The Daily Zeitgeist - R.Zeit.P. James Caan 7/7: James Caan, Boris Johnson, Hunter Biden, Anna's Streaming Corner
Episode Date: July 7, 2022In this edition R.Zeit.P. James Caan, Jack and super producer Anna discuss the passing of James Caan, Boris Johnson resigning, the Right picking on Hunter Biden... again, and Anna's Streaming Corner!S...ee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of RZIP, James Caan, instead of RIP. It's
not perfect, but we did want to just open up and rest in peace to a real one. I am Jack,
and I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest co-host, super producer, Anna Hosnier!
Hey!
What's up oh nothing i'm you know did you get a haircut your hair looks great thanks yes i got a haircut wonderful what if i was like well done no my hair fell off halfway it looks great um and james khan i do like a good celeb obit where you get to kind
of look back learn some fun stories about their life so let's just go through some details i
pulled i think you said you have some james khan quotes One thing I learned is that he maintained his strut and bravado off screen, earning a black belt in karate and pursuing hobbies such as powerboat racing and roping steers.
What?
So off camera, he was like a Will Ferrell character, like somebody who would hang with Ron Burgundy, I feel like.
Right.
And yeah, so that's one thing.
Or like who Mark Wahlberg wishes he was.
Right. Yeah, yeah.
Endured the tumult of cocaine addiction and four divorces.
They have to put in there, but wrote it hard.
I think pointing out that longstanding Hollywood actor with an illustrious career had a cocaine addiction is redundant.
Right.
You don't need to say that anymore.
I think it goes without saying at this point.
He was wildly famous for the entire 70s and 80s, and he had a cocaine addiction.
By the way, I feel like you get a pass for that because during the 70s
i'm pretty sure they thought cocaine was like healthy in hollywood coffee you didn't lie you
went to your meeting you pitched a movie while uh aggressively kind of gripping someone's thigh
yeah um he ad-libbed the phrase bada bing in Godfather. So much of The Godfather is stuff they made up
that then the mafia was like,
that is way cooler than what we had.
We're going to take that punch up.
So at one point, he is telling Al Pacino how to kill someone,
and he says, you got to get up close like this,
and Bada Bing, you blow their brains all over your nice ivy league suit uh he improvised the bada bing and it became a
mantra for mobsters and aspiring mobsters like myself um now he's not italian is he no he's
jewish so that is actually italian discrimination, what he was doing right there. Well, if
the Italian-American community
hadn't embraced it so fully,
I could see that being the case. Well, we'll get to it.
We'll get to that
at Streaming Corner, but I would argue
the Italian-American community did not
embrace it to begin with, and I'll tell you
why later. Ooh,
are we going to get the offer
in the Streaming Corner? Maybe corner i hear it's very funny
all right he almost didn't get the role uh so paramount originally cast him as michael with a
and uh carmine caridi as sunny uh but coppola was like now he should do it and he said james
khan said what fucking transformation
obviously I grew up in the neighborhood
I didn't have to work on an accent
or anything
I like that you just called him Coppola
Coppola?
It's Coppola
Is that how you say it?
That's how everyone says it
Coppola? Coppola? I don't know
Fascinating choices.
So this was big.
He turned down leading parts in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest,
Kramer vs. Kramer,
both of which he dismissed as middle-class bourgeois
and Coppola's Apocalypse Now. I'm going to stick with Coppola's apocalypse now.
I'm going to stick with Coppola. I kind of like it.
And then he also turned
down the role of Superman
that ultimately they went
with Christopher Reeves on. He
was very close to being the most
famous human
on the planet and was just like
Marlon Brando
was like, dude, why did you turn that down?
And I did it and got like those the easiest millions of dollars I ever made.
And he was like, yeah, but you don't have to wear the suit.
It's ridiculous.
What were your quotes that you wanted?
So I saw this on Twitter and it's basically Khan's interview with Playboy magazine.
basically Khan's interview with Playboy magazine.
And they're like,
they're asking him like,
we've heard you're like a macho fucking,
you know,
dude and all this stuff.
You're a macho pig.
You're going around smacking people,
humping women in the gutter and all that shit.
