The Daily Zeitgeist - San Francisco Police State, Oz The Whack And Sourful 07.22.22

Episode Date: July 22, 2022

In episode 1293, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, actor, and co-host of The Boss Bitch Show, Kirsten O'Brien, to discuss… SF ousted a progressive DA and is now ushering in a surveillance state…, Checking in With Dr. Oz’s Garbage Campaign and more! SF Ousted a Progressive DA and Is Now Ushering In a Surveillance State… Checking in With Dr. Oz’s Garbage Campaign Snooki got dragged into the Pennsylvania Senate race to troll Dr. Oz Dr. Oz Says 'MAGA Movement Is Dying' While His Campaign Trails Democrat in Fundraising for Pa. Senate Race John Fetterman reveals undisclosed heart condition that led to stroke Where in the world is Dr. Oz? LISTEN: One Spliff A Day by Billy BoyoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 246, episode 5 of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Friday, July 22nd, 2022, which means it's solar flare day, because all of our technology is fucking up on the daily zeitgeist. This will be the first episode we've ever recorded where I can't gaze into Miles' eyes.

I am calling in. I don't even know why I have my video up, to be honest. But I think I'm doing that just to maintain some semblance of stability to the show at the moment. But it's not just solar flare day. It's also good news. It's National Hammock Day, and it's also National Mango Day. Okay, so just enjoy your mango in a hammock, you know, and get down. Oh, that sounds really good.

That is the rare day that, like, paints a complete picture of the type of day you should be having. The hammock with the mango. Hell yeah. All right. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, aka Scrapple with some cheese. Stomach starts to stir, starts to stir. The whole plate got me feeling unsure. Can't eat no more. Can't eat no more. Might poop my drawers to the potty. I go, go, go, go, go. That is courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi,

Maine at Waffle House. Little Apple Bottom Jeans take on Greta's from a couple days ago. Greta's Scrapple Melt recommendation and what it would make me do to my drawers. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined,

as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Subway tuna might have turtles. Subway tuna might have turtles. Subway tuna might have turtles. Turtles in my footlong, I devour. That's Waffle House.

That Waffle House. Christy, I'm a Gucci man. Hitting the fucking exacta today with two aka's from the tip top also there are some great subway tuna aka's i seize you they will be addressed i seize you all so just don't worry we'll get there in good time the turtle really really did i feel like we were right to highlight uh the turtle in the tuna, subway tuna, seafood trawler mash. Exactly. I think because that's the thing that sticks out.

It's like, you know, just the idea of a turtle being in the subway tuna is enough to get the conversation going. Well, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined by an actor, comic writer and dancer whose new podcast, The Boss Bitch Show Podcast, just dropped five episodes on all our asses last week. It's Kirsten O'Brien! Kirsten! Oh my God. Thank you guys so much for having me. I am sweating my tits off for various reasons. Yeah.

It's the solar flare. It's the technology. Yeah, everyone's having tech issues today, but we're making it through. It's the solar flare. It's the technology. Yeah, everyone's having tech issues today, but we're making it through. We're making it through. And Kirsten, we are not related as far as I know, correct? Not yet.

Okay. All right. Just wanted to know what that means. I think pending DNA tests. Yes, pending DNA tests. You know, listen, the Irish really got around at the turn of a couple centuries ago. And I have a lot of Jack O'Briens in my family already.

You're kidding me. I do. Of course I do. We're Irish. I can count three. What do you think the most common male name with O'Brien as the last name is? Is it Jack or Pat? Because I feel like I hear a lot of Pat O'Brien as the last name is. Is it Jack or Pat? Because I feel like I hear a lot of Pat O'Briens too.

Ooh, I'm going to challenge you there and say it's John. Right, right, right. It's probably John O'Brien. Which is my name, actually. I am John O'Brien and go by Jack just to differentiate myself by taking the second most common name. Yes. You know, some people just name their kids Jack now. Like, they don't even do the John.

Isn't that crazy? Are they insane? It's a mess. What's wrong with them? Jack is a nickname. It's what you call people when you're asking them how to open PDF. It's not a real name that you give them. How do you open PDF, Jack? Well, the Jack O'Briens in my family are very cool.

One of them was a CIA sniper. What the fuck? One of them is my second cousin, I believe, who I've never met. And then the other one is my nephew, who's two years old. Okay. Yeah. I like the two-year-old yeah you said this first one was a did you say a cia sniper correct i don't even think they're supposed to have those

not on the books right yeah yeah not not not out in the open wow it's a fun story he's just somebody who's who you don't know what their job is. But then like when you take him skeet shooting, he like shoots the skeet and then like shoots all the pieces of the skeet as they're falling to the ground. And you're like, huh? Okay. What do you do? I do data entry in Virginia. Uh huh. Uh huh. Okay, got it. And sometimes I do client work abroad in the Middle East. I don't know. Look, don't ask a lot of questions. Hey. Sometimes they need me to enter data in the Middle East. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I think growing up, the story was that he worked in insurance. You know, whatever. Insuring the future of capitalism. There you go. At 100. Oh, my God. All right. Well, Kirsten, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. There you go. San Francisco is headed after they ousted their progressive district attorney.

