The Daily Zeitgeist - Scientists Flee Sinking (Dictator)ship, Plane Cra$h 02.21.25

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Like that's who that's how I was. And it fucked me up like big time, you know, whereas I think people who could just be like, it's in God's hands now. Like, I'm just out here. I'm just like an instrument for God. Those are the people who end up on the Super Bowl because that's a much better way to think about how, you know, how, how you have to operate.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Yeah. Like that guy who took acid, he was like, and like pitched a perfect game. Yeah. He just like, yeah, acid superpowers took over my body and, uh, it was perfect. He also walked like 17 people. It was truly one of the worst, best performances of all time. He hit like eight people. Like, I'm beating them niggas, boy.
Starting point is 00:00:50 But like, when he was locked in. He was so bad, he was so bad that nobody could hit him. I mean, he did win the game and pitched a no-hitter. Made it remarkable. But while high on acid, unintentionally so. It's one of my favorite stories of all time. Yeah The grades What would you do if mysterious drones appeared over your hometown I Started asking questions. What do you remember happening on that night of December 16 actually rotate
Starting point is 00:01:28 around our house looking at the hearing in each window of our home. I'm Gabe letters from imagine I heart podcast and letters entertainment. Listen to obscure. Invasion of the drones wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Hey, Brooklyn Nine Niners. It's a reunion. The ladies of the Nine Nine are getting back together for a special episode of the podcast, More Better. Host Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero welcome friend and former castmate, Chelsea Paredi.
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Starting point is 00:03:29 This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Friday, February 21st, 2025. How's everybody doing with the February? Do you, do you just go full February? February, February? February February I like make a slight nod to the first are even though I don't I don't feel like it should be February I used to just I used to say February February. It's got a real rural juror thing to it February black history month got the short end of every stick the short
Starting point is 00:04:04 February. Black History Month got the short end of every stick. The shortest month. That's so fast. The hardest fucking month to say. Yeah. Nobody know how to spell it. People be misspelling February with regularity. Oh yeah. January was all year. February went way too fast. We're flying. It was too quick. January felt like the rise up of the roller coaster and now we're flying. We're whee. Flying, we're on a drop. And not just people in airplanes that are falling out of the sky,
Starting point is 00:04:33 but everybody kind of feels that way. I feel like. Anyways, Friday. Start clapping when you land everybody. Clap your hands and clap your feet. Starts a miracle. It's your feet. Starts a miracle. It's a miracle. It's a miracle.
Starting point is 00:04:47 That's back too. It's a fucking miracle. My name is Jack O'Brien, AKA, water ice, spilled on my thighs on a kiddie ride. Da-da-da-da-da. Water ice, spilled in a place that I couldn't hide.
Starting point is 00:05:04 That was Waterloo Abba, courtesy of Rezik on the Discord. You know, you try to get vulnerable with your listeners one time two years ago, and they're still making fun of me for it. I came off a scary ride. We were talking about scary rides and just rides in general before we started recording came off a scary ride noticed that there was wetness on my pants and I Absolutely certain I hadn't pissed my pants, but I don't know I still have no explanation for where the wetness came from
Starting point is 00:05:38 So I just said that it was from wood or ice that somebody had spilled on the ride before I got on Somebody came and it tripped on you. Someone can't, somebody somebody who's a freak is like, yeah, going upside down. They can't help themselves. Can't help it. Yeah. That's also a possibility. Uh, it was the Jersey shore.
Starting point is 00:05:58 So I think that equal, equal odds that it was water ice. It's hair gel. Yeah. It's nothing. It's just hair gel, mom. Hair gel. Yeah. When I went and saw something about Mary with my mom,
Starting point is 00:06:09 she turned to me at that point and said, what's he looking for? After he like jacks off and then is looking for his load. He's like, he's looking for his load, mom. He just jacked. Anyways, it was the most unrealistic part of that. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I know you got to introduce me, but we men feel where the cum is. We feel it. We feel it. We feel it. We have like a second sense. We got a second say, well, you know, we come on ourselves. We feel it. We feel every drop that hits our stomach and chest.
Starting point is 00:06:42 If that shit hits your ear. Yeah. Yeah, I do feel like the ear. That's crazy. There must be some part of the something about Mary lore where he has something where he lost feeling in his ear at some point. When I saw that when I was younger, I was like, that's funny, that can happen. And as I got older, I was like, that is the most unrealistic shit I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I wish that this train of thought would just stop running down this track, but if your mom has never seen where it goes, do you have like 862 siblings? Or I don't want to be thinking about this either. I'm so sorry to your mom. This is not how I wanted to join. Irish Catholics, you know. Mom, if you're listening, my mom and your any moms.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Oh, I mean. Never a drop wasted among the Irish Catholics. This is also not something I want to be saying right now. We are thrilled to be joined in our second seat by an award-winning podcast host, writer, producer, comedian, actor, host of the must-see live comedy show, Comedienne Clash, nay, Comedienne Feud. Welcome back to the show. Today's guest co-host, Jackie Sneo! Bring it here, bring it here. Psych gang, you know we've been here from the set out. Come find me, come find me when I step out. In these streets, these streets, these streets. Woo!
Starting point is 00:08:18 Ah, what up, Negros? How we doing? What's up, man? Shout out, shout out, Grossfacekiller face killer on the discord sending me a little aka Nobody sends me aka is no more and I appreciate you and they should as demonstrated by One of my favorite singers, you know And he's not gonna come up with these things off the top of the dome now Yeah, my brain ain't as quick as it used to be shout out to gross killer one of one of the best doing it in
Starting point is 00:08:44 I love it. Uh discourse jakey's the brain ain't as quick as it used to be four years ago. Shout out to Grossface Killer, one of the best doing it in the Discord. J'Kees, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat. Hell yeah. By another one of our favorite all-time guests on TDZ, a hilarious standup comedian, comedy writer, actor, fashion icon whose shirts are available at Guarantee guarantee shirts.com. It's Caitlin Gill. I'm not saying I'm not well, I'm Caitlin Gill.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I got nothing else, but I thought that that was the loudest, most off key thing I can do. Yeah. And I, yeah, a little bit. Beautiful. I'm not sick, but I'm not well and it's all right. I'm Caitlin Gill. You know, there you go.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Caitlin, so wonderful to have you back. How have you been? Such a thrill to be here. I've been well listeners may recall for many, many moons ago that I am. Uh, I live in a desert compound. I live out in the high desert in California, um, on five acres of aggressive plants and life is pretty nice out here. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:09:47 What's the weather like in the desert right now? Either too cold or too hot. And right now we are comfortably in between. We have a few weeks of weather where it feels easy to be outside, but that's just there to attempt to betray you in coming times. It's snowing in March, and then in, you could fry an egg on your hand outside. It snows? It does.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Are you in Southern California? Yes. I'm outside of Joshua Tree. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. 29 palms if you want to zero in. They talk about how people moved to New York because there's these two glorious weeks on either end of like winter and summer,
Starting point is 00:10:25 where it's just, you know, spring and fall, and it's like the best time to be anywhere ever. And like that is shrunk down in the desert too. It's like 15 seconds on some days, as the sun sets, like a shadow sweeps across, and it's like, that was pleasant. Okay, there it goes. I went to Humboldt State University, which now Cal Poly Humboldt, which has their orientation week in October, the one week when it is not raining out of,
Starting point is 00:10:52 there are 51 other weeks of rain. They just really bring you up. Yeah. Well, it's great to have you here. It is great to have you here. Thank you. This is where horseshoe politics comes to life, where if you follow your political philosophy far enough, you wind up in the same place
Starting point is 00:11:05 Which is apparently eyeing your neighbor. Where Ali through your fence. That's Where they're yeah. Yes. Yeah, uh-huh. Like mr. Wilson on home improvement. Yeah, essentially. Yeah, you never see each other But you know that the other ones there. They always there mr. Wilson always hit his face for a reason, you know Yeah, there's that vibe out here, too for a reason, you know, he was on Jan 6th. Yeah, see, there's that vibe out here too. Mr. Wilson was on Jan 6th. He was on the Capitol on January 6th. He was like, ain't nobody gonna know how I look when I'm on the Capitol.
