The Daily Zeitgeist - Roy Moore Disappears, Trump’s Insane Media Diet 12.11.17

Episode Date: December 12, 2017

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 10, Episode 1 of Das Daily Zeitgeist. Yeah. For December 11, 2017, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yes, it is I, Miles, don't lie, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yes, it is I, Miles Don't Lie, to the FBI. How is everybody? And we are thrilled to be joined by, for the second time, the hilarious stand-up and hilarious podcast guest, one of our audience and our favorites, first time around, Caitlin Gill.

Hey, mess with the Gill, you get the whole piranha. There you go. And here I am. That's pretty good. Ready to shine. Mess with the Gill, you get the whole piranha. I like that. Which she says any time she enters the room, too.

Oh, man, I should. Just kick open a door. You messed with the Gill, you're getting the piranha. I don't know how popular a dinner guest that would be. I feel like after the second time, people would be like, please don't invite her. She's broken three doors now. You can't tempt me. That's one of those jokes you could push past unfunny into really funny.

But I don't want to invest that much in that. Okay. I would actually would like to see that joke evolve over time. We're going whole hog. Eventually the absurdity of it will turn into that. would like to see that joke evolve over time like we're going we're going whole hog yeah eventually the the absurdity of it will turn into that caitlin what's something from your search history that is revealing about who you are oh man uh i definitely looked up a lot about the difference between dry skin and flea bites both for myself and my dog um again that i'm speaking very naturally

that is the first piece of revealing information that came into my mind to tell you. I'm sure there's grosser things in my search history, like stepfamilies doing things to each other. But I just like to explore America's fantasies. Anyway, yeah, both my dog and I were itching. I was trying to determine if it was our skin attacking us or other animals. Wait, did you have anything like visually to suggest like it was still up in the air? Because I feel like flea bites are like little little red they are little and red i found out when i was in atlanta for a couple months and i am allergic to fire ants and now i'm afraid of every insect biting me ever so

there was some cross research with the possibility of being allergic i just wanted to know why my dog was itchy and then i rubbed her with oil and now she's not itchy anymore. Yeah. Fish oil is great for dogs. Yes. I used a vitamin E-based oil thing. Anyway, so hot tips, Daily Zeitgeist listeners. Got an itchy dog? You just rub that shit with oil. What kind of oil? You can use anything. Motor oil?

I mean, I'd refrain. Okay. But if you want your dog to run right, you fill it up with motor oil every 3,000 miles. Don't you skip. Follow it up with palm olive to wash it off like they do those ducks. Caitlin, what's something that you think is overrated? Can I give you my underrated first? Because I have a pair here. They're a little bit related. Thank you for letting me shake up your paradigm. If anyone's going to shake it up, it's you, Caitlin. Underrated

night drives. I just took a night drive last night. I came back to L.A. from San Francisco because I wanted to be here with you for this podcast this morning. No traffic. No sun. San Francisco because I wanted to be here with you for this podcast this morning. No traffic. No sun. Beautiful moonlight. I don't have to look at the fields on the 5 because there's nothing much to look at. I'm not trying to insult you, Gustine, but honestly, honey, you're not that pretty from the outside. It was just – I shouldn't have called out a specific town.

Gustine, I said that name because I routinely use the gas station outside of your city. I respect you, and I'm glad you're there. Well, now they're going to be checking for you next time you go to that gas station. Like, hold on, Caitlin. God damn it, I ruined my five spot. I just love a night drive for its speed, and people underrate it because it's, I guess, nighttime when you'd rather be sleeping. But maybe you just sleep in as long as you can, and then you hit that Great American Highway in the nighttime.

Just you and truckers. So by night drive, you just mean like sort of traveling by car at night, rather. Because I know some people like to just go for a drive. I'm not one of those people. And I thought for a second you just meant like you know it's great just blowing some steam off with a night drive that's not great yeah i think that also might be underrated a little stressed can't sleep just take yourself out for a spin make sure you can't sleep yeah but i've never gone to this extent but uh some people will take their children who they can't get to sleep into the car and drive around because children fall asleep pretty easily in cars.

My friend Chris does that with his son, Oliver. I definitely miss that kid. And he'll call me from a van and be like, yo, Oliver's sleeping, but let's talk right now because this is the only time. I'm like, all right, cool. And he'll just be like, we're just chilling in the driveway right now. All right. And overrated. Finally, the eagerly awaited overrated.

Sleep. Who needs it, man? Yeah, fuck that. I'm fine eagerly awaited overrated. Sleep. Who needs it, man? Yeah, fuck that. I'm fine right now. I feel great. I definitely didn't chew one extra B vitamin gummy before I came here, just depending on the surge of power. No, I feel wonder.

Why sleep, guys? Just because your body demands it? What? Just because if you don't, you will actually die. I don't understand what the hell is about this sleeping thing. I mean, wow, you can do B vitamins and be like wired. That's great. Oh, I don't know if that actually works, but it's what I've told myself.

Is that what we're calling speed now? Yeah. Vitamin B gummies. That's going to be one of those things like a 1920 Sears catalog we look at now and it's like, you drugged out weirdos. Like 50 years, they're going to look back at my medicine cabinet. Like cabinet like can you believe she took 8 000 of her b12s on purpose this lady yeah that's right all right let's get into format we're trying to take a sample of the ideas out there changing the world trying to take the temperature of the shared consciousness of the human species for the nation at the very least. What do we think in the temperature? Like 99.5?

