The Daily Zeitgeist - S o c i a l, Swift Justice 3.24.20

Episode Date: March 24, 2020

In episode 593, Jack and Miles are joined by frequent quarantine podcast guest Jamie Loftus to discuss Harvey Weinstein contracting coronavirus, people continuing to congregate regardless of warning, ...how Trump's original response ruined it for everyone, the Senate coronavirus bill, Tiger King on Netflix, a wonderful thread on Twitter about Ellen DeGeneres, Taylor Swift and Kanye West's forever feud, Rita Wilson rapping, and more!FOOTNOTES: Harvey Weinstein Has Tested Positive For The Coronavirus JOSHUA TREE PARK BESIEGED BY OUT-OF-TOWNERS ... Local Neighbors Pissed Trump amid COVID-19 pandemic: With great power comes great irresponsibility. Democrats again block key vote on $2 trillion coronavirus bill as Senate floor erupts with partisan anger The coronavirus outbreak is exposing the devastating gaps between the rich and poor at a moment when America is primed for class warfare Who is Carole Baskin, Big-Cat Sanctuary Founder at Center of Netflix Docuseries Tiger King? Right now we all need a little kindness. You know, like Ellen Degeneres always talks about! She’s also notoriously one of the meanest people alive. Respond to this with the most insane stories you’ve heard about Ellen being mean & I’ll match every one w/ $2 to @LAFoodBank  Taylor Swift and Kanye West's 'Famous' Phone Call Video Leaks Online — Read the Transcript Rita Wilson rapping in quarantine is beyond impressive WATCH: Nomo - Nu Tones Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:07 by subscribing to iHeart True Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 126, Episode 2 of Your Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the coke brothers
Starting point is 00:02:28 it's tuesday march 24th 2020 my name is jack o'brien aka well it was just quarantine Quarantine from COVID-19 And the way it sucked was way beyond compare I couldn't host with another But Miles, please stay over there Courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi-Main And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles don't meet me in the trap it's going around don't meet me in the mall it's going around don't meet me in the club it's going around coronas everywhere isander T to be around. And that is from Crispy Meme Donut. He's gone one, two.
Starting point is 00:03:29 He's got two up. Maybe it'll be a third. We don't know. We'll see. But shout out to you for that young jock going down, a.k.a. We're laying in it. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by Lil Zam herself. Our third co-host.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Or second co-host. Our co-host, Jamie Loftus! You are the second wave, podcast queen stuck in quarantine. Don't touch your face or you'll catch the COVID-19, oh yeah. Wow! You'll catch the COVID-19. Oh, yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:07 You can dance. You can die. As long as you stay inside. Ooh, ooh, don't touch me. Stay six feet from my Zamboni. Oh, wow. Wow. Wow. I really wish I had done an octave for that.
Starting point is 00:04:27 No, that was incredible. I did not know you had that. I did not know you had that in you. I'm realizing that every day we do it, Jamie's giving us a little bit more and more out of her voice box as she sings. I'm like, hold on. Does she have pipes in addition to Zamboni skills? I believe that might be the case.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I want our equivalent of the A Star is Born where we're sitting in the grocery store parking lot six feet from each other and you're like, you're a songwriter. You're a songwriter. That AKA was from Bailey underscore Blossoms and it was her very first AKA she's ever written. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Well, very, very well done, Bailey. I believe she got a shout out from Christy Yamaguchi-Maine.
Starting point is 00:05:15 He did the official coronation where he put the sword on each of her shoulders. I don't know why I pronounced sword that way. Sword. Day of 900 of the quar but yeah so i mean she got she got knighted uh on her first one so that was pretty that was pretty impressive uh shout out to her shout out to all zeitgang sticking with us through uh through this quarantine thank you yeah there was a bunch of Zeitgang who came through to the livestream shows
Starting point is 00:05:47 I did over the weekend, and it was so nice to have friends there. Oh, awesome. So thanks to everyone who tuned in. That's amazing. Yeah. How are those going? They're fun.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I think comedians are figuring it out in real time. You know, some trials, some error. I'm going to try it again on Wednesday. We'll see what happens. Awesome. Yeah. All right, guys. Let's get into what we're talking about today.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Brief preview. We're going to talk about Weinstein getting the corona. We're going to talk about Peppa Pig. We're going to talk about someppa pig we're going to talk about uh some stories about ellen uh we're going to talk about angelinos not knowing how to do this uh we're gonna repeat uh that this is all due to trump's initial failed uh response because that does not seem to be getting through we're going to talk about uh the fuckery uh that keeps on keeping on uh covid class war we're going to talk about the fuckery that keeps on keeping on. COVID class war.
Starting point is 00:06:47 We're going to talk about all of that. Plenty more. Televangelists, if we get to them. Tiger King. Any of y'all watch Tiger King? Oh, fuck yeah, I did. What is Tiger King? You watch the whole thing?
Starting point is 00:07:00 I think I'll have like two more episodes left. Basically, I'm at that part where we're starting to see Joe run for office. Yeah, me too. Joe Biden? That's what I just saw. Might as well be. Yeah, it's about Joe Biden, the Tiger King. Joe Exotic from Winniewood, Oklahoma. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I've seen... Yeah, I just watched Sonic this weekend. Sorry, guys. Oh, shit. Just over and... Yeah, I just watched Sonic this weekend. Sorry, guys. Oh, shit. Just over and over again? How was it? I just... Maybe it's just the quarantine,
Starting point is 00:07:30 but I thought it was a fun romp. I laughed, and then at one point I cried. I think people are just being too hard on shit. Yeah. There wasn't one movie, one comic book or video game movie that broke through and was like, this is an Oscar caliber video game movie that broke through and was like,
Starting point is 00:07:45 this is an Oscar caliber video game movie. But I feel like there were a bunch of decent, okay video game movies that have broken the curse of video game movies. Yeah, it was cute. And I also just, I don't know, I'm just rooting for James Marsden. Anytime he has success, I feel like the world just, you know, he's been around for so long and anytime he gets a big part,
Starting point is 00:08:09 you're like, you deserve it, buddy. And also, yeah, you deserve to die in this movie also. Oh, for sure. Doesn't he like always die? Like, I feel like his characters never like are actually like the dude winning. Well, that's the thing. He's got like movie star presence and looks,
Starting point is 00:08:28 but he's never cast that way. It's weird. Right. He started out as America's favorite cuckold because he was always getting cuckolded in his movies. Even if it was X-Men, he was getting X-Men, if you will. He was getting cuckolded but like uh
Starting point is 00:08:47 straw dogs he was like that's the whole premise of that movie like so he's just kind of like a he just never wins really i fell in love with him in hairspray but he also is like low-key like semi-villainous and that too even though he's really he's the man can sing he's like patrick wilson where you're like wait a a second, and he can sing? And he played John Wilkes Booth in Zoolander? Did he? James Marsden's an American treasure. I actually got to know him as a singer first
Starting point is 00:09:19 and then I was surprised that he could act, but that's just me. Guys, let's talk about, let's let's each do or let's pick one thing uh from each category because we have so much news to get to what is something from everyone's search history that's revealing about who you are mine is buffy if the buffy the vampire slayer game that was on ps2 is if the disc is compatible on ps4 because her majesty we're trying to play more games she loves buffy she was like oh there's this game on ps2 i'm like fam that shit is not working on ps4 and she's like yeah but it's both playstations and i'm like google it and then the disc lo and
Starting point is 00:09:58 behold is not compatible but we are switching to another game she likes simpsons hit and run which is on the playstation store so we'll be doing that and also later on when we talk about activities i have another game i've been playing that i'll tell people about that i'm fucking obsessed the buffy obsession is pan media it goes all across media it's you guys are just about it yeah i mean it's just you know that's like her whole her whole personality is Buffy the Vampire Slayer. So in this quarantine, I'm like, okay, well, if I'm going to become also a Buffy fan, then you must also love Arsenal. And you're going to sit through me while showing you the Invincible season of 2003-2004 because I found a Google Drive link with all those games uploaded. Hey. Are you guys fans of the original movie too?