Starting point is 00:11:30 All he has to do is change his hat. Change his hat and he good. Completely throw the FBI off his scent. I don't watch sitcoms that much anymore because they're not as popular as they used to be, but what a funny- Because they barely exist. But what a funny- Because they don't barely exist. Because they barely exist.
Starting point is 00:11:45 But what a fun sitcom trope is that you have a character throughout the entire run who never shows his face. That's such a funny trope. I love that so much. You know, he was- It crossed over to the hour long dramas. I'm a murder she wrote girl and you never see Sheriff Mort Metzger's wife. And the canon I have created in my mind about who and what she is, is long.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I can write some extensive fan fiction if so inclined. Is his wife Wilson from the neighbors from Home Improvement? I'm going to say there is a universe in which that is not far off. Yeah. I think his wife is the black lady from Time and Jerry that we never saw her face. Okay. But we only saw her from the bottom down, which I know was done. She can be anything you want her to be.
Starting point is 00:12:29 She can be anything we wanted her to be. Wilson, the actor who played Wilson was actually many actors that they just kept killing and replacing. Oh, okay. Like the story you hear about Lassie? Like in the 50s? They're like, Lassie was actually a composite of 15 different dogs because they kept throwing the dog actors down wells or whatever. God damn.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Anyway. Poor Lassie. Poor Lassie. It's great to have you both here. We're gonna get to know you, Caitlin, a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we'll be talking about later on. People, and this is gonna surprise you guys.
Starting point is 00:13:07 People seem to be fleeing the United States. Wow. For some reason. Whatever for? Exactly. So we'll just look at that and wonder, and just ask that, wait, what? Huh? Specifically scientists.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Germany is looking at the US as a new talent pool as science goes out of fashion among the ruling class in the US. We'll talk about that and whether there are any historical precedents for that. Let's talk about Delta. They're making a generous offer. This episode brought to you by Delta. They're making a generous offer to those passengers who happened to be on that flight that belly flopped and then flipped over, but they all survived.
Starting point is 00:13:55 So maybe they should just think about it as like an extra fun. Like people go, people pay to go on rides like that. I don't know what everybody's being so weird about. Like people go people pay to go on rides like that. I don't know what everybody's being so weird about but anyways, they made an offer of 30 K to the Passengers who almost died on that like a we what do you think? It's Take it or leave it. No strings attached So we'll talk about whether that's a good deal or not all that will probably talk about
Starting point is 00:14:26 Amazon taking over control of the James Bond franchise. But first, Caitlin, we do like that. Yeah, that's why I was asking you if you're a Bond fan. Interesting. Uh-huh. Okay. Amazon, Jeff Bezos, one of my favorite creative minds, Jeff Bezos has taken over the James Bond. Bezos production. Bezos production. Caitlin, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history
Starting point is 00:14:49 that's revealing about who you are? So just last night, I did a deep dive on the Children of the Bride cinematic universe. It is a made-for-television movie series, a vehicle for Rue McClanahan, in which he marries scandalously a much younger man, first portrayed by Patrick Duffy. But don't worry, none of the actors repeat in any of the series. There are a few. I mean, Christy McNichol was in every single
Starting point is 00:15:17 season. But Children of the Bride spawns a baby of the bride because Rue McClanahan has a very romantic honeymoon and winds up pregnant at the same time as her daughter Kristy McNichol you who used to be a nun and then fought a mother of the bride the third Installment in the series in which her unlucky and loved daughter manages to marry a cop. It is a wild ride Any fans of mystery science? It was 3,000 who followed them to riff tracks might know that it is also rift by Bridget Bridget and Mary Jo some of my favorite rivers, but it is it is utterly absurd. It's madness I love every single second of it cannot get enough. Are these horror based or like science thriller?
Starting point is 00:16:01 Very hallmark. So in a sense they are horrifying and a little bit of a science fiction. But no, they're just canned ridiculousness. Also, they're rom-coms. These are drama television films. Yeah, they're rom-coms, definitely. There's like a sibling dance party to a very bad cover of I Will Survive. Okay. There's Christian McNichol falls for a bad boy biker
Starting point is 00:16:27 who talks a lot about his bike. Oh, wait a minute. Was Miranda Cosgrove in one of these movies? Ooh, yes. Or I think, oh, because, okay, so this is- No, that's an actual Mother of a Bride. That's in a real movie. That's in a real movie.
Starting point is 00:16:39 So Miranda Cosgrove, Rachel Harris, Chad Michael Murray are in an actual movie called Mother of the Bride. These are not actual movies. These are absurd, not regular movies. You can still find them? Yes. I don't know where else they would be searchable beyond the Rift Racks universe,
Starting point is 00:16:58 but that is where I found them and that is where I watched them too many times, extensively. It's a wild move to start the franchise with Children of the Bride, where the cheeky title is, she's marrying someone so young it could be her son. That's the child of the bride. And it's like, okay, that's kind of uncomfortable, but it's like an older lady and the man's just younger.
Starting point is 00:17:24 And then the sequel is Baby of the Bride. Baby of the Bride. That's kind of uncomfortable, but it's like an older lady and the man's just like younger. And then the sequel is Baby of the Bride. Baby of the Bride, where Patrick Duffy is replaced by Ted Shackleford. So the husband switches. For the last two films, Rudy's husband is played by Ted Shackleford. New husband. New husband. Same character name?
