The Daily Zeitgeist - Scholastic Book Fail, Prada X NASA Collab 10.12.23

Episode Date: October 12, 2023

In episode 1563, Jack and Miles are joined by super producer, Joelle Monique, to discuss… Sh*tshow 2024: RFK Jr. Will Now Run As An Independent, FOX IS MAD AT HIM, Scholastic Book Fairs: Now With Mo...re Censorship, New NASA Spacesuits Will Be Made By Prada For Some Reason and more! Sh*tshow 2024: RFK Jr. Will Now Run As An Independent RFK JR's Campaign Speech Failure Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s 2024 Launch Goes Viral For Wrong Reasons Biden Should Probably Be Worried About RFK Jr. RFK Jr. goes independent. Does that hurt Biden or Trump? Republicans turn on Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as he launches independent bid How Trump's Vaccine Support Is Splitting His Base RFK Jr. super PAC got $5M from megadonor who had backed Trump Pro-RFK Jr. Super PAC Has Deep Ties to Marjorie Taylor Greene, George Santos Scholastic Book Fairs: Now With More Censorship The nostalgic joys of the Scholastic Book Fair, explained BOOK FAIRS WILL SEE AN INCREASE IN CENSORSHIP ATTEMPTS THIS YEAR Scholastic Under Fire for Allowing Schools to Opt Out of ‘Diverse Books’ for Book Fairs The Fleeting Magic of Scholastic Book Fairs LET ME RUIN YOUR CHILDHOOD: THE INEQUALITY OF SCHOOL BOOK FAIRS Scholastic Accused of Misusing Book Clubs Inside the Succession Drama at Scholastic, Where Harry Potter and Clifford Hang in the Balance New NASA Spacesuits Will Be Made By Prada For Some Reason What Did Playtex Have to Do With Neil Armstrong? The improbable story of the bra-maker who won the right to make astronaut spacesuits The astronaut wears Prada: Axiom taps fashion house to help design spacesuits for 2025 NASA moon mission What to know about Axiom Space, the company behind the first all-private mission to the ISS LISTEN: Sambassim by DJ PatifeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have
Starting point is 00:00:46 changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti
Starting point is 00:01:02 and I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation,
Starting point is 00:01:22 then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 308, episode four of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is Thursday, October 12th, 2023. Oh, yeah. 10-12. You know what that is, Jack?
Starting point is 00:01:50 Just tell them. Just say it. Just make up a day. There's probably a chance it's on. Yep. 10-12. National Pineapple Ice Cream Day. Oh, very close.
Starting point is 00:01:59 World Sight Day. National Vermont Day. National Free Thought Day, which kind of raises some hairs. National Savings Day, National Gumbo Day. I think probably the most important for all. Obviously, respect to gumbo. Respect to all
Starting point is 00:02:15 cooking. That's the question that comes from us. We must respect the gumbo. Alright, well my name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Honey Tree Evil Eye. You know I love booze. I can't help myself. I love booze and nobody else. Going out all night.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Going out. Doing some blow. Doing some blow. It's courtesy of Steaming Chuck on the Discord. It really, I've never been more certain that a dog was doing blow. Like had a major cocaine habit than I am. Honey Tree Evil Eye, of course, this is in reference to us discovering Honey Tree Evil Eye's real name. Or Spud's, McKenzie's real name was Honeytree.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Honeytree, Evil Eye. And that dog was, and not just because they were an icon of the 80s, but just the whole thing. The Hawaiian shirt, the kind of puffy face. That dog was, you know, not drinking bud light it was oh yeah fueling having a few nose beers too yeah a couple nose beers anyways i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray oh yeah aka i've got drills so don't go buying You can borrow If you will Social power
Starting point is 00:03:49 Is amplifying It's electrifying You better show up Play for Team Human Keep our garbage free of tools You better show up Drill a hole for me Then come to my barbecue.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Oh, shout out to the past guest, Douglas Rushkoff. Just share them drills, have a barbecue, and let's move forward. Shout out to Blinky Heck for that grease, a.k.a. the one musical. I do know the song, most of the songs, too. So thank you for putting that in my wheelhouse. I Got Shoes There Made of Plywood was one of the misheard lyrics from my, excuse me while I kiss this guy, misheard lyrics book that I've referenced in the past. Mongreens, as producer Brian has told us, yes. But nobody thought it was I Got Shoes There Made of Plywood.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I Got Shoes There Made of Plywood. shoes they're made of plywood i got a shoe they're made of plywood that feels they had like two yeah as i mentioned before they had two actual misheard lyrics and then they just were like in a writer's room being like fuck just all having a nervous breakdown trying to make up other what else can we do what else what else what else uh shoes they're made of plywood that's something people might have thought anyways miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant writer host producer behind shows like fake doctors real friends brilliant writer you can read at vulture the av club team vogue you've heard her on pop culture happy hour much more importantly on the daily zeitgeist because it is the brilliant the talented joelle monique the goddess of taste
Starting point is 00:05:25 i'm adding it to my monikers goddess of taste is an exquisite moniker thank you i mean it just feels very official you know what i mean yeah yeah i i'm down with that uh they reference me as their queen over on fake doctors here i'll be a goddess this is doing a lot for my yeah i really respect that no no no it's just it's look you just present yourself as you are and we are just observing and giving our objective analysis observations if we were just painting portraits over here this is kind of are you think wait was was ambrosia the goddess of taste oh she's a goddess of something i know she's got a salad that's not a salad and really weird yeah that's a weird salad yeah goddess of salads that aren't really salads along with like
Starting point is 00:06:17 tuna salad and chicken salad just yeah salad is in in other countries is a word that translates to mayonnaise oh wait ambrosia wasn't a goddess but a nymph oh sorry sorry don't my god is adjacent yeah yeah yeah exactly exactly you're kicking it with dionysus so you're good that's right the best god this is wine god this is probably the first time we've been three people on an episode of daily zeitgeist who saw each other in person very recently yes within the last 24 hours yeah 16 hours i would say damn that's what we do that's what we do we had a nice dinner last night with the whole team everybody that was there yeah yeah it was good select miles I said it was a good select. You selected the restaurant, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Miles pulled the restaurant. Good food. Good food. Yeah, look. I'm not a taste god. I'm merely just someone who likes to eat. You know, I'm not quite a deity yet. I'm trying, though.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I'm trying. I'll knight you as a goddess of evil. Thank you. Thank you. This is a knight in case. It has to be with a lightsaber, though, or else I won't respect it. All right, Joelle, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:07:33 We're going to talk about RFK Jr., who will now be running as an independent. And just the overall response to that news. We'll talk about the Scholastic Book book fair who responded badly to people being like they caught the woke mind virus we got okay okay okay okay yeah what do you want us to do you just tell us so pokemon cards instead of books about diversity jesus so we'll talk about that we'll talk about how uh the new nasa spacesuits will be made by prada for some reason. Yes. But this made me identify the spacesuit as something that looks way better than it has any. Like, it's, I don't know who. The fucking spacesuit.