Starting point is 00:10:44 With Christy Swanson uh i remembered it i i definitely i saw that when it came out and i i liked it but then the show i don't know i think it just i think the way it was marketed i was like i don't know if this this is for teen boy that was randomly like one of those movies i saw multiple times in the theater when i was like that age when'd go into movies, was what you did on weekends. Remember that, back before 2020? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I still have never gotten around to Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It's one person's fault, where in college, on my second night of college, when I had no friends, there was in college on my like second night of college when i had no friends uh there was this girl on my floor who like came like i think she sensed that i had no friends and she also had no friends so she came to my room and she was like have you ever seen buffy the vampire slayer and i was like no and then she shut my door and made me watch buffy the vampire slayer
Starting point is 00:11:42 with her for five hours and so i I just have some Buffy trauma. I got to work through it. Damn. Yeah, you got buff trauma, dude. Don't let people hit you with the buff trauma out the gates like that. I mean, the thing that I thought too, I was like, man, this is going to be dumb. But I realized like the reason she watches it is to like regress, to go to like a simpler time in like the late 90s where like the style of writing,
Starting point is 00:12:04 it was like clearly like at the helm of this writer's room felt like it was a boomer white guy because like the characters the way they speak sometimes i'm like oh that's how this character talks okay sure uh but like i feel about gilmore girls yeah yeah but the i don't know but part of it too as you get on you know i'm i'm almost done with season two uh it gets a little more and more interesting the first season is more like definitely like a comic book like self-contained like pulp comic book like oh this it's like contained it's like oh here's this week's evil spirit that has to be defeated and then you start getting a little more depth with the characters what is something you guys think is underrated nike training club what is that it's an app that is on you know most phone i think android and ios
Starting point is 00:12:47 as well but it's basically just exercise shit but if you have dumbbells like you can say how much equipment you have and you can just get a routine going so like right now i'm running more so i realized because i'm such a sedentary sitter i need to like work on my glutes and my hips so i've been doing like little exercises like that her majesty's been doing other like there's just all kinds of stuff just that you can like sort of maintain your fitness in your own home even if you don't have a ton of space i'll say under it i've been saying it all last week too but the jane fondle workouts on youtube they've been kicking my ass i'm on day day 10. I'm on day 10 of Jane. And it's like, it's so hard.
Starting point is 00:13:29 It's so like, she's so sexy. It's like upset. There's a lot going on in the video because she's 45 in the video, but she has the body of a 22 year old and she's so calm. And you know she has multiple takes to do 22 year old and she's so calm and you like know she has multiple takes to do it but you still feel so bad because i'm like i'm like panting and then she's like
Starting point is 00:13:52 hi i'm jay fonda you ready to squeeze your ass till it falls off your body and then and then that's what you do but you aren't watching it like as an exercise video right you keep saying like she's so hot and you're having trouble breathing. Is that because you're like it's like porn for you? And you're like, oh, right. People exercise to this also. Yeah, I know. I'm just sitting on my couch just like getting horny.
Starting point is 00:14:14 No, but I've been doing it every day. And it's I don't know. It's so it's kind of funny that like there have been I've definitely had healthier habits in the choir than I had outside of it. I can't remember the last time that I was like, I should work out for an hour and a half a day. Like, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Yesterday, we did, like there was some dance party on, I think it was called Dance Church, but it was like some DJ who was like doing a virtual dance party for an hour. Me and the kids danced for a while, and that was the most exercise I've gotten in a month. That's so fun.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I was really out of breath. But yeah, it's fun to dance with little kids because you just get real silly. I feel like you could do a full-body workout with kids of your kid's size because you can like do shit like lifting them up throwing them in the air yeah like fucking do a squats with them and just like work your shoulders and arms bro you might have a lot in your house it was a lot it
Starting point is 00:15:15 was a lot uh i was i was a little annoyed by the end of it i was like jesus christ uh just because like you're like how much how much more can they they don't they don't Just because you're like, how much more can I rip a nanny? Kids are very selfish. They don't care if you're out of breath. Fuck them. They're just very selfish. It's all about their needs. What is something we think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:15:35 Well, it seems like we have some conflict in this category. Yeah. I say overrated is companies giving away shit for quote-unquote free because times are hard right now. Like quote unquote free, like not actually free? Well, more in the sense of like they're acting like they're benevolent and they're so kind to sort of open this part of their content library or this service as part of like their
Starting point is 00:16:01 greater website. When part of me is like, were you guys just exploiting that to make more money and from a calculated business position it's like a double win because hey fuck it even if we cannibalize this segment of our business we can still get points for acting like we're doing something selfless i've just been looking at all these like mostly like on you know amazon is like unpaywalling stuff or other people are unpaywalling certain things and i'm like is it because you really feel like you know this it's like unpaywalling stuff or other people are unpaywalling certain things. And I'm like, is it because you really feel like, you know, this it's hard times or you're like, yeah, we weren't making that much money.