Starting point is 00:17:40 We're just supposed to accept it. Uh-huh. Same character. Okay, got it. These are TV movies. There's no continuity here. In fact, part of the premise is that each movie starts with a voiceover for Rue being like, this is the house I raised my children and I was married in. By the third movie, it's a totally different house.
Starting point is 00:17:57 That location was just already booked or something. Yes, I have watched it enough to know for sure that it is not the same house from the first two movies. Patrick Duffy, Ted Shackleford, Switch, anybody would notice, but you really have to be a codice or the series to observe that that house is not at all the same as the one they film the first two in. Are all these in the universe of the Steve Martin, Father of the Bride? I would like to think that there is like a crossover here.
Starting point is 00:18:24 And it's like I kind of want all the Hallmark movies to exist in the same universe. Like every ancillary character you see through a window is having a beat cute. Like they've been separated since high school and he's an executive and she's a baker or something. And they need to save the rec center or whatever. If every movie is like the subjective experience of one of the characters in it, these are just movies in the same universe, but from the subjective experience of like a much stupider person from that family, you know? These are from 1990, 91 and 93.
Starting point is 00:18:57 So like right around the time, probably like trying to cash in on Father of the Bride, maybe? Yeah, that makes sense. Father of the Bride, I think was early 90s. This might have maybe Father of the Bride was trying to cash in on this. Maybe Father of the Bride was 91. See, this is why we deep dive. Now I need to look at the production teams and see what kind of crossover there was
Starting point is 00:19:18 between writing production studios like who tried to run with the Hallmark presence. For real. 91 for Father of the Bride bride could have been in production. I'm going to say that the children of the bride was made over about a week and a half. I'm going to say father of the bride could have already been in production at the time. Maybe it's an Armageddon deep impact issue where
Starting point is 00:19:38 every studio just had to have one in one of the studios was Hallmark in this case. Yeah. I think from a historical perspective, it's probably like some of the younger listeners might not remember a time when like TV movies were a thing. And I do like it. They were just bad, worse movies made by TV for TV. And they, I think they probably had something to do with why TV was so looked down on for so long. Oh, definitely.
Starting point is 00:20:08 For a long time, there was like, well, I'm a movie actor. I would never do TV until fairly recently, until prestige TV became a thing. Yeah, prestige. I think these were the reason because they were like, we've seen what movies that you try to make look like, you guys. Yeah, they're really great. They're terrible. It's so much fun. Caitlin, what's something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:20:36 Something I think is underrated. This one series, don't worry, my overrated will be ridiculous. City Council meetings. Okay. be ridiculous. City council meetings. So I live in a small town, although it has a huge military base and an entrance to a national park, there's about four people that consistently attend city council meetings, cannot recommend it highly enough. Most important politics are local. I bet where you live, you can go to city council meetings and feel like you might be able to make an impact in your immediate environment, even if you're in Los Angeles, I mean, I'm on the West Coast, pick a big city wherever you are. Your city council is probably very busy, but there's always all kinds of commissions and boards and
Starting point is 00:21:16 they all have to have public meetings so you can go and observe what's actually happening on the ground level. So your local politics are very accessible and I highly recommend jumping in with both feet. Fascinating. It feels like a good thing to do, and it has direct political impact on your community. That's cool, but also you can just live for the drama. If you want to bring some hot Instagram tea into real life, you can definitely witness it in real time, but using Robert Stroll's order, it is fascinating.
Starting point is 00:21:48 So go for the impact, go because it feels like the right thing to do, but stay for the drama because worth it. I love it. Do you go to these and do you participate or you just check them out? I do. Yes. So I expect I'll yell more about this later, but I do still. OK, I make T-shirts. You can go check those out if you want to.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Although I switching the screen printing so slowly but surely they'll get even better. But what I actually do out here all the time is astronomy tours. Oh, every time I come on, I've started a new business. I feel like I'm pushing MLMs, but I swear I'm not. These are all such cool ideas. Josh, what do you astronomy adventures is my own love thing. So I started a business out here. I have telescopes.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I take them to the national park and show off stars and stuff. I'm gonna hit you up for a while. Me too. Yeah, come on out. Oh, man. Is it child safe? Six and up is a good idea. A younger than six has no idea they're on a planet.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Once you hit six and above, they're like exiting dinosaur phase, entering space phase. So that's kind of a cool window to catch. It is the exact opposite of a comedy show where like children actually bring a wonderful energy that catches among the adults and it's like beneficial. Do not bring your children to comedy shows. Do bring them to comedy shows. They give great feedback, great notes.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I bring my babies to comedy shows. I don't even have babies. I just find a baby and bring them. That sounds really cool. It is really pretty cool. But also to the city council point, it is something that I think we, especially because, you know, federal and big politics gets most of the media attention. And I'm not saying unrightfully so, but I do feel like we often hear like how
Starting point is 00:23:33 important local politics are, but it's very easy to not follow through with the importance of them. So I think it's dope to like actually hear going to your city council meeting and like pushing that and like talking about that. And you know, in LA, I feel like we definitely have gotten a little bit better with local politics and things like that. But yeah, I think it's a great thing. That's so dope. LA City Council is going to be packed. It's going to feel big. But LA has a billion commissions and committees and entities that have others.
Starting point is 00:24:13 So follow the threads of whatever you're curious about. If you like planning, there's a planning commission. If you like arts, there's an arts commission. There's always something to go weasel in on. But I do own a tiny business in a tiny town. There are a lot of reasons why it makes sense for me to try to meet people and get involved, but I found it quite rewarding in a time when it is very easy to feel powerless, finding the things that help you feel like you have some momentum.
