The Daily Zeitgeist - School Massacre Survival Pods, All Eyes On Brazil 08.23.22

Episode Date: August 23, 2022

In episode 1315, Jack and Miles are joined by producer of Some More News and host of Even More News, Katy Stoll, to discuss… All Eyes on Brazil, Back To School … With Armed Teachers? And more! A...ll Eyes on Brazil Back To School … With Armed Teachers? Bill that would have armed teachers rejected by Louisiana lawmakers Most Central Ohio districts won't arm teachers Which Is More Scandalous: The Training for Armed Teachers or the Training for Police Officers? Trained, Armed, and Ready. To Teach Kindergarten. A firm proposes using Taser-armed drones to stop school shootings Bulletproof safety pods for schools draw the internet's ire. An expert weighs in. LISTEN: Lalango by Malphino Robert Evans' tweet.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball
Starting point is 00:01:41 just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 251 episode 2 of the daily production of my heart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it is tuesday august 23rd 2022 what what does that mean oh man uh national cuban sandwich day
Starting point is 00:02:23 hell yeah all hail the cubano. Bang, bang. National Ride the Wind. I don't know what the fuck Ride the Wind Day is. National Sponge Cake Day. I like sponge cake. Okay. Mix it up, maybe. Put, you know, Cuban sandwich except with sponge cake.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Ham, pickles, mustard. Sponge cake. Yeah, absolutely. Disrespect both things. Yeah. Ride the wind, brother. Wait, what is ride? now i'm curious i'm like is that a saying is that like a white people saying i'm missing i don't know probably it's
Starting point is 00:02:50 probably some extreme sport like kite fishing or some shit jack you're pretty spot on it's about like anything that's like about gliding with the wind man yeah dude ride the wind brother yeah i should have known like it always comes i feel like it should just be ride the wind, brother. Right. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Blippi Blippi. Oh, no. He got to go.
Starting point is 00:03:17 He pooped on his friend's butthole. Blippi Blippi. Oh, baby. I guess he had to go. Blippi Blippi. Oh, baby. I guess he had to go. That is courtesy of at TDZBurner, another Zeitgeist listener,
Starting point is 00:03:37 going through the Blippi stages, the stages of the Blippi as a parent. My kid watches Blippi, and I shared this story with my wife, and she acted like I was the weird one. It's a weird one. It's a weird story. It's a hard story to tell to anyone. The child performer Blippi pooped on Strunk's butthole. Anyways, thanks for the AKA.
Starting point is 00:03:55 And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I said, how I get to Lambeau. We got blunts and dames we got everything you want honey we know the names we are the people that both host the podcast my boosties none of my nikes honey have got any creases get to lambo how i get to lambo hey look up at that okay shut up yeah you know look ever since dan o'brien came on talking about blimps and stuff uh blimps blimps have been in the zeitgeist with everybody i just thought you know what's so funny
Starting point is 00:04:36 did you guys do a video cracked about blimps or something because when i told her majesty about the blimp thing she's like yeah i know she's like oh i so now i know some shit you don't and i was like damn okay i think it may have been for a bit or something i don't know anyway it sounds like the sort of thing we would have done and i would have completely forgotten about hey speaking of crack videos miles we are thrilled to be joined by one of my favorite actors from those videos. Also a brilliant and talented producer of the must watch some more news with Cody Johnson podcast host of even more news and the dearly departed worst year ever. It is the brilliant, the talented Katie Starr. I can speak now. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Hi, guys. Hey. Hi. Love being here. You always make me feel so good about myself. It's great to have you. Big fans. And you recently relocated up to the mountains.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I sure did. Is that a thing you're sharing with the world? It sure is. I'm not going to share the specifics of the mountains. I mean, it's a big, big mountain range, but I'm not going to tell my specific town. It has been a journey. It's just like I threw a bomb in the middle of my life and it's good, but it's a big adventure. I'm up here. Are you a nimble? Are you good with change? I am good with change. Okay. So then the bomb is highly adaptable. I thought for a while, maybe I didn't, but the last few years have shown me that I am.
Starting point is 00:06:12 There's so many reasons why I decided to do it, one of which is that my folks are in the area and they're getting older. And I deeply miss them ever since I left for college when I was 18. And so it's kind of like now or never affordability. But also, I don't want to say emerged from the pandemic because we are still in the pandemic. But I emerged from the lockdown period of the pandemic with a different world. You know, I'm in my late 30s now. And that was like the tail end of the youthfulness. Now everyone's having babies and are married and whatnot. And it's exciting.
Starting point is 00:06:43 But, you know, I don't actually see my closest friends that often when I'm in L.A. anyway. You said the town you moved to was like a place you went for vacation growing up? The only place we ever vacationed was up here because I grew up in, you know, this was just the family thing my whole life. And my parents, it was always the dream to retire here. And they made that happen.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And in my mind, this was something that, you know, like I would maybe get a spot up here when I'm old, you know, or like someday keep my parents place and have that be a family spot. But it's just, it's reimagining what that dream looks like. And I did date someone briefly a while back and that was a big mistake. Um, up here, up here. Yeah. You were saying it was an old prospector? Yeah. Yeah. He just was so dusty all the time. Anyway, you said he'd, he'd scream at you when you touched his divining rod. Uh-huh. Yeah. And then once he brought up Jordan Peterson, I was like, later. That's why I got to keep your room clean. Yeah. But what that did show me was that it's not just old people up here or that there are more things to do.
Starting point is 00:08:00 There's different spots and there's lots and it's changing and so immediately after being up here i had vaguely tweeted about the mountains and then somebody reached out on twitter saying if it happens to be x mountains let me know and it was and she lives in this town and her and her like it's just changing people are doing what i'm doing so cool and while it is pretty conservative it is changing the democratic primary primary went for Bernie here. So, you know, it's been really exciting and challenging. And I don't regret it. Yeah, that's good. That's good.