Starting point is 00:16:31 We do this good PR, fuck it, let's do it. And then we look totally chill at that. And like Nike even did that with like their training club shit where like there used to be a paywall for a premium classes. And then they were like, oh yeah, now premium is like free. So you can get all the fitness stuff you want. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:16:46 were y'all really making that much money? Or this was just sort of like, let's act like we did something nice. This is, yeah. I don't know. I'm like, I'm down.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I'm going to be pissed. I'm down. I'm going to be pissed when it turns out, when it turns out that this was all a strategy to introduce it to us. So when they take it away, it's like, yeah, that much harder for us to say no
Starting point is 00:17:06 to it so i actually didn't know that that about the nike training club because earlier i was like damn miles is paying for the nike training club that's that's baller shit no no they have they have a free version but like anything there's like any app right there's like hey there's in-app purchases too so like when they and to your point jack it's like well what happens when the economy gets going again and they start being like oh yeah sorry yoink gotta pay for that now right that's when i'm gonna be pissed but until then i'll take your free shit uh but yeah no i use the free nike training club thing and it's not that awesome uh i was i was more pissed when i was like looking on sites and people weren't offering shit for free. I'm like, dang, what the fuck? I was in a weak moment.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I'm like, maybe I'll sign up for Masterclass. I bet they're giving some shit away. It seems like you could watch a Masterclass. And there are no discounts. No discounts on Masterclass. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? But I mean, Amazon unpaywalling kids content is i think just dope because we all need it right now uh kids need especially when it's like educational
Starting point is 00:18:12 shit i my kids watched zootopia yesterday and like i thought that was a perfectly innocent movie but they like were playing like very violent So you got to be very careful. It's PG. There's a reason there's a difference between G and PG. There's violence in that movie. It opens with a lot of violence. Show your kids Bloodsport and see what happens just to do a little A-B testing.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I was shocked. In the first scene, I mean, I guess spoilers for Sonic the Hedgehog, but in the first scene of Sonic, they're really desperately trying to give him a backstory that no one wants or needs. And so they gave him this mom character who's a gigantic bird, and the gigantic bird gets shot.
Starting point is 00:19:00 In the first three minutes, the gigantic bird literally gets shot by an arrow and then she's like sonic you have to go to the regular world and meet james marston it's the prophecy and you're like what the fuck is this back what the fuck is happening like bambi or some shit i thought you were just gonna say his backstory was that he worked at a sonic and that's how he got his name would have been a better choice no they were like sonic lives on like this weird planet and he was adopted by a bird lady and she loves him but she got shot and so she tosses up this ring and then you see a picture of like san francisco and then they're like sonic you have to go there it's the only place you could be safe and i felt like i dreamed it and then i watched it back i'm like
Starting point is 00:19:46 why who signed off on like bird mom who gets shot backstory it's so fucking weird yeah by the way peppa pig has been on paywalled and i don't know if it was which one of you was uh pointing out something that parents have long known but peppa Pig's face and profile is just a dick. I put that there because I was reading an article about, I don't know in what areas Peppa Pig specifically is paywalled, but Amazon has been unpaywalling a ton of their kids' content
Starting point is 00:20:16 on Prime, so you can watch it. But when I saw this photo, I mean, I knew what Peppa Pig was, but I never took the time to look, but it looks like a dick with two urethras yeah or or two p-holes like the tiger king himself oh yeah he's got to put a padlock i'm glad we have time to really think these things through now yeah these are deep deep corned.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And again, I realized too, as soon as I put that thing in the doc, I was like, I'm sure Jack has seen this in any adult who's drawn graffiti penises before. I was like, dude, this pig's face a dick. Yeah, my only question has ever been whether it was intentional, like whether they knew they were appealing
Starting point is 00:21:03 to some weird unconscious. Oh, they knew. Oh, they knew, Jack. You gotta think they knew they were appealing to some weird like oh they knew oh they knew jack you gotta think they did right it's weird anyway look at peppa pig's face and profile people it's it's upsetting uh finally what is there a myth uh that people want to bust oh i i want to bust the myth that it's never too late to teach your parents computers. Oh, wow. I've been, I've been, so my dad's quarantined by himself. And so we've been talking a lot and he, he has a laptop, but he's just like thinks that webcams hack your email or something.
Starting point is 00:21:39 So, but I, I was on the phone with him for two hours yesterday. We figured out how to Google Hangouts. We did it. And then I sent him a list of podcasts I recommend to him, and he started listening to one. Oh, my goodness. I know, which is, like, huge for him. So, yeah, he started listening to,
Starting point is 00:22:03 if you're looking for a podcast to send to your 60-year-old father. My ear and Mensa, it is. Yeah. It was, I was like, there's this thing called the Bechtel cast. No, it was,
Starting point is 00:22:09 um, what is it called? It's called rhinestones or cocaine and rhinestones. It's a really good podcast about like old timey country stars. And it's like, I don't know. It's good. I was like,
Starting point is 00:22:22 dad, you're going to like this. And he's like, I listened to a few episodes and it's just like radio. I'm like, Dad, you're going to like this. And he's like, I listened to a few episodes, and it's just like radio. I'm like, yep. That's kind of the point. That's how I pay my rent, Poppy. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Did you see, Jamie, that you got written up in like a Danish newspaper website or some shit? Yeah, yeah. I got an email from the guy who wrote that story. I mean, we had like, yeah, he was like, hey, just so you know, we're writing a review in this Danish paper and hope you're good. And then we talked about our different quarantines for a while. That was cool. I translated it. I think I just clicked Google Translate.
Starting point is 00:22:58 It seemed really nice. Okay, good. I'm glad it wasn't like, yeah, this woman doesn't have respect for Mensa. She's clearly idiot. I will say this is a really bad time to have to read mean comments about yourself on the internet. It's fucking brutal, man. I have to like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I always need to realign my relationship with the internet. But oh baby, to be called a dog face feminist when you're trapped in your house oh oh boy does not feel good just be just be you're lucky you weren't called a dog face pony soldier there right that's the one thing we all have to thank ourselves thank we all got to unite against 100 dog dog face pony soldiers uh all right guys let's take a quick break we'll be right back when you think of mexican culture you think of avocado mariachi delicious cuisine and of course it doesn't get more mexican than this lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment.
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Starting point is 00:26:44 we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guest you could possibly ask for. People like Matt Bomer. Thank you for that introduction. I'm going to slip you a couple of 20s under the table for that. Emma Roberts. When it came into my email inbox, I was like, okay, I know I'm going to love this so much
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Starting point is 00:28:00 yeah he can't he like to save his fucking worthless life he can't stop fucking up i was like this is the one good corona news a true villain gets it and then they're like and he exposed other prisoners you're like well fuck that i guess so but also i mean i'm sure it had to have come from outside you know in so whatever whatever how so many people are getting fucked up from that shit because i don't know how many cases are at rikers they're worried about an outbreak at rikers aren't they yeah yeah i don't know how and most friends might find out since that matter we might find out since new york is the only place that is actually testing it seems like right california over the weekend uh was basically like, we give up on testing.
