're like scooby-doo's's DNA needs to be used to become a superhero. And Mark Wahlberg is a disgraced... It's just like a movie that feels like it was kind of written by an algorithm. There's a superhero... So I want to read... Let me just read this plot
Starting point is 00:58:56 synopsis from JM, and I want you to let me know if this is true. Scooby-Doo, it turns out, is the descendant of Alexander the Great's dog. Yes. And Alexander built a literal gateway to hell. So Scooby-Doo is somehow genetically predisposed to open the gates of hell. They don't... Okay, so I will say I wasn't paying close enough attention to know if it was a literal gateway to hell.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I'll take Jam at his word for that. But there is a huge pivot where it all of a sudden becomes like a chosen one narrative for Scooby-Doo, where it's like all of a sudden, it's like your DNA, you're the only one that can close the portal. And then the mission shifts.
Starting point is 00:59:42 And then it's like Mark Wahlberg is playing like a bird man not actual bird man but it looks like bird man and he's a superhero Falcon and he's got like some it just like it feels like studio executives are like okay
Starting point is 01:00:00 kids like what superheroes let's just put one in Scooby Doo Alexander the Great. Alexander the Great. Hal. Simon Cowell. It's kind of chaotic. I also had a big problem with how they animated Simon Cowell.
Starting point is 01:00:14 It is so Uncanny Valley. Wait, what do you mean the way they animated it? Like it was too good? No. No. But if you look in the doc of how they animate Simon Cowell versus how they animate the Scooby-Doo teens, they animate the Scooby-Doo teens like cartoon characters, but they animate Simon Cowell to just look like himself. Oh, weird. And it's very jarring.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Sounds like Simon Cowell might have had some notes on how they animated him. Right. He doesn't have the cartoony eyes that the rest of the characters do. He's just like, just make it look like a photo realistic. And it's very, it's real. Like, we were like, what? Like, it's very bizarre.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Yeah, it looks like Polar Express. Sounds like, yeah, they mo-capped him, but then just traditionally animated everybody else. It's just, I mean, I will say, I didn't not, I don't regret watching it. It was fun. A lot happened. The portal, they closed the portal to hell at the end. Oh, thank God.
Starting point is 01:01:14 It's sort of like with Scoob, but it's also with the power of friendship. It's kind of unclear what, I don't know, like maybe a more astute viewer will know exactly what happened. But it was weird. And then in the middle, they have a bit where it's like a visual gag where they're in some sort of spaceship-y thing with Falcon.
Starting point is 01:01:35 And then their cheeks are dragged back and flapping. And it reveals that Scooby-Doo has a full set of human teeth. Do they comment on that, or is that your call? No, I paused it, and I rewound it, and I watched it again, and I paused it again, and I took a picture, and it's a full set of human teeth. Because he's never had fangs. No, but I feel like in the live-action ones
Starting point is 01:02:02 with Freddie Prinze Jr. and Sarah Michelle Gellar and Linda Carlini, he had dog teeth. They weren't people teeth. I could be wrong. Any animal with human teeth, it's very... Have you ever seen those fish that look like they have just a set of human teeth? Those are so disturbing.
Starting point is 01:02:22 It's just, why is that happening scoob is just a wild movie i would i would recommend watching it if you don't have to pay for it also i would recommend uh looking up the behind the scenes drama because this was the first scooby project in like 20 years where lillard isn't shaggy it's's Will Forte. And that was a big... And Lillard took to Twitter to express his... He was not having it. He was President Tweedy,
Starting point is 01:02:54 huh? He was President Tweedy, Will Forte, silence. Nothing. Wow. Drama. He's like, you're right, Shaggy would never say that. Come on, man. That's not Shaggy. Compare the Shaggies. Who does a better Shaggy?