I don't know if it's hot. I feel like we're a little cold right now. All right. Cold core temperature? Maybe a 97.8. We're not quite at that 98.6. But, you know, what do I know? And the way we like to open up is by asking our guest what something is that the zeitgeist,

that the national shared consciousness has wrong in from their experience. Well, I'm the one who thinks sleep is overrated. Right. So maybe don't believe me. But cocaine is perfectly healthy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, right. Right. I mean, can't that just be my myth? No, I guess I think last time I was here, my myth had to do with the ability of people of size to make adequate love. Again, I don't know why I went to that. But there it is. I don't know. I think I'm stuck with the road.

And I guess the myth is that highways are full of America's best serial killers. And I'm going to say that maybe not. Maybe they've sought other jobs. I felt very safe on the highway in the past two nights. I'm going to say that America's highways are largely free of roaming serial killers. We're declaring it right here and now. Yeah. We at Cracked, we once interviewed a trucker and they told us that from that high vantage point, you can like see into other people's cars. Oh, yeah.

And people are masturbating and having a lot more sex than you would think while driving whilst driving on america's highways oh maybe this is a myth we need to talk about because honey yes yeah that's happening masturbating while driving seems wild yeah that's way more dangerous than drunk there's no way i'm gonna say that it's not i'm gonna say for a fact god am i the only person in the room who's done it? By honesty and vulnerability. By honesty and the death element. I feel it's less – I mean maybe people assume that it's rare for women.

It's not. It will really clear your mind. Well, I'm one of these people who has orgasms where I have no motor skill control at any point. I couldn't just be cool and hold the steering. I mean there's no way. I would crash the car and probably kill myself. We don't need to focus on this for long, but I'm fascinated.

There is no degree of severity or intensity for your orgasm. You have a one-note, high-pitched, super, all-powered orgasm every orgasm. Yeah, I guess so. I don't like sneezes. I would jerk the wheel. It's not a thing that I can control. I can't be like, all right, I'm going to have a mild one right now.

Okay, that's fair. This would be a time. So if I tried to have one while driving, I think everybody around me would be in some trouble. Yeah, so shout out to the people who have the steely nerves to masturbate while driving because maybe you guys are the real heroes. Steely nerves, boredom and shame, either one, whatever it takes. Yeah, just need that danger. Need to be flying through the air at 70 miles per hour to get things going. It's like the cousin of autoerotic.

Right, exactly. Auto? Oh! All right, I'll see myself out out thank you very much for auto erotic all right nick we can cut recording we got the episode we got it um all right let's get into uh the news of the day uh there was a terror attack this morning uh but that was not our president's first tweet of the day uh rather it it was his response to this amazing New York Times article that came out over the weekend. It might have come out on Friday, but it was actually

printed. It was their front page article yesterday in the Sunday Times in the actual paper paper version because I was on vacation. I read paper paper versions of newspapers when I'm on vacation. And in the paper is called President versus the presidency. But that's I don't think what it was called in the online version. But it was just sort of a run through of like a day in the life of Donald Trump during the first year of his presidency. And he wanted to let people know that he doesn't watch that much TV this morning in his first tweet of the day. But because because that's where the president started, that's where we're going to start. We'll get to the terror attack a little later on.

But so among the highlights, he drinks 12 Diet Cokes a day and watches anywhere from four to eight hours of TV a day. and watches anywhere from four to eight hours of TV a day. There's this great moment where they talk about not just the rumor that he watches a lot of TV, but his response to the rumor. So during his trip to Asia, he was handed a fact check sheet that mentioned this fact, that he watches four to eight hours of TV a day. And so during like the press scrum where the media, he goes back and sits with the media on Air Force One or they come up and hang with him. Somebody asked him a question about Roy Moore and his response was, believe it or not, even

when I'm in Washington or New York, I do not watch much television. People that don't know me, they like to say I watch television, people with fake sources, you know, fake reporters, fake sources. But I don't get to watch much television, primarily because of documents. I'm reading documents a lot. I actually read much more. I read you people much more than I watch the TV. I haven't been able to devote very much time to it. Hey, I read documents.

I'm too busy reading these documents. Well, I'm reading paperwork. They put words on the pieces. I don't watch the electronic flipbook. It's like the press is asking him, sir, did you get a D in history? Sir, did you get a D minus in history? I did not get an F in algebra. Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're asking you about a separate failure. The question we were asking you was about a separate fault. My favorite quote from the article is not a quote that he said, but just the way the article is written. And is not not a quote that he said, but just the way the article is written, they say to an extent that would stun outsiders. Mr. Trump, the most talked about human on the planet, is still delighted when he sees his name in the headlines and he is on a perpetual quest to see it there. One former top adviser said Mr. Trump grew uncomfortable after two or three days of peace and could not handle watching the news without seeing himself on it. So when it seems like, wow, we're actually having moments where Trump isn't dominating the headlines and then he suddenly surges back to the headlines by doing something crazy, that is by design.

He is like, whoa, Trump has not been making people completely terrified or angry on a daily basis for a while. And his addiction to Twitter, basically, and social media, that feedback loop of like, I do the thing and then I get likes or retweets. It's permeated into like, okay, now I've conquered Twitter. Now go another level, I guess, world news, which is like the ultimate Twitter. And I can just be like, oh, I'm going to say one thing. Oh, now look at me. I'm back on the pages what's interesting too about that there's another line

from that article about how he'll even call people up when he thinks he has a fire tweet and one of it says in june according to a longtime advisor he excitedly called friends to say he had the perfect tweet to neutralize the russia investigation he called it a quote witch hunt they were unimpressed. Oh, my God. Can you imagine if a comedian friend did that to you? Oh, I got a fire take. Yeah.

