The Daily Zeitgeist - Saint Ghislaine?! Marx’s Theory Of Bore-out 07.25.25

Episode Date: July 25, 2025

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Did you have that moment in school when they talked about the resurrection or the crucifixion and you go, dude, why didn't you just fight everybody if he has all these superpowers? I remember we had a discussion like that in my grade school because we're like, yo, couldn't he just like fuck everybody up? Not in like Sunday school in like, well, because I went in like- Well, cause I went to a Lutheran school. I went to a Lutheran school. Oh, that makes sense then. And I wasn't, I didn't, I'm not, my parents aren't religious.

So like, I'm learning all this shit in school. And I'm like, what? Dude, you guys just said he had all these like superpowers and they're like, how come he didn't stop that? Like, couldn't he just say no? There are these things called the Gnostic Gospels that were in the Bible for like when the Bible was first being written and then got edited out. And in those, Jesus has like

legit superpowers. Like one time when he's a kid, he just like kills somebody with the wave of a hand. Like fucking, you know, he's in Slytherin or something. And I think, yeah, he can do like shit. And I feel like they might have edited those out because otherwise it doesn't like make sense later when he can't, when he chooses not to fight back. You know what I mean? So they just keep his things more like magician-y, like as opposed to like, hey, you want some more fish? Yeah. Yeah. It's more, you'll need some more loaves of bread. It's like a fun party guy. More food and water based.

Yeah. His superpower is just like throwing sick parties. He brought a guy back from the dead. You know what I mean? They're like, yeah, that's true. Don't talk about that part too much. Well, and he did do that to himself. So he's like kind of, you know, keeps it.

He can't remember the teacher saying it's like, well, did he actually die if he was right? I'm like, I don't know dude. This doesn't sound believable. This guy has these powers He's gonna let them they're gonna let him fucking nail him up to get out of here That's the way he shows up to the disciples is like can't kill my ass thought they could Yeah, do it couldn't be boys back your boys back. Where are we going tonight? I'll bring the wine. Yo, where Mary Magdalene at?

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share of consciousness and it's Friday, July 25th, 2025. Yes, it's National Wine and Cheese Day, National Higher Veteran Day, National Hot Bud Sunday Day, National Merry-Go-Around Day, National Thread the Needle Day, National Get Gnarly Day, dude, Gnar, G-N-A-R, dag, National Talk in an Elevator? Go around a national thread the needle day national get gnarly day dude gnar Gna our dag a natural talk in an elevator. No, I don't do that man. Nobody wants to talk to you in an elevator And system administrator appreciation day. Thank you to all the people who are do system admin work admin them systems. Yeah Thank you. I'm first Sundays merry-go-rounds I hate hot hot fudge tastes like shit. It goes bad quickly. It gets gloppy.

Like its natural state is way too gloppy. Yeah, that's a very good point. I do prefer a Hershey's syrup sundae. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A hot fudge sundae. Like, yeah, basically 10 times out of 10. You're putting a thing that when it's not hot gets gloppy onto an ice based thing. I think that's so cold, yeah.

So cold it immediately glops it up. Yeah. Anyway, fuck Hot Fudge Sundays. Just merry-go-rounds in this house. Yeah, exactly. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka Epstein's World. Saw the footage of you leering at girls. You absolutely sent that creepy card

Convincing magas gonna be so hard a bridge too far You're in Epstein's world that one courtesy of the hacker less than zero on the discord And it less than X3 are mm-hmm He when he posted that I'm in and then. Like, yeah, no, I know. I know. We know you're a member of the Discord. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Cause who can snort it like Keith Nobody? Who can smoke it like Keith nobody Who can slam H all night long? Keith Richards, baby

Shout out to Sherry Boyd or Sherry Bird my bad I'll hit me up on Twitter with this wonderful Keith sweat tuned aka talking about Who can snort it like Keith Richards because obviously Ozzy couldn't hang Ozzy couldn't hang Come on who can snort it like Keith Richards because obviously Ozzy couldn't hang Ozzy couldn't hang come on who can snort it like Keith He's just not a greedy like the rest of exactly and you like this some cocaine not all Cocaine and I have money for good cocaine. You know what I mean? Here's a note try good cocaine. Yeah, maybe that's how that Kroger you know what I mean? Here's a note. Try good cocaine. Yeah. Maybe. See how that agrees with you.

See how that Kroger, you know what I mean? Yeah, that Krogh cane. You know what I mean? I hope a lot of people with addiction problems didn't read that book and be like, oh, okay. All right. It's junk. It's the junk that's the problem. Just writing it down in their little handbook.

Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by an adult film star, content creator, powerlifter, activist, who hosts the very fun podcast, First Thirst, where guests talk about their first pop culture crushes. Please welcome, Siri Doh! Siri! Hello! Welcome, welcome! I am welcome.

Yes, indeed. We're thrilled to have you here. Yeah. Thank you for having me. Oh, thank you for're thrilled to have you here. Yeah. Thank you for having me. Oh, thank you for joining us on this terrible, terrible podcast. It's great to have people of no time. Yeah, it's pretty terrible so far. Yeah, thank you. Thank you for being honest. We appreciate that. God, we just, we spend a lot of times talking about Jesus. It just comes up randomly.

I think it's so absurd to me. It's so absurd. And we both grew up on it. The concept of Jesus? Yeah, the story, Jesus, the comes up randomly. I think it's so absurd to me. It's like, and we both grew up on it. The story, uh, Jesus, the man, Jesus, the magician. It is. Yeah. I mean, it's the heroin addict. Yeah. That famous poster where the guy's shooting heroin, but it's Jesus's arm.

Oh yeah. Yeah. I bet he had like some Keith Richards level tolerance. He was like, just slam it in there real quick. He just can't hang. He hits like a joint once and he's a fucking mess. Are you mad at me? You guys fucking hate me like my dad.

You're like, oh shit. He's like a lot of people who really like to drink, but they take one hit and they're like, God, everybody's talking about me, right? Yeah. Siri, who was your first pop culture crush? Okay, I have a couple, but I like the one I like to throw out is it's really like the first memory I have of having a very strong, like attraction, like crush feeling as a as

a young and as a literal child. And it's I'm sorry, it's very, very hyper specific. So in the movie Hook, yes, starring Dustin Hoffman, yes, sure. and Robin Williams. There's a scene when Robin Williams, who plays Peter Panning, he's like Peter Pan,

but he left Neverland, so he actually did end up turning into it at all. Anyway, he goes back to Neverland. Grown ass Peter Pan. Yeah, grown ass Peter Pan played by Robin Williams. So hairy. So much hairier than I thought Peter Pan was going to grow up to be. Those knuckles. There's a scene where he like drops a ball into the water and he goes to like get it out

and he like leans over. He's in Neverland at this point or he's like I don't really remember exactly the context. It's earlier in the movie. He leans in to get this ball out of the water and instead of his adult self reflected back at him it's like Peter Pan like him when he was a kid as Peter Pan that's the reflection looking back at him and uh and that was the kid that played the Peter Pan reflection he shows up like one other point like in the movie but for some reason it was the reflection in the water scene that like was the one that got me um and I would just tape that we had. Because I would rewind it.