You know, they were like they they just bought into that. They got scared off by the CVS wave of, you know, shoplifting. And we're like, we got to get this guy out of here. And yeah, it's bad. It looks like good alternatives. Yeah, looks it's very dark timeline. Well, would you like me to chime in on this when we get to it? For sure. Right now, we're just just given the headline, telling the people, giving them a little sneak peek. But you could give them a sneak peek of what you want to what you're going to chime in with. about how San Francisco became a failed city. And I think like the concern is a lot about crime and theft and protecting corporations, absolutely. But I think another huge part of it is the drug problem

and overdoses and death from overdose. So it was a very interesting article and really sad. Yeah, I think we'll get into like kind of how like very real problems can be you know manipulated for not the best intentions because if you're really trying to help people there's a way to do that certainly yeah this is the first time i've ever done the podcast and just heard miles's voice instead of looking at him and i'm uh transfixed what a voice on this man. We're going to check in with Dr. Oz's garbage campaign, all of that, plenty more. But first, Kirsten, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? The name Guy Palmieri. Now, let me explain why I searched this name, Guy Palmieri. I was trying to name my new palm tree that I bought because I killed Vera Wang. Unfortunately, my aloe vera plant kicked the dust, kicked the bucket, and I wanted to name my new palm tree. And I was

convinced that Guy Palmieri is an actual person but I think I'm just thinking of Guy Fieri to be honest I think you're conflating Guy Fieri and Chaz Palminteri maybe yeah I think I think you got Chaz Palminteri in there for sure so so the big question is now first of all I could not find Guy Palmieri. There's no significant person. Sorry if your name is Guy Palmieri, but you're not significant enough for the Internet. This person does not exist. So now the big question is, do I name my palm tree Guy Palmieri anyways? Or do I name it Guy Fieri?

Or do I name it Chaz Palminteri? That's, I think you got to go with Guy Palminieri. That sounds like a work of poetry that just like came full formed out of your unconscious mind. Yeah. It's certainly the stupidest choice. Yeah, Guy Palminieri is great. I think Guy Palminieri is the one. So that's what I Googled. That's the kind of time I have on my hands. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, Guy Palmieri is great. is or was kind of i was like was he on the sopranos like is this a character from the

sopranos that i like can't put my finger on and like can't picture his face hence the google search and i was like this has got to be a real person but yeah not a significant one it turns out i'm willing to put my money on that it was a conflation of guy fieri and chas palm and terry for sure oh my god my brain oh my poor brain chas fieri is kind of a cool name too yeah or chas fieri i don't know if you saw the thread of celebrity names with their first initials swapped, but I can't not think of that every time I hear a celebrity name. That's hysterical. I love it. Yeah.

Oak Jabrian is mine. It kind of sucks. But I will. I'm going to say right now that I totally thought Guy Palmieri was a real name. Thank you. Like when you said it, I was like, okay. So Kirsten was looking up a Sopranos actor. Yeah.

It has the ring of a real fake name. Like something someone named themselves after they saw the Sopranos, maybe. After they saw The Sopranos, maybe. Like you could totally meet someone and be like, oh, my God, I love that actor from The Sopranos, Guy Palmieri. And the person would be like, oh, I think I know who you're talking about. Right. When really, I think the only Guy Palmieri we see is a real estate consultant in Livermore, Maine. Yes, that's the one I found.

And I was like, that's not the one I'm thinking of. That's definitely not the guy I'm thinking of. Right. What is something that you think is underrated, Kirsten? Eating all your meals in your bed. I think that is highly underrated. Listen, I'm very blessed to have an eat-in kitchen in my apartment. Do I use it? Rarely. I mean, when you've got a down comforter and like your dog and you can be horizontal while like shoveling a salad into your mouth from the 24-hour grocery store. I mean, that's living.

mouth from the 24 hour grocery store. I mean, that's living. That's living. I mean, I love eating in bed, but my wife, Her Majesty will not. She's like, this disgusting fool. Like, get out of here. Eating a slice of pizza in bed. It's disgusting. I'm like, this is luxury. Okay. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying it's luxurious. I'm saying it's so enjoyable. Is it sanitary? not no but you know can we have any joy anymore you know i need some joy in my life what are you watching while you're while you're eating in in bed oh my god barry has blown my mind do you guys watch barry oh yeah i

still have the finale left though because everyone's like the finale and i'm like okay based on everyone's reaction to it i don't know if i'm ready for it yet but i'll get to it it's so fucking brilliant so incredibly brilliant i mean to first of all i try to not watch shows that are super violent just because it like traumatizes me i think like our country is violent enough like i don't need to like watch shows that are super violent just because it like traumatizes me. I think like our country is violent enough. Like I don't need to like watch it on my free time. Right.

