The Daily Zeitgeist - Scamazon Crime? 2/20: AI News, Trump, SneakerCon, Box Office

Episode Date: February 20, 2024

In this edition of Scamazon Crime, Jack and Miles discuss their respective long-ass weekends, a deluge of AI-related news, Trump really putting the 'Con' into his SneakerCon appearance, this weeks box office update, and much more! How I Fell for an Amazon Scam Call and Handed Over $50,000 (thecut.com) Here's what Jack The Ripper looked like — according to AI (nypost.com) ‘Madame Web’ flops at the box office - The Washington Post See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this week trend, long week trend, a trending edition of... Their Daily Zeitgeist! Yeah. It's a production of iHeartRadio, and it's a podcast where we take a deep dive into American Chair Consciousness. And I am jacking that over there. Well, that's Miles. Yep.

Miles Gray. What's going on, man? I'm in the 305. I'm Mr. Miami 305 Worldwide. Mr. Worldwide. Yeah, out here visiting Her Majesty's, some of her family. Some of her family hails from this part of florida flower and it's great man caught the caught the fucking miami boat show

in that the fucking traffic was so fucked up i thought people were fleeing like this area for their lives it was like apocalyptic bumper to bumper traffic at times um but yeah other than that but did you catch it on purpose or you were just like stuck in traffic? This is just a time when like her family was going to be able to get together. Cause a lot of people had babies. So the time to like bring all the babies together and it just happened to be the fucking weekend of the boat show.

Yeah. A lot of boats, a lot of boats around, a lot of boat people. I once got caught in the U Ss open of surfing by accident like in one of those beach towns down like orange county area and it was uh this is the word like i i was delayed like four hours i was it was a nightmare yeah we just like gave up at a certain point and went in a parking lot and took a nap. Oh, shit.

That's real bad. No, it wasn't that bad, but it was definitely like when we got in, like, what the fuck's going on in town right now? And then every sign's like, boat show traffic, there's a boat show thing this way. And then it rained all, I think I brought the California rain with me. Anyway, it's fine. It's great.

Florida boat shows, though, I'm I brought the California rain with me. Anyway, it's fine. It's great. Florida boat shows though. I'm assuming like a lot of just like kind of thoughtful messaging and design. Some really cool trucks, you know, some really, really forward thinking, progressive ideals blazoned on the front.

I've seen some fucking people have some really interesting placards. Like, like I, there's some, I don't know, man, there's just, it's like any city in america there's some interesting placards okay someone had a thing in their over like in their rear view window that looked like a handicap placard it's like blue yeah and then if you look at it it says i'm not handicapped just slightly r-word and you're like what the fuck i was like i was like what the fuck is this i'm like this is a

real attack i'm like no but what the fuck is this and what is this person saying about themselves so i don't know anyway it's just there's a ton of there's a there's a lot going on man there's a lot going on florida florida baby um all right well this is the show where we catch up with the things that have been trending uh over the past few days this is a long weekend this one feels especially long ago yeah um but they were mere moments ago i know it's it's been a some weekends is a decade i think is the is the brilliant saying i think it was checkoff or uh someone like that said some weekends is a decade. Some weekends is. So before we get to that stuff, we do like to check in with each other

by telling you stuff that we think is underrated, overrated. You want me to start off? You want me to kick us off with an underrated? Whatever you want. Dealer's choice. Dealer's choice dealer's choice so my first underrated on a personal note uh is my five-year-old's ability to just fucking roast me um he i've talked about this before but i came back came home after a haircut yesterday and he just pointed at

my head and said what happened and then uh then I said, I got a haircut. And he said, looks weird. And then went back to building his Legos. So just casually, no. Is that why you buzzed your head? Yeah, yeah. So I shaved my head off. Yeah.

Just went all the way down. Scored a stir. He's like, you happy now? Oh my God. It looks weird. Back to my regularly scheduled programming. Yes. Looks weird, man.

I also, just on a broader scale, I saw this clip. Do you see the clip of the referee doing a jump ball in an NBA, or in a, not NBAba in a basketball game and he just like kind of throws it to one of the teams like it's like what would happen if i had like quantum leaped into a referee's body and then you like spun me around 10 times and then just sent me out there and was like, jump ball. Go do this thing now.

Yo, that is... What the... Is this game fixed? It really feels like... You would be suspicious it was fixed if it weren't so blatant, but he just kind of throws it to one team. Everybody's kind of standing there

confused as to what happened. Also, I've never seen a ref positioned so far away from the two players on a jump ball. Yeah. No, it's like he had never even seen a jump ball before. Yeah. It was like they pulled him in off the street. like they pulled him in off the street. It reminded me of the Enrico Palazzo scene in Naked

Gun where Leslie Nielsen takes over as the ref of a Major League Baseball game because he's undercover and knows that one of the players is going to kill the queen. Yeah. But this, I also

it's very entertaining first of all. Honestly, we have to put this in the footnotes because just, I can't look. It's so, it's confounding. Like, even the players are fucking confused. They stop. The guy who gets the ball even stops. And he's like, yeah, play on.

