The Daily Zeitgeist - Schrodinger's Couch Guy, Amazon's Kryptonite? 10.13.21

Episode Date: October 13, 2021

In episode 1007, Jack and Miles are joined by host of Alison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend Alison Rosen to discuss how Amazon "really cares" about their workers, Seattle Cops are in such a "terrible position", IS COUCH GUY CHEATING? OR ARE WE PATHETIC AND BORED?  and more!FOOTNOTES: Amazon: Oh Y’all care about workers kinda? NVM we out… Seattle Cops are in such a terrible position OMG OH NO HALP THEM PLEEEZ! IS COUCH GUY CHEATING? OR ARE WE PATHETIC AND BORED?  LISTEN: Mr Jukes - Vibrate Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 206, episode two of the production of iHeart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it's Wednesday, October 13th, 2021. Of course, it is Take Your Parents to Lunch Day, National Take Your Parents to Lunch Day, International No Bra Day. So, you know, I'm observing one of those two.

My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. And I think it's gonna be a long, long time till I look my three-year-old in the eye. Don't know the difference between fruit and veg. Oh, no, no, no. I'm a foolish man. Foolish man. Been lied to my whole life, man.

Fuck these seeds. That is courtesy of Pod Moran. Talking about my inability to differentiate between fruit and vegetable or, as I would call it, my realization that vegetables are all a conspiracy and it's all fruits.

And I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! All the fall things. Pumpkin, spice drinks, apples. Let's pick. I have the shits. Then comes the snow.

This shit is so cold. Skiing, skating, falling, ass breaking. My balls are. Skating. Falling. Ass breaking. My balls are froze. This is so old. I am pissed off. Stuck in my home. And that's from Christy Yamaguchi, Maine, who decided to take us down a little trip.

Link 182. All the small things. But the art. Yeah. All the fall things. Oh, I get it. I see what he did there. You see where we're at, baby! That was awesome, though. I saw that on

Twitter and liked it by clicking the heart underneath it. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny and talented podcaster, author, and TV personality. She's the author of the book Tropical Attire Encouraged and Other Phrases That Scare Me and hosts the podcast Allison Rosen is Your Best Friend and Childish,

which is a podcast for parents and people with parents. So a very limited demo that they're going after there. Please welcome the hilarious, the brilliant, Alison Rosen. Hello. Hello. I am honoring No Bra Day, but I have been honoring that for the whole time we've been in our homes. Good for you. Fantastic. I'm observing it. Yeah, it's my personal holiday. Actually, it is my personal holiday, but also I think most people with boobs out there are also celebrating it. Yes. It started because it's also National Metastatic Breast Cancer Awareness Day. I think the two of them are one sort of after the other is to bring more awareness

around, you know, health. Okay. Well, see, I was going for a funny light thing, and then you really harshed my I know, and I was trying to... With your facts. Sometimes they have... Facts about cancer. Okay. It's like, come in with the cancer fact. Because sometimes you'll see, like, on this little national day calendar thing, you'll look at it, and sometimes it's like, a group of friends decided, what better way to honor

it? But this, very specifically, I think is obvious, because October is also Breast Cancer Awareness Month, so it's probably right. Oh, that's right. See, I didn't even know. And they didn't even put that in your fall thing song. I know. It's the one time.

How did he miss it? Wait, the NFL guys are wearing pink. I know. What's happening? It's October. That's what's happening. Yeah. It's wild.

Now I get it. It proves that they are iconoclasts. They don't give a shit. Breast cancer is pink. Ovarian cancer is blue. Do you know the other colors? No. I don't think I do either, but I do think that different colors are assigned to the different types of cancer. Let's see. Prostate cancer is light blue. They kind of have one for everything. All cancers is lavender. So if you wear a lavender one, you kind of got them all covered, apparently, according to this chart. You're an all-cancer cancer person.

Testicular cancer is purple orchid, which is interesting. Thyroid is blue, pink, and teal, which is a lot of different colors. But that's cool to have a combo, like a colorway for your type of cancer. Oh, man. I feel that the term colorway is kind of ridiculous. And I tweeted something about that. Like, when did we start referring to things as a colorway? And then a lot of people responded saying that this is used in sneakers a lot and i just went and deleted my tweaks i'm like okay this is potentially culturally insensitive so i took it away the worst group that you can possibly aka probably the most vocal in your mentions you know yeah do you feel the term colorway is necessary can Can't you

just say color? I mean, I get that it's a few colors. I think because I'm a sneaker obsessed person that I grew up with that saying as a kid, I'm like, oh, that's a dope colorway for that shoe. Because typically it was never just like one color. It's like, oh, it's the Carolina blue with the white and the gray or whatever that comes together so i've just i think as a habit just brought that phrase with me but i understand because a lot of people like i've said it before we were like colorway right like the combo of never mind i'm just i think i was one of those people because i i hadn't really heard it until i started really thinking about sneakers. Like, you know, really thinking about them. I didn't want people to know that I have a blind spot when it comes to sneakers, I guess.

I want them to think that I know my... You can't see them at all? I don't... Why... Why are you floating three inches off the ground? I see the cuff of your pants and I see nothing more. Oh my God. How do you do it how exactly i legitimately have never

used colorway to refer to anything but a sneaker i thought i was using poetic license and you you came for me allison you sorry apparently they came they came for me and i'm just paying it forward no i have now i see it in ad copy for like podcast ads for all sorts of products now. Oh, got it. Colorway is coming for all of us. We're all going to be Colorway's bitch. Yeah. And I didn't even ask for that.

You know, we can, I was fine just limited to sneakers. Don't need to see it in decks. And I do get most of my poetic inspiration from ad copy. So that makes sense. Don't we all? From from ad copy. So that makes sense. Don't we all? From podcast ad copy. Whitman did too. Yeah, Whitman.

All right, Allison, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a few of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Amazon. They have a very specific way of doing business, which involves if there's any legislation looking out for workers or laws protecting workers, they're out. So we're going to talk about why they pulled out of El Cajon in California. We're going to talk about the Seattle cops. Please feel for the Seattle cops.