Starting point is 00:28:45 We're just going to test healthcare workers now because we're not going to contain it. So it doesn't matter. It's just a very nihilistic statement. But that's sort of the kind of brutal truth health officials are having to approach this with it's like we can't blow smoke up our own asses anymore and act like we're containing it like we're past that and it's a waste of resources to do that it seems like to now it's like unless it's
Starting point is 00:29:15 going to fundamentally change the care uh for the like patient then there's really no point but i don't know like in la in general like a lot of people i don't know if that was a good thing when they announced that it's like i don't know we're past containment but please shelter in place because people were fucking out that feels contradictory yeah i feel like you can't really like as a public official you can't really back down on or say anything that even remotely contradicts uh shelter in place because people want to leave of course they do like yeah right i don't know yeah i mean there's a way i'm sure to like express sort of what the situation is but i think at the same time that's just what it is but i think people from that point i think
Starting point is 00:29:56 it's a combination of ignorance and denial uh in terms of like what i was reading and seeing like i took a drive up pch cause I just wanted to like look at the ocean and then like maybe find a spot where like nobody was just to like kind of get out for a second. But when I drove by the beaches, people were out on the beach. Like even though, you know, some could argue there was a bit of space, but the crowds are so large. Like it wasn't, it wasn't, there may have been six feet, but it just did not look good if you're playing the strict mathematics of it. Um, and even like Runyon was was there was like a ton of people there i was i like i thought about maybe going to the farmer's market to try and like you know uh uh patronize like local businesses
Starting point is 00:30:35 and stuff and when i just drove by and like read tweets it was like a zoo yeah you can't people yeah unbelievable i i uh stopped by the office last sunday and yeah like the farmer's market was it was there was a bajillion people there and it's it's frustrating because it's like i i i feel like i've gotten some mixed info on like some experts say you shouldn't take your dog on a walk and just let them like piss and crap in the backyard you can go on a walk some people say you shouldn't go on a walk and just let them like piss and crap in the backyard you can go on a walk some people say you shouldn't go on a walk and it's like there is definitely conflicting information out there but to i mean outside of like going on a walk or a run in like a quiet neighborhood area that like going to like runyon canyon and like going to a farmer like it's like that's just feels like common sense
Starting point is 00:31:27 like of course you can't do that right now yeah and I guess but you can't I I get it too because like everyone's in their houses everyone's starting to get sure crazy I think for me it got like really bad over the weekend just sort of like realizing okay like I'm gonna have to really hunker down for this now like and this is my is my life now. But I think by going out, it helps people deal a little bit with this idea of like, well, it can't be that bad. Like, I can still get out other people are out like life still going on. And I understand from a very humanist, like from a human psychological standpoint, like, why someone would be, you know, moved to do that. But at the same time, when you look at the transmission rates and things like that, and what we're trying to do, we have to think a little bit more narrowly about it.
Starting point is 00:32:12 While we're on the subject of just depressing shit and what we all have to do. because I'll keep doing this until the story seems to be fully picked up and soaking in that this is all the Trump administration's fault based on their failed response, the fact that they blocked testing either actively or passively rather than encouraged it and did everything and showed leadership in order to get it out. And if we had comprehensive testing, we wouldn't all have to be locked up in our houses. But we do have to be locked up in our
Starting point is 00:32:51 houses. So it sucks, but that's what it is and that's whose fault it is. The Senate is trying to put together a stimulus bill to keep the economy from going into a depression and stay in a nice, horrible recession area. Recess. Let's call it recess. Economic recess. Speaking of a show that would be great to rewatch during quarantine, Recess. Y'all ever watch Recess? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I mean, I know about it. It was an animated show right oh it's it's the best they got like full-on socialism episodes it's wild anyways there you go reset i watched parks and rec to get away from the reality for a little bit and the episode that came on like after the first one i watched when does he got the flu like a flu epidemic yeah i thought you were gonna say the the episodes that are like isn't joe biden cool and you're like well this one didn't hold up very well yeah yeah yeah i guess there's a lot of reasons i shouldn't go to that show about local politics to escape uh but uh yeah so senate republicans But yeah, so Senate Republicans are trying to put together a But it's, I don't know. It seems like the Republicans are going to win that PR battle
Starting point is 00:34:30 because they're just going to be like, well, they're being obstructionist. Well, yeah, we'll see. I mean, like, you know, all like you're saying, like every crisis we've had in this country is either restrict our rights or completely redistribute wealth to the top or both. And we're luckily we're in a fucking both situation right now with the, you know, the Republicans. I mean, the Democrats are also working with Mnuchin and the Treasury to try and figure
Starting point is 00:34:55 out what a like actual humane policy is going to be, because the Republican version is, hey, can you give us like a 500 billion dollar pot to just distribute money out of but we're not going to tell you how that money's going or what the restrictions are on that for six months we just want a blank check so we can just hook up any ceo donor we have with a little bit of cash so they can do whatever the fuck they want democrats are like that's completely fucked up we're not going to give you 500 billion dollars just to do whatever you want without A, knowing who the money's going to, B, how they were spending their money before this, C, how they're going to spend their money with this, D, what they're going to do with their employees. Can they guarantee them work? Can they guarantee them benefits? Are there strings
Starting point is 00:35:38 attached? So they're trying very hard to make this shit right, and I think they really do need to hold out because this is going to be, again, just taking more money just to give handouts to the wealthy is absolutely fucking unacceptable. You think it's bad now? Wait till you see what the economy looks like when we have no fucking resources to help people. And they're just counting on the wealthy to let the money trickle on down, give out.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Which has only worked out well in the past. Yeah, they're so good at that. And in the meantime, Rand Paul's ass has coronavirus. Yeah, I know. The guy voting against it. He's voting against it because it wasn't right wing enough. He wrote, I mean. Dude, he's just, yeah, because it's a hoax.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Yeah, it's a hoax yeah it's a hoax but also he has it and now he's quarantined there i have the hoax it i'm still kind of shocked that there isn't like completely remote congress right now it's just like 90 of people in congress are you know textbook at risk for this and it's just like it's people are gonna kill themselves trying to pretend that this is not a problem i mean yeah we're doing we're we're doing a pretty good job of nominating ourselves as a nation for the largest darwin award of all time right now yeah yeah the um that's kind of a uh i called it the vanessa hudgensgens kind of narrative online, but I feel like it actually has more to do with the big banks
Starting point is 00:37:10 and really wealthy billionaires. But the idea of like, well, some people are going to die, but that's inevitable. We got to go back to work. I'm starting to hear that more and more. Lloyd Blankfein, who was the CEO of Goldman Sachs during the first financial crisis. Of course, that's the C of course,
Starting point is 00:37:30 that's his name. Yeah. That blank check. If you, you may know him from when he started panicking and saying that he would, you know, that Russia and Putin wanted you to vote for Bernie and just freaking out. Uh,
Starting point is 00:37:49 he is saying, uh, he tweeted, uh, yesterday, extreme measures to flatten the virus quote curve is sensible for a time to stretch out the strand on health infrastructure, but crushing the economy jobs and morale is also a health