Starting point is 00:08:14 The spacesuit looks fucking dope, man. And it always kind of has. And I'd always sort of taken it for granted that it did until they put it in this fashion context and now i'm like man like that that space suit is fucking dude fire like that orange one from 88 flights yeah we both pointed out the right the same one at the same exact time yeah because that shit is lit i feel like that kind of mainstreamed wearing like that sort of safety orange color as like uh like something part of the fashion palette you know what i mean yeah so having the taste goddess on with us we'll take a look at that well we also just want to identify
Starting point is 00:08:51 other kind of uniforms examples of uniforms or like you know clothing that are just way more fashionable way cooler than they have any right to be yeah so we'll talk about that we'll talk about the erotic thriller being back maybe kind of um and we'll talk about uh the seinfeld reunion that isn't happening just so anybody who's waiting on that so don't even no point in talking about it yeah but just so the point of talking about it is like it's, they're fucking doing another Super Bowl commercial. It's almost a Super Bowl commercial, right? All right. I guess.
Starting point is 00:09:29 I don't know. Let them know. What was the other one? Like Ferris Bueller, where they're like, a new sequel to Ferris Bueller? It's like, what? Why would anybody want to see that? What would it be about? But then it was a Super Bowl commercial with old Matthew Broderick doing Ferris Bueller stuff. And it was a super bowl commercial with old matthew broderick doing ferris bueller stuff
Starting point is 00:09:48 and it was fine it was able to sustain a whole 90 seconds which yeah anyways wow well that's like it would be funny if they had it come back together and like cameron who plays connor roy like alan ruck from from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. They fast forward and he's like, I was Connor Roy that whole time. No. There's one thing you don't know. Because wasn't it his dad's car that they fucked up? He was so scared of his dad.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Yeah. He's the main character of that story anyway. So when you come back, nobody cares about Ferris. It's like perfect kid who has a wonderful day. Not the key element of the story it's his best friend who's like trying to figure out what to do with his life as he's like on the precipice of going off to college uh and yeah i would definitely come back and watch a connor roy style like but he's a cool version of connor roy because he was like no screw you dad
Starting point is 00:10:37 i did fuck up your car and i don't give a shit he was gonna fold the second his dad got home he was gonna put ferris bueller in prison he was gonna be like dad ferris stole the car and he was like and he fucking like led a saint patrick's day parade and shit too like illegally and broke into a dance number with people to the principal like immediately the next day terrible tried to murder that principal dad yeah yeah cameron fry connor roy i mean it's yeah it's kind of right there folks i feel like that's like some kind of fan video someone would cut to try and make it seem like that was like young connor roy anyway there's an idea for people he's always been you know channeling a ruined scion of the wealthy so right you know that's it's a very specific thing but you know it's it's kept him enclosed for a
Starting point is 00:11:33 long time it's kept him doing pretty well kept him working anyways all of that plenty more but first joelle monique we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history okay so stay with me on this one best bread maker woman i was looking for the name of a woman who bakes bread really well her name is nancy silver in silverton oh yeah yeah yeah she created the bread over at labrea bakery It is so damn good. Google came back with like, here's a bunch of bread makers women might like. Not at all what I was looking for, but we found her eventually. And does that mean they're just bread makers, but they're pink?
Starting point is 00:12:16 Is that like? Yeah, here's a pretty teal one. Here's one that's easy to use. Women might like. Jesus Christ. The favorite one I came across was like, all you have to do is just dump all the ingredients in the bread maker and it'll knead and then bake the dough for you i was like i wouldn't trust this but i like the idea that out there someone's like i want bread without any effort but not enough to like go buy a loaf of bread right who wants to smell it i want to
Starting point is 00:12:42 make yeah i want to make fresh break baked bread without realizing i'm doing that right by accident i want to accidentally make fresh made bread whoa that's bread oh damn look at that i'm having that i'm having that it's why nancy silverton i'm the goat you know moza fucking have you been to um triple beam the pizza place i have not been to triple being lyrical supreme love it i will be lyrical dream i'll be that yeah yeah shout out to chris wallace uh yeah yeah that's that place is fantastic also roman style pizza i believe is what they call it yes she's all about that uh limited ingredients like i want to taste the freshness of the ingredient and i want every dish to be simple so that limited. She was like, I want to taste the freshness of the ingredient.
Starting point is 00:13:25 And I want every dish to be simple so that you are purely enjoying the natural taste that Earth has given you. And I think that is a beautiful philosophy behind food. Also, she was like a chef owner at a very young age. She made bread so good. She once made Julia Child's cry on TV. I think Julia was going through something at that point by the way the whole time julia's like oh this is very nice you know i love your little store so cute and nancy's like okay so here's the bread julia's child tastes it and she gets so quiet like like
Starting point is 00:13:58 placidly quiet and a single tear pours from her eyes and she says i'm sorry this is so good there's never no one's ever a compliment that tops that that's the top of compliments that's like i can't that's giving me chills and i'm like damn like i don't think what would be something like that i don't even know yeah god that tells you it's that creme fraiche brioche tart michael jordan compliments your free throw, maybe. Michael Jordan compliments the way I dunk from the free throw line. Yeah, exactly. Like, you dunk from the free throw line, and then he just comes up to you, like, crying in those same tears from, like, the last dance.
Starting point is 00:14:37 He's like, man, I just. Joe Rogan comes on our podcast with Bill Simmons and is like, dude, this podcast is tight. You know? Those are the objectively best podcasters, right? Based on numbers? Yeah. Hell yeah. If you can make a Marvel film so good, you change Scorsese's mind about Marvel films.
