The Daily Zeitgeist - Scorpion-and-on-and-on, Laker Haters: ACTIVATE 7.2.18

Episode Date: July 2, 2018

In episode 181, Jack and Miles (he's back!!!) are joined by comedian Ify Nwadiwe to discuss LeBron James signing on to the Lakers, Drake's new album Scorpion, culture war updates with Michael Cohen, S...ean Hannity, Maxine Waters, Trump's interview with Maria Bartiromo, and more, plus some world cupdate, a soccer team that was trapped in a cave for nine days, and more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:29 Oh shit. Okay. Miles is back on the pod. Look alive, look alive. Nazis came up on the ride and we ain't gonna let it slide. Hell nah, fuck them dawg. They gonna see how hard we ride. I get Casper's my take spy and i do it with o'brien rich folk got us taking sides when we all broke and we tied i just got back in july and y'all acting like i died y'all should be expecting heat with anna choose the rides cause i told him that i left the pop forever but i lied hey hey look who I'm around, man If I fucked up, Nicky and I'll fix the sound, man
Starting point is 00:03:07 Zeitgang found, man, ED got me distraught, man Pushed me to the ends, so it really ain't my motherfuckin' fault, man I'm not to blame, man, these guest hosts wasn't yellin' footnotes It's not the same, man, cause I was fillin' up the passport Hung out with Dames, man, socialism is the wave Now we got the game plan. And I'm out here with the whoop. Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Wow, guys. I needed to come back. Keep back. Holy shit. I am jet lagged and I'm about to fall asleep. He just did that off the top of his head, you guys. Holy shit. He just blacked out for a second.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I am literally blacked out from jet lag, but guys, it's good to be back. I missed you. Shout out to all the Zeitgeist in Europe who are helping me out with suggestions. Paul in London, Adrian in Shoreditch, Duncan, Andrew in Brighton, Daniel and Beth in Copenhagen,
Starting point is 00:04:01 Joe Piazza. Yes, you guys made the trip great. This is going to be the whole show, guys. Yes. All right, now. This is my next AKA. This is based off of survival, off the first track on Scorpion. Hit the beat, Nick. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by, I think we can say, one of the zeitgeist
Starting point is 00:04:18 Mount Rushmore. One of the funniest dudes anywhere, Mr. Ify Wadiwe. Hey, how's it going, Ify, AKA? My name's Ify. My name's Ify. My name's Ify. Wow. My name's Ify. Yeah, y'all, you know I'm holding it down with my chemical romance.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Oh, is that what that was? Yeah. I'm not okay. I'm not okay. Oh, shit. I'm not okay. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yes. You got the energy in the building.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Emotional, I think, is what emo is short for. Yeah. Goddamn. What a way to start, you guys. I actually had a Eagles, a.k.a. Yeah, you bailed on it. And then Miles came. I started doing pushups
Starting point is 00:05:05 and shit Miles did his did a just tight you know dry run of his AKA and I was like
Starting point is 00:05:11 I think I'm gonna stick with potatoes over on I don't think I can do a I'm gonna turn it back lion eyes AKA
Starting point is 00:05:20 followed by that so alright if we're gonna get to know you even better than we already do, but first we like to take our listeners through what they're in store for. We're going to talk about Scorpion. Drake's Scorpion dropped on Friday.
Starting point is 00:05:34 We've had a little bit of time to listen to it. We're going to talk about the Lakers signing of Lance Stevenson and Javon McKee. Oh, wow. And some dude named LeBron. We're going to do a little update on the culture wars. Miles missed a lot of culture warring last week. We're going to talk about Michael Cohen's interview. We're going to talk about Fox's hard hitting interview with El Presidente. I think it's at Fox or some shit.
Starting point is 00:06:06 We're going to talk about the difficulty with the left not really having their own Fox News equivalent in the mainstream media. We're going to talk about a potential civil war, the actual civility war that we're living through, whether it's fair to hate Jill Stein right now. And then we're gonna get into a whole bunch of football in the third act we're gonna talk about the Thai soccer team that was rescued from a cave and we're gonna talk some World Cup day what's that I don't know I've never actually said something new yeah must be because I didn't hear a beat but first'd like to ask our guest mr ify
Starting point is 00:06:46 wadiway what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are oh man uh i've been searching uh for keto diet updates i'm trying to switch things up really trying to get that ultimate shred you know i love intermittent fasting trying to be a Orokusaki? Yeah, yeah. Straight shredder? Yeah, straight shredder, yeah. But yeah, no, so I've been going through, and obviously there's a million different approaches that people are talking about online, so I'm just trying to find the one that will fit my life the best right now. Wow, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Nice. Now what is that diet? What are just like the basic footnote, thumbnail version? Basically it's a low-carb, high-fat diet What are just the basic footnote, thumbnail version of what the diet is? Basically, it's a low-carb, high-fat diet that sends your body into a ketosis that allows your body to burn fat. Runs off fat rather than glucose or whatever. So you can't eat bread is the thing that you're basically depriving yourself of. Which I don't mind.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Really? I'm not a big bread guy. Oh, man. Big bread brain guy. That's not me. You were just in New York. Did you eat pizza? Oh, yeah. I ate pizza guy. That's not me. You were just in New York. Did you eat pizza? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I ate pizza, I think, every day. What'd you hit up? I hit this place up with a place that my good friend Timothy Jalamay took me to when I linked up with him. Hold on. Let me pick that name up for you. Wait, are you for real? Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Oh, yeah, that's right. You are homies with Timothy Jalamay. But when I went to DCM a few years ago and linked up with him, he took me to this place called Pizza Suprema. And I went back, and it's so good. Really? It's like the best. Yeah, and I went back because the homie Drew was like, I've been going to this pizza spot that's really good, Pizza Suprema. And I was like, oh, okay, let's check it out.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And then I went. I was like, oh, yeah, this is the spot. I know this spot. Yo, the Sad Boy Chalamet vibe was strong in the UK. Like, the dress style of the call me by your name vibe. I was like, whoa, this is a wave. Not for me, though. When I wear shorts that short, it just looks weird.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah, yeah, you know. Not too much BDE. Shout out to John's, my favorite pizza place in New York. Not quite as cool as the one you said. Right on West 4th Street, Subway Stop. Pretty good slice, just right down the middle. If you want something that's overrated. I think something that's overrated has to be
Starting point is 00:09:02 walking the streets of New York. Oh, shit. Is it overrated? It's overrated. Because your boy was in New York this past weekend. I was trying to, and I was getting somewhere because I was trying to link up with the guys and white women, you know, Carl Tartt and company. Never heard of them.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And I decided to cut around this group of people. My foot slips. I didn't notice the moisture. And I get like a little more than ankle deep into brown New York water. Like deeper than ankle deep? Yeah. Shin deep in New York trash juice.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Shinobi. And it just splashes up on the left side of my body. And it's so funny because everyone had just that like. Turning me to push a T, right? Yeah. Everyone just looked at me like, yep, you got got. And I was like so mad. And I was wearing my PlayStations too.
Starting point is 00:09:59 You were just had PlayStations taped onto your feet? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, my Air Force PlayStations that I just popped out of E3. Oh, okay. And it just deep. And it had that like wet sound. Yeah, just. And I was like.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And just not only is it just water wet, it's trash water wet. Yeah, water wet. And then you just smell it on yourself and you're like, oh, people are going to be like, oh, look at him. He's a trash boy. He smells like trash over there. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And it was like 100 degrees on the East Coast. Yeah. So like that was concentrate. Yeah. That smelled like trash over there. Exactly. Yeah, and it was like 100 degrees on the East Coast this year. So that was concentrate. Yeah. That was concentrated trash juice. Ooh. God. It smelled so bad.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Mighty, man. Did you just throw away your clothes? No, I packed it, and then as soon as I got home today, I just put it in the washer. Boom. I was like, I got to do it. I can't get rid of it. You put the sneaker in the washer? No, I'm taking that to Jason Mark.
Starting point is 00:10:44 No, you can't do that. Yeah. Okay, there you go. Just take it right to Jason. Yeahaker in the washer? No, I'm taking that to Jason Mark. Okay, there you go. Just take it right to Jason. Yeah, New York's, I always like walking around. I know what you mean because I've been curb watered before too, and that's not a cologne brand. It's just, it's very upsetting because you can smell it and you're like,
Starting point is 00:10:58 I literally threw my shirt away. So you're much braver than I for roughing the streets. Just on the spot. Oh, yeah, yeah. I had just bought the spot. Just took your shirt off. Oh, yeah, yeah. I had just bought the new Arsenal kit at the Puma store in Soho, and I got curbed just like in Chinatown, just all over my shirt. And then I just took this shirt off, tossed it, put the new kit on, and went about my day.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I would have liked it better if you didn't have anything to change into. You were just like, sorry, I can't do this. I'm like, forget it. I was hanging around with a basketball court, so it looks like it makes sense that I have no shirt on. Yeah, just standing like, why is Miles hanging around this best man? You can hop in now. No, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:11:36 John Winters. Threes. All right. What is something you think is underrated? This will be another New York story, but i will say uh you know nap pods i tried that out i went to this place called map york and uh and i because kind of like because i was planning on splitting the hotel with uh one of the homies on the team and i just happened to be there a day earlier than them and i was like wait what do you mean you were there for the del close
Starting point is 00:12:03 marathon yeah del close have you guys talked about this on the show? Do they know what DCM is? Why don't you tell people why people always go, especially in the improv world, DCM? Yeah, in the improv world, there was a man who is kind of credited for creating the Herald with Charlotte Halpern. There it is. And some improv nerd is going to know and correct me, but I'll retweet them. They're not performing at DCM.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Yeah. But basically, he's the godfather of improv. Right, right. And he's kind of taught all of the greats. And so when he died, the UCB4 wanted to create this festival in their honor where from Friday night till Sunday night, there's just nonstop improv shows at the theater. And it's kind of grown over the years. This was the 20th anniversary this year. So it spans over multiple theaters that are just having shows going non-stop.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And so I... You were out there with your team? I was out there with the team because UCB LA usually flies out and gets invited to perform with UCB New York. And this is also the last year that it's going to be in New York. Right. Because it's coming to UCB LA next year. And it's going to be horrible.
Starting point is 00:13:10 For the time being. It's going to be awful. Wait, why do you think it's going to be horrible? You just can't get around LA the same way you can get around New York. Right, right, right. Especially because it's probably not going to be at the two theaters. And I don't know which other ones they're going to be at. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And New Yorkers don't know how to drive. Like just like, not even like, Oh, you're bad at driving. Like they just don't know how to drive because they don't have to. So that means they're going to have to pay lifts, which will get expensive or they're going to be hoofing it for a while.
Starting point is 00:13:39 So anyway, you're asking iffy for rides. Yeah. You're like, Oh, well I got a two seat or so. But yeah, so you were out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Back to your, what was your underrated? Oh, yeah. Nap Pods. Nap Pods. Okay. So I went to the spot Nap York, and it was like basically 53 bucks to nap for six hours. Oh, shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:59 So I was like, oh, I'll crash here, because I was doing, because of the nature of DCM, I was doing a show at like four in the morning. So then after that, I walked to Nap York, slept for six hours, woke up, and then linked up with everyone. Oh, yeah. That's actually not bad. Yeah. Now, okay. I have some questions. So is it a bed that they change the sheets every time before you get in there?
Starting point is 00:14:25 Yes. But it's like a room. Oh, wait, it's a bed? Yeah, it's a room full of a wall of beds. And so like two levels of beds. And then they have like a curtain that covers it up. Oh, got you. So it's like a little bunk bed.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Like on a tour bus or something. Like inko things. Oh, right, right. Okay, in my head it was like one of those, like literally some kind of weird pod. Right. Like you sat in it. Like a tanning booth? Yeah. Like a helmet comes over you and you're like yeah rock that for six hours i love that like
Starting point is 00:14:49 if it was like a dbz saiyan pod yeah yeah let's go i'll see you in six hours and so it was good it was clean you didn't feel like you were getting scabies no there wasn't a smell on it yeah the design of the whole place was very like zen yeah if anything you just left it stinking because of all the curb water yeah yeah yeah this was pre-curb water luckily ever since I found out about those I've wanted them to went back when I lived in New York because I'm a tired human being
Starting point is 00:15:16 I would be like man it would be great if you could just dip in somewhere and take a quick nap six hours is a lot six hours is like a hotel room yeah you might as well. Because you can do as short as one hour. But I was like, I just need somewhere to crash till I get my hotel situation. I was like, let me get this six hours.
Starting point is 00:15:34 And I was out. Nice and air conditioned in there? Oh, yeah. Woo. And what does it cost you? What does it run you for an hour long nap? Hour long, I think, is about like 20 bucks. That's a good deal, man.
Starting point is 00:15:47 You're getting people up on something. You're like really getting into it. I am excited, man. Man, I like this shit. I love to sleep. The only thing I get excited about now is sleep. Sleep, right? I never sleep, because sleep is the cousin of death.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Yeah, yeah, me too. Nas clearly had not had children yet. All right. Finally, what is a myth? had not had children yet. Alright, if you... Finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Oh, man. I think that LeBron coming to the Lakers isn't good for the whole NBA. This is going to shake up
Starting point is 00:16:15 the whole NBA. It's going to be a good thing. I'm surprised that all the Laker haters who have risen, they've been quiet for... Like the fucking Thriller video. Yeah. He was just coming out of the graves like Ah! have risen, they've been quiet. Like the fucking Thriller video. Yeah. He was just coming out of the graves like, ah. Yeah, because, you know, we've been trash for a while, so no one had anything to say. But as soon as LeBron came, it was like the crypt,
Starting point is 00:16:34 we back. Yeah, no, I was saying, I was laying on the couch yesterday, and I just jumped forward, and I was like, something happened. Something terrible. And then I checked my phone and immediately it started going off that LeBron had signed with the Lakers and yeah all of a sudden all these people who have been trying to deflect hate
Starting point is 00:16:51 from LeBron have been like yeah yeah no the Lakers suck or easily hateable team you know yeah well I appreciate the segue iffy because that is going to be the first subject that we talk about LeBron is coming to Los Angeles. He's apparently already like moved in. They already sent the moving trucks and now
Starting point is 00:17:12 he's on vacation in Europe. But yeah, he's officially signed with the Lakers. It's not clear who else they're going to get other than Lance Stevenson, who has traditionally had like a famous feud with him from the time he blew in his ear when LeBron played with the Heat. But yeah, all that talk, all that noise about LeBron going to Philly. I was sort of believing it a couple of weeks ago. I stopped believing it a couple of weeks ago once. I think it was odds shark uh dot com changed the odds of like lebron going to you know la being two to one uh sixers like you know three to one or whatever two uh you had to bet six thousand dollars to win a hundred dollars on him coming to la it was like guaranteed
Starting point is 00:18:00 it was like everybody like someone just got tipped off and it was over they took the bet off the board like an hour later i was like oh somebody knows something yeah that shit is over that's a rat but you were saying that there was some dude some troll yeah there was a guy named richard hold holder we should have known yeah we should have known dick holder right he came out and he said that he heard from an inside source that he heard from chief of police the chief of police called him and said that they should bear down and be prepared for celebrations in philadelphia in philadelphia from the said that the chief police called and said that the philadelphia front office called and uh the sixers front office called and tell them told them that everyone in philly got hyped the whole city off of this one troll account got so
Starting point is 00:18:46 hyped and like he did a good job i i gotta say this is beautiful troll work because when you go and click on his page he has like a bio that's not transparently like fucked up like his one of his first things is no not one of it the first thing read his bio in order his first thing is ex-stepfather which is like i was saying earlier that's like the uh baby shoes lightly used of like twitter bios because it just like tells a a whole novel in in those three words ex-stepfather he's like sticking it to his ex-stepchildren. He's like, fuck you, kids. But anyways, yeah, he tricked the entire city of Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Oh, man. They are so mad about it. Yeah. It's a bummer. We're just happy. Out in the Eastern Conference, we're just happy to have re-signed podcasting powerhouse JJ Red Redick. He re-signed with the Sixers, which is great for the Sixers, and we'll take it.
Starting point is 00:19:52 But LeBron, the entire balance of power has shifted west once again. Philly and Boston are still probably better than any of the teams in the early 2000s were in the Eastern Conference, but the West is pretty, pretty stacked. Pretty stacked. It's interesting to have the Lakers overnight have our fortunes change. It feels good. Yeah, it's funny because before when everyone was like, well, what do you think of LeBron Combs?
Starting point is 00:20:20 I'm like, well, I don't care. Yeah. And then immediately yesterday he was like, it's just surreal, man. It's just surreal. Yeah, I'm like, wow, you don't expect it to happen to you. It's like a lottery ticket. You're like, man, a lotto ain't going to change me. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:20:34 And then it happens. And yeah, I already have the 2-3 tattooed on my eye. So it'll be pretty dope. It's just, I watch. I think, what if LeBron, actually, I'm not going to put that out there. Right, right, right. But I think it's just I watch I think what if LeBron actually no I'm not gonna put that out there but I think it's a good thing
Starting point is 00:20:48 I feel I'm really loving all the Clipper fans right now I really feel for you guys who for a while really thought they thought yo man
Starting point is 00:20:56 it's Clippers now the Lakers yeah when they had the big three Chris Paul and Blake Griffin DeAndre
Starting point is 00:21:04 they were people were like yeah man it's Clippers City now Clippers Town now and man how quickly things change where's DeAndre
Starting point is 00:21:11 where'd he go Dallas unless he changed his mind again but also shout out to Savannah James too for right I have a feeling
Starting point is 00:21:18 I think we owe her a debt of gratitude too for the decision for LeBron coming out here because it's not necessarily the best basketball situation. Like there's not really a second person on the team who's crazy talented as of yet.
Starting point is 00:21:32 No. So it's, it does seem like it was more of a lifestyle decision and he obviously has his production company out here. They were actually on NPR this morning. They were listing off like upcoming projects that he has. And I was like ready for them to just be all like just trash ideas, you know. But they were actually good.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Like he has a Muhammad Ali documentary in the works, which like there's not. Who would have thought to do a documentary on that guy? Right. But like there's not like the definitive one. I don't feel like, you know. I mean, Ali, the movie. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I mean, Will Smith basically channeling him. Yeah. So, I mean, it's the movie. Right, right. I mean, Will Smith basically channeling him. Yeah, so, I mean, it's going to be interesting. I kind of want them to load up now just so that Golden State has a challenger that is not Houston because Houston is boring as fuck. Just with their kind of, I don't know, James Harden's game is just very, bleh, straightforward. He's very good. He's very good. He's very good.
Starting point is 00:22:26 A lot of free throws and three-pointers. There's been lots of barbs shot our way. My favorite so far has been Ian Carmel, who has tweeted out, watching the Lakers get LeBron is like watching the 16-year-old in my super sweet 16 get a BMW. Yeah, it's true. Super producer Sophie Lichterman on the way up today, we got here at the same time we were walking up
Starting point is 00:22:52 and she was like, yeah, it's just like, finally. I'm so tired of being irrelevant. I was like, yeah, no, I know how. She was like, you have no idea. I was like, I know how that feels. Philly was pretty bad for a while. She was like, yeah, but we're used to being good. I was like, you guys are the worst.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Y'all are the worst. That has been the second part of it. We're already turning back to our trash. Nothing has changed yet. There's going to be a parade today at noon. The bandwagon has broken.
Starting point is 00:23:24 The Staples Center. Did you see the Staples Center the bandwagon has broken already the Staples Center did you see the Staples Center celebration where the dude brought out the baby powder and started clapping and then like 20 fans got in
Starting point is 00:23:33 they were just dumping it in everyone's hands and they were doing the LeBron pregame we're insufferable especially the locals cause yeah cause Sophie's from out here
Starting point is 00:23:41 if you were all from out we're all out here like original LA people so we're probably the here, like original L.A. people. So we're probably the worst. Yeah. Because you can't really levy the bandwagon shit on us because, like, we just grew up spoiled. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:51 It's like New Yorkers who have the Yankees. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. That's, you know, sorry. It's showtime. All right. Let's go to a quick break and then we'll talk about Scorpion when we get back.
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Starting point is 00:27:13 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
Starting point is 00:27:32 She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese
