The Daily Zeitgeist - ‘Saltburn’ Republicans, Dave & Busters = America’s 3rd Space 05.01.24

Episode Date: May 1, 2024

In episode 1668, Jack and Miles are joined by TikTok superstar and author of I Survived Capitalism and All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt, Madeline Pendleton, to discuss… Oh No Way... Being Into Puppy...-cide Isn’t Even A Winning Quality Anymore? Trump Fined $9000 For Violating Gag Order, DEA Moving to Reclassify Marijuana, Dave & Buster’s Introduces (More) Gambling, One of the Big Powerball Winners is a Cancer Patient Who Wants to Find a “Good Doctor” and more! Kristi Noem just learned a painful lesson about trolling liberals MAGA Names Turn on Kristi Noem Over Dog Killing Kristi Noem has ‘no shot’ as Trump’s VP pick after puppy-killing controversy: sources Trump Fined $9000 For Violating Gag Order Judge in hush money trial threatens Trump with jail after holding him in contempt for violating gag order DEA Moving to Reclassify Marijuana Dave & Buster’s Introduces (More) Gambling Dave & Buster’s planning to let customers place wagers on arcade games using an app Lucra Sports Raises $10 Million Series A for Peer-to-Peer Sports Gaming Marketplace to Wager on Player Performance 'A Ticking Time Bomb': Gambling Addiction Is at an All-Time High (and It's About to Get Worse) One of the Big Powerball Winners is a Cancer Patient Who Wants to Find a “Good Doctor” A massive Powerball win draws attention to a little-known immigrant culture in the US LISTEN: Runnin' by OMASee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I was checking out some of your recent TikToks, but like on the thrifting side of things, when you were talking about rag houses and stuff, I was like, oh, rag house? Is that just like a spot that just has just containers full of garments, basically, that you like you're saying you just feel for like, it's so much like, I have to trust my sense of feeling to know if this is worth pulling. Yeah, totally. It's like a giant warehouse. And they the clothes are often moved around on forklifts. And then they're bailed together in plastic wrap and stored. And then they'll pull some bales down. And sometimes they'll organize them into like these giant cardboard stand up things. Right.
Starting point is 00:00:49 So you dig through them by garment type and it's just so much clothing. Yeah. And you're literally like sometimes you can't see. I'm little. So sometimes I'm like upside down in the bin digging. Right. Like, yeah, like a bear digging in the trash or something. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:00:59 That's exactly. Yeah. But it can be dangerous. Like a guy here in L.A. died in a rag house a couple of years ago. Yeah. Got like buried by all the guy here in L.A. died in a rag house a couple years ago. Yeah. Got like buried by all the vintage clothing? No. Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Jesus Christ. Yeah. Because it's really unsafe. The environment. It's a factory setting, you know. So he was pulling in a bin and I guess a whole bunch of clothing fell on him. And it was the workers lunch break at the time. And he was there alone.
Starting point is 00:01:29 So, yeah, he suffocated in a pile of clothing over hours. Nobody knew he was was in there so you have to like go in with like a buddy it's like pretty intense people really don't like a breathing apparatus yeah we're on the front lines also just blew my mind that there's even a spike the way you're like yeah rag houses i'm like what a rag house like that's just terminology talking about my favorite type of music, Scott Joplin set to a house beat. Old ragtime? Old raghouse. Old maple leaf rag. Yeah, but with a hard dubstep drop on it. You've heard of lo-fi house, but this is the new thing.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Raghouse. Yeah, exactly. Just raghouse. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jacksonna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career.
Starting point is 00:02:13 That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Starting point is 00:02:45 And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 336, Episode 3 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist Day, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. And it is Wednesday, May 1st, 2024. Happy birthday. Happy 8th to my eldest. Oh, eight years old.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Eight years on the set. You believe it? Okay. You believe? I can. I mean, I remember when he were just a young babe and now a full-blown amir young babe yeah amir young babe also may 1st is national skilled trades day shout out the skilled trades uh but people who are the tradies out there national interpreter appreciation day
Starting point is 00:04:19 it's also may day school principals day law day national chocolate parfait day national mother May Day, School Principals Day, Law Day, National Chocolate Parfait Day, National Mother Goose Day. Oh, this one's fucking grim, dude. National Loyalty Day, and it's a bunch of hands high-fiving above an American flag. I think that was probably brought to us by the National Endowment for Democracy. Yeah. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Wow. Amazing. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I'm the worst pick. Let me murk it. I'll talk about that later. Amazing. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I'm the worst pick. Let me murk it. I put my dog down flipping a reverse wick. It's... That is courtesy of Salvador Jolly,
Starting point is 00:04:55 God tier, a.k.a. About the Christy Gnome. Controversy? Not really a controversy, I guess. It's basically everyone in the world is like, that's fucked up, man. You're a fucked up person. Crime against life and joy?
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah. Christy Gnome, crime against life and joy, maybe? Yeah. Anyways, shout out to Salvador Jolly for a very good AKA. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Hey, it's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Miles, where you getting them shoes at? Are you tying them?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Shout out to Al Schweitzer on Twitter because you're talking about, are you tying your shoes? Do you slip them on? Do you slip them off? Do you half tie them so they have the appearance of being tied but are easy to slip off? And, yeah, I am tying them them but i could slide right out of them because that's that's just the middle point you'd like to find with a shoe i tie my shoes exactly once per pair and then they never when i get them tied yeah yeah unless i like forget shoes to like run in or something then i have to like actually tie them so they don't like fall off something
Starting point is 00:06:01 where you're doing something like if i'm going like on a hike or something yeah i will tie my shoes because i can't have the shits just flopping off at a moment's notice but my comfort shoes i i do only tie once i gauge it i do the slide in slide out test and uh yeah anyways miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a TikTok superstar, author of the memoir, I Survived Capitalism, and All I Got Was This Lousy T-Shirt. Please welcome back to the show, Ellen Pendleton! Hello! I'm so happy to be here, guys. Thanks for having me back. What's up? Great to have you. We had a good time last time.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Yeah, I'm all right. I'm all right. Can't complain. I mean, I can complain. I love to complain, but I won't. Yeah, yeah. I get that. That's a good way to actually say things. I'm like, I can't. Do you want me to complain? We can do it. We can do it.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I'm like, we can just name anything. I'll complain right now about anything. You know me. You get me. Yeah, exactly. No, no, no. I think we're all in a state of, I have a lot to say, but do you want me to? Because I can. If not,
Starting point is 00:07:06 we can just, let's just, we can make things nice for now. Yeah, for sure. For sure. What's new with you? Anything new? I think last time I remember you were like, I got to go. I got a photo shoot. I was like, yeah, we're not getting in the way of that. Yeah, that's true. Lots of work stuff. The newest thing that I've got going on is I'm doing the second leg of my book tour. So that's exciting. We have some dates booked in Philadelphia and Brooklyn for May, as well as Santa Cruz, California. So if anybody out there wants to come do a little book signing, book reading, they're pretty fun. The first leg of the book tour, we had like 300 people at every single one. Some of the locations had to like move us because so many people showed up. So it was a good time.