Starting point is 00:15:00 There you go. Tops. Tops. Tell him. I don't see him making any movies starring Iron Man, so maybe he should shut his big mouth. Joelle, by the way, you are a film critique, a film enjoyer, a film writer. Have you seen any of the big ones thus far that are coming up? Not really, unfortunately. thus far that are coming up actually so not really unfortunately i've watched a lot of old movies and
Starting point is 00:15:27 a lot of really old television lately because of the strikes i haven't you know i've been more focused on the week i was like this is a great opportunity to catch up on a lot of old on everything else yeah so i've been watching doctor who okay for like starting in the 2005 relaunch of that series which is really great reading a lot of audiobooks also great yeah you know i kind of stuff house dr medicine dr quinn medicine woman sounds like you can't think of which doctor you've been watching dr octopus oh man being a dad like, these jokes just flow through me. We know. I have to say them.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I have to say them. I'm sorry. We know. And we keep them in. And we keep them in the show. We teach you a lesson. Just so you know. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:16:18 What's something you think is overrated? Okay. Don't get mad, internet. Just calm down. I think physically reading a book is overrated because we now have audio books with expert narrators and you could just be going about doing the mundane things you have to do as an adult okay while you're eating your spinach and doing your dishes somebody with voice level talent will come in and read you a book so good and so like captivating you won't be able to put it down you can walk your dog you don't have to stop and read and i have add
Starting point is 00:16:52 my hands get fidgety so when i'm reading i'm like i'm either up and pacing or like i'm putting it down and getting sidetracked and daydreaming and thinking about other stuff i love physical books i have many i'm about to buy another bookshelf to store all of my books. But I really, really enjoy doing the audio books. I just got an e-library card, which I think is the best thing I've done ever. I've stopped giving Amazon money to buy one new audio book a month. And now I read like five audio books a month because I have my library card. Libby, the best app.
Starting point is 00:17:26 It's so good. You can do and you can still physically read books if you want to. Yeah, yeah. Which I think is great. The only problem, and it's not even really a problem with Libby, in order to be reasonable, they have to purchase the audio books and then lend them out at like a regular rate. It's like one at a time. Right. Yeah. They'll have like 30 copies and each one will be out pretend this is a tape yeah exactly so so then you have to it's
Starting point is 00:17:52 a week's long wait list sometimes there's a hot new book like the sequel to a book i just finished is coming out in a couple of weeks they're like you're 756th in line i was like what what no okay fair may have to buy the book anyway but i really like it especially because sometimes if i'm I'm 156th in line. I was like, what? No. Okay. Fair. May have to buy the book anyway. But I really like it, especially because sometimes if I have a physical copy of a book, I'm like, this is really hard to get through. Or I'm feeling like a little stuck or I need to get up and do other things. I'm like, let me just go see if it's on Libby and I'll just skip forward to the chapter I'm at. And now I'm picking up right where I left off.
Starting point is 00:18:22 It's a beautiful thing. And I just don't, I know some people are very like anti the audiobook but that's not real reading and I tell you the story got here all the messages they were trying to convey still up here in the brain I think it's totally valuable yeah I definitely have that like weird thing inside my head where like I'm like this ain't reading it's listening but also I'm like but i'm taking in the information i know like there's a lot of there's always like think pieces about like is it i like i listen to an audiobook for my book club am i bad um you're like look it's it depends you know like sure you're gonna engage your imagination a little bit more when you're reading a book but like some
Starting point is 00:19:02 books like you're gonna they're gonna hit the same whether you're reading them or listening to them obviously like a technical manual probably not easy to like read because you kind of need to see all the shit out there yeah i don't know i mostly read fantasy novels anyway like right and so being able to somebody who has like all the voices and the cool stuff reading words that are not real words that the author made up. And now I know the actual pronunciation. That's beautiful. Really appreciate that. And then, too, I think that there's something really magical about, like, I don't know, carpet time where we got to read a book.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Like, our teacher would read us a book before nap time. It was my favorite time in school. And there's definitely something being recreated in listening to an audio book about that. I don't think there's any less imagination if I'm still closing my eyes and picturing what's happening in the book if someone's reading it to me it just frees me up to be a little bit looser with it i think look it don't i think where it gets like weird is like don't let it dissuade you if there's something that interests you like no i can't listen to that i have to read it don't put that off if you're gonna if you're gonna engage with the information then just do it it's better than not engaging with like new
Starting point is 00:20:09 ideas or information so fuck it there are some books that i have to physically read like tony morrison's jazz i tried to listen to the audio it's like my favorite book i read it like once a year but i can't listen to the audiobook because there's a rhythmic syntax that the narrator isn't hitting. And I was like, this is, I can't sink into what's happening here. I have to read it in the format of her language that she like physically wrote. Or I'm reading Babel right now. I bought a physical copy
Starting point is 00:20:36 while it's being read to me for that. Because reading it was a challenge because it's in multiple languages, right? So like the main character is chinese and so he's speaking a different language and then he has to switch back to english and i don't understand all the words but you know if somebody's reading it to me oh man now it's like i can just take it all in a lot easier i can follow along i can highlight and take notes in my book while it's me i just love it i think it's fabulous yeah yeah i think having both options available
Starting point is 00:21:00 to me is really like my sweet spot of like that is when i really take in a book if it's being read to me while i'm reading it like you're getting both because i'm definitely more of a like i have created like cheats like i've found i've explored all the different apps for like having text read to you like and have like different you know i have our doc sometimes like the doc that we use to you know structure our show i have that read to me sometimes but like being able to read it and have it read to you at the same time like is how i i've had great experiences with that the past couple years and yeah you can also like gravity's rainbow i'd never made much of a dent in and when i was on vacation last year
Starting point is 00:21:45 i was able to like get hundreds of pages into that by having it read to me while i was reading it with my eyes and then i right then i lost steam when i got back it's also not our fault we don't live in a world of like public transit because you can't be able to read a lot on like public transit or like while you're waiting for the bus if you can't do like motion sickness and stuff but in la we're all in our cars all the time. And I think that this helps us bridge a gap. This is how we catch up to New York in our books read annually. That's right.
Starting point is 00:22:12 We need to be as smart as New York. We need to offset the difference between our cities. Yeah, thanks for listening. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll hear what you think is underrated and get into some news. We'll be right back. hear what you think is underrated and get into some news. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:22:32 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts,
Starting point is 00:23:07 the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive me for I have followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to forgive me for I have followed on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer,
Starting point is 00:23:58 we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career. Without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history.
