The Daily Zeitgeist - Rudy Wasted On 9/11, Trump Almost Started A War? 9.15.21

Episode Date: September 15, 2021

In episode 989, Jack and Miles are joined by the host of Ridiculous History and Stuff They Don't Want You To Know podcasts Ben Bowlin to discuss Rudy Giuliani being a drunk mess, the California recall having voter fraud claims before the results are in, Facebook playing favorites, threats of Trump nuking China after the election, and more!FOOTNOTES: California Recall Voter Fraud Facebook Playing Favorites Generals Assuring China Trump Was Not Going To Nuke Them Rudy was fuckin BLASTED on 9/11 LISTEN: Spencer - No Direction Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Wednesday, September 15th, 2021. R.I.P. to one of the funniest humans ever, Norm MacDonald. Damn, that one hurts. And Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump are still alive. Unrelated. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. If you like pina coladas and a mouth full of pain. If you like sweet gorgonzola and alcohol made of grain.

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And again, reference to that Del Curry viral thread where younger people were just warning him generationally if the dating game has changed they're pegging out here pegging out here also there was a dress at the met gala that was something about like peg oh peg the patriarchy yeah so pegging is being like appropriated as like a feminist thing as opposed to just the thing that people like to do it was cara delavine yeah so shout out but uh and mine was in reference to pina colada flavored cheese that uh we covered on yesterday's episode that is a thing that exists in physical space for some reason uh well miles we are thrilled to be joined once again by a writer who's one of the best podcast hosts

and executive producers out here doing it in the podcast game. You know him from stuff they don't want you to know. Ridiculous history. Please welcome the brilliant, the talented Ben Bowling! What? Bowling! You guys have me back on.

Yeah. You're catching Bowling. Contractually obligated, you know, because of the iHeart thing. Yeah. We love having you, Ben. What can we say? What can we say, man? Oh, thanks.

A.K.A. We were obligated to have him on. Is that right? No. Ben Bolin. It's always the Dipset song. Ben Bolin. Yeah, yeah.

Anyway. So what's new? Oh, man. Guys, weird, right? Just talking about time in general. Ben Bowling! weird thing there are many more important things happening in the world you've got those crusty patches over your eye like uh homer simpson after he gets the eye surgery and the symptoms yeah but i i didn't i was so i could curse on this one i was so fucking stupid man it didn't occur to me until i went under the laser that oh yeah it's eye surgery which means you can't look away right so i i had my last minute like I was a total wuss about it. And I was going, okay, Hey, and the surgeon guy who does, you know, does this for a living probably hears this all the time, you know, just like a kid who gets scared at the last minute on a roller

coaster, a water slide. So he just went, I know, right? And then kept going. I know, it's fucked up, right? It's so bright, it's so bright. But that was on me. You know, we're still over here, as people know, in the South, we're still struggling against the governor, Brian Kemp. Lower suppression is a very real thing.

I know out you guys' way, there's a recall, right? Yeah, man. Walked to my local elementary school yesterday, as I do every day. No, that's not true. But that is, yeah, voted, had a nice little walk, felt very neighborhoodly. It was nice. Oh, you actually, you went to to you filled your ballot out there you didn't drop off physical space i i don't know i always get nervous about the mail mail system

yeah because all the reason because all the fraud going on right yeah man i saw i saw those big pallets of votes that were being delivered for blowing joe biden yeah dude yeah i'm about to i gotta go drop mine off i'm gonna bike over to the, one of the parks. Like every park near me has a, like, it's the easiest thing. I'm more like, I'm like trying to figure out which park to go to, to drop off this ballot. But hey. I also had to get my steps in, you know, so that was important. All right.

Step it up. Step it up. Did you guys hear, did you guys hear about those, I can't remember which state it was in, but I think on the GOP side, people were putting out fake ballot drop boxes. Yeah, I think that was during the presidential election, right? Yeah. Yeah, I felt like there was something like that in Texas that happened.

But I mean, I'm sure that's going to fucking be somewhat normal. Yeah. Because Republicans, like their whole thing is basically like yeah the election was stolen they're like you won that one oh okay okay they just don't have they don't have the numbers so they're an insurgency and they're trying to uh figure out different ways to cheat and yeah you know too bad it's not measured by like how much like like weird non-fDA-approved COVID treatments you can down physically to make up for the loss in numbers.

Joe Rogan. Joe. The hard tut-tut. Yeah. Well, that is going to be the first story we talk about, Ben. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. But first, just a quick run through of what we've got coming up. It is too late for you to vote, but the voting happened. a little bit better in a moment. But first, just a quick run through of what we've got coming up.

It is too late for you to vote, but the voting happened yesterday, as you listen to this, today, as we record it. And we don't know who won, what the turnout was like, all that good stuff. But Larry Elder apparently does, because he's already claiming that newsome won and cheated so that's that's kind of a wild come on just like on the playground like being like you cheated like before the first shot is taken like in basketball or something what huh uh while you're checking it up we're going to talk about facebook there's some facebook Facebook leaks that the Wall Street Journal is publishing. So we're going to talk about what those reveal. We're going to talk about the revelation in the new Bob Woodward book about just like kind of the final days of the Trump administration. Just how upside down everything was, how close we came to maybe going to war just to kind of make him feel better. We'll talk about Rudy Giuliani. I mean, this could be we might have to do an entire week on Rudy Giuliani's 9-11 speech. But on the 20th anniversary of 9-11, this man went out and really he he put one on and then uh put one

on all of us so we're going to talk about that we're going to talk about the activist the new reality show but uh fuck all of that plenty more but first ben we do like to ask our guest uh what is something from your search history uh so recently you guys know i do a show about critical thinking applied to conspiracy theories recently i did an episode that had me deep in the world of cheese which i know sounds boring but it goes it goes with your excellent aka earlier jack so it turns out i i got this uh got this lead from someone who wrote into the show and said, Hey, it's kind of weird that people in the U.S. eat so much cheese, right? And so I thought, I don't know, man.