They are mad about the Vax mandate. We're going to talk about Greg abbott becoming just a parody of himself and of course we will get to the big news that is on everybody's mind couch guy from tiktok is he cheating i mean i have my theories you know we are a couch guy you have to be blind to not see it okay come on the on. The whole internet has agreed. These people need to wake up. Couch guys are cheaters. All of that.

Plenty more. First, Allison, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? I recently searched kidney donor bad art friend. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? The New York Times art piece that everyone loves? Yes. Have you guys already talked about'm talking about? The New York Times piece that everyone loves? Yes. Have you guys already talked about that on your show? No, no, actually. I've been getting yelled

at from Her Majesty and my partner because she was like, I need to talk to you about it. You're going to love it. I'm like, I know. It's a long read and I have to do some other stuff, but I will. Yeah. So I forget what day specifically it came out in the New York stuff, but I will. Yeah. So I forget what day specifically it came out in the New York Times, but I just started seeing all these people tweeting about kidneys and bad art

friend and who is the bad art friend, which I believe was the title of it. And I'm like, how long can I persist in not knowing what this is about? Because I sort of, when the whole internet is talking to, or obviously not the whole internet, but all the, you know, in the stuff I follow, when it seems that everyone's talking about something, I sort of enjoy that moment where it's like, I know this is going to be dumb and I don't yet know what it is. Like I am, I have blissful ignorance, but then, you know, I'm like, okay, fine. I can't take it. So I looked it up and I ended up reading the story. It is very long, but well, some people had said to me, like, it's not worth it. They're both repugnant. You don't need to read it.

But I was happy that I read it. It is, I imagine this is what Her Majesty has been saying to you, but it is interesting. There's lots of ways. It brings, it's one of those stories that stays with you. So I actually do recommend reading it and then having a conversation about it, which I haven't, I need to call up your lady because I haven't really had a chance to talk about it with anyone. Oh, so, yeah, without I'll just be like, hey, the homie Allison wants to talk to you. So, yeah, yeah, right now, right now, right now, right now. I'm on a plane.

Do you know, does she have an opinion about which one is the bad friend? No, because she wanted to save that discourse. When I read it, she didn't want to sully my perception of what she's like. We just have to talk about this. I'm like, yes. Fuck. Okay. It's well written and well crafted in that there's sort of a bit of a new info comes out near the very end, which potentially colors how you'll see it.

I see. So that might be what she's hiding. There was a tweet last week that captured the feeling, though, by at Sassy Black Diva. She said, I hate when you have to read an article to understand Twitter discourse. Like, why are y'all assigning a bitch a homework? I just want to party. Yes! Because that's it.

And that's how I felt, too. I'm like, fuck. All right. Like, I will read the assignment so I can talk about it. Miles, we have our assignment for tomorrow's episode. We'll read that art friend. Can you give us the broad strokes just to entice? This is an also interesting exercise to try and have someone describe it to you the way they think it should be described without selling your perception of it.

Yeah. Okay. So it is about two female writers. They had both like been in a lot of writing programs, and that is how they met each other. One of them is Asian American. One of them is white and grew up more economically disadvantaged, I'd say. So the white one, and I know it sounds like race is a part of the story, though.

So anyway, she donates a kidney. She doesn't know who's going to receive it. She donates it. She starts talking about it on social media and she gets upset that the other writer hasn't acknowledged. She's been talking about it on social media and she feels like the other one, like, did you even know that I donated my kidney? And then it turns out that the other one writes a story about a character that donates her kidney. And the one who donated her kidney feels like she had inspired that story. And so then it's sort of this question of if you write a story about, like, who owns that story? And then the one who wrote it if you write a story about like who owns that story.

And then the one who wrote it says the story is really about like white savior complex. And I feel like I did a terrible job explaining. No, that actually. This is why it's hard to describe it because it's the, I think the most version that everyone's like, you just have to read it, but just know it's about two people and you're like are they being petty i don't know you got to read it and then you'll you'll begin to sort of understand more like it's it was weird because her majesty she she was like i don't want there's so many good lines she's like i don't even want to spoil yeah and i was like right i mean it's it's ultimately like the it's it is it's about female. I think it is about female friendship and it's about a communication breakdown.

The one who donated her kidney begins to act in ways that I think are quite petty. Like she starts to everywhere that the one who wrote the story is trying to publish the story. She starts contacting them, accusing her of plagiarism. I mean, it's crazy. It's got like levels. But there's other, but then there's stuff that make, like they both do not come off well.

Right. I'll just put it that way. And this is written by Robert Kolker. Yes. I'm assuming that is not. So is there a relation between the person who's writing the story and the two friends? I don't think so. And so the two friends named Sonia Larson so. And so the two friends named it. Sonia Larson

is the one who wrote about the kidney donation. Dawn Dorland is the one who donated her kidney. Sonia Larson is a bit more accomplished as a writer. And it's become a public feud because she was trying to publish it. And that's why it's a story because it does feel like the sort of drama you would see on Facebook and not in the pages of The New York Times. Right. I don't know exactly how it came to the attention of The Times. I know that John Dorland had been trying to get the story published for a while, but that's not that's what's sort of said as an aside, like, oh, and by the way, she had been trying to get this published. Right.

Oh, her story about feeling that she was wronged by the writing. Okay. And then last question, which one, like I don't know which of those is the bad art friend. That is Eye of the Beholder. Got it. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Because I was just picturing somebody who was bad at art as a friend. No, right. Making you be like, hey. You handed me this doodle, you bad art friend. Right. Exactly. I thought it was when I was first asked by her, I said, oh, did you read it? I was like, is this about like friends you have whose art sucks,

but you support them and like you'll never tell them that the art is bad. And you're like, oh my God, yes. Love to see your growth as a creator. Yeah. Can we go, can we go, can we go?