And he's like, oh shit. And he starts taking it up the court. Yeah. But I don't know i there's i've talked before about how medieval carnivals like they would have these weeks where people would switch jobs like the chief would switch with the custodian and the custodian would be the chief and i think we should go back to people getting to just randomly or having to do the job of other people just so that we appreciate those jobs more yeah you know like seeing somebody do the job of throwing a jump ball this badly

made me i'm like oh shit they must be working on their jump balls like 100 jump balls a day as a rep because this makes you realize how unnatural it is to be able to like throw it up in between two people who are like about to fight for it in a way that doesn't favor one over the other whereas this guy is just like hey I'm passing it to you here you go bud

yeah here you go like undercover boss I guess is entertaining I've never watched, but the premise is certainly entertaining. You never watched Undercover Boss? It's definitely stacked towards the bosses, but if we got the opposite, where if a rich person got caught bitching about Starbucks employees on social media, they had to star in a reality TV episode, or at least an act of reality TV where they had to do a

Starbucks rush hour. That would be so entertaining. You should do 40 hours. You do a work week. And get your licks in for sure. Make people deliver their own Amazon package. See what that process is like? Yeah. I think, yeah, I like the idea of, yeah, people always need to do this. I forget what guest was saying.

Like, we need to make, like, food service work mandatory for every American to just, like, set a baseline of decency for how we interact with people. Instead of mandatory military service, mandatory, like, McDonald's. Which is sad, because what we're saying is mandatory get your shit together, you fucking how we interact with people instead of mandatory military service mandatory like mcdonald's which is sad because what we're saying is mandatory get your shit together you fucking adult like yeah that's that's what we have to lean in on is people to appreciate the work that others do but yeah undercover boss though man when that shit first came out though there was this thing like i i'm sure i brought this up on the show before, but like in the early two thousands, like post nine 11, like having a connection to someone in nine 11 was like reality show gold.

Oh yeah. Oh, we're going to answer this person. Yeah. They're like, yeah, my partner was in nine 11 and Bob, they're like,

Oh my God. Or like, you know, just an undercover boss. I remember there's a time when I was just like binge watching it on Netflix and like every, like there's a, there's a while like, oh my God, another fucking nine 11 thing. Um, but the, and every now and then you'd get a boss who would actually kind of put together how hard it was to work at their company and then be like, yeah, you know what? We're actually making major changes here. I realized. And then others were like, these people fucking suck, so I fired them right away. Fuck them.

Yeah. Notice that they don't do it the other way, where the shift worker gets to do the job of the CEO and see how glorious it is. Get to fly on a private jet and just have all of the minutia

of day-to-day life taken care of for them. I feel like that would cause riots. on a private jet and just have all of the minutia of day-to-day life taken care of for them right i feel like that would cause riots and so they just focus on the ceo and i'm sure there's never like an episode where the ceo is like completely unable to do the job i'm sure they're always like telling telling a good story but like if we could get the the honest truth of like how hard that work is compared to answering emails from a private jet no there's ones right there you have these fucking office creatures cannot get busy with the blue collar work at all yeah and it's like yeah and like to the point where the like the people who are the like the actual worker in the situation are like looking at them they're like i don't know honestly this guy has no fucking chance like i don't know if i

can even work with them anymore it's like hey buddy i'd fire you if uh this were a real work day and not a camera thing and then when it's revealed later like i'm so sorry man i said that to you the guy's like no no no i i needed to hear that i mean like that just shows you how much work you guys put into this stuff and how and you're fired yes but guess what asshole you've been fired yeah anyways uh what's something you think miles gray is underrated oh man just i just think the ability of like i we were fucked with like some ai imagery man i they're the popularity of ai images on grandma and grandpa's facebook it's startling right now like i've seen a few accounts on facebook that are posting ai images yeah like at first glance seem like real photos but are actually ai generated i've gotten like really

into looking at mid journey and shit just seeing how detailed you can be with like generating some of these images so when i saw them like you can kind of look and you're like a tree doesn't really look like that a bush like no one would cut their hedges like that and you can kind of see these other details when it's not necessarily a human that you can begin to see sort of like these abnormalities but there are these accounts that post made up fancy houses or beach locations with interesting features or architecture. And all the commenters, most are older, are saying stuff like, wow, so beautiful. Must visit this place one day. Wow. Stunning home.