Starting point is 00:07:44 And I'm really excited to do Philadelphia because I feel a kindred connection with the philly folk you know i follow the gritty twitter like what else how much more connected to philadelphia could i be that's actually the maximum level of connected you can be to philadelphia yeah yeah yeah to follow their hockey mascot social media i really think so yeah um so yeah pretty excited about that yeah that's gotta be fun that's gotta be do you have any roots in philadelphia we were just talking about this yesterday that like there's a lot of people who like kind of claim philadelphia even though like i i being one of them like my family is from philadelphia but i've never lived there particularly you're from philly yeah but i'm like i i have like philly sports allegiances and yeah weird philly
Starting point is 00:08:26 just pride even though okay yeah i have none of that you have way more of a reason to feel connected to philadelphia than i do the only reason i feel connected to philadelphia is the same way i feel connected to like half of florida and all of arizona and most of new jersey which is that i'm from fresno california And it's a place where like we solve conflicts by throwing punches first and then buying someone a drink afterwards. And I think that this is kind of the energy that a good like 12% of the country has.
Starting point is 00:08:54 And Philadelphia is one of those places. So I feel at home when I'm there. Cause I'm like, I understand socially the dynamics at play here, you know? Yeah, right, right, right. It feels like home these places yeah it's like a snooki positive environment like if there's a place you could just pluck snooki and put her there and everybody would be like that feels normal this is like some sort of it's like a
Starting point is 00:09:16 dark ley line connection of some kind between us right yeah yeah you call ahead you're like is it a dog friendly environment is it positive are you positive? Are you guys Snook positive? How are we? Could a Snooki survive there? Yeah. Yes. This is what I want to know before I go into anywhere. And I can confidently say Snooki would survive in Philadelphia. Be cherished. A beloved icon, I think. Yeah. Truly. All right. Well, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about just the continued fallout from South Dakota
Starting point is 00:09:51 Governor Kristi Noem's chapter from her upcoming book, where she made it clear that she has no soul and what that has wrought on her political career. Donald Trump has been fined nine thousand dollars for violating gag orders uh which did not seem like a significant story except for the fact that the judge has also mentioned the possibility of like and if you keep fucking up there might be another punishment is he doing a biden red line with netanyahu kind of version he's like you better not but you keep doing it has biden threatened to put netanyahu in prison because that's no not yet i guess that's the next escalation he's like i'll put you in prison man but the arm shipments will keep we'll continue but i'll you'll be in trouble bro but i'm not gonna do anything yeah i'd love to see that play out we will talk about dave and busters is introducing
Starting point is 00:10:43 more gambling but like real gambling with money about dave and busters is introducing more gambling but like real gambling with money at dave and busters instead of like dave and busters tickets or whatever the fuck they had going on before right people yeah now add a new level of anxiety to a place that has multiple children's birthday parties going on. Add gambling addicts losing their life savings. Alongside, yeah. Some kid who's just trying to play what's that thing called? Hockey?
Starting point is 00:11:14 Air hockey? Boots ball. Ski ball. That's where people are down. Oh my god. Wow. So you can put money on the line. Lose it all. Introduce your children early to what it's like to go to Las Vegas and just witness ambient destruction of people's lives. I don't know if I could gamble on ski ball games. I think I'd be into it. Like what if the adults could go in? I can't, I'm going
Starting point is 00:11:42 to wait for the segment, but I'm imagining as an adult, I can walk in, see some kids playing skeeball and place my bets on who I think is going to take it home. You know, that's smart. Yeah. I think you have to be betting on yourself or like one other friend, but yeah, you could, I guess, get into a contest with a child and be like, all right, I'm not above that. I'm not money where your mouth is. Exactly. I'm like, what's up? It's your birthday. How much you get for your birthday? You probably got some cash on you, right? You got 25. All right, let's do that. Yeah. It's a target rich environment. Let's just say that, you know, that's your mom over there. Hey, Hey, Hey, can you co-sign? Can you co-sign this? You're going to do double or nothing right now. Up to 50. Oh, cool. Cool. Cool. All right. Go full. Let's see what you got.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Staying in the world of gambling. One of the big powerball winners is a cancer patient who wants to find a good doctor with their like fourth fourth biggest powerball winning pot ever and they're like oh maybe i can afford health care now oh my god i hate it here i just saw the headlines that a cancer stricken person had won the power ball or whatever and then i didn't know like the and part was it's a heartwarming story miles because now they can afford health care yeah yeah yeah and we'll still somehow be in medical debt yeah just a little bit much less medical debt despite winning 422 million or however much. Yeah. All of that, plenty more. But first, Madeline, we do like to ask our guest,
Starting point is 00:13:09 what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are or what you're up to? It's a little controversial. My search histories always go wacky, though. I literally am giving you the most recent thing I looked up, which is 12 waitresses kidnapped from North Korea. Oh, this is literally the last thing I said. A new album. Someone's album.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Yes. USAID sponsored. It'll be on Radio America or whatever the propaganda news radio is. Wait. So what's dare I ask what what this is? It's just a story from a few years ago, where, okay, so I don't know if you know this, but in North Korea, they have restaurants in other places around the world. And people like people from North Korea will go work in the restaurants.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And I guess there were these 12 waitresses who had a manager of this restaurant, and they were all working there. And he was like, Yeah, we're gonna go, it's gonna be so cool. We're gonna go to China to work in this restaurant or South korea i can't even remember which and when they left the country he was like haha psych you're defectors now and i just made 100k and they were like what like horrified and so you had these 12 women who were like we just want to go back home and their manager got paid like a hundred thousand dollars to traffic them out of the country basically it's a wild story um okay i i'm pretty sure it's by nis which is the south koreans equivalent like south korea's equivalent of like the cia or like the fbi like intelligence services but again i just cursed i was like a hasty like i remember this story i need to reread this again
Starting point is 00:14:42 so it's not super fresh in the mind. I pulled it up for later rereading. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. So you're right. We're not fully vetting anything right now. But that sounds. Wait, so they have. I didn't even realize that there are restaurants outside of North Korea that then like just
Starting point is 00:14:57 what serve as like sort of like soft propaganda centers. I think it's maybe. Yeah, they do like food. They also do like song and dance. That's like traditional to North Korea. I mean, North Korea has like a fairly open trade alliance with China. So people from North Korea go to China. Sometimes there's trade that goes back and forth between them. So I'm pretty sure the bulk of the restaurants are in China. Yeah. Oh, wow. And according to this article, the manager said he according to him, he said these tickets to get them to Malaysia were paid for by the NIS. There we go. See, my memory wasn't so bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. OK.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Interesting. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And it's controversial because some people say it didn't happen or people just don't um i don't i think people have like a really people have a this is something i've learned on the internet this week people have a real resistance to learning anything about what happens in north korea so i think it's controversial because people are like there's no way a man would be paid a hundred thousand dollars to smuggle random women out of north korea to be defectors and you're like oh that happened to this guy and he's like yeah you got me right that's wild yeah yeah americans are definitely like when it comes to like a thing that you're so like hit over the head with over the years and like, and it's this weird place where it's all messed up and it probably has nothing to do with anything America ever did.