Just going back and forth over that scene. And it's like a five second, it's not even, it's like maybe two seconds shot of this kid. And I found out, like I talked about this on my podcast in one of the earlier episodes. And I found out in that conversation that the child in that scene is Dustin Hoffman's actual son, who's like in his 40s now.

Wow. But he's like 12 when who's like in his 40s now. Wow. He was like 12 when they filmed it in the early 90s. And yeah, just like five, six year old me was just like, absolutely had the hots for this, this little Peter Pan boy. Maxwell Jeffrey Hoffman. Wow. I did that to our Rocky IV tape home VHS cassette, because there was a part like during Apollo's, like the dance before

the thing where like a butt is shown very briefly and six year old me was going back and forth over that way too much. A butt. Wait, this guy's got dreadlocks now? Are you looking at Dustin Hoffman's son? Yeah, Maxwell Hoffman. Yeah, does he have dreadlocks now? Wow, no.

Hell yeah. Yeah, Maxwell Hoffman. Yeah, does he have dreadlocks now? Yeah, my guy's got dreadlocks. Wow, no. Hell yeah. Looks great. Just chilling. Are white people ever gonna like stop? Oh, this is from 2016. So maybe he probably learned. If he had them after 2020, I'd be like, bruh.

Yeah. I mean, even 2016, you should be knowing better, but okay. Hey, alright, Maxwell. The Yeah, I mean even 2016 you should be knowing better. But okay. Hey, all right Maxwell The question are white people ever gonna stop is such a good just broad historical question It's like it's like where someone was like fortunately LeBron's 30 this madness will soon be over And then for 10 years later, it's like, are white people ever going to stop?

I'm sure people have been saying that since the 1600s, far earlier. 1400s, yeah. Let's say 1492. We can probably say around there. That's right. Are they ever going to just fucking leave it alone? All right. Miles, I guess we need to hear your pop culture crush.

Your first. Oh, man. I was just thinking one of the first people I was really obsessed with was Jennifer Connelly in Rocketeer, the Rocketeer. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I never saw the Rocketeer as a kid. I could I don't know why that was like that was maybe because she's one of the most beautiful human beings in the history of earth maybe it could be and then after that it was and then then I had then I was like I've mentioned that before entire bank showed up on Fresh Prince I was a fucking I was gone yeah yeah I was fucking melted yeah those are good yeah yeah yeah yeah uh all right sir we're

gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment First we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We are gonna talk about the urge Right now that is happening to rehab the image of Ghislaine Maxwell. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm like Like fellow Yeah. Yeah. Like Jeffrey Epstein's like fellow child trafficker? Yes. Yes. Yes. Her. She might be a victim is what people are now saying.

In many ways. Out loud on right-wing news. Jesus Christ. Yep. So we'll talk about that. Big windup. We'll talk about whether the Democrats are going to fuck this up, how they might fuck it up.

We will talk about the new craze in worker alienation It's called It's called bore out And it's affecting many young people who hate their job for some reason So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about uh, there's a new pandemic movie the re aster movie This this one will not stick in my head. What is it? Eddington. Eddington. Eddington.

Yeah. Yeah. That movie's out. We're just going to talk about, I haven't seen Eddington. I read your jam, so I didn't love it. But just curious that there's not more pandemic content just writ large across the history of art. So we'll talk about that and what movies do kind of make sense when they bring it up and what movies have not.

All of that, plenty more. But first, Siri, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? My search history? Oh, God. I have to actually go look at it. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yep. No lying either. I don't ever look at that. I don't even know where to find that. So, okay. You sound like Pam Bondi at the DOJ with the FC. I don't even look at it anymore.

History. Oh, there we go. There's the show full history. Let's, okay. I mean, I've spent a lot of energy searching for recipes for sourdough pizza crust recently because I got a pizza oven for my birthday and an outdoor pizza oven. And I've lived in LA since September. And what I've learned living here is that there's not very good pizza in LA. And even when I find pizza that is acceptable, it's not the style that I like, which is sourdough crust. So now, yeah, I got my- Are you coming from New York? Where are you coming from? Louisville, Kentucky. Louisville?

Before I looked it that way. Okay, wow. There's a... Jack, you know a little bit about Louisville. There's a place called Pizza Lupo there that it... Like, I don't even have words to describe how good it is. It's so good. Really?

Yeah. If anyone listening to this or any of y'all ever find yourselves in Louisville, Kentucky, pay Pizza Lupo a visit. Huh. And in Louisville, Kentucky pay pizza Lupo visit. Hmm. And that's our Lupo and not Lopo. Lupo. Yeah.

Not like, cause I know that Louisville is Louisville. Their logo is like a wolf with pizza teats getting his pizza teats suckled. Oh, like Romulus and Remus. Oh, okay. Got it. I was like, I was curious. I'm like, we doing a Romulus Rem Remus. Oh, okay, got it. I was curious. I'm like, we doing a Romulus Remus pizza teat motif here? Yeah. Oh, the classic Romulus Remus pizza teat motif.

Pizza teat motif, exactly. Are the teats slices or full pie? They're slices. Okay, I was just trying to make sure I'm just going to visualize pointy and down. So what comes out of a pizza tea? Is it just sauce or is it like a whole like mixture of pizza that is somehow been liquefied? I feel like one dispenses hot honey and the other dispenses melted mozzarella.

Oh, I was thinking of like a sort of never ending pizza slice that every nipple you take it just regenerate just keep Oh like take Yeah, yeah, like it's a sketch Beautiful Wow, that's really fun. Actually, you know, I'm really into mythology. So I like to really take time sort of sort of storyboarding like what a like what a pizza teeth would be like. And then it's just like kind of growing in front of you. Exactly, exactly. Which like sounds like it would be difficult from a physics perspective, but you know what?

So is like just milk being made in there. Like that is wild. That's a very strange thing that happens. Wait, so where have you been in LA where you're like, bro, this pizza fuck sucks. That people have told you? Do do. Yeah.