Starting point is 00:38:05 issue and beyond. Within a very few weeks, let those with a lower risk to the disease return to work. Within a very few weeks. A very few weeks. Please allow the workers to go back so I may exploit their labor so I can continue to generate my money, but don't ask me for shit. Ugh, gross. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:27 But that feels like the people who get to decide when it's time to go back are going to be rich people whose lives are not on the line. Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. Who are getting tested without symptoms while people who need testing can't get access with... symptoms while people who need testing can't get access with you know there there's been uh i mean i feel like we at this point uh we know pretty well that it's going to be way easier for rich people to get tested there's been a number of like celebrities that have gotten diagnosed or
Starting point is 00:38:59 gotten like diagnosed with diagnosed is that i don't know they have yeah they have covid 19 and they were able to get a test without any symptoms and there's been more in-depth reporting to that effect in the past day or so where i mean it is like kind of not surprising that celebrities can pay a lot of extra money and then get increased access to testing but just to get it more in in the weeds on it uh they're they're called i mean there's private physicians and concierge doctors uh the la times is reporting that offer tests to their patient at a price um and even the doctors themselves are like yeah there's no way this should be a thing uh one doctor said quote this represents a massive failure of the federal government of the
Starting point is 00:39:45 health care system unquote and then it's just kind of like but what can you do like hey they're willing to pay and i'm willing to take their money so there's a there's a beverly hills doctor named dr david nazarian who uh is basically just servicing celebs across Beverly Hills. He limits his clientele to, quote, influential people, A-list celebrities, and CEOs, and has a yearly membership fee that starts at $5,500, goes up to $10,000. And so this is how people are getting tested, is they're in these freaky elite clubs of doctors
Starting point is 00:40:22 that are almost admittedly like kind of hoarding covet 19 tests that uh you know i don't think they have any right to do and that's why the bachelor knows he has covet 19 and uh you don't anna was sending around a thing in our thread of like uh uh diagnoses or like confirmed cases of coronavirus like in part by like part of the city and it was interesting because you're like brentwood had a lot and i was like interesting like because that's yeah and i'm like i was like looking around i was like huh i mean not that it was consistent because there are other areas that weren't necessarily affluent areas that had like larger numbers but in like when i was like thinking of the geography of the city and like right there
Starting point is 00:41:04 and just sort of like you know brent was there beverly hills is next to it santa monica is next to that and like that cluster was interesting to see but probably because they're just able to get the shit tested yeah but i mean that's a really great metaphor for how the overall how america works overall is the system breaks down it It's failing people. It's possibly by design failing people, failing the general public. And then rich people are able to pay their way into emergency care, basically. Everyone else, it's just left up to the sorting hat of whatever doctors decide. Right. And then then again with all the things that you know please not that i'm sure if you have relatives who are so far gone in terms of like
Starting point is 00:41:51 the right echo chamber on the right but like what is happening with this stimulus bill it's very clear republicans want to steal whatever the fuck they still can out of these public coffers to enrich themselves in a very small number of people while the rest of us suffer. And if we're not able to get a hold on that, the brakes are going to fully come the fuck off. And it's going to look really bad when we're looking at people like these CEOs who are like, yeah, man, I had to lay off a ton of people. I got all this money. My job's still afloat. You're still paying the same amount of money for the services I have. I'm doing it with less people. I'm not helping the community by injecting
Starting point is 00:42:32 any money into a local economy. Meanwhile, we're still fucking stuck here holding the bag without an ability to test or any semblance of an actual decent response from the federal government. of an actual decent response from the federal government. And I think there's also just generally a failing on the media's behalf. What Miles just said is kind of the underlying, that should be the main kind of takeaway from this crisis so far. And you don't hear that fucking anywhere on cable news. You don't see it anywhere in New York Times. You don't like people aren't like they talk around it, but it's they're too insulated.
Starting point is 00:43:12 They're so vague. They say shit like, oh, the Democrats oppose a slush fund where Republicans will be able to distribute money from without knowing where it's happening. No, that's I mean, yes, that's one way to describe it. They're also saying, here's the amount of money, right, we have, this gigantic pie that we have that's supposed to nourish the entire economy. We want to take a majority of that and give that to a tiny sliver of the economy and people. And the rest of it, y'all can knife fight over.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Because that's just how the system's set up. Because with money and politics, and especially with how some of these people on the rest of it y'all can knife fight over because that's just how the system's set up because with money and politics and especially with how some of these people on the right and the left let's be real like there's just as many democrats who are willing to vote for the budgets that these people were putting forward prior to this but the mentality is that on both sides where there are rich people who give you money so you can get into office when you get there you are there you are their fighter in the arena of legislation. You do what is best for those people who hooked you up with money and whatever is left for the people, you do that. And what is happening now is people need to really pay attention of how the government is prioritizing companies over human beings, over
Starting point is 00:44:21 people who are going to work every day now, people who have lost work and are struggling to meet their bills. They are saying, fuck you. I want to give all of the money to these rich people who do not fucking need it because I don't want to disrupt the stock market, which is the way they play games. But unfortunately, a lot of our ability to stay afloat and things like that are tied to the stock market. But that's the way they can hold the knife to us too. It's like, well, if I let this shit go, that's going to hurt all y'all too. So maybe we need to stabilize the stock market.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Yeah. In the meantime, the only thing I've been able to take comfort in is the increased presence of mutual aid funds throughout all of this. Because it's just like, it's so clear that the majority of the government has no vested interest in protecting their people until it's the last. I mean, they just don't care. And I've found it very heartening to just see at least people standing up for each other. And again, it's like putting the onus on the people who are suffering, which is horrible. But it like there's a lot of people that are like rising to the occasion and saying like, yeah, I'm not going to like wait for the government to give a shit about me because there's only been evidence to the contrary. I help the people around me and how can you know because right now that's like the only thing that has been I don't know making me feel even remotely positive about where we're at is like our ability to help each other out even though it should that's not where the responsibility should fall but because it is uh I'm glad that it's it's been nice to see people have each other's back like
Starting point is 00:46:04 whether that's financially or emotionally supporting or whatever it is. It's just, but yeah, just to like kind of put it back in this perspective, right? Like, you know, the government was trying to,
Starting point is 00:46:14 you know, use their powers to get other companies to begin manufacturing like vital goods or things that we need to fight the virus. And, you know, there was there's reluctance on trump's side because the chamber of fucking commerce and other lobbyists were like i don't know it's a lot of red tape to do all this stuff for us to kind of do all like to help out with these supplies the the business sector is dragging their feet because they don't they're worried
Starting point is 00:46:42 about the costs so think of it like this a few wealthy people groan and somehow we're not doing the right thing to create vital medical supplies or distributing vital medical supplies because a small number let's call it 40 people groaned to the president meanwhile there are millions of us who are affected by this and we are screaming at the top of our lungs but it's not heard because the way shit is set up is that only those 40 people you got to be high enough in the sky for them to hear you we are down here screaming and they don't give a fuck right um all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre.