Starting point is 00:16:15 It's just weird on its own, on its own. And then you figure shit out and you're like, wait, I think, wait, what, what, what's happening here? I don't think this is why it's weird, but okay. Go off. Yeah, our involvement is, it's like an endless source of fascination to me. So I'm always like learning new things and I'm like, what? Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Totally. What, what's something you think is underrated? Okay. Something I think is underrated is the student protests happening specifically at University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, which I'm'm not the most educated person but i had never heard of the school right had no idea and then you go on twitter and you see all this footage on your timeline of these kids at the school they kettled the police they used a cop anti-protest strategy against the cops and it was it was so wild to see him. Like I've never
Starting point is 00:17:05 even heard of the school. And these kids are just like, we see your protest tactics and we raise you. Prepare to be kettled. Prepare to be kettled police of Illinois. Yeah. There's just, there's just so much popping off at so many different universities. Like now, like the students in Columbia are like barricading themselves in the building. And like, it's, I mean, yeah. Again, like we were saying, I think yesterday's episode, it's like Joe Biden, take this seriously or not,
Starting point is 00:17:34 at everyone's peril, basically. Because it's not because people just want to fit in or whatever the fuck kind of weird articles you're seeing in the New York Times. It's because the COVID made them feel bad, Miles.ate silver was like it's like it's like more like these kids are like picking out like a fashion label and like doing that because of peer pressure and that's kind of what everyone's like tapping into and it's like jesus cool wow terribly bad faith unserious reading of what is actually happening but yeah anyway, anyway. Damn. Do the government work for them.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Shout out to the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, which I think I'm only familiar with because of basketball, maybe? I had heard that before. Anyways, what's something you think is overrated? Okay, I'm going to go with the original Star Trek series. I've been going through Star Trek in universe order, which has been a challenge. And I just got through the original series.
Starting point is 00:18:25 And I got to say, Captain Kirk is not nearly as cool as I was led to believe. Oh, really? Yeah, I think we as a society, maybe I'm late to the game on this because the show did come out 60 years ago. I'm willing to admit,
Starting point is 00:18:38 maybe I'm a little late to the game here. But I just think we as a society have surpassed the need for Captain Kirk in pop culture at all. I thought he was going to be a lot cooler. I don't know. I don't get it. I remember, like, people—I just always thought he was uncool because people just did impressions of Shatner being Kirk.
Starting point is 00:18:56 And I was like, this sounds fucking not cool to me. Like, this—he was like, I don't know. What is—I'm like, dude, what? How are you talking right now? See, that sounded by that to me yeah but then when people are like yo isn't it is he like does he have like shitty traits like he's like he's into like he's like a womanizer alienizer uh like just a man of the 60s basically yeah definitely those things i would say those are his more fun traits though if i'm being
Starting point is 00:19:23 perfectly honest. Okay, the thing that really got me is I made it all the way to the finale. And if you haven't seen the finale of Star Trek, I'm sorry, I'm going to ruin it for you. It's been 60 years. All right, spoiler alert. If it was important to you, you would have got that, right? So in the finale episode, we're supposed to be in this futuristic, progressive world, right? They've surpassed the need for violence. They've surpassed the need for violence. They've surpassed the need for money. And the final episode of the show is a woman who is, of course, Kirk's ex-lover, who is jaded
Starting point is 00:19:51 because women aren't allowed to be Starfleet captains. So she devises a way to switch brains and bodies with Captain Kirk. So her brain is in his body. So she can finally become a Starfleet captain. But of course, she gets all hysterical like women do. Right. And they find out what's happened because of this. And in the end, Captain Kirk is like, see, you try to fake your way into a job that you were unqualified for and do not have the temperament for. And I was like, whoa. I watched all of this show for the end episode to be Kirk being like, women are crazy. Women should know their place.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And the crazy that women are comes from their ovaries. So you can't fix it with brain stuff. If you go too fast in this starship, your uterus could fall out. I think that's true, actually. I'm sure that logic was presented on the show at some point. Yeah. Was the rest of the show pretty cool or just disappointing in general? Well, there were some real peak moments.
Starting point is 00:20:52 There's this one moment where they bring out what's supposed to be an alien, but it's clearly just a disgruntled Sharpay wearing a costume with a horn on it. And that was really... I've never seen that picture. That was great. I really enjoyed that. I was like, nothing could be better than this moment my nickname as a child also full disclosure was spock so i really have a soft spot
Starting point is 00:21:12 for spock obviously a man after my own heart so spock's pretty strong for sure nice was that based on your demeanor or what what where'd you get the nickname spock uh yeah apparently when i was a little kid i didn't know how to talk to people so i would just find someone interesting and tap them and start reciting facts to them yeah it's actually a lot like my eight-year-old you guys would get along super well hey spock hit him up yeah he's like your response is highly illogical. I just asked you your name. That's great. TNG, I remember watching more as a kid just because that was on
Starting point is 00:21:51 all the time. I had this bias, I think, when most kids did in the 80s and 90s. This is from back then. I'm like, nope. I don't like that. I don't like things that are black and white or look like they were shot on grainy film. But yeah, I know a lot of people that have started to watch the old series again. So maybe I'll maybe I'll maybe visually, definitely worthwhile. It's very
Starting point is 00:22:15 artistic visually. It's pretty cool. There's some shots in the original series. Like if you if you just screenshot of them, you could like con a lot of people on the internet by saying it was like some sort of conceptual artwork, you know, just sell prints of it. And I think you'd get buyers. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 00:22:31 You should do that. Yeah. And, I mean, a lot of, like, philosophical thought experiments throughout the Star Trek universe that are, you know, pretty cool. But my advice, I was a philosophy major and my philosophy advisor was like obsessed with Star Trek and like would use Star Trek all the time when like illustrating various philosophical thought experiments. So it's deep. It runs deep. The lore is deep in our society.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Yes. Yeah. Usually it was like, what if a woman tried to take control in a leadership of Starfleet? A thought experiment. You're like, sir? All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some news.
Starting point is 00:23:16 We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control
Starting point is 00:23:50 groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed
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Starting point is 00:24:35 Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss a hundred percent of the shots you never take. Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:25:38 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:25:50 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained this game is only going to get better because the talent is
Starting point is 00:26:11 getting better this new season will cover all things sports and culture listen to naked sports on the black effect podcast network iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast the black effect podcast network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And on Monday's episode, we talked about South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem's chapter from her upcoming book where she made it clear she was born sans soul now we are seeing
Starting point is 00:26:47 kind of the the fallout from that from our episode oh yeah well because that's all a result of us covering it it's exactly yes not people's reaction to hearing about someone just shooting an animal in cold blood um you know her attempt at painting herself as a gun owning like rural tough talker that will take the life of an unruly puppy uh it seems to have backfired i just can't i don't understand so i mean obviously most people's reaction to hearing this like excerpt from the book was like is this fuck fucker for real? And even like everyday pieces of shit, like Megan Kelly and Laura Loomer were also somehow mortified. Laura Loomer on Twitter said, wow, no coming back from this. This is so heartless. She killed a puppy as a dog lover.