Starting point is 00:08:35 That's good. It's all good stimulation. You're kind of living the dream of like I, you know, my version of that was Ocean City, New Jersey. you know my version of that was ocean city new jersey and every time i go there i'm always like man what if i just like moved here and like there there's only like a couple thousand people during the winter there and it's but it's still like i don't know nice and you're close to the ocean and the high school is good i i hang out at the at my local high schools a lot the kids the teens are so cool in this town super for the kids you guys yeah no i well jack there's something to that you know not that everybody should do exactly what i'm doing but i do think
Starting point is 00:09:19 that you have to think about we all not you i have to think about what is important and acknowledge that we don't have very much time here and the world is changing rapidly and intensely and so if there is something that you want to do that brings you some peace or if there is something that you want to do that you will say someday i wish i had explored that i don't i don't see why not because you can work from home. The challenging thing for me will be that I still want to act. I've done significantly less of that, but the whole reason I was able to do this is because my good friend Milana, they put me in a bunch of commercials. But auditions are all online and Zoom and and so like if you talk to your i mean i just encourage everybody to to think look at their lives a little differently maybe yeah and just you know we have we always
Starting point is 00:10:12 kind of yeah thank you milana thank you for my house i love you shout out milana vine troop uh all praise but yeah i think everybody you know you have those moments where you think of like oh my life will be good if i live this very specific way. Or you grow up thinking like, oh, my life will be this as an adult where this will be my job and I'll like that and I'll live here. But very quickly, like you learn to kind of distill those things down to like very simple things. And like sometimes like I don't maybe I don't need to live in X city or live in or work in X industry. It's really about what my environment is and what my day to day life actually is like. Right. Yeah. So it's really about what my environment is and what my day-to-day life actually is like right right yeah so it's always interesting like to kind of take that on and think like oh shit like actually i really kind of just want to sit near a river a lot like that might be more exciting
Starting point is 00:10:55 to me than to go to bars all the time or some shit where i've had friends do that who suddenly they're like nah i realized i i've i've i've focused my needs it really it was hammered home to me with i mean over and over over the past few years but with roe v wade that was so devastating and i was in my place in la and i wanted to get out i just needed to go and reconnect with nature or something and then you have to it's brutally hot you have to battle tons of traffic to get anywhere and it's parking and you just i felt claustrophobic first here you have a bad day and i i end up by going and kayaking right oh that's very cool that. Well, we'll see. And then I can always, we'll see. My life is long.
Starting point is 00:11:46 If this doesn't work out for me, then I can always reevaluate. Another kayak spot, you know? Ride the wind. If it's working out. If you got to. Ride the wind. My God, that sounds like a Bob Seger song, doesn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Ride the wind. I guess that's against the wind. It might be. Well, maybe he should have thought of riding the wind instead of going against it. Maybe it would have been a very different message. Yeah. All right, Katie, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about why at least my eyes are on Brazil.
Starting point is 00:12:30 This upcoming election is going to happen because they have a certified socialist candidate that is getting the majority of the support in opinion polls. They have a right wing authoritarian president currently in office who is like just mimicking the Trump playbook. And I don't know, it could go a number of different ways. So we're just going to talk about that and why it's fascinating and scary. We're going to talk about it's back to school time. And you know what? That means time to go out and do some back to school shopping. And for teachers, that means arming yourself with assault rifles in some places in America. Some places in America, we're going to talk about some of the solutions people are coming up with for school shootings in the United States that are in no way a symptom of a completely devastatingly fucked up society.
Starting point is 00:13:17 We're killing it, guys. This is good news. Wait till you hear it. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Katie katie we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history all right well i just set myself up for this now i'm researching two things generators and solar panels get off that grid girl get off that fucking grid i don't know though i haven't gotten very deep into it.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I actually was like, maybe I'll mention this on the podcast and then everybody will give me the answers that I need. Oh, yeah. Oh, there's people who work in solar and zeitgang because I had a question and a bunch of people hit me up about like inverters. They're like, oh, you need help. Did you end up deciding to do that? Yeah, yeah. I'm very I'm like on the precipice of embracing solar fully i think that i should but we do get snow but then i was reading that actually solar panels can work better at
Starting point is 00:14:12 higher altitudes oh shit okay and i don't know why but closer to the sun closer to the sun i mean that's what that's truly what they say about like getting high in place. It's like not that much higher elevation, you know. But like, you know, there are flight attendants are more likely to get like radiation from flying all the time at that higher altitude. And I know that I've heard and it could be old wives or old husbands. All the old wives need to we need to give them a break it's the old husbands who are fucking it up old husbands tales that like you have to wear sunscreen at higher altitudes even more because you're more likely to get a sunburn well i'll tell you what i haven't been getting burned up here but again not that much higher elevation
Starting point is 00:15:01 truly if you think about it not compared Not compared to a flight attendant flying. I wear more sunscreen on the second floor of my house. Yeah, that's smart. That's how I roll. That's just common sense. Yeah, not this time. You're right, Jack. Yeah, I am researching.
Starting point is 00:15:16 But solar panels, true, yes. But the generator is the first stop that I have to do. And that is an unfortunate, necessary expense because they have to put the, take the power offline, whatever the terminology is. You lose power regularly to prevent fires. So we love preventing fires. We love it, don't we, folks? We love it. You love me though, right? Okay, good. But yeah, it's true, Jack. 4% more powerful sometimes. Really? 4%?