Um,
and Khan is like,
uh,
yeah,
that's what all these like trash fan magazines say about me and how I just like get loaded and go do all that crap and I can't
believe they come up with that and Playboy's like so you're not that person and he's like
this is what he says anybody says I am I'll kick the shit out of them which is okay so you are
that person yeah it says no I mean I was brought up to defend myself if I have to but I've never
started a fight in my life and I can't remember the last time somebody started one with me
when I take a drink which isn't often mostly wine I get happy and laugh a lot and I've never started a fight in my life. And I can't remember the last time somebody started one with me. When I take a drink, which isn't often, mostly wine, I get happy and laugh a lot.
And I've never fucked a woman in the gutter.
Not without putting a pillow under her first.
Chivalry ain't completely dead, you know.
Damn.
And then they talked about how he basically spends all his money and has big parties and stuff.
And he got his parents a nice like beverly hills
apartment to bring them out and he's like i can afford it and they were like well you have any
savings and he says no i've never saved any money i don't think that's what it's for i like to live
well and i like to see my family and friends live well that costs money fortunately i make a lot of it. Oh, yeah. God, no wonder he had four wives.
Right.
It was a
real Hollywood
lady killer, if you will.
All right. So that is James Caan.
Let's talk about scandal.
So two countries, two scandals
kind of. So in the UK, Boris
Johnson did, in fact, resign.
I think I said I'll believe it when I see it. I do believe it now because I saw it. He did probe because they I don't know. He's just like, yeah, I don't know.
I'm not going to do that. And I'm going to like I'll take it to the Supreme Court,
at which point you all can kiss my ass. So we have a scandal wherein the Republicans tried to overturn the election and are refusing to acknowledge that they did any of that shit.
And then in the UK.
So basically, I just want to move to the UK is my takeaway from this because it's bad here.
I know it's not a competition,
but it's interesting to watch what qualifies as a term-ending scandal
in the UK
and then not even a story in the US
where they're threatening
the very foundation
of what our civilization
is supposed to function.
I don't know.
UK seems nice,
but it's also really racist racist and yeah um it feels like
nowhere is good just just because we had boris johnson retire i don't know i still don't feel
good about anywhere yeah no that's fair all right let's take a quick break we'll come back
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And Hunter Biden is trending insofar as Hunter Biden is always trending.
I feel like when I see Hunter Biden in trending topics,
it's less of an indication that there's a news story there and more that it might be a slow-ish
news day. The latest news story is that he was caught on camera smoking drugs and drinking in
a sensory deprivation tank at a rehab that, according to some conservative outlets, his dad is paying for.
So I don't know.
The right is just obsessed and breathlessly documenting everything he does.
Yeah, I don't have a lot.
I mean, the thing of like Hunter Biden, like he's just a guy who like is trying to survive.
And to me, I'm like, what does that have to do with anything with politics like
it doesn't change that biden doesn't do anything it doesn't change anything like
they're all still politicians he just has a grown man's son who is struggling yeah but he also is
still from the biden family so you always kind of know, like, he'll be fine, you know?
And so, like, I don't know.
It's like, to the right,
I'm like, this is not ammo.
Excuse me.
I don't even want to talk about ammo.
This is not like the attack
you think it is.
Right.
Well, it's like, it's not like
the Trump kids who are literally
out here committing fraud.
You're just like, okay.
Like, there's actual things
you can go after
about the trump children
that can like be held up in court versus like hunter biden who has like addiction issues like
i don't really know what else he does right like he just seems to be trying to like take care of
himself after like struggling for a very long time i think there's a narrative
of like being enabling and like the nanny state uh that the right like wants to like draw like
be like well look his dad's just like letting him continue to use drugs that like you know a nice spa
or something and um i don't think biden is him do anything. He's a grown man.
Right.
The thing that it always comes back to is they're like,
ha ha, you have a son who has addiction problems
that are debilitating.
And he's like, yeah, man, really love him.
And I'm very sad about it.
So he's like, well, that kind of fucks your whole thing there, right?
It's like there's not much you can say to that, but they're still sticking with it. It's always like, well, that kind of fucks your whole thing there, right?
There's not much you can say to that.
But they're still sticking with it.
Alright, let's get to Anna's Streaming Corner.
What have you been watching?
What has caught your eye?
It's my streaming
corner, streaming
corner time.
Sorry, I had to.