So, well, just most of the pizza places that are just around and I live, I'm like, I'm in the Valley. So granted, you know, Valley not known for its like culinary advancements. Good Thai food. We got good Thai food in the Valley. There's plenty of amazing food. I am being, yeah, that's why I'm very specifically

calling out the lack of like good pizza It's like it's like it I will say I haven't really had pizza That's like horrendously disgusting but like it's just all of its like very middling and then the couple places that people recommended me that they're You well, okay If you're that bougie about it like try this place like everyone's telling me their favorite place and I go and try them and almost All of the ones that I get recommended, there's like good good, are on the east side, more like Highland Park, you know, so we're like in the history areas, which makes sense.

There's a lot of cool restaurants over there. And so I've tried pretty much all the ones I've been recommended and they have been better than like kind of the average accessible pizza in the valley, for sure. And they're good for what they are. But again, for me, it's not just about the pizza itself. It's like the specific style. Yeah, yeah. And it's really hard. Not a lot of places do it like wood fired in LA, which is surprising. I'm just like, but why? Yeah.

I was so hoping that when you were like, there's this one place in Louisville that it was going to be Papa John's. No, I do have a funny story about Papa John though. It's not even my story. I feel like everybody from Louisville does. Wait, about John Schnatter, the CEO? About John, yes. Yeah, yeah. Wait, what would he do? The Papa himself? So it's this, my partner who's like born and raised from Louisville told me this story.

This is all a legend. Because he knew one of the people that was involved in this incident apparently. But John Schnatter like owns this whole like little like neighborhood in the like rich area of Louisville. Like he just owns like all the land and like, so he's and he like lived there for a while. I don't know if he does anymore, but he used to ride his bicycle all around that area And so it was like the last day of school and these teenagers who had just you know like driving down the road I Think they had like literally last day ever of school like last day of 12th grade

And they were just goofing around and one of them was like fuck fuck this We're finally done and he like tossed a textbook out the window, but John Schnatter was like riding his bicycle In like like shit bagged off his bike by this Apparently he like was gonna press charges he eventually oh actually but he like Apparently he like was gonna press charges. He eventually oh actually but he like Wanted to and yeah, it was like threatening these teenagers because he thought he was like trying to say it was like a hate crime But it's like they didn't know that you were John Schnatter. Yeah Targeting you they just threw the book out. I just randomly you want a bicycle. He's like, oh what a nice day I don't like him and I don't like his pizza apparently a very suck it

I've heard not great things. Yeah, we'll leave it at that. Yeah, what is what's something Siri that you think is underrated? Okay, overrated cold pizza. I mean we're just talking about pizza. Anyway, so like right Okay, I just I hate cold pizza. I hate it a lot You can't equal be silly. Is it true? It's it's it's repulsive to you. Well, it's both that I choose to not eat it like I have no desire and also I'm pretty sure at this point I couldn't like if like it is disgusting enough to me as like a texture a temperature a flavor experience that if I were to take a bite of cold pizza, I would really have to fight vomiting as I swallow

it. It's so fucking funny. I would have to actively fight vomiting. I'm kind of with you. We've gotten so good at, like there's so many good options for reheating now with like air fryers or just like using a pan that like why why ever do cold pizza? Yeah.

I mean, I get into an argument about this quite often because so many people really like cold pizza, like they they're like, well, it's like a separate experience that stands alone to have it when it's cold. And I'm like, you know what? I respect. Sure. That you feel that way. Right. Right. right. You're allowed to have that feeling but respect I feel that you're mentally ill right for that being your preference

It is a little bit like people being like I really like cold french fries That's only high people say that Do high people say they like I used to I used to to eat cold ass french fries because I would be so high and it would be like, oh, that's right, I got those fries from earlier. And then you're just like, the bar's so low. I'm a stoner, but I've never been so high that I wanted to eat food served at the incorrect temperature on purpose. Oh, I'm a piece.

I'm a vile scumbag when it comes to like what I'll eat just high. Like the bar goes subterranean. The one cold food that I really ride for is cold chicken of any sort. Cold like fried chicken, cold wings. I really like cold wings. Yeah, I'll even have cold wings. Okay, I got an underrated now. Okay.

Because I can only think of things in terms of food in this moment. So my underrated is Salted Black Licorice. Very good. I love salted licorice. There's a specific brand that I think it's Finnish and I order it online because it's impossible to find anywhere else. It has like a witch on the bag. It's just an illustration of a witch flying through the sky.

I can't. I cannot hang with black liquor. Jungle Vrol. What's it called? Jungle Vrol? No, that's a different one. That's actually. It's called Hex Shale. Oh, Hex, yeah. H-E-K-S-H-E-Y-L.

Okay. Wait, is salted black liquor just better? I hate the flavor that anise flavor You not like this then okay. I was like maybe it's the salt like It's black licorice. It's Incredibly salty and it also if you look at the ingredients like it has like literal ammonia in it like it's um This is from Europe. They have different like preservatives that they use over there So the preservative used in this particular licorice like candy is is like ammonia based Yeah, which just makes it even more addictive cuz it has this like weird like like in your mouth yeah, it does feel like cuz I got on a salty licorice kick for a while and

It does it hasn't gotten that last, like, because it, in the United States, like all the best scientists are going into making food like addictive and perpetually addictive so that like, you can be on your 100th skittle and be like, man, these are actually getting better as you know, whereas like salty licorice, I feel like when I was on a real salted licorice kick, like I like the eighth piece, I was like, I need to stop. You know, this is like bad for preserving my mouth. I think I started tasting the ammonia. Yeah, I kind of like that. I I would never stop like I have to have to have stopped myself with this I'm a killer kind. It's the flavor is pretty strong and like overwhelming also like they're not hard

They're like they're a unique like delivery format because it's like it. It's like a little It looks like a sour straw or something like a little chunk of a sour straw like a segment a little and it has like a filling So it's like the there's like a tube that's like part and then the inside has this filling that's also more licorice but that's like really kind of ammonia part so you have two different textures and I'm getting way too into this. So I have a way that I like I do with all foods like snack foods I have a very specific way. I eat it It's like I I like have I put the piece of my mouth and then it's like a 15 minute process for one piece Of candy where I like break it down in my mouth

Eating it a certain way Obviously I have some some some conditions Some stuff going on I do mouth ADHD also where, or like OCD or whatever, like where I'm always like, I have routines that I do with my gum where I like flatten it out into a tube, then I roll the tube up, then I press the tube flat so that, or press the rolled up thing flat. So it's a pancake shape.