Starting point is 00:24:40 You're moving forward, you can actually have an impact on what's happening around you is grounding feels good. And there's no like massive lobbying interest. I bet you can like buy a politician for like 750. Oh, so you can buy one I mean, it's it's wild how much The smaller the town the more important it is that you go to these meetings, right? The more direct your impacts can be and you know. I live in a very conservative place. I know for sure that my city council is split ideologically, but the way people are just happy to see you there. I know that people who voted against
Starting point is 00:25:15 my interests as a human being are holding a door open for me being like, thank you so much. Oh my goodness, you're going to give public comments? We have a new friend. I disagree with your existence and yet please speak for three minutes. I'm begging you. That's so cool. It's an interesting, when you disagree on a national level, you still need to figure
Starting point is 00:25:34 out if you're going to put lights on that stop sign, like together. Right. So there you go. I don't condone in any respect working directly with fascists, but figuring out if you're going to get lights on that stop sign is an interesting way to meet people in your community and just find some kind of dialogue back and forth. Yeah, that's great. And if they're going to start doing fascism at a local level, better.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Got to be there. Got to go. Got to be there to hear. Be like, what are we going to do there? The more glad ladies carrying Leatherman that are in the room, the less likely that is to happen. So. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
Starting point is 00:26:08 We'll hear you're overrated and we'll get into some news. We'll be right back. Don't worry, it's ridiculous. Have you ever looked into the night sky and wondered who or what was flying around up there? We've seen planes, helicopters, hot air balloons, and birds. But what if there's something else, something much more ominous, that appears under the cover of night, silent,
Starting point is 00:26:37 unseen, watching? They may be right above your car late one night as you cruise down the road, or look like mysterious lights hovering above your home. Drones. Or are they? We used the word drone because it was comfortable to other people. One minute it was there and one minute it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Oh that is beyond creepy. Do you feel like this drone was targeting you specifically? Yes, absolutely. Listen to Obscurum, Invasion of the Drones on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The more better the merrier, title of your podcast. All your old Brooklyn Nine-Nine friends
Starting point is 00:27:25 are appearing on your favorite podcast, More Better. Don't miss Brooklyn Nine-Nine stars and show hosts Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero, as they welcome their friends and former castmates back to laugh about old times and swap some stories. This week, it's Gina Linetti herself, the talented Chelsea Peretti. Remember when we were in that scene
Starting point is 00:27:43 where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing there? Oh yeah! I was like, can I also hug them? Then next week, the 9-9 nonsense continues as the more better amigas sit down with Joe Lattrullo, AKA Detective Charles Boyle. There'll be more laughs, more conversation,
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Starting point is 00:28:16 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here? How goes lower? I met Santi at a luau party in October. I'm Santi. Damien. Oh, it was bizarre. The guy just disappeared one day.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Santi has been missing ever since. The hookup. What is that? I'm solving a mystery through sex and haven't made a private dick joke until now? Like, no matter how hard I try, all roads lead to the hookup. You think it's causing people to turn aggro? I'm gonna rip your arms off and use them to f- Yeah, that's a word for it. This is such terrible representation, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Poppers? These aren't just any poppers. Mama always used to say, God gave me gumption in place of a gag reflex. No, not my psychiatrist didn't laugh at that one either. ["I Heart Radio App"] Listen to the hookup on the I Heart Radio App, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen
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Starting point is 00:30:09 Yes, that was a real horse's head. Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Canole on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back and Caitlin Gill, we do like to ask our guest, what is something that you think is overrated? Stop putting so much stuff on french fries. They exist alone as a delicious side. They do not. So this is a West Coast problem that I feel like exists everywhere.
Starting point is 00:30:44 But if you've gone to an In-N-out burger you are aware that you can order an animal fry Which is all the animal style stuff on friends that includes cheese grilled onions the sauce I feel like pickles are incorporated somehow. Please stop get the burger eat the fries Yeah, now if there was like a Wendy's in-and-out universe crossover And you said here's a baked potato and there's lots of good stuff on it interesting interesting Please tell me more about this product fries are fried Fried is crispy do not and I know in-and-out fries are devices in them in and of themselves They are not the crispiest of fries
Starting point is 00:31:16 Which is why it's even more important that you do not throw a bunch of stuff on top of them It's a fry in the catch up minimize the contact time with anything liquid in nature and then consume the fry. I do like a dip fry. I don't like, I don't like, I don't like ketchup. I do barbecue sauce. Cheese, you gotta, I don't mind cheese on the fry, but like. I'm not right about this. Like if you disagree with me, you're not wrong. I just, I personally feel like fries should be preserved in their in their holy state, please So Victor Victor asked a question. I'll ask his question and I'll ask my question one. He asked his poutine too much Has never wanting to offend a Canadian. I'm gonna say No, it isn't You can say yes, he does have a microphone so he can't say Yes, he does have a microphone, so he can't say anything. I would never do this, but my perfect poutine would be like a little gravy,
Starting point is 00:32:07 warmer and curds on the side to assemble it myself. OK. I won't. It's just what I want. No food. No, that isn't the correct way to eat poutine. I also feel like poutine is the big flat steak fries, which is a whole different conversation. I get you. Now, now for like the accoutrement of the fry I get that like no Listen, just give me the fry. But what about?
Starting point is 00:32:30 Seasoning what about? All the best fries with a weird like The ones that come frozen with the crackly to like seasoning on the outside Yeah, crinkle cuts good, but now she talking about the ones that look like they get like. They're a little orange. It look like they need to go to the dermatologist. They do, yes, yeah, that's an excellent fry. Yeah, like I'm trying to think of who has fries like that.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Like, do you remember like, maybe not. I was gonna say, do you remember like checkers or Raleigh's fries? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I traveled with that. Some of the curly fries have like some of that around it. a lot. Curly fries have some of that around it. Curly fries have some of that.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Yeah, some of that a little bit too. Yeah. Yeah, season. So as long as we get, listen, I'm with you. As long as we get seasoning on the fries, all the extra shit shouldn't matter. Now, it could be extra. No, I'm a white woman.
Starting point is 00:33:18 It's very fair that you ask. Our reputation regarding seasoning is deserved and awesome. But I myself am very pro-seasoning and use it extensively in my own cooking. Yeah. All right, all right. But I've been saying for years, mayonnaise way too spicy. Way too spicy.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Too much flavor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got to try water, man. Oh, water dipped fries. Water dipped fries.
Starting point is 00:33:43 You just spoke something in existence on TikTok that I know I'm gonna watch in outrage. I do love poutine. I think I do generally disagree with this take. I will say that every time I've had cheese on fries, the cheese congeals too. Like it never quite works out the way I'm hoping for it to. It gotta be good cheese.
Starting point is 00:34:03 It gotta be the good cheese. Yeah, yeah. It's gotta be the good bad cheese Yeah. It's got to be the good bad cheese. It's got to be like melted nacho container cheese. That's, I mean, it needs to be the unnatural color of yeah. Portillo's got the best cheese fries, but it's dip. You dip them now. They give you the cup of cheese and you dip your fries. Yeah, I'm sure Chicago has this down to a science.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Now, here's where the hypocrisy comes in. Many excellent taco trucks offer the loaded fries with all the taco, the burritos items on the fries. Don't, I'm not into it, but give me a California burrito with fries in it. I'm on board. Oh, interesting. Put fries in things. Yes. Put stuff on fries.
