The Daily Zeitgeist - Run! He's Got A Trend! 4/24: Trump's "Trade Deal", Cardinal Angelo Becciu, Food Tariff Impact, 'Conclave', Gen Z

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

In this edition of Run! He's Got A Trend!, Jack and Miles discuss Trump's "Trade Deal" (feat. Insider trading?), foods likely to be impacted by tariffs, a bit of 'Conclave'-esque drama (feat. Cardinal Angelo Becciu), the most gullible generation (hint: it's not Gen Z) and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hello, the internet and welcome to this episode of Ron, He's got a trend. My name's Jack O'Brien. That is my identical twin, Mr. Miles Gray. Yeah, sorry, Mike. Just a little bit light to the recording. Anyway, yes, yes, the video that keeps on giving. Yes, the identical Australian twins

interviewed talking about their mom, who I am now starting to suspect just keeps a gun on on them from off camera because there's footage of them speaking together simultaneously from like when they were 17. Like they've been there a going concern in the Australian media so which it bummed me out a little bit because like my favorite part of my favorite thing about the clip was just this sense that like this accident happened or this crime happened in like backwoods, Queensland and somebody like Lifted up a rock and found these.

It's like some Errol Morris type shit. Yeah, yeah. Vernon, Florida. And underneath like they hadn't seen the public, but they've been like they'd been on a reality show. There it's like kind of a known thing in Australia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, still love them.

Still love them. Have you seen Mules Skinner Blues? Neal Skinner Blues. Mules Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, still love them. Still love them. Have you seen Mule Skinner Blues? Neil Skinner Blues. Mule Skinner Blues. Nope. That's like another sort of Vernon, Florida type Errol Morris kind of like, check out these people that live in this town.

Look at these freaks. Yeah, that one's just really, it's about a dude who's like gets the other people in his trailer park to make a horror movie. Oh no. And everyone is just like, just like it's out of their mind. Just every single person could spin off their own documentary. It's just it's so I got to watch that. Yeah, that sounds incredible.

There's some characters in it. This is the episode where we tell you some of the things that are trending. Yeah. And the Zoet ghost. It is Thursday afternoon. And right now, a lot of people talking about this Trump trade deal. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, is it a deal?

I don't know. The way people found out about it, or a lot of people on the internet found out about it, was a tweet from Charles Gasparino, like a conservative news person, saying, school. Gasparino. you know, like conservative news person saying, school gasparino. People inside the Trump White House are alerting Wall Street execs.

They are nearing an agreement in principle on trade with India. According to my sources, who are senior Wall Street execs with ties to the White House, no details on timing and recall that we have been here before dot, dot, dot. And people are like,

this other person at Joe Wiesenthal responded, he's like, if this is true, isn't the big story that the White House gives Wall Street executives early heads up on trade negotiations rather than the existence of the deals themselves? Yes, yes. I think that's probably noteworthy. I would say it's at least worth remarking upon, Miles.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. this is amongst all the other many things so gasparino sounds like something that Kimmy gibbler would have said when she was remarking on something being surprising Gasparino. Oh, wow. You know what I mean? Yeah, right, right? Oh That's a gasparino. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yep, all right. Little Ghibler reference for. You know what, dude?

By the way, when you write Kimmy Gibbler into Apple Notes app, it says Jimmy Gobbler. Auto corrects it to Jimmy Gobbler. It does. Jimmy Gobbler? Jimmy Gobbler. I don't know why they don't think Kimmy is a real name. Yeah, I just like also too, what a terrible insult to say to Kimmy Gibbler. I don't know why they don't think Kimmy is a real name. Yeah, I just like also to what a

Terrible insult to say to keep like Kimmy Gibbler in high school. They're like, alright, Jimmy Gobbler One of the first articles that Cody Johnson wrote for at crack for us was just a fake scene from Full House, where everybody's incredibly mean to Kimmy. Kimmy Gibbler, Jimmy Gobby. At that point, yeah, what a Jimmy Govler. Yeah. Oh, shit. So anyway, that's the that's weird. That's Ron.

He's got a good work as president deals getting getting done for us. I feel like these tariffs are about to hit. And you know, it's kind of a race miles between the prices going up on goods and my high paying job putting iPhones together in a factory nearby. Specifically screwing in the little screws by hand. Yeah, and I think that's gonna get me about 350K a year.

So- Sick, dude. Avocados should be affordable, I feel like. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, with 350, that's, you know what they say, don't spend a third of your annual income on avocados, but you'll be able to, you'll just about be able to weather that if you're making 350.