Starting point is 00:15:49 Hey, man. Over time. Oh, every thousand foot increase, according to the National Institute of Health, UV levels increase by about 4%. So it adds up. It adds up. Also, time moves faster when you're at a higher altitude because less gravity. It does.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Truly. So maybe that's why the days slip away. I thought you were doing in some kind of joke like, you know, they say the days go a little bit slower. From a physics perspective, it's like indistinguishable in any sort of observable way. sort of observable way, but over the course of like millennia, I know, I know there was like a, something about how the core of the earth is like a hundred years younger than the crust because of just how time and gravity operate on one another, uh, which doesn't make sense, but it's real. What is something you think is overrated, Katie? it's real what is something you think is overrated katie boy i went back and forth on these on my overrated underrated all right this one no one's gonna be surprised by overrated presidents
Starting point is 00:16:53 i don't like presidents this was on my mind because i was having a conversation with my parents and they were talking about like well in terms of presidents you'd sure like to have bill clinton in your neighborhood more than donald trump and i went no i wouldn't and i don't want us to be talking about presidents like that we don't let's be done with the hero worshiping they're all bad people every single one of them who nobody wants to be president unless you're not well you want to have life and death power the decision to you know authorize drone strikes i don't think anybody who wants to be president is probably somebody that i want to be friends with and i unfortunately have to include bernie sand, although maybe he would be the exception to that rule.
Starting point is 00:17:45 But I don't know. Yeah. Presidents. Yeah. They're the greatest people. They're the greatest people. I got here to say it. They're probably our gods on Earth.
Starting point is 00:17:56 You know, they're not. I mean, overrated. Look, I don't know that anybody really overrates presidentsrates presidents these days oh I think for sure they do some people do yeah but it does set me up for my underrated well I I just want to say on the overrated that like I I'm always running to this whenever people talk or like when I watch the crown and like things like about about the British monarchy and how like there is in societies like these a need to believe that there is there are people who are like gods on earth yeah and like america just collapsed it into being both the head of state like the most powerful person in the country and also like the person that we
Starting point is 00:18:47 award this absurd symbolic like value to and it's yeah super unhealthy and super unhealthy and in general i don't know there it's all so divisive like i i was saying i don't know if i said this on the recording. I think this is before we started recording being up here and talking to people and realizing actually a lot of our differences are being manipulated by media and by politicians that want to win. And, you know, they they play into the whole culture war bullshit when truly we're. They play into the whole culture war bullshit when truly we're. I mean, there are awful, ugly people out there no matter what. But a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I think that we put so much power behind my Republican president, my Democratic president, and you become a hypocrite and then you lose all credibility with the other side. Like, I can't sit here and donald trump being a rapist and not also acknowledge that bill clinton is a fucking rapist right you know and we don't have to defend that just because we voted for him and we don't want to like be wrong you know yeah well i think yeah it's like it's easier to just be like yeah man it's fucked up to vote like presidents are fucked up right rather than like how could you say that about our commander-in-chief it's like how could i how could i say a thing that was reported about them right what are you talking about like what what does it fuck up your whole life if you go i don't want to acknowledge that that's ugly that's we can't talk about that it's like well it sounds like in general you're unwilling to like confront some of the ills
Starting point is 00:20:23 in society if you can't sort of like just sit with like the blunt truth of certain things and be like yeah that's not great because we can't fix it unless we fix it on all sides it's not okay if it's from our side you know and it i've just been thinking about that a lot and accountability in general is really lacking from people just in their personal lives, but just across the board. Like, well, I can't call out something unless I'm willing to acknowledge it with myself, too. Right. What's something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:20:55 Underrated? Local politics. Again, a lot of people, I think, that listen to this show or listen to my shows probably are already on the same page with this, mentioned my friend that i made here in a short period of time you know she's working on a housing crisis in california but specifically here remarkable in a short period of time has gotten approved the development of tiny house tiny house build that's going to happen soon before the winter for the unhoused community up here that is going to be experiencing winter conditions soon and there was a lot of back and forth but you know this new friend has got people from both sides and involved and commissioned a
Starting point is 00:21:38 whole survey of different sites and landed on this one that seems to be the most you know and they're planning to do it in a way that's not um restrictive that isn't like you can't bring your belongings and you can't you know and they're and they're hoping to no restrictions about timing like when you can enter and like we'll see what happens but i was really inspired by that but the ability to actually get something done and go beyond like what politics, you know, the culture war, just actually have conversations with people. And I think that's really inspiring and is truly the way forward for all of us right now. We're looking at climate change effects.
Starting point is 00:22:20 I mean, on a local level, we can do what we can to shore up our infrastructure, to look out for our communities, to build resilience, all of it. So that is what I'm here to say is underrated and blown away by it, truly. Right. Yeah. Not that there aren't like some, you know, who knows what happens next. We will learn from this, you know, we'll see what happens. I'm sure that there will be things that happen that could be done better. Sure. But I think getting, just connecting to your community is always, it's massively empowering, like, you know, at any level, like, yeah, at the highest levels of like being able to contribute to,
Starting point is 00:22:59 you know, things to help like the people in your town, like through government or through the local government, or just even like knowing who you live around is like massively energizing too. Like I walk pretty consistently more and more and more and more in my neighborhood to the point where like, I'm starting to really be like, that's, that's that, that's them, that's them, that's them. And that, that sense of community that just comes from like exchanging pleasantries with people consistently too is so life affirming. Yeah. yeah yeah and you just kind of be like yeah okay good there's i live with other human beings and people who are you know got their head in the game and want to do good yeah and i think at the like you know we talk we talk about how we're headed for
Starting point is 00:23:41 a climate disaster that's kind of already here in a lot of ways, but like things are going to get more dire in the near future. And like, I don't know what you like doing things on a local level, like finding things that work on a local level that then can get like elevated up or, you know, used like that. Those that's like a possibility of like how we come up with solutions and actually figure
Starting point is 00:24:09 this thing out. Yeah, it's definitely has more promise than just arguing with people based on like what, you know, Tucker Carlson said. Yeah, yeah. You know, Rachel Maddow or whatever side you're on, you know. Yeah. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host
Starting point is 00:24:46 of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jimei Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't
Starting point is 00:26:10 get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports,
Starting point is 00:26:41 where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture.