Starting point is 00:24:45 People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:24:54 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:25:10 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And Joelle Monique, what is something that you think is underrated? Multiple birthday celebrations.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Yeah. Let me tell you. Okay. So some people get really offended when they're like, your birthday is a day. And that is all you get. I have never subscribed to that because my birthday is October 1st. And so my birthday month starts with my birthday and ends with Halloween. It is a perfect bookend month.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I'm not going to stop celebrating simply because the day has passed. Makes zero sense to me and i have like a lot of friends from different groups that you know not all of them are going to overlap but you kind of want to like celebrate and hang out with all of them uh you don't want people to feel upset when they're not invited to your party then that becomes a whole thing so my workaround has been i'll do a lot of small parties i had two or three friends so i like my very first party this year we went to a super nice restaurant which of course i can't remember the name of it now and then we went and saw the musical hadestown which was so good so i had a fancy night with my
Starting point is 00:26:38 fancy friends then i went to discano gardens which is like a a like a big let's call it the orborium is that what it is it's a yeah it's it's a it's it's like a arboretum or yeah you call it an arboretum slash uh gardens they're yeah what do you call that floral what the fuck am i looking for like huntington huntington garden this is what it's called just garden but isn't it like a botanical garden botanical botanical gardens there it is they got all the different kinds of flowers rose sections and lilies and lilacs and right now it's halloween themed which means they have giant pumpkins that are carved they have like pumpkin statues and hay mazes and little installations yeah i mean like like yeah like you can take your two-year-old
Starting point is 00:27:26 there yeah i went there with my little baby yeah yeah the guy's child was loving it yeah yeah they got they got the lights that are flashing it's beautiful so many people run out of the woods with fake chainsaws no no not even close not even one jump scare they never mind then they have people all along the path. It's funny because we did talk about that. We had the impulse to be like, should we just start scaring these children and teach them what Halloween is really about? But that's inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Wait, what are you going to do when your parents age and you're responsible for their medical bills and you're just trying to build your own life? What? Oh, sorry. That's just a thought my generation has that we're deeply afraid of that we aren't really considering yet and how medical debt could maybe be ours anyway you're going going you're not prepared uh yeah so it was we rolled i think like 15 deep which is great is a real like you walk about like a mile maybe it's
Starting point is 00:28:20 looking very casual like weaving through things they have churros there if there's churros it's gonna be magical yes yes and candy i can't do candy apples because they make my teeth hurt by sticky and you have to bite into it and it's also hard i just don't think they're meant for adults to eat i think that's the thing you can do when you have a second set of teeth coming in and it doesn't matter what happens behind your adult teeth oh yeah i got unlimited teeth my teeth i got i got rat teeth they just keep growing kind of grind them down the light wait do rat teeth keep growing yeah they just keep growing and as they get longer like so they have to like chew on things to like grind them down to keep them from getting oh in their mouth okay
Starting point is 00:29:02 oh every aspect of the rat is horrifying. It truly is. Hey, man, that's my Zodiac year. You know, I'm a rat. But it explains why my teeth always... I'm about to file them down in three months. The rat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:15 So most of all, birthday celebrations. Have them. I got... What are we doing next week? Apple picking. We're going to apple picking. Amazing. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:29:23 I like, though, too, you're not trying to do a thing where, like, everybody come to this nightclub and pay for my drinks. You're not apple picking. Amazing. Oh, nice. Yeah. I like, though, too, you're not trying to do a thing where, like, everybody come to this nightclub and pay for my drinks. You're just like, hey, it's a reason to get together, you know, and that's it. It's not. Because I remember when I was younger, there were people who did the very fucking, like, main character type of, like, birthday two weeks. And you're like, wait, what the fuck? I'm being summoned to another fucking club for someone's birthday. And I like i fucking hate clubs and no like i'm not paying for your shit you
Starting point is 00:29:51 gotta circulate through different friends or family like this is my family party this is my girls party this is my pros party this is my nerd party like break it up into groups so that you're not overtaxing people or demanding too much i also think it's great my friend cheyenne just had her birthday party and she was like tapas place nothing over 15 wherever you're at financially you're gonna have a good time like this is brilliant brilliant easy easy all right yeah well speaking of brilliant r RFK Jr. What are you, Fox News two months ago or two weeks ago? Yeah, right. You know, guy sees the matrix.
Starting point is 00:30:30 He sees through it all. And he, you know, first he was running as a challenger to Joe Biden as the Democratic spoiler. And, you know, he had a rocky start to his campaign. He was at a campaign event that was ruined by a deafening fart. And in that same campaign event, he was filmed claiming that COVID was genetically engineered to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people. So just some light anti-Smitism and xenophobia there yeah to kick things off yeah for everybody yeah i'm sure i have to imagine he came back and said i don't have an anti-semitic bone in my body i don't know he did he did say something it was something to
Starting point is 00:31:19 that effect yeah of course but it's like you guys aren't getting what i'm saying it's like well no we're talking about what the implication is of what you're saying. president as an independent and because there's no vaccine for incompetence and even if there was he wouldn't take it it did not go well he yeah um like first there was like a a thing up that what was his it was his campaign slogan uh where is saying, like... Where is it? Declare your independence was what it was. So the first thing that happened, his new campaign slogan is declare your independence. And then people heard one of his campaign managers frantically going around being like,
Starting point is 00:32:18 declare your independence off the TV. Take it off the TV. We're not ready to reveal that yet. We're not ready to reveal that yet. And not we're not ready to reveal that yet and so they just like changed it to like the signal bars like the multi-color bars yeah the things have gone wrong with whatever tv signal that so that goes up instead meanwhile there's a big sign that says declare your independence like right behind. Yeah. Physical sign there. Just right there. And then he finally gets up on stage and sets up to reveal his, to, you know, make his speech and then leaves, leaves the stage again. Dude, just listen to this.
Starting point is 00:32:55 He shows up. It's so comical. He's like, he's acting like me, like on a first date where I do the thing where I forgot my wallet so I don't have to pay. He's like, oh shit, I don't have my fucking. He's like, oh, shit! I don't have my fucking speech! And then it turns into just a carnival. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:33:11 He's taking the stage, patting his pockets. Ah! I need my speech. People are laughing. Hot mic. Hot mic. You can't read anything what
Starting point is 00:33:29 this is real what then comes back to lectern goes back again he looks like he's like starting to get pissed he says the teleprompter's now upside down. The crowd is losing energy just waiting. It's so bad.