Starting point is 00:27:35 That is just too much for me. You don't kill a dog because it's quote useless. She could have found a loving home for the dog. My dogs are the loves of my life. I would be devastated without them. You hear that, Laura Loomer? Not only does she love the great replacement theory and Islamophobia, she also loves her dogs. So, yeah, a bit of a human side there that we weren't used to seeing. And even like Janine, I'm never drunk on air. Piro couldn't also had a really hard time processing this terrible misstep from gnome here she is on fox being like she's done the impossible folks uh let's just let the former judge take it away
Starting point is 00:28:13 if you remember the judge from the robert durst case i have four rescues and i have and i have a puppy i gotta tell you you know what what she's done is she sabotaged herself, whether or not it was to, you know, buttress what was coming down the road. But she also managed to unite the right and the left, because America, if nothing else, we are dog lovers. And don't tell me you shot a pup because it wasn't used to hunting. You maybe you're not a good teacher yeah maybe there's a problem and and this whole thing with the chickens you know were the chickens dead was your dog on their property should you have had your dog on a leash should your farm have been fenced i could go on and on because i love dogs all right you heard it there folks i could go on
Starting point is 00:29:00 and on because i love dogs you know what i mean And a little bit of racist fear mongering. That had big as a father of a daughter energy. Yeah. Where it's like, I have dogs, so this upsets me, but only because I have dogs. This is my connection, not because of my ability to be like, this life may have been precious as a puppy. But yeah, like I think worst of all,
Starting point is 00:29:48 this is now revealed that Kristi Noem, it pretty much guarantees that she has no shot at being Reichsfuhrer. I'm sorry. I mean, vice president. And despite Trump famously not being into dogs, this actually did not impress him. According to someone who's talking to the New York Post, quote, Trump isn't a dog person necessarily, but I think he understands that you can't choose a puppy killer as your pick for blatantly obvious reasons. A second source told the Post that Trump, quote, likes Christie a lot, but was disappointed when hearing the dog story. So, yeah, it's just so odd. Like this thing about like Republicans, they just like they really in campaign mode, they like to go hard on the, like, I'm connected to the land and know what, like what rural life is like. And it's just like always done in like these weird ways. Like even recently, a couple of these, a few GOP candidates have been pretty loose with how they define rural America. This is an, this is an NBC quote. David McCormick, the GOP nominee for the Senate in Pennsylvania,
Starting point is 00:30:25 has long said he, quote, started with nothing and, quote, grew up on a family farm. But it turns out his father was a college president and it was more of a country estate where his mother raised Arabian horses. Another Republican Senate nominee, Tim Shee, has told Montana voters, quote, I grew up in rural Minnesota, by which he means he grew up in a multimillion dollar lake house in the suburb of St. Paul. He grew up on Saltburn, the manor from that British movie. But yeah, it's like, but like, they're like, they were foxes around. So basically, like, I grew up in the woods, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I don't honestly don't understand why the thought of like being like, yeah, and I can dispatch an animal without thinking twice is like everyone would be like, and that is a vice president right there. Right. I think that people, though, tend to double down on like, well, I'm tough and I can handle making hard decisions, you know, as though that is some like salt of the earth quality. But like, it is really interesting because the dog thing in particular, it's like, have you ever met like a rural guy on a farm he's got nothing but his dog like yeah that's all he has is his dog like no life but dog no life but dog my friend's uh dad like was a family farmer like had a farm and every picture this man has ever posted on his facebook is him with like a tiny white fluffy dog on his lap with a tractor like they're both driving the tractor together you know it's like right you're so disconnected from real life that you
Starting point is 00:31:50 don't understand yet dog for most of these people more important than other humans or even like fox news boomer facebook culture you know like these people love dogs like that's like and we were saying this the other day like it is it is true that is this weird thing america america just like we don't even give a shit about humans no care about dogs though for some reason that's like the mythology it's like no stop the puppy mill it's like do you see there's also a protest here for like needless death of children like i don't know what the fuck that is but these people at petco they're getting these puppies from a puppy mill and i will burn this place down you're like okay um no that's true we value our dogs more than human life and i mean i want to say i'm above that but again i watched john wick and i looked away at the puppy part but
Starting point is 00:32:37 at human beings getting violently shot i was like more yeah it's like well they're attached yeah it's like they're the reason a dog died yeah i'm like take yeah it's like well they're attached yeah it's like there's a reason a dog died yeah i'm like take them out i'll watch this violence but the violence against the dog i'm like oh no i can't i know it's fake but no so yeah no it's true it's like this is the the one thing we have as a country totally i knew a guy who like when i i was watching i am legend for the first time like at my house and there's that scene where Will Smith, you know, has to put his dog down. My friend left my apartment. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Like at the time. He never talked to you again. He didn't even say anything. He's like, oh, no, no, I'm not. He's like, no, I'm not doing this. And just walked out. And like, we caught it. Like, yo, where you at?
Starting point is 00:33:16 He's like, I'm on my way home, man. And I was like, oh, I'm like, you good? He's like, yeah, I just don't. He's like, I just, I can't see stuff like that. I'm like, but you could see the zombies like rip people's fucking body. Yeah, that's fine, man. I get it. We all have different sensitivity levels, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Yeah. America loves on puppy love, doesn't it? Yeah. Just there's a, yeah, there's a certain type of person who can't see the line between like, I can make really difficult decisions and like, I love to make really difficult decisions. Like, oh, yeah. I get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Just itching for a reason to make the cruelest decision possible. I've met HR people who are like, oh, yeah. Get to fire someone today. Dude, I get to fire 15 people today. It's going to be fucking sick. It's what I live for. I turn my camera off until they get on the call and i go oh hello i'm the grim reaper all right donald trump has been
Starting point is 00:34:14 fined nine thousand dollars for violating a gag order that's the only thing i've seen in the headlines they issued 10 complaints about him violating the gag order. The judge found nine of them had merit. And this is the maximum possible monetary fine. And it's a little disappointing because Donald Trump can probably make that much in one afternoon by selling, I don't know, gold painted crucifix can openers or some shit you know yeah nail clippings presumably but uh the judge did warn that going forward he will consider whether in some instances jail may be a necessary punishment and that would be entered what about look at those right fucking modifiers though like i will consider whether in some instances jail may be like, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. It might be just could be in some instances. Yeah. The appearance of might need to happen could be.