Starting point is 00:47:38 It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network
Starting point is 00:48:24 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all, and we are coming along for the ride. Woohoo! That would be me, Devin Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of... Drumroll, please. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:48:49 The Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras. Yes. Each week, cast members will be joining us to spill all of the tea on the relentless challenges, heartbreaking eliminations, and of course, all the juicy drama. And let's not forget about the hookups. Anyway, regardless of what era you're rooting for at home, everyone is welcome here on MTV's official challenge podcast. So join us every week as we break down episodes
Starting point is 00:49:14 of the Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras. Listen to MTV's official challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi. On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guest
Starting point is 00:49:31 you could possibly ask for. People like Matt Bomer. Thank you for that introduction. I'm going to slip you a couple 20s under the table for that. Emma Roberts. When it came into my email inbox, I was like, okay, I know I'm going to love this so much that I don't even want to read it. Because if I can't be in it, I'm going to be bummed.
Starting point is 00:49:48 And Colin Jost. You know, your wife was the first guest on Table for Two. It's come full circle. As long as I do better than her, I'm happy. Table for Two is a bit different from other interview shows. We sit down at a great restaurant for a meal, maybe a glass of rosé, and the stories start flowing. Our second season is airing right now, so you can catch up on our conversations that are
Starting point is 00:50:12 intimate, surprising, and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture.
Starting point is 00:50:46 I just don't believe they exist. I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back and this is the section where we talk about what we're using to distract us from all the awful shit that we just talked about okay so i know that we've we've been dunking on celebs a lot i agree they're the worst but right now they're really kind of all we got in terms of funny things that are happening uh my buddy kevin porter who um is the co-host of the good christian fun podcast former co-host of gilmore guys made an excellent thread over the weekend saying that he would give $2 to the LA Food Bank for every unhinged story about Ellen DeGeneres behind the scenes they could find.
Starting point is 00:52:13 And he ended up having to donate $600. So there were just so many. I think that, I mean, shouts out to dakota johnson for like reminding the people that ellen degeneres is high key a monster uh but here i just wanted to share some of my favorites from the thread i like lost two hours of my life to this and i couldn't be happier so here are some responses that i loved uh okay uh nick weiger icon says uh friend was a pa on her show and got their first staff writer job and put in notice instead of congrats was told to give their christmas gift back oh my gosh um karen kilgariff was her head writer for five years until the writer's strike
Starting point is 00:53:00 when karen wouldn't cross the picket line she was fired and Ellen never spoke to her again here's here's a great one this was back in the day when she was sporting her Carson era mullet we were in gym and doing crunches as we would commonly do to start the class Ellen riffed a loud fart and tried to blame it on me just like the most chaotic evil possible she has a sensitive nose so everyone has to chew gum from a bowl outside her office before talking to her and if she thinks you smell that day you have to go home and shower um oh my god it's just there's so there's so there's the way that she treats wait staff is nightmare uh her staff members
Starting point is 00:53:46 are not allowed to be in the same room as her uh i love it i love it you know that's it's i expect nothing less from from ellen degeneres it's also funny to see in that thread too where people are like caping for her and like you know why don't you talk about some of the good things she's done and it's like yeah yeah yeah we get that like that's all out there that's the public facing part of it that's the part she wants you to know or wants you to think is there but it's funny but i get it too i think people if depending on how close you are to the actual production you know it's easier for i think especially for people in la or near like industry to see like, oh, yeah, that's a fucked up thing that I can see 100% happening in this town.
Starting point is 00:54:28 And other people are like, oh, she couldn't be that bad. Ellen is also one of those celebrities that historically just has such a... What is it like with celebrities that adopt pets and then the pets disappear? Like that is a thing. That was another story in this thread like ellen supposed animal lover has a bad habit of adopting really cute kittens and puppies but as they get older she gets tired of them and forces other people to adopt them uh lena dunham has had some disappearing dogs julianne huff has had some disappearing dogs celebrities i't know, but they're making me laugh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I mean, what better way to entertain yourself while also getting an unavoidable snapshot of the system that we're talking about in the other section? Hearing Ellen that she gets a cat and when it gets a little too old out of the cute phase, she just gets rid of it. Reminds, I think, Jack and I a lot of one Joe Exotic.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Joe Exotica. Holy shit, you guys. Tiger King on Netflix. We should give you guys some time to get caught up, but please do so so we can talk in detail about this. The characters are mind-boggling. There's a guy who was arrested for being, I think, Florida's largest cocaine dealer ever,
Starting point is 00:55:57 and he sold drugs to support his exotic animal habit. That Jim says that literally. He runs a super secretive private zoo, use smuggling methods. He learned from drugs to smuggle the animals. He's the sixth most interesting character. They just use him as a
Starting point is 00:56:17 quick anecdote. I would love to run down the characters, but even doing that, it takes away from the experience of watching it because it's like it's like you're looking at a rotten onion with like a bunch of fireworks shooting out of it and you're like i think i know what this is it's a fucking weird ass onion with fires shooting out of it and then you start peeling it away and you're like oh my god what the fuck is inside of this thing the outside it was like enough to get me in but now i'm like
Starting point is 00:56:45 blinded by the truth within this thing it's unbelievable it's so entertaining it's like a combination of like a christopher guest doc like mockumentary and true crime and the jinx yeah yeah it's fucking all over the place yes yeah you can't just tell me something's as good as the jinx i don't take that lightly okay the jinx was a christopher guest mockumentary yeah that's cool yeah it's i mean there's like one episode where they just unleash this amazing mystery that you're like wait what the fuck yeah and then like one episode is like yeah one of the one episode it must be a dateline episode too. Like one of the episodes just plays out like they, you know, there's like the sort of momentum of the narrative arc of the actual series.
Starting point is 00:57:31 But then at one point they're like, we really need to take this whole episode to talk about this one person's life really quick, just so you can understand what the grumblings are about this person. And when you watch, you're like, I uh but it's it's also interesting my my wife and i were talking about like how like these people would be fortune 500 ceos or like the president or you know dangerous cult leader well i guess they are kind of cult leaders, you find out. But if they were born in a different situation, they're incredibly intelligent.