And that was a 25 minute. we'll do a quick cut down of that um but yeah that that was that was beautiful that was inspired by kind of like
90s sitcom television themes that was good so i have a bunch of stuff going on for Streaming Corner because I refuse to look at my emails. So if you
have emailed me, you're not getting a response. Watch these instead of expecting a response.
Watch these recommendations because I'm in no mood to look at my email except for watching TV.
Okay, first of all, this show has caused quite the stir on the internet over its portrayal of chicago and that is the television
show the bear starring jeremy allen white i believe his name the kid from shameless
it's a show about people working in a kitchen it has a lot of great people in it including
ao at a very hilarious comedian it's about working in a kitchen if you guys know anything about working in like a uh nice restaurant kitchen um from i don't know maybe you read
kitchen confidential or whatever or just had friends who worked in these kitchens
it's incredibly stressful very stressful and can cause literal ptsd because the way these chefs act and the energy in these kitchens can be so, so intense.
And I think this show captures it really well.
Yeah.
I highly recommend not working in a kitchen if you are the worst waiter of all time.
That was my experience.
And they did not like me and they did not suffer me very well.
No. It's in a very intense environment. That was my experience and they did not like me and they did not suffer me very well.
No, it's in a very intense environment and it is, in my opinion, incredibly toxic and should really be looked at for a reform, if you will.
But this show really captures that energy really well.
I will say I did kind of get some PTSD from how much they were yelling, even though I
wasn't even in the kitchen.
I was kind of like, but yeah, check it out if you want to see what that's like and also see Jeremy Allen White
in another Chicago setting show outside of Shameless. Though I will say again,
you're from Chicago. You might have some thoughts on this, how this show represents Chicago.
on this uh how this show represents chicago check it that out check it that out check it that out also another show i've been watching is loot on apple tv oh excuse me you can watch the bear on
hulu but uh the loot which is the new maya rudolph vehicle on apple tv hilarious show she plays the
divorced wife of a billionaire. So now she's
just like another billionaire a la, you know, like when Jeff Bezos, his wife divorced him or
like Melinda Gates is like, now you're like another really, really one of the richest people
in the world. And you're just trying to find your way because you've got a divorce and you like all
of a sudden just find out you own all these companies. You didn't know you realize you got
it's a whole thing, but it's Maya Rudolph. So it's hilarious.
And there is a really great scene where her character decides to try and do some good press for herself.
So she she goes on hot ones with Sean Evans.
And it's this clip went viral because it's it's like Maya Rudolph doing what doing what maya rudolph does best like she's so
funny in this scene and uh yeah i really recommend it and a few more special mentions i want to give
a shout out to killing it with craig robinson really funny show takes place in florida basically
uh he becomes like a python hunter to make money so he can like open his dream business so i would really recommend it
claudia doherty is in it just a really really funny fucking show it's all that's not that one's
on peacock so check that out and then you know what i also want to give another special shout
out to usher's tiny desk concert yeah a streaming corner, but to me it was
because I loved it.
Did that just happen
or did people just discover it
because of the
watch this video?
I think it just happened.
Okay.
I think that's why
watch this popped off
because it just happened.
Everyone just started
memeing like,
watch this.
The watch this clip
from the Tiny Desk Concert
is like one of the most
compelling pieces of video
and like one of the most compelling performances of video and like one of the most compelling
performances i've seen in a long time like i couldn't stop watching that five seconds
yeah i know which you know he actually says that in the confession song so i'm glad that he did it
at the tiny desk um the finger movements were very hilarious and then i think out of context it if you see that video, it feels like Ucher's really taking himself seriously when he's watching this.
But if you watch the full video, he starts cracking up right after he does that because he just knows.
It could either be being silly or unhinged levels of confidence.
But either way, I can't stop watching it.
Actually, a great moment of prestige casting
is Usher being cast as Usher in the movie Hustlers
with Jennifer Lopez.
That's prestige casting.
To cast him as himself?
Genius.
Wow.
I did not know that happened in that movie.
And then let's talk about The Offer.
Let's talk about it. I haven't seen it because I haven't seen anything besides Bluey, which is a kid's show.
Let's talk about The Offer.
So The Offer is a television show about the making of The Godfather, like how it got done.