Starting point is 00:34:39 No. Gotcha. Wow. So you like spits. They do their euros with fries inside of them. Yeah, I'm into it. I can get this I'm on board They do their euros with fries. I'm into it. I can get this. I'm on board with. Which is very good.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I love it. Yeah. I do think they need to be crispy fries though, right? Like you can't just have side fries. The crispness is going to dissipate the longer you enjoy them. It's the real first bite phenomenon. I like any food that structurally challenges me to eat it as fast as possible. I accept the challenge.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Worse. Yeah. challenges me to eat it as fast as possible. I accept the challenge. Yeah. McDonald's fries being, I think, the number one thing that goes bad with time. Oh, yeah. God, they're so good straight out of the fryer though. All right. Speaking of out of the fryer, I don't know. I can't make the transition work.
Starting point is 00:35:22 There you go. Into the roasting pan. Into the roasting pan. We seem to be seeing the early signs according to the New Republic. The people, nay, scientists even are planning to flee the United States to greener pastures. They noted, and I don't know why they picked this historical detail out, but I'm just going to read from this report or I'll read from the New Republic summarizing a report in Der Spiegel.
Starting point is 00:35:51 The German news magazine reported that the Max Planck Society, one of the world's top scientific research institutions, is experiencing an uptick in applications from American scientists. Its president said the society regards the US as a quote, new talent pool at a time when the Trump administration seeks to cut billions in funding to the National Institutes of Health. There's a deep historical irony in these recent developments. During the Third Reich, it was the Max Planck Society, then known as the Kaiser Wilhelm Society, that lost its best and brightest to the US and other countries, including Albert Einstein. Just a random historical anecdote there, I guess.
Starting point is 00:36:41 That's a coincidence, I think. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. That's a coincidence, I think. Yeah. But, uh, there's also, you know, there's this spike in searches for dual citizenship law firms that specialize in people seeking dual citizenship by descent are like being flooded with, uh, people reaching out, but we're also
Starting point is 00:37:00 seeing immigrants from Africa, Venezuela, and the middle East were apprehended fleeing to Canada from the United States, which I think we're going to probably see more and more of. I'm looking ugly. Very ugly. Taking a long look at Mexico. That's pretty cool. But yeah, I just think American exceptionalism is going to have a difficult time making sense
Starting point is 00:37:21 of what the new normal is going to be in these next years. And that like, they have to be worried about Americans fleeing. I mean, they're solving Trump's problem for you. You know, he's so worried about overpopulation or underpopulation or whatever he, his justification is for- Well, it's a little bit of both, right? It's over some populations under some populations. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He's worried that we're getting less white. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:37:46 He's really worried about. And then, you know, but yeah, this is, this is interesting. I, I, you know, I'm 38 now and, you know, for most of my adult life, I've never considered like living anywhere else outside of the country. But over the past like five years, as I've traveled a lot more outside of the country, and then this country has always been terrible. I'm very happy that white people are starting to see how terrible this country has been
Starting point is 00:38:23 for a millennia. It feels like, but like, but the, the feasibility of what we were told when we were younger, that like, you can only have the best life in America. And cause I'm like, racism can be anywhere I go, but if I can like go somewhere where like some things are better than how they are being presented here, like it's becoming more of an option. And it's just like, and I think a lot of people are feeling that way, you know, is, you know, the planet is fucked. But the thing that is annoying is we seem to have people on this part of the world in this country that are hell bent on making life worse for so many people, just from like a class standpoint.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Like, and, and you know, and that's when, that's when things really start to, when you start to fuck with people's money, then that's when they start to realize, uh, how bad things are, but like, it's getting pretty bad, whereas to the point where it's like, yo, man, we can't even get health insurance. We can't even get like this, that. I was in Japan last year and like their trains ran, their buses and trains ran to the time that it said on Google map. We can't even get on time public transportation in America. I
Starting point is 00:39:48 didn't even know that was possible. And I grew up in Chicago where we had a lot of public transportation. I didn't even know it was possible for a bus to be at the bus stop at 845 when they said it was gonna be there at 845. I just was like, oh, traffic dictates that's not the case. But for some reason, other places have figured this out. It's so, it's so crazy. And we're going to see a lot more people leave, I think, because this dream that
Starting point is 00:40:12 we've been like, given that things are going to be the best that they could possibly be here has been flawed for many years and people are starting to see that a lot more, especially when you have racists and Nazis in office, basically. Yeah, I think the, you know, safety and opportunities like seem to be the two things that people are going to respond to. And I feel like people probably starting to feel much less safe as planes are falling out of the sky and various parts of the infrastructure breakdown. And, but I think the opportunity that the thing America has always predated itself on as being the land of opportunities, but as the entire infrastructure is being vandalized by the president and, you know, just all opportunities are being funneled upward to people who are already billionaires.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I think we will probably start to see people react the way you would expect them to, to that fact. We've missed so many historical contexts and clues in this country. It's fun to remember that the rationalization for fascism was at least the train's run on time. That was the minimum bar that fascist leaders had to hit in order to keep its populace calm, because at least they could get to their terrible jobs that did not give them enough to sustain themselves without an awful commute. Like that was the minimum bar. And somehow we can't even hit that. Like, you know, the fascist leaders rise and fall and the train still run on time in democracies.
Starting point is 00:41:44 It doesn't, that wasn't the system, what type of system you have doesn't determine how good your public transportation is. That's the commitment you make to it's a very, it's amazing to me how badly we've failed for decades to provide for people's basic needs. It's just a lot easier to see when the leader is so scary. When the rhetoric has dropped out of the office, it's supposed to make you feel good about where we were working together to live toward a greater future used to be something that you'd hear from the pulpit of the presidency. And now it's like the mass deportations now, it definitely changes.
Starting point is 00:42:22 The tone has changed and now the glisten is gone. Yeah. When I used to hit potholes in the street, when Obama was in office, I used to be, I was like, hi, it's just, this is an opportunity. This is an opportunity to improve our community. Now I'm like, man, fuck this country. It's also very ironic that it's the Plonk Institute that is, or the Plonk Society that is seeing anck Society that is
Starting point is 00:42:45 seeing an uptick in interest from American scientists. The Planck Telescope, there's a great observatory, capital G, capital O. There's a telescope in space that did its work in the earlier odds. But there's a telescope named Planck that was meant to image the cosmic microwave background in CMB, which is like the biggest evidence we have to support the theory of the Big Bang. It's essentially looking at the microwave radiation
Starting point is 00:43:12 that fills all space. It's a fascinating image. It looks like a trapper keeper. It's just funny that the society that's reporting on it, like essentially saying they're seeing more interest from American scientists is the one that actually supports one of the most controversial theories to the theocracy that is looking to take root in America. Like not a surprise that the people who actually believe in the evidence presented by scientists about the start of our universe are like, maybe I should go. Maybe I'm going to end, I'm gonna go look at this institute that actually. Is following science. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Yeah, I mean, every successful scientific endeavor like that is good marketing for, you know, it's like, well, look what they're doing over there. Meanwhile, like NASA did that really cool thing where they altered the trajectory of that comet. Yeah, the dark mission. Yeah, and now like Elon Musk is like, NASA did that really cool thing where they altered the trajectory of that comet. Yeah. And now like Elon Musk is like, we, that didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Uh, we, we have no defense against the city killing asteroids. It's just, it's like, they're going out of their way to just make it a worse place for scientists, which feels like a bad strategy for leaders of a country. It does, especially since like Elon Musk has gotten his entire fortune stealing from scientists. Yeah. What are you talking about? He's our greatest scientist. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:37 He's Iron Man. Well, directly from taxpayers funding bizarre science in the form of defense contracts. I just want to mention because we're talking about trains running on time, And then the tax payers funding bizarre science in the form of defense contracts. Like, yeah. I just want to mention because we were talking about trains running on time. The one piece of good news that we have seen in the past months in this, on this show was New York Times, New York City's congestion pricing, where they created a toll that was going to cost people money for driving in cities.