And there's just like a momentum to not questioning the images that we see already that we have like culturally but like it's clear that the bar is even lower when it comes to like sort of innocuous shit like houses or landscapes that was like oh my god so beautiful i'm like i'm like where the fuck is that and then like you'll see on reddit people being like oh my god like look at this it's like fucking ai thing is just blowing up because someone thinks it's like this beautiful home in the alps um yeah and i just i just realized too like we just like to see nice shit so the ai stuff is really good at making things like that and like this brutalist home library is fantastic right like look at that fucking chair like in the corner that's not even

that doesn't even function as a fucking chair but whatever it's it just kind of shows where we're very open to a lot of these images and it's not always easy to figure out what the fuck is real or not anymore we're yeah we're it is a weird time for ai for sure we'll get into that a little bit later but like the video engines uh are are weird um but yeah and then just on the image front like i don't know we'll talk about the new york but like the video engines are weird. But yeah, and then just on the image front, like, I don't know, we'll talk about the New York Post got like so horny for this AI rendering of Jack the Ripper. They were like, oh, I wanna fuck him.

He's so hot. It's Jack the Ripper and he's really hot. Jack, rip me up, please. Look at this guy's dreamy hair. Mr. Ripper Rip me up, Jack. Rip me up, please. Look at this guy's dreamy hair. Mr. Ripper, rip up this ass. Yeah, it's wild. My overrated is taking

financial advice from The Cut. I don't know if you saw. I mean, that was where I got all my financial advice up to this point was New York Magazine's The Cut. we're super late on this. But again, this weekend, a lot of shit happened. This happened late Thursday, I think.

And so the personal finance columnist at The Cut wrote about how she got scammed by someone claiming to be a caller from Amazon. First leg. Okay. Wrote about how she got scammed by someone claiming to be a caller from Amazon first like you okay Amazon could have like accidentally Like picked up your child instead of a package that you left out and like you wouldn't be able to get them on the phone You know like they they don't have that they don't have the bone Yeah, they don't yeah Amazon don't have phone the most you can do is like scream at like a Kohl's or a Whole Foods that acts as like a drop off point for Amazon shit. Right.

Then, uh, you know, the Amazon transferred, uh, her over to the FTC who, uh, by the way, don't like deal with fraud or any of this shit, uh, who offered their badge number. fraud or any of this shit, who offered their badge number. Just, I want everybody at home to Google FTC badge number because this was apparently what, even before this article hit, the first

result for FTC badge number is FTC commissioners aren't calling you. Really. This is just written at the top of Google. It's not even an article it's just they've like pulled this as like a public service yeah whether the caller promises you a prize or threatens you with arrest and even if they give a fake badge number that's a scammer

is yeah all they needed to do was type ftc badge number into Google and Google would have hopefully been identified this as a scammer. Yeah, we're so bad at civics that we don't even know. You're like, the FTC? Yeah, the Federal Trade Commission? Unless you're like, you're running some monopolistic business, you're not going to

intersect with the FTC ever. But then like, here's my badge number, FTC commercial, blah, blah, blah. Miles, it got more serious from there because then they transferred her over to a cia agent who confirmed the information that the ftc uh badge holder was giving them a different voice and everything uh and somehow it went from there to they convinced her that she was running out of time before her assets were frozen for the length of the investigation because they were like, your identity has been stolen and people are committing crimes

with your identity. We are like, the NYPD is on their way to arrest you. We're going to freeze your assets. You need to withdraw $50,000 from your bank and give it, put it in a shoe box and give it to the CIA, to my CIA colleague. And she did all that shit. She put 50 racks in a shoe box and gave it to someone?

And gave it to someone. They were like a white Escalade is gonna pull up, you're going to put it in the window, you're going to say thank you, turn around and walk back into your building. And she did that shit.

Oh my god. It's one of those things where you hear the description of the article and you're like, oh, that's so dumb. But you're like oh that's so dumb like that yeah but then you're expecting like it's written in a first person narrative you're going to read it read the details and get like some explanation or get like kind of pulled into the stream of events in a way that makes sense right you read it and like there are just these details that are like even worse like that this person just has all this like privilege and also like a jamie lee curtis in true lies

level of desperation for like this to be true bores and bores yeah exactly yeah uh just like wanting to be in a spy movie i think there's just you know a part of her that wants all these spy movie tropes to be true and i yeah i don't know it's it's it's scary man wild it's true yeah and truly that person should not have fucking said anything out loud about this take that fucking l in silence especially if you're coming off as somebody who's like hey listen to me for financial advice i just pissed away 50k in a shoebox because someone told me they were with the ftc won't let me be and they passed me to the cia what uh cia again why does the central intelligence agency yes hello badge number 44328-2 can i help you yes the white escalade will be yes and it is going to be blasting a fucking young thug out of it just

so you know uh but that is official cia scammer music there's a yeah there's a part where like the person is like i forget i think it's like they're talking about her getting arrested she's like i i'm thinking about googling whether this is even possible and then he's like and this call is being recorded and instead of like googling or like calling 9-1-1 or whatever uh or just like hanging up uh she is like oh i know what i'll do i'll record back i'll record the call back so i'm recording it it's like what the fuck is that going to do that's like when when like like racist karens get caught in the wild and they're being videotaped videotaped and they're like well now i'm getting my exact it's like for what for what oh no yeah y'all. This is, I mean, shout out to the scammers because they really, they did it Inception style.