Starting point is 00:58:11 They're incredibly just great at manipulating people, charismatic. Great at identifying people who can be manipulated as well. Yes. Like true predators. Yeah, they're unbelievable. Like true predators. Yeah. They're
Starting point is 00:58:25 unbelievable. Good band name. True predators. True predators. Give me two days. I'll be ready. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not even all the way through it. I don't know if it ends with... The Jinx probably had the best ending of any
Starting point is 00:58:41 true crime documentary series of all time. And now we're going to have to wait until coronavirus is blown over to find out if Robert Durst, I can't be prosecuted for a crime if I was high on meth argument is going to hold up in court. Right. A lot of people are waiting to see how that goes. Could set a lot of precedents down the road. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:00 I feel like it might set a precedent for the people in tiger king because there's that's another thing it has in common is yeah okay so we should just on meth just describe very generally if you don't even know what tiger king is it's a netflix documentary about this beef that goes on between people who privately own tigers and show them and breed them and like have petting zoos and this other side of the spectrum, which is namely one woman who wants to rescue them. But the question begs, are this,
Starting point is 00:59:31 is this really the same coin? Is this even two sides of the same coin? Is it the same side of one coin? Yeah, it's really, yes, it's like, it's got something for everyone.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Animal lovers, comedy lovers, true crime lovers. If you like bad country music and cringeworthy music videos, it's all there. I'm in. All right, great. What's going on with Taylor Swift? I know nothing about this.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Well, I mean, God forbid. I'm not a huge fan of hers. But I do think some unrelated Corona celeb news I stumbled across this weekend was that there was, five million years ago, there was that line in a Kanye West song where he says he made Taylor Swift famous. And when she demanded to be excluded from the narrative, he leaked a video or he and Kim Kardashian leaked a video with her, quote unquote, approving it on the phone. Five million years later, the full video leaked. And it turned out that he didn't tell her the whole line he was going to do and that Taylor Swift, for the first time in a long time, was in the right.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Great. I love it. Justice. Everyone's quarantined. But it turns out Taylor swift was right about something uh i mean it doesn't matter because they're all just like i mean kanye west and taylor swift are both the just like celebrities so entrenched in their own like self-mythologizing that almost anything related to either of them doesn't matter to me uh yeah i mean kanye wow i bless what a heel turn from afar explain the the what was the version of this that we had come to believe and then what what's the okay
Starting point is 01:01:14 because you know he says to all my south side dad know me best i feel like me and taylor might still have sex wow i made that bitch famous that line you know that line so then they they people were the story was that taylor had no idea that that was gonna happen and then they put it kim like uh jamie was saying kim and kanye had a video that apparently absolved them of anything because they're like here it is evidence we told her and she knew so i don't know what the big deal is but then it was like when the full version came out it seems like it was a pretty heavily edited receipts video where Kanye didn't tell her the whole line
Starting point is 01:01:49 he didn't say I made that bitch famous he didn't say all this other stuff and then you hear Taylor Swift pushing back and not fully approving it on that call so you know that's a celeb video who gives a fuck
Starting point is 01:02:07 but also it made me think about something else for a minute dunk on Kanye as many times as possible please her response is also like how I would respond if Kanye West called me and was like hey can I put this thing in there like she seems a little star
Starting point is 01:02:23 struck I mean she's obviously not star struck she's a little starstruck. I mean, she's obviously not starstruck. She's a big celebrity who has an enormous ego. But she's like, that's not mean. That's how I would kind of react. It's like her bully of a decade is calling her up. It's just such a weird situation in the first place that I don't know how I would react in that situation. She signed off on it.
Starting point is 01:02:43 You're like, hey, I want to apologize to you in the form of further deepening our problem. Right, right. I kind of, I mean, far be it for me to empathize with Taylor Swift, but I kind of felt for her on this one, where she just kind of gave this long, meandering answer. She's like, oh, well, did you say that you made me famous? Well, what am I going to do about it?
Starting point is 01:03:03 It's just kind of like whatever at this point. But, I mean, you got to tell the story the way it happened to you and the way you experienced it like honestly you didn't know who i was it didn't matter if i sold seven million of that album before you said that which is what happened you didn't know who i was it's fine but um yeah can't wait to hear the song is her quote so you're just like oh my god this girl's like having a meltdown i just should have just told that guy to fuck off. Watching the full video will really make you feel for Taylor Swift because she's just spiraling. I don't have enough empathy right now to send to her, but in sympathy, but I want her to do well.
Starting point is 01:03:38 It's a good payoff on a celebrity story that's been developing for what, four years now or something ridiculous. Yeah, seriously, yeah. So, you know, that's been developing for what four years now or something ridiculous. Yeah seriously yeah. That's the conclusion. The reverberations especially after the video where people like Kim's a fucking snake and all this. I know. Too much. We need to stop calling women snakes on the internet. And the solution
Starting point is 01:03:58 to one woman being absolved of being a quote unquote internet snake can't be just a different woman is an internet snake. It's too easy. What if we call, what if we refer to women as snacks? I think that that's a different kind of sexist. Snack flag.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Snack flag. Snack flag. I was thinking of the Gadsden flag. All right, bad joke, Anne. We have too much distance. Nothing's connecting. We're going to raise your snack flag? Now more than ever,
Starting point is 01:04:30 have your snack flag waving outside your house i got not the gadsden flag one that just says snack flag so people know what time it is we got we got a flagpole at the house and i took a bunch of old like 90s seasonal flags from my parents house the last time i was home and so we've just been switching them out. We had sunflowers out. We had a little back-to-school bookworm flying out the house the other day. We got Mickey Mouse with a hat on. We got all kinds of flags. Do you have the Christian flag? No, we have a bunch of America ones
Starting point is 01:04:57 that I'm like, this isn't, not right now. Oh, man. There was somebody who lived by me who would fly the Christian flag out the house. What is the Christian flag? It's like white, purple, and red. And it's similar to our American flag, but where the stars are, it's solid with a cross. What?
Starting point is 01:05:14 The cross right there. No. Hell yeah. Hey, man. We used to have to pledge allegiance to that shit every morning. Wait, the Christian flag? Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Oh, my goodness. Yeah, it was about pledging allegiance to the savior for whose kingdom it stands. One savior. It's like, oh, the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:05:33 It was like, I used to remember it, but that's all I can remember. Yikes. In the realm of celebrities making us cringe, making us forget reality for a second, I do want to talk
Starting point is 01:05:46 about Rita Wilson rapping Hip Hop Hooray which people seem to be Did you not see it? No, I don't have time for that anymore. What happened? She was rapping? She was rapping. Chet got to her.
Starting point is 01:06:02 It's very Chet-esque because she has like a very like insulting like faux accent it's very racist yeah she's doing a racist accent she's like burning up on coronavirus you're just like
Starting point is 01:06:17 what do we do with this like I just that was a story where I'm like nope I'm stumped I don't know I mean I saw people talking about I saw Rita Wilson story where I'm like, no, I'm stumped. I don't know. I mean, I saw people talking about, I saw Rita Wilson rap, but I'm like, I'm honestly now out of self-preservation. I'm like, nah, don't got time for that. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Are people, like, I haven't really paid much attention to this other than getting it sent to our text thread and watching it and then deciding never to speak of it again until this call. But are people into it? Are other people pointing out how kind of racist? I think it's like with anything, clueless people are into it and they're like, what a cutie pie being racist during her coronavirus quarantine.
Starting point is 01:07:07 And then like other people are like, fuck this, but hope she gets well. I don't know. No one. I mean, it's just kind of one of those stories where you're like, I don't fucking know. I can't deal with this right now. I don't have the brain space to evaluate or re-evaluate my feelings on rita wilson right now yeah i used to have like the patience to like watch like white people you know fucking rap and be like isn't that cool that i did like the black people thing but now i'm like
Starting point is 01:07:35 yo bro my i'm like uh please please go i need to watch tiger king please let me be. Let me be with Joe Exotic. Overcooked 2 is a video game. Oh my God. For the Switch, bro. Yes, this is what I've been talking about. What about the Switch? We were going to get it. Okay. Yo, I've been playing it on PlayStation Network.