Starting point is 00:35:20 But there's there's still more violations. He hasn't even ruled on yet. Trump's violated the gag order multiple times since the prosecutor submitted their initial list of 10. And the arguments about those additional violations don't begin until Thursday. So there's always a chance that something cool happens and we get to see him have to go to prison. I do think as a nation that would be healing for us. That would just be like fun something fun we got to watch happen but i feel like the type of prison donald trump would be
Starting point is 00:35:50 going to would just be like the equivalent of that tacky gold penthouse apartment he kept showing off on the internet like it would be like a gold toilet prison yeah you think he'd have hair and makeup somehow in the i think yes i think that instead of having a cot he'd just have a tanning bed yeah yeah like a vampire that's where he would go to slumber and he would emerge orange and glorious yes i think that could be fun i do think though the nine thousand dollars thing it really puts into perspective how punishable by a fine like how people say oh that just means legal for rich people yeah exactly if i had if i had millions of dollars and someone was like uh i'm gonna find you a thousand dollars every time you do something
Starting point is 00:36:31 i don't like i'd be like like how much more can i do this so right kind of silly at that point what's like well if you order from this place has delivery fees or i don't care i'm high as shit and i'm hungry give this shit to me now. Doesn't matter. I'm not seeing that. Maybe I am being fucking irresponsible, but fuck it. Yeah, it's true. And that's what's wild is too. It's like, if that's the maximum allowed under New York law, and it's like, have you guys ever thought about progressive penalties?
Starting point is 00:37:02 Like that might be, you know, sort of tied to what a person's income is or what they're. Then we'd have something too equitable and we can't be doing that but yeah i feel like like to your point madeline's like america needs to see trump go to jail like on some level like just to be like yep and he flew too but yeah like well could you imagine like the version we get is judge mershon here is like all right that's it you're i'm fine you in contempt of court you're going to prison for two days and then also he gets out and then he becomes president and we're like fuck right i mean i feel like what we really deserve is a reality tv show of donald trump in prison for like just like three months like i feel like his main purpose is to be this kind of court jester and society as long as he's removed from like any sort of
Starting point is 00:37:45 position of power where he can make real decisions i think that the ultimate kind of like retribution we should all get in the united states is to to get a reality tv show where we watch this man in prison for a few months yeah just a little just as a treat i think we deserve that i think twitter would go off for that three month period but, the prison has to be all like not other incarcerated people. It's all actors that like are meant to fuck with him at every level possible. Like, and just, it's just a,
Starting point is 00:38:13 basically it's a whole, it's a mind fuck. It's a setup. I love it. I feel like we could get this green lit. I feel like we're in the wrong industry. We need to be in the reality TV industry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Uh, hello. Uh, can we, Merrick Garland? We have a, we have an idea for you. We need to be in the reality TV industry. Yeah. Hello? Can we... Merrick Garland? Right. We have an idea for you. The DEA is moving to reclassify marijuana, not going to declassify it and make it, you
Starting point is 00:38:35 know, like alcohol, which is a much deadlier drug and isn't classified as a drug. But they'd be moving it from the level of heroin and LSD, which is wild. Marijuana is on the same level as heroin, to the level of ketamine and some anabolic steroids. Oh. Wait, so ketamine? This is an interesting hierarchy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Okay, okay. This, this, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. So what, it's just lighter sentencing basically yeah yeah it's like you're still fucked but less so yeah it like it's still illegal it's just not as illegal right right i will say i was under the impression that marijuana was a very very light drug you know it doesn't mess you up too much. You know, I've been using edibles most of my life to treat my anxiety. I was in New York the other day, though, looking for edibles. And I ended up accidentally buying something called Delta 8.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Oh, you guys familiar with this? You're in New York, right? Delta 9? Whatever the one is that's actually supposed to be a lighter dose. They're like, we make it out of concentrated hemp. It's way milder. Yeah. I took eight milligrams of that. And I, I had to crawl to the bathroom where I was staying. I was literally like, I cannot be vertical. How is this more mild? Like, I don't understand what's
Starting point is 00:39:54 happening. So that. No, because I think Delta eight is made like with a different process than Delta nine. Like that's, I think, more chemical base, whereas Delta 9 actually comes from like cannabinoids. So like it's more like you're getting the weird chemistry set version of Delta 9 or whatever is Delta 8. At least from what I remember. It was wild. It made me think about moving those Deltas like a couple of numbers differently because that's hard to keep track of. Yeah, 8 and 9. I was like, oh my God, I need a weed guy to explain to me what just happened like where's the guy you
Starting point is 00:40:29 run into at the party who's like let me talk to you about shatter and you're like get me out of here and all of a sudden i'm like i need help where is that guy here i need help take this under your tongue it's cbd it'll help help take the edge off uh wait so you were just absolutely like you mean like your body was just put you out there basically like eight milligrams of an edible and i usually like 10 milligrams helps me mellow out and deal with my anxiety before bedtime no i took eight milligrams of this thing that was supposedly more mild and my body was like we cannot stand up now and at one point i was like i have to get to the So I like, your legs don't work anymore.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Literally. I was like crawling on the floor and it was like, I have not, I have not been this high since maybe high school. Like this is a humiliating level of high for a 37 year old adult to be. That's like some Wolf of Wall Street Quaaludes shit. Where you're like, just falling out of a car like i got in the bathroom absolutely humiliating experience i was very very humbled in that moment right well you should reach out to the dea and let them know that they're making a big mistake here
Starting point is 00:41:35 heroin delta 8 tnc absolutely the same i think yes i think same as lewds man yeah we're messing up as a country right because like is this part of like a biden let me let me give one to the kids sort of campaign item you know but it's like not just legalizing it it's like come on full just fucking go along with it yeah no i mean he's got it both sides. He's the great in-betweener. Can't piss off the cops. But yeah, this comes after President Joe Biden called for a review of federal marijuana law in October 2022, has moved to pardon thousands of Americans convicted federally of simple possession of the drug, has also called on governors and local leaders to take similar steps. The election year announcement could help Biden,
Starting point is 00:42:25 this is from the AP, a Democrat, boost flagging support, particularly among young voters. Like I said, it's pretty simple, man. Young people are pretty clear right now on just one simple trick you can do to maybe shore up your support numbers. It's not that big of a mystery. I don't think they're going to trade genocide for weed. I don't like all right that's fine we get a little weed yeah it's like but not
Starting point is 00:42:52 legalized dude it's like more like maybe like a year or something at most you know but that's still illegal still illegal we still got your back the cops we gotta give you something to do gotta give you something to do all right all right fine jack i get it i got to give you something to do. Got to give you something to do. All right. All right. Fine. Jack, I get it. I get you, man. We'll legalize gambling, man. How about that? No. No, no. Just immediate ceasefire. Immediate ceasefire. Stop harming
Starting point is 00:43:14 the Israeli government. Okay. I get you. I get you. I get you. How about this? Free Pokemon cards for everybody under 23. Pokemon? Alright, what, Yu-Gi-Oh? What is it now? Please just do the fucking
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Starting point is 00:46:44 or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. And yeah, so Dave and Buster's introducing more gambling to Dave and Buster's place that is an arcade for children presumably. I mean, I guess there's always like some adults there. Well, there's a bar and shit.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Yeah, there's a big bar in Dave and Buster's. But they won't be like sticking a roulette table between skeeball machines, but they will be allowing social wagering on games played between people. Oh shit. Over 18.