Roll that, roll the pancake up so that it's a flat tube, roll it out, then bring that up so it's like, you know, a roll of tape, press it flat into a pancake and just do that over and over again. I'm sorry I accused you of being high on Molly the last time we were together. Because your jaw, your mouth was going crazy. And if I had known you were just flattening that gum out,

yeah, I wouldn't have made that whole business meeting awkward. Do you ever mold the gum to the roof of your mouth? And with gum, it has to be the right kind of gum where it's firm enough. And then you pull it out and you're like, wow, that's the roof of my mouth. Um, yeah, yeah. It's always bubble gum because bubble gum, that has the thickness that you can really do like a dental impression. Yeah.

I'd be like, yep, that's the roof of my mouth and I'm 40 and I'm doing do like a dental impression. You're going to be like, yep, that's the roof of my mouth and I'm 40 and I'm doing this in a movie theater. Thank you. What do we say about chewing gum on mic, Jack? I can't stop. You motherfucker. I don't hear the sounds. My other routine is that I take trident, already small pieces, break them in half.

Oh my God. No, that's what my mom did. I would, that's trauma for me. I go through a lot of Trident, so I need this. When I'd go to church with the family as a kid and like I hated it because it was too long and boring and I would just continually ask my mom for pieces of gum, but she would choose Trident gum, the blue one, and she would tear the piece in half.

And I was always like, I was like fucking offended. Like how dare you? Half a gum? Mother. Yeah. I don't do it for anybody else, but when I'm chewing, I break it into half pieces. Yeah, if I ever only have a half piece left, my wife is very angry at me. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Weird person. Anyways, great overrated underrated. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. The stuff you should know guys have made their own summer playlists of their muscle and podcasts on movies. It's me, Josh. And I'd like to welcome you to the

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. I was just thinking, I was at the movies, I eat M&M, I let the M&M's melt in my mouth. I like to get the shell to just fully dissolve in my mouth and then I just eat the chocolate bits. That's one of my weird things. And then you get the little crunch when the rest of it is dissolved and you're like. Yeah, yep, yep. Did they ever put the M&Ms in the popcorn?

No, I don't like to do that. I don't like savory and sweet. Okay. All right, I like to make a little trail mix. Just shut up, Jack. I do like savory and sweet. I like to make a little trail mix. By the way, side note.

I used to think it was weird too and now I like it. If you do like the and sweet. I like to make a little trail mix. By the way, side note. I used to think it was weird too, and now I like it. If you do like the savory sweet combo, there's a new variety of Oreo out. It's a chocolate covered pretzel flavor. I saw that. Is it good? They're crazy. They do? Yes, they're very good.

I resisted when I was at the store yesterday. I was like, eh? They're very good. Yeah. I was a friend of mine. I love chocolate covered pretzels. During my early twenties, I was like, does anybody like, I would literally ask people if they knew anyone at M&Ms because I wanted M&Ms to make a chocolate covered pretzel version of M&Ms.

And then they did without checking with me and it sucked. And so I've always been skeptical because I've been burned before But the fact that Oreo has nailed it, you know, I don't put anything on there Yeah lemon Oreos like when they put their mind to something they sometimes really really connect. Mm-hmm All right. This sounds like a right-wing podcast because they're doing anything but talking about Elaine Maxwell and MNEMS mentioned talking about Gillain Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. And MNEMS mentioned. Yes. I like to make them melt in my hand and not my mouth because of that ad campaign.

Wasn't that their thing in the 80s? They melt in your mouth, not in your hand. I'm like, bullshit. Oh yeah? Tell me. If I squeeze a shit out of them. Yeah. Let's talk about Saint Gillain.

Saint Gillain of Deux Maxwell, I believe is what they're going to be calling her st. Gillian of Maxwell Yeah, the latest twist in the Epstein saga is like the full-on media press Campaign to normalize Gillian Maxwell Epstein's girlfriend and co-conspirator So the DOJ we talked about they announced that they would be speaking with her to find out what she knows. Although the Epstein files themselves would probably reveal a whole lot more than whatever she can gin up, but sure. Okay.

One of the defendants? Let's act like the secrets are all contained within Ghislaine Maxwell so you can avoid actually having a reckoning with all the documented evidence around the around the trial. Okay sure go ahead and do that and we also got reports now that Maxwell is quote preparing new evidence to show the deputy attorney general. Obviously teaming up with a convicted predator isn't the best look for Trump but they seem to think that if they can get Maxwell to say something like Donald had nothing to do with any of the fucked up child abuse that maybe the base will lay off. I'm not sure, but that's, it's, it's very much getting more and more like,

what are you going to get her to say in order for you to go give her a lighter sentence or commute her sentence or whatever Charlie Kirk was saying. He's like, talking to Maxwell is actually like a good thing and we should be encouraging the DOJ in this. And she's like, okay, that's one take of that box. And then Greg Kelly from Newsmax, who we've talked about before, he's the guy who's like, hey, what if Jeffrey Epstein, maybe he was a patriot. When they were first-

What if he was working for the CIA and actually doing this to save people's lives? I don't know, I'm just spit balling here. I'm just spit balling bullshit right now. He basically now is doing the similar thing with Galen Maxwell and asking just, maybe, maybe she's the one that's been wronged and we need to think about what, what her story is. This is a Greg Kelly on Newsmax.

I do have a feeling that she has been She just might be a victim She just might be There was a rush to judgment. There was a lot of chaos there for a while All right granted she hung out with Jeffrey Epstein. I know that's apparently not good But she's in jail. Wait, sorry her how long now? And apparently that's not good hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein. Like what? And now you can't hang out with a convicted sexual predator.

That is kind of like the, I think they want to take the sting out of being associated with like, that's a nice little poke at that. I'm like, which apparently I guess is like, that's a crime to be best friends with this guy and always hanging out with him and the people that he trafficked. Children. He goes on to have like a quote from Alan Dershowitz. Who's like, I don't know, man.

I think there's nothing to see. You know, he's, he's like, there's nothing to see here at all. Because that's just, that's my take to sort of protect myself. Then Greg Kelly comes up, comes back, like sort of echoing what Dershowitz says, cause he was like, maybe she deserves to be released. This is really unfair. Dershowitz says that. Ghislaine Maxwell got, got the raw, got a raw deal because someone had to

be held accountable for Jeffrey Epstein. But then this is Greg Kelly, just yes. And in that take, She deserves to be out. And maybe she never deserved to be in there in the first place. Now, how does that make such a thing? I mean, these are perverts. These are child molesters. We've heard that from whom?