Starting point is 00:45:06 It was a thing that we had seen really turn some urban landscapes around, turn other cities around. They put it in place at the beginning of this year and people were like, I can actually hear the birds in New York again. You can actually get from one place to another. The buses started running on time for the first time that anybody could remember. And, uh, Trump is, I called it at the time. I was like, I don't think the capitalists are going to want to see this succeed. Like, I don't think they'll let this succeed because it's too, too just like plainly evident
Starting point is 00:45:47 that like, oh, when you have laws that actually are just made on behalf of the people who live there instead of on like with the, you know, oversight of corporate interests, people's lives improve in just these like tiny ways that are like some somewhat noticeable. Anyways, Trump is basically trying to cancel that program. New York City is fighting back, but it's a- Pays to be the king, you know? Pays to be the king, apparently.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I mean, he's openly calling himself- But it pays in like Trump coin, so I'm not really sure how that's going to work out. It's going to work out good if they have anything to say about it. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Have you ever looked into the night sky and wondered who or what was flying around up there? We've seen planes, helicopters, hot air balloons, and birds,
Starting point is 00:46:47 but what if there's something else, something much more ominous, that appears under the cover of night, silent, unseen, watching? They may be right above your car late one night as you cruise down the road, or look like mysterious lights hovering above your home. Drones or are they? We used to work drone because it was comfortable to other people.
Starting point is 00:47:14 One minute it was there and one minute it wasn't. Oh that is beyond creepy. Do you feel like this drone was targeting you specifically? Yes, absolutely. Listen to Obscurum, Invasion of the Drones on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The more better the merrier. Title of your podcast. All your old Brooklyn Nine-Nine friends are appearing on your favorite podcast, More Better.
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Starting point is 00:48:41 How goes lower? I met Santi at a luau party in October. I'm Santi. Damien. Oh, it was bizarre. The guy just disappeared one day. Santi has been missing ever since. The hookup. What is that?
Starting point is 00:48:56 I'm solving a mystery through sex and haven't made a private dick joke until now? Like, no matter how hard I try, all roads lead to... The hookup. You think it's causing people to turn aggro? I'm gonna rip your arms off and use them to- Yeah, that's a word for it. This is such terrible representation, I'm so sorry.
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Starting point is 00:49:41 This is Leave the Gun, Take the Canole. The five families did not want us to shoot that picture. Leave the Gun, Take the Canoli is based on my co-host Mark's best-selling book of the same title. And on this show, we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the godfather's birth from start to finish. This is really the first interview I've done in bed. Ha ha ha ha! We sift through innumerable accounts, many of them conflicting, That's nonsense. There were 60 pages.
Starting point is 00:50:10 and try to get to the truth of what really happened. And they said, we're finished. This is over. They know this is not going to work. You gotta get rid of those guys. This is a disaster. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Kahn, Talia Shire, and many others. Yes, that was a real horse's head.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And so again, people pay money to go to amusement parks. Delta gave people a free thrill of a lifetime with a passenger plane that belly flopped on landing so hard that it flipped over onto its back and nobody died, thank God, miraculously. And I don't know why we're even still talking about this. Nobody died.
Starting point is 00:51:14 We're good here. Nobody died. They're offering passengers $30,000 with quote, no strings attached. The lawyers are being like, you should talk to an attorney before you accept that. That. Yeah. Don't don't accept it. You can get more.
Starting point is 00:51:31 They said that the taking the 30,000 doesn't affect any lawsuit in the future, but I do not believe that I still would have a lawyer review that fine print before you go to that fine print before you take that money for sure. Because if you give me $30,000 and I can still sue you for $5 billion, yeah sure, go ahead. Right. Yeah, go ahead. Give me money. I'm still gonna take you for everything you got.
Starting point is 00:51:58 This is why I'm learning things about planes. Like there are things about planes that we all knew. Like they fly, they rise, they land. They can sadly explode in the air. They can crash. I didn't know a plane could flip over. On the ground, Denzel movie flight, I should have. But see, even then he was coming from I did. I don't the Denzel movie, Flight. I should have. But see, even then, he was coming from,
Starting point is 00:52:25 I did, I don't know how, I will say this. Maybe I don't know how the plane flipped over. Do we know how the plane flipped over? Was it in the air and then it landed on his, on his belly? Because as it was landing. Belly flopped onto the ground. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:41 And so hard that it just flipped over onto its side Yeah. And I didn't know I blew up. I didn't know a plane could do that. I didn't know. Uh, like Delta, we should be thanking Delta. That was like great freestyle plane landing. They're showing us new things in the art of plane gymnastics. I'm early for a tweet I enjoyed, but I got to give credit to Sammy O'Bade that he tweeted, he posted that, you know, what else did you expect other than a landing
Starting point is 00:53:11 at a weird angle from an airline called Delta? That's pretty good. True. True. Very true. He's so good at math. I would have, would you, would you, would you, would you like, would you hold out for more than 30,000?
Starting point is 00:53:26 Cause some people are like, that's not enough. And I'm like, but I can still sue. But I can still sue. It would pay for the attorney. I mean, it did. We get to a better attorney, I suppose. It's a weird, like getting ahead of it in this way seems very odd to me. It's a strange number to choose.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Like at least it's not 30,000 miles. Like I don't know. Uh, I don't, I don't know. Their liability here is probably a little bit vague. Like I feel like the offer is because they know that a lawsuit would not be successful because tickets we buy also have fine print in which the airlines basically like if we kill you oopsies There's not you know the the contract you make when you buy a ticket from an airplane
Starting point is 00:54:11 You know or an airplane you buy a ticket from the airport you go up to the airplane gives it from an airline I have a feeling is is pretty layered But you know it's one of those say I just click the terms and conditions and buy I have not layered, but you know, it's one of those, I just click the terms and conditions and buy. I have not all the fine print on my airline, on my tickets either. Although I haven't flown much because I'm 6'1", 240, I'm not, I'm not trying to fly coach anymore unless you're, I can't. I would have been wedged into that seat seat belt or not. I would have been hanging upside down and nothing would have need to restrain me. I couldn't get out either way. So the people next to me, that's the one moment if I was in a middle seat, but the two people next to me would have been so glad I could have just extended
Starting point is 00:54:46 my arms and we all would have been significantly safer. I got you guys. I got you. Yeah. Safe. Yo, it is. I, man, let me tell you, I'm not scared. I've never been scared to fly ever.