I'm very pro-cheese. Yeah. Hey, fuck you, man. Where do you get off, sir? Oh, fuck you. And that was the end of the conversation. Yeah. It did not look anything.

What a hater. Yeah, I went gangster so quick, you know. I was like, what's your phone number? And I called him and I was like, where the fuck are you at? You think you are. Your cheese sucks. But what I found out was quite interesting. It turns out there is a real big cheese.

There is a cheese conspiracy. A cheese-spiracy to make people eat more cheese. And it dates back to like the power of the dairy industry in the 1920s and 30s. And there is a concerted effort to push the public into consuming more cheese, even if the US public doesn't particularly want it. Because they got all this excess milk, right? So they have to turn it to something that can stay edible for longer.

And then they have a bunch of cheese and they're like, what are we going to do with this cheese? So a semi, I guess you'd call it private public thing called the National Milk Producers Federation and then the National Dairy Promotion Board. They get to be a lot of acronyms, but what they essentially did is they started sending scientists to these various companies, like Taco Bell and any pizza place,

and they were infiltrating it, and their whole job was to be like, you know what would be badass here if we just put some more cheese on it. I mean, unfortunately, they weren't wrong. That did make it better. But yeah, we've talked about this before on the show. wrote a book called Salt, Sugar, Fat about like the history of how fast food companies and just all food companies used science to basically make food addictive, which is the real reason that

we have the problem, a lot of the health problems that we do. But one of the details, one of the stories was like they had a surplus. When skim milk got popular, they had a surplus of milk fat stored in caves that were cold. And they just basically got rid of it by getting Domino's to add extra cheese on their food and shit. Exactly. Yes. Yes, dude. It's all the work of something called Dairy Management Inc. management inc and uh at since they started you know like getting into just in taco bell for instance since they started getting involved with that company cheese use increased 22 which is nuts

because taco bell is already very much about cheese and i don't mean that as a ding i'm pro you know put more of that shit on i'm part of the problem now you know yeah yeah of course they took away the mexi melt that had a lot of cheese in it and the mexican pizza anyway but that's funny is like at the end of like 2018 there was that story that like we had over like almost 1.4 billion pounds of surplus cheese just stockpiled in the u.s because they're like what the fuck which and they all can point to the fact that people are drinking less milk so they're having to make more cheese to be like well we can't just throw this shit away and it's like uh why don't you ramp this shit down yeah rather than just sit we're not going to hit a point where

we're like oh guys our strategic cheese stockpiles are running low like come on now i mean, one of the big kind of facts that we know about American diet that is kind of undisputable is that heart disease went down during World War II because of dairy rations across the board. And the dairy industry is powerful enough that they just got that shit shut down so that it wasn't a big story. But yeah, shout out to the dairy farmers. The less overtly sinister big oil of America. Yeah, big fart. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? You know, I was going through my list of overrated things, which is alphabetical. And

I got two for you. I don't know if we'll agree on the first one, but I think the Met Gala this year struck me as kind of disassociated from the world. And I felt bad because I love museums, but I was like, there's a lot of other shit going on, you know, and there's so much money involved in this and could that money go somewhere else? So maybe it's just me being a curmudgeon. I don't know. What do you guys think about that? Like, I don't want to be, people should do what they want with their money, I guess, you know, and it's, it's kind of high roading folks to say like, Oh, how much did that cost? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I loved, I loved the AOC dress, Tax the Rich, right?

And there was another one we were talking about earlier. What was that? There was another one. Cara Delevingne, Peg the Patriarchy. Yes, yeah, that one. But I don't know. I felt like maybe there was a disconnect. It felt a little like Hunger Games-y with all the stuff people have been through. Absolutely. I feel like the Met Gala is always when the most wealthy are like, okay, this is where

we get to dress up like the capital in Hunger Games. Yeah, let's do, it's called 1% or Halloween. It happens in New Yorkork every year it's not for poor people because you can't afford a forty thousand dollar ticket or whatever it costs but yeah i mean i don't know it's it's you know everyone's trying to do what they can do some things seem meaningful other things like you know at the same time like i'm just me personally i'm not as interested in the met gala as i used to be so i i forgot it happened until i saw the pictures going like oh right right right right right that's okay yeah so yeah i don't know what the

audience is exactly yeah i mean that's a good point again like i i i'm i love museums and the first thing i did was i i had not really known much about this event and so i was like all right what are they raising money for you know what i mean because if they're raising money for like literacy or they're raising money to combat disease or something then i'm the one being an asshole right so i had to i had to check that real quick and it goes to its fundraising for the Costume Institute of the Met. Anyway, I shouldn't yuck somebody's yum. You know what I mean? Fashion is important and cool and like a totally valid art form. And I think like historic fashions are very interesting.

They got like seven centuries worth in their collection. So it's I think it's a repository of some amazing human feats, which is why I had a second answer for overrated. And I'm sure it's something that's been on the show before. It's definitely not a hot take. I think monarchies are overrated. And a lot of folks who live in monarchical societies have very clearly told me that they disagree with that idea. you know, group identity or whatever. But also I have to point out there are some, there are some Royals who would tend to agree with that because they left in, in the case of the UK, right. And they ran to Canada, I think. And California, California. And, uh, I, I don't know, you know, maybe one of my friends was telling me I was being a jerk about this because he was like, you know what it is, dude, I think you're just mad that you weren't born into a monarchy.