But no, there's a, you know, I've always been thinking about food as it relates to tariffs because as someone from an immigrant background, you yearn for the foods from a place that is not America and you realize, oh, that has to get imported here. Now what of these tariffs? And there was an article in The Takeout just talking about foods that are likely to be impacted by tariffs and a lot of them make sense like coffee or coconuts. Seafood also makes 80% of the

seafood in the US comes from imported tropical fruit. It's not from the Gulf of America? A lot of it's coming from you know Indonesia or Vietnam or India. Gasoline shrimp. That's my favorite. Yeah exactly. I love some BP shrimp. Deep shrimp horizon. Then there's like tropical fruit. Obviously we're not growing any of that here so if you like bananas they are warning the total cost of bananas nationwide could go up by 250 million dollars per year for one person. What could a banana cost Michael? Yeah, right? Indeed, like literally she might be right.

That joke will no longer make sense at the end of this year. I know. The Arrested Development joke where the out of touch rich mom says, what could a banana cost Michael? $7? Michael, what could a banana cost?

Please tell me. Please, please, God. Avocados, another one. That's like, although tariff rates between Mexico and China, we don't see, again, all of this is likely, because Trump could do a U-turn again and be like, yeah, actually, we won everything. No tariffs. Everything's good. We won.

Everyone said I won. I've been getting some sick concessions behind the scenes, and now tariffs are off. We won. Yeah. President deals, wins again. Tomatoes? Yeah. That's a are off. We won. President deals wins again. Tomatoes. Yeah, that's a huge one. That is a huge one. That's one of my faves. They're saying it could potentially rise up to 50% later this year.

This year, blueberries, something the Geist child is powered by eating blueberries. Berries in general have gotten very expensive, but... Yeah. These are all the foods that we've learned are healthy enough to feed a child. Yeah, yeah. Eat a banana. Like avocado, blueberries, these are things that both kids enjoy and that you can just make for them easily. Yeah.

And they're healthy enough for them to eat. Another one, olive oil. You know, that's a lot of that is getting imported. I mean, there is stuff that is being produced in the United States. Chocolate is another one. The Ivory Coast and Ghana are huge suppliers of chocolate. So they're on, you know, they, I think they're on the,

who knows if they're on the list, but yes, alcohol, obviously, cheese, beef even, and that's more because there's cattle that's imported, but also the amount of beef that's exported to other countries. These other countries like, bro, we ain't taking shit from y'all. Right. Eat your own damn beef.

So that, and anyway, there's like a lot of other things. Rice is another one. Yikes, I need my rice and I need my oil and my cheese So I guess I'll just start making my own Is there a way to make rice out of corn is my question they will if they'll try Jack we will probably seeing corn cheese corn rice corn wine, corn coffee. I think they do corn booze, right?

So a lot of the booze is corn base, right? Again, yeah, I'm just saying to replace when people want, like, I want whiskey from Scotland. You're like, we've got American corn whiskey, that's scotch, rice. Oklahoma bananas, get your bananas from, I do feel like we're gonna, there will be huge rises in prices and then if he stays course and then we'll start having just real

shitty local versions, like local being from Texas and Oklahoma. I mean, if they can't even do it, but I mean, there's no way to even replace all of that. So it's like, it might be the most coveted Oklahoma banana of all time if you can get your hands on one. I think the other part too is, you know, we talked about the other, I think maybe yesterday about why Trump did the U-turn. There's more reporting that's saying that conversation with these like store, like big box executives are like,

bro, there's not gonna be like shit on the shelves because we're not gonna be able to bring it in. That was a big one, right? Are you sure? Like, you know how that's all gonna work. And a lot of people are already saying, port, like the ports in California are already, like getting about 60% less volume from China.

That's huge. And when like the, like the existing inventory in the US is depleted and they're like, where do we re, oh, oh, oh. So yeah, this is still, I think this is still one of those. So what's your plan? Where do we go instead for all of the stuff that people need to feed their families? Just don't buy it. Just don't buy it.

If you can't truly just. Yeah. Like a broke boy who needed food. So you don't know shit. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Is that OK? I know shit. I know shit. I know shit about stuff. I know shit. I know tons of shit.

Biggest shit. Well, I think in this boy's life, where Robert De Niro plays the stepfather, he says, I know a thing or two about a thing or two. I know a thing. I know a thing. One of our great leaders, Robert De Niro. Robert De Niro as an abusive stepfather.

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And I don't know how the betting markets are moving around this news, but if you did see Conclave, you know it's full of disgraced cardinals with shady objectives. You know, try- Is that the deal? They're all disgraced? No, there's a couple of disgraced cardinals in there, or soon to be disgraced cardinals

who were about to get fired and then the Pope dies conveniently for them. Oh, interesting, interesting timing on this one. Gasparino. You were the last one to see the Pope. Okay. Just saying. Anyways, good movie. And so people are looking to recreate that movie with headlines, the news story. And we kind of got a good candidate here. Cardinal Giovanni Angelo Bet you be. How you didn't see that coming. Bet you didn't see it. I think. Yeah, sure.