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Starting point is 00:28:50 mentioned it in passing before but you know as we've discussed recently on the show the u.s is out loud kind of fascist tendencies of late are part of a global trend like you know fascism is capitalism's response to the failure of capitalism and like when the market economy makes it clear that a leftward movement is necessary because like just leaving it to the market is not working capitalist societies will reliably respond with fascism like whenever whenever things are are going badly like that's one of the options they throw out is to just have a complete break with reality and like i i bring that idea up that metaphor of like the body politic up mostly because america is so averse to socialism that it feels like
Starting point is 00:30:06 america is allergic to socialism that it's just like we can't do this the branding around hating socialism is is really quite remarkable when it's such an obvious answer everything that people complain about everything they they that's wrong and also we don't have pure capitalism there there are experiments all like we already have bits of it you know like like this integrated elements of socialism it's like wait why is it something so fearful you have to be afraid of yeah it's just wild i mean it's it's like created a like a instant reflex in people to hear the word socialism or communism. And they immediately think I'm eating dirt in a hut and I have to give the the government will come for my television and Wi-Fi and I will give that up so I can pick up a fucking sickle and you know go do yard work or whatever and so there's like always just like it's just dismissed like offhand immediately and then it's just there's like that
Starting point is 00:31:11 funny there's like that simpsons episode where like lisa's talking about like everyone's getting all riled up and she's like what if there was like a like a system where like health care could be provided like yeah that sounds good and like other people someone's like wait is that socialism and someone and she's like well it has element they're like get the fuck out of here even though they were on board with every single thing up until they hear the fucking word right which is really wild like how that just like the the dots just don't connect or are purposefully made to not connect to most people's minds. And that town that I was talking about that like is my version of where you moved, Katie. That's like there was a house that had a yard sign that said socialism has no
Starting point is 00:31:52 home here. And I was so tempted to just stop and ask them like, what, what do you think socialism or just say what's social or just go? What's socialism? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, damn. What's socialism? Oh, what's that? Yeah. Oh, damn. What's socialism?
Starting point is 00:32:05 Oh, what's that? Right. Oh, man. You don't want to know. They'll make you share with the needy. Well, not directly. It's just that they would probably tax people at a higher rate, which I'm not really part of that scheme. So it would probably create better outcomes for people.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I don't know. I mean, yeah. The idea like, oh, I'm going to be paying a lot for nothing. You already are, buddy. Right. And also you are paying for your trash and your waste to be removed from your home and for water to come to your home. And yeah, all sorts of things that are basically on a socialist model in a lot of places. Exactly. And yeah, but, but also we leave out of the conversation, the fact that billionaires and corporations get to skirt and avoid taxes and,
Starting point is 00:32:58 you know, exploit people in order to make, there's so much money, there's so much wealth that is being hoarded. And so like, there's a much money there's so much wealth right that is being hoarded and so like there's a i understand that the logistics are great because nobody's ever actually done it here right like there's a way to do this where you're not feeling this difference you're all you're actually feeling is like oh now i have health insurance right yeah you know and like this whole argument of well i want to go to my doctor well yeah you you get to go to any doctor yeah so brazil is a
Starting point is 00:33:33 great illustration of this sort of duality they have a actual like socialist alternative that is running for president and lula former, and has outsized support after the current authoritarian term of Bolsonaro. And then Bolsonaro, like they basically have the two options, fascism and socialism on the ticket. And socialism is, has the vast majority of the support according to opinion polls, which we've learned not to trust in this country. But at least it seems like Bolsonaro and the people who have access to the levers of power are concerned about the results of the opinion polls, because he has been basically claiming that the upcoming election onober 2nd is going to be fraudulent it's like even though there's never been a problem with fraud in the history of brazilian elections and
Starting point is 00:34:35 in fact brazil is one of the only like massive countries that reports the results of their voting the same day like they they have it like that locked down. He's like, nah, it's, it's too susceptible. It's too susceptible to being rigged. And he's like picked out this very,
Starting point is 00:34:54 you know, a hypothetical tech scenario that people are like, well, I mean, that could happen, but like, it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:04 there's like a 0.000001% chance. And like, well, I mean, that could happen, but like, it's, you know, there's like a 0.000001% chance. And like, now, like we, we can guard against that. And we would know if it happened. And he's like, nah, that's, we can't hold this election because, because the voting machines, it's really like, he's just reading from the Trump playbook in a way.'s how he got an office yeah it's very very straightforward i mean not that that's why but that that gave people like oh yeah that kind of works okay this is this is a wave right but totally it's kind of one of those things too because like you know they've they've before the like workers party was in power in brazil and for a while like talk saying shit that was even like remotely close