But this show is so violent. And yet it's it's balanced so well with the comedy that like I don't mind it. But I will say this last season was particularly violent. Oh and like oh oh yeah but just such a good show such a great show i'm sorry to derail the conversation like i always do on this show but i'm curious kirsten where did you didn't grow up in missouri did you absolutely not okay because there was a guy there was a guy Palmieri who was running, who was, I guess, somewhat prominent in Joplin, Missouri. So I was thinking maybe that would happen. I can't let go of guy Palmieri right now. I'm sorry. No, don't, don't let go of him. Hold on to him forever. Listen, that is very weird. Speaking of zeitgeist,

because there's a whole Joplin, Missouri subplot in Barry. So that's a little weird. I got to say that's very weird. Whoa. You know what? God works in mysterious ways on a Friday. Yeah. And this is what God is up to right now is finding interesting little coincidences to put into the first act of the Daily Zeitgeist. I feel like Guy Palmieri

could be a hearts of palm salad with bacon and cheddar over it made by Guy Fieri. And again, you're bringing it all together by bringing up a palm, which is the plant that I wanted to name Guy Palmieri. So, you know, God does work in mysterious ways. I think he wants us to find the Guy Palmieri in Joplin, Missouri. And I don't know, maybe it's a second coming. Like, I don't know what's happening. I bet Guy Fieri has a restaurant in Joplin, Missouri. And maybe we can reach out to that restaurant and pitch them the Guy Palmieri

hearts of palm. Salad. Smothered in bacon. The smothered Guy Palmieri. The smothered salad. Absolutely. Smothered. Smothered is like,

I always, anytime that adjective is being used on food, I'm like, I'm going to enjoy this. Oh, yeah. Because they've used an adjective that is only otherwise used in murder. Really? Right.

I mean, you are murdering your arteries if there is smother in the name of the food item. And you are definitely at an American chain restaurant. Yeah. It's either a Chili's or, I mean, so many delicious other choices. Yeah. Yeah. Smothered freedom fries. Yeah.

How do you want your headstone when you die? I want my headstone smothered and covered. That's right. Which one is smothered? Do we remember? Isn't smothered with the country gravy? Oh, yeah. And is gross the best one we're talking of course about waffle house yeah tater tots or hash browns my bad have you ever been to a Waffle House.

Because the few times I'm in Waffle House country, it's usually like I'm eating breakfast to get on the road somewhere versus I was getting fucked up in town and I hit the Waffle House. Yeah. My only relationship to Waffle House is from college. So I guess that tracks. relationship to Waffle House is from college. So I guess that tracks. The Waffle House Smothered and Covered is diced onions and then smothered in onions

covered in melted cheese. I've been to places where they use smothered and covered to describe country gravy with other stuff. So that's like the real fucked up version. Smothered and onions feels aggressive. I would have gone with a different one. And like capped

does not feel aggressive enough in my opinion anyways kirsten what is something you think is overrated uh having children and i'm so sorry if either of you have um to say that if either of you have made that choice but you know i think it's a you know, I think it's a big ruse. I think it's a big ruse of capitalism at this point. And, you know, it's just another way to keep the economy going. I don't know. I have a very poor outlook on, like, bringing more human beings into this mess. Does that—do you know what I mean?

Like, between— I mean, not to be super dark, but between like climate change and like school shootings. Like, I don't. Oh, like, I just it's like being at a terrible fucking party and then inviting everyone to come and be like, no, come. Right. Yeah. I do have four kids. I have a four year old-old and a six-year-old i will

say we went into it very eyes wide open that we were just aiming to create a couple of consumers you know more consumers to fuel uh the late stage capitalism market economy and mainly their main you know i read them ad copy for their bedtime stories. And the raw report. I know. And here's the thing. My issue is not with children. Children are beautiful and wonderful.

And these innocent little souls. It's the bringing them in that I have a very sad outlook on. I would liken it to being on a ride, being in line for a ride at a carnival. And as you wait in line, you're seeing the ride fling people off and get horribly injured. And then you get closer to your turn and you're like, yeah, I think this is fine to bring a kid on to. I think maybe we'll be one of the ones that don't get flung off but yeah and you're just like well i've been waiting in this line for so long like now i have to get on the ride you know i mean yeah you're like well not everyone gets

flung off terribly so yeah let's roll the dice kid i know it's a it's a it's a tricky one it is a tricky one you know as long as long as you know what you're doing you're like you you're you're here to create a couple guzzlers of baja blast you're gonna be okay you're never gonna be disappointed and yeah i don't know yeah it is i mean best that's to pluck with that. It's a bummer. There's also like the world is statistically pretty safe compared to like even when probably we were born. But it's definitely unjust and has lost its tether on reality. And we're headed for a complete disaster that we seem incapable of kind of coping with at the at the moment so it is kind of like a bet that we'll figure this shit out which i've always been optimistic you know it's like you know when they pull like young americans

or you know 25 to 40 it's like one of their top stressors is climate change. Yeah. Like. Yeah, for sure. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. Like, I think about that too. Oh, man. No, I was legitimately thinking about climate change this morning, walking my dog and, like,

sweating through my clothes and i'm like was it always like this you know and i'm in new york city and we've been having these insane rainstorms that like flood the subways like the subways the subways look like something out of like uh like a crazy action film where like you you're going to see like an alligator in there because they are completely flooded. It actually looks exactly like the Universal Studio Tour when the tram pulls up to a subway station

that has a fucking flood come through it. And you're like, the exact same visuals that like always, I feel like are evoked in my memory when I see that. I'm like, that's a Universal Studios attraction. Right. And like I have, I've lived here, I've lived in New York City for 15 years.

