The Daily Zeitgeist - Rudy Giuliani Self Owns, #MeToo: The Talk Show 5.3.18

Episode Date: May 4, 2018

In episode 140, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Ramin Nazer to discuss new sexual harassment allegations against Charlie Rose and his possible new #metoo show, Rudy Giuliani spilling the beans about Trump paying Michael Cohen back for Stormy Daniels hush money, how Michael Cohen owes a ton of tax-money over taxi scams, the Koch brothers getting up to their usual shady shenanigans, the Karate Kid revival coming to YouTube, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 29, Episode 4 of Daddy Daddy's Night Geist. Yeah. For May 3rd, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, and Ik.a. Potatoes O'Brien. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.

I know you see me on the Instagram. I know you heard me on the podcast. But you still don't gray me no attention. Got the Zeit gang all up in my mentions. He's a Miles, he's a host, he's a freak. Got a different guest every day of the week. It's cool not trying to put a rush on you. Oh, my goodness. Thank you so much. I think that was Kellen T.

Who's given me some pretty fire AKAs in the past. I'm pretty sure that's you, brother. So thank you because you know I like to rap. Yes, it is a Kellen T. At Mr. T. Kellen T. For that T Kellen T for that AKA I knew that was coming so I just erased my AKA immediately

I was like I'm just going potatoes O'Brien because I cannot compete with this shit it's like when you came to the weigh in for the fight and I took my robe off you saw I've been juicing the whole time and I suddenly developed a limp I was like ah shit my ankle and we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian and artist and animator, Ramin Nazer. Ramin Potatoes Nazer.

As he's known. What's up, man? What's up, Ramin Ju? Oh, you know, just hanging out, seeing this, being a good guest, and not screwing up the first sentence of being a guest on here. Oh, you're crushing it, my man. Yeah, I'm one of the best guests already. Oh, 100%. I'm in my head

about this, though. Jack, earlier, you extended your hand before we started taping and said, Jack, and then shook my hand. I'm like, oh, I need to remind Jack that we met two years ago or one year ago on the Cracked podcast. Oh, shit. Just so he doesn't think, like, I don't know, don, I need to remind Jack that we met two years ago or one year ago on the Cracked podcast. Oh, shit. Just so he doesn't think like, I don't know.

Don't you have to be more polite when you just meet someone? Like, oh, nice to meet you. And then my reaction is like, yeah, yeah, I know. Yeah. No, you should have been like, you don't fucking remember me, bro? Yeah. Get the fuck out of here. I'm going home.

My bad, man. Yeah, Jack. Do you remember all your guests? I usually do. Remember all your co-hosts? You can't. There's too many. How do you remember more than guests? I usually do. You can't. There's too many. How do you remember more than 1,000 people or something?

Isn't that Dunbar's number, right? You can only remember 200 people. Yeah, I think it's an overall. Yeah. Below 200. After that, you start merging them together. Do you ever merge acquaintances together? That's that one person.

Then, oh, wait, that's actually two people that I'm just merging into one. Or is that a creepy thing? I've definitely, definitely done that. Oh, good. I've done that with my mom's cousins. I do that with famous people a lot, I think. When I'm like, oh shit, those are two separate people. That's why it's good to not be super famous,

because if you are, if someone else does some horrible shit, you get grouped in with that. Like, isn't that the guy that did that rape thing? And then it's like, no, no, no, his was way, way less. Oh, I was associating with that giant one. No, yeah. What do we talk about on the Crack Podcast? Death, after you die.

Oh, you were on the live show. That's right. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You were fucking awesome. Thank you. Yeah, that was a crazy episode. We talked about the afterlife.

Oh, good. So it was good, and I have instant credibility on this. Yeah, boom. So now I can just lean back and not worry about my answer. You can check out now, man. Hey, Ramin, tell me about the afterlife, fam. We'll see.

Yeah, so now we are going to put you on the spot. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a person? Well, maybe it doesn't make me interesting.

It doesn't make me an idiot, but I searched for Bobby Kennedy and Kennedy Curse. Everyone knows Kennedy Conspiracy Beat, but Kennedy Curse is that all the Kennedy seemed to be getting a real bad hand recently. And I saw that Bobby Kennedy trailer on Netflix.

And then I was like, wait, there's a Bobby Kennedy and he was assassinated too. And I didn't really know that. Cause I grew up half my life in Canada and half the other half in small town, Texas. So there's just these gaps of knowledge and stuff that are going on. Like, oh, there's another dude.

Not enough about both countries. Yeah, I appear like a giant moron very often. Hey, you know what? Watch Forrest Gump, man. That'll get you up to speed. Okay. Because I remember that was like the way, that was my introduction. They killed his brother.

And then his brother was killed. Oh, shit. Okay, cool. I like that Texas has just erased the Kennedys. It's like Stalin-era Soviet Russia. Just like, yeah, no, the Kennedys never existed, man. I don't know what you're talking about. We learned a lot about Texas history, and you get to learn those specific figures,

and then that applies nowhere else. People are always confused that you know about. And then we took out commie spy John F. Kennedy, and soon after took out his brother. And Sam Houston was our god. Right. What is something you think is overrated? I believe, and it's not a bad television program. I love the television program and I watch every single episode of it.

But I believe that Black Mirror is overrated when people, I'm being so protective of this because I don't want to come off as a Black Mirror hater, like, oh, the title of this episode is like, oh, yeah, Potatoes hates Black Mirror. But people get very critical of episodes of Black Mirror, like, oh, that one was dumb, but there's only three episodes in a season, so it's 33% bad. So it's a good show, but when it's like, that was good. But it wasn't a Black Mirror episode. Like it has this very gravitas to it.

Like it's supposed to be the more I'd expect it. But it's just the kind of cool TV show that we like. Who knows if it'll hold up. But I like it right now. But if there's a bad episode, I don't care. Right. Yeah. Do you have a lot of people who are just going like, oh my God, it's so mind-blowing.

Is that sort of contributing to your feeling of it being overrated? Just the expectations. Not that they're saying it's mind-blowing. It's like they're expecting it to always be mind-blowing. Right, right. In truth, a lot of people probably only like two episodes of it and then are saying the rest aren't good. Right, right, right. That's my stretch, though. I don't normally rant about television shows, but I thought that'd be a good one on the way over here.