From the media, from prosecutors, what the fuck prosecutors prosecuted President Trump over nothing. I don't know, but I'm skeptical of everything and everybody these days. And you should be, too. Oh, so that's they're there. Yeah, they're signaling pretty strongly what what the next phase of this thing is, is just getting Gillian to say something. Everyone has to believe her and we'll move on and she can be free.

So they rehab her image to use her as a star witness. And then also kind of planting the idea that she should be out so that they can then pardon her in exchange for whatever she's going to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so like blatant, like they They didn't even do the, and also maybe they didn't provide anything to say she's innocent. They just said, so I don't know. I just have this feeling that she's a victim too.

Yeah. Again, their prosecutors were mean to Trump and they're the ones who are saying she did bad stuff. Yeah. It's literally bad stuff. Yeah. Literally the argument. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know.

I mean, this, this isn't really everything they're saying isn't really changing the minds of a lot of people like in the Republican party though, like even people like Nancy Mace have sided with Democrats to get them to like, to have like more materials released. So I don't know what they're just like in a weird spot. And now like you have other Republicans trying to do stuff of like, we like, we all know dirt bags, hell, I know a few dirt bags myself. And you're like, what?

Huh? That's what they're saying. Yeah. That's what dirt bags. That's what Tim Burkett, uh, the Congressman Tim Burkett said. He's like, Hey, it's just like, he said, it's just like me. I know, I know a lot of dirt bags myself. And you're like, that's not a, that's not a good line.

That's truly like a, I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast line. And someone goes, you eat pieces of shit? Right. And then you go, uh, you'd hang out with dirt bags? What do you mean? As in pedophiles? Is that what you're saying? No, no, just pedophiles. Is that what you're saying? No.

You know pedophiles? No. And you call them dirtbags? It's Obama, guys. It's Obama. Like, you know, that's where everything, that's the vibe of everything right now. So yeah, we should brace ourselves for a whole lot of nonsense because as on Thursday, apparently that's when the deputy attorney general is supposed to meet with

Galane Maxwell to whatever the fuck they're going to cook up. Because Pam Bondi is stressed out or something. Isn't that the thing they're saying that she's suffering from? She said she had a corn tornia. Or torn cornea. She had a corn tornia. She said he's had a torn cornea. So she had to miss some like human trafficking event today.

That's what was crazy. She was scheduled to speak at a human trafficking thing for CPAC, I think. Dislocated cornea runs in my family. By human trafficking event, you mean where they all get together and commit human trafficking? Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. She never misses those, Siri. She's such a huge fan.

She's a huge fan because she's got to bring it down. Yeah, no, truly. But dislocated corneas are caused by or exacerbated by stress. I wonder what could be stressing her out. I don't know. There's no way to know, really. No way to know. No way to know. No way to know. Cause we, we did of course get the revelation that she had to tell Trump in

May that he was in the files, which around the time that he started being like, what's, what's the big deal with this? Why is everybody going on and on being so weird about this thing? That's all just the guy's dead. He's dead. What are you? Whoa. Why are we still talking about him? Oh, it's all just guys dead. He's dead. What do you, why are we still talking about him?

Oh, it's not going away. It ain't going away. No matter how hard they try it, like there's another report that he's just basically banning people in the administration from even speaking on anything about it. Now. Yeah. To just like act like, I don't know, like a possum or something like just, just play possum if they ask you to just be like, I don't know, like a possum or something. Like just play possum if they ask. It'd just be like, I don't know.

I can't say anything. It has to have a quote high level clearance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all bad. I don't know how they're, I don't know. It's ironic to watch this conspiracy that they have been fanning the flames of, like they fanned it to the point that the flames got so out of control now. And they're like, it could burn us now.

Do we think he just forgot that he was best friends with him for like a decade? Do we wait like when he was fanning the flames or we just think he was like, so in the, like, the crowd seems to be responding to this. So that's what we're going with. It's so short-sighted. I think he just, he knew people were cheering about it. And also I think because of his entire life has been a festival of getting away with shit Right, but it's never in his mind that this could be tricky at all. He's like, yeah fucking do like

The flames he wasn't necessarily talking specifically about Epstein, right? So That he just didn't know the fire was gonna spread like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Alright, let's talk about bore out the sequel to bore at We're at three bore out What's the most bored you've been at a job Siri? Um She has a right now. Yeah, yes a now? Right now, I bet. Right now. Yeah, I'm pretty bored right now. I'm not getting paid for this, so this isn't a good job.

Okay, so like it was the most bored I've ever been, but also overall I liked the job because when it wasn't boring, it was fun, but just there was so much boredom involved. And it was honestly the last job that I had before I got back into the porn industry. Because I started in porn in 2012 and then retired in 2015. So from 2015 until I came back in 2020, I had worked civilian jobs regular regular folk jobs and the last one I had before I Came out of retirement Was at a like a small publishing company and we would do Like trade like magazines and like directories and stuff for a different like professional trade associations

we had clients all over the US and so the boredom would come from like Just well one being at a desk all day Having to either look at a screen or do I was a copy editor and like copywriter for a bunch of these clients that I you know worked on their publications and just just Some of the stuff that I had to work on was so dry. One of my clients in my book was, I forget the name,

but it was the fiberglass professionals of the Southwest or something. So those are actually, that's a good region for fiberglass professionals. the west, southwest or something. Right, right, right. So they... Those are actually... Yeah. That's a good region for fiberglass professionals. Southwest fiberglass. Yeah. I had to edit the quarterly magazine for all of their trade association members.

And so each issue was just article after article that I either had to write, go interview people, write up the things, or just they would deliver it already written and have to like, you know, edit it. And and it was just they didn't let you put your own essay about fiberglass. Right, right. Oh, you know, truly. Yeah. Kingpin of the Southwest fiberglass industry.

Yeah, hot shot. So and then some of them were like less boring though. So like the really, really dry ones were like ugh. But then the funeral directors associations. We had a bunch of different like regional ones in that group of clients. So I got to edit one of their things and the funeral directors, they're freaks. What do you mean? Like that was some fun stuff. Even if the material I had to edit was like super dry, I'd still have fun with it because

the ads in that magazine were all like for like cranes to move the dead body in your embalming station and shit. Like it was unhinged. Corpse cranes. And funeral directors are very funny people is what I learned. They generally have a good sense of humor. Very connected to the aspect of life that the vast majority of polite society is spending like, I'd say 10 to 40% of our energy every day just suppressing thoughts about death,

and they're just in it all day, just being like, yeah. So then we moved a bunch of bodies around. Uh, so they just, yeah, that's very interesting. Well, God, I mean, I'm wondering, maybe it would have been more fun if you could put your own spin on that fiberglass quarterly article, uh, and made it a little more fun, but like there's all, all, we talk all the time about all these funny phrases people come up with that talk about the ills of capitalism, like quiet quitting. And you know, like micro retirements.