Let's get out of here. Bad improv friend. Yeah, exactly. The specific line, I believe, it comes because Sonia says that Dawn is being a bad art friend right because she's not a good art friend would never stand in the way of someone else's storytelling so now i have two reading assignments so i have the new york times article about this and then i

have to read the short story correct i don't know that the short story if it's as relevant but i know people okay i know people have not done that as part of the assignment got it yeah okay that's extra credit that'd be extra credit okay that i do not do extra credit so that's great i don't do extra credit because i will just i will just hound the professor during office hours and demand they change my grade exactly did that ever work for you no i never did that shit because i thought that was the like just so fucking whack to be like you didn't do the work and now you're complaining about how the shit was too hard and i'm like no no no just be like me cheat off your classmates keep your head low take that c and then you're good you cheated off your classmates to get a c

oh yeah classmates i mean well i mean this like I'm talking about the lowest, like, Allison, to say there were some lecture classes that I don't know if I was physically there. Apparently, I was, according to the sign-in sheet. But, you know, we all did college different ways. Records indicate. Yeah. Yes. I think especially when I was like, this is a fucking scam. Y'all made me do all this shit in high school.

For what? For what? The worst grade I ever got in college, I got a D on a group project paper that where we were like, basically, it was a class that like the professor never changed the tests. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So you just always had the answers to all the tests. And I had just completely written the test off and then we got a d on the thing it's not good so i used to make money like that

in high school we had our ap european history teacher old dude senile bro he didn't he didn't change shit and i'll be like yo we got a pop quiz bro i got the answers right here for five were you outside the classroom like with, people knew where to find me. This is the trench coat. People knew where to find me by the flagpole. You know what I mean? During the session, I was there

serving fucking papers and tests. There you go, there you go. I was always, you know. Allison, what is something you think is overrated? Oh, my God. Okay, so I have a lot. I wrote down a lot.

I mean, I'm obviously just going to give you one, but it's hard for me to choose here. But, you know, I'm going to say, and this is controversial, but, and this also shows my age, I think, I have begun to feel that texting is overrated. It's so convenient. So, of course, 99.999% of my communication with other people is done via text. However, I just feel, I also find lately that I'm starting to be that person who's like, can I give you a call? Because it's just so much easier, oftentimes faster. It takes more energy, but actually, oh, I can't believe I'm this person. Just talking, so much is lost on text. And also, it actually, like my thumbs get tired. My fingers feel fat. I just, I don't know.

It's sometimes, if you're trying to make plans, I find, and if you're trying to make plans and there's multiple variables, a phone call or occasionally a voice memo, it just gets it done faster and easier and there's less chance for a miscommunication. Yeah. Yeah. Email, texting, I think are all generally they seem like the most convenient thing, especially for me, somebody who has like social anxiety. And so every conversation is built up in my mind ahead of the time, like this is going to be hard and then they're always pretty painless but this person's gonna yell at me if i they're so mad i can tell based on their text right that's it okay i'm i'm free then oh okay i'm free i got you gonna have to wear

body armor for this conversation a voice call is downright aggressive in this day and age but i just think we're missing something by yeah insisting on texting even though i do i think that's true there's a lot of things that can cannot be solved efficiently over text like you're saying like because if you're on because watch like you're saying alice and you're trying to plan something but you know it's probably there's like three conditions may have to be met for this other person. That's a fucking potentially two and a half hour conversation, like a text exchange. And you're like, yeah, blah, blah, blah.

And they're like, yeah, well, if this other thing happens, okay, well then look into that. Cause if we can, then I can, we can try and adjust it like this. And then you do it incrementally versus hopping on the phone. You're like, Hey, I got reservations here, but if you can't make it, we can shift to this time, except we would have to sit here, blah, blah,

blah, blah, blah. Done. Right. Exactly. Done. Exactly.

Yes. Last night I got a, uh, Greg Fitzsimmons with whom I do childish. We had our time set for the podcast today. And then he's like, Oh, I messed up.

Can you do this time? And it, we went back a couple of times on text and then I just called him because I knew it was going to get, it was going to be 400 texts. Yeah. And also texting like gives you permission to, I think you,

at least I tend to give myself permission to be like more, I don't know. It gives you, it grants you an emotional emotional remove whereas if you're talking to somebody you're going to be more yourself and like kind of a little bit warmer i feel like yeah yeah yeah i wonder if that'd be an interesting experiment experiment because like everyone has people they text with like nearly every day or every other day when if you're like what if we just caught up on the phone for 15 minutes right you know like eight years see i don't even want to do that despite what i'm saying

nah nah but it'd be good yeah nah nah look i'm not trying to connect with people i'm just trying to be more efficient that's right thank you for seeing through what i was completely misunderstood i'm saying it's not about intimacy or connection no no so saving my thumbs a little bit of energy that's right no i get what you're saying you're right no i mean i think it would be interesting there's this old uh i forget if it was it was like a magazine article that i must have been like trapped on a plane without any wi-Fi. And because I as I was reading it, I was like, why the fuck is this a magazine article about like how they saved the World War Z movie? Like it was a mess. And they like basically brought in this fixer who's like a

Hollywood producer who they bring in any time like something's fucked up and their main innovation is they refuse to read email or texts and everything has to take place in conversation or you just like come by and see them and it i don't know that gave me permission to uh stop reading emails just ignoring everyone's email uh we haven't been able to get a hold of you. Yeah, but did you hear about the guy who saved World War Z? Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and find out what you think is underrated, Allison. Hey, fam. I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay.

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And we're back, and it's time to find out, Allison, what is something you think is underrated? Brain teasers. I don't hear about brain teasers ever anymore. And I don't know where they're hiding. I don't know if I'm just, people think that I'm not a brain teaser person, but I really get a kick out of them. Growing up, I feel like, you know, you hear about the twins. One always lies. One always tells the truth. Or you hear about the three light bulbs or like broken glass, water, a dead body. What happened? I love stuff like that. I don't ever hear them anymore.

Where are they? Yeah. What the fuck? I didn't even think about that. And now I feel like I'm naked and alone. Maybe I need to be looking at Reader's Digest. Do they have brain teasers in there? I just Googled brain teasers for adults. And the number one result is 58 brain teasers that there? I just googled brain teasers for adults and the number one result is

58 brain teasers that will leave you stumped. Okay. I'm in. Okay. Here we go. You ready? Yeah. Yeah. All right. A man pushes his car to a hotel and there's an ad covering up the rest of this. A man pushes this car to a hotel and tells the owner he's bankrupt. Why? That's okay. Is that a joke? That feels like more of a joke than... It's similar to the one I'll give you. I do feel stumped. I do feel stumped.