Starting point is 00:33:55 But it's like this whole choreographed media thing where there's a swooping crane shot coming in over the audience to an empty lector. And he's patting his coat. He doesn't look like he's dealing well with it you know like a pot like some politicians would just like roll with it and be like charismatic and be like you know this is no big deal yeah he looked like he was like someone was getting fired for him having forgotten his speech was the impression that you got so yeah no vaccine for incompetence,
Starting point is 00:34:26 unfortunately. And of course he would not take it. I just wanted to repeat that joke from our writer, JM. I thought it was good. So he may end up being the most formidable independent candidate since Ross Perot. Like despite all of this,
Starting point is 00:34:44 despite the antisemitism, despite the anti-vax stuff, anti-vax stuff, or possibly because of the anti-vax stuff, he, you know, this now puts him in a position where he's going to like, currently he's pulling at around 14%,
Starting point is 00:35:02 15% is what is required to like get into the presidential debates so this man could be in the presidential debates spreading vaccine truth or bullshit which is not not great for the future of the country not great for i don't know like it everybody's claiming this is like a a win for their side but when when you look at like who's actually freaking out about it it does seem like the the republican side is pretty unhappy with oh yeah development i think whoever i think this is certainly aliens versus predator, whoever wins, we all lose type situation with him coming and joining and like being just any any extra RFK Jr. that the public gets is probably an L for the public. Right. is like like you're saying the second he's like yeah i'm running as a democrat right the right wing media loved him because they immediately like just saw him purely as this is gonna this is gonna be a biden spoiler we love this guy we fucking love this guy to the point that he was having more weekday appearances on fucking fox than even like ron desantis was and he was getting
Starting point is 00:36:21 name checked more than mike pence was when uh media matters was doing like an analysis of fox's coverage of him and it started off so rosy so lovely uh we were hearing all kinds of things let me play something here this is jesse waters uh coming out right around the time that he announced his campaign to be like this guy's this guy this democrat gets it so rfk jr has a vision i mean at least he has one biden has none rfk jr's lane is on the populist left unlike biden he's against the deep state obviously because of what happened to his dad and uncle anti-censorship remember the biden white house censored him over vaccines he's riding a hot anti-corporate streak especially against big
Starting point is 00:37:06 pharma and big tech and then so it goes on to be like this guy like you know this guy's actually this guy's got a head on you know there's something about this guy uh here's even uh sean hannity who at the time was like this guy's got something like this is because rfk is also doing this stuff of like we need to strengthen the southern border and doing that whole xenophobic thing that appeals to people on the right. So here's Sean Hannity praising RFK when he visited the southern border. Wow, that's a Democrat. RFK delivering a much needed dose of reality to the entire Democratic Party, all while gaining real support and sparking quote jitters inside of Bideniden's orbit he's also against
Starting point is 00:37:46 biological men and women's sports and was dead set against how the country was treated with regards to covid and his candidacy is getting very interesting oh he's going yeah this guy's also a transphobe and so he's good it's biological men and women's sports. Yeah. That's verbatim. Are you just against men and women playing sports? What's happening, sir? Biological men in women's sports. Men in women's sports.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Which is what they think is one of the... I just thought he was very confused. They're playing together? What's next? Mixed doubles? Yeah. they're playing together what's next mixed doubles yeah they not in my country club well miles the fox news is traditionally very ideologically consistent and i can't imagine that they've changed their tune now that he's no longer running as a democrat right like it would seem like if he's not running as democrat make make them like him more right yeah i mean i don't know here's here's fucking rfk two nights ago on hannity and hannity just fucking comes for his neck he's like you think
Starting point is 00:39:00 the nra is a terrorist you supported hillary like just be like you're a lib asshole, aren't you? Wow. Here's just a little bit of that exchange when Handy just fucking put him to the against the wall. Here we go. So you made in 2016, 17, 19 endorsements. We know the years Gore, Kerry, Obama, Hillary, Bernie Sanders. They're all recent quotes. The NRA quote you made about calling them a terror group was 2018. all recent quotes the nra quote you made about calling them a terror group was 2018 so these are these are recent positions you've had that i'm not sure why the democratic party wouldn't allow you to compete do you want to uh talk about my position sean yes sir yeah yeah yeah i want to read talking points from the Trump campaign.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Excuse me. These are not talking points. These are called Hannity points. I do my own research. Oh. Okay. These are called Hannity points. That is such a dad arguing with a teenager type rhetoric. It's like they aren't called.
Starting point is 00:40:04 These aren't called. It's not called aren't called. These aren't called. It's not called unfair. They're called daddy's rules. Yeah. Okay. That's what's going on. And I did my research. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:13 We're not having an argument. I'm telling you how it is when you live under this roof. Right. I don't need to explain myself. I'm the parent and you're the child. Okay. These aren't trump point these are daddy's points these are hannity points trademark uh do my own research like he did it all like he
Starting point is 00:40:33 hit the whole all like all of the great retorts that you do and sounds like what are you even saying i do my own research man thank you and i guess it makes sense because really for all the talk of like oh he's gonna to spoil Biden's campaign or whatever. It's there's you got to consider RFK Jr.'s appeal with anti-vaxxers. And when you couple that with the outrage from a lot of MAGA people, when like we've talked about when like Trump has been like, and I developed the vaccine. People like, fuck the vaccine. Fuck you. People were like, fuck the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Fuck you. That's when you start to kind of see where they might be like, oh, is he going to take our voters a little bit? Who knows here? Which way is it going to crumble? But yeah, they're a little sweaty times right now with Fox. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:41:25 And like a lot of his campaign up to this point was funded by right-wing groups so like he kind of pulled a yoink on him you know yeah and was like yeah i'll take your funding that's great i'm gonna challenge biden and trump i'm gonna fuck both their campaigns up oh yeah okay well we'll see yeah you we'll see. Yeah. You hate to see it, Miles. You really hate to see it. You really do. The deep state, though, Jack, what do you think? Got him, his dad, and his uncle. Because of what I did to his dad and his uncle.
Starting point is 00:41:55 You get it. Damn, that's just straightforward, self-evident declaration that the CIA killed RFK and JFK on Fox News. Yeah, yeah. Well, no, people don't. TheyK on, on Fox news. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no, people, people don't,
Starting point is 00:42:07 they, they just go, the deep state did it. The deep, whatever that is, this abstraction we just called the deep state. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:12 They, they did that. They did that. Probably the guys who tried to impeach Trump are the ones who did it. Yeah. Same guys. They're still alive. They're old though now.
Starting point is 00:42:19 So they're not as spry as they used to be. All right. Uh, let's talk about scholastic book fairs. They're still out here. My kid's school had one where- With the big red bookcases still? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I think they have the big red bookcases. Yeah. They come in, set up big bookcases in a place that doesn't, like, not in the library. No, it's like in the parking lot. In the gym. Yeah. Ours is in the parking lot. I love these. Did you guys love like when scholastic
Starting point is 00:42:48 came to town like jack we just had a whole conversation about books i was like queen of scholastic book my mom would be like here's a sharp 20 which if you spent your money wisely you get like up to four books yeah probably like two and some stickers and like a nice bookshelf or a bookmark yes a pencil eraser would be great i usually went for bookmarks i was always losing and bending them but it's like the best time of year and if you were had on that pizza hut additional scholastic stuff where you got a pizza and then like scholastic points were they doing that when y'all were kids no way what what did they do yeah they were doing the they were doing the pizza hut when i when i was a kid yeah i think you like would read so many books and then like
Starting point is 00:43:30 take your stuff and they would give you like the little like either like a coupon thing or like yeah something oh yeah we used to fly to get that lies oh my pizza hut interrogated me using the Socratic method to find out if I read the books. I love that. Yeah. No, we did that. Like our school would have days that we're just reading. It was like once a year, but they would have a day where you would bring a blanket to school and just pick a spot. People were spread out with their books in the hallway.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And you just read the whole day. And it was like a competition to see if you could like how many pages you could put away. Wait, really? Yeah, it was, that was fun. Shout out to Magzig middle school and outside Dayton,
Starting point is 00:44:18 Ohio. I never even had shit like that. That was like a day off. Yeah, it was fun. That was, that was middle school, but that was, that was, well well i want to go back to middle school then me too although madison style less cool now because uh as of you know scholastic still major thing it's holding 120,000
Starting point is 00:44:39 book fairs at schools across the u.s. as of 2017. But recently, they have been responding to people saying the book offerings are too diverse and they're forcing the woke agenda on our kids. Some school librarians have been posting on social media accusing Scholastic of giving schools an option to exclude diverse books from their fairs, including books on racial and LGBTQ plus issues. These are the books, like some of the books that are being like blacklisted are, I can't look. One is called Alma and how she got her name.