Oh, God. It's funny that, you know, people, political analysts have been talking about Trump with, you know, he's using this strategy that every time the news gets serious about Russia or another scandal that could harm his presidency, he strategically says something ridiculous on Twitter to distract us all, as if there isn't a day when there's not a story that could take down his presidency. That's every day. There is no master plan behind his dumb toilet tweets. He's just crapping and crapping. That's all that's happening. I've been watching too much Twilight Zone. There's a classic episode that you probably know as a pop culture reference about a little boy who can do anything he wants with his mind and a whole town that just appeases him because he's terrifying. He can wish you into the cornfield and then you just disappear into the cornfield where all the other bad things went. Right. So everything's good.

Oh, that's very good that you did that. It's very good that you made that human being disappear into a horrible, nameless fate. That's very good. Because made that human being disappear into a horrible, nameless fate. That's very good. Because they're scared of them. And I knew that episode is like a cultural touchstone, but I didn't remember the ending. And I watched it recently, and there is no ending. The town just stays like that. That shitty kid wishes a nice man into the cornfield, and then the end of the episode is like i guess that was great i get he turns a man's head into a jack-in-the-box so it pops off his body and then they his parents beg him to wish that

grotesque vision into the cornfield that's good end of the episode that's what we're living in yeah it's good that you tweeted that mr president a horrified cowering staff hanging around a toe-headed little idiot boy who can wish people into a cornfield or, you know, a detention center with his dumb mind. Exactly. So speaking of cowering staff, the article says, During the morning, aides monitor Fox and Friends live or through a transcription service, in much the way commodities traders might keep tabs on market futures to predict the direction of their day. If someone on the show says something memorable and Mr. Trump does not immediately tweet about it,

the president's staff knows he may be saving Fox News for later viewing on his recorder and instead watching MSNBC or CNN Live, meaning he is likely to be in a foul mood to start the day. They're like, uh-oh, he's going to be mad. He's not watching his favorite show. Right. America is, oh, God.

It's like we're a housewife hoping we don't burn the roast so we don't get hit again. This is ridiculous. He also said before, the article also mentions that before taking office, he told top aides to think of each presidential day as an episode in a television show in which he vanquishes rivals. That's the person deeply connected with reality. Right. Reality TV. Reality television. Right.

But even like that's – he's thinking about it as like carefully plotted, unrealistic. He's like, so every one of my days should be like a movie where there's a Hollywood ending where I like am the hero and you make me believe that. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

You totally kicked Kim Jong-un's ass. Yeah. And he's like, and I want it to be like surprising, like a TV show, you know, the plot should like, it should kind of come out of nowhere. I should be blindsided by how great I am. Sir, I think your diaper's leaking or you're just regularly urinating. I'm not sure what it is, as you say. A couple of things I know was the food thing in this article, too. No. So that is just another detail from inside the Trump administration.

I think this was actually from during the campaign. It was because it's from Corey Lewandowski's campaign memoir, which is about to come out. The Washington Post pulled out some details that are just unbelievable. But obviously, it has to be from his campaign because Corey Lewandowski was fired after not that much time. But yeah, there's some great details about. his diet is two big macs two filet fish and a chocolate milkshake always and he doesn't know how to eat pizza no he scrapes the fucking toppings off and doesn't eat the dough he just eats like molten cheese sauce and toppings that's how this man eats pizza because like in another article like i

think it was an us weekly or something he's like i never eat the dough right i never eat the dough i don't eat the best parts i don't eat i don't eat i never eat the dough it's like whoa dude that's bragging that's a fucking that's the scariest shit is if i saw someone eat a pizza like that like you would say something if imagine if you were just in a room with like eating pizza getting to know someone and you see someone just freakishly scrape the toppings off and then just fork and knife job the cheese and toppings. Just like slop.

Yeah. Just formless slop. And you're like, whoa, whoa, that's it. That's cool, huh? What do you got going there? I never ate the dough. I'd be like, we got to get the fuck out of here. This dude is crazy.

Think of that as an independent dish. Right. It's a sauce swirl of melted sort of cheese with sliced meat and kind of cooked vegetables yeah but that's how a kid eats it you know what i mean like he's like i only want the good part i'll eat the cheese and the toppings actually there is a mention of his eating habits in the new york times piece uh They mentioned how he always relished gossiping over plates of well-done steak, salad slathered with Roquefort dressing and bacon crumbles, tureens of gravy and massive slices of dessert with extra ice cream.

Was this article written by an alien? Because they just said massive slices of dessert. What? Like, they just. Also, where is all that? What's all the gravy for? Yo, the steak, man. I guess that's how he eats steak is he, first of all, burns it to a crisp so it's inedible,

but then he softens it up with gravy. Oh my God. Bless you. Just take a regular steak and put a little butter on it, buddy. That's what you're doing. It's almost like every one of his meals is like a challenge. Like nothing can kill me. Yeah. Oh, my God.

It's like that YouTube channel. Epic Meal Time. Right. It's like, how can I make the most disgusting thing ever? Right. I just also love the phrase gossiping. Like, who are you talking about over that meal? Right.