Starting point is 00:35:45 to like privatizing a public service people would have lost their fucking shit over that idea but it's just funny how like an economic crisis and a few other things compound and like immediately kind of people like oh wait actually no let's try this other thing now and it's always interesting how these sort of like a crisis a corruption scandal can all kind of come together and people suddenly associate one with the other. And boom, now you have the table set for some other goon to come in and offer something, quote unquote, different. in showing people all the cracks and how desperately important all of these, everything that comes along with a socialist candidate is to their present and to their future. And it does, I know you can't really pay too much attention to opinion polls, but it does feel good to see that when there is a socialist candidate on the fucking ticket, that the support is there. And I think that's really encouraging
Starting point is 00:36:53 in general, but it's as encouraging as it is scary to see the two sizes coming up against each other like this, because, because i mean we absolutely have offered a playbook and the fact that it got as far as it did here in america when we're supposed to have all these checks and balances protecting against it makes me terrified for other places that don't you know that are much more easily manipulated and easily to i mean that was our first coup you know and like other places have have more history with it so it's it's definitely scary yeah not just in brazil but everywhere yeah i mean it like just the idea like as as we've laid it out, like they have a right wing kind of militaristic dictatorial person in power, then there is a socialist alternative that is like charging towards power that in my mind,
Starting point is 00:37:55 you know, having paid attention to history for the past like 50 years, that reads to me as like, oh, this is gonna this is gonna go bad but the way the new york times is writing about it they're like brazil's last coup in 1964 led to a brutal 21 year military dictatorship the middle class supported it business people supported it the press supported it and the u.s supported it and but well get rid of every other group they mentioned before. Well, none of these players support a coup now. And I'm like, is that true? Right. Because like it has the CIA and the US and like all the, you know, international multinational corporations. out that like sort of dominoes ideal of like well if if brazil falls then we're next and we need to
Starting point is 00:38:49 like make sure that doesn't happen i don't know there's just like something about this that like doesn't feel like we're taking the possibility of a coup of an assassination of the socialists leadership seriously enough well i mean there's definitely there's been terrible right-wing violence though against a lot of the leftists there that's i mean that's that's that's happening now right they're definitely in that phase where there's there is already terrible like partisan violence right yeah yeah, that doesn't seem like a very accurate, I I'm agreeing with what you're saying, especially you look around the world. I mean, Russia. Okay. There's just, people are doing it, are doing the thing. These leaders are doing the things that you think,
Starting point is 00:39:39 yeah, but it would be bad if they actually did it, but they're doing it. They don't care. They're going to push it and get away with it, you know, or what's going to happen in China with Taiwan. You know, it's. I mean, yeah, like you're just like with Trump, right? There's definitely a type of politician now that's like just like a raptor in Jurassic Park, just testing the fences for like weaknesses. And they're just waiting for the fence to be off. And they're going to just walk right through like that's there's that's you can tell i mean just like it right now like even in
Starting point is 00:40:10 the u.s with all the these secretaries of state or the people who are going to oversee like elections and things like that there are we're already seeing people who come in who are embracing like this like dumb election fraud bullshit right so they're starting like from that one touch of the fence they're like, Oh, okay. So the next one, we got to make sure there's stooges in these positions too.
Starting point is 00:40:29 So the next time we touch the fence, it is not on. And yeah, it bit by bit there, it is eroding. And like some people, I mean, many people are sort of sounding the alarm,
Starting point is 00:40:41 but I think most people are kind of unaware of like how cynical their moves are especially for something like you know when when it comes to maintaining power in this sense we're just like yeah fuck it we can there's a way to do it if you just get these people to agree then fucking rules don't matter well also you can just say whatever the fuck you want and make it true you know donald trump Trump has his beautiful home rated, his beautiful, beautiful home is rated. And he says, you know, I didn't do anything wrong, but also Obama still 30,000 documents and I declassified my documents. Which one is it, buddy?
Starting point is 00:41:20 It doesn't matter. He just threw verbal vomit out there. And now pick your pick your poison of an excuse that you can have if you're talking about this. And it doesn't matter whether or not that's true. And there is so much going on all at once that
Starting point is 00:41:35 it's all people can do to pay their bills, to make sure that their kids get to school and they're not shocked. it's chaos and so you don't have room for most people's daily lives they don't have room to to separate the truth from the fiction yeah to that point of like you can say whatever you want a fifth of the country has now lost faith in the election systems even even though there is no problem with the election systems. A fifth of Brazilian voters,
Starting point is 00:42:07 like just based on what would seem to be a very straightforward, he starts hearing that he's going to lose the next election and suddenly is worried about fraud. Like that seems like a fairly straightforward thing, but suddenly a fifth of the country has lost faith in the election system. Another thing that they brought up as being... But I mean, that fifth could just be his hardcore supporters. Yeah, it could be, for sure.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Because they're like, yeah, that's right, that's bullshit. So then when you're polling, you're like, I'm in the column of agreeing with Bolsonaro. The other thing that they point to in that realm is that they're like, and he really loosened like gun restrictions. So now, like, there are so many Brazilians who are armed. Six hundred thousand over six hundred thousand. Could you imagine that many people with guns in the US?