Once one of the most powerful figures in the Vatican. And then Pope Francis ordered him to resign in 2020 because he was convicted in a Vatican financial scandal. I don't know where your head was going people. It was a financial scandal. Yeah, yeah, find a new angle. He was convicted of embezzlement using funds for a London property.

But he also sent Vatican money to his brother's charity and to an intelligence analyst who was then arrested and convicted of using the money for herself. I don't know. It all sounds kind of shady and like they are taking the least scandalizing like approach to each of these. Yeah. Like and then some intelligence analyst who used it for their own purposes. It's like, I don't know, man.

So what? Do we not want to talk about what those purposes were? No, it's just, we're just doing, it's called mitigating crime-splaining. That just, and he bought a London property with an intelligence analyst. Is that like a spy? a shot went on. Yeah Anyways, he was fined. Oh

Had to give up the quote rights and privileges of a cardinal. Oh Which were a lot. He was apparently One of the privileges that he had involved, like walk in privileges to see the pope was one of his previous. So he could just pull up rather than getting in. Wow. Good for him. The pope, not one of those bosses who's like, guys, and just so you know, I have an open door policy. Pop right in whenever you want. No, you need to like specifically, God needs to have told him that you're allowed to just drop in on him.

Otherwise, stay the fuck away from the pope. Yeah. Damn. Lost all his car. They had to give his Albert Pujols jersey and Mark McGuire jersey back. Sucks. Those Evander Holyfield boxing gloves that are signed. Yeah. So he was, he was fined and then they moved him because this is how the Vatican likes to move Real G's move in silence like lasagna. They moved him to a position running the Vatican's saint making department. I Also like this idea Yep, say saint making department. What do you need? Yeah, we got in America. We got you. I got you got a hot one for you. Yeah, that does sound like a great CBS procedural. Yeah, his farts restored the hearing of a child in Argentina.

That's one of his miracles that he did. Yeah, he farted on her ears. Good. Thank you. All right, next. Anyways, this character is appealing. Look at that. Get a load of this guy. I'm told, I'm told is the white equivalent of what? Whose man's is this? Whose man's is this, right.

Get a load of this guy. Me and my fellow whites are always saying that to each other. With a thumb like this. Get a load of this guy. Get a load of this. Anyways, this guy who you ought to get a load of is appealing that conviction and demanding that

he be part of the conclave. Okay, just say no. Can you say no? Nope. Not, not, not to bet you bet you can't say no to this guy. But can he not? I feel like at that point people were like, yo bro, I'm sorry, you're cooked dog. Aren't you in this saint making department getting all shady?

Like it's the lunch table like I know like this guy is sitting there like presumably in the in the world of in the Catholic shared universe like the Catholic cinematic universe this guy's sitting there looking at Miracles daily and being like that one's good enough to be a saint That one's not just like looking at things that violate the laws of physics and reason, uh, actual evidence of magic, like part of the X files wing of the papacy of the Catholic church. Uh, and he's sitting there at that desk being like,

I can't believe they've stuck me with this bullshit job. I got to make up fucking fake magic shit up for miracles. Anyway, he was the first ever Cardinal to be prosecuted in the Vatican's criminal court, which is, I don't know, that's, I wouldn't have expected that to be for embezzlement. I'll tell you that much. I mean, in a way you're like, just like they've got a nice penchant. Real Gs move transgressors to the shadows. Like lasagna.

Yeah, like lasagna. And somehow it's like lasagna. Yeah. All right, let's talk about media literacy. Because there's a recent police. Because that story was fake, guys. We just made that story. We just showed up about entirely made up.

We need to talk, y'all. So Politico recently published an article calling Gen Z the most gullible generation. I have a hard time believing that because I'm part of Jen millennial, the least gullible generation., but also have you met a boomer? Yeah with a Facebook account. Yes, anyone they will send you AI images Unflinchingly and like I don't I don't doubt the facts of the case that like Gen Z has some of the about the facts of the case that like Gen Z has some of the most incorrect beliefs about the world.

I do not think it's a problem of gullibility. I think it is source material. They have stopped paying attention to the mainstream media. And that is the only place that currently has journalistic standards reliably. I mean, but then again, too, you think also, yeah, right. But it's like I had to learn about Gaza from TikTok because they weren't talking about it in our media. Is the article I'm wondering, like just trying to dunk on Gen Z,

because that's really stupid to act like these kids are fucking they suck and they don't know, they don't know how to discern fact from fiction more than like this is an ability. Like I would, I would put Gen Z's ability to like spot a fake news story on TikTok way or on Facebook way above a boomer's ability to spot a fake news story. Like 100%. The thrust should be like, we need to,

we need to do better by the youth of this country Rather than like how these dummies became so dumb dumb by politico. Yeah Yeah, it's I think this one is mainly about how just kind of dunking on Gen Z They also they're like, you know, for instance They also, they're like, you know, for instance, 80% of students regularly encounter conspiracy theories and 81% believe at least one, which like one conspiracy theory? That's what's getting them rated as the most gullible generation. Like one conspiracy. Have you asked us how many we believe in?