Starting point is 00:55:00 And I don't know what it will be like the next time I get on the airplane. Um, well, I guess I was just on a plane three weeks ago. Uh, but like, it's going to be, it's going to be exciting. It's going to be like, it's going to be like Goliath, you know, at six, at magic mountain. That's right. It's going to be like, I would take this 30. Here's the thing. I would take the big thousand, obviously I would read the fine print and everything
Starting point is 00:55:22 like that, but if they were offering 30,000. You know that they really could be offering like 60,000 to each. They, they go offer, they don't start with half of what they probably, they can offer a million, but they don't start with like the lowest fucking offer that they could possibly give for what they deem is like their fault in the situation. There's a book from early aughts, maybe even late nineties called, I think the corporation that like covers this whole idea that has recently become more and
Starting point is 00:55:57 more kind of a focus among people criticizing the U S that like corporations have legal rights as human beings and they're forced to act as psychopaths by their bylaws because they can't take into account like whether they can't have something in their laws or they could, but they don't have something in there like bylaws that is like, well, if it comes to like something where we're endangering a life, then obviously we do everything in our power to not endanger that life. Instead, they, you know, there's been studies into like car companies and other companies that have to make those calculations of, okay, like we just found out that there's this defect on this car that is already being manufactured. We could stop the manufacturing and fix it. That would
Starting point is 00:56:53 cost us 300 million dollars. Or we could let it go out, probably going to kill three to five people and the lawsuits that those people sue us with are going to be 5% of that. And so we owe it to our shareholders to, you know, make the financially responsible decision that kills the people. Like they're, they're doing the trolley problem and being like, fuck them kids, essentially. It's almost like you need a government to regulate who's going to switch the trolley, and they can actually just stop the trolley instead of just letting it go.
Starting point is 00:57:37 This book was saying this before Citizens United, and now we have Citizens United, which made it so that corporations are the only thing that really has any power to operate and only thing that really has any government representation. I don't know. Maybe Teflon in my blood just makes it less sticky. Maybe DuPont was doing us all a favor by making it so that literally you can't find a control sample to test the effects of Teflon in our body because literally everyone They've ever tested has it maybe microplastics in my brain brain. Just give me tiny little plastic thoughts
Starting point is 00:58:11 Yeah, it's like a ball pit up there Planes plane flights are not getting more dangerous. They're getting more fun Getting more like a ball pit. So just, I don't know what everybody's complaining about. I hope somebody. This is how it happens. This is how you're the frog in the water that's slowly boiling. Where you're just like, well, I have to fly,
Starting point is 00:58:35 I'll just be excited about it. Right. Well, I'll just have slick blood. Well, I'll just have a ball pit break, that's fine. I'm going, on the next flight that I take, I'm going to raise my hands at the beginning of the flight like I'm on a roller coaster and not take them down until the end of the flight. You're land until you land the whole time. You're just, whoo, whoo, whoo, compression socks on your arms.
Starting point is 00:58:55 That's going to mess up your blood flow. That's true. So 43. All these plane things are happening, like under the Trump administration and and you know, all the firings and the FAA and everything like that. Like, I hope, like, I would, this is the, this is the petty I would be as a Democrat. I would like start running my presidential campaign now and like take over the MAGA and it's just like make aviation great again.
Starting point is 00:59:21 And like, it's like, that's what MAGA would be. There's so many ways that that's what's so mind boggling is there's so many tangible ways that people that they're, you know, greed and oligarchy are affecting people's lives and the fact that like the Democrats can't get a coherent message around it. It's wild. Yet, we'll say yet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:48 It feels like, yes, there should be many opportunities. This feels like the first most tangible, horrifying way that we're seeing is blindly firing and just government at random as just power play without literally any planning. It's pretty easy. Yeah. Waving a rule book at somebody who's long sense passed on playing by any rules, it's not working and they just can't put it down.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Timothy Snyder wrote, there's an author Timothy Snyder book is on tyranny. Excellent, very fast read. But the section that keeps jumping into my head over and over again is don't capitulate until you have to. Like there's not, you don't have to obey the rules until they are rule. Don't get ahead of yourself. You know, because some weirdo signs an executive order that says it's the Gulf of America. That's not a law. That isn't a change. You actually don't have to relabel a map to respect that. Or an order isn't. You don't need to, you don't need to do that. The firing strike me that same way
Starting point is 01:00:58 that there's like states aren't stepping up to fill the gap that these federal firings are leaving behind. And I understand the intricacies between state and federal government, but we're past that now. The 10th amendment is a little bit elastic. And at this point it has been stretched to a place where like what's expected from citizens of their government to provide the federal government is no longer providing things like safe aviation. So if a state needs to step in and say,
Starting point is 01:01:27 actually our airports do need to be fully staffed, then they need to do, like you have an opportunity. They could do that, yeah, yeah. You don't have to pretend that this is a rule you have to follow, but we do. Democrats are definitely doing that. What are we supposed to do? That's what Hakeem Jeffries was like, well, what do we do?
Starting point is 01:01:43 It's like so many things. So many things. Governe, motherfucker. Yeah. All right. Caitlin. Yes. It's been such a pleasure having you. It's always a treat.
Starting point is 01:01:52 It's always such a treat for us. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I'm on Instagram as Caitlin is tall, but the follow I would love the most is at JTreeAstronomy. Our website is jtreestronomy. Our website is JTreeAstronomy.com. If you ever find yourself in the high desert, come and look at the stars. Self-important, yes, but science communication has never been so important. It's a great way to feel more connected to the universe around you, but also a tiny rebellion every time you take in new scientific information and share it with others.
Starting point is 01:02:24 So if it's been a while since you've been able to look up and see the stars, I cannot recommend that perspective highly enough in these interesting times. I know I appreciate it very much. So come here to the galaxies. Do we have a celestial event coming up like something with our planets lining up? Oh, no. Yes, yes, we do. Um, the planets are always in a cool alignment. The solar system is very tidy. The sun sits in the middle and all the planets orbit the sun on a flat plane.