Cause then you'd be all about it. They hate us. Cause they ain't us. I had a, yeah, I had a moment during the Trump presidency where I started wondering if monarchies are better because they like separate out the pageantry and like the, like there's something almost like spiritual about like the way,

like the role of the monarchy and it, but they're completely powerless, which is like now nowadays, which I think is nice so that you just have bureaucrats who are in the leadership roles and not somebody who like you're trying to ascribe this like religious like aura around which i think america has the monarchy and the prime minister role kind of combined into a single position in the president and that's the first for our country yeah but yeah also the monarchy is kind of combined into a single position in the president and that's the first for our country yeah but yeah also the monarchy is kind of weird it's kind of weird i mean look you're gonna get

the same problems either way because that's true the end of the day no matter who you think's in power there's plenty of information out there to tell you who's really in power and then you go from there because it's yes it seems like there no one is like seems more or less susceptible to this kind of stuff but i don't know it's i don't like i gotta marry yeah we have like ours is the the first family and it's just put in everyone just thinks no one can do wrong there because like there is this weird default that the president could never do anything wrong when you say things like presidents are most they're you know they're war criminals if you really look at all on paper they're committing

oh i don't let's not talk about not my president yeah well there's a reason that the u.s has never agreed to giving the international criminal court any sort of jurisdiction and pump the brakes real quick if the conversation ever gets within a mile of that direction. But I see what you're saying. There's also definitely a valid argument that the U.S. in practice is an aristocracy. It has a lot of aristocratic values. To your point, Miles, follow the money to find the power, things like that. It goes quickly into some cynical, possibly conspiratorial territory, but that does not make it untrue. And you know that, Jack, the thing about that powerless, what you say, relatively toothless idea of a monarchy, like a constitutional monarchy or

some other kind of caveated monarchy if i remember the law correctly in the case of the united kingdom the queen can technically do a lot of stuff like can make a decree or can change the law but it's phrased some something like comma with the understanding that they won't actually do this right right which is yeah i mean that was uh the earl of montbatten in the crown like the last season of the crown there was a like planned coup that they were trying to get like this very popular ish like lord aristocrat to organize but they would need the sign off of the queen which seems crazy you're like if we get the queen we're good. So yeah, I mean, it's not perfect, but in practice. What's something you think is underrated?

All right, it happened. I played Dungeons & Dragons. The shit's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I know it depends on the personalities of folks you interact with, right? But it was a pretty cool experience for me because I, growing up, was not super good with or at people.

So the only time I played Dungeons & Dragons, and this is a true story, I had the books and I made up like four characters and then I played the game by myself, which was just the weirdest thing. So it's different when there are other people. And I had a lot of fun. I don't think I'm going to end up being like a mover and shaker in the world of Dungeons & Dragons, if such a thing exists. But yeah, it was cool. It was cool.

And I was surprised. So if anybody else has played that game, I w I would be interested in hearing their experiences. I mean, miles, when I said that you, you gotta, you were like, or will to endure like what was happening so i remember being like man fuck i'm gonna play fucking duck hunt like i can't keep up with this shit but then like later on like when i would see actual people like having fun with i was like oh damn like yeah i'm i missed that boat i mean i played magic the gathering uh that was probably the closest i got to to that kind of thing but i feel like you'd make a good dungeon master you know with your voice and stuff like that he will be you say you're not a mover and shaker they'll be like come on man hit us with those sultry tones thank you thank you i uh i don't know if i have the

experience though the only thing that i ever knew about Dungeons and Dragons, I learned from Mazes and Monsters, the Tom Hanks movie in which Dungeons and Dragons kill somebody, I believe. And I was like, that's more than enough. Thank you. Not be partaking. Too risky for me. Yeah. But I actually just watched E.T. again. And the beginning of that is Elliot, who's just like the cutest kid that's ever been on camera, like in a movie before. But he's like too young to play Dungeons and Dragons with his older brother and his older brother's friends. So that was just reminding me. To you, man. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come right back.

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And we're back. And so the California recall officially happened yesterday. But the day before that, I believe, Larry Elder, the person who is most likely to unseat Gavin Newsom, if Gavin Newsom does get voted out, had already published a webpage that was claiming that Gavin Newsom cheated when he won the election that hadn't happened yet. Yeah. So, okay. Getting out in front of it, you know? Because he said before, he's like,

I suspect there will be shenanigans in that we are mathematically outnumbered by almost two to one. That's shenanigans, not math. mathematically outnumbered by almost two to one that's shenanigans not math right and then this whole thing is like their their point by point thing of like on his anti-voter fraud website there's just this line it says these announced statistical analyses have detected fraud in california resulting in governor gavin newsom being reinstated as governor she came out monday So a lot of people were like, sure. I guess this is just purely how things are going to be run for like like Trump is type

GOP candidates. And again, this is like the the bad, I would say, trend for Republicans because they're showing now that they're not always like these nailed on winners that they were like while Trump was in office. That like especially in something that's like competitive and requires you to actually appeal to someone who isn't just your MAGA base. Just saying stuff like, oh, like, you know, he said like women aren't as smart as men or like there's no there's no fucking wage gap between the genders or shit like that. there's no fucking wage gap between the genders or sit like that. They're not,

you're, you're, you're starting to, uh, make the filter a bit finer and not many people are going to be part of the movement. So, you know, this is,

I get it. But again, this is also a very Trumpy move, which is sort of like predict your loss and then just already be ready to explain it away because it wasn't your fault. It's because of fraud and hacking and things like that and i mean all claims that his base is going to fully believe and uh react to as though the election was stolen like it's uh this is like a real a real problem as long as we like have the major

structures in place that we currently do where like as you said yesterday miles like there there is a huge portion of the population that gets their news from facebook groups and that is going to continue to be a problem until that's no longer the case but yeah yeah i mean even look at like the people who are willing to believe larry elder's allegations. Right. Even before they've even been borne out by reporting the results of the election. It's all the QAnon supporters. They are definitely there. Apparently there's like a Q drop from 2018 that said something about like, when are we going to talk about voter fraud in California?