How many levels of the dream? They went Amazon layer, FTC layer, CIA layer, and now you are 50K out. Very clean psychological profile, I feel like, that they had built out of this person. But she's also, like, but she, she's also like, she thinks it's really a fascinating read. People should go read it. We'll link off to it in the footnotes. Uh,

but she is like, I'm not the type of person who falls for this. I vote. I floss. I'm so I vote and floss. Yeah. Which is a lady. Is this a man?

This is a, this is a woman. a woman do you know her name yeah uh i mean and the fact that she's a freelance writer who had 80k in the bank to you know yeah a shoebox uh well she's good with her money at least she's like you you can be like me and be liquid 50k that you can just be like yeah yeah yeah here here some people are saying that like her family is like related to the roosevelts i didn't i wasn't able to like find confirmation on that but it would check out you know that this is like generational wealth um just i also just like the idea that they're like people are using your image to or your identity to scam people and we know that people are using your image to scam people but we are going to hold you responsible for that scamming even though we know unequivocally you are not the person doing like what the fuck the logic does oh boy i mean when it gets to cash in a shoebox

and a white escalate pulling up outside i feel like there should be some see i watch too many scammer youtube channels to know to fall for this because but i don't watch any and i still feel like yeah yeah you know there's like there's a whole dude there's a whole sub genre of youtube videos where people are just with scammers back with like voice changers and stuff and it's great schadenfreude some people are like terribly xenophobic and it shows with the way they talk about the people they're like speaking with yeah but yeah they people people love to work this kind of thing hi i'm calling with this company you have an account with i need to get you to our security team so then they can get some information

from you right and boom boom boom yeah anyways over a i'm no longer taking financial advice from the cut exclusively i'm going to also start taking financial advice from buzzfeed yeah and also and jim kramer from mad money well i'll never turn your back on on the kramer uh my overrated mine overrated is just the senate is turning into d1 football bullshit it's like kind of fucking hilarious so like i was just reading a story about how the only shot the Democrats have at flipping Senator Tommy Tuberville Senate seat in Alabama is to have Nick Saban run against him. And they're like against a generic Democrat Tuberville's winning against,

you know, Doug Jones, Tuberville's winning against all these other people. They think like who are serious politicians, like Tuberville's when he's like know, Doug Jones, Tuberville's winning against all these other people. They think like who are serious politicians, like Tuberville's winning. He's like the one person who actually has an edge on Tuberville is Nick Saban from that university of Alabama. And I get it. Like he's the God MC down there,

but like, it's just, it, it blows my mind of the, the, the logic that like the consultant class and party operatives are using to just be like man it's this is like fucking popularity pokemon we gotta play well it's like right well if the only character to beat this character is nick saban it's like what what about

policy what like where does he stand on issues has he even said he's interested because he hasn't um but yeah it is it's wild to see just sort of like serious serious people being like that's what we got to do not maybe have a platform that would be so appealing to voters that you could put anyone who just seems like an upstanding person and i get states are different from place to place but like it's all a way to just not really change much of what what a party is offering or whatever and be like dude you know how we can get away with doing the same we get nick saban to run against tommy tuberville and that's just just disheartening that way of thinking um but i don't know this is i guess this is where we're headed um roll tide hopefully roll Hopefully. Roll Tide. Yeah. Hopefully New York from Flavor of Love will be running for office too.

Someone that we can actually trust. Tiffany Pollard. Come on, Madam Senator. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

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So an Air Canada customer service chatbot just made up a policy that the company wasn't aware of and told somebody that they could get their money back on something. And a judge has ruled that

yeah, that's on you guys. You have to honor the refund policy invented by your chat bot. Um, so that, do we know, do we know what the policy was or just, it was some kind of just refund thing where it's like, yeah, you get your money back, a partial refund to a grieving passenger who was misled by an airline chat bot inaccurately explaining the airlines bereavement travel policy. Oh my gosh yeah i like how air

canada is like dude it's not even like a person that like we even know right you can't like they say quote the chatbot is a separate legal entity that is responsible for its own actions how yeah i don't know if they're trying to get the company that programmed the chatbot to like pay for it but um or if they were like i don't know that's on him you got to talk to him the chat yeah that's a whole other legal entity and that's that's their own actions you know that that that fucking thing this ai shit that we implemented went fucking rogue. Holy shit. I love that. And then in kind of weirder AI news, the New York Post got super horny for this AI Jack the Ripper image

that was, I don't know, it's just a real sign of where we are at this moment with AI where people are just like... So the New York Post covered it as Jack the Ripper's face is finally revealed thanks to the magic of AI

and so the image shows like a highly stylized Christian Bale like it's just Christian Bale Christian Bale and like a little bit of like Josh Hartnett yes like Bale and like a little bit of like Josh Hartnett. Yes.