Starting point is 00:45:18 It's by one of our house. It is the least. It's yeah. It's a Caldecott honor book. You know, that gold seal when you're like this shit is approved for children it's about the origins of a girl's name uh you are enough it's a book co-written by an 11 year old model and actress with down syndrome uh change not on
Starting point is 00:45:36 my watch asshole yeah what oh my no don't show kids that. Don't let kids accept themselves. Change Things, that's by Amanda Gorman. Her book, Refugee by Alan Gratz. It's about three stories of 13-year-olds that are having to be refugees and shit from different perspectives and different time periods. And they're like, get this shit out of here. Don't push your empathy on my kids. You can't have them feeling empathy. Which is wild, too, because it's done so cynically that all of those books are within, like,
Starting point is 00:46:08 because you remember the Scholastic Fair is, like, they're, like, these, like, metal cases that fold up in half, and then they wheel them in and out and then unlock them and open them up. So, apparently, they just have one of those red cases that has all the, ooh, diversity books in them. So, they're super easy to just excise from the fucking book fair. Horrifying. Some librarians who opt to accept the diverse book case aren't getting
Starting point is 00:46:34 it in time for the start of the fair. What? Sorry guys. This one is heavier than the other ones. Fell off the truck again. I don't know scholastic is a for-profit company that continues to support jk rowling you know and be like yes well she
Starting point is 00:46:54 has her opinions but uh she also made us a lot of money and continues to make us a lot of money will forever make us a lot of money i could forget like listen jk rowling is a terrible person and we do not support her in any way shape or form i could forgive a company being like uh this 11 million dollars can help me like fund like 27 000 artists coming up i i wasn't a problem with that but the idea that you're going to remove diverse books from children's access is mine but like i can remember like i got books about like indigenous peoples like books about like like mexican cult like my first like chapter books about like other cultures directly came from the scholastic book fair and the idea that they're not available anymore and especially when you like zoom out and consider that most of these like book banning it's like
Starting point is 00:47:43 what 11 people who are just hopping around to different school districts being like hey get these books need to be banned and people are folding to the pressure of a very small tiny group of people who are just extremely loud it's so disappointing yeah it's there are like reports of like parents just basically putting the money together if the school even denies having one and the parents have just been putting it on too like they're it's interesting to see how there are responses from parents who like this is fucked up he's like they deserve to have this fine that we'll fucking foot foot the bill to at least get the fucking bookcases somewhere but this has kind of been like they've been doing shit like this for a minute there was like another book that
Starting point is 00:48:22 uh was about like these uh this woman who's japanese-american was talking about like it's like a story about how her parents met like in the japanese internment camp in world war ii and then the scholastic version of it they asked her to take out like a phrase about like like the racism of america at that time and another paragraph about it and everyone was like are you fucking for real right now? In her artist statement. They wanted her to censor her artist, not even content from the book that you're already selling. It was like her artist statement in the back of the book
Starting point is 00:48:52 about why she made it. Why were you censoring your own artist? Like, that is an insane thing to do. And to your earlier point, Miles, like when I think about the books being banned, like Matthew Cherry's Hair Love, which is literally about a little girl who really wants to have her hair done nice because she's going to go visit her mom. And dad has to learn how because she's not walking out of this house not looking good.
Starting point is 00:49:13 And then it turns out she really wanted to look good because her mom has cancer and just shaved all of her hair off. And they used to have fun doing her hair in cute styles. That's the entirety of the book. At what point are you offended or do you need to protect a child from that right like those images like it's just so sinister they're going to learn about the associated costs of cancer treatment and then you're going to probably start advocating for medicare for all or universal health care or some shit like that it's like really wild it really is like at every level it's like they they're trying to like dull the development of like a sense of empathy from kids like in anything it's like why can't it just be about those kids that live in that
Starting point is 00:49:49 dang box car right they were poor they had a good time you know yeah they bootstrapped it out of that box card in they yeah this i there there's also you know there's been the unexplicitly right-wing book fair, Brave Book Fair, run by the opposite of Brave Book Fair. The Cowardly Lions Book Fair. Yeah. It's run by the Christian publisher that Kirk Cameron works with. And the website also provides banners with the language through which to demand books be removed from book fairs at schools. So they're just trying to use technology to spread lazy, like, you know, talking points and make it easier for people to start thought killing movements in schools. movements in right in schools and it's god bless the librarians out here doing the lord's work being like uh alarm needs to be raised so people know what's happening um and also making sure a
Starting point is 00:50:51 lot of these books stay accessible to children which i really like what's this new coloring book my little conf and it's like i don't know i don't know how that got in there but it is like you know it's it's just i think what we're seeing like to your point joelle is like it's just a capitalist money-making machine so at every level just like how do we sell more books because that's why now it's like there's like not even books it's like part books and it's like you want toys we got that shit too and a lot of people like this isn't helpful like what the fuck is this they're like i don't know if i may thought a kid would want a remote control car or something too yes that's elastic is by no means like the a good option for this like they they've really like kind of created a monopoly and have a stranglehold on the market
Starting point is 00:51:35 and they yeah like you said they've been criticized by a consumer watchdog group for using their book clubs to push video games jewelry kits and toy cars to kids and it's also some gender normative shit for the kiddies you know what i mean yeah it can be fucked up for like kids who don't have the means to buy the books you know to like oh yeah yeah it becomes like a totally a flex off for third graders you know i remember i thought i was styling with fucking like the five bucks my mom gave me in first grade and at the time i got like a peewee scouts book and a bobby bonilla mets poster and i didn't even fuck with the mets but i had to max out that five dollars fuck it i'll fuck with bobby bow now in the mets um and then i remember i would see these other kids
Starting point is 00:52:26 fucking armfuls of books and i was that was one of the moments i was like am i do that is there such thing as rich kids like that's the first kind of that was my first taste of seeing like those that kind of difference in class obviously like difference than like you go to some kids house it was gigantic you're like holy shit oh how y'all living over here but before even all that because i would hang out with my friends our you know similar class seeing the kids come out with like 17 books and like everything from a case you're like oh yeah okay a little bit different i'm doing things a little bit different okay okay all good yeah we gotta get dolly parton to come in and teach us how it's done. She like eradicated illiteracy in Tennessee
Starting point is 00:53:07 basically. I think like 70 like increased literacy by 73% in children. She just hands out free books. I like that idea. If Scholastic was a real one, they would just be like, here's some free books to the school. Every child gets like two or three free books. Go ahead and read, children. Enjoy.