And now there's bore out. Micro retirements, by the way, were vacations. Vacations, vacations, vacations. This guy's weird. He does a micro retirement once every couple of years for two weeks where he doesn't even think about or do any work while he's micro retired. So, it's not quite burnout where you are worked too hard and have nothing left in the tank. It's like being bored out of your mind because your job is not stimulating at all.

Quote, rather than feeling overwhelmed from too many tasks and responsibilities, you're simply unmotivated and stagnant due to a lack of challenges or growth opportunities. It's difficult to find purpose when you have nothing to work toward and no obstacles to overcome. Quote, while most people feel bored at work every now and again,

feeling chronically disinterested in your job for weeks on end means there may be an underlying issue going on said Peter Duris, CEO of AI career app kick resume. Why is it always AI people? It's always, we had that guy who was like, parenting is hard, use AI. And he was like an AI executive. It's funny that they just like have a lot of time, I guess, to sit around because they don't fucking do shit I think it's probably easy to like get your name in an article and then people go Oh, what's it's like a soft ad, you know, essentially, right? Because this one again, there's so many articles or they're just like you guys are talking about late-stage

Capitalism and capitalism in general, but you're doing everything you can to not use those words so rather than describing I don't know like the you can to not use those words. So rather than describing, I don't know, like the Marxist theory of alienation, like where, you know, you're reduced to being a cog in a financial machine and you aren't encouraged to live out to your full human potential under capitalism. Like that might be why you're bored. That could be, that could be the nature of the bore out rather than like them being like, make sure your HR department is more accessible. What the fuck are you saying? The solution to existential despair, talking to HR.

Cause that actually exacerbates mine. That actually makes my existential despair worse. Yeah. I'm talking to somebody who has a fake personality. It's just funny. Cause like, Hey, Oh my God, I'm so glad to be talking to you who has a fake personality. It's just funny because like, hey, oh my God, I'm so glad to be talking to you, JARNK. JARNK. I think that's the thing,

everyone is feeling like capitalism grind them down. I guess the revolutionary thing would be write articles about how our modern world is making us more and more disconnected from our humanity. But whatever, we just get these articles with a quote from an AI executive, like as a smoke screen and then some really cool tips on how to cope. It's called a bore out. Yeah. It's, it's, it's a really tough name.

They, they haven't really nailed it with this one. Why quitting at least like rolled off the tongue bore out. Just you, you really want to say bore out every single time? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, I think, I don't know, broadly, do you see the stuff about how like four day work weeks are better for people and like allowing people to like,

you know, have time off to be humans helps. Yeah. But it's, it's. Couldn't be us. What's, what's the like experience like in terms of like in the adult film industry, in terms of your feeling of ownership over your work and how that compares with other professions, Siri? Well, I mean, I have pretty complete ownership over it at this point,

which is, it's not unique to me, but that's not really the average experience. I mean, it kind of depends. People have different – there's different ways of building a career in the adult industry. But for me, I don't have an agent, so I only book shoots directly for things where I'm working for a paycheck for a studio, for a company. That's still a really small percentage of the total work I do. Most of what I do is just making my own content and selling it on fan platforms.

And that's just, I have all the control. Exactly. That's probably empowering to be able to have a say in what your labor is and ownership of it versus,, like when I fucking did stupid retail jobs and they're like, you guys need to unwrap all the purses and set them up now. And I'm like, I can't fucking do this anymore. Yeah, retail is painful. I've, I have, it's hard. It's hard. But yeah, yeah. But again, I think like it's all these articles, I feel like just all miss like

the point about it's like, it's the thing that we yearn for is to have work that feels like we are somehow centered. And even if we have to toil to like be able to survive, like being able to emphasize that you also need the autonomy as a person to like create or do nothing, look sure whatever the fuck you want to do and still have the ability to do that without feeling like, oh, you will die in the streets if you don't work constantly. Like that's, that's what we're getting at here, but sure. Let's call it bore out. That makes you feel weird. There's something wrong with you. It's called bore out. More at 11.

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We're back. And another pandemic movie has hit, apparently, the new Ari Aster movie, the guy made Midsommar and Hereditary, and Bo Is Afraid, which I'm now being told is worth watching. People who, I don't know, when it first came out, it was very mixed reviews.

And maybe this will be the same, but his new movie, Eddington, is like a Western, but it takes place during the pandemic and it's like an anti-vax sheriff versus a liberal. Triangulator. Yeah, a triangulator, a politician, and Peter Pascal.

It's like everyone's bad and crazy and fighting with each other. But it like does take place during the pandemic. Everybody's just like communicating and like looking at screens. And some people say it's a boring vision of the world. That's one of the reviews. That was the Jacobin review. I've heard other piece, someone, I saw someone who saw it early and they were just kind of like, I didn't like it because it felt as crazy as everything is.

Like it didn't feel, it was sort of like maybe under, but again, I think that's, I think that's the thing with pandemic movies is everyone has their version of it that they're bringing to the content like this. And you might be like, oh, wow, this is interesting. Or some people might be like, dude, I don't want to fucking think about this. Yeah. Yeah. Like Like that's the thing. I remember when the pandemic first started, we were on here like talking about how to, like where to find content from like from other pandemics. Right. And the thing I settled on that was like my favorite thing about pandemics was the Camus novel that is, I'm drawing a blank

on the name of it, but- Plague. Yeah, Plague, I think is what it's called. But that one is really good, but it was written like decades after the pandemic. And so, I mean, maybe this will be a thing where people in 50 years are just like look back and be like, oh shit, that's what it was like, you know It's like a time capsule of just like how bad everything was that's like too real Like time capsules are not fun to open a couple years later

But if you open them decades later, it can be pretty cool. So but yeah, just generally like pandemic content is real Hit and mostly miss. Yeah. I just don't, I don't know. I mean, like, I think it probably just because we're two, we're still in the midst of COVID being, like being a thing that's still affecting people. So I don't know how much time it'll take, but also I think part of me also thinks of like how that, how like the lockdowns really fractured people in this way that suddenly

it was fine to not give a fuck about the collective wellbeing of others. And in fact, that was like a virtue for some people. And I don't know if maybe that that needs to be dove into deeper, but I think that's like a discomfort I get from it. I'm like, oh man, like shit real people started really fucking breaking apart too at that point when it's like I don't give a fuck if my grandmother dies like you're just like this What is no no, sir? Are you a pandemic? content fan

Of the pandemic Are you looking for that shit? Are you a fan of the pandemic? Are you a fan of that? Top pandemics, name them. Oh, Lord. Yeah. Your favorite pandas. Like, I don't know.