Someone who's horrified watching you eat. That's like, so you see how I fucking own Kim Jong Un. Did you see what becky did the other day oh my god i can't believe she was wearing that and you're like yes yes mr president that's great yes thank you i'm almost more impressed by him than anything like the fact that he can put away 12 diet cokes in a day like diet coke if i drink one which i do like which you are during every recording uh i feel like I've poisoned myself. But it's like a good caffeine delivery system.

But imagine you're a person who hates himself so much that he's trying to poison himself. Right. But, like, he's just, it gives him power. Right. He's powered up. If you'll recall my Diet Coke position from the last time I was here. You were right. I was wrong.

You're not wrong. I mean, you're right if you love it. But 12 of them is definitely... A lot. Yes. Yeah. That is... What is that?

144 ounces? It's too many ounces. That is. That's good math. That's wild. Can you imagine just doing that as shots? Oh, my God. No.

Like, just tiny shot glasses. Yeah. You'd have to power out. Think about it. That's two and a half power hours. Right. Of Diet Coke a day. Yep. Oh, no. Like just tiny shot glasses. Having a panic attack thinking about it. Think about it. That's two and a half power hours. Right. Of Diet Coke a day. Yep.

Oh, God. My body. My body. Right, right, right. More poison. He has like a button. More. I want more poison.

More aspartame. He does have- It's called aspartame, Mr. President. Aspartame. No, it's an ass and it's part of me. He does have a button, allegedly, that he presses, his Diet Coke button. That's right next to the lock the doors button. Yeah.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. So we want to get right into Sex Crim Watch, a.k.a. Mengazi. Mengazi.

It's a portmanteau. And that's just the rest of the episode. Yeah, keep talking, boys. Keep talking. Mario Batali. How surprised are we by this? Not very. Super producer Anna Hosnier was saying that she saw his appearance on the untitled Action Bronson project and that he was just all sorts of sort of out of his mind.

Just I don't know, all over the place. And so she wasn't surprised by it. But, Miles, you were saying you weren't surprised by it for another reason. Well, no, I mean, I just I have I have friends that work in restaurants and I know how they like to blow steam off, like especially after work. Uh, and I've also read kitchen confidential, which was my first glimpse into like kitchens and these dudes fucking are wild. Like they're doing drugs, they drink all the time. They're like, not that they're evil people, but these aren't people who are like, they're

not trying to conduct business in a overt, like an overly professional way. Like they're just dudes who are in the back of a hot room all day and like there's no rules right so consuming and making things and yeah absolutely and also when you look at it too like they're like after like looking into this a little bit more it the hospitality industry has like the highest reported incidences of sexual harassment like there's no other industry that comes close right so this is interesting because i think we've talked about, you know, is this sort of movement going to be just a Hollywood thing? And I mean, I guess you could say it still is because Batali is sort of a Hollywood chef.

But that's a crazy statistic that there are industries and the restaurant industry being the top one where 85% of employees – There's a restaurant workers advocacy group that has a – like based on some of their research, they found that 80% of workers in the restaurant industry report being sexually harassed. 80 fucking percent. That is absurd. Yeah. Yeah. It's like totally normal.

It's like it's almost a normalized part of our culture that we have until now just totally accepted as being okay. I mean, if you watch our ancient media, like say in the 90s or even before, like the idea – like the figure of a waitress in pop culture, a waitress in particular, is just always like a butt to be slapped or like a face to put buttons on a vest. And then you get to look at her tits because there's buttons on her. Like even in media, which seems to be like as a discussion is this is only a Hollywood thing. Like Hollywood portrays that industry as a den of sexual harassment. Right, right, right. And the reality is painfully, terrifyingly true. And as scary as a Weinstein is is and he's a fucking monster scary guy like there are Weinsteins like every Applebee's Chili's TGI Fridays and like drive-in diner

anywhere right like it or at least in 85 percent of them right yeah it's a horrifying it's a in such an intense industry there's a study I don't remember who did it or where it was, but I believe that I remember it, that the two most stressful professions by just measurable stress level are like surgeon and server. Those are the two. How hard you work in the restaurant industry goes so underappreciated that almost how hard you suck goes underappreciated. Like nobody sees it. Nobody sees how hard you're working. Nobody sees how dark and kind of gross it can get. It's just, you know, I guess tip 25% next time you go out.

Right, right. Because somebody got her butt patted or worse to bring you that ranch dressing. Well, yeah. It seems like there's even some of the other articles about sort of the harassment in the industry too. It's like it's also kind of a regular story for servers to be trapped in the walk-in refrigerator constantly so yeah i mean we'll see what how like this like you said if in the beginning we thought it was like limited to to hollywood and i guess batali is some extension of that but we'll see like i i hope that this creates a actual sea change or

cultural shift in that industry not only not just hollywood but hollywood is reflecting what's happening in the rest of the world so the same way i mean as a person in comedy this is a crazy thing to keep looking at but the same way there was a machine around louis ck to make it okay for him to jerk off in front of women and then lie about it that is a reflection of the machine that keeps your garbage shift leader there at your garbage restaurant job. Right. Even though he's done creepy shit to every girl on staff. The same machine is working.

Don't complain. It's easier if you don't complain. I don't know. Wear a different shirt. He'd wear green. He hates green. Like that. Hollywood didn't invent that.