Yeah. Like Bale with like maybe a few prosthetics, but like this is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the other one, the profile for some reason looks like Adam Driver a little bit. Right. But yeah,

they just like used Mid Journey to make a hot guy. And they claimed that it was based on like the digital or the genetic like dna of a suspect's relatives right they so they took kosminski the butcher's sister uncle and brother-in-law and fed it into a system. This is junk science that the police have been trying to use. DNA used to generate a facial profile, an image of what the killer may look like. And it's this generic image.

But this time, they definitely had their scales tipped towards hot like on the hotness quotient um because this guy's fucking cheekbones are off the charts yeah he's got a chiseled fucking also question your honor um you fed images of his relatives including his brother-in-law don't worry about anybody this is some motherfucker that married into your family yeah maybe they needed that because that was the hot guy from

the pictures yeah they're like just fucking yeah the oh what's what's the sister look like ah man and I'm not that great the uncle boy who's that guy That's the brother-in-law. All right, all right, add that. Add that to the fucking, to the prompt. But the way they wrote about it was wild. They were like, move over, Ted Bundy.

There's a new old serial hottie in town. Like, that's not a joke. Like, that's actually how they wrote about it. Yeah, that's not hyperbolic. That is verbatim what is written in this thing. The dangerously dreamy drawings of the dashing gentleman with a darkly alluring wild-eyed

energy. Huh? What are we doing? I get it. Like, sometimes you just are horny. But that's... But, like, we're so horny to get murdered by hot people like that's what's weird you know i mean it's like i don't need to extend anything or like oh well i mean

they were cute you know i mean like it's like when you first see like young hot stalin you're like oh okay young hot stalin i see you out there like wait wait wait man like you you can't fucking a lot of people fucking disappear me daddy. Disappear me, daddy. Yeah, exactly. And now we're like, oh, yeah, nearly decapitate me, honey. If you're coming with wild hair like that,

ooh-wee. Put it in the air. And then the other big AI thing from the weekend was those videos from OpenAI's I forget the name that they gave the the program yeah they seem like a bad dream kind of like all the videos the the ones of the animals like i don't i don't really understand how they're doing it so it's like kind of an impressive magic trick but it's also like the eyes of the people

are so like did did you did you look at any of these videos yeah i i did because i saw a few comparisons where people were talking about how they were also very similar to like a stock vote like stock video website that it's pulling from so like if people are like yeah it's kind of impressive but it's clearly like also just like mashing together shit from this like stock video thing but i mean it's a lot better than remember like the early ones when it was like will smith eating spaghetti right and i was like that one but oh dude that shit was and it's funny too because will because Will Smith kind of... He trolled them over the weekend,

and he actually just recorded a video of him eating spaghetti all fucking wild. And just to be like, damn, look how far the AI came. It's like, nah, motherfucker. Will Smith is just leaning into that shit. Yeah. Like, there's no one weirdest part of these videos. Like, there's one video where a couple is like just lounging on the beach.

Oh, and there's a great white shark, like in the shallows, like kind of splashing, but it like almost looks like a kid is just like playing in the waves. Like that's how the shark's energy is just there with his like mouth open. Yeah. It's like kind of playing in the waves and like right in front of his

parents but then like the wife or the the woman looks back at the camera and she just has her her mouth like wide open and her eyes like i don't know there's just this like weird horror movie nightmarish energy like a dementor has sucked the soul out of her face yeah like but it's also the the physics of like the what we're not physics but like the body mechanics of it too that woman's head nearly twists fully around on that like 180 degrees like there's no shoulder movement it's just like the head fucking rotates back towards the camera like yeah yeah it's uh not too impressed by that mid journey looks a lot better though i gotta say those images are yeah fucking wild like when people know how to properly prompt it it does

now get like the nypd dance video that i think we're gonna be talking about on tomorrow's episode yeah like that when i saw that i was like is it are we sure this is AI generated? Is this AI? The AI? Yeah. This feels like everything seems kind of like a bad dream about that video. Right. You know? Yeah. Did Tucker Carlson actually interview Putin? Is that AI?