I can't even name you one piece of like a movie or anything about a pandemic situation that I'm like, yeah, I love that. Or no, but like when you hear about it, are you kind of like, oh fuck, dude, I don't, this isn't really something I can appreciate about. Just like anytime it's like in the news for some reason now. Or no, like Eddington, like for example, for some reason now or no like adding to like for example This film Eddington like okay in place I mean, I'm definitely gonna see the movie now and I like I mean midsummer is like in my top three favorite movies of all

Time so yeah, I like and I liked but was afraid even though it was a lot Yeah, wait, what was that? Wait, what's it about? What is it about? Oh, Jesus. Yeah, that's all I need to know. Like Ari Asher and then Ari Asher goes, what is it about? And I'm like, all right. That's good for me.

It's like the inside of a very broken brain, right? Yeah. It takes place. Yeah. It's a wild ride. It's like if you want to watch a movie and feel like you've experienced like full psychotic like mania, et cetera, like that's a good one.

It's just, it's very unique and interesting and well done. I only saw it once in the theaters. I should watch it again. Yeah. So I'll definitely be watching this one. I like everything Ari Aster's done. Yeah, I do feel like horror is the place that we go to for because like, you know, like I was saying, like just the actual dynamic of a pandemic is sort of like,

meaning like, you know, people just randomly, you know, we tell stories and listen to stories because they help us make narrative sense of a world that is oftentimes somewhat random. I feel like pandemics and plagues and stuff like that, that's the thing that Camu book writes about a lot, is just how random it is, who catches it and who gets it and like people's inability to like kind of deal with that. Yeah. But just that's not what we want our stories to tell us. We don't want them to be like, yeah, it's actually turns out all meaningless and like

fucking random. And like you just died because the person who made your soup, like had a bad teacher in the grade where they go over germ theory. And so they didn't wash their hands like three days ago. You know, just like that's not the sort of thing that we go to stories for. So like horror movies that like represent these fears and things like that. I feel like that's probably where we're going to work this shit out. Uh, our writer Jan was saying that 28 years later has a lot of

like pandemic-y stuff in it. You know, I mean, it's literally about a, uh, a pandemic that changes how people live their lives. It's just, you know, in that one, it's much cooler. It's a rage virus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But yeah, there's one, it's much cooler. It's a rage virus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. But yeah, there's like a doctor who everybody hates because he's a doctor and shit like that. Everybody's like, fuck doctors. Fuck a doctor.

Yeah. Fucking tell me. I mean, that's that whole thing. When people say like, I'm not going to the doctor because they're going to tell me something's wrong. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's a very American. Yeah. Yeah. Not a good. Yeah. Oh, for sure. And also like you can also understand it's like very American. Yeah, yeah, not a good. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Uh, and also like, you can also understand it's like, not only will they tell me something's wrong, it'll also cost too much money. Uh, right. So I'm just going to ride this one out until TBD. Yeah.

I mean, uh, I'm, I am, I am curious to see like how the sort of lib Pascal, uh, Pedro Pascal characters kind of presented. Because again, I think that from what it sounds like, people are sort of annoyed about everyone was kind of fucking wacky during the pandemic. But I think I'm really curious to see how they're actually skewering that because yeah, I know they allude to toilet paper hoarding,

but that felt like a full across the political spectrum wacky thing people were doing. We're like toilet paper hoarding, but that felt like a full across the political spectrum wacky thing people were doing. We were all toilet paper hoarding. It was not just the left. Okay. I still am working my way through a stockpile. That's why I felt like a fucking God with my bidet because I'm like Brian use a toilet paper like that.

I just need a little bit. You know what I mean? That's it. But they got out here. use a toilet paper like that. I just need a little bit. You know what I mean? That's it. But day God out here. I saw the maids. Great. But they, but they got my day. God.

Yeah, exactly. Uh, well, Siri, such a pleasure having you. Where can people bless you? God bless you. Uh, as we say it, all of our guests, God bless you. Siri, where can people find you, follow you? I think you have a pretty cool event coming up. Is that right?

I do have a cool event coming up. People can find me on siridoll.com. Hell yeah. TheSiriDoll again on Instagram. And I'm on bluesky at siridoll.com. I have one of those fancy URL usernames. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I am hosting an event in September called Corn Telethon.

This is the second one. Me and my friend and business buddy, Alex Steed, we co-produce it. Alex Steed. Alex Steed. Friend of the show. Friend of the show. And so, Corn Telethon is a, much like the telethons of yore in like the 80s and 90s, we're fundraising for sex worker mutual aid nonprofits.

It is basically a 12 hour live streamed variety show. And it's very, it's very fun and very grueling. I think we had like 40 guests, like in person last year. We had a lot, like there's a lot of, it's just a revolving door. Everyone's coming in to play a song or, you know, tell some jokes and sit on the couch and the whole thing is like,

we're gonna entertain the shit out of you for 12 hours straight and please donate some money to a good cause. Well, like, and so it's truly a variety show. Like you're saying music, comedy. Wow. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

A little bit of everything. Do you have people actually answering phones? No, we don't. Uh, we, I don't know. We haven't. We're donation based. It's, it's a little like logistically challenging to set that up. Um, and also there's the aspect of like, since it's, it is live streamed, like we're, we stream it on like YouTube and Twitch.

Which does provide like, yeah, I would love to do a live call in line, but I watch enough other live streamers to know that like, when you do that on those platforms, you're putting yourself at risk for like a channel. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause there's going to be some dipshit who calls in and says slurs. Like, yeah, yeah. If you need somebody just in the background, picking up a phone and

pretending to have a conversation, but the phone's not connected to anything. Yeah. Yeah. We wanted to do that last year and we kind of like didn't have like, yeah, it was it really it was going to be more complicated to set up than I think we had realistic time to achieve. But we might we might be trying to do I do I've been buying prop telephones. Oh, really? Yeah, I have two and a third on the way.

Okay. But and in case I haven't mentioned this, but in case it's not obvious, I feel like it probably is. But it's called corn Telethon because we can't use the word porn right that wasn't obvious to me and corn is like the code word on that that People have been using on tik-tok for a while like when you talk about porn you just say corn or you use the corn emoji Right nice along with sags As people are still people using sags still yeah. Yeah, I mean there's different versions of alls still? Yeah. Yep.