And they've many QAnon believers have hung on to that to say, like, see, this is what we this is what we're talking about. This is because in in the conspiracy, California is actually like there's more Republicans than Democrats in California, according to them. So like the only way Democrats win California is because of cheating, because they know this place is some lib hotspot. This is real America. OK, so they're yeah, they're thinking here is that, OK, got it.

If we if like looking at this election and Larry Elder's exposing fraud, that is going to be the domino piece that triggers Trump being reinstated, because if we prove there's fraud in California, then that'll extend to the general election, in which case there could be electoral votes that could have gone to trouble which means they have to look at the other states and it it can only be one outcome so they've wrapped up their own like fantasies into even this recall election so is it like the conspiracy is so deep that republicans are disguising themselves as Democrats when they vote in California? Is the math a conspiracy? No, man. They don't need to.

Everyone I know is a Republican, so how come they're not asking me? How many libs do you know? Like, really? Exactly. Freaky people with purple hair. I barely see them out. And also, all of their friends on Facebook, like Facebook,

as we're going to talk about, and Instagram and Twitter, they are filtering everything down to like-minded people posting about things that you agree with. Yeah. The other thing is, you know, the,

even like there are some, you know, Anons, the believers out there that are like on the ground and they're kind of like bummed out by the fact that they're not seeing any fraud. This one person posted in a forum said, quote, I'm working in the election. So far, I have not spotted any physical fraud in my county. Most workers are trying their best, but I'm very suspicious of Dominion, the voting machine maker. Like, that's all they could kind of give to be like, but I'm suspicious of this machine.

The voting machine maker, like that's all they could kind of give to be like, but I'm suspicious of this machine. And then other people are starting to scratch their little woolen heads with confusion because they say, so now we need a third time. We have November 3rd. We have the Georgia Senate runoffs. Now we need California. Is there a point that around here that the question can be raised? I'm not sure patriots are in control. Are we the sheep?

Oh, boy. Always happens. I don't think so. But I mean, are we the sheep for letting this go on? Are we the ones being gaslit? Yes. But not by the people you think. No. Yeah.

Also, taking those suggestions or taking those Q drops, as you can imagine, I've had no end of correspondence about this. And that's such a vague thing to say, like the state that would be legitimately one of the world's top five economies, if it were an independent country, is going to have complications with voting. Okay, Nostradamus, you know, nice way, you know, that's like, that's, I think it's ridiculous to treat that as though it is somehow prescient or specific. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, there they'll be, I think there'll be disappointed. It's funny how, I mean, the polling seemed to suggest that there was really a very difficult for the recall effort

to be pulled off. But who knows? And yet I feel not confident at all that when people are listening to this, it won't be like, Elder pulls it off. Oh, God. No one fucking showed up. The Zeitgang is like, guys, I wish I could be back there with you all yesterday. Right. You know? Yeah.

Yeah. In a pre-Elder world. Well, let's talk about Facebook, because as we mentioned, it know? Yeah. Yeah. In a pre-elder world. Well, let's talk about Facebook because as we mentioned, it's all related. The Wall Street Journal is in the process of publishing a bunch of internal documents from Facebook that basically confirm what we've suspected from the outside, but what Facebook, you know, goes out of their way to deny. i can't hear you at a senate hearing huh what was the question say again so the last two drops basically center around the practice of white listing certain vip accounts and not like a handful like five million i believe it is yeah over five and

then also just they're fully aware of the harm that is being caused by Instagram to young people. Yeah. And it's like, again, people can look at Facebook and said, why is this account allowed to post this? Like, and many people have been like, I've had shit taken down because I said happy birthday. Like, and they thought something was up. I don't understand why someone can put stuff like just straight up misinformation. And it turns out they had a program called CrossCheck or XCheck, which was meant to be like a quality control initiative program to, you know, like that was like made to sort of make sure that high profiles or high profile accounts weren't getting dinged by like, you know, just sort of like they're, they're less than refined, like sort of algorithmic process of content moderation.

But really, what this ended up doing is that it just sort of took a lot of these VIP users, which are like celebrities, politicians, journalists, athletes, and it just shielded them from the normal enforcement process. And so like, you know, these some of these people that were like whitelisted, which means like there was no, they can't get got by any of the enforcement things, were doing things like, for example, you know, Neymar, the soccer player.

It allowed him to show nude photos of a woman who had accused him of rape to tens of millions of his fans before the content was moved by Facebook. It was on Instagram. It was shared a ton. And people were like, this is at the very least revenge porn. However you want to take the details of the allegations, this can't stand. But it was because he's a huge account and it

was whitelisted. Other whitelisted accounts in the past have said things like vaccines are deadly or Hillary Clinton covered up pedophile rings, quote unquote. These are the kinds of sort of stories that you see that are on Facebook, but just fall through because some people's stature is just so high that they don't want to get involved because in one of the slides in these internal presentations, there's a lot of back and forth between the employees of Facebook and the board and things like that. And one of the things that it seemed clear is that this whole process of whitelisting these bigger accounts was because they wanted to avoid, quote, PR fires. PR fires.