They were correct. That's a lazy response from me. I'll give you a corollary one that I heard as a kid that might help you explain this. A guy is running home. It's Halloween. There's a man waiting at home with a mask who he's afraid of, but he keeps running. Do you know that one?

No. Okay, he's running home. There's a man with a mask that he's afraid of, so he keeps running. So I'm guessing it's like a medical mask or something no it's not a halloween mask so it's a it's uh the world series it's baseball he's running to home plate and there's a the guy waiting there's the catcher who has a ball but he has to keep going so this one is he's playing monopoly so a man pushes his car the hotel tells the owner he's bankrupt.

See, that's culturally biased. That's imperfect. Maybe they're not underrated. Fuck these ones, I don't know. All right, let's talk about Amazon. They were close to building a warehouse facility in El Cajon. And then they found out about a law that San Diego County was implementing that basically makes it so that you have to pay your workers a livable wage. Essentially. Yeah.

I give them union wages. Oh, Oh, there goes the fucking cost. And also somebody taking off in a penis shaped rocket what prevailing union wages so yeah also 56 hours of annual sick leave for work just you know the basics humane working conditions with level paying wages that are life-sustaining and not subsubstance wages.

And that's what Amazon's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We're actually going to cancel this. But here's the thing. Their spokesperson and all of what they're talking about, they'll never admit that it's because of this. They said, oh, while we have decided not to pursue the site at El Cajon, we continue to assess opportunities to invest and grow across the region. We appreciate the time and attention committed by the city of San Diego, as well as local community leaders and officials. Amazon is a dynamic business, and we are constantly exploring new locations. We weigh a variety of factors when deciding where to develop future sites to best serve our customers, and it's common for us to explore multiple locations simultaneously and adjust based on our operational needs, which is to pay people fuck all.

Yeah. We enjoyed meeting with you. But after talking with corporate, we've decided to go a different direction. We'll definitely keep you in mind, though. Good luck in the future. That's what it feels like. Right, right, right. Oh, I mean, we'll definitely keep you in mind.

That was haunting. That was an amazing ability to slip into HR speak. That was me applying for jobs in 2007. Yeah. Every time. There's this book, Good to Great, about companies that beat stock market expectations consistently over decades. principle called the hedgehog principle, where every company that thrives as hard as Amazon has for like the past 30 years has like one thing that they do better than anyone else in the world. And they just repeatedly double down on that thing over and over. And for Amazon, that thing is

extracting inhumane amounts of work out of people while paying them low wages and then hiding that process from the consumer so that it seems like it's just a fucking magic trick like they're able to perform miracles where you click a button and the thing arrives at your house to the degree that i feel like it has changed how we think of the time space continuum like i was i was in the woods over the weekend. Can't go camping without bragging about it because I built a fire. Good for you. Yeah. Like a real... What a manly man. Yeah. Right into the woods.

Don't worry about it. Anyways, my five-year-old was, as I was fucking up dinner, you know, hot dogs and mac and cheese over a campfire. Mac and cheese apparently shouldn't have little black things in it. And he was like, hey, let's just order sushi and have it appear out in the woods. Because Amazon has, you know, it's not like Amazon is our food delivery service.

Right. But I feel like just generally it has created a reality where things can be ordered on your phone and magically appear. And so I had to explain to him, well, there's actually people who do that work and would have to drive all the way out here. And it's just not possible. But yeah, the fact that it's not just magically appearing, that people are doing backbreaking work to make these things appear and being paid poorly is that's the thing that they figured out. Right. My kids have the same, well,

not Owen so much. He's only two, but Elliot, who's four is all about, but can we buy it on your phone? Can we buy it on your computer? Yeah. That is where everything comes from.

Can't we summon it? Yes. Yeah. It's literally like a magic trick. Like just, yeah. Why doesn't it just come out of your phone? When I order something and it takes, you know, 10 days or something, I'm always stunned by this. Because I am also so used to just clicking something and then, you know, right when you navigate away from that page, there's already an email thanking you for your order.

And then it arrives in a couple of days. I mean, it is. And I think that it's so convenient that we all choose to ignore the reality of how it's happening. It's sort of like buying a piece of chicken. I don't want to think about that there was a head attached to this. Oh, yeah. I'd rather just push that

out of my head. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's just kind of, their model is to break the social contract, but hide that from people so that you don't have

to think about it. Or just, or that it's like, hey, I mean, they're breaking the social contract, but like, I got this fucking waterproof Bluetooth speaker in fucking like 18 hours though right

yeah yeah if same day delivery right and it's also caused me to like realize to like to actually try and challenge myself to not rely on like that instant gratification aspect especially like with consumer goods like i'll try and go to a store if i can just to kind of remind myself that there is this like there's a process to things still because when it gets so obscured versus like click click click click click bing it's here i'm i find myself getting a little more like impatient like you know especially like when i was like trying to get stuff for like a move or something like having to order things and do all this other kind of stuff i just became more and more impatient because i lost touch with like the former reality

which used to be like all right we got to get in the car and go to the store to get this stuff today right but you know but it has made things easier for other people so to each their own but i'm i can see it being a slippery slope for me yeah we are back and forth between like never using amazon and then like occasionally using it when like something is needed but we are generally trying to be a no amazon household and it definitely adds days to the process but it's definitely the other thing that's good is most places that you would buy something off of like buy something from amazon like if you go to their website they're usually like yo get 15 off just off the rip because we're competing with ourselves against

amazon for us we'll ship it pretty quickly and when i actually kind of started looking at it like that i'm like oh yes it's really not that hard especially if you know and if i needed something immediately like band-aids and shit go to fucking cbs yeah exactly amazon prime that shit yeah that's good it's good like our brains work better when our feet are moving so it's good to like go do something instead of just making it it's good to visit that mom and pop store, CBS. Yeah, exactly. Don't you think of the little the little guy? Yeah. Walgreens. Well, let's let's talk about Seattle cops. They are protesting the demand that they get the vaccine. That is that has proven to be a bridge too far to protect themselves from a thing that is the number one killer of police in the nation. Yeah. If you go to the officer down memorial page like website where it's there to like honor and fallen law enforcement,