Starting point is 00:53:24 I think they're publicly's like i think they're publicly traded i think they're you know they have to look at shareholder value which is always what you want driving the education of your children is shareholder value yeah yeah they're on nasdaq hey all right man hey that's down pretty cool dude hey get in now man buy the dip all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i'm cleo gray former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
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Starting point is 00:57:06 And we're back. We are. And it was recently announced that the spacesuits for NASA's 2025 lunar mission will be designed by Prada. Hell yes. Despite the fact that there's literally nobody on the moon to impress with fancy clothes. The fact that there's literally nobody on the moon to impress with fancy clothes. I guess a lot of people will be watching as they go to the moon and Prada is going to have them looking good. The suits will provide, quote, increased flexibility, maybe increased flexing, you know, and greater protection for the astronauts. I don't buy that.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Okay. Increased flexibility. I'd be like, all right, they have access to like maybe different fabrics and like, you know, maybe on that. But Prada knows how to provide greater protection than NASA. That's. Yeah. I'm from space. How is it just because like they're just so good at textiles. Is that how they're just being like,
Starting point is 00:58:06 yo, okay. If like, we'll help you with the tech. No, I don't even know. Like, are they developing spacesuit technology or they're merely designing it?
Starting point is 00:58:14 How does it work here? I don't know. I think it's, I guess it's maybe the design. They're like, okay, have it dripped out. And they're like,
Starting point is 00:58:21 it's actually the, the suits are too slim, uh, to actually keep someone safe from the, the hostile environment of being in space. Right. Yeah. Very slim fit.
Starting point is 00:58:34 NASA space suit. Is this sleeveless with a deep V neck? We had to take out some tubes and shit, but we figured, you know, you got to suffer to look good right right right but i'm disappointed if these images are what prada has come up with not at all what i was expecting i was like oh we're about to get the new sleek hot shit uniform well the ones at the bottom is that
Starting point is 00:58:58 the one in the dock yeah those are those are just past those are the spacesuits up to this point oh okay all right pre-prada pre-prada before prada they uh prada has just been tapped so they're they're going into the lab right now because like here's the thing every year at the olympics whatever big designer is like out of your country comes in and they design your like the walk whatever that big walk is wherever all the countries come in yeah yeah exactly those all get designed and each year we could sit back like we are fashion aficionados and be like not the look this year tommy hill figure did not cash yeah how many hopefully it really hasn't hit since salt lake city uh those uniforms and then it's been like Ralph Lauren, hasn't it?
Starting point is 00:59:45 Did they switch to Ralph Lauren? Yeah, maybe that's why we're not hitting as much. I feel like we got to really embrace some new American designers. Virgil Abloh should have designed some opening uniforms. Absolutely. Before we lost him. Yeah. Or for Ghana, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Truly. We have like, and if we look back at like historically i think probably the most famous designer like couture designer uniforms are hugo boss's nazi uniforms which yeah you know obviously fuck the nazis but their uniforms were clean uh the the lines they were working listen listen hugo boss could cut a suit that's all we're saying period of the story the guy knew how to use some scissors i just feel like if we're not gonna collect the uniform no no no nobody said that nobody said that we brought all that wipe it from the earth they made good plates and cutlery okay i just like to show them to my other wealthy friends yeah but if we if we could get you know a designer in
Starting point is 01:00:46 here who could make it you know fashion i'm here for it i love pretty aesthetics i do too i think here's the thing all right so first of all like this story is just like so they were tapped to make the suits by axiom space the private space exploration company that recently inked a $228 million contract with NASA to modernize spacesuits. So basically, you know, huge sums of taxpayer money went to pay a corporate middleman who in turn hired a high-end Italian company. We'll see. Maybe they look super clean. This brought to my attention that some of the spacesuits to this point have been have looked awesome like way cooler than i feel like they had any right to look considering that they were designed by playtex like they that's who designed these yeah yeah wow like 81 the 281 spacesuits and the 88 orange one like we'll link off to this image are 81 is goaded 81 is so goaded yeah it's that's like the one that you always see like on astronaut ice cream
Starting point is 01:01:53 yeah like that the yellow one was like patches and shit it's oh give me that give me that that's what i say when i look at a spacesuit give me that and it just like there are because i i think i did have in the back of my head like those olympic sweatsuits where they everybody enters the stadium and those are things where they're like and we have our greatest fashion designers like designing these and they never look as cool as you want them to and i'm just wondering like what why why did the space suit looks as good as it did and you know what maybe we can call out some other examples of just like uniforms or clothes that are just like that go way harder than they have any right to go because like can we talk about okay the 60s uh pan am stewardess yes outfits well bam we're just talking fashion
Starting point is 01:02:57 my god pillbox blue like sleek mini skirts and stuff like you had to be model level hot to get high again. It was a sexist institution and we don't support everything about it, but the suits were clean. Yeah. I was going to say baseball uniforms because they, I don't know. First of all, the baseball hat has just become so iconic.