Starting point is 00:47:28 So I can't. Yeah, you can't take a kid. But you can. I can take their parents' money. Get the parents to co-sign. Proxy. It's a proxy bet. It's a proxy bet.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Hey, man, go get your mom's phone. Go get your old man over here, man. We'll have some real fun. Yeah. You have to do it through their DMV rewards app. Which, why do you need an app to make bets with friends instead of just handing someone cash and like shaking hands with them and being like, all right. Yeah. The old ways where you'd be like, I bet I could beat you in a skeeball.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Oh, yeah? Put five on it. All right. Put it up. But now we need an app. I guess the issue is nobody has cash anymore. Ever.
Starting point is 00:48:13 We got Venmo. Shit. I just fucking bet people about the fucking Arsenal game on Sunday. Light wagers. But still, just do it on Venmo.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Allegedly. They aren't arched on Venmo. So I've never been to a dave and busters i i had no idea what was i thought it was an arcade for adults initially but it's a bar so like theoretically if you got your kids and you're like you know what i hate being a parent you could just be like i'm gonna go in here get trashed while my kid plays in a ball pit is that kind of like the idea? Yeah. Or it's like, here's video games.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah. I did literally exactly what you just described about a week and a half ago. Not because you hate being a parent. You love being a parent. But sometimes you need a break. Sometimes. I think that's fine. I think that's fair.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Ordered, ordered some boneless wings. They have pretty good boneless wings there and uh watched my kids play rampage for an hour and a half oh the old school arcade game where you're like the mutant animals like fucking up the buildings and shit yeah yeah yeah i remember that's like the rock movie that came out and i was like yeah this has oh you're just using the characters and trying to shoehorn the rock into something again thanks there's a lakers game on. There was Rampage. My kid's playing Rampage.
Starting point is 00:49:27 There was a celebrity there for some reason. And yeah. I'm changing my whole position on Dave & Buster's immediately then. I think maybe Dave & Buster's is the third space our society has been sorely lacking. And I think we should just have a Dave & Buster's on every corner. This is actually making me under, this is actually a pro family environment. We need more places where you can bring your kids and drink and gamble simultaneously all across the United States.
Starting point is 00:49:53 You hear that Vegas? We need a mini Vegas on every corner. I like it. Exactly. We need, people need relief, man. So just let their kids go fight over how many tickets are going to come out
Starting point is 00:50:04 of the little coin pusher game that everyone that you always think you're going to win. Yeah. Everything's a racket. But yeah, like now they're definitely like making themselves to be like, hey, man, it's also like it's it's a fun place to have a date. Like you can eat and you can play get the eat and play combo. Yeah, that's yeah. That's like their new their new like I want to say I'm above that, but also I go to Barcade. I think really this is just selling me on Dave & Buster's, and I think I need to become a Dave & Buster's person.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Barcade has a distinctly different vibe than Dave & Buster's. You will go to Dave & Buster's and you're like, I'm in consumer hell. It's a lot of birthday parties. It's already just pulsating with anxiety and the screams of children
Starting point is 00:50:49 where you can't tell if they're delighted screams or just someone's being taken. So my 38th birthday, that's where I'm doing it. Yeah, do a takeover with adults. Do that thing where, like, you ever been to an arcade as a kid and a bunch of adults come in and you're like, they shouldn't be here this is like our kid space yeah and you like
Starting point is 00:51:08 the vibe shifts just do that the day from buster one of my kids birthday parties that we had at an arcade it was like all their friends from kindergarten and then a guy with like a leather duster and one leather glove on his hand who was just there like playing this one i've one video game over and over and over again it's just like a professional he's just like all right like got there early with his cup of coffee and just just went to work wow i am now humiliated to discover i've probably been this leather jacket one glove man at various points in my life, especially the Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk Ms. Pac-Man machine. Oh, yep. There you go.
Starting point is 00:51:48 An unhealthy obsession with that thing for a while. Lovely boardwalk, though, gotta say. Beautiful. So this is part of a boom in betting that they've found increases engagement among sports fans. Digital gamification could have a similar
Starting point is 00:52:04 effect within Dave & Buster's customer base. But the amount of money they're making, let me find the exact figure. So U.S. commercial gaming revenue, which includes sports betting, online gambling, slots, and table games, reached $49.9 billion in the first 10 months of 2022, up 14.7% from the same period in 2021 so year-over-year revenue reached an all-time high in 2022 so they're just like all that legal betting all the fact that there's like gambling commercials on tv during like sporting events like is working which makes sense like of course it is. Yeah. It's interesting. This company that's doing it,
Starting point is 00:52:46 it's called Lucra. Like, okay, I get it. It's because it's lucrative. Yeah. And it's like, miles drop the tiff.
Starting point is 00:52:55 It's clean. Oh yeah. Hey, what about tiff, man? No, man, it's lucra.
Starting point is 00:53:00 All right. All right. I still think tiff is a pretty cool name. Cause he gave me anything, but yeah, started by two former Goldman Sachs guys. Yeah. And they're just like, but again, like this is like what's really infuriating about it.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Like with one hand, like sports betting, you understand how that works. Where this one, it's like, what exactly is the service you're providing? We're careful not to use the term bet or wager. We are because that makes us subject to licenses and regulations gambling. So what are you? We merely facilitate real money contests or challenges. Oh, those are my favorite things. Real money contests or challenges.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Yeah. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. That's perfect. I love doing that. And I love doing that and i love doing it on an app that ostensibly takes a fee yes we're doing it yes i'm assuming what is their cut on this how much five percent five percent of every winning winner like when somebody wins they lose
Starting point is 00:53:59 five percent on it and it's all just again could be replaced with a brief conversation and a handshake but instead people get to use this social media app it just feels like super clunky though too you know you know what i mean like because the way already if you're like a degenerate and you already like trying to find action on like anything like you're like what about skeeball dude you want to fucking do you want to gamble on that like you're not gonna be like all right sign into lucra all right now find me all right oh oh there's another person miles gray all right here let me get my qr code yeah okay like a grinder for people with gambling problems you know yeah but also like who around me would be willing to wager on whether this coin comes up heads three times in a row right it's just like
Starting point is 00:54:46 a weird i i get like on paper why they think this is like the wave but i also just feel like we always talk about frictionless transactions this is introducing way too much friction into just like uh people social wagering or doing real life money challenges over fucking the hoop hot shot hoops game. Yeah. The app has like push-ups, can jam, bar games, board games, fitness.