It didn't come from here. That was the world. And then Hollywood used that model and it there's too much light shining here in the showbiz and it shined on some darkness and that darkness is revealing that it wasn't it's everywhere yeah right everywhere is darkness and i guess the the question is will people in other other industries have a mechanism for reporting these people because the the reason that this sort of sea change is happening in Hollywood is because they're able to you know get media

attention because these are famous people behaving like monsters if it's your shift manager at Applebee's then you know who is going to give enough of the shit when you report right oh wait oh wait. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, of inappropriate sexual behavior. Sexual behavior he could engage in would be considered appropriate. So Rachel Crooks, Samantha Holvey, and Jessica Leeds are three of Trump's accusers. Rachel Crooks, who was forcibly kissed by Trump at Trump Tower when she worked as a receptionist. Samantha Holvey was a former Miss USA contestant who says the president walked into the dressing room to inspect the women. Not just lie.

So you're there to inspect the AC unit. Right. Say anything else. AC unit can mean whatever you want it to mean. Just you could even say like women were there two fellow fishes in here. I could have swore I left him in here. Anything. And then Jessica Leeds, who said Trump groped and kissed her on an airplane.

Oh, you can't get out of an airplane. You can't leave. You're in the sky. Right. Yeah. It's reminiscent of the scene in Star Wars where Han Solo has Princess Leia trapped against the – like, where are you going to go? It's like a boat. It's very rapey.

So we actually have a clip from so we want to every time we bring up Mengazi, just, you know, play a clip of what exactly Trump is being accused of. And we have audio of The Apprentice star Summer Zervos, who so she met with Trump once in Trump Tower and he kissed her and she was weirded out by that, but was like, you know, celebrities are strange. He was doing it almost as a greeting. And then he invited her to a meal in his hotel room, which we now know post post-Mengazi, that that is a red flag, but she accepted the invitation. She thought they were just going to meet in his room and then go out to dinner, but obviously he had other ideas. I was standing in the entryway.

To my left was a bedroom, and I saw Mr. Trump's clothes on the bed. I did not see him, but he greeted me with hello and a sing-song voice. It sounded like, hello. I thought the mistake had been made, and Mr. Trump thought he was speaking to someone he was more familiar with. I walked further into the living room, away from the bedroom, and sat down. I waited for about 15 minutes until Mr. Trump emerged. He had his suit on.

I stood up, and he came to me and started kissing me open-mouthed as he was pulling me towards him. I walked away, and I sat down in a chair. He was on a left seat across from me and I made an attempt at conversation. He then asked me to sit next to him. I complied. He then grabbed my shoulder and began kissing me again very aggressively and placed his hand on my breast. I pulled back and walked to another part of the room.

He then walked up, grabbed my hand, and walked me into the bedroom. He then proceeded to grope her breast and, quote, began thrusting his genitals on her. So that's disturbing. Yep. Okay, so I left my body. Yes. Ugh.

Well, you know. Thank you for playing that. Thank you. Thank you for saying thank you for playing that thank yeah thank you thank you for using your words raise your voice that happened to you yeah that happened to you that happened to you yeah that's and we want to remind people that's sort of the reason why we keep playing like on friday rachel crooks we had her account of her interaction with with trump where he tried to basically kiss her. You know, because we are holding many other people accountable. And it's still important that, man, because like we say, it's so easy to fucking forget or just not want to remember this other shit that, you know, we also have to remind ourselves that the fucking the person holding the highest office is also, yeah, a fucking sex

crim and he's assaulting women. And again, because of like this very similar power structures that protect the Weinsteins and the Louies of the world, they protect Trump, too, because people have a lot to lose by this man not being in office. And that's just a shame. And I think, you know, we have to we have to keep we have to keep on this. I don't know who's left that has a lot to lose. That's a list of like 20 people, and they're all like the Order of the Twelve or some Illuminati conspiracy shit.

I don't know who's left that's benefiting. I mean, look at that tax plan. I know. Right. some claims that she is doing this because Gloria already paid her $500,000, but they have produced witnesses who came forward and were like, yeah, no, she told us about this, like right after it happened. And before he ran for president, because his claim is that this is like all part of a liberal, you know,

establishment conspiracy. It's the same Roy Moore is using the same playbook. Yeah. You know, it's it's it's all it's all liberal, transgender, gay, social justice warriors who are trying to, you know, ruin me, smear a good man. I've been a proud Democrat all my life. And this party is far too inept to execute such a broad sweeping conspiracy. Right. Right.

To, you know, design and manufacture these stories of women dating back decades that all accuse this guy of the same behavior. But yeah, somehow that's cooked up by a party that can't agree on a slogan that works. Like there's no world in which the Democrats are capable of weaving this web. Yeah, who have proven time and time again that uh very capable of fucking even the simplest things up yes yes let alone yeah Doug Jones is barely winning yeah I don't know if he is winning who knows yeah yeah that's one interesting thing Fox News keeps being like Doug Jones up by double digits but I don't know I I feel like it's them trying to they're gaslighting Republicans to get out yeah gaslighting Republicans to get out the vote uh But so on this theme of non-famous sexual harassment, we wanted to talk about Silicon Valley because, Miles, you have some friends.