Yeah. Okay. I mean, that is how they deal with everything, right? Is they let a fucking genocide happen, like where they are the primary tool that is being used and then they apologize for it they put out the fire but it's always reactive it's never thinking in any complex way about how their platform is being used right because the you know it's like with if candace owens wants to post some inflammatory nonsense it'll it'll cook for a second before they do

anything because to them that's better than them doing something and then her saying facebook is you know fucking censoring us and that's all it like they have completely abdicated any sense of responsibility over their platform and what the you know the byproducts are of this and like lack of enforcement it's it's nuts but too because the um what i think that's a really astute explanation because one of the things that i immediately thought was okay they're trying to keep their social media high rollers happy if you look at social media like a casino so they're gonna they're gonna bend the rules because they get added like credibility and clout for being the internet home of a celebrity. It does not matter who or whom, and it doesn't matter what the politicians views are. This also was terrible timing on their side, because I'm sure you guys noticed this.

Facebook came out with some super creepy glasses recently, right there. It's their take on the Google glass. And so the, one of the big deals is, you know, what happens with this information? Is this camera off? And the issue is that that kind of technology could be amazing in the future, but it's kind of a poison pill for it to come from Facebook, which yet again got caught out, red-handed, being extremely duplicitous, you know? And anytime you ask, like you guys said, anytime someone asks or tries to hold the organization accountable, it's always, huh? How's that?

That's an interesting question. Let me explain why Facebook is a metaverse company and more than a social media company. Wait, what? No, I asked you if you know if it's doing harm to young children. So the metaverse, Miles, is... Okay, I'm out of here. But you see what I'm saying? But this is their whole strategy is they know what's happening,

and then when they're in public, you just downplay the fuck out of it. And I don't think that could be clearer, especially as it relates to the second drop of documents, which had to do with their own research into Instagram and its negative effects on teen girls. They've out loud many times before things like, you know, they're this, this is probably a broader issue, but I don't, you know, I don't know what the exact connection is. We, we have done some research, but it's, you know, we're not, it's, we're not

troubled by it. Meanwhile, internally, they are showing people slides that say social comparison is worse on Instagram because they're saying that sort of they did a dive into teen girl body image issues and different platforms saying that TikTok is short video and it's grounded in performance while users on Snapchat is about, you know, they have jokey filters that keep the focus on the face. In contrast, Instagram focus heavily on the body and lifestyle. The features that Instagram identifies as most harmful to teens appear to be at the platform's core. The tendency to share only the best moments, a pressure to look perfect, and an addictive product can send teens spiraling toward eating disorders, an unhealthy sense of their own bodies, and depression, according to their internal research. It warns that the Explore page, which serves users, photos and videos

curated by an algorithm, can send users deep into content that can be harmful. And for anybody who's like, well, at least they're doing the research and looking at this stuff, the way article after article about the internal culture of Facebook reveals that the person who does this research and brings it to them or initiates the research in the first place, that person gets ignored. Their projects don't get funded. The person who introduces the thing that boosts, you know, how much time people are spending on the app or like how much they're interacting with a feature. Those are the people that get promoted. And it's just it's a completely like at a cellular at the level of DNA. The company is just incapable of doing the right thing on the front.

Isn't their argument also something like, guys, this is really complicated. OK, we've got a lot of competing voices. We're hearing them out, you know? And we're comparing these things very carefully. Like all the kind of, you know, Weasley things, I hear you type things to say. But it sounds to me, if this is a pattern that has been similar to other companies in the past, like maybe oil companies or tobacco companies, and I don't think that's an unfair comparison.

If it's similar to the way they handled research, then it sounds like they're looking for that needle in the haystack thing that kind of furthers their ideology or the way they would like to be portrayed in public. So they'll go past 99 studies that all agree to find the one that says like, well, Instagram is actually, you know, good for capybaras or something. Yeah. I do think it makes your body stronger. And I do think comparisons to tobacco and even fast food, even though like the food industry is still, you know, basically doing doing bad things. But I think it almost understates the problem because of how these social media companies have basically taken over advertising, which is such a massive industry. And like change the face of just like how companies think about like consumers it's going to be incredibly difficult to kind of reverse any of this

and it's also a problem that shows up in people's mental health and mental health is not a thing that you can like draw a one-to- one comparison to like you can on like smoking causing cancer. You know, it's good. It'll be easy for them to come up with their own research. Yeah. And that was the thing when, you know, Zuckerberg was up and testifying in front of the Senate. They were like, yeah, can we see your research into this topic? Like, you know, like we're really curious from your perspective what you're seeing. And later on, they got this, like, letter that had nothing to do with what they asked for. And they said, let me tell you about the metaverse.

Many challenges with conducting research in this space. Quote, we are not aware of a consensus among studies or experts about how much screen time is too much. or experts about how much screen time is too much. Okay. They also told the senators that their internal research is proprietary and quote, kept confidential to promote Frank and open dialogue and brainstorming internally. Even though these leaked dialogue show there was no Frank and open dialogue.

It was like, and right. Yeah. You know, it's just a, so, you know, they know what they're doing and they keep doing it.

You know, I'm not sure what else we'll find out during the course of all these like as this investigation kind of plays out from the Wall Street Journal. But I'll be shocked if it's anything positive. And you'd hope that for people who have the responsibility to look at things like this to regulate them, you'll be like, oh, my God. Yeah, they don't give a fuck yeah they're just they just see how much revenue they get from advertising and it doesn't matter and it's and i get why it's a lucrative product for people who make products because the way facebook says like yo i can get in the fucking head of the most specific person right now who do you want to sell this orange basketball to someone who's five three and is a poly polyglot with who went to college on the West Coast? Say less. And what's the fucking point? And we talk.