Starting point is 01:03:19 So like that, of all sportswear, that's the one that is like, you know, taken over, crossed over the most i'd have to assume like that but like part of it might be that the players are all like peak athletes they're not all but a lot of them are peak athletes so they look great in anything that you're going to put them in and unfortunately that is the one sport where the managers wear like elderly beer gut having managers also wear the same uniform and in those cases it's not quite as flattering but right i think that's fair because it tells you yeah the regular consumer
Starting point is 01:03:58 whether you're about to be able to pull this off or not like so you might want to wear your baseball top with a jean instead like let's create a cleaner line right at the bottom you can't untie socks too yeah you need to wear stirrups no need for that no need for that stirrups are such a flourish it's like they're purely decorative yeah you know it's just like you're not doing shit with that you're not doing anything in there just need a second pair of socks with like a little i think i mean i feel like the little thong at the bottom the easiest ones to like call out i feel like just from a fashion sense are probably like polo and rugby you know because like we think of like the rugby shirt as like now has just in just made its way as like a fashion silhouette polo obviously has like its own like you know uh she she aesthetic i don't know i feel like japanese school uniforms uh are
Starting point is 01:04:51 also like kind of iconic i don't know if they go harder than they need to but it is something that inspires like a lot of other stuff late 90s early aughts it was really influencing a ton of stuff at least in america we were seeing it everywhere. Because Sailor Moon, too, is like, you know, that's just sort of continuing that sort of, like, Japanese school sailor aesthetic or whatever. A hundred percent. I would also say basketball uniforms, especially as we consider, like, the basketball short and the absolute takeover that that had when we were in basketball shorts. It's called my uniform. Ay! Basketball shorts as long as your
Starting point is 01:05:25 pants yeah oh i used to have these shorts that were criminally long like mid shin and like i didn't have to sag them they were that fucking long and i used to wear another pair of basketball shorts under those in case like a game kicked off or like i can't ball in these baggy shorts but i got slightly less baggy shorts underneath them uh that was definitely yeah my uniform for real the basketball shoe i said the baseball hat the basketball shoe are the two most cross iconic yeah most iconic crossover athletic thing i I will say... And polo shirt, no? Polo shirt is definitely in there for sure. Like a long shot,
Starting point is 01:06:10 but if you ever get a chance to look up the fencing gear, fencing gear is pretty cool looking. It does look cool. It's not all practical. It cannot apply to your real life in any way, shape, or form. It looks like one of those things that you would see either not at all practical it cannot apply at all to your real life in any way shape or form but it
Starting point is 01:06:25 looks like one of those things that you would see either like that maybe this is what some of the characters in a clockwork orange were wearing like it has like clockwork orange vibes and also it it looks like something you would see on a fashion runway like at fashion week and you would be like well that's impractical and no one's ever gonna i'm never i'm never gonna see someone wearing that but right it does cut a fine fashionable silhouette we can also get into military stuff the bomber jacket yeah yeah hugely uh popular post what is it like world war two world war one yeah yeah well just like the leather bomber that's probably right after world war two and then then then comes like the what is like like the m1a jacket or whatever there is so much too that's just taken from like military standard wear the films like are over shirts but i think now you're
Starting point is 01:07:16 seeing more like it's more like you know like hard like more like construction type shit that's becoming more mainstream car heart kind of. Carhartt kind of stuff. And looking like a lumberjack, even though you'd be day trading on your computer all day. But you got to look rugged like Justin Timberlake. Let them know. But I do think 80s NASA spacesuit, probably not practical yet. But in the future, when it becomes impossible to walk outside yeah that'll be our protection that where i'm just saying like invest in nasa spacesuits there my kids were astronauts one
Starting point is 01:07:52 year for halloween and that you know very easy costume to put on take off right you know just like helmet and onesie it looked great like that that was when i first had this thought i was like damn those look so cool like they look great on you guys can we talk about a terrible uniform have you guys seen the spacex uniforms no oh bro they look bad they look real bad they look like bad trek uniforms they're like white and wait is this Wait, is this for real? Right? This is a joke man tent. Oh, yeah, this sucks. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:08:34 These look like people that die in a movie. You know what I mean? Like, these suits look like not up to whatever the fucking task is. This sci-fi film had a $12,000 budget. Yeah. They're like like what do you got to like i got this old jumpsuit from when i was doing painting jobs uh and i could use that with some like rubber boots and my ex-girlfriend's motorcycle helmet okay yeah you got it and all you really need is a turtleneck in space i guess because i don't feel like if i got jettisoned out
Starting point is 01:09:00 of a capsule that i'm surviving very long in this thing i don't are those because the shirts okay it looks like a pant and top set not a yeah like one body uniform the cold air is gonna seep in through there the cold air is gonna get in i don't like it i don't like it hideous guys i can't even begin to tell you how hideous these uniforms are right right it's wild dude i don't know these aren't really good uniforms but again you know it is what it is it is what it is all right well joelle thank you so much for joining us on this episode uh where can people find you and follow you and all that good stuff yeah uh i'm joel monique you can follow me all over the internet at joel monique that's j-o-e-l-l-e-m-o-n-i-q-u-e i don't have enough time to actually find the name of this
Starting point is 01:09:52 maybe i'll drop it so you guys can add it to the uh comments but there is an account on instagram where all they do is they strip the paint off of old dressers now listen it sounds boring as hell it sounds awful but what. It sounds awful. But what's really happening is these dressers are dirty and beat up. And they're the kind of dressers you'd find on the side of the road. And everyone would be like, ew, look at how tacky and trashy. They just strip and polish it. And suddenly it's a beautiful work of art that you would absolutely want to have in your home.
Starting point is 01:10:23 And all of the time, I hate buying new furniture because everything is built to last you like a max of seven years now unless you have crazy money to invest in like a solid oak something right this old furniture is still kicking around like if you put in very minimal work you could have beautiful pieces of art that will last you like another 50 years and i just think it's inspiring to create something really like a like this really touching story about a woman whose brother died and this was like the last thing that she had of his. She couldn't really sell it. She was like, I don't really know what to do with this. And the woman was like, just bring it over to my house and I'll repair it and fix it up.
Starting point is 01:10:52 And she didn't. The woman like bought it back from her. And now she has this beautiful piece from her brother's home in her house and it's restored. It's just, I just think it's really lovely to make old things new again. Amazing. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me on Twitter, formerly X, as well as threads, Instagram and the like, at Miles of Grey.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Been there, done that. Also, check me out, you know, on The Good Thief, 420 Day Fiance, and our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Got Mad. Boosties. And that's where we are at. Let's see. A tweet that I like. This one's from at Digital Earn. It said, talk to my therapist about 9-11 for like 10 minutes today.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Big milestone. She even told me that she's a fan of 9-11 memes. What a therapist. Wow. She even told me that she's a fan of 9-11 memes. That's weird. What a theorist. Wow. A tweet I've been enjoying. Katie Delaney tweeted, Hoping one day a magazine has occasion to do a profile on me
Starting point is 01:11:54 so I can finally find out, in beautiful prose, what specific vibe I give off when I enter a restaurant. A dream. Truly. That is the dream. You can find me on Twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes
Starting point is 01:12:14 and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we think you might enjoy miles what is a song that you think people might enjoy i think you might enjoy the drum and bass samba stylings of dj patife p-a-t-i-f-e and this track is called samba samba scene s-a-m-b-a-s-s-i-m and this just a nice little samba, a little drum and bass Brazilian vibe. Oh, wow. It's not that one? I was thinking of a different one. You caught me off guard with that one.
Starting point is 01:12:56 You snuck that one in. So yeah, check this one out. It's a great listen and just pretend you're in like a Miami cafe as you listen to this. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, we will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.
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