I have friends who work in Silicon Valley and talking to them, it's interesting that because, you know, Silicon Valley is notoriously just a very hostile place for women to work, that there was some feeling that you wouldn't be surprised if there was like this backlash coming. And it's possible in many industries. And I guess that, you know, a lot of these men who are in positions of power aren't really looking at these accusations as wait this behavior is appalling unacceptable that is why it needs to stop rather than uh some people got loud enough and they got their way so you know like fuck it like i guess they win today but we're not doing anything wrong and that's like kind of a very scary prospect right because like this idea

of like moral licensing we can see the pendulum swing all the way back very quickly. Like so, you know, the idea of moral licensing is that sort of, you know, if you say you give yourself to do something bad because you've been good all day or you've done good enough. So like whether it's, you know, like, oh, well, I can eat this because I ate, you know, nothing against my diet for the rest of them. I can just eat this entire cake or, you know, we voted for Obama. So we we're not racist that means we can vote for trump now because i did the good thing already and so it's it's what's what's worrying is that that phenomenon could be at work even in this sort of moment we're at in history if like are people actually acknowledging what they're doing is actually unacceptable or some people also kind of trying to protect their egos, their way of thinking, their worldview by just saying, you know, paying lip service to these things, but not actually internalizing or understanding that,

like, wait, no, this is not the way the world needs to be going forward. Right. Yeah. And I mean, with Silicon Valley, I mean, it's white men are still in almost all of the positions of power. So I feel like a lot of these cases, people are know, women don't belong in the workplace, essentially, and that forcing women to like get jobs at Google was like hurting Google. That was something that had been up for weeks, apparently, before and that his managers were aware of. And then it just broke publicly. And that's when he suddenly got fired. But, you know, there's a crazy article about the sort of sexual discrimination at Tesla

and these companies that are beloved in America where they will, female employees will hold a company wide meeting where they're like women are being discriminated against and it'll seem like everyone's doing the right thing. And then they'll have a meeting with one of the higher, higher-ups and they'll be like, okay, here's your severance package for bringing this up because they can get away with it. Right. And again, these companies too, they're dealing with massive amounts of money that paying settlements is probably nothing to them. Oh, they're not worried about it? Yeah. It's like, well, it could be seen as a cost of doing business.

Yes, it is. And it's so funny to listen to how men feel about this because there's men, like it seems like you guys both are, where it's like this behavior is disgusting. It's so amazing to watch this change where people are being held accountable for it i assume that like i have you look back at your past actions and think about you know situations that you might have done something differently and you grow you change and then there's this other reaction that i see for men and women but men uh where it's like i guess they're coming for me now like who knows what page in my history somebody is going to wildly misinterpret that I certainly shouldn't self-examine. Oh, it's the witch hunt.

We better tighten up the rules because if we don't, they'll get away with telling on us. Right. We better raise the – we better get ready to pay more settlements because they're going to be coming in now. Oh, how inconvenient for me. Oh, what's the next lawsuit? It's a perspective that seems to pretty much prevail in Silicon Valley for a bunch of reasons, and one of them is all that money. Right. Oh, what's the same company that's like making devices that recognize our faces, decide our desires and cater to us, that listen to us in our homes. I don't necessarily want the people making those products that look into my everyday life,

that know everything about me and my word search history and whether or not I'm being bitten by fleas or have dry skin. I don't need the people making that to be dickholes who think that I can't do math because I have a vagina. I don't need that. Right. I would really prefer to have a broader perspective involved in creating the technology that peers into my innermost life. Right. There's this effect that I forget. I think I read about it for the first time, like in high school and the People's History of America, the Zen book where he talks about how the U.S. Department of Defense used to be called the War Department.

And then they changed their name to the Department of Defense the second they started fighting offensive wars because just to like do the opposite, essentially to, you know, cover things up. I'm reminded of that story every time I think of Google's, uh, motto being don't be evil. It's like be googly. Right. Right. Just be, don't be evil is, is like such a transparent,

I don't know. Is it that easy to be evil? Right. That you're telling me? Well, don't be evil. Right. Oh,

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So we want to at least mention the failed terror attack in Times Square in one of the subway stations, I would be most horrified to be attacked in. The guy was walking onto the A.C.E. when he blew himself up with a poorly built improvised explosive device. This is actually the second time so time square is always used as the you know threat like what if a terrorist brings a suitcase dirty bomb into time square then like that's that's the scary thing but so far we've had now two terror attacks attempted in time square that have just been completely fucked up like there's this one where the guy blew himself up with a bomb that was so poorly built that it didn't even kill him uh and i guess it injured four other people so it's not funny to talk about how poorly built it is but uh and then there was another guy who was actually funded i didn't realize this i knew that there was like a failed attack uh back in 2010 apparently he was

financed by the pakistani taliban and was the the guy who left a car on a really crowded touristy street in Times Square. And people like a street vendor was like, hey, police, that car over there has smoke pouring out of it. And there are firecrackers going off inside of it. And I guess they had used the wrong type of fertilizer. They were trying to Timothy McVeigh it. So he just made a big firecracker? Right. He just made a firecracker in his car.

I think the firecrackers were actually the detonation device. And it's really hard for an individual to change the world. Like it takes a lot of steps and it's pretty difficult. And our own homegrown terrorists aren't any better at it. Timothy McVeigh blew up the outside of the Oklahoma City building because he didn't know his truck wouldn't fit inside of its lower parking lot. So it like just that. I mean, the rage, the impotent rage. Somebody has to feel the drive a vehicle full of ready to explode shit into a public space.

It clouds your mind and it really prevents you from doing some of your very important pre-planning. Right. Got to do that pre-pro. You really do. Yeah. So I don't know. I can't say whether we are just in like one very small thread of reality where the two people who tried to attack Times Square fucked up or if there's something about our

security apparatus that makes it hard for these people to build good bombs to attack Times Square. It clearly must be because I feel like these people seem to be – they're definitely not sophisticated people with experience handling explosives. They're just probably reading something off the internet and then making a mess of it and i also feel like if you're actually buying like the kinds of things that you need to really make devastating bombs like there there probably are apparatus out there to like kind of keep it on you yeah to scan like oh wait how much uh you know of this given thing are you buying i mean look it's it's hard to say like you're glad that a terrorist attack didn't go well. But yeah, it's...