Starting point is 01:03:09 Honestly, I am a huge Will Forte fan, but it's like, this is Lillard. I mean, yeah, Matthew Lillard. But this is Lillard's role, huh? This is Lillard's role. Hands off. It's just an impossible bar. I wonder if Lillard has become so shaggied out
Starting point is 01:03:25 that they just couldn't afford him for this, or maybe it seemed like they wanted to reboot the cast. There's Zac Efron as Fred, Gina Rodriguez as Velma. You're just like, okay, we're just getting a whole new cast. They recast Shaggy, but Lillard was shaggy from 2002 to 2019. He was a real legacy. It sounds like Lillard's main complaint about shaggy from 2002 to 2019. So it sounds like Lillard's main complaint about Shaggy was that it wasn't me.
Starting point is 01:03:50 All right, guys. We're going to move forward here. Let's talk Game of Thrones for some reason. Yesterday was the one-year anniversary of the finale of Game of thrones it is my reason uh i i am the reason we're talking about it i i don't know that just seems like a very very long time ago a different version of reality when we cared about game of thrones also it was just interesting to be reminded of how bad the
Starting point is 01:04:26 ending was, because I think there was part of me that was trying to like it, just because I didn't want it to be as far below the quality of the rest of the show as it was. But yeah, I was looking at some
Starting point is 01:04:42 screen caps of Peter Dinklage being like, and who's got a better story than Bran the Broken and just like that it's such a bad moment such a bad idea it was a fun moment to watch in a room though where everyone was like
Starting point is 01:04:58 no hissing at the TV basically it was great I think everyone was like, oh, fuck you. Basically, it was like sort of the sentiment in the office when we were all together.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Wow, remember that? Watching TV in groups? I know. It's such a nice memory to be angry in the same room. You guys were all just giving each other shoulder rubs in a circle, right?
Starting point is 01:05:18 Yeah, we were passing a didgeridoo around. Yeah, I didn't realize that at the time even, well, first of all yeah i didn't realize that like at the time even well first of all i didn't realize there were like individual uh critic reviews of each episode that like showed up on rotten tomatoes but if you look at that season there were only six episodes and it goes 92 87 73 and then 58%, 48%. It really falls off a cliff for those last three. Two to three, I think, is probably where
Starting point is 01:05:52 I guess you'd say it really began because that's a 14% drop. At least we went 5% between one and two. Three was the long night. That was the long battle scene. Everyone was like, oh oh man that's gonna be so tight like i heard they shot this battle scene for three years you can actually
Starting point is 01:06:13 see them aging uh yeah i think my biggest gripe with that i was like everyone should have died everyone should have died everyone should have died in that episode. I was emotionally prepared for everyone to be dead. Maybe they did. But then for almost everyone to live, and then the people who did die, died in such a stupid way. Yeah. And then, ugh. I mean, that's the thing.
Starting point is 01:06:35 It's funny. For a show that ended such a lame little wet fart in the end, it's affected so many things after this though which is funny because like as much as we're like angry about it it's it's it changed tv and like you know i'm i'm curious to see what the next show is of this like kind of scale uh because it's definitely like shown that we all as like viewers have an appetite for something like that yeah i don't think we're gonna have one for a little while i think westworld's as close as we've gotten but you don't you don't hear about westworld
Starting point is 01:07:12 the way you heard about how is that old fuckbot tv show it's weird man it went place it went places that i was like oh they're ending the series here and then rushed the whole thing. And I was like, still like kind of I think I read somewhere that this is the last season. I see why they're doing all this now. And then like a day before the finale air, they're like season four confirmed. I'm blown away that like I have no idea where they're going to go with it. And the dialogue is trash. God damn it, I'll watch it.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Man, I'm going further down the Scooby hole. I got to be honest. I've been there. I'm not listening to the Scoobiverse. Any of you are saying. There's so much Scooby stuff going on. any of you are saying. There's so much Scooby stuff going on.