Starting point is 00:42:57 It is seventy two million. Not to say it's not a danger in Brazil. I'm just saying, like, i feel like sometimes we don't realize how dangerous yeah yeah so wild how many guns like even if you were to ban them tomorrow there are so many guns people i i've someone like texting me like where their dad found a gun they forgot about like in the garage they're like oh look what i found forgot about this one you're like we live in a fucking place where people are like whoopsie i have this old you know gun here in the fucking garage i forgot about that yeah when one of my relatives passed they found a handgun and like the process of like
Starting point is 00:43:37 figuring out what to do with it and like how to get rid of it and like it's crazy because it's like such a a deadly weapon that is horrifying and like shouldn't exist. And like, you have to, you know, reach out to the police and, uh, you know, do all these things, but they are sold like, you know, like they're squirt guns in the United States. They're just, uh, so, so easy to get, which is what our next story is going to be about after we take a quick break. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films
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Starting point is 00:48:41 like consulted the experts and they're like, no, that's not like the stock explanation from the right is not a good thing to look out for or to criminalize or to stigmatize. Unfortunately, the other symptoms they provide for what you should be looking out for are like equally impossible to look out for they're like instead it's a personal crisis a change in behavior or appearance like get a bad haircut or something like is one of the things that they talk about it's like oh yeah fred got divorced and got a mohawk right and you're like oh no what right it's a regular midlife crisis yeah it talks about like various cases to illustrate this and like i talk about like
Starting point is 00:49:33 one kid who wrote a essay about like a school shooting before he did a school shooting like i wrote a short story about a school shooting in seventh grade but like i don't know like yeah my teacher probably could have taken that and been like turned it over to the police instead she was like you're a good writer you should like keep writing that was that was cool but like it's just wait i'm sorry what what was this short story yeah you're very ahead of your time here is that a bit or no no i like wrote we just had a open like fiction writing like short story writing assignment miss mcdonald who was big uh doobie brothers fan that was the main thing that she was she liked to talk about from her personal life uh but she was like
Starting point is 00:50:19 she really liked my writing and one of the stories i wrote was just about like a kid who brought a gun to school and like accidentally shot someone who was like picking on him but it wasn't clear if it was an accident and okay she wow and you and this is pre-convenient too as you're jack i think that we're similar ages i don't know how old you are and i'm not gonna ask right now but i definitely grew up with that campaign of gun safety in the house. Messaging. Like there's a lot of like on TV.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Yeah. Or like there was that big at 90210 episode. Yeah, the 90210. It wasn't exactly influenced by that 90210 episode, but it was. But that's a different lens than a school shooting. Right. It's like a kid brought a gun. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Right. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to ask if you're, my next question is going to be like, and are you okay? Right. No. right yeah yeah i was gonna ask if you're my next question is gonna be like and are you okay right um no but the uh i think after i moved away she like assigned like write a different ending to this story to the class next year my friend told me which is your work of my work oh my god so i sued her yeah she's no longer a teacher yeah but it i don't know like this is scary to me it's so wild to like and they don't they don't mention gun laws i mean i think they're like well it's the elephant in the room
Starting point is 00:51:31 but like there's nothing we can do about it but it's so many words the front page of the new york times and they don't mention gun control at all doesn't frame it as like an aberration, like, you know, a problem that only affects America because of the gun lobbies and how many guns we have. And instead, as we love to do in the United States, they put it at the level of individual action. Like, you know, in the same way as like inequality or like we don't have a class system because they tell us that like it's down to us to be like successful upwardly mobile people even though america has less upward mobility than most countries we don't have a mobile upward mobility problem we have a laziness problem right no one wants to work these days exactly just always distill it no we don't have that it's
Starting point is 00:52:23 because of you freaking losers right and it it truly ends with like people being like and all you had to do was be nicer like if one person had been nicer to them then like this could have all been averted and it's just it's fucking sick it's It scares me a lot. Just the idea that, you know, someone might be going through something or, you know, maybe their parents are getting divorced and they're depressed. And all of a sudden now they're being also treated like as threats. Right. And what that stigmatization could do. It's really hard to be a child under the best of circumstances in a school environment and add that to the mix.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Makes me uncomfortable. And it's depressing because what these people with this article is basically saying, since we can't control this through legislation, let's add something else to the teacher's responsibility. Let's add something else to the teacher's responsibility. Let's add something else to that. And it's just getting it all wrong. Everyone should have to watch the movie Pay It Forward. That's the answer. That's the answer. That they are proposing
Starting point is 00:53:56 essentially. I hate when things are written like this. This happens the same thing with policing. Any major issue we have when they just avoid the root cause and it's like this fucking does nothing we're like how do we figure out who's gonna be a potential threat you know and and rather than saying oh at a at a minimum maybe if we just had a more humane society where like people like you you're gonna take away a lot of other factors that create
Starting point is 00:54:25 chaos in people's lives by supporting them for like first and foremost and then if guns are the problem then yeah make it fucking harder to get them right rather than like scratching your head all the time being like okay but what kind of video game do they play for how long with a certain haircut because we've used a machine learning tool to algorithmically identify people it's like what the fuck and then meanwhile nothing works and so people will just say see like it doesn't change it we'll just have to live with this right yeah and i think that the truth is that people from all sides i mean sure there's people that are gonna hate any conversation about gun legislations, but I don't think that that's that hard to get a consensus on.
Starting point is 00:55:33 There's a difference between saying that you can't have guns, which may or may not be like some of our positions. I understand this is the United States of America and that I don't understand. I don't know how I could get to a point where people would agree to not have guns at all. But I think that there's a middle. There's a lot of middle ground in between those two points. But no one wants it. But no politician wants to touch it. Either side, really.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Well, I mean, there's some pretty good ideas, though. You know, let's not let's not get all full doom and gloom about it all. Right. Because there's some some good proposals out there from really forward thinking people about how to keep our schools safe. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm glad you brought that up, Miles. Yeah, thank you. Share them. So, yeah, I thought you were referring to, you know, all the common-sense solutions where that after Evalde, there was majority support for in the United States, and they didn't even like sniff a vote in Congress. No, but I think what you're referring to is actually the solutions we're seeing rolled out in the wake of Uvalde, Ohio and Louisiana, or sorry, in the wake of Uvalde,
Starting point is 00:56:37 where Ohio and Louisiana proposed laws to make it easier for teachers and school staff to carry firearms the bill failed in louisiana louisiana but uh i like calling it louisiana louisiana i kind of like that too but a similar bill passed in ohio and you know this so to put this in perspective because it might seem like well if a really like skilled marks skilled marksman wants to keep a gun in a safe or something. Previously in Ohio, officials who wanted to carry weapons at school had to complete 700 hours of training, which came from a Supreme Court decision following parents challenging a loosening of the existing rules. 700 hours. parents challenging a loosening of the existing rules. 700 hours.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Training for teachers wanting to bring guns to class now that this decision has been made is just 24 hours. To put that in perspective, Ohio cops have to train for over 700 hours. And to put that in perspective, Ohio barbers have to train for 1,800 hours. Oh, my God. Yeah. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:57:49 I mean, I can think I'm sure everyone has thought of a teacher they had who had anger problems. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. I have one teacher I remember like it was fucking scary. Like because you didn't know where the what what side of the fucking bed they woke up on would throw shit across the classroom at walls and i'm like you're how what do we even do what have you been thinking like that this is even a potential solution not to say like all teachers are potentially dangerous but like again that there's so many varying personalities in a classroom and on the campus.