Yeah. I mean, they talk about after an athlete has five amazing games, they're like, well, you can expect him to return to the average about where you would expect things to go. I feel like you could say the same about terror attacks. Like 9-11 went as well as like everything went perfectly. That was like Reggie miller in the fourth quarter right that was reggie miller just like making 33s in a row like it was just al-qaeda was unconscious that day man they were just like nailing everything like they didn't

leave any loose change around and now and now we're seeing a return to the average. I think that is very true, but it's also what makes terror so completely effective. Right. Because even when it doesn't go according to horrible, destructive, evil plans, it's still fucking terrifying. Yeah, and it puts it in your mind. And it calls on individuals to rise above fear, which is a tough thing to ask human beings to do. And we have to do it every day. And it is difficult and scary. We love you.

Yeah. And I know earlier you were talking about like, like if there's like an obsession with New York, especially like as a target. And I don't know if that's media created or whatever that is, like why terrorists feel New York is always a good place to do that. But I even find myself like being a West Coast person. Like when I go to New York, there are times like,

cause I used to work for a company that was like in the tower or at the new world trade center. And like, when I go there, like you can't help, but even when you visit New York, think of like, like just the terror attacks.

Yeah. And I think that's like a very, like you're saying, Caitlin, like a weird thing that even if a attack doesn't go right in my, even in my mind, subconsciously, you're like,

wow, like things are possible here or they feel more real even in my subconscious, you're like, wow, like things are possible here or they feel more real or whatever. And that is like where the terror aspect comes in. Yeah. And it is the most American. It like strikes at everything about America's ideals, like the great melting pot. And this is where all of our, I mean, if things made sense, made sense, it would be the capital of America. And also it's a lot of people on top of each other, which also makes sense as a terror target. Let's get into the Golden Globe nominations, which –

Natural transition. Exactly. Are you scared? I'm good at this. Let's distract ourselves. Right. exactly i am are you scared let's distract ourselves right um so you know get out got nominated for best comedy uh for some reason but uh and calling that economy comedy is a violent act right well that's also because that's how the studio submitted it right right so it's not that

the the old elderly people of the holly Press Association were like, that was a great comedy. Yeah. I just laughed and laughed at that. Poor boy's fear. The Shape of Water was the most nominated film, followed by, I think, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri, which I saw over the weekend. What did you think? Very good. I thought it was very good.

Although I think it's criticism. People who have criticized it were right, and I loved every minute of it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also saw Girls Trip over the weekend, and I thought that was amazing. I thought I would have nominated that for Best Picture.

That was so good, and Tiffany Haddish was mind-breakingly good. Google her name and then watch everything she's ever done and every time she's been on television. I don't know if there is a more charming human being. Neither the movie or Tiffany Haddish were nominated, which is insane. But again, look, so I have an intimate relationship with the Hollywood Foreign Press in the form that my mother is in the HFPA. And a lot of the people in that vote are older. So they're not quite as in tune with those kinds of things.

So I'm not totally surprised. But, yeah, like it's tough because you're not really getting a fair shake or like a good look at everything that came out and what could be good. There are a few things that seem surprising, too, because even with Lady Bird got a ton of nominations, but Greta Gerwig didn't get a director's nod or anything like that. But the Golden Globes aren't perfect, much like most award shows, because inevitably, too, these nominations will probably affect how the Academy members vote, too.

Sure, sure. Can I ask how I, Tonya, did? I don't know. i ask how i tanya did i don't know any knobs i comma don't know so i saw that over the weekend and if that is playing anywhere near you check it out run yeah don't wait go go go um it's so good i i was disappointed logan didn't get a nomination i thought that was uh really great yeah maybe as as good as superhero comic book movies have been with the possible exception of Dark Knight. And the crazy one for me, I always pay attention to best screenplay because I feel like in the Oscars, at least best original screenplay is actually the place where they – I don't know if the old people just sit that one out or what. I don't know if like the old people just sit that one out or what, but it's the one where they actually give the award to like the best movie or like the thing that I actually was most impressed by. They didn't nominate Get Out for best original screenplay in the Golden Globes, which is insane to me because that seems to be like one of the groundbreaking screenplays of the past like decade right yeah it seems like that should have been should have been up there um so hopefully that just gives the

academy an example of something not to do when when they're uh nominating has the writers has the writers guild had their nominations up for film yet i know that i don't know he came out well i think hopefully you think that the writers guild would at least acknowledge that much because i don't know i think it i think it's over some of these people's heads in the hfpa super producer anna just informed me that itania is up for best comedy slash musical you know head to head with get out right two films that you could easily compare uh and also calling itania comedy is a touch dismissive. I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's a biopic. I don't know if it's a docu-slash-mockumentary.

Because I think they submitted Wolf of Wall Street as a comedy too that year. That's it. This year also. It's just weird because it's – that they even create an opportunity for someone to submit a film. The Martian was a comedy. Yeah. And you do that because like Best Picture is too congested. Right.