Starting point is 01:08:06 The good news about Scoob is that Scoob is voiced by the original Scoob, Frank Welker. He took a break. Oh, shit. The OG Scoob. He's 74 years old. He's been Scoobing for over 50 years. He's still Scoobing to this day.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Isn't that nice? I love the idea of a film that's about his life, and it's like one of those Clint Eastwood one-last-job films where they're begging Frank Welker, but it's actually like it kills him to do it. I just really can't do it. He's like,
Starting point is 01:08:37 and then in between takes, he's like, popping blood into a napkin. They're like, yeah, we're going to have to do that again, Frank, and he's like yeah so wrestler Frank please not another Scoop movie one more Scoop
Starting point is 01:08:54 one more Scoop he's like a led like I love all the stories about like legacy voiceover actors cause now only celebrities do voiceover cause it's easy money so you don't really have those same legacy like that's what they do, Tom Kenny types, and Frank
Starting point is 01:09:10 Welker is one of them. He was Garfield on the Garfield show. He is Nibbler on Futurama. He was Megatron on Transformers. He was Curious George. Those old school Okay, Franklin. It's impressive, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Franklin, well. Yeah, it's definitely, like, you just used to be a thing where, like, that was truly a trade of, like, voice acting for animation and things like that back then. It's a dying art, yeah. I feel like there's, like, only a few. I mean, Tom Kenny is obviously, like, the leading guy.
Starting point is 01:09:42 And then there's, who voiced Tommy Pickles? Tara, Tara Strong that's a big one and then kind of Patrick Warburton there's not a lot of people left who all the voice actors worth their salt are in video games now oh that's true
Starting point is 01:09:58 yeah that's kind of like where it's migrated it was like two years ago or something they actually all went on strike because they weren't being treated like weren't allowed like proper amount of breaks after, you know, two hours of screaming over and over again, like for some call of duty thing. And then if they can get Chris Pratt to show up for three hours and just like mumble two takes of each line he makes a million dollars it's just silly yeah interesting point i just want to lightly flex my cousin's maternal great-grandmother penny singleton was the voice of jane jetson back in the day and she was badass though too she was also like a labor leader for like women that were in variety shows
Starting point is 01:10:45 like was testifying in front of the senate like in the 60s about like the treatment of like women on like these shows but yeah like singleton yeah penny singleton check her out rocks there the last the last thing i'll say about sorry sorry for backtracking and going back to school welcome to scoop talk the imdb page does say that this is this is the planned first installment in a scooby-doo cinematic universe hell yes so i like that so yeah that's like a weird dog eugenics theme where it's like his dna is introducing all this ridiculous dog DNA, hell, eugenic chosen one history. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Does it mean that they're going to do wacky races and all those old other Hanna-Barbera, or is it just straight up Scooby universe? I don't know. Hanna-Barbera stuff. I feel like it's very hard to reboot. Cause if you rewatch a lot of it now, a lot of it was not very good. I did.
Starting point is 01:11:51 I defy you to watch an old episode of the Flintstones and laugh even one time. It's mostly domestic abuse jokes. Uh, but is there really, but there's unfunny. I will, I will argue. And I've've tried because i like i love
Starting point is 01:12:07 animation i work in animation the flintstones is like borderline unwatchable it is deeply unfunny like it's holy shit yeah i just remember even as a kid i was like dude this shit is a whack like i couldn't even get into it as a kid without even knowing what the fuck was going on but anyways i i didn't even know about Wacky Races until you just said that. I was very confused. I used to watch Wacky Races a lot. I used to love that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:32 I used to have the cars and stuff. And it would be all the Hanna-Barbera properties, like Augie Doggie and Doggie Daddy and Captain Caveman and stuff like that. Was Grape Ape one of the characters? Sure. They had Droopy. They had the Jetsons.
Starting point is 01:12:52 They had a lot of good shit. They had the Smurfs, I think. Is that wrong? That could be wrong. I just know Grape Ape. Somebody had to have had them. Yeah. Well, Stephen,
Starting point is 01:13:05 it's been a pleasure having you. Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me at Wilbur with an E. Wilbur with an E. Spelled like that with the E.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Twitter, Instagram. Don't think about it. Don't follow me. Don't worry about it. It follow me don't don't worry about it it's fine i have an album coming out uh on may 26 it's called 16 bits you can pre-order it on itunes and amazon uh right now or just wait till it's on spotify you should follow steven's one of the funniest people out there. Stephen, is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Actually, something I want to bring up, so maybe Zite Nation can help me out with this. Well, there's an account. It used to be called Jeff's Wife.