Starting point is 00:55:16 So you can like, NBA 2K is like the top trending game. What was the second one you read off? Can jam. What is that? It's this thing where you have cans and you're trying to throw a frisbee into a slot. It's like
Starting point is 00:55:31 part of this new generation of games people have just invented, but then everyone's like, oh, hell yeah. Dude, I fucking love Can Jam. Oh, hell yeah. I love Can Jam. Yeah. It's just like carnival games. Okay, yeah. This kind of reminds me of when everybody was really into like disc golf. Yeah. Like frisbee golf. And you're like, what is and it was so popular for like a year and then just still popular.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Is it popular? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's like a like a frall frisbee golf spot near like this part. I go to a town and there are people do there's people there every fucking like on the weekends in the morning like it's like we're gonna get can jam courses soon yeah i mean it's in our parks yeah it is kind of fun because you can like for like smash the and it's just a frisbee game that you can just do low stakes it It's easy to understand. But yeah, we love a new we love a new backyard game in this country. I just got fucking cleaned
Starting point is 00:56:28 out on Candyland, you guys. On Lucra, bro? Yeah, Lucra. I owe my next three paychecks because I just got on a real bad run where I kept drawing that ice cream cone one, even
Starting point is 00:56:44 though I was like right at the end. So it just kept taking me back there. Yeah. That's why I only do shoots and ladders, man. So I got my Lambo. You're one of the greats. Pushing that Lambo because it shoots and ladders, bro. People, people said it couldn't be done, man. And anyway, just so just for all the listeners, you can take my course I'm offering right now on Instagram. I'll show you the secrets on how to use Lucra for, so you could also have a Lambo. I was actually just wondering. Climbing the chutes and ladders.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Yeah. Yeah. If you had some sort of online course, I could spend roughly $199 on for like a 30 minute YouTube video. So I'm so glad to know. Madeline, Madeline, I'm so glad you asked. Climbing the parentheses chutes and parentheses ladder to success. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:57:24 But I'm glad you asked. Actually, I'm not one of these people who's trying to gouge people for some kind of impersonal scam thing. Like you said, $199? No way. For $99. What?
Starting point is 00:57:38 That's a great deal. I should probably sign up now. $99, you will get a link to a tick tock playlist of some videos. I just kind of threw together, but it's an exclusive videos. It explains my whole philosophy. Next week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Oh, you will. You will. I'm going to have to pull you into the Dave and busters. Are you good at any video games? Like, do you think there is something like you feel confident enough? You're like,
Starting point is 00:58:03 yo, I'll put 20 on that. I mean, yeah, but they're all outdated games like the games i'm really good at was stuff you played like on nintendo in the 80s you know duck hunt so the duck hunt great the one game though that it's like i'm so good at it it stopped being cool and became embarrassing is mario kart like oh you can tell people socially sometimes people would be like oh haha you have a Switch. Do you want to play Mario Kart?
Starting point is 00:58:28 And it's so bad I have to do a preamble. I have to be like, okay, we could play Mario Kart, but there's some things you gotta know. It's not gonna be fun for you, number one. Number two, I can handicap myself in the game to make it fun for you. It's so
Starting point is 00:58:44 embarrassing. And the worst part is people like oh haha cool you're good and then you play and then it reaches this awkward moment where i'm just like laughing destroyed everyone and i have to sit there and wait for them to finish and it's like not cool it's like kind of pathetic everyone looks at you like i can tell you did this for many hours in lieu of forming real bonds with human beings. Have you played the arcade version of Mario Kart? No, my God, I'm afraid. They have a full sit down with a steering wheel. It's like really fun.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Anyway, so what do you want to do? I'm going to be doing that. I'm going to be cleaning up. Yeah, let's go. Who do you race with? Who do you race with? What character do you race with? Oh, what character?
Starting point is 00:59:23 Well, you got to go with the midway characters. So if you play on the switch you can play with yourself with your me because it's a midway yeah yeah yeah yeah but otherwise yeah you want to stick to like mario's a mid-weight character you know yeah i got the whole because so embarrassed god it's humiliating i have the whole build i do on the vehicle for perfect balance like it's like it's real embarrassing this yeah but that's the thing certain things it's like when you go to karaoke and you watch someone and they're like so good at karaoke it starts to get a little depressing you're like right oh you should have done this with your life yeah this is important to you you're good at it like things
Starting point is 01:00:00 could have gone differently for you but like yeah you work in accounting you know right like it's like that it's at a certain point you're so good at things that it's just kind of sad and the ad is unfortunately me with mario kart yeah their whole demeanor changes as they sing the first lines of i will always love you yeah they're like oh my god okay oh no no get out of here yeah like the the people are coming in crying they're like you're not even part of this party but that i the thing with mario kart it's so funny like i was playing with my nieces and nephews who are like just get like they have a switch and like i'm really good at mario kart and i i did the opposite of you i said oh okay i haven't played in a minute and i'm like you
Starting point is 01:00:41 stupid stupid stupid young child. I got you right where I want you. And the first time I did the boost on them, like off the starting line, they were like, what? And I'm like, I've been down since 1992. Don't even attempt to get with me. The boost is how you time it with the. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:08 It's all margins baby when you're racing i learned that from formula one you know and yeah i like and i fuck with luigi you know if you're not drifting you're not winning that's just how it goes using the brake so drifting is a part of it because i thought I was pretty good by the time I was done playing N64 Mario Kart for a while. So drifting, do the boost. I think I know those two tricks. Anything else that I should know? You want your build to be really solid. You want to go with a mid-weight driver, a mid-weight vehicle, and then you want to do a heavyweight tire and a lightweight.
Starting point is 01:01:42 They have this umbrella thing attached. I don't really understand the function of the umbrella if i'm being perfectly honest but yeah i have found this is the ultimate build and again this is very this is not making me look cool at all this is one of those things where it's like you're too invested in this for a person of your age we all we all have that like i have video games too where i'm like putting hours of my life away and my partner her majesty she'll be like what are you doing like i gotta get all the characters to look the right way she's like have you played yet i'm like no
Starting point is 01:02:16 i can't until they look right but yeah i mean that's fair i think that's that's real yeah look you know games are important to people in different ways so who am i to judge especially with a game like mario kart where i'm i always like to it's always interesting to see the people who are like no i i get down with the cart so yeah all right all right got some ideas for next time you're on so i yeah and i do have some money making opportunities awaiting me at dave and busters which which is good to know. You could, actually. The games that you can play for tickets have a certain number of lights, a certain color of lights around them at the Dave and Buster's that I was going to.