Starting point is 01:07:54 This fucking game. Is it good? Oh, let me tell you. If you, look, first of all, I've been playing this with my boy Ty over the internet. And it's basically a game, very simple. You're in a kitchen with one other chef or maybe many multiple chefs. But it's very simple.
Starting point is 01:08:15 You'll be making maybe one recipe, which is spaghetti. And in that, one chef has to grab a pile of pasta, boil it. Another person has to grab tomatoes and chop it up and then put in a saute pan. And then when those things are done, you combine them in a plate and then take it to the fucking window to send it out to like the restaurant. But the way it works, it's just like a very fun game because everyone has to be coordinated and you have to communicate. And it's one of those things where it takes up so much of your fucking attention because to i love like process anything i like to cook also and i like to be like i don't know like i love efficiency so to play this game well like you will start getting frustrated with whoever you're
Starting point is 01:08:56 playing with because they're not thinking proactively as as much as you are and you're like hey idiot i needed that fucking pasta three minutes ago and like because you gotta also wash dishes there's so much shit to keep track of it's so fucking fun i cannot suggest it enough it's like and it's so simple it's not like a shooter or anything it's just like one button to grab something one button to put it down another button to chop then you put it's just great and then you watch all the orders come in like a real restaurant so much credit to line cooks out there and people who work back of house at restaurants. This shit is an absolute ballet dance. But as a game, I thought my friend was joking.
Starting point is 01:09:34 He was like, you're going to like it. I'm fucking gone. I'm gone off this shit right now. Yeah, me too. Isaac and I were almost going to. Shut the fuck up. Isaac and I were almost Shut the fuck up He keeps
Starting point is 01:09:49 Pretending he's a gamer and he likes Nintendo Switch this has been his new like Quarantine I don't know if you knew that about me But I'm more of a Switch guy If you put that in a kinky sense that becomes a very That becomes a very different statement you're making Ow
Starting point is 01:10:04 Jack O'Brien known Switch Known Switch he says that becomes a very that becomes a very different statement you're making oh uh jack o'brien known switch uh yeah the i i don't know i'm trying i'm trying a game we were gonna get uh we were gonna get that game and then isaac used to be a line cook and he's like this is a fucking game to you and i was like all right we'll get a different game. Oh, no. This ain't a fucking game. And so we got something called Unraveled 2, and I'm bad at it. Oh, Unraveled, man. Well, you know, Rocket League. I feel like Rocket League is another one that's easy for people to get into.
Starting point is 01:10:36 You know what I mean? That's DJ Daniel's favorite thing. He's furiously waving his arms like a Muppet in this Google Hangout right now. And, yeah, man, man i telling you overcooked i get it you know he was he was serving on the front lines but the fucking game do you i was laughing just i like the idea that he just looked at that and he's like immediately it's just like this is unacceptable don't reduce my experience to some fucking game. With some goofy characters?
Starting point is 01:11:10 Is this how I'm fucking seen in the world? I'm a fucking rat? I'm a rat? Chopping tomatoes? We're all on day 10 and 11. I'll see if I can wear him down on it. All right, guys. Well, that's
Starting point is 01:11:24 been episode where can people find you episode yes indeed it's been episode uh you can find me on twitter at uh jamie loftus help instagram at jamie christ superstar on wednesday i'm doing a live stream of a show i was working on prior to the plague uh It's like a 70s soap opera. I'm going to be live streaming from the Lyric Hyperion account because it's a benefit to help support their workers while the theater's closed. So if you're around at 8 p.m. Pacific on Wednesday night,
Starting point is 01:11:59 that's what I'll be doing then. And then Bechtelcast is still happening. We're recording with Barry Sonnenfeld later. So there you go. Oh, I can't wait. Yeah. That's amazing. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:12:13 Yeah, this was a vocalization of something I've been noticing in the way the press has been covering stuff. It's from at D. Sarkozova. Is it Dayana Sarkozova uh it's one of those tweets that says no one anything absolutely nobody nothing editors working on coronavirus coverage amid amid amid amid amid amid i mean the word amid is having a big ass moment because it's some avoidant language that editors use to be like, Joe Biden steals an election amid plague concerns.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Like, you're just shit. Amid just connects one cursed thought to another right now. Right, right. Miles, where can people find you? And what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of gray also playstation network miles of gray also my other podcast for 20 day fiance i got a new episode going up tomorrow wednesday so check that out on the latest episode of 90 day fiance where i get faded with sofia
Starting point is 01:13:18 alexandra talk shit about it um a show or no a show a show, a tweet that I like. One, it's from Blair, Blair Saki from last week, where she said, my heart goes out to men whom without sports are feeling their feelings for the first time instead of yelling
Starting point is 01:13:33 at the screen. Welcome, bitch. Here's a white wine. That's awesome. Some tweets I've been enjoying at Drew Toothpaste tweeted, anyone else getting the Looney Tunes effect
Starting point is 01:13:47 where you look at a billionaire and see steaming roasted chicken and you start licking your lips? Oh, that's great. And Parnanansharla tweeted, going to the grocery store now feels like going to town in Little House on the Prairie. If I am good, maybe Papa will let
Starting point is 01:14:06 me get an orange. Totally. Such a treat to just go to the grocery store. Going to town. It's like a thing. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily
Starting point is 01:14:21 Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what's it going to be? Let's do a song. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:14:42 I got to, dude, you know what someone needs to do Is put up the old MTV Party To Go albums Is that on YouTube yet? Oh what's that? Okay so Sit down young child Just like how I knew not of the Wild Thornberrys cartoon Let me tell you about a little CD series called MTV's Party To Go In which a DJ would basically pre-mix some of the best hits of the year
Starting point is 01:15:04 Into one CD, and you could just play that, and it would seamlessly mix. It was like a playlist that was mixed. They could just play, and people were like, ooh, what's this? Is there a DJ here? No, it was MTV's Party To Go. Okay. Now, a track I like is from a band called Nomo, and they're just dope.
Starting point is 01:15:21 They're from Michigan, big up Ann Arbor. They play really dope, Afro beat, sort of new jazz, all kinds of shit. They're just really fantastic on their instruments. This is from, I think, their first album, or one of the first albums I had heard from them called New Tones, and the track is also called New Tones, but it's spelled N-U-T-O-N-E-S by the band Nomo. This is just, again, just nice brass, live instruments.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Get your shoulders loose. Get your hips loose. Get your toes tapped. And get to this quarantine life. I see that the spelling is influenced by nu metal. Is the song also influenced by nu metal? You know, in a very roundabout way, I think we can all say that everything we do has been influenced by nu metal in some way. All culture at this point um everything is like the daily zeitgeist is a production of
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