I mean, there's different versions of all of them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny how much trying to skirt algorithms that tamp down on our free speech has forced us to have like, you watching some corn? I mean, porn. Sorry.

Talking like the algorithm. You do always open conversations like that. You watching some corn? You guys watch some corn? Forget it. Can you get out of here, man? Sorry. Like the algorithm, you do always open conversations like that. You watch just straight up corn. You guys watch some core. Uh, can you get out of here, man? Sorry. You guys, you guys got basketballs? You guys sell basketballs here?

All right. It's a library. This is a public library. I knew that. I knew that. Yeah. That, that explains some very confusing conversations. I thought segs was just like a short form for segues.

I was like, they got any, yeah, some segues. Segues. Well, wonderful. People can find out more about that at siridoll.com. At corntelathon.com. Corntelathon. Specific to the telethon, yes. There we go.

September 4th. Wonderful. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yeah, unfortunately, I really enjoyed Temptation Island. Temptation Island. Yeah. Okay. That was crazy. I'd never seen it.

You sound so sad. Yeah, because it's bleak. That's how I feel about all the dating reality shows, but Temptation Island in particular, oh boy. Yeah. Oh yeah. Deeply entertaining, but also like, wow. Cause it's like people who have their like unmarried couples, right? And then it's like, I don't know y'all.

Can y'all handle some, a bunch of hot people? Yeah. And then they bring like 12. Like they make the, they, well, they separate them by gender and then they make them live with like 12 Tenters or temptresses in a house together And then if they like there's a point the show we're like if they have sex then like a klaxon alarm goes off in the Other house, but so they know someone's fucking but they don't know Didn't realize that and yeah, it's one of their significant others. Yeah Wow

It's it's really crazy. Well, this is kind of like I'm I'm not monogamous I'm Polly like I'm in a very long-term relationship, but you know where we were Polly So it's it's wild to watch like pretty much the format of every single dating reality show is like We're gonna make these straight cis, right? Monogamous couples like microdose polyamory. Yeah. And give them zero fucking tools to handle it. Right, right, right.

And of course, it's always disastrous. Like, yeah. That's what especially like once like, it's a Netflix dating show, then I'm always like, they're going to turn the turn the fuck you up to 300. Because that's how I even feel about like the ultimatum and stuff. It's like a similar thing where it's like, I don't know maybe you're going to get made or maybe you go fuck this other person we pair you up with and we'll watch you,

your relationship fall apart. Yeah. I can never really decide if I believe that they're intentionally casting douchebags or if like, you just happen to be a douchebag to be. Yeah. Or if it's people, because I know like people go on reality shows for like a lot of reasons. And I mean, one of the biggest ones is because you, uh, once you're off the show, you're, you're selling something to somebody, even if it's just your social media presence. But yeah, so it's like, man, how many of these people are actually this much like of a degenerate or, or is it just like this, you've created a degenerate

persona for this reality show. Yeah. Right. I bet some of them look in the mirror and they don't even know anymore. Right. Yeah. Who am I? I'm a douchebag.

They just like get people really drunk, right? even know anymore. Right? Yeah. Who am I? I'm a douchebag. Mm-hmm. Chicken or the egg? So they just get people really drunk, right? Is this one of those? Yeah, there have been lawsuits from Love Island, so I've heard. I don't know much about it because I just started watching the new season of that one and I haven't been paying close enough. It's kind of slower paced. Right, right, right. Yeah, but all the, all the ones like the early 2000s, late 90s dating shows, those are all just booze filled. Yeah. Like, fucking nonsense. I think it was I hope I'm not misspeaking. But I'm pretty sure

because I have a friend who was like telling me all about the love island lore that they like there was a lawsuit that resulted in they don't just get like unlimited free like they have to buy their own alcohol Like the people on the show now on that on that one to limit the way okay over. That's amazing. Yeah Wow Awesome miles where can people find you is there work media you've been enjoying yeah find me everywhere at miles of gray I'm chatting shit about 420 day or 90 day fiance on for 20 day fiance with Sophia Alexandra that's where I talk about my nonsense reality dating show kick. And let's see a work of media. I like, yes, this is a post on blue sky.

Uh, this is from at Dr. Yen's fold or Yen's fold.de posted news. Malcolm Jamal Warner, who you've admired as a kid, has died. Me. No news. Ozzy Osborne, who you've admired as a kid, has died. Me. No. Hulk Hogan, who you've admired as a kid, has died. Me.

Ah, oh, well, I didn't know that Hulk Hogan died. Yeah. You fucking and then so did Chuck Mangione right after that. Oh, no, not Chuck Mangione. The great trumpet player that was made famous on King of the Hill for me. Not Luigi's dad. Not Luigi's uncle.

Honestly, I was like, why does that name sound so familiar? Chuck Mangione, if you remember King of the Hill, I think he died in the Megalo Mart explosion, or he was in that episode anyway. And he also, he's made a ton of hits that like, you know, notorious B.I.G. sampled and shit. Chuck Mangione made a ton of hits that like, notorious BIG sample and shit. Chuck Mangione was the man. Then the next one is from John Scott Railton at

jsrailton.biscuit.social. It's a graphic of a new Mercedes dashboard. It says, Mercedes-Benz expands collaboration with Microsoft to boost in-car productivity with enhanced meetings for Teams app into an integration and Microsoft 365 co-pilot." And they quote tweeted and said, consider your honor that my client was being extremely productive at the time of the crash. Yeah.

Maybe that'll get you out. That'll help. I like to tweet somebody who was like, uh, when you call customer support and a clanker picks up and it's that picture of the guy like pulling the headphones off feeling, oh, Jose Mourinho. Yeah. And Kit Grimovana tweeted, can't believe I've lived far enough into the future to learn the first slur for robots.

Clanker. Dang. I got a dang clanker on here. Clanker. So wild. Say about a customer service bot. Anyways, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien, and on Blue Sky at Jack OB, the number one.

You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it, and underneath the show description, you'll find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy? Yes. This is from the producer B. Searle.

It's spelled B-S-E-A-R-L. The track is called Sold My Soul, and it's just a really nice nice sort of like super minimal, dancy track, kind of R&B. You'll like it. If you got a little bit of honey in your hips, you're gonna like this track, Sold My Soul. It's a head nodder.

So check this one out from B.Ceril. I don't have any honey in my hips currently, but I wouldn't mind getting some. You can test it with this track, Jack. Might make your big toe shoot up in your boot. Uh-oh. I'm going to take my boot off. We will link off to that in the footnotes.

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