And you'd be like, oh, well, here's a good way to like – we can say it has this bend. I think it's kind of gaming the system. I feel like – Yeah. The Martian had a lot of laughs. I could – like I didn't think that one was quite as crazy as Get Out. Get Out is – Yes.

Get Out is not funny. It's not a comedy. Well, I think – It's brilliant. It's perfect. But then the people argue that it's like satirical at its core. No. Right.

No, that's why it's a horror film. Right. Because it isn't. Right. But again, this is how the studio was trying to rationalize why they submitted it as a comedy. I saw Get Out on a plane, and it's one of those movies that sticks to your ribs. Wish I'd seen it in theaters. It deserves it.

But I wound up catching it on a plane, and I had to get out of my seat and just walk around the aisle of the plane for a minute and i just wanted somebody else to be watching it so i could be like can we talk about this right now right nobody wanted to talk about it right now but that movie uh i think it's brilliant it deserves every accolade it gets uh it is not a comedy yeah i have never risen from my seat out of physical discomfort oh yeah yeah at anything except for meet the parents oh and also they capture like some of the nuances of like the very sort of subtle forms of racism people of color experience like whether it's like man you're so cool right like that version too where you're like i was well the first time i saw it i was like

fuck bro like that's some real shit like it's not. There are such good moments in that film that like really are, they're just so honest, but yeah, it went told against like in the backdrop of the story, it's, it's even crazier. Uh, all right.

And we just want to go out reminding everybody, uh, today or tomorrow, depending on when you're listening to this is the Alabama Senate race. It is, uh, Roy Moore day in America. So I don't know.

Please go vote for Doug Jones if you are in Alabama. If you know anyone there, please tell them to not vote for Roy Moore. It's been a strange final couple days for a couple reasons. One, there's just absolutely no consensus on who's winning. And like I said earlier, Fox News claims that Roy Moore is down by double digits. But then, you know, most sane polls are saying that very close. It's very close and that Roy Moore is at least up by a couple percentage points. percentage points. What's really weird, though, and Miles, you can speak to this a little bit, is that so the last four days of of an election are you were saying it's known as like get out the vote. Yeah, GOTV weekend.

Right. Yeah. And that's where you really have to go knocking doors, going through your voter rolls, making sure you're calling people who you've ID to supporters to remind them to get out the vote on Tuesday. Tell your friends and family, blah, blah, blah. Like it's really it's the it's the most important final push to really make sure that you activate all your supporters before an election. And like, yeah, when I was working politics, I did a lot of campaigns too where you don't sleep.

You start, you like wake up like at five on Friday and you maybe sleep like eight hours the entire weekend until Tuesday because you're just doing so many things to get this done. And yeah, Roy Moore has been invisible since Tuesday. Last Tuesday. Fucking vanished. Like in most campaigns, if your candidate is not in front of a crowd that is cheering, you are doing a bad job at this point in the election. Oh, absolutely. And he has – they've just hidden him, which is. It could be good.

I mean, it could be a good move. It might just be brilliant. It might be like very shrewd because, you know, they know. They've installed a special bench in a playground. Okay, this is tribal. You are voting for Team Red. You are not voting for Roy Moore. Forget that you're voting for a pedophile.

So I don't know. It's interesting. You know, whatever happens, we'll probably be talking about it. Well, we'll see, because it's going to say a lot because, you know, the young Republicans of Alabama are like, absolutely not. There are many people who are in the Republican establishment who are like really having really serious doubts about the party because of this, because like, wait, where the fuck are we? Like, have we become that partisan that we are just going to overlook these like very credible accusations against this person? There's literally no one better to run for Senate in all of Alabama. This was the cream of your crop?

Yes. This guy? I mean, you could have had fucking Luther Strange. But because he's not a Bannonite, that's the other thing, too, is like you have Bannon behind the scenes, like leaning on Sean Hannity to retract him like his ultimatum to get him to like explain himself. Or and also clearly leaning on trump because suddenly the rnc and the white house are like full roy moore it's it's it's wild so you never know uh what the fuck is gonna happen hopefully the right fucking thing happens yeah it's gonna be really interesting also just because of trumpism and bannonite type. Like, you know, there was the Virginia election where the guy supported by Bannon and somewhat

like linked to Trump lost. But this is a full throated like Trumpism. You know, Trump didn't endorse him at first during the election, but he was sort of the Trumpist candidate, Trumpist, the Trumpiest of the Trump. Frank Rich just wrote an article in New York Magazine called After Trump that is really interesting because it talks about how he thinks Trumpism will outlast Trump and is more powerful than Trump.

Absolutely. You know, he pointed to the primary where the, you know, very clear candidate who represents Trump's values and the values that got Trump elected won over the candidate that Trump officially endorsed just based on his gut, who was more of an establishment person. also be a test of how powerful the sort of populist right wing Trumpism is in terms of, you know, whether Roy Moore is able to disappear enough to get elected. And then also then brings up what happens if he gets elected. And then what will the GOP do if he is actually part of the body of the Senate? Yeah, we shall see. Caitlin, this was so much fun. Gentlemen, it is always a delight. To go out on the Senate. Yeah. We shall see. Caitlin, this was so much fun. Gentlemen, it is always a delight.

To go out on that note. Yeah. My stomach's just a stone pit. Like, oh God, just vote. Just vote. Caitlin, where can people follow you on? At RobotCaitlin on Twitter. At CaitlinIsTall on Instagram.

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She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before, tried to assassinate the President of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson.

26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeart True Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. What happens when a professional football player's career ends and the applause fades and the screaming fans move on?

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