And I'm like, was it always like this? Like, was this always an issue? Like, were we always like having people wade through waste deep water to like get out of the subway platform? I don't know. Yeah. I don't think so platform i don't know yeah i don't think so i mean i think i don't think so yeah the other side of it too it's like oh here's a preview of what our infrastructure looks like when the inevitable arrives oh my god all right yeah let's take a quick break and we'll be back and talk about, you know, how we can deal with this new reality we find ourselves in.

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And about a month ago, San Francisco ousted a progressive district attorney, Chesa Boudin. Chesa Boudin. I always want to pronounce his name like he's, like I am suddenly Cajun. Yeah. No, it'd be as Boudin. I'm just saying if you want to get, you know, if you want to go down the buskios with it, then that's that sausage they call Boudin. Boudin.

Anyways, I remember seeing the right-wing media slash a lot of the mainstream media the day after he was ousted in a like recall just like loving it just loving to tell the story of like this guy lost the city he's he's a you know he's a mess the city's a mess they've just like crime is out of control and then finding a handful of people who actually were looking at the economy and the pandemic. But anyways, we are now at the afterlife of that of that event. And the D.A. who's been brought in less less progressive, I guess we could say. Yeah. Well, I mean, this is the thing we've talked about, right? Like there was all this hand wringing and pearl clutching, like the crimes out of control.

But again, criminologists and people whose business it is to look at those things are like the three years that Boudin served as a DA. They were actually declining or stable rates of like many crimes, like, you know, homicide and things like that. like, you know, homicide and things like that. But like you're saying, the fix was on when like the money, you know, property owning people of San Francisco are like, let's get this guy out because he's being a little too humane with his, you know, sense of justice. So they got once he's been out, it ousted. It's time for the new regime to come in. There's a new D.A. that's come in.

And now the D.A.'s office has purged all of, you know, Boudin's old staff. And, oh man, the alternative that is being proposed isn't just like about slightly tweaking like minimum sentences or things like this. They're talking about mass surveillance. Let me just read this from the Daily Beast. It says, quote, under the latest policy proposed by a newly emboldened police department and backed by Mayor London Breed in the new DA's office, cops would be able to watch residents in real time during a, quote, significant event with public safety concerns as part of, quote, investigations relating to both active misdemeanors as well as felonies. The cameras available for access would include those with a variety of both low and high level capabilities everything from commercial to private doorbell cameras could ultimately be employed to keep tabs on possible crimes so and that's without like granting access like that that's without them coming and being like hey can we use your doorbell they just have access that

would be like a policy that i think the police department would decide if an event is arising to the quote significant event with public safety concerns but like if it's a misdemeanor but active public say like what are we saying what are the definitions here and i think what's really interesting is this is how quickly you can go from having a progressive da to full-blown surveillance state right like supporters of this new policy talk about how this will help the cops quote curb the chaos of drug deals and robberies and that's all bullshit like if are they are they are they proposing like a crime prevention thing where people are monitoring every single camera in real time no if anything they're talking about so they

have evidence where a lot of this footage can be accessed after the fact so it's not like spying on everyone's fucking ring camera is going to be the new method of policing and i think this is again we're already living in a time where our privacy is under tremendous threat and you look at what's happening with dob's decision and the overturning of roe like privacy is a huge issue and And we're already seeing how quickly, even in like how the media would say seemingly liberal places can go to this full blown like, yeah, yeah, let's just let's just fuck with people's civil liberties real quick. That might be the better option here. Well, yeah, I mean, the city of San Francisco has been in really deep doo doo for a long time with like wealth inequality. And like this is like this did not happen overnight like san francisco has had like a huge problem with the unhoused population and with drugs and with of course with robbery and it's like we're we're

the police answer is always treating the symptom and not going to the source of the problem of like, why is there not affordable housing? And why are these poor people not lacking so much community and connection that they're getting addicted to drugs? And, you know, it's just, police is always the answer in this country. Well, and I think that's the most fucked up part, right?

Because I'm so tired of hearing about policies and technology that, quote, will make policing easier. That's like the biggest red flag you could ask for. Yeah. Policing in this country. They said that about body cams. Right. They said that about body cams. And how has that worked out?

Well, yeah, you can wait a few months or maybe, oh, whoops, I didn't have it on that time. But I think what we do know is that policing in this country is unequivocally a failed experiment. And we ignore new approaches to community safety at our own peril. Like the trajectory we are on will eventually lead to you cannot leave your domicile unless it is for authorized activity in order to ensure the community's safety type shit yeah yeah and i would also challenge that to say like it really wasn't an experiment like that policing in this country has always been to protect wealth and to protect property yeah i i use that in a very uh a charitable way to say okay you're done 250 years uh Like how many times do you need to see it absolutely fail in your face to be like, this is not a good thing or working.

And, you know, like to your point as well, Kirsten, it's like, we're not talking about what the root cause is, right? Because so much crime, like the news likes to sensationalize, there's so much shit that's just survival crime. You know, people needing ways to make money to support themselves in a family because they have been completely excluded from the traditional economy based on, you know, class, race, gender identity, what have you. And if we're going to actually slow quote unquote crime, we need to address the needs of people. It's proven over and over again what social safety nets can do

to help stabilize people's lives. So people commit crimes because they are in need much of the time and not because we don't have enough fucking ring cameras that police can fucking hack into. Exactly.