Yeah. No, that is. What's your favorite Black Mirror episode? I'm a softie. I like San Juniperno. I like the happy ending. That does say a lot about you. Yeah.

You've got a warm heart. Yeah. And it's almost sort of about the afterlife, so there you go. Yeah, very much so. We've got a theme going. And this isn't fair at all, but one of the more recent episodes of black mirror,

I think it was black museum. Uh, they used the myth, uh, that we only use 12% of our brain. And I was like, all right, fuck you.

You're not as smart as I thought you were. I like how you just go instant turnoff. Isn't the fake number even 10? It's something like that. Like they, they referenced that. I haven't committed it to memory because it's dumb and it's not true. What's the fake number even 10? It's something like that. That was like two or some dumb shit. They referenced that. I haven't committed it to memory because it's dumb and it's not true. What's the movie where

Homegirl uses all her brain? Lucy? Lucy. What is true? How much do we use? So it's true that we only use a small portion of our brain at a time because each all the different portions of our brain are specialized. So if we were actually using our whole brain at the. So if we were actually using our

whole brain at the same time, we would be like, you know, urinating on ourselves and having a seizure because that's not how the brain works. Yeah. It's like, it's like complaining that you only use 10% of your keyboard at any given time. It's like, yeah, because if you were using all of the keyboard at the same time, it would just be a fucking mess. It's a timeshare. So we thought that, oh, these people only come once a year year but we weren't keeping track of all the people that come into that time share exactly that's right what is something you think is underrated underrated bing bing the search engine bing the search engine gets so much shit it's uh so check this out. Bing is a punchline, and no one would ever use it. But if you are looking for, let's say, a rare live performance on a Japanese site or a music performance on a French,

basically international stuff that isn't filtered out by Google's heavy search thing, and I'm not even talking about porn. I am talking about porn, but I'm not even talking about porn. I am talking about porn, but I'm not just talking about porn. I know, you keep winking. Yeah. You got something in your eye. Yeah, so basically-

Doing hand gestures. Bing is, I believe Bing is a more thorough video search engine. It's not the best like actual result search engine, like as the list of stuff in text. But for video, I think Bing is highly underrated. And the proof is in the pudding. I don't think it'll be like that forever.

Who knows? This stuff fluctuates all the time. But if you just think of artists you like and you want to find something rare, go to Bing, search for that. And then go to Google, also search for that. And then just compare and you'll see that Bing is actually good. Oh, shit. No, you might be right. It was funny.

I was with Super Producer Nick Stumpf last week, and we were talking about Billy Preston. Was he the fifth Beatle? Is that what they call him? Yeah. Anyway, and we were talking about this one performance they did for the concert for Bangladesh that I could not find on YouTube anymore. And I was like, looking for it. And I just binged that shit right now.

Really? Yeah. You could probably download it, too. But it was on Dailymotion, so maybe I'm just too lazy. I think maybe that's what it is. Well, that makes sense. Google owns YouTube, so they're only giving you YouTube results. Well, if you go to videos, they have the other ones too, but yeah, it will.

But they heavily favor the, yeah, whereas Bing, look at that. That's pretty. Just Binged it. Wait, why do I already have an account on here? Oh, shit. Okay, they got me. I'm in the matrix. Never mind.

Yeah, we often just pick one thing and that's the best and then we won't try the other. But same with browsers. It fluctuates which is better, Firefox or Chrome. Chrome busts ahead and then it gets kind of bogged down with stuff and Firefox is on top. And there were even a couple months last year where Safari was actually good. Oh, yeah. Remember that? Opera was super fast in 2012.

Opera was the way to do it, but now Opera is behind. But somebody should have a Rotten Tomatoes of browsers where you can just keep track of which one you should be using at any given time. Yeah, I need to know. That's true. I just use whatever one I've been using. God, we're just sheeple, man. Did you ever use browsers as a burner browser?

Growing up, if you wanted to look at pornography or something like that, Sheeple, man. Did you ever use browsers as like a burner browser as like growing up? If you wanted to look at pornography or something like that, you would use that browser. So you wouldn't. A deleted history is very suspicious. But if you have a whole new browser that you could delete, it's like there was nothing to even. You burned the building down. That was my little trick. I was lucky enough to have an old ass computer in my room that I could look at the Internet with.

And back then, in my day, there was only enough to have an old ass computer in my room that i could look at the internet with and back then in my day there was only sublime directory uh for porn and it was a whack ass website that was just like weird just yeah sublime director yeah yo shout out to anybody who remembers sublime directory that was like an old school just a list of stuff there's this whole history of of the internet and different sections and how we used it whether it's porn or looking for video news or anything that's just maybe it is covered a lot but I don't think we look at the internet is how big of a thing it is or actually we do there's infinite amount of content of everything everywhere but I haven't recently reflected of that I'm thinking of decades all the time I'm thinking of yeah there's the 2000s and then there's the 90s and the 80s and 70s.

But a whole bunch of shit took like has happened in within cyberspace while the outside looks the same. Like my friend who's a substitute teacher was saying that he looks at those pictures of the graduating class of 2017 and the one from 99 and it's the same clothes. Like the clothes varies a lot in the 80s, 70s, 60s, but fashion stopped evolving towards the millennium. And then after the millennium, the thing that started evolving was the cell phone. The device is what changes in people's hands. We just stopped giving a shit.

Yeah, because now it's funny, like when you go to places like, you know, like our Urban Outfitters or whatever, and people want to buy clothes that look like old bullshit clothes that like were hand-me-downs to us in the 90s we're like i want an oversized fila t-shirt you're overpaying for that and also take that fubu off young woman right i haven't been in a hot topic in so long i just picture all kids today having face tattoos and uh the unicorn frappuccino dreads. That's true.

We saw the one dude at lunch the other day who was like, are you trying to look like Lil Pump? That's not a look. Off-brand Lil Pump is not something you want to look like. I think if one out of every hundred kids in this generation have that look, that's how I'm going to picture them from now on, the Lil Pump dreads. And finally, what is a myth? What is something most people think is true

that you know to be false, Ramin? I think, excuse me for getting esoteric here, but the particle is a myth. We think of particles. Holy shit. Like, oh yeah, then the atom is like a little billiard ball of thing and then it has an electron going around it.