the covid page is so lengthy and like it's wild when you scroll because you'll see like clusters of multiple deaths like in a certain place, like whether it's a correctional facility or like a smaller sheriff's office but even on that page it's like ran to like honor the phone they're like please get the fucking vaccine it's the number one killer of law enforcement please but most people have looked at this as just a culture war thing as it evolved out of the uprisings, I think, of last summer. And, you know, every every place is dealing with a different way. In California, you got Alex Killa Nueva. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Alex Villanueva, the sheriff here saying, I'm not going to enforce vaccine mandates. I'm going to lose half my guys and

then they won't be able to be current in their deputy gangs. Google LASD gangs. Also, quick reminder. And then also, if you look in Oregon, there was state troopers who tried to get a judge to block the governor's vaccine mandate. The judge was like, this is well within their purview as governor to mandate this for public health people because they're trying to protect you and the general public from the ills of a pandemic. general public from the ills of a pandemic. And with Seattle there, they have about 38% of their like officers and staff are not vaccinated. And the deadline is approaching and the mayor has been trying to do like all this stuff, like, okay, well, if you, how about more paid leave? How's, how's, how's an additional 40 hours of paid leave to address any

pandemic COVID related issues that paid leave to address any pandemic COVID related issues that you have to address. We'll give you that time off. In addition to the 40 hours paid leave, we gave you at the beginning of this pandemic. So you have two free weeks just to use for whatever you want to say is COVID related. No,

still not still want to, you really going to turn your back on these pensions that people are paying through their teeth for. Okay. So it's a bit of a waiting game to see what happens. But the mayor does not seem very, you know, doesn't seem quick to suddenly be like, oh, yes, religious exemptions for a city that's famously not religious. And then the New York Post, of course, tied it to how mean everybody's been to police for a long time now. You know, once you think of their feelings, there's this quote in this article.

The environment has been pretty toxic and negative, one unnamed officer told Fox 13 News. Not just from this whole mandate, but prior to that as well. I'm not sure this would be a good place for me to work long term for my mental health. It has been very stressful. There's an episode of Friends where Joey has a hernia. He's in a lot of pain from his hernia and he doesn't have health insurance. But he's like, if I get health insurance, I think I'm going to get LASIK. And they're all like, what are you talking like?

You are in the midst of a medical emergency right now. But he's talking about like the, you know, elective surgeries he might get. And for some reason, I keep being reminded of that. Like there is a pandemic that is trying to kill all of us. And people are sitting there being like, but what about my freedom to resist? And people are sitting there being like, but what about my freedom to resist? And I know that in their distorted Orwellian view of what's going on, like people are using the emergence, you know, this deadly pandemic frustrated by the anti-vaxxers. I went on kind of a social media binge over the weekend because I've become aware, I've become very aware that I have a phone compulsion addiction. And an episode of my show, my guest was Pete Holmes and we were talking about it and he kind of held a unflattering mirror up to me regarding the in in a in a gentle kind way like regarding

the phone compulsion addiction and like not making me happy and so in that conversation I kind of realized like I need to get a grip on this and probably be on my phone less so in light of that I felt like I went on like one last hurrah and just like the wheels came off and I barely saw my family all weekend because I was just fighting with anti-vaxxers online. And it was such a waste of time and it was so stupid. And I'm still irritated that I spent my time that way. And I don't think I moved the needle for anyone. But, you know, ultimately, I was just going back and forth with someone who's like definitely a follower of Q.

Right. with someone who's like definitely a follower of Q who believes there's a huge conspiracy going on and wouldn't even tell me what the conspiracy is. She's like, you've got to go to this website, make an account, like this website where free speech is allowed. And I'm like, why can't you just tell me? Like, this is like an MLM. Like she just wouldn't, she's like, I've told you where to go to get the information. It's called research. And it's so factual that they have to hide it behind. I'm like, why can't you just tell me? She's like, because you wouldn't believe like you have to see it to believe it. Just start by accepting that everything you think you know is a lie.

OK. I mean, it was so frustrating. I haven't. No, I haven't. It's so. Oh, my God. But anyway, are, like, ultimately,

does it all come down to, like, are they followers of Q? Do they believe there's a huge conspiracy? Are they just dumb? What's going on? I mean, it's a good, the door is creaky and ajar to the Q room

if you are in the lobby of anti-vax, you know, right. That's for sure. So it's easy to because I mean, already there is so much conspiratorial thinking around what this vaccine is or is not that I think that's that's a really good, ripe, good, good soil for fertile soil for us to be able to sprout new green shoots of other conspiratorial thinking as well but then there are people who are just like you know og like people who just don't like vaccines who i'm somehow like what how have how have you not gone to q world yet

you're just still just being like no man it's these vaccines just very narrowly because my whole thing is like big pharma conspiracies. But I love Costco. Right. Sure. Yeah. All right. Maybe that's how you've justified your beliefs. But yeah, I mean, I think it's a broad spectrum,

but I've definitely seen people go from flat earth to Q or from flat earth to anti-vaccine to Q. There's, I mean, hey, there's so many ways you can get there. I'm just wondering with these cops, like why are they, it's the same with healthcare workers who won't get the vaccine. Like what is going on? And yet the vast majority of doctors who have a greater understanding of medicine are vaccinated.

Yeah. Yeah. I think there's, there's with the cops. I think it's, it really boils down to the same people who had our backs in the summer of 2020 are people who don't like vaccines. So I think,

and because there's a lot of overlap there anyway, it was just sort of like, yeah, no, this isn't about what you say is a real vaccine or whatever. I'm already in a sort of mindset where i'm not going to hand joe biden a win or liberals a win or anything like that so that's how i'm probably like looking at it because there are cops that are vaccinated who are just

like nah man i've seen too many other cops die so why the fuck would i do this so even within that i mean it's it's you know, there it's hard to really parse through all the differences. But I think a huge block of these people are the same ones who are, you know, hate the language of reforming law enforcement in any shape or form. And because people who want to reform law enforcement tend to also believe in vaccines, then it's like just anathema to them. Right, right. It's also strikes me as like a issue with just the culture in police forces is very much, you know, it started as with, you know, just technologically, the stuff they were inheriting from the military was very much like we're taking this technology, this war technology, these weapons, these vehicles that the military uses in, well, like being an invading force in a