Starting point is 01:14:02 And I've been following it for years. And it's this woman from Montana who just talks about her husband. And it's very funny. And I, for the life of me, could not tell if it is a sincere account or not. And I tried contacting him about it. I thought it might be a comedian friend who's like doing this account. But because it's so it's so good. Recently in December, she changed it to Jeff's ex-wife and became like Jeff. It said Jeff and I are getting divorced and it's Jeff's ex-wife now.
Starting point is 01:14:42 And it's just been a lot of really sincere, like the type of stuff a mom would pose. Here's what's going on in Missoula and stuff. And that is a whole other wrinkle. So if somebody can get back at me and tell me if Jeff's wife is real or not, I
Starting point is 01:14:59 need to know. God damn. Yeah. Jamie, where can people find you and follow you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can follow me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help, Instagram at Jamie Christ Superstar. What have we got?
Starting point is 01:15:18 We're doing on the Bechtel cast this week, we are doing Birds of Prey with Emily Yoshida. It's a really fun episode highly recommend and tweet i've been that is directly related to what we were just talking to uh about is my friend nick sorelli at nick sorelli tweeted just yesterday in the 1960s people in their 30s and 40s would get home from work and watch the Flintstones, which is just something to think about. Watch back old Flintstones clips and you'll be like,
Starting point is 01:15:49 boomers are wild. Or boomers parents, whatever. The greatest generation. The greatest generation, RIP. Yeah, the Flintstones advertised cigarettes like that too. They were for grownups.
Starting point is 01:16:05 I'll still stump for the vitamins, but I can't think of a content. Yeah, the vitamins are great. And I want to rewatch the John Goodman movie. And growing. Yeah, I bet the Goodman movie. I mean, it's not a bad concept. It's just that they were like,
Starting point is 01:16:23 you know what would be funny is if this was a riff on other boring sitcoms. Oh, yeah, it was the Honeymooners in prehistory. And those don't really hold up either. It's not a Flintstones-specific problem, but it's just funny because they've been doing it. Let's take that group and go further back in time. Even more things weren't okay. Let's regress even larger.
Starting point is 01:16:47 You like these archaic things? Let's put them in the stone age. You love literally archaic values. I still like the visual gags of Toilet Dinosaur being like, don't shit in my mouth. Like those jokes are so funny. Please don't shit in my mouth. It's a living.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Miles, where can people find you, and what's a tweet you've been enjoying Twitter, Instagram PlayStation Network, Miles of Grey also my other podcast 420 Day Fiance talking about 90 Day Fiance if you like that reality stuff some tweets I like first one's from H. John Benjamin
Starting point is 01:17:23 it says with public restrooms a major problem during coronavirus, there is going to be a huge uptick in shitting on the side of the road. He's predicting that for himself. And then this one is from NoController. It's a Gadsden flag and the snake underneath it just says let me die at Hooters.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Hell yeah. Jake Rejected Sacrifice tweeted, if you see a horse, that's symbolism, baby. Better find out what that horse means before it's too late. And Anime Police tweeted, fool me once, thanks. Fool me twice, cool, I love it, thanks. And then Ben Rosen tweeted... Ben Rosen tweeted,
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Starting point is 01:18:30 information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what is it gonna be today this is a track from an artist called clark um and the song is called ted but the remix is by bibio okay and that's all you need to know uh this is clark with ted bibio remix yes uh yeah it's just a great it's just a great uh track it's like you know it's it's electronic but it's very uh rooted in like this nice acoustic guitar picking uh and for all the listeners all the Zeitgang that's been hopping on, Red Dead, coming to my rescue in the wilds of West Elizabeth and Armadillo. Thank you so much. And this just has me thinking of that.
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