It's like, no, that's not it. It's a higher energy concentration than the outside of the cloud. And you go further into that. It's like you think you eventually find a stubborn piece of matter called a particle. But as far as we keep going down, there's no such thing. So you can't find anything. There's no such thing as things. Right.

Holy shit. It's just all like an energy field kind of. Yeah. Yeah. Which we know that in einstein field equations and stuff we know that matter is energy condensed to a slow vibration and all that but to actually know that but to actually conceptualize that there's no particle like bro you're preaching the choir right now of course bro we. Wait, what's your background? Were you a science major or something? I was brought up with engineer parents and a scientist brother, but on the outskirts. I did well in it in school, but I never wanted to pursue academia. I hated school and sitting down or even talking to people that, well, I do comedy, so I guess

that's the same thing. It's a different thing. You get to be more crass, though sure when you do that but um everybody should check out just slides me a note she goes his background is iranian oh that's actually really good yeah of course it's that go to romeannazer.com and uh check out some of his shit because yeah there's really interesting trippy shit that you do in the art world as well as in your comedy. Oh, yeah. We were watching – what were you showing me yesterday?

Giuliano's pizza thing? Just getting more and more aggressive. Cartoons are great. I actually – I'm not actually a scientist though. So you could have an actual scientist perhaps come in here and be like, well, actually, we did find the particle in 2016. It just didn't make sense. I think our audience knows because we don't have scientists on as guests. You're as close as we will ever come to having a scientist in that you're related to some.

It's funny that we're talking about atoms because yesterday we were talking about negaton or something when Binion was on. Negaton? Yeah. Well, it was like another thing and we were talking about electrons. Anyway, the science family came through on Twitter i was like okay oh we got that right it was a headline that seemed like it might be referencing something or something but it was clearly a reference no well i don't know we didn't know what the fuck it was and then it was a

reference to a dead bull thing but anyway let's get are your twitter people generally nice or are they mixed oh the zai ganggang is lovely. They're family. Hey, guys. Yeah. I hope they appreciate that. Hey, he said hey, guys, to no one in particular. And they will take that to work with them. They'll be like, hey, I don't know if you know this.

This dude on the podcast said hi to me. So I'm not coming in. Hey, Brian. How's it going? Yeah. Brian's the best. Lisa, you're the best. Lisa's great. There's Tiffany, Lisa, Chapman, Christy Yamaguchi-Main.

Oh, yeah. They're all out here. All right. We're trying to take a sample of the global shared consciousness. What people are thinking and talking about right now, today, at the moment we record, and we have a new update from the world of Mengazi. Mengazi. It's been a while.

It's been a while. Things have not stopped being fucked up in the world of entertainment. And so there was this rumor going around that Charlie Rose was going to make a comeback with a show where he interviewed other people who had been called out by the Me Too movement. We said it was finally the official realization of the show title.

We came up with toxic masculinity as like a, they heard that show title and embodied it with this idea. But now it looks like that might not be happening because Charlie Rose is worse than anybody thought. Right. Yeah. There's apparently so now there are 27 new allegations against him, 14 by CBS employees and 13 by other colleagues spanning 40 years.

Yeah. And in the beginning, like the details are pretty, you know, he was pulling out his penis and touching and groping women and stuff like that. again i think it was one of those things we have to realize that a lot of these dudes from this generation this is the the gross shit this is the sort of shitty culture that they're coming from uh and yeah so i don't know if that's going to affect this show because clearly why would you already give somebody a show if you know they're like this sexual harassment the premise of the show already seemed crazy to me right that it's like yo get you know get louis ck on and matt lauer and y'all can just talk about like how fucked up the country is right this witch hunt but i don't know what they were

saying because it was first it was like a page six item this tv show and they were like at a q a like there was a producer that like said oh yeah, yeah, I was asked to produce this series, but ultimately turned it down. From the people who brought you Juiced, the OJ prank show where he went around scaring people because he's a literal murderer. Yeah. Comes toxic masculinity. Yeah. I assumed there was some manner of, man, we really fucked up. And here is us now reflecting in retrospect and like trying

to make good in some way. But yeah, I guess if it is just them being like, man, what's happened to this country? You can't grab a girl's boobs when she's working for you. I thought this was America. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, this also speaks to the duration, the fact that it started in the 70s. It speaks to just how long and how sort of systematized the shit was. They say that people at the network managers at CBS knew about his behavior as early as 1986. So, I mean, this is just... Can you go back to that part you said it started in the 70s? What part started in the 70s?

Like these allegations. Oh for him. I thought it was like speaking to a bigger thing. No sexual harassment began in the 70s. Prior to that we were living in a utopian society where people minded their own business and didn't violate each other. As far as I'm aware sex didn't exist before the 70s. Is that correct? It came out with color television.

My grandparents were born in 1976 and that's the beginning of my family. I do not like to picture sex existing before 1976. Charlie Rose has been around that long. Yeah, so the new allegations that involve him taking out his penis and touching a coworker's boobs. Scientific term. Yeah, the scientific term boobs date to 1976 long time running sorry to be crude

but when you hear uh took out his penis when when you visualize it which you can't help when you're listening to things i visualize all of it doesn't it sound like it's soft like it sounds soft when it's penis but like and maybe that's why C.K. used dick in his apology. Right, because penis seems flaccid. Or showing, you know, exposing myself inappropriately. Like, yeah, we're listing details of it now, and it paints a

weird, interesting picture in your head. Strange times. We all know that. Yeah, but I mean, the crazy thing other than... The crazy thing? The crazy thing other than that... The crazy thing about this. Is just to think that, I mean, the crazy thing other than the crazy thing, the crazy thing other than that is about the crazy thing is just to think that. I mean, so he became probably one of the two or three most successful people at CBS News over the course of from 1976 to when this all came out last year or earlier this year. this all came out last year or earlier this year. So, you know, he was sexually harassing and assaulting people.