And it's on Paramount Plus plus and it's absolutely batshit so it stars
miles teller as ruddy i think his name is alan ruddy who is the producer who basically makes
the godfather happen we have in a incredible performance as robert evans producer famous producer whatever famous
problematic weirdo uh matthew good playing robert evans and literally acting his goddamn ass off
like ready like his everyone is doing accent work like you've never heard or seen before we have
giovanni rabisi playing mafia boss colombo joe colombo
you know it's like all this weird shit going on here like every person is really hamming it up
except for miles teller who talks in kind of a very mon he says everything in the same way
like i'd be like we've got to get a movie made. This movie's got to get made.
We're going to do this.
It's the strangest choice he's ever...
I don't know if that's how Al Ruddy spoke.
It sounds like they asked everybody to make the biggest choice that they could with all of their roles.
And then we're just like, okay.
And we are not giving ourselves the ability to give any feedback on the no and
then we got dan fogler playing francis ford coppola as you yes coppola he's doing he's doing
something yeah anyway so everyone is everyone is really going for it in this show and including
the guy who plays frank sinatra. Oh my God.
Nutty.
All right.
Other would be such a hit.
Also,
interesting fact.
They did not.
Nobody wanted to cast Marlon Brando except for Coppola.
All right.
So you've been giving me shit about my pronunciations and you just said Marlon Brando.
Marlon Braun.
Is it?
Brando?
Marlon Brando? No, Io. Is it Brando? Marlon Brando.
No, I've never heard that before.
Is it Brando?
Brando?
I can't tell if you're doing a bit, if you are.
I can't remember what I said.
Marlon.
Marlon Brando.
Marlon.
I thought you added an extra syllable.
Mar-a-lin.
Mar-a-long-go.
Like Mary Lynn.
Marlon Brando.
Mary Lynn Brando. Mar-a-longo. Mary-lin. Brondo.
Mary-lin.
Brondo.
Mara-longo.
Brongo.
All right.
Super producer, Ana Hosnier.
Where can people find you, follow you, and hear you in podcast form?
Thank you. I am at Ana Hosnier on Twitter.
You can follow my new public-facing influencer Instagram,
at sellinghosnier,
that's S-E-L-L-I-N-G-H-O-S-S-N-I-E-H,
on Instagram.
Wow, can you believe it?
I'm selling tips, tricks,
and some of my clothes on Poshmark.
What can you do?
And yeah, you can check out my podcast,
Ethnically Ambiguous,
that I host with Shereen Lani-Yunez
on this network.
It's great.
You would love it.
I am around on the internet.
What about the, will you accept this rose?
Oh, shit.
You're right.
God damn it.
Cut all that out.
Cut out the, oh, shit. God damn it. Oh, my God. Actually, maybe out cut out the oh shit god damn it oh my god
actually maybe just cut the whole episode off let's open with a plug and take it from the top
yes and guys the bachelorettes starts i say that because there's two bachelorettes this season
it starts on monday july 11th that is correct. We are having Gabby and Rachel
be bachelorettes at the same time on the same show. It's going to be legendary, as they say,
legendary. I really recommend you watch it with us if you're into reality TV, because who knows
how the Bachelor producers are going to fuck this up. Probably great. Great fuck up coming.
So my podcast that I have with Arden Marine,
we just released our draft picks episode.
That's where we pick who we think is going to win
the show top three with the only information we have,
which is these people's bios.
So, and these bios, boy, do they make these dudes look terrible.
So, I really recommend checking that out.
The new Draft Picks episode is out right now.
We dropped it today.
That's Will You Accept This Rose.
If you enjoy Bachelor Bachelorette podcasting, you'll really enjoy this show.
That episode, we have Padgett Brewster, Gareth Reynolds of the Dollop.
We have Doug Benson and Rob Benedict.
Plus Katie Levine and I, we're all doing our draft picks and we'll see how good we are
at choosing lovers for Rachel and Gabby this season.
So go check that out.
That's the worst way to describe that.
That sounds terrible.
We'll see how good we are at picking lovers.
That sounds terrible.
We'll see how good we are at picking lovers.
Yeah.
Go check that episode out.
And the whole show is a delight.
Will you accept this rose?
I have seen one of these draft episodes live as an audience member, and it is truly a wild ride.
Yeah, you live to see another day.
All right.
Well, that is going to do it for us on this Thursday, July 7th. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Get a booster. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye.
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Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
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I know I'll go down in history.
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Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app,
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