land where they view everybody as an enemy. And that has always been, but like increasingly is how police forces view the communities that they police in a lot like that seems to be the mainstream way of viewing it. where their ways of operating is questioned. Like, I think just, I think you're right. It just like created this like cultural, like rift in police forces where they were just like, all right, now it's really on now. Like this is kind of what they always wanted to believe is that everybody was against them and that they were the last good guys in a land that has like lost its soul or

whatever and so now this and yeah there's a scary overlap between that and and q and i don't know it seems like a very this was always like one of my big concerns when like in the kind of years of the trump administration was that like if they just openly got the police to join in on whatever fucking wild conspiracy that he was going to make up like that that that's a pretty powerful force that they have on their side it felt like that happened at times yeah yeah in small pockets but it's like one of those things like if suddenly, you know, every every department was like, no, we're going lockstep with what this guy is saying. Yeah. Then you truly have your shock troops that are armed like on the streets to. Right. Like remember in Oregon when when vans were picking up protesters.

Right. Kidnapping. That. Yeah. That felt like that was happening then yeah yeah for sure and like in a in like that way where they're like oh shit people are actually videotaping us all right dial that back a little bit but yeah i mean that's sort of i think like we've seen people feel that based on how the president was talking when it was trump that then they suddenly they had carte blanche to do whatever the fuck they wanted. And some places, you know, quite took it that way. But yeah. And I get that mind. I don't condone it at all. But like I as an observer, I understand that mindset. I just don't know how that extends to. Therefore, I won't get vaccinated. Like that's

the link that I don't understand. I think because on some just I think just basic. I think because on some just I think just basic, you know, psychological terms to take the vaccine would acknowledge that you're in a situation that you're completely out of control, like where you're completely of what control is or what outside factors affect my life. But if you suddenly capitulate and you're like, fuck, yeah, I got it. I got the vaccine. Then now you're you're fully I can imagine like if you're so afraid to like to to relinquish your perception of what control you have over your life to then to be like to acknowledge there's shit that I'm not in control of. And this is the best thing to protect me. That's just, again, I think there's too much for somebody to go there because it's easier to just stay in this very rigid mindset where, well, if I don't do this, then it's fine because I've been okay and I'm in control. It's just me and my God-given antibodies and the dozens of other vaccines that have kept me alive to this point. It's about sunlight.

It's about vitamins. Thank you. Healthy food. Thank you. Natural immunity. The person I was going back and forth with told me she'll pray for me because clearly I've gotten the experimental jab. I don't even want to find out what i put in my body and that i probably have about three years max yeah oh well all right it's been fun

i'll christian them to pray for you that is so nice isn't that so sweet right i well at one point i just wrote jesus is provax i don't like i don't know what i was doing yeah all right where picture where like, you know, those old like fucking paintings like of Jesus doing shit. Yeah, exactly. But it's Jesus getting vaccinated. Yeah, that's I mean, someone should do that. They're at direct cross purposes. Although I guess you could just say when you're talking about. Yeah, the heroin one.

It's not the heroin one you're talking about. Yeah, the heroin one. So there's a heroin one where like a junkie is like shooting up and Jesus is putting his arm in place to be like, I'll take this suffering for you. Right. Which actually just seems greedy if you. Yeah. Hey, I got good veins. Look at this vein.

Look at this vein. This one's fucking popping, dude. It's right. It's not like Jesus is going to have an OD. Come on, dude. I can slam H with the best of them. But like, why? They could just be like that. Just label that vaccine and put that down there.

Like it would have the same message, right? Oh, yeah. Jesus is helping them avoid the vaccine. Right. And Christ is again, once again, giving up his body so you can be free in the kingdom of heaven. Oh, my God, Jack. I might have to switch lanes here and be like a psyop against evangelicals. Yeah.

To be like, no, man. I don't know if we're really thinking about this, how Christ is. You know when you got the vaccine and suddenly there was just one set of footsteps on the beach? Why did you forsake me when I got the jab? Jesus was actually carrying you over his head like a WWE wrestler just about to body slam you. Or you're a guy who says you had a near-death experience. You went to the gates of heaven and they almost sent you to hell because you weren't vaccinated

because it showed you were vaccinated, right? No, no, no. That you weren't just to get more people on board like no man i'm telling you oh i've never been more frightened than when i looked saint peter in his eyes and he said i will cast you to the depths of hell for not getting the moderna johnson and johnson or pfizer biontech mdm rna vaccine okay okay yeah all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and hopefully we'll have time to talk about Kachka. I don't know if we've left ourselves the 45

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or are we just pathetic and very bored yes uh yeah people i did not know yeah i did not know what this was until you wrote this compelling story and like me i need i need a younger person to ask me what i think in a text message like what huh the who yeah hold on now. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He cheating. He cheating. But yes, the latest TikTok fad is analyzing just a fairly innocuous video of a young woman going to surprise her long distance boyfriend at his college. And she had help from mutual friends to pull the surprise off. And they even recorded it. And she was just more like, this is a nice moment. And I just wanted to put it.

It's very uneventful. I will describe it to you. She enters with her rolly bag. Some people in the apartment are like, oh, look who it is. There. Her boyfriend is on the couch with two other women. He gets up slowly. He's not outwardly, you know, like beaming with smiles or anything or jumping up and down or screaming or being smiling, though.

He's covering his face like, oh, my God. Like, yeah, it yeah it's but i've seen i'm saying it's not explosive yeah i've seen surprise party reactions though that are very similar like the person just like almost feels like sheepish like yeah they've been tricked they're happy but like they're like oh my god you guys i can't believe it that's the sort of ambiguity that's generating all this talk because again he gets up hugs her it's over it's kind of boring if you just look at it as you know whatever video that you think would go viral is there's like music playing in it that sounds like some shit that would be blaring out of like a karen's car oh my god to call the cops on you because you did a wheelie on your bicycle in front of her neighbor's house okay but yeah so i think we've all seen the clip yes yes i have now watched it and again this has created so much commentary and analysis where everyone goes the way this dude got up is sus

the way the the two chicks on the couch they didn't do nothing they weren't happy or anything sus he i think he had a woman's hair tie on his wrist sus he was i think he hated he got his phone from underneath his arm that the young woman sitting next to him handed him sus why does she have his phone right and why are you handing it back like that? Like you're doing like a, you know, like a coordinated, coordinated body language thing. Yeah. So, again, I present to you all you. What is everyone's assessment is? First of all, do you think it's so apparent that it deserves all of this attention that or is it possible that he's just awkward and was like, yo, you're shooting this shit, too?