And, you know, there are 60 allegations. And that whole time he was just like, you know, sexually assaulting his way up the corporate ladder to becoming like one of the most powerful and popular people. It's just fucking. Yeah, I guess what's crazy when you talk about how people already knew at cbs like i think the second wave we need to also start calling these people out who are just being like let me just shield these people from it too because we also have to address that part of the culture too like obviously to be violating somebody is one thing but then to begin to protect those people from any kind of justice or whatever or consequence i think that's the other thing that we also need. Like, you're not being the homie by being like, okay, it's cool.

I mean, like, I'll figure it out. No, you're complicit. Yeah. It's a weird balance of empathy and calling out, though, because we don't want to just be a call-out culture and point, point, point, point. But we also can't just forgive everything instantly. We have to be like, okay, how do we learn from this? Yeah.

I think Sarah Silverman does it really well well I don't know if you watch the Sarah Silverman what's it called I love you yeah yeah I love it's like one of my favorite shows I don't even know what it's called but yeah I think she's really good at that balance of yeah yeah she's great I have nothing to do with that show I don't know I'm plugging that show under underrated that's why cuz it's underrated going back to the T because it's underrated. That's what we're here for. Going back 15 minutes. Dude, the Tig Notaro bit where she does the slow auction. The slow auction. It's so fucking funny.

Yeah, but that's a great show. It's on Hulu. We've had one of the writers from that show. We did. On the Daily Zeitgeist. And yeah, it's great. Great show. Check it out.

We don't recommend stuff just because we're involved with it. Sometimes stuff is just good. Yeah, sometimes the stuff we're not involved in is good. I know, believe it or not. Believe it or not. Very difficult to believe. I'm walking on air. All right, we're going to take a quick break.

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Sean Hannity. That's the one. I like that, though, on the fucking what's it called show. And then again this morning on Fox and Friends. Now, I have to admit, I have only been watching excerpts of the Sean Hannity appearance. I am, like, saving this. It's this and the new John Mulaney stand-up special I'm saving them for the weekend so I can just like sit back pop popcorn and just like watch it like turn the lights down it's good let me spoil some of those jokes for you yeah please do the moments the highs of this

Rudy Giuliani appearance are so high uh that we we have to talk about it immediately. This is just symptomatic of how fucking backwards Trump world is that you have your lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, going Hannity and then completely self-owned on the air like he did last night and then this morning. Yeah, just specialize it as our writer Sam Rudman wrote or a show that specializes in having people step on their own dick, was very good at that last night. So Giuliani came on and basically contradicted

Trump's version of the Stormy Daniel payoff. Yeah, and even Michael Cohen's version. Yeah, and Michael Cohen's. He said to keep her quiet about having the too gross to imagine sex that she talked about on 60 Minutes. They paid her. Michael Cohen paid her. And then so we knew that. But what he said that contradicted what people have been saying is that the president paid him back for that. And knew about it. And knew about it. So had Cohen not been repaid, the violation would have been just his own campaign finance violation. But because the president paid him back, now it is his violation as well.

Yeah. The moment on Hannity when he sort of spills the beans is kind of amazing because up until this point, Sean Hannity has said whatever he needs to to protect the president. And then to have Giuliani come on and be like, let me tell you something you don't know and completely blow his mind. I think we have a clip of just the moment where Sean Hannity realizes that he's been. I'm sure Sean Hannity knew it was bullshit what he was saying, but he has this moment where he realizes, have I been lied to by the president or what have I been doing? So listen to this. That money was not campaign money.

Sorry, I'm giving you a fact now that you don't know. It's not campaign money. No campaign finance violation. So they funneled it through the law firm. Funneled through the law firm and the president repaid it. Oh, I didn't know he did yeah there's no campaign finance law zero oh so i i didn't know that he did both their voices sound so much alike who's speaking where giuliani's first and he's like i'm gonna say something you don't know that

he paid it back and then hannity goes but it was like funneled through a lot like he was trying to figure make sense of it without it making look like Trump knew what was going on. And then he's like, yeah. And then he paid him back. And that's when he's like, Oh, I,

you just kind of fuck. You blew up the whole case with that line. It's like when Rick, you remember when Rick Perry had to name the three departments or name three of the 12 departments that he wanted to abolish. Yeah. And he couldn't, he couldn't name one.

And then the third one. Yeah. And then he just goes, whoops. Yeah. the 12 departments that he wanted to uh abolish yeah and he couldn't he couldn't name one and then the third one yeah and then he just goes whoops yeah like i don't care i don't care i got it wrong i can't come up with a third one but you know whoops uh that's not good man it's it's just it's bad because okay he completely contradicts what donald trump said he said on air force one like a couple months ago I have no idea what's going on. You have to ask Michael Cohen. And then even Trump himself began tweeting now. And this whole thing, they're having so much trouble just doing the basic lying that it's sort of mind-blowing how there are actually three versions now.

There's Trump's versions of events. There's Michael Cohen's versions of events and Rudy Giuliani's. And Michael Cohen said he was never reimbursed. He was like, yo, I had to take out a home equity loan, and I was never paid back. Now Giuliani's saying he was paid back, but Trump was saying before this, I don't know shit. So it's a very, very, very sticky situation. And so to add to that, he went on Fox and Friends this morning, Rudy Giuliani, and then dug the fucking hole even deeper. So the whole thing is like with this payment, right? The campaign finance law violation is that this $130,000 payment can be seen as a contribution to the campaign because that money to silence Stormy Daniels was to benefit the campaign and

the outcome of the election. But the way they've been trying to explain it away is like, oh, this wasn't Donald Trump's money. Michael Cohen did it on his own. He didn't know anything about it. It had nothing to do with the campaign. So now with him saying that Donald Trump knew and paid him back, they're in a sticky situation because that is now can be seen as a contribution to the campaign because it was purely for the sake of the optics of that story about his affair getting out so close to the election. So they had some ambiguity to be like, well, it had nothing to do with the election. Right, he just didn't want his wife to know. Yeah, he just didn't want his wife to know, which, okay, fine.