The police are basically, especially in San Francisco, they are private security for like real estate millionaires and tech billionaires, essentially. And corporations. Yeah. I mean, you know, I mean, the whole like CVS thing. I have one of my best friends lives in San Francisco and she's like, you literally can't find a drugstore.

in San Francisco and she's like, you literally can't find a drugstore. Like there are no drugs because CVS is deciding as a company to close their stores because of the loss of inventory. And then even that is actually a myth that they were pushing because they were actually running at a loss on their rentals, like for the, for the locations they used to rent places. And they had like actually articulated a plan to begin phasing out stores because they weren't just they weren't bringing in enough revenue to justify the property rental cost. And they were able to then loop in this the theft ring into like sort of give give this whole narrative even more legs like, dude, CVS can't even operate here anymore. When a lot of journalists are like, hold on, there was an earnings call six months ago where they talked about how

this was a very bad market for them and they needed to rethink their strategy here. So that's what's like wild too, is there's so many seemingly good faith explanations for things that are happening, but many of them are still tied up in like this, you know, manufacturing consent for this new way of keeping people safe by being like, yeah, we're going to tap into cameras just like they did in the summer of 2020, which I think a lot of people don't talk about either, where many activists are saying, dude, they're fucking tapping into like the cameras when people are exercising their right to protest. And that's having a chilling effect on our ability to organize things. So there's like so much shit that so much multi-layer shit happening with like,

they can just take one sort of really sensational bit of video and take us to this point, I feel like. Yeah. And if you want to see that, like, there's a conspiracy at work with the mainstream media, or at least the mainstream media is heavily influenced by wealth and like look look at that story about cvs and like why they're closing their doors and the real the real reason is that the rent is too high that every everything costs too much prices are out of control particularly in you know with regards to rent in san francisco jesus christ and that like that is a that is a story that everyone can identify with that is a story that needs to be told that people are telling in movies and people are telling but in the mainstream media they chose to take like ignore

the fact that cbs couldn't even pay their fucking rent and go with it's these handful of unhoused people shoplifting and like they they've made it so they can't even like keep shit on the shelf anymore which again the fact like it there is brutal inequality in san francisco it's not like those crimes were were not happening but the fact that the the runaway story that became like a national media, you know, phenomenon became about shoplifting instead of like a story that is like desperately crying out to be told. Ezra Klein, who's like really smart for usually like half of his articles. He like, I think he started with Vox and now he's at the New York Times. And he's like, he almost got there in this article where he's talking about how prices are the main story in

the United States. The fact that prices are completely out of control and that there are things that the government could be doing to hem them in and make it so the corporations aren't able to just raise prices as much as they want or, you know, landlords aren't able to. And they're choosing not to do that. And then he, you know, proposed a bunch of like means tested shit at the end. But he was almost there. It was almost like, yeah, so what what do we do about that? It was almost like, yeah, so what do we do about that? We need to have a government maybe that isn't completely and 100% of the time beholden000. And that's, I mean, it's laughable. It's just, it's truly mind boggling. I mean, we have like a housing crisis. People are waiting in lines around the block just to see a shitty apartment on the Lower East Side because it's $2,000. Right.

And even that is so high for the average person right it's yeah and i think and again it's what because america hate like the media hates to really like examine what the real issues that are like harming this country are we're not talking about it in a way of like okay the average the fucking average is five thousand like most people are raised to be like hey you don't want to spend you know more than a third of your monthly income on rent so if this person this magical person who can afford five thousand dollars a month a month rent they're making what fifteen thousand dollars you know, net. Yeah. Who is this person? 180 grand a year take home. Right. That's what that's your net. Like, so where, where, where is this? Because most people who would hear this

right now be like, who, why, and how many people like this are there? There, I mean, there are plenty of people who can afford that, but that's not what the average person can afford. And I think when we do these things and just scapegoat the poor, uh, for being like all this chaos, man, CVS is fucking up because these poor people are stealing things rather than shit is so expensive and people are so desperate. Look at what it's doing to society right now.

Look at that. Yes. But it's easier to just say, Oh God, this, this DA man, he's a real, he's a real loser,

huh? Cause everything's out of control because no one can afford anything. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yikes. Yikes. Yikes is right.

And this is our- And yikes. I'm trying to figure out what your salary would have to be to pull in 180 after taxes. And I just did $250,000. And that brings you to $162,000. So you wouldn't even if you made $250,000 a year, you wouldn't even be able to afford rent in average rent. Yeah. If you made a quarter of a million dollars a year, you could not live comfortably in New York City. Right. Even if you're living by that rule, because we know most people are spending 60% of their income on rent. You know what I mean? Oh, absolutely. Spending way more than a third of my income on my rent.