I told you I hate this TikTok shit. yo you're shooting this shit too i told you i hate this tiktok shit but it is i i will just say at the outset like there are probably a hundred other examples of very similar videos because everything has been filmed on social media very similar videos where the person was clearly not happy to see them this i think is only becoming a thing because it's so like down the middle and boring that you can kind of project anything you want onto it. Ooh, it's bad art friend all over again. Yeah.

It's like, so I think, I think the point is not that it's obvious. The point is that it, there are so many fuck boys out there who are like, Oh, what are you doing here? Wait, why'd you come?

Like, you know, who would respond to this like in a very shady and obvious way, but the fact that this person was kind of subdued and that allows you to kind of both be outraged that people are making a big deal out of it or also outraged on the behalf of the surprisee is couch guy's lady friend yeah yeah but Allison I want to hear your take my reaction was he doesn't seem excited to see her he didn't now I if I am wondering if I had just seen it without

knowing that you know that it was the couch video, if I might have had a different reaction, because I was primed to notice things that seemed off. But I bought I buy into the idea that they are not going to last because he really didn't see he didn't pop up. I didn't see him smiling, but maybe he was and I can't see that well anymore. But I sound like I'm like 95 years old. This is the last this is my last podcast episode. I remember when Joey had a hernia. In my day, we watched Friends and got vaccines. The one where Joey has the hernia.

But anyway, to me, the whole thing with like passing the phone, I tried to see that and see if there's anything suspect about that. That didn't really read to me. But in general, my reaction was like, yeah, he really took a long time to get up. He didn't seem overjoyed. However, in my day, we smoked pot in college and we would have taken a long time to get off the couch. So if the answer was they were all really stoned, that would explain everything to me. But no one has offered that. I don't. For me, I'm not in the camp that he's cheating.

I didn't see any cheater tradecraft, so to speak, occurring in the video. What would that be? Oh, an overexcitement to see that? Yeah, just some. These are the things I would believe. That, I don't know what year of college they're in, but trust me, if it's the first two, chances are he's checked the fuck out over a long distance relationship. And he was probably sitting with these two ladies that, who knows if he, I've been in that place and you start being like, yeah, you know, just not working out between us. We barely see each other.

Because really what you're doing is you're, you're being like, you know, I'm kind of open to shit. You know what I mean? That's what I'm going to come to some of my problems right now. And it felt like his energy may have been more like, oh, shit, she's here, y'all. The one I was telling you. Hey, girl, like, how you been? There's definitely... I will give that.

His response is one that I would be a little bit maybe upset about if I was the person surprised. But I don't know if I can see cheating off the out the gate like other people are this. You see the one where like the woman was analyzing it and she's like these two other girls in the thing. They are not her friend. And other women know this. They weren't happy for her when she came in they didn't get up and embrace her with open arms those aren't your friends and chances are they weren't because maybe you just popped in on him in some random really nice apartment because that apartment was really

nice why would why would why would it why would you think they were her friends she's surprised that's exactly her boyfriend out of college that she doesn't go to he is smiling i'm just re-watching it over and over again he's kind of beaming and just like a little bit subdued and kind of being like oh my god like i i can guarantee they're not going to stay together because they are in a long distance relationship while in college but it has nothing to do with this right it has nothing to do with this video and this whole thing because people are looking at this clip like the fucking zapruder film trying to be like oh there's just this frame here like look at what's going on there no no no no this says everything even though it doesn't there now the people that are in the video are like so tired of all the attention. Couch guy, he like he put out a tweet or something.

He said, quote, not everything is true crime. Don't be a parasocial creep. And then other people said, you can gaslight your girlfriend. You can't gaslight all of TikTok. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. This isn't even you.

Y'all are jumping to such conclusions. I cannot believe what I'm seeing. And then his roommate, Couch Guy's's roommate was like people are like putting like sneaking messages under our door asking about the video and he said well y'all are so fucking creepy sometimes i can't um he's and then uh just saying it's like watching a soap opera and knowing who the bad guys so there's just like all these weird you know everyone has a take everyone's insisting even if the people were like we're fine that's it was just a video i posted to be like commemorate a thing and now we're subject of all this analysis i wonder if all this attention might hasten or

delay their otherwise natural breakup though think about what it must feel like to be them right now because they have to prove it's like schrodinger's couch guy like they have to you know everyone's observing it and that's got to be a pressure cooker oh of course yeah yeah because if couch guy is cheating for real or if he was going to break up bro you better buckle up for the long haul here if your ego's in the way like that right because in his mind he's like man like they fucking got me and i can't let him get i can't have an update post from her and have reddit being like we know it we were right it is crazy that this has gone viral to this degree though because it is such an otherwise boring video yeah of very little happening there's i think a lot of people look at it like on TikTok, especially like people love to do deep dives or like, you know, anti-vaxxer.

People have been doxxed through like these like clever TikTok accounts. So people like there's a language within TikTok to like get deeply analytical. And I think it's just like, you know, just in general, I think Americans, especially like they're just, you know western culture they're into solving shit you know like whether it's like snitching on your insurrectionist neighbors or co-workers on james like yo let me just tell you something i know that guy was there i've seen it on this facebook or these other assholes who thought they solved the zodiac killer case people just i think have this desire to get to the bottom of stuff. And in some cases, like, it's completely inappropriate or you have you don't even have like the lightest semblance of the facts to even begin to, you know, hypothesize about something. But this is making me realize

something. So I posted a snippet of my back and forth in an Instagram story with one of these anti-vaxxers. And she accused me of doxing her. And I'm like, what are you talking about? You were commenting with me in a public forum. But on TikTok, if that's a thing and they consider it doxing, that must be why she said that. Or no, it'll be something where someone will have an account that's like really popular, but it's hidden. Like you don't know who's behind it. And then they'll sort of unmask the account more so than just being like people being like, Hey, I, I have a rightful expectation to privacy on Twitter. No, you don't.

You don't. Well, that's what was, yeah. That's the thing is it's like, you're, we were deep into Candace Cameron's post anti-vax post. And I had left, I had put a comment in there and then she was going back and forth with me and yet said that by my posting a snippet of that in a story which goes away that's doxing her and i was like oh please please girlfriend yeah oh hi look at this person i'm talking to who's like

yeah coming up in my shit you're not saying this're not saying, this is this person's full name. This is where they work. This is their address. But I guess for those people, they need those buzzwords to say like, I don't know, maybe they think you have some super powerful harassment account

and they're going to be like. I think she does, but. Yeah. I don't think that happens. You're like, check the numbers. Okay.

Yeah. Maybe you should be scared. Okay. I don't know. Do we think this is really because the zodiac killer is one of the kind of recent zeitgeist phenomena that could that i still haven't really made sense of because it's almost like a new batch of people just joined the internet all on the same day and are like we found the zodiac killer and. And it's like, wait, huh?

Internet class of 2021, what's your project? Right. And like, you know, the FBI immediately came out and said that the claim that they identified the Zodiac killer is inaccurate. The case remains open. We talked about like the evidence they've laid out so far, like some forehead wrinkles and his connection to a case that they the police already said is not connected to the zodiac and was based on a so it's like

it's it's just uh but it got major pickup and like that's what everybody was talking about how the zodiac killer case had been cracked last week is there like like, is TikTok like adding some a new infusion of energy to like the we solved it like sort of thing that happened on Reddit for so long? I think it just gives, I mean maybe that there's another

venue for it. I don't know if it's necessarily like a catalyst for increased desires to do that. But i think probably just in general like in the last five years with misinformation and things like that people are want to be in a place where they're like i won't get fooled again and they want to look at everything and and try i mean because it would again back to this idea of control if you look at even a normal tiktok video and say that guy's cheating and blah, blah, blah.

And I know it. No further questions, Your Honor. Right. Like, I don't know if I'm not sure what that person's personal relationships might be like out in the real world. But I don't know. I mean, it certainly gives a place to, like, project that energy and like in a way that I guess seems constructive. Or I guess because we're commodifying everything in this age. Now you have a piece of content where you're,

you can get some shit, man. Wait, wait till they find out about the JFK assassination. That's going to really fuck some people up. That's your whole belief. You're like, come on,

zoomers, bring, bring daddy home. Who did it? You knew it was that secret Service guy who Aaron shot. It was an accident. Allison, as always, such a pleasure having you. Where can people

find you and follow you? Follow me on social media. I promise I won't get into it with you. At Allison Rosen on Twitter and Instagram and then listen to my podcast, Allison Rosen is your new best friend and Instagram. And then listen to my podcast, Alison Rosen is Your New Best Friend and Childish. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes.

Do you guys know Tim Kalpakis? Yeah. Do you know who that is? Have you had him on the show? I don't think we've had him, but I'm a fan. He was my first sketch comedy writing teacher. Oh, really? Yeah.

So he's in The Birthday Boys and The Sloppy Boys, and he's been on my podcast a bunch. And he tweets, it's at Tim Kalpakis, but he keeps changing the personality of who he's tweeting as. And for the longest time,

it was Linda Underwear, and now it's Beverly Mysterious. And Beverly Mysterious is, it's Beverly Mysterious. And Beverly Mysterious is it's like the personality of someone who thinks they're breaking like gigantic bits of gossip. Like everything is like hushed and mysterious. And I'm having trouble articulating the personality, but I just I'm I'm endlessly amused by everything Tim tweets. And so an example of like a Beverly Mysterious tweet is, it seems a certain big butt rapper's cousin's friend may not exactly have the tiniest balls anymore. And then it's an emoji of an eye.

It's just like a lot of ridiculous stuff like that. That's amazing. Oh my God. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying twitter instagram at miles of gray also their show for 20 day fiance with sophia alexandra where we talk 90 day some tweets that i like man there's there are some good ones okay i don't know

if you might have to put me onto this people who go to Trader Joe's, but this is again, this from Tess Lynch, a past guest at Mr. Tess Lynch tweeted, quote, Trader Joe's employees have to congratulate you on your purchase denier until today when the checkout guy said, this apple juice is so nice. and i was like wait is this a thing like at trader joe's that they'll comment on the things yet because i remember yes when i got spicy mango lemonade the other day the manager not even someone checking me i was like oh is that yeah i see you and i was like the fuck and i was like what do you mean like you know i'm gonna drink this with vodka later or what that's good so again if that's true i just like that idea like that this apple juice is so nice um and then one more from uh at fat nudes hegg bundy is this play name says megan fox and machine gun kelly are the angelina jolie and billy bob thornton for zoomers hey some tweets i've been enjoying you can find me on twitter jack underscore brian uh tweets i've been enjoying ian carmel tweeted 20 year olds are out here with baby pictures that

just look like a current picture of a baby and not like a grainy still from a true crime documentary like the rest of us and first mate prance at Bokxtop tweeted, Don't understand people who are productive during the weekend. Weekends are for feeling weird and wondering if your friends hate you. And then PJ Evans tweeted, Willy Wonka is so weird. I've had chocolate too, bro. Not going to act all weird because of it.

Willy Wonka's back because of the Timothee Chalamet picture that we all witnessed. Alright, Wonka, you're proud of the character of Willy Wonka. Hey, where's you going, Goose Wonka? You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you guys

might enjoy. Miles, what song are we sending them to today? We're going to go out on a track called Vibrate from Mr. Jukes and Barney Artist. This just sounds, when I was listening to it at first, when the beat dropped, I'm like, is this like a unreleased track from like fucking Midnight Marauders or something? So if you like Tribe and you like that boom bap, possible J Dilla type production, this track has just those good old 90s rap vibes that I love.

So this is Mr. Jukes and Barney Artists with Vibrate. Awesome. All right. Well, go check that out. The Daily Zech is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning.

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