But then he goes on this morning and basically just says, well, imagine this. This story comes out right before the second debate with Hillary Clinton. I mean, Michael Cohen had to get it done, so he did what he had to do. Trigger warning. Would it have been that damaging, though? Didn't people already know Trump was outrageous? Of course. Of course. There's no, like, this whole thing, that's why

it's also kind of like a, not a non-story, but this isn't going to be the thing that totally fucks Trump. At least least i don't think so because based on all the you know all the previous things that are going on yeah uh yes he's a pig we knew that i don't think anyone for a second doubted what happened but it's just this now it puts him at risk to basically have committed there are like four felony charges now that they are that they could possibly face because of what Rudy Giuliani is.

First is that the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels was like an in-kind coordinated contribution that's above the limits of what can be contributed. Second is that Cohen was a straw donor that they used to cover up the actual source of the contribution. Third, they made false statements on financial disclosures. And fourth, false statements on financial disclosures and fourth false statements on banking forms so that's like four like legit felonies that yeah you know obviously we'll see where that goes but his all this new information from Rudy Giuliani makes like no one's story holds up anymore now right I mean that's basically what you're saying

is what they were saying that like you know this is guy who, it wouldn't have affected his campaign. He would go to the Playboy Mansion a lot and was on the Jeffrey Epstein plane. He used to leak stories to the media about how he was cheating on his ex-wife because he thought it made him look cool. But the point is that this sort of proves intent. There's an actual quote from Rudy Giuliani this morning on Fox and Friends and Trigger Warning.

This is a grown man stepping on his own dick. He says, however, imagine if that came out on October 15th, 2016, in the middle of the last debate with Hillary Clinton. Cohen didn't even ask. Cohen made it go away. He did his job so that's putting this revelation in the context of the fucking election and saying you know it would have been bad if it came out during the debate and so cohen made it go away so yeah so bad at being bad yeah it's really weird just i'm like into the point where now i'm mad at them for being so dumb. They don't even know how to lie good.

Right. You know, lie well. Maybe that's part of it. It's like showing off that this might be a weird analogy to use, but it's like from a like if the when you're playing a soccer match and the goalie is scoring on you. It's like if they can just be that open with the right, the dumbness, it's the flaunting, the flexing, if you will. That somehow that the goalkeeper off a goal kick goes straight into the goal. I don't know.

We're not really defending. Yeah, it's just such a wild, wild organization over there in the White House. And then also, Julian, he's not even just fucking up the information about this Stormy Daniels thing. He's also getting the State Department into some shit, too, because he also went on and was being like, oh, you know, North Korea is going to release

some U.S. prisoners before the administration has even formally announced anything and it's like you don't work at the state department so why are you divulging this information because again the white house just must be like this some dude's garage where everybody hangs out and they hear shit and they're like oh what's what's working oh north koreans okay i'm gonna go talk to my homie over here at fox news it's just they don't know how to keep anything contained and it's just i don't know how to keep anything contained, and it's just, I don't know. It is what it is. This is clearly just a regularly scheduled program for this administration.

Yeah, they keep the show going. Yeah, they keep things interesting. So, I mean, this isn't just completely without strategy or an accident. Apparently, Giuliani thinks that he can go on there and say that because Trump paid the money, because it actually eventually came from Trump, and because Trump is allowed to spend as much of his own money on his own campaign as he wants, this isn't a problem. But because it was originally paid by Cohen, and it was hidden, and then it was basically a loan from Cohen that he had to pay back later that doesn't prevent it from being a campaign finance violation. Right. I mean, like the crime is that they didn't report it. I mean, he could have easily just done the payment and then said, OK, this is one hundred thirty thousand I paid to Michael Cohen. And then it could have came out that way.

But the funny thing is, too, like if he just didn't pay him back michael cole would have been the fall guy and he could have been like this guy acted completely like he's he went rogue and just did his own thing right but because of this payment back he brought himself back in that's just it is a bad strategy their strategy is bad is this the main thing against him right now i mean i mean against but is this the this is one of many things. One of the main... Well, I mean, he also has this libel suit with Stormy Daniels going on, too. So Stormy Daniels is suing him for libel because he keeps saying that they didn't have an affair. She's saying they did. And every time he says she's lying, which I don't think anyone really thinks she's lying about them having an affair. But because Trump this morning in his tweet in response to Giuliani's appearance tweeted,

the agreement was used to stop the false and extortionist accusations made by her, Stormy Daniels, about an affair. That basically gives them – like they were having to rely on a much older statement where he denied that they had an affair. It was like, oh, like an old sketch, this is BS kind of thing. Like they were having to rely on a much older statement where he denied that they had an affair. It was like, oh, they like an old sketch. This is BS kind of thing. And they're like, OK, they're denying it there. Right. This now has her name and attaching this extortionist false accusation. Now they have a case.

Right. Now he is openly calling her a liar in public. And so she has a case against him. openly calling her a liar in public. And so she has a case against him. Another weird detail of the Giuliani appearance was when asked, what do you do if Mueller investigated Ivanka? We were talking yesterday about how Ivanka Trump, the president's favorite daughter, favorite child, favorite person in the world, crush. She is very complicit in a lot of the financial crimes that the Trump organization has committed. And we were saying it's probably only a matter of time before Mueller starts investigating her. We know Hannity listens to our podcast, and he

was like, what would you do, Rudy Giuliani, what would you do Rudy Giuliani what would you do if Muller started investigating Ivanka and Giuliani like lost his shit right he was like I I would go at him I would get on my charger so I guess that's like dodge yeah dodge or horse maybe yeah and go right into, run into their offices with a lance if they go after her, which is, I think, a physical threat. If he actually did that, he should be allowed to because that's just amazing. But only if he actually nails it and is on the horse with the thing. Did he just go to Medieval Times or something? Right, exactly.

Why the fuck? Why is that the thing? To get on a horse with the thing. Did he just go to medieval times or something? Right, exactly. Like, why the fuck, why is that the thing? Try to get on a horse. Like, it's not like, oh man, I would go in there and I would throw him out of the office. Like, I would get upon my steed. Right. Have my vassal prepare my lance and do battle.

Like, what the fuck is this? You think he's just trying to be creative in the moment and just didn't nail the right thing? I think so. I mean, this guy, he's a fucking... He's trying to be chivalrous, I think. Yeah, he said that the country would revolt. There would be rioting.