Everyone is so strapped. Everyone is so strapped. But again, when the people who report the news are people who are not strapped and have never been strapped and will never be strapped for cash. You have to be making around $290,000, almost $300,000 a year to afford rent and to afford average rent, which is not how things work. But that's I mean, that's what was cool about this Ezra Klein thing. It was like, holy shit, did they just find out about this in the New York Times? But yeah, he was just talking about how the medium home price in 1950 was 2.2 times

the average annual income. By 2020, it was six times. Child care costs grew by about 2,000% between 1972 and 2007. Family premiums for employer-based health insurance jumped by 47 percent just between 2011 and 2021 deductibles out-of-pocket costs went up 70 percent like that does that that's in 10 years and it like you're the amount we're paying on for health insurance let alone like companies is went up 70 percent this is when we're supposed to be like getting state sponsored health care and then between 1980 and 2018 the average cost of an undergraduate education rose

by 169 percent and so everybody is in debt is is in massive debt. And like, yeah, like what we were just talking about with being able to pay your rent, like everybody is in debt. And they are like, well, why is their crime? Why are people unhappy with the Democratic Party? And it's like, well, I don't know, man. party. And it's like, well, I don't know, man. And just specifically on the child care costs, I mean, it's my brother has two young children and one is two and one is like six months. And they had a dual income. Both he and his wife were working and, you know, doing pretty well. Like, you know, they had a good upper middle class income for a family of four. And just to consider her going back to work and then having to put them in daycare, they were looking at $4,000 a month in daycare costs.

Yeah. So essentially, like for most people, that's like you would only be working to pay the daycare so how does it make sense to work like it's it's like it makes sense if she's going back i mean that offsets assuming she's making you know one one to 1.5 million dollars a year that's exactly easy yeah yeah as a as a special education teacher, that's about the average of what they're making. What could a special education teacher make Michael one, $1.5 million a year. Yeah.

Holy moly. So it's like, how do we, God, like, how do we circle that square? My goodness. Yeah.

Well, and I think that's what we, at every, at every turn, like like we people who are in these places positions of power and it's hard for them to abandon the status quo but like the the previous ways of thinking are not applicable and in fact they're they're harmful at this point and the challenge is to have the imagination to do things differently because we're not in the same fucking realities that we are. And I think that's what's so frustrating. My favorite philosopher said, think different.

Steve Jobs, have you read his work? It's the only philosophy we teach our kids is, you know, Baja blasts for breakfast and just add copy, add copy for lunch exactly love it hustle for dinner yeah and you hustle you get out there you get on your grind sir yes love it super healthy all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back Super healthy. All right.

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And I don't know, man. Did you ever hear that voicemail where he and his wife called the reporter who had written something negative about him? No. like had written something negative about him and then they left the phone unhung up and you just like heard them be like just so like bitchy and awful and like kind of evil sounding but it also felt like they feel like they're entitled to to this senate seat it's pretty wild it's not going great for him he seems somewhat social media social media illiterate and just like humankind illiterate a little bit the thing his main thing that john fetterman his opponent actual human being and former bernie sanders supporter is you know hitting hitting him on repeatedly is that he's like a a fake pennsylvanian because he didn't live in pennsylvania until

he decided to run for office and his response to that critique is to go to the biggest tourist traps in philadelphia but like the tourist traps that everybody thinks are like authentic so he went to you know the two philly cheesesteak places pats and geno's and took his picture in each one and pats immediately came back and was like do you even live in pennsylvania and can you spell the town you live in? Because in his campaign announcement, he misspelled his declaration of candidacy. He misspelled his supposed Pennsylvania hometown. And he got roasted for that.

He showed his show business ass because he said he was in Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania, but he spelled Huntington Beach, California, with a T rather than the D. Oh my God. He was in Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania, but he spelled like Huntington Beach, California. Right. With the T. Oh, my God. And yeah, I like that he goes just but again, in a panic thing, like, yeah, I went to Pat's and Gino's though. Right.

Yeah. You got to cover both sides. Can we also talk about that? Like one of the press pictures that he took, he has like a big thumbs up, I think. And it has right behind him. Hashtag heart attack. Like, wasn't, and it has right behind him hashtag heart attack. Like, wasn't he a heart surgeon? He was.

What are you promoting here? He was a heart surgeon and a very good heart surgeon, by the way, which shouldn't tell you anything about Dr. Oz. It should tell you about surgeons. Surgeons are essentially like fighter pilots. They're just. They got to be good. Yeah, you can't be like a bad pilot. They gotta be good with their hands. They do not have to be all around emotionally intelligent human beings, which I know is confusing to people sometimes. The best part,

though, is like how John Fetterman, though, like he is a Dr. Oz's social media nemesis. Like when he tweeted the thing where he's like yo i'm at geno's and pats he the thing that federman tweeted he said he quote tweeted that he said ah yes the trip to pats plus geno's a rite of passage for every tourist yeah and federman's social media team is on point they're worth it and then he even got snooki to record a fucking cameo because he lives in new jersey and because of her jersey shortcut let me just play this thing where he john federman summons snooki like some pokemon to be like let me just throw some shade at dr oz real quick jersey to jersey hey may met this ismett. This is Nicole Snuggie. Hey, Maymett. And I'm

from Jersey Shore. I don't know if you've seen a bit before, but I'm a hot mess on a reality show, basically, and I enjoy life. But I heard that you moved from New Jersey to Pennsylvania to look for a new job. And personally, I don't know why anyone would want to leave Jersey because it's like the best place ever. And we're all hot messes. But I want to say best of luck to you. I know you're away from home and you're in a new place, but Jersey will not forget you. Again, just do we think Snooki knew what she was doing in that? Or do we think that Fetterman's campaign reached out and just gave her the script?

And yeah, gave her this. Oh yeah. They gave her the script. Oh man, it's so good. It's so, I don't know Snooki that well to like believe that she really knew the kind of shade she was throwing. No. But if, if Fetterman paid for that, that's brilliant. I'm sure he just paid and said, Hey, my friend Mehmet, even though she's like, hey, Mehmet. Like, so that's I'm like, I don't think I don't think she was coached on this at all.

Like, I think she just looked through her cameo request and like, all right, this is for Mehmet who just moved from Jersey to Pennsylvania. And because you can always say what you want them to say. And I just really want you to wish them best of luck on their new journey because, you know, they left home. And so they can script it in a way that like the celebrity will just kind of regurgitate wow you got a poem that's brilliant i think you might be right there's just like an authenticity about fetterman in this which feels like it has similarities to the authenticity that is like confounding to the mainstream media that like Sanders had where they're like, what is it about this guy? It's like, oh, they like actually say the thing that they believe. And there's like, there's, there's no, they don't have consultants

who tell them how to speak in a language that will make your job easier. They just say the thing. And so Fetterman's got $9.9 million in campaign contributions. Dr. Oz's campaign has pulled in $1.1 million, which I think is less. That's nine times more. That's not good. And Fetterman seems to be like surging in the polls, despite the fact that he hasn't actually been campaigning. He's been recovering from a stroke. He had a he suffered

a stroke due to an undisclosed heart condition days before he earned the nomination in mid-May. I'm not going to say anything about the CIA's heart attack gun or the fact that Bernie Sanders had a heart attack in the lead up to his run for president i'm not gonna say that but i'm just saying a cia sniper named jack o'brien might have been at work with a little heart might have dusted off the old badge heart attack gun but dr oz's response to him like being not on the campaign trail and still, like, kicking his ass was, like, first of all, to put up a, make a, like, really bad graphic of Fetterman on a milk carton with a missing sign. And then the date is, like, missing since when he had the stroke is, like, the date that he used. Like they didn't write when he had the stroke, but they might as well. If it was like since this date, which seems pretty dickish coming from a man who once again would like us to believe that his first name is doctor.

I think he tried to legally change his name to Dr. Oz. No. Also great. Great. I love that cardiologist. You're a fucking cardiologist. Right.

No, it's, he had a stroke. It's a heart condition. He's like, yeah, I know i know how that should happen but fuck that he's on a milk cart yeah wow it is it is truly early 90s television graphics though that they've got which makes sense like it's like the done by the 78 year old photoshop whiz that dr oz knows um is like the caliber of image image work that they've got here that was the other thing he posted where because he's he dr oz's whole thing is trying to tie fetterman and like bernie sanders together be like he's just a bernie or whatever and he did

like he did um the stepbrothers like the poster from Stepbrothers with John C. Reilly and Will Ferrell, but he swapped out Bernie's head and John Fetterman's head, and it said, best friends. And it's like, John Fetterman's head is so big in Dr. Oz did with like the most meme shit or just like a rainbow gradient in Comic Sans that says graphic design is my passion with like a clip art kitten like crudely thrown in the corner. And everyone like he's just getting fucking ratioed constantly because better than the fucking replies. Savage. in the fucking replies savage but it's just so fun like tying him to a doctor or uh to bernie sanders or aoc he's like that ought to do it and he keeps getting more support well then yeah they'll show clips of when he had bernie on his fucking show yeah and you're like yeah is this you also like what do you like what's the deal here he also made a commercial the entire premise of which is that he doesn't have a heart condition it's literally just a minute of dr oz

jogging in slow motion like for real yeah that's all they did they were like look at this healthy spry motherfucker yeah oh my god it's wow you know jezebel has like they have a fucking running list of all the windmills that like fetterman's just put on dr oz on twitter yeah it's worth checking out yeah like there's one where fetterman made a mclovin driver's license where it was clearly like that mclovin meme but he just made it says pennsylvanian driver license driver license oh man i i also just to circle back on like the the campaign money i love dr oz's explanation of that where he's like well when democrats are angry they they raise money. And when Republicans are angry, they go mow their lawn. I was like, what?

What are you talking about? Like, no, when they're angry, they go protest outside of abortion clinics. And it's horrible. With guns. What? Yeah. Yes. And then get away with it.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, just completely out of away with it. Yeah. Yeah. Like just completely out of touch with reality. Yeah. But I mean, who better than to be the Republican Senate candidate than a guy who does like a I can jog fucking commercial. test of like the amount of money that dr oz is spending on political consultants right now through the day of his the election is astronomical and federman truly seems like it's him and his stoned like 14 year old cousin who is like running his social media feed like it just it it's pretty like savvy but savvy in a way of like he hired a handful of very good shit posters to run his social media campaign and

he's like not doing that much else can't imagine oz will fare well in a in a debate if that ever happens but oh my god yeah i can't imagine what that would look like yeah it'll it'll be interesting to see because i mean oz does have a lot of the advantages in the sense that he is a household name and john fetterman is i think the opposite of that like for the most part heading into this election right i mean he has that leather jacket. That's pretty cool. He's got a standard. Anyways, Kirsten,

truly a pleasure having you. We made it. We did it, despite your tech glitches, despite my tech glitches. They didn't want us to record this podcast, but we did it anyways. And it was a true pleasure.

Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yes, thank you. Oh my goodness. So you can find us on Instagram at Boss Bitch Show. That is our New York City standup show that we do the second Thursday of every month in the West Village at the Comedy Shop. If you want to see us live, come out and see that. We're a femme-forward LGBTQIA BIPOC show, which is very

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Correct. Yeah. think one of the one of the episodes y'all dropped last week was like always overbook a gangbang correct which yeah and it's a and it's a um it's a fair recommendation yeah um always over practical advice yeah it's like practical advice so yeah you can stream it wherever you stream them podcasts and yeah we're pretty excited about it awesome is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying oh social media specifically um or anything you've been enjoying or anything i mean here's what i will say this is shameless shameless promotion but we were just in the guardian and like the print newspaper, which like, when does that ever happen? Like with a picture and everything. So I thoroughly enjoyed seeing myself in a print newspaper. I got to say, it's Leo season.

It's almost my birthday. Like I'm allowed to just be obsessed with myself this month. And that was very that was very, um, satisfying. I must say. They named us August 5th. August 5th.

All right. We're born like a week apart and our, have the same last name. It was pretty crazy. Oh my God. What is that? You guys are related. I know.

So I thoroughly enjoyed, uh, that I got to say very narcissistically and i did they named us uh top podcast of the week well congratulations yeah thank you miles where can people find you what's the tweet you've been enjoying oh man twitter instagram at miles of gray look if you like basketball check out miles and jack got mad boosties and even if you don't like basketball check out miles and jack got mad Boosties. And even if you don't like basketball, check out Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. Because guess what?

Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. It's true. So why don't you listen to it on the podcast? The NBA has officially co-signed. We have Mad Boosties. Yeah. I can hit net at the very bottom. I mean.

But I hit it hard. When we hit a million downloads, we will do a dunk contest. Yeah. On live. We'll do that on IG Live. You guys can vote on that. In a single day. So y'all got a lot of work to do.

You got a lot of like and review. But review uh but actually jack let me just uh alter that we'll bring the rim down to eight feet okay so it's gonna be a jam off okay uh also you can check me on uh 420 day fiance where i talk 90 day fiance my favorite trash reality show. A tweet that I like. Let me see. I got a couple here. And I saw this always funny when I look at ones and I like to see if Jack liked them too. I stayed away from some of those ones because we always overlap. Let me see. Let me see.

Okay. This one is from Trash Jones at Jay Zucks tweeted. Microdosing vacation by disassociating at work. It's a very good way to look at it. And there's other one that is just a very heartwarming tweet. It's from Docs underscore gay. Their display name is Westworld era with the pirate flag. It says me and who for real, for real.

And it's this clip of someone looking into their pool skimmer and they take the lid off and like there's like a little like sponge floating thing and there's a little tiny wet mouse and a frog just staying afloat on it side by side so like because they couldn't swim and it's just wild to see them together being like hey man when we getting out of here uh but they're chilling uh so oh i did i did really also enjoy that and i would 100 watch that pixar film there's just something about a wet little mouse and very calm next to like a little bullfrog it looks like fucking like a child's storybook but about the suburbs exactly i need to find an immediately option it that sounds brilliant brilliant. Hey, I work for Disney. Yeah,

a couple tweets I've been enjoying. Bill Garf's tweeted, hydrated Obama would be like, uh, let me pee clear. That one really? That construction's been doing the rounds. Let me pee clear. District Sentinel tweeted, like Vampire Weekend, thank Vampire Unions. And

Matt B Tweets69 tweeted, David Attenborough voice, the lonely stoner seems to free his mind at night. That's the one. And then that was the one you thought of. And then Fred Delicious just had the tweet I mentioned earlier. What's the funniest celebrity name? If you swap their initials,

I'm torn between Wenzel Dashington and Hom Tanks. The thread is just full of some great shit. Cradley Booper? Snesley Wipes? Love it.

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Just not in the Apple review section. If you write for a newspaper, come through with a wild review about how we're like, you know, left wing and dangerous. And yeah, that would be great for us, actually. They're like pro poor people or something. Also in the footnotes, you can find a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy?

Oh, this is going to be if you like Sir, and you know the song Devils. this is going to be if you like sir and you know the song devils that's actually a sample of this track you're about to hear if you choose to go seek it out it's by billy bollo and it's called one spliff a day and it's a great like you know reggae track from like the late 80s he was 13 when he made this track and only had a very short career and like i think passed away in his like early 30s uh but this track is just it's just fantastic it's friday enjoy yourself billy boyo one for this friday yeah enjoy the weekend everyone yeah all right well the daily zyka is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows

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