Starting point is 00:58:27 But also, imagine being a teacher. Not even just a normal teacher. My dream is to educate kindergarten. And I have had 24 hours of training. And now I'm in a situation where I am in my own nerves are wild and and erratic and i have to make a life or death decision you know maybe somebody hasn't started shooting but you're scared maybe the teacher makes an accident maybe the teacher shoots the wrong child right yeah can you even imagine putting a teacher who's a person who's decided that they want to educate for their their their calling is to educate young minds and put them in a position where they want to educate for their their their calling is to educate young minds
Starting point is 00:59:05 and put them in a position where they have to decide if one is you're going to kill one yeah i think this is absurd absolutely absurd maybe maybe every so often there's a teacher that's a ex-military or whatever and happens to be really good good for them not good for them i'm not actually honoring this condition but like that is this suggestion but like you cannot expect teachers to we can't even apparently expect cops to keep their cool in a high pressure situation they'll just run out the other way apparently and avoid coming in for the active shooter if we're looking at you valde so what what what is this conversation it's just nonsense yeah it's it would be the only thing like i when i was a kid i was obsessed with guns like as i think a lot of little boys just little kids are you know and you know to this day when i'm standing near a cop like if i'm in a fucking elevator with a cop or
Starting point is 01:00:04 just like walking by one on the streets, like all I can think about is like gun, gun, gun, gun, because like a gun is a physical point in the time space continuum that is within your reach that could end,
Starting point is 01:00:17 like that could just end any life. Like it's, it's fucking crazy that they exist. It's crazy. Like it's, it's fucking crazy that they exist. It's crazy. Like the idea of that being in the classroom with kids, like, you know, like my kids are already obsessed with guns the way I was. And we don't like let them watch anything with guns. And like, I've been like way more care, but it's just, I think like we're right to be obsessed with them at that point as your imagination is evolving because it's like wild that they exist and they are a huge fucking deal like it's they they just like zone in on like the thing that's like wait holy shit these those exist and people just like carry them around and like i can fucking kill and destroy like it's like bulldozers it's why like trains it's why like
Starting point is 01:01:05 planes like yeah exactly gun is on that level too you're like this thing has the potential to do untold shit yeah like truly yeah yeah and like most ohio school districts say they still won't allow it you know again like when you ask people what they think, outside of the systemic and all this shit, nearly three quarters of US teachers don't want to carry guns in school, which is a lot. One of many examples of how the country will turn to any solution other than gun control when it comes to school safety. This one scares me because of how much I was like, do that. I'm going to bring this up to my kid's school.
Starting point is 01:01:46 So these are safety pods, essentially metal panic rooms for between $15,000 and $30,000. And kids basically lock themselves in them during a school shooting. They've been around for a few years. Were originally designed for tornado tornadoes but companies pivoted to marketing them as school shooting protection because those happen just as often if not more often and i would like that literally like hit my mind like okay yeah well we're not going to get the gun stuff so like but get those in kids schools yeah give them give them panic rooms so they're safe like if one of these things happen which is like fucking crazy it's it i mean it's like it's not it's not a healthy it's not a sign of a healthy uh civilization
Starting point is 01:02:33 i feel sure is not no when when it's like this thing is killing us what's the solution well more of those things right but also some other things yeah just more of more of the thing that's causing the problem meanwhile socialism is just to be feared as evil anyway just bring that back around i'll tell you what doesn't have a home here in this gun in this home where we keep guns yeah i want to not be able to afford my health insurance so that when I get shot, I die. Right. But like my children, you know, go to a school every day. I drop them off and worry about a school shooting like in the back of my mind or the front of my mind, like depending on how recently one of those happened and anything that would make them safer.
Starting point is 01:03:20 I want to do. And like I my issue with the gun thing is I don't think it makes them safer. That is my issue with the gun thing on a very micro level because I just want my kids to be safe. And I think that's the way a lot of parents are.
Starting point is 01:03:39 And I'm hoping that that will cause some people to come around on all this gun control shit. Yeah. It's another example that I don't think would work and therefore am against. Taser company Axon last month announced plans to develop drones armed with tasers
Starting point is 01:04:00 that could fly around schools and help prevent the next Uvalde sandy hook or columbine yeah yeah wait drones yeah drones with tasers so yeah i was gonna fly that drone around in the school is it the teacher that oh no they're automated uh based on this uh algorithmic programming that's so racist you wouldn't believe it exactly they just are constantly being released the solution is not just man maybe we need to do something about the guns it's like what what fucking farmer looks at their field it's like man we got you know there's these pests in my in my crops i gotta get rid of and they're like what if you just what if you just fucking got
Starting point is 01:04:41 some other pests that could fight them yeah and. And then they would go away and they would, they would, they would leave your crops alone rather than like, what about pest control? Right. What about just saying, this is the problem I'm addressing that rather than going like nine steps into my imagination with the dumbest ideas,
Starting point is 01:04:57 which is like, you know, I'm, I'm actually developing a breed of rabbit that will eat all of these things. Right. And that's how we will, we will solve the problem rather than this other solution that's right there in front of you that other people have used many times.