Starting point is 01:02:54 And my kids played the ones that you couldn't win tickets on. And it was hugely disappointing to everybody involved. So there's a little pro tip for you. By the way, uh like experts are saying that america's gambling problem exacerbated by like the convenience of apps is a ticking time bomb and yeah i'm sure i'm sure it'll be fine but oh yeah dude i love that song from rancid like 49..9 billion is so many lost bets. That's like such a massive, like that's all it is. That's all money being made off of people losing bets.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Right. Same thing as like when you think of like a crypto millionaire too. Yeah. Right, right, right, right. That's where the money came from. It's definitely a sign that an economy is going really, really well, I think. Just a society in general. Yeah, like debt is going up.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I think that's good. And you have to win the lottery to be like, and now I can treat my illnesses. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Speaking of which, one of the big Powerball winners is a cancer patient. So it was a 1.3 billion Powerball jackpot. And a immigrant from Laos was the big winner, is taking a lump sum of $422 million after taxes, splitting it with a friend,
Starting point is 01:04:15 and claimed that he wants to now, quote, find a good doctor with the money. Despite media reports that this is a heartwarming story, winning the Powerball jackpot should in no way be a prerequisite for accessing life-saving health care. But it's like one of those things where it's like teachers are buying their own. Or like this millionaire noticed that his kid's public school didn't have books. So he bought it. Isn't that cool? Isn't that heartwarming? Yeah. Isn't that cool isn't that heartwarming yeah i guess yeah wow such an american story it really is especially considering that the person immigrated from laos which is like the most heavily bombed country on the planet thanks to the united states
Starting point is 01:04:57 so it's like okay we destroyed your country come over here right win the lottery to get access to life-saving care it's just like this who knows what kind of chemicals you may have been exposed to in laos like if you're born there because there's still just a fuck ton of unexploded munitions just littered everywhere because they're just like yeah fuck it man just dump it in laos keep it moving yeah and people are still finding them to this day yeah it's really it's, it's just like, here's a horror. Here's a horror. Here's a horror. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Back to back compounding horrors. Wow. I mean, but it is sad that the like feel good story thing kind of works on you. Right. Cause I was like, Oh, my first instinct, like, well, at least a cancer patient won the money. And you're like, God, this is so bleak. Right. And it's like, you know how many other people have cancer and are currently trying to treat it and are probably in a similar situation? It's like, that's where you're just like horrified. And I think anyone who's had an intersected with cancer and their family or lives just knows how like, just fucking awful like it is and how destructive it is like at every level, emotionally, physically, everything. And you're like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:01 emotionally, physically, everything. And you're like, yeah. And like, just to think that the relief that this person experienced in the midst of all that is like, well, I won 422 million. So now I can have a good doctor. Like, we're going to buy an island. It's like, I want medical care. Yeah. These are the small wins we get in America.
Starting point is 01:06:19 At least it wasn't like a hedge fund billionaire who won the jackpot. He's like, I found a system for buying up all the tickets. Right. Yeah. It's like for $15,000, you're guaranteed to net 30 at least. It's like, oh, wait. Well, Madeline, it's been a pleasure having you back on the Daily Zeitgeist. Thanks for having me back.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Yeah, of course. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? too my username there is gene gray like the x-men character yes but gray is in gray goods used to make apparel g-r-e-i-g-e so those are the best places to find me and of course you can check out my book i survived capitalism and all i got was this lousy t-shirt and if you like it you can come see me in person in may in philadelphia brooklyn or santa cruz good spread of cities i'm like santa Cruz. Yeah. You mentioned Santa, like you're talking about the boardwalk. Why Santa Cruz? Well, when I was a teenager, like many teenagers do, I ran away with a drug dealer to live in Santa Cruz.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Charming six month period of my life, you know, worked out about as well as you can imagine. Fun memories of that boardwalk though. Yeah, sure. I can. Yeah. Just dissociating on drugs and trying to figure out where it all went right. Playing Ms. Pac-Man for hours with my one leather glove. Yeah, and a duster on. By the way, I think Pac-Man is one of the things, one of the places you can, I don't know if you can bet on it, but you can buy tickets, which will allow you to exchange those tickets for like Nerf goods. So that's a pretty cool exchange rate. Okay. Good.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Yeah. Yeah. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying Madeline? You know what? I've been really enjoying the fallout TV show. That's what we're hearing. We've heard that a couple of places. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:08:20 I'm really enjoying that. And the other, I don't know if you could call it a work of media or not. I have been really loving John Cusack's Twitter. If anybody's not up on that, it's the ongoing radicalization of Comrade Cusack is what I call that. And that is a really enjoyable ride. Oh, wow. Because he was like kind of right wing for a while, wasn't he?
Starting point is 01:08:39 He was like really centrist. And then like over the course of the past two years on Twitter, you've seen him be like, oh, I'm more left leaning than that. And then now he's full on just like free Palestine. He's fired now. Release the children from these police. Like, yeah, he's really I'm like Comrade Cusack. What? He's one step from the revolution, man.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Yeah. Yeah. And it's always funny, too, when people are like, I used to think you were a good actor. But now I realize you're one of these talentless people. And he's like, fuck off. And you're like, wow. All right. Cue sack.
Starting point is 01:09:11 I did just rewatch Better Off Dead. It's a good one. Amazing. Miles, where can people find you as their work media you've been enjoying? Yeah. Find me on Twitter, Instagram and the like, wherever at symbols are served, at Miles of Gray. You can find Jack and I on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack at Mad Boosties.
Starting point is 01:09:32 And if you like just a break from the reality of our reality, well, check me out talking about reality television. When I talk 90 Day Fiance on 420 day fiance with sophia alexandra a tweet i like just this guy on youtube awful coaching he's his videos are so cathartic for me as a laker fan who just had to watch his lakers just fall apart just just so consistently against the nuggets his videos he does like just just like play-by-play analysis on where everything's going wrong, and he screams about it with the intensity of a thousand suns, and I always appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Here's just a snippet of him screaming about just the last game. This is handoff. What else are you going to do? You've got to switch it. You do nothing. Jamal, look at this. Jamal Murray comes right off the handoff. That's your defense on the first possession.
Starting point is 01:10:27 He does like nine-minute videos that are just, again, they are healing for me, and I love it because it's also like really good analysis, but it's just this delivery of like screaming. Like I'm also worried about his health. But anyway, awful coaching. Love your videos. worried about his health but anyway awful coaching i love your videos you can you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien tweet i've been enjoying so in response to kanye tweeting i will
Starting point is 01:10:56 never make a diss record uh ryan pequin p-e-q-u-iN, tweeted, when Mario starts to doubt himself during a speed run, I will never make a diss record. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I just enjoyed that. A little Italian. It's called Italian humor. And then Kyle Ayers, former guest, just put what we were talking about with Seinfeld,
Starting point is 01:11:23 you know, and put it really well. So Variety tweeted, Jerry Seinfeld says TV comedy is being hurt by, quote, the extreme left and PC crap and people worrying so much about offending other people. It used to be you would go home at the end of the day. Most people would go, oh, Cheers is on. Oh, MASH is on. Oh, Mary Tyler Moore, blah, blah, blah. Anyways, Kyle, quote, tweeted that and said, imagine how embarrassing this take would be if the other creator of Seinfeld had made one of the funniest shows of all
Starting point is 01:11:52 time that had no worry about offending people and ended this literal month. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.
Starting point is 01:12:12 We'll link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yeah, I'm just going to still keep telling people to listen to OMA. This band is just just so good again like people playing live instruments but playing like seminal hip-hop instrumentals it just always just makes me feel great uh so this time let's do uh just you know one of my favorite j dilla beats the run-in beat for the far side so this is run-in by the band oma so you can take that listen to it and feel a little brazilian hip-hop vibes in your spirit there go all right we will link off to that in the footnotes the daily zeitgeist is a production
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