I mean, it's like a trope on Twitter all the time. And on social media, everyone laughs about it. It's like, oh, my God, man, I just bought 900 things off Instagram. Or like these Instagram ads are fucking like they're speaking right into my head. Yeah, because they've built all this psychographic data through the platform. Yeah, that every time like that happens, you are basically losing free will,

handing it over to Facebook, basically to make decisions for you. And, you know, I'm not begrudging people for making that choice, but it just sucks. It's a shitty situation that we found ourselves in. It's a shitty choice to have to make in the first place. I would highly recommend checking into ad blockers. There are different extensions you can get that will,

they used to take them away all entirely, right? But they can at least mitigate some of that experience. And, you know, there's, I don't know if there's a way to like screw the lid of Pandora's jar back on in this regard, like social media has replaced so many things for people. In some cases, it's replaced human interaction. In some cases, it's replaced your source of news. And it is profit-driven. It's not for the people aren't thinking, how can this pervasive,

persuasive technology make the world a better place. They're not thinking about that. They're like, who would buy this bidet? What do you guys think? Is it that guy from earlier? Say less. Yeah. It turns out it's me. All right.

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All right. apologies to the future. All right. Let's talk really briefly about the latest revelations in this Woodward book, Peril, about the kind of transition from Trump to Biden. One of the revelations is that China was convinced that because Trump was getting belligerent, just leading into the election as he kind of faced the possibility that he might lose, that, you know, the U.S. government was unstable, the transfer of power was up in the air, and he was, you know, starting to talk shit about starting a war with China or Iran, and to the point that one of the generals had to call his Chinese counterpart and say, this is a quote, I want to assure you that the american government is stable and everything is going to be okay

we are not going to attack or conduct any kinetic operations against you that shit was so first of all that's just like what what you say, that sounds like a publicist talking about a person who has just like, you know, been checked in somewhere. But that was before the attacks of January 6th, at which point they were certain something bad was going to

happen because they were witnessing what was clearly an attempted coup to everyone outside of the country. I feel like because we still live in this country with like Fox news and Trump supporters, we're probably like uniquely insulated from the truth of like how dangerous that situation was. But after January 6th,

China was freaking the fuck out and the military had to actually make changes to delay military exercises. So in this second call to address Chinese fears about the events of January 6th, General Milley promised, we are 100 percent steady. Everything's fine. But democracy can be sloppy sometimes. Oh, and that didn't work. You know, they's the U.S. They were still rattled. Bunch of rascals. That's us.

Yeah. He also felt the need after that call to confirm with the people responsible for physically launching nuclear weapons that he had to be involved with the process. Like, he was like, okay, so just so we're clear, let's run it through. He could come in here, start telling you to launch nukes at China. But you have to bring me into the room, too. Like I have to be involved in that conversation. And by the way, this is somebody that was appointed by Trump.

So this is not a deep state actor from like the Obama administration. a deep state actor from like the Obama administration, the head of the CIA, also a Trump appointee was of the opinion that America was on the way to a right wing coup. So yeah, it was as bad as it, as it looked basically is what is what you're hearing. Like literally this is a quote,

the CIA director, Gina Haspel, for instance, reportedly told Millie quote, we are on the way to a right wing coup. So yeah. Oh, what do you know, Gina Haspel, you black site operator?

I know a thing or two about seeing a coup, okay? Yeah, right. The one thing that they do know is this sort of shit. Yeah. It's true. Everybody outside of the United States knew that they agreed. Right. No one was ever like nobody was saying, well, you know, democracy can be sloppy sometimes. They the air, right? And in many cases, very much like just a few bad calls or a few misinterpretations from going very wrong very quickly. You see that and you're like, well, can we? in the united states that peaceful transfer of power is one of the the sort of golden geese of of any nation state and it's not it it feels like it's a sure thing for a lot of people who

grew up here because it almost always was but that never guarantees that it will be the case the next time that power is transferred and like other countries are very very familiar with this and this is like anytime you hear about an election coming up in any country you can be you can be a hundred percent certain that the world's intelligence agencies and the big corporations are keeping a close eye on it because if shit's gonna wrong, that's when it's most likely to happen. And like, I, I agree with you. I think people don't know just how dangerous or maybe don't want to admit just how dangerous, how close this was. I mean, is it, is it like Cuban missile crisis level close? I, I don't think that's hyperbolic to say. Yeah, that's what Evans always says when he went over to Kiev to like after that, the Ukraine capital like kind of devolved into a civil war. Like the thing he kept hearing was people being like, I can't believe it happened here. We never thought it could happen here. And it's just when it's another country, it's just like, yeah, that's what happens in other countries because that's the international news that we get. But when it's your country, you're like, well, I have a wealth of experience that tells me that our country does not devolve into a coup. And I also it's now part of a political like discourse as to whether that was even what I saw. So it just like also and this is going to surprise you guys.

It turns out Mike Pence is a spineless weasel. He was definitely considering overturning, upending the election certification, even spoke to, and this is terrifying that the fate of our country was in these two guys' hands. He had a conversation with vice president Dan Quayle, was in these two guys' hands.

He had a conversation with Vice President Dan Quayle, who oversaw the certification of the 92 election in which he was on the losing ticket and appeared in that conversation open to going along with Trump's plan, pushed the false claim that Arizona's voting systems or voting results were wrong, and asked whether there was any way he could delay certification.

So it was on the fucking table things almost went as bad as we had feared they they could go and dan quayle is still alive yeah still out here doing it i didn't know that from that let's uh let's talk rudy giuliani mark milley also makes an appearance in this one, actually. Yeah. Look at that. Two for two. Yeah. He's like, I mean, he had a great evening on the 20th anniversary of 9-11. He went to Cipriani, you know, nice dinner. It's Christmas, you know.