Like, turn on Mueller, right? Yeah, there would be rioting if he deigned to even turn his sights toward Princess Ivanka. I think he's talking about Beyonce. Nobody's going to fucking get going. No one's taking to the streets when Ivanka gets hauled off. And if they are, come the fuck on. streets when Ivanka gets hauled off. And if they are, come the fuck on.

But there are just so many, you know, third rate mobster vibes just coming off of the White House. It's just there. There was also a story that recently broke about how a guy who is officially a White House aide, but was just Trump's longtime personal bodyguard. So he turned his bodyguard into his White House aide. Trump's longtime personal bodyguard. So he turned his bodyguard into his White House aide. But they went in and raided his doctor's office and basically stole his files because the doctor-

Oh, Trump's personal doctor. Yeah, Trump's personal doctor because he spoke about the fact that Trump was on Propecia and that made Trump mad because he wanted people to think that his head of hair was natural. Was not just a curse. Right. Some God put down on him. Right.

From on high, you shall have this fucking spider head. Yeah. Looks like a bunch of spider webs. And they also said that the doctor had to take a framed picture he had of him and Trump down off of the wall. Oh, they said, and you better take this photo down too? Yeah. Oh, man. Like they do when you go to like a dry cleaner in LA and you better take this photo down yeah yeah oh man like they do when you

go to like a dry cleaner in la and you see all the headshots you're like this one it's coming down not even headshot material uh that guy though that doctor though he is amazing looking if you haven't seen this trump's personal doctor he looks like a character from a coen brothers film or i haven't seen it oh he's like's like... He's got like shoulder length, like real stringy, like thinning hair. And somebody tweeted... Looks like Marc Maron from Far Away. Doesn't it?

Someone tweeted that he looks like Steven Spielberg had his midlife crisis late. Yeah. And I mean, look, and you know, granted this guy, Borenstein, he was really hurt in that interview. He's like, yeah, I felt, you know, I was his doctor and blah, I don't get it you know, granted, this guy, Borenstein, he was really hurt in that interview. He's like, I felt I was his doctor. I don't get it.

He trusted him because this guy we first found out about this guy because he was the source of the letter that called Trump the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency. And shockingly, he is now admitting that that letter was dictated to him by Donald Trump. No, it was like the most clearly, it was like a lot of the headlines in the American Media Inc. articles where it's like, wait, that is definitely written in Donald Trump's voice. Say what you will about Donald Trump,

he has one of the clearest and most identifiable narrative voices that you could possibly have. He speaks in superlatives constantly. You know, in advertising, there's this word called puffery, I think, and it's so that companies can't be sued for saying we're number one or we're the best anything. So a lot of companies say we're the best,

and you can't sue them for lying on the packaging. Is there a definition for healthy where it's like I'm the best, I'm the healthiest? Okay, define healthy. It's like how about your organs best, I'm the healthiest. Like, okay, define healthy. It's like, how about your organs functioning? Oh, no, no, no, not that. It's about how many cheeseburgers I can eat in 20 minutes. Super producer Anna Hosnia just showed us a headline that says that the White House is denying that they ever raided his doctor's office.

So, you know. Oh, so then they didn't. Yeah. Okay, moving on. And everyone knows trump's hair is natural and oh hell it's the most natural looking hair of all no yeah he actually why would he need to rate it what you don't know is actually he grows it out he cuts it off and they sell that as weave right it's actually more valuable than remy extensions right he is supplying the wig

industry that's a joke for all my weave people. But my new show, Unbelievable. On Fox. Right after, was that TVS show about claws? About the fucking manicure place? Right after claws, unbelievable. But yeah, I mean, that would seem to be a very serious thing for a doctor to admit to that he, you know, issued a fraudulent letter about a presidential candidate during an election like that's uh but bornstein's reaction to someone pointing that out was oh no that was my black humor like the movie fargo he said like the movie fargo because so fargo opens with the disclaimer like this movie is based on real events. The names have been changed to respect the survivors or something.

But everything else has been kept exactly the same to respect the dead. And it's totally made up. They just thought of that phrase and was like, that'd be some cool shit to put at the beginning of a movie. Right. Even though it has no basis in fact. So I guess that's what he was referring to, that like them claiming that Fargo was based on fact, that's how he thought of the letter he was writing

that was used as evidence in a presidential election. Again, he looks like he came out of a Coen Brothers movie, so that's probably why he was like, he just has like a, I think he's just obsessed with the work of the Coen Brothers or something. Yeah. It's my black humor to deceive the American people about a person in fucking awful condition. I'd imagine.

Otherwise, we need to put Donald Trump in a lab and figure out how to fucking get the antidote to live forever. And going back to the subject of Michael Cohen, there's a story that broke fairly recently that he owes all these back taxes because he was long on taxicab medallions, which are these things that the New York Times podcast, the Daily Nothing, not even Daily Zeitgeist. Is it called Daily Nothing or The Daily? It's basically called The Daily Nothing. Not even Daily Zeitgeist. Is it called Daily Nothing or The Daily? It's basically called The Daily Nothing. It's called Michael Barbaro's Mmm Fest. Michael Barbaro's quiet orgasms.

I don't know the reference, but I like it. Don't worry about it. That's for us to have our secret rivalry with a much bigger podcast. No, they know about it. Yeah, they know about it. You guys are big, right? They're scared of us. No, I was lying to you when I said we were big oh really i just want to get you on the show

you're bringing to me you have a building yeah well we might get kicked out we're actually squatting the real company will probably show up in about an hour and we gotta act like we're janitors um but in addition to all of the paying off of stormy daniels and all the other illegal shit that michael cohen was doing for trump the search warrant to raid Michael Cohen's everything, like everywhere Michael Cohen is, was based on the fact that he had not been paying taxes on all these taxi medallions. And he's like tied really closely with this guy who's known as the, his name is Evgeny Gene Friedman, known in New York as the Taxi King. Gene Friedman, known in New York as the Taxi King, he operated more than 800 cabs and was basically skimming $5 million off of surcharges that were supposed to go to the government.

According to a report in Page Six, Cohen once put Friedman up, the Taxi King, he put him up in Ivanka and Jared's apartment after Friedman attacked his wife before they got divorced. And Friedman is also in trouble because he once had this conversation with a former business partner. He said, don't fuck with me. You know how I am. You know how I roll. I will kill you, your wife and your kids. And maybe I will let you survive, actually.