Starting point is 01:02:53 We call that plane the ecliptic. So from the earth, we get a cool view where the sun, the moon, and all the planets actually pass our view along the same line of the line we call the ecliptic. Right now it's not that all the planets are in a line as in one right after the other. In their orbits, they all find themselves on the same side of our star. So yes, there's a whole bunch of planets out right after sunset. Saturn is kind of slipping out of the view. Sunset's getting a little later. Saturn appears pretty low in the Western sky. So you get a few minutes of a blurry Saturn through a telescope but Venus, Jupiter, Mars are all very easily visible. Mercury is about to join the party.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Uranus and Neptune are overhead but you definitely need a telescope for those. I have a digital scope that does a pretty cool job with Neptune but even through a conventional scope Neptune looks like a cool blue dot. But yes all the planets are easy to see right after sunset right now. And Pluto. a cool blue dot. But yes, all the planets are easy to see right after sunset right now. And Pluto. Pluto is too cool to be a planet. You'd think what makes a planet would be a hard and fast rule. It isn't. It's actually a little bit more rubbery. But the one thing they kind of stick to is that if you are a planet, your orbit around your star is clear. You're essentially
Starting point is 01:03:59 made of all the stuff that would have been in that path. Pluto is out there in a whole parade of objects. They're also orbiting the sun. Objects that catch all for literally everything. A galaxy is an object, an asteroid is an object, and this goes to asteroids. There's a whole bunch of almost planets, of stuff that was trying to become a planet, but various forces already formed in
Starting point is 01:04:21 the solar system stopped that from happening. Pluto was orbiting with thousands of other objects, stuff. So Pluto's too popular to be a planet. We're just like eight with like a few hundred moons or whatever. Whatever. Pluto's out there with like thousands. It's got an entourage. It's just like the boss in its neighborhood and billions of miles away from the sun. The sun looks like a dot. It looks like a big dot, but it's just a dot.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Like our party is just not that important to Pluto. We're like eight like minutes from the sun. The sun looks like a dot. It looks like a big dot, but it's just a dot. Like our party is just not that important to Pluto. We're like eight like minutes from the sun. They're like light hours from the sun. They're like, they got their own thing. I love it. I got to come to one of these tours. I yell about science a lot. That's what I've been up to online. So if you want to see both me yelling about science, you can check that out to J.T astronomy or at Caitlin Iztal on the Instagrams. I'm off the X. I've been off of Twitter since he did the, let that sink in booth. I dipped out at that point.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I love a good pun, but let that sink in with Elon carrying the sink his intern. When he did, when he took over Twitter. Yeah, it was, I knew it was the end for me. So I have not been doing much there. And I'm 44 next week. So TikTok is, I should be arrested if I tried to hang out on TikTok, unless you're already established as a huge viral presence, you should, I'm too,
Starting point is 01:05:32 that's for the children, let them play. That's me hanging out alone on a playground. That's not appropriate somehow. Caitlin, is there work, a media you've been enjoying? Uh, I speak, I, there is, uh, there is, I see a lot from El Cordova, who I know is very popular on the YouTube and the TikToks as well. I catch the work over on the Instagram, very fun comedian, scientist, musician.
Starting point is 01:05:54 If you want to get started the way I did, just smash El Cordova planet party into your keyboard in a very fun video of the planets all gathering together. There's several of them will pop up. I like the style. I like the humor. i like the sketches they're quite funny nice and samuel bay who i mentioned earlier very funny always there you go jakey's working people find you as their work of media you've been enjoying oh jack o'brien you can find me in these streets baby i knew it i knew it you knew it you knew where you can find me you can also find me in these streets, baby. I knew it. I knew it. You knew it.
Starting point is 01:06:25 You knew where you can find me. You can also find me at Jockeys Neal. I do have some works of media. I got a couple things I'll plug for the fans right after. I got two. I got two. So as we know, cause I know, I know everybody knows,
Starting point is 01:06:41 the creator of Nutella, Francesco Rivella, has died on Valentine's Day at the creator of Nutella, Francesco Rivella has died on Valentine's day at the age of 97. Right. Damn. And then somebody at, thank you, Pam. Pouring out some Nutella, but it's taking a long time. Pour now.
Starting point is 01:06:56 It's going to come and give it, give it a couple more hours. It's going to take a month. Somebody, uh, quote tweeted that. No, I wanted to ask him why the end was black in the Nutella sign. The end is black and the rest of it is red, which cracked me up. If we got any Severance fans out there, and I am a fan of Severance, there is a hat that is being made that is making the rounds online that says your Audi gets no bitches Cracks me up if you don't know what severance is or don't watch it that means absolutely nothing to you But if you watch severance, then you know what that means is very fucking funny
Starting point is 01:07:42 So those were making me laugh. Comedian Clash is this weekend. If anybody wants to check it out. Where's that at? It's at Elysian Theater in Los Angeles. But I feel like I want to see what the Zeit Gang really talk about because I feel like I promote the shows and I don't know if the Zeit Gang is actually showing out. So I want you all to prove me want, I want y'all to prove me wrong if you are not in LA.
Starting point is 01:08:07 We got Jason Alexander and Lauren Laskus doing the show this month. Wow. And we got a live stream going so you can live stream. You can watch it live or you can watch it up to seven days after the live event. So you do not have to watch it live. But it's this Sunday, 6.30 p.m. Pacific Standard Time.
Starting point is 01:08:28 It's gonna be a fun show, check it out. Also, check out Dropout TV. I'm gonna be showing up quite a bit over the next few months. We're going into production for something pretty cool, and I think that is gonna be something that you might want to check out. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Amazing. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on Blue Sky at Jack OB and the number one work of media I've been enjoying. Jamie Loftus tweeted, the week I moved to LA, my unhinged roommate pointed at Griffith Observatory and said, that's Eddie Murphy's house. And I believed it for seven years. There's something about that because I did like know that Eddie Murphy had like an amazing house in the hills. I think I would have also believed that for a long time.
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Starting point is 01:09:35 the information we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. With Miles out, we usually like to ask super producer Justin Connor, what is a song that you think the listeners might enjoy? Yeah, there's this Chicago based rapper named Black Sam that I've been feeling lately. He's got this slow churning cerebral style. It's pretty mellow but very interesting. I've shared a few tracks with Miles the other day and we were saying it always sounds like
Starting point is 01:10:05 This guy's just got done smoking a blunt. So I've actually really helped you ease into the weekend So this is he'll go by black Sam The A's are V's instead of A's in his name and you can find that song in the footnotes footnotes the daily zeitgeist is a production of I heart radio for more podcasts my heart radio visit the I heart radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this week. We have a weekly Zeitgeist episode, which is just the highlights from this week's episode dropping tomorrow.
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