For real. What the fuck? They're not the only ones fucking with conspiracy theories. That is a lot. But anyways, yes, to your point, I feel like the blame should be put squarely on old people, like in the era of like AI slop and social media bullshit. Everybody is in desperate need of media literacy education. I think part of the problem, I'd say the largest part of the problem is that the media landscape

is moving too quickly because there's just no regulations on anything anymore. Right. And the other part is that, you know, young people are asking for it. Like they desperately want media literacy education in the schools. They're just not getting it because it's been politicized because the right is now like, you know, there's a new weapon against family values and it's called media literacy training. They're going to question if the Bible's real. Right, exactly.

That's done. We can't do that, we can't do that. There's a 2024 study that found that 94% of teens wished their schools taught media literacy, but only 39% got such instruction. That's the fucking headline. Yeah, there's your headline right there. How they became so gullible. It's our systematic defunding of the education system in this country is rendering the most

horrifying results and the kids themselves know where they are lacking and asking for better yet they are not given it. Great job. Great job. Yeah. Conservative think tank proclaimed that critical media literacy seeks to undermine what it sees as the dominant institutions of Western capital society. Yeah. exactly.

So, male chauvinism, yeah, they're going to question male chauvinism and exploitation of people's labor. Yeah. Ha ha, I remember, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I'd say the one bit of good news is there's like media literacy education is on the rise thanks to like the teens actually asking for it and education workers, like tens of thousands of education workers incorporating it into the schools, seeing the need and doing it themselves,

like whether through field trips or special courses, someone even designed a misinformation escape room. Great, great. But yeah, it just, it sucks that schools are forced to take these initiatives themselves But yeah, especially and the fucking teachers themselves. These are the fucking people who are on the front lines watching the evolution of the development of kids in this country in terms of like their education and they're like fuck yo, we got a fucking I invented a

misinformation escape room to try and just to get this shit going cuz like I don't know where else they're gonna fucking hear about it Again pay teachers fucking everything please Yeah, also just for all those Gen Z being more gullible claims studies have shown they're actually more skeptical of AI technology than Millennials, so They're correct on one thing. Yeah. And I think it's just so, it's just, again, I just love the habit that the US media has on just like dunking on the fucking,

like, you know, generation du jour. Yeah. Like- The young, it's the young kids' fault. Yeah, it's not us, the adults who created the environment for which these people are learning Yeah, and could have voted to get people in who actually take these things seriously. No, no, it's the children that are gullible Rather gullible calves And if you're so worried about like their gullibility and their use of social media for like maybe you stop

fucking uh, just absorbing it, mouth agape, believing everything you read on Facebook. Ah, well, I can't even imagine what's going to happen with Gen Alpha when Gen Alpha, it's time for Gen Alpha's, you know, time in the sun and the media starts going, these iPad kids can't even blink their eyes. All their eyes are dry. Like I don't even know what the escalation is going to be and I fear for it. But yeah, I mean, they already started a little bit. blink their eyes, all their eyes are dry. Like I don't even know what the escalation is gonna be and I fear for it, but yeah.

I mean, I already started a little bit. I see it on TikTok a lot, like on teacher TikToks where they're like, y'all, they don't know where food, they don't know where food comes from. They don't know where food comes from and when I hand it to them, they don't know where to put it on their face. They ball it up and throw it in the air.

I mean, I don't think the iPads are good although I will say that. Oh 24-7 iPads? Nah nah. Probably not. See at least I had to sit in front of a cathode ray tube television and like I couldn't bring that with me and I was beholden to whatever was on and I think just that instant whatever man. And it wasn't and it wasn't what you were watching wasn't made by Casino designers. No, no trying to make something addictive exactly. I'm watching Fucking airplanes of World War two. Yeah on the history channel The closest thing I got to an action movie

All right. Well, those are some of the things that are trending on this Thursday April 24th We are back tomorrow with a whole ass Episode of the show a whole ass episode of the show so we call that Oh on Away, I thought I was gonna say whap but no Wae whole ass episode whole ass episode. Yeah, thank you one See my drop in the book are really just chimed in for that Y'all just a whole episode where I'm talking about Jennifer Lopez and out of sight That's the whole episode

All right Until tomorrow be kind to each other. Yes, kind to yourselves Get your vaccines way you still can. Get your flu shots. Don't do nothing about white supremacy and we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye! The big guests continue on Las Culturistas. This week, it's the very funny Amy Poehler. Don't overthink it. They talk water. We did not drink water growing up. Water was not a thing. Parenting.

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