That's tight. Wait, didn't he say kill you, your wife, and your kids, and then let you survive? Didn't he already kill you? He's like, oh, actually, you know what would be cool if I let you survive and killed your wife and your kids. Because if he kills you first and then your wife and kids, you die before seeing your wife and kids die.

Right. Come on, man. That's the worst order to do it if you're really... What kind of mobster are you? Again, yeah, it's just these weird... do it if you're a mobster. Yeah. Again, yeah. It's just these weird, it's just such a dark, weird, shady world where like, you know, Michael Cohen's got his hands in all these different places. And then we find out like his uncle owned like the spot, the Russian mob, like to kick

it out in Brooklyn. Like it's very clear, like they come from a certain world and they're not even the good versions of it. Right. And not that there's a good version of organized crime, but like they're from a certain world and they're not even the good versions of it. Right. And not that there's a good version of organized crime, but like they're clearly a respectable or their abilities of deception are just so they're like, it's sleek. They're disorganized crime.

It seems like they just like, can't like keep their shit straight. Oh, there you go. There he is. We're going to go to a break on that. I'm going to be carried out of the studio on people's shoulders. We'll be right back.

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They saw like students as the foot soldiers of the free market. So they've been setting stuff up like institutes within colleges or like and giving huge donations and having these like really bizarre agreements that give them actual power to hire and fire people. So recently there was new documents that came out that there was a relationship between the Koch brothers and George Mason University where the Koch Brothers Foundation created a fund to pay the salary of some professors at a free market think tank that they created at the school. And then they would also be able to create like a selection committee where they got to put two of their own people on that board. And they could also appoint members to advisory boards that had firing power. So basically, you know, like if the Koch Brothers were fucking with it, they could just kind of press a button and make a professor go away in certain schools.

And there was even like in 2016 this thing came out there was five million dollars was earmarked for coke backed quote economic freedom centers uh at arizona public universities uh and so you know people have noticed that the coke brothers have their hands in academia too uh because i know there was a little bit of controversy when George Mason, they were trying to rename their law school, the Antonin Scalia Law School, after the Charles Koch Foundation gave him $30 million. And people were like, well, what the fuck is going on? There's actually, I think, an advocacy group called Un-Koch the Campuses or something. And they're the ones who are doing a lot of this work. But suffice it to say, they are trying to infiltrate just American society at

every level, including obviously the midterm elections too, because they rely so much on many of these conservative Congress people to basically protect the corporate class. They are spending close to $400 million to fight the blue wave in the midterms because they are so fucking shook at the possibility of the Democrats taking control of Congress. They're like, okay, do we have to drop a half billion dollars to keep our shit going? And the answer is yes. And even within that 400 million, 20 million is set aside specifically just for TV ads to convince Americans that the tax cuts or scam, as I like to call it, were effective because that's like

the battle cry that I think a lot of the Republican candidates are going to go into midterms with. They're like, hey, man, what about all that money you saved on your taxes that you don't really see? Only if you're like super wealthy, have you actually seen that? I don't know if that's really the best plan, but I guess if you brute force it and spend $20 million trying to inundate viewers with like, oh yeah, the tax cuts were really great. Maybe they have a shot. But when you have people like Marco Rubio in public saying, I don't think any of this money is coming back to the people, they're really just not on the same page at every level. The Koch brothers are basically extremists.

The National Review, which is a very conservative outlet, called them anarcho-capitalists. They believe that the government should actually go away and that rich people should just be able to do whatever they want. Because they're rich. Yeah. Nobody thinks this is a good idea except for a handful of very, very rich people. They're in the top 100 richest people in the world. And they are systematically just trying top 100 richest people in the world and you know they are systematically like just trying to influence how people think and it's scary that it's getting

to universities america's universities are still like thought leaders in the world do we have good billionaires as far as we know like i don't dig all the way in but let's take like i don't know is elon musk richard branson, are these guys, are they working? The Gates Foundation. Gates Foundation is doing some shit. Pretty good shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Is it actually, or like, is it one of those when you look deeper, it's, uh-oh, this is actually. I don't know. Probably there's some weird shit. It's mostly philanthropic, but like, yeah, I think at every level, no matter what side of the aisle you're on, like, this is happening, whether, you know, you liberals give grants to universities too, and it's not always with like the, hey, you're going, like this is happening, whether, you know, liberals give grants to universities too. And it's not always with like the, hey, you're going to do what I say.

But you clearly will have some kind of influence when you give any, you know, university a significant amount of money. 60 Minutes had a report this past weekend about a Gates Foundation charitable trust where they gave scholarships to people with an aim toward making the student population in America's universities more economically diverse. So not based on race, but based on people who come from lower income families. So that's what they're doing. And then the Kochs are basically buying and selling professors to try and influence people into thinking that the government is evil. Yeah, because their whole thing is the government has regulations and they hate that because they're polluters and they don't care about worker safety and shit like that.

What's ironic about them, though, is that they're like pro-immigration because their whole thing is like, that means more employees for us. Right. And so like they're just so laser focused on just their fucking evil empire it's it's insane so yeah and they have a lot of money and like you know they were tied up in Breitbart and shit like that so this is just part of their overall strategy to get into people's minds yeah I mean corporations are these um interesting things where there's you know that whole like corporations aren't people they can't't be defined as people, but they are for sure organisms composed of, you know, that whole thing. Like if you killed the, you know, everyone who worked at McDonald's, McDonald's would still exist as an idea and it's not made of the people making the company.

So it's these big organisms that are, of course, they have their own self-interest in mind and not ours, but at the point to where they don't want the little ones to revolt. It's like, keep them just down. 100%. Yeah. And they're legally obliged to do whatever is in the best interest of the bottom line. So if they know that their McDonald's hamburgers are going to kill 300 people, and there's a potential that that exposes them for a lawsuit that will lose them a billion dollars. But selling those killer hamburgers would make them $2 billion.

They have to sell the killer hamburgers. It is their legal obligation to do it. Yeah, and factoring in the way the PR too, like what would that PR mean for it? Yeah, if it comes out $1 more with killing people, it's like we got to choose the $1 one. That is their legal obligation.