He got the most drunk I think we've ever seen him. You know, he's had some remarkable appearances on Fox where he was a little bit, you know, animated, a little sloppy with his pronunciation. But this is clearly something else. So something that was just on such a level that he had to do an interview with the Daily Mail the next day to like clear up what people believed. Like immediately after.

Yeah. Yeah. So let's check out one of his, the thing that really caught a lot of people in the uk's attention when he was talking about you know kind of the his interaction with queen elizabeth when he was given a an honor after 9-11 she said you did you did a wonderful job on September 11th. And therefore, I'm making you an honorary knight commander of the royal something or other. I turned down a knighthood because if you took a knighthood, you had to lose your citizenship.

I know Prince Andrew is very questionable now. I never went out with him. Ever. Never. Never had a drink with him. Never was with a woman or a went out with him ever never never had a drink with him never was with a woman or a young girl with him one time i met him in my office and one time when we had the party right bernie you were there okay uh wow i never had a drink with him he He did a voice. Oh, yeah. He later.

This is this fucking interview that he said. He defended that Queen Elizabeth thing. He was just saying like he's like, I wasn't mocking the queen. OK, first of all, it was, quote, an interpretation that's totally unfair. I use an English accent. And he goes on to say, and I have never mocked it. I imitate Churchill sometimes.

You know, he's like, I have a sick English accent. Sue me, I am hilarious when I do an English accent. His English accent sounds like he's got shit in his mouth. I mean,

the way he kicked that off was a little look two out of ten on the attempt trudy sorry right and he and he wanted to clarify he was not drunk okay he said quote i am not a drunk i don't think i've ever been publicly drunk in my life the last time i was was probably in college i like to drink scotch and have cigars that's where it probably comes from i drink moderate amounts of scotch i mostly drink scotch because I like to drink scotch and have cigars. That's where it probably comes from. I drink moderate amounts of scotch. I mostly drink scotch because I like to have it with cigars. I didn't have a cigar last night. And this is a caricature that the left is trying to put on me. I can't remember the last time I was drunk. I'm not just going to put up with it anymore.

I've got to do something about it. Uh-huh. Okay. It sounds like halfway through saying that denial, he started thinking about scotch. Right. And just like imagining scotch. Right. Just moderate amounts of scotch. I love scotch, especially from the highlands. There's nothing like it.

Just like a peat. Night peat. Nice peat to it. You know. And he continued the, I don't know, the theatrics, the tirade, the slam dunking upon people. But this time, I don't even know where this one is exactly going. This one, he clearly has bad feelings about General Mark Milley, who we were just talking about, and likes to call him Miley. Okay? Because that's how he emas about, and likes to call him Miley, okay?

Because that's how he emasculates him, I guess. Miley? How's that guy a general? Jesus. The other day, he said that the Bagram Air Force Base is not strategically important. I wanted to grab his, what do you have, five stars, ten stars, twelve stars? He has so many stars, they're coming up into his ears.

I wanted to grab his stars, shove it down his throat and say, it's 400 miles from China, asshole! China is going to be our enemy for the next 40 years. You have an airbase 400 miles from them and you're giving it up idiot what the hell is wrong with you who paid you uh donald trump wow but people like you can also just feel the crowd is like scared a little bit yeah because it's about 9 11 and he's's like, who paid you, you asshole? I totally forgot that was supposed to be about 9-11. Sorry.

The Prince Andrew thing was like, that performance that we just heard, wonderful. But the Prince Andrew thing was, why do we think he started talking about Prince Andrew? Has he been alleged to be involved in the Prince Andrew stuff? I think, yeah, at some level. Or maybe he's just trying to get in front of it, like you guys said with Elder. But Prince Andrew is currently embroiled in the ongoing legal dispute, right?

Whether he actually got served those papers. So it might be... Maybe because him and Dershowitz team up so much? There's connective tissue. He's been photographed with Prince Andrew before. It's just such a

guilty dog barking first kind of cliche. You know what I mean? It's like if you meet somebody and the first thing they say is like look you can sometimes helicopters go missing and that's the first thing they say you're like what the fuck is up with you with helicopters bro ask about that yeah it's there's something about the also just like his delivery of it too like he's saying it like it's a like it clearly made the room feel weird too because everyone's like yeah prince andrew was like an alleged like

sex criminal yeah and he's like i never party with him right come on folks hey just that once you were there right and then they thought everybody's like yeah rudy like that's a grim topic so it's 9 11 and you're still up here just off your face meanwhile saying that he's not a functioning alcoholic he's just functioning yeah it was another interesting quote from that yeah he said i'm i'm not a yeah i'm a i'm a functional i'm not an alcoholic he like stopped himself from saying I'm a functional alcoholic. And Churchill also famously soused throughout much of World War II. Yeah, he made it look better, though. The difference between Rudy and Churchill

is Churchill makes us look good. Real briefly, they're doing an apprentice for activism. It's called The Activist. I don't know about this. The contestants will engage in missions, media stunts, digital campaigns, and community events aimed at garnering the attention

of the world's most powerful decision makers. Then who decides who's sexy enough to stay this week uh sure um oh yes noted activist uh sure and uh priyanka i think chopra piyanka chopra jonas yes priyanka chopra jonas and one other person whose name i'm not familiar with it's just so it's like predictable really it's predictable it's highlighting the like most cynical bloodless version interpretation of the word activism like at a time when we need when there's like real energy and we need people to think of activism as something that's like approachable and can affect real change and they're doing going the route of like well you go with a think tank and then you like influence the

board of like bp to like invest in your fucking product and it's just like i just hopefully no nobody who's interested in activism will watch this. Hopefully nobody will watch this, but especially nobody who's like, if a young person is interested in activism watches this, they're going to be like, oh, fuck. Like, that's what activism means. Water is important to me. And that's why I'm here to talk with the Rands Corporation, the good folks at Nestle and our friends at McKenzie. That's where activism starts yes jesus tell us about your ideas oh and we'd love to have you sit down with the folks at

general electric to talk about your anti-war uh platform yes they would love to hear about they have they are so excited to speak they're just like shooting guns off right yeah this totally has that energy of like what happens in boardrooms when like there are real stakes and but they're just like let's make this a weird product that has nothing to do with what it is because we don't even understand the importance of activism from our perspective because nothing needs to change based on how we live so this would be a fun little show right like you get all the people like who can make the best sign at a protest, like with only two colors.