No. Oh, okay. Yeah. Stranger than fiction. It's getting weird. Like, I feel like that's the thing that's unnerving is that the capabilities of the AI are going up and also getting weird as our reality is also like entering the uncanny valley somehow. Yeah. A little bit more and more. Yeah.

And it's like just our just like our values are so all over the place, too. Like we're obsessed with hot murderers. Right. You know, there's just like there's just all these weird sort of i don't know the way our brains are shifting is really feeding into it too in a weird way and also like people just like our world seems so fucked up it's like of course these images of like beautiful locations are going to be so appealing to us because it's like yeah man that looks like a that looks like a great place to be rather than where i'm at so yeah it's anything but where i'm at yeah anything but um

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Jordan 1's got a little less cool this weekend, I feel like is how I'm greeting this. You got a new iconic basketball shoe? Can you even play basketball in these? I don't know. Of all the things, they they look like shit they're you know made by trump they're not even that comfortable you know i yeah because you got your pair right i got my pair man no yeah you put that mixtape you put off i when you said you were like you were doing zion williamson type shit i didn't realize you meant that your foot was just going to blow out of the terribly made sneaker.

I thought you were going to dunk or some shit. God, could you imagine if an NBA player wore these onto the court? That would actually be a great fit. They'd fuck their whole career, I think, if you... I think just karmically, just don't put those things on the court. court but yeah so it does feel like a year since last friday when trump first announced that he'd be attending sneaker con in philadelphia uh putting the con in uh putting all the emphasis on con for this year's sneaker con um there was of course a major backlash forcing sneaker con to turn off their comments on social media and release a bullshit statement being like

we just really like want to do whatever makes people aware of sneakers and so that's why we accepted this oh it's to bring awareness to the issue we're just driving awareness for sneakers like don't you understand like people out there don't even like know about sneakers yeah the billions of dollars are moving around but nobody knows and we just need someone to act as a conduit don't you understand like people out there don't even like know about sneakers yeah the billions of dollars are moving around but nobody knows and we just need someone to act as a conduit to really spread the news these shoes are fucking offensive they're a joke on the viewer the purchaser whoever um and that dude that whole fucking presentation was so fucking weird. Have you seen the full presentation where that person came up on stage?

Uh-uh. Well, here's a clip of him pulling up to the lectern with his Jank Force 1s in hand. Hello, everybody. So, thank you very much. And we have a few young ladies that are up here crying. Look at you with the Trump 2024. Thank you, darling. I love you, much. And we have a few young ladies that are up here crying. Look at you with the Trump 2024. Thank you, darling. I love you too.

Wow. A lot of emotion. There's a lot of emotion in this room. Thank you. Thank you. So the really nice thing is we have lines and I want to thank Chase and I want to thank Alan. But we have lines going all around the block chase and i want to thank alan but we have lines going all around the block they're going all around this but they've never seen anything like this one

i just want to tell you you know i've wanted to do this for a long time i have some incredible people that work with me on things they came up with wow and this is something i've been talking about for 12 years 13 years i think it think it's going to be a big success. Your influences have been very positive. They've been real influences. Are people giving him the finger down front? Yeah. That's the real deal.

Yeah, I've been thinking about this for 12 or 13 years. Shut up, motherfucker. You don't remember 12 or 13 minutes ago. 13 years. Shut up, motherfucker. You can't, you don't remember 12 or 13 minutes ago. Actually, the Air Jordan 1s were actually influenced by me. I told him, you know, a high top with this sort of profile. 13 years ago, I remember there was a re-release of the Air Jordan Concord 11.

And I said, we need to get in on that. So then I decided to just put lead gold paint on my existing shoes and put stars and stripes on it dude so at the end of this this person comes up to the lector and this woman comes up wearing like a trump hoodie acting pretending that this is like some enthusiastic fan and then trump's just letting them like rant at the lector like we need to re-elect donald trump he's a very good man and people are like holy shit wow this person's a fan i'm like are you for real do you think the secret service just lets random herbs pull up to the lectern as a fucking former but no that's a fucking plant

so the whole thing was like the whole thing was fucking all over the place and the shit i mean i think a lot of, I think a few resellers bought them because people were saying pairs were on eBay going for like triple, quadruple the price, maybe even more now. Yeah. But that doesn't mean that money goes. There's definitely going to be an audience for it. Oh yeah, but what's funny is that reseller money,

that doesn't go to Trump unless Trump is really thinking 4D and he's like, sell them for $4, buy them up, and then resell him yourself so you can have a 10x markup on the shoe. That's where the dough's at, Trump.

But yeah, the resale market is not doing great recently. It's just so wild that he still so desperately wants to be cool. I thought he kind of knew what the game was at this point. Like, he's only talking to, like, carefully curated audiences of his supporters.