Starting point is 01:05:10 I don't know. We could put, put all kids in shock collars. Right. Upon entering. And as soon as, as soon as they start acting bad, just give them a little zap.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Exactly. Yeah. I think hyper-intelligent cybernetically designed cyborgs that uh are armed and patrolling the hall and connected to some sort of you know racist algorithm racist algorithm that could become self-aware i think that is like the in our reality the terminators are invented in order to patrol school hallways because we didn't do anything about gun control right you can make them look cute like what was that guy boopy i don't know who you were talking about blippy who pooped on his friend's butt yeah yeah or i mean look how well
Starting point is 01:05:55 the terminator got along with uh eddie furlong and yeah yeah terminator too and he went on to be governor too so Yeah. Yeah. So you know what? Maybe gun control is a bad idea. I don't want to get in the way of a cyborg's dreams. Well, right. I don't want to like ruin the future. No, no, no. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:17 How's he going to know why we cry? Right. Katie, truly a pleasure having you as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Oh, fun. You can find me on Twitter. Just my name, Katie Stoll. And you can check out our work, the stuff that I do with Cody Johnston.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Our YouTube channel is Some More News. Our podcast is Even More News. We have episodes just about every week. And I'm getting ahead of myself a little bit, but fuck it. We are working on a new show for the YouTube channel that will be hosted by me, and that will be coming out in the fall, hopefully, providing everything goes as planned,
Starting point is 01:06:56 which frequently does not happen, but in the near future, that will be happening. Amazing. Yeah. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying yes right before we started recording i saw a masterpiece well robert shared a masterpiece robert evans laughing so hard i might die this is a glorious attempt to make a country music ballad about the trump fbi raid it's done sort of in the style of poncho and lefty and just incredible.
Starting point is 01:07:28 And you know what, you guys? It is. You should go, I guess, to Robert's feed and find this. We'll link off to it in the footnotes. Oh, boy. It's ridiculous. And it made me giggle. It made me giggle.
Starting point is 01:07:40 It made my Monday. Is the person making it like a true trump supporter or is it a piece of satire oh no but although there is an anime picture on it so maybe there's satire but i really think it's it's sincere yeah the satire is they're saying let's go brandon but that's not what they mean miles where can people find you what is the tweet you've been enjoying uh find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray uh also check us out on miles jack got mad boosties also check me out on 420 day fiance shout out to the zeit gang that pulled up to the 818s and heartbreak uh show on saturday that was really fantastic to have a few of you listeners come up and be like hey what's up i'm
Starting point is 01:08:21 zeit gang and i was like holy shit i forget uh that you know we're all out here in physical space sometimes so it's very pleasant to meet y'all and thank you so much for listening to the show if you ever see me holler at me uh if you come in peace uh some tweets that are like this first one is from uh at johnny heat wave tweeted i noticed the similarities about a year ago but remained silent today the dam finally burst and this guy basically did a side by side of jiminy glick and tucker carlson jiminy glick the martin short character oh yeah the the like sort of film critic guy uh but i'm gonna just play you a quick snippet just so you can kind of see where they're at yeah like tucker carlson's new high
Starting point is 01:09:05 pitched unhinged thing does have a lot in common is very glick-esque well nothing we can do it's bad we can't do anything when you do something like that but it's not entirely a stupid ad wait stop wait stop for one second here what's that about what's that about oh my god really good what's that about damn uh for all you old jiminy glick fans and another one at catholic convert tweeted radio head voice because uh speaking of greek if anyone saw the reconstruction of what greek philosopher aristotle looked on based on looked like based on uh his bust i really like to tweet from emma bachelieri tweeted aristotle offensive line university of Iowa because that's what he looks straight up like offensive lineman
Starting point is 01:10:07 dad 2.0 needs more coffee tweeted we were branding quiet quitting to acting your wage which I think that's a better use of that term or a better term for that cam tweeted I don't have time to read a baby on board bumper sticker I am on my phone
Starting point is 01:10:24 I enjoyed that you can Time to read a Baby on Board bumper sticker. I am on my phone. I enjoyed that. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we
Starting point is 01:10:45 think you might enjoy. Miles, do you have a song that you think people might enjoy on this Tuesday? Yeah, just more of that group Malfino. M-A-L-P-H-I-N-O. Again, they're like this sort of made-up band where it's members from all
Starting point is 01:11:02 over the world, but they play Latin music, but from a made-up island called Malfino because they're not trying to be like, yeah, we're doing this authentic shit. It's kind of like a very creative idea, which I really enjoy. So they always say their songs are representative of this place that never existed.
Starting point is 01:11:19 So this is another track called La Lango, L-A-L-A-N-G-O. Check out the work. It's really great background music just to work to or just to kind of give your home a nice feel, like you're in an old kind of, I don't know, like a 60s bar, like a tropical bar or some shit. Oh, I'm definitely going to do that today. Check it out.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Yeah, on your kayak, wherever you got to. It will lighten up the mood. I like to listen to it and imagine I'm in a 90s bar selling dinosaur embryos. Ooh. In a Barbasol can? Yeah, in a Barbasol can. That's fun. But that is the oldest tropical bar I can picture.
Starting point is 01:11:56 I guess cocktail was before that. Anyways, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning, but we're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we'll talk to you all then. Bye. Bye. I'm Keri Champion, and this is
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