No, no. You know what I mean? Those kind of contests. Yeah. It's going to be great. It's going to be great on poster design. And I don't know like if they're how they honor like the actual spirit of activism through a show like this.

You know, if you're, if it's really that important, like you, you'll just, you know, if you're, if it's really that important, like you, you'll just, you'll, you'll identify people to get behind and back them rather than like fight it out for who's the hottest activist. Right. Like who, like, okay. One city, three protests, who can get the most people, uh, everybody pull your, you're going to pull your protest at random from this, you know, this helmet and this helmet that was in Portland and your protest is going to be announced by this week's celebrity

Carrot Top, or whatever. You know, that's dangerous. This is some Kendall Jenner Pepsi commercial ass. Yes, I was thinking the same, dude. Version of activism. And no hate to Carrot Top. Comedy is hard. He's doing shows every day at vacation.

His biceps are harder. Comedy is hard? My biceps are harder. He will whip the shit out of me if he feels disrespected. Big guy, that Carrot Top. You should see him. He's got biceps like Christmas hands. He's big. Did you hear any highlights from the Trump-Evander Holyfield fight?

No, I heard myself. What? I haven't heard anything. The only thing I saw was that some woman was screaming during the moment of silence for 9-11. Oh, really? Wow. They couldn't even get people to shut the fuck up for a moment of silence for 9-11. But yeah, it is what it is.

Anyways, Ben, it's been such a pleasure as always having you. Where can people find you and follow you? Yeah, you can. You can learn more about my show, Stuff They Don't Want You To Know, Ridiculous History, wherever you find fine podcasts like Daily Zeitgeist. You can also find me on Twitter, where I'm at Ben Bolin, HSW. You can find me on Instagram, where in a burst of creativity, I called myself Ben Bolin, B-O-W-L-I-N.

I'm sad I'm going to miss Grimace, you guys. I'm going to have to tune in tomorrow. We're getting to that story. We're getting to the Grimins story. One of these days. One of these days. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been into? I have to do it.

This one is, I've been on some projects so I've been away from a lot of social media for a little while and I logged in to Twitter and one of the first things I saw, I'm sure you guys saw this too, but I think we do need to mention it. Just read it to you. My cousin in

Trinidad won't get the vaccine because his friend got it and became impotent. His testicles became swollen. His friend was weeks away from getting married. Now the girl called off the wedding. So just pray on it and make sure you're comfortable with your decision, not bullied.

Nicki Minaj, September 13th, 2021. Yeah, I will be in history books. Just a response to that tweet, Roy Wood Jr. tweeted, I will say this, a woman calling off the wedding because your balls got swollen from the COVID vaccine is a great villain origin story. I totally read that comic book. Nailed it, Mr. Wood. Well, I also saw one where somebody just said, imagine you're going to get married and your cousin's super famous friend

tells everybody about your balls. Or your friend's super famous cousin is out here talking about your balls. I friend's super famous cousin so you're talking about your balls i mean that's like dangerous but is it a pr move to distract from like the legal proceedings with one of her family members i don't know i i'm not saying it's a favorite tweet but it feels like so tone deaf as to be calculated rather than incompetent totally Totally. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey.

Also, the other show, 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexander. Check that out on twitch.tv slash 420 Day Fiance. Some tweets I like. First one is from J Desmond Harris. Jene Desmond Harris is a great writer. Tweeted, I would pay to watch footage of someone doing their, quote, own research on vaccines. Share your screen because I am absolutely dying to know what you're looking at. That was mine, too.

That was so good. Share your screen. I would love to fucking see that. I would love to see what, yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. What is this website? Okay, cool.

Next one is from at Doug J. Balloon. What is this website? OK, cool. Next one is from at Doug J. Balloon. The New York Times pitch bot tweeted opinion. I was a lifelong liberal Democrat. Then my Trinidadian cousins testicles became swollen. And last one is from Elise Morales at Elise Navidad. A.L.I.S.E. She tweeted my high school drama teacher would give us assignments then perform them himself to show us quote what a hundred percent would be oh my god sounds like the most amazing scene in this show like okay thank you so much i will do this monologue thank you thank. Thank you so much. Wow. What a hundred looks like. I'll just go with,

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you might enjoy. Miles, as the song we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy today uh this is uh this is some fun bedroom type music i say bedroom music because this man this artist spencer he does all because he does all his you know he makes all his music by himself in his home. That means, you know, the fucking piano, guitar, bass, drums, trumpet. And he's got like a really dope sound. And I really, really enjoy it. And this track is called No Direction.

And it's from Spencer. So it's got a lot of like, it's like DIY vibes. You know, he's a solid musician. So I don't know. It all comes together. But it has a really nice tone and texture to it. So this is No Direction by Spencer.

His bedroom is a mess, though. A place of legend. Alright, well we are going to suggest you go check that out. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for

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