Right. And, you know, he does, you know, he stays locked away with, like, yes men. So for him to, like, try and drop a sneaker, like, and, like, go out at a sneaker con thing and think that the reception was going to be anything except this is so wild. It reminds me, he always

wants the one thing he can't have, like the approval of the New York Times led to him granting Maggie Haberman all this access that was ultimately probably bad for him. But he um but he just like wants to be like you know yeah i wonder how much of his like baron you know like maybe nah what am

i saying this motherfucker don't give a shit about his kids like part of it was like baron i know you like those travis scott stusk scottson's george j j walkers i got check out daddy's lead pair of shoes i mean all this obviously too is the timing right like he gets fucking hit with what's gonna with interest around a 400 million dollar penalty from the timing rod case to the next day yeah the next fucking day. Yo, I owe like 400 million. It's not a fucking game, yo. But here I got these sneakers. Which makes me think, like,

when did the con, when did he think this up? Was this something that was in the works? Oh, you're right. My bad. My bad. Yep. 12 or 13 years ago. That is weird. Yeah, exactly. The. Cover 13 years ago. That doesn't work. Yeah, exactly.

The timing couldn't have been. Yeah. Like, even if I'm sure it had to have been planned, like not the day before. Yeah. Maybe like pump the brakes on announcing it. Like, but he was like, we got to get it for sneaker con. They love me there. It's going to be big yeah big news to heels

that i mean we'll probably talk about this on tomorrow's episode but like this man owes a lot of money and yes there's really from what it looks like he has very limited avenues to appeal or even like get the sum taken down because people are like this isn't based on testimony like it's based on records you know what i mean like that's right that's even harder to appeal it's like this isn't because somebody said so we're looking at the fucking papers you filled out and just being like yeah so this this this comes out to about yeah 450 400 yeah yeah yeah take that a lot of this has the kind of unmistakable scent of like a scam. Like there's,

um, it says on the website, like Trump sneakers are not designed, manufactured, distributed, or sold by Donald J. Trump, the Trump organization,

or any of their respective affiliates or principals. Um, just weird because he's like literally, is that right? Sneaker con is, is that an impersonator yeah but then so the website where you buy the shoes is run by a company called cic ventures llc um which trump reported owning in his 2023 financial disclosures and then cic is getting a fee from 45 Footwear LLC, a shoe company supposedly based out of a rundown house in a grimy shopping mall in Sheridan, Wyoming, which is a town that is like famous for catering to sketchy shell companies.

Like there's the town has like registered agents that act as gatekeepers and provide U.S us addresses that like basically don't exist for shell companies so what is it illegal for like why do this shit you know what i mean like the nfts it was i don't think it was ever like this this got nothing to do with me even though i'm hawking it and i'm directing benefit i benefit directly from it is there like is there a legal reason to have to do all this fucking shell game shit i mean the sophistication of his like legal understanding of like financial laws and just all laws seems to be pretty limited especially at this point after he's alienated and like sued every lawyer who works for him so i feel like maybe he's just like putting that in like tossing that out there as a disclaimer hoping that it protects him even though no reason to suspect that it does yeah well he's trying he's doing his best man he's doing his best to to get back on his feet because

he's going to be broke folks uh i can't wait i can't wait to see this new phase to see like what the financial pressure actually does to him because he does have to put this money up in 30 days yeah and he's also running for president and yeah i mean he must have enough money like in in from all the just grifting humans the new york times reporter who's reporting was the basis for this civil fraud trial he said when looking at the things he suspected Trump only had about $50 million. And then everything's tied up in these other businesses. And then a lot of the businesses just bleed money and are like debt pits. So, I mean, I don't know if it's one of these things that's going to get solved because a,

you know, a mysterious buyer from Saudi Arabia purchased one of these business for like 10 times what the cost was and it's magically delicious now uh but i don't know and like that wouldn't be yeah i'm sure like the way he's worked things in the past has been like doing illegal shit and then just like delaying delaying delaying the consequences in court so i'm sure yeah do some manner of that right but yeah but i think the one thing for sure is that money has to like that money has to be handed over in 30 days so like there's no way around that even if you're appealing like that and then it'll be held but you have to come up with that um and how you do that is anyone's guess but there's a

few you know independent bodies now who are in the Trump organization to make sure that they are complying. So, Hey, uh, more complexity to come. Hmm. Finally, uh,

the box office report, uh, Hollywood shockingly undervalued how much people love Bob Marley for some reason. What is it about Bob Marley that made them not totally, um, you know, appreciate how popular he was? Is it all the posters fucking everywhere?