We in the black, baby. It's what they eat. It's what those organisms eat. So real quick, two things happening in the realm of popular culture. The Karate Kid has been revived as a YouTube Red series. This made me very nervous. series. This made me very nervous. The only movie

that I've seen almost as many times as Jaws is the original Karate Kid. It was my favorite movie growing up. Loved the movie. Is that why you asked me if I knew Mr. Miyagi when you met me? Yes. I ask all Asian people when I meet them that question. Including your wife and she was like,

I'm Korean. Yes. Oh, okay. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to derail you. I to get that joke in no it's not a joke i really want to know i want to derail too really quick has youtube red figured out like their thing yet remember netflix figured oh they haven't i don't think i don't know a single fucking person who pays for youtube red oh no i mean if they are it's the younger kids who like they have shows like I think whatever there's like the Rhett and Link show and like other like

Good Mythical Morning. Yeah, Lilly Singh has her shit on there. But I think that's specifically for those YouTube kids. Yeah, it's a weird branding thing, right? Because Netflix was Netflix and all the other ones

are that thing. But YouTube we associate with free and like very raw content. Exactly. So I think this is the first show that I've heard of on YouTube Red that's doing something actually somewhat interesting because the direction they took it is not the direction you would expect them to.

So Johnny, the bad guy from the first one, actually becomes the underdog hero of this series. The Cobra Kai dude? Yeah, the Cobra Kai because his life is so fucked up from that loss to Daniel. He is just a loser who never got his life together. And Daniel is this shitty dude

who owns all these car dealerships and is like, I will chop prices too. So Daniel's the big asshole. Johnny is this underdog who when students who like he comes into contact with however they never really figured out how to make like old men friends with young children in a way that wasn't creepy but so he like starts up cobra kai again to teach these kids how to defend themselves and daniel's like, Cobra Kai's evil must be stopped.

And so it's a conflict between them. But I like the fact that they're going back on the whole thing. I think Karate Kid, the original, fucked me up because it just taught me that underdogs were good inherently, that I should always root for the underdog. Whereas Jason Parge, who writes it, cracked as Davidid wong wrote this article about how like it's not fair to the people who work harder and are better to

just automatically be like no fuck the cobra kai guys they've been working years to be good at karate and then this like skinny twerp comes up and like starts a fight with them who's like friends with an old gardener right and he wins and we're like yes their years of work go down the drain and i think this like has something to do with like i've always been puzzled by i've always been a lebron stan like from day one because i think it's incredible that we have somebody who was like a child prodigy and didn't end up fucked up was just like exactly as good as people expected him to be uh even though there were like nike and adidas billboards just aimed directly at him when he was like 14 years old like it's insane that he's not a crazy person uh but people i feel like

hate on him because he's the johnny of the nba he's like the guy who was chosen and there's just always been this like hate that I think comes from like- For LeBron? Yeah, for LeBron. Like, I don't know. People always hate the greats. I mean, in general, you know what I mean? Like you always be like, man, fuck that guy.

Like, you know, it's, yeah, there's part of it that it could be, yeah, that sort of underdog mentality of like, oh, well, you're so good. That actually means you're bad. Right. Cause you must be, this must be some form of evil,

supernatural chicanery that got you to this point and also not all nerds are good and not all jocks are bad right bad nerds and yeah i like the idea though with this show right that johnny's just a fucking loser because of that and then afterwards like i would love i wonder if there's a scene where he's like look bro i know, I know I was kind of a dick. My parents were getting divorced. I didn't really know who I was. So yeah, I was kind of a shitty guy. And Daniel's like, fuck you, bro. I ain't giving you a break on this fucking Chevy Cobalt. Get the fuck out of here.

And it takes place today in 2018 with apps and everything. And they have Snapchat. Yeah, exactly. But they still keep the conceit uh a that old people are just like friends with middle school students and high school students but also uh that the all valley karate tournament is like what determines your success in the world of los angeles like yes there's the film industry and the entertainment industry but more important is who wins the all valley karate tournament dude you Tournament. Dude, you didn't win AVKT?

Fuck you, bro. Fuck out of here. How many times does Rocky lose? Because Rocky is like a good story of the underdog doesn't win, right? Yeah, he's lost I think in the original four, which are the only ones I count. I think he's only lost twice.

He lost in the original movie, and then he loses to Clever Lang at the beginning of three after Clever Lang literally murders his trainer. And everyone's like, ah, well, Clever Lang's the new champion now, I guess. Yeah. Well, Ramin, it's been a pleasure having you, meeting you for the first time here.

You too. Thanks for having me. First time. Where can people find you? Just my website, raminnazer.com. Or I guess I'm most active on Instagram. But I do a lot of drawing. So I just post the same drawing on all the platforms.

But Instagram, I guess, is the main one. Remember when all the platforms were different? Like you would use Twitter for one thing and Facebook for another. And now they're all just video. And why are we on all the platforms were different? Like, you would use Twitter for one thing and Facebook for another, and now they're all just video. Yeah. Right. It's just, why are we on all the different ones? And the answer is because your parents are on one,

and you want to be a little more yourself on the other. And also how much you want to expose yourself to racism. Right. It all depends on which app you're on. Which is number one? Facebook, then Twitter, then Instagram? Well, Twitter is the ones where the racist can find you, no matter what. Facebook, you'll just have to see passively racist people you know say some weird shit.

Right. And Instagram, I think, is a little more insulated. Facebook's good for finding out who's racist. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, oh, wow. Man, so many people's parents do this. It's so funny when you look and you're like, whoo, boy. Yeah, they don't look happy either.

Like, it's something in the, like, they just get that angry look. It's generational. Maybe. I don't know. Miles, where can people find you? Oh, little old me. Find me on Twitter and IG at Miles of Grey. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter.

You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes! Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we ride out on. And Miles, what is that going to be today? I mean, in honor of Rudolph Giuliani,

I think there's really only one song we can play, and that's by The Specials, A Message to You, Rudy. Because you're so rude, you rude boy. You're not trying to hear your nonsense. No, you're getting me vexed. So we're playing The Specials, A Message to You, Rudy. And also shout out to Brandi Posey,

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