Yeah. And merch that people just wear passively? What could it be? What is it about this Marley fellow? So One Love, the Bob Marley movie, was projected to make around $30 million to $35 million. Between Wednesday and Monday, it ended up making $52 million just in the U.S., taking the number one spot of the box office over Madam Web.

Oh, man. That one really... A comic book movie has a certain baseline or has had a certain baseline up to this point. That movie Morbius, which was similarly a Spider-Man universe movie that didn't have Spider-Man in it. I barely noticed it, like even that it came out, didn't realize it had anything to do with Spider-Man. Um, that one made $39 million, uh,

in its three day debut. Um, Madam Web made 17.6 million. So this is like a new low for how bad a comic book movie can possibly do. Um, uh, but yeah, so that they were like betting on Madam Web and they were like oh yeah I guess there's this Bob Marley thing that we can throw out it has the word love in the

title let's put it out on Valentine's Day is literally what they did yeah people say it's not that movie is also not like if you're looking for a real unadulterated look into Bob Marley's life this isn't the movie but again this feels like the movie for people who have a bob marley one love t-shirt right he's like i just want to hear about that trippy artist poet guy yeah no no dark stuff at all just keep it just we love it we love it the critics were not feeling it no but hey you know marley's definitely one of those people who's like so iconic it feels weird to have somebody play him like the guy like

i don't know the actor playing him didn't seem like he was giving me that much like marley or it was like doing the magic trick that you need a movie to do to be like no that is Bob Marley I guess you know yeah Kingsley Benadier is the actor and it definitely it feels like a dude wearing a Bob Marley costume

you know what I mean like like looking at it you're like oh shit that's Bob Marley cause also like I don't know why his dreads look so bad you know what i mean yeah like that's the part i think that's that that's the part that really my fucking brain cannot like wrap my head around like at least get the dreads right it looked like a helmet it looks like a, like a DEA agent is pretending to be a Rasta to buy weed. The wig is not our best wig work.

And like, come on. I know these dreads can look, because they damn sure don't look like Bob Marley's dreadlocks. No. Iconic, wonderful dreadlocks like not his young guy sort of you know when zach de la roca was rocking that kind of style of dreads back in the day not like the shorter ones and then even the like latter day ones it really looks like a helmet that had dreadlock things like like sewed into them yeah um and yeah it's a hard experience when i wear that it's not good either so yeah you know

my dreadlock hat you're definitely not getting the reactions you thought you were getting you're like wearing that knit cap this is just because i like bob marley guys yeah it's fine it's a tribute yeah every time you go i i told you don't go in that fucking barber shop and say wagwan i'm telling you bro it's not gonna fucking work out for you the way you think it is yeah hey wagwan bro oh no get him out of here get him out dude did you see that fucking i saw a couple clips on twitter and i don't know if they're bs or whatever that's all all fucking you know i'll give you that caveat before but like it looked like there were literally just full on empty theaters of Madam Web.

Like people would be like, I'm at the showing. It's me and my homeboy. And there's nobody else in here. I mean, that shit happens. I've been in plenty of movie, I guess, maybe not on opening weekend. Yeah. uh yeah yeah when i saw uh that netflix movie uh leave the world behind like the when it was out and they were just like i had completely given up on it it was it was my wife me and nobody else in the entire year um so yeah i mean but madame webb was like had a whole press tour like leave

the world behind. They were just like, yeah, we'll see if anybody watches on Netflix. Uh, Madam Web was like, they, like I had, I wasn't even close to their, their, in all the multiverses in my, where, where I exist, I did not see Madam Web, like not in 0% of them. Did I see Madam Web? where i exist i did not see madame webb like not in zero percent of them did i see madame webb but i knew that shit existed like in probably most of them um you i mean couldn't miss it but yeah somehow like that just nobody wanted to see that shit pretty well it's it's uh i mean they spent not that much. They said the budget was around $100 million for a superhero movie.

That is pretty tame. Yeah. And yet, way too much. Yeah. Sony, leave the Spider-Man shit alone unless it's that real Spider-Man or the fucking animated shit. Because that's the only thing that people are fucking with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they're really trying to...

There's already shady like, shady fucking stories in The Hollywood Reporter. Inside Sony's Madam Web Collapse. Forget about a new franchise. The flop is wiping out an entire plan for a new movie series as the studio becomes

the latest superhero studio in need of a pivot. Yeah, just, again, leave it alone. There's... You could have used these same actresses and done maybe an original film

that had nothing to do with spider-man look you can't we don't know that bob marley had superpowers but we don't know that he didn't oh no all we're saying is i can see a white guy who's like, I mean, his hair is kind of like spider webs. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, and maybe his power is like one love. He can make everyone sort of just succumb to the power of love or something. I don't know. Let's think about it. All right.

Well, those are some of the things that were trending over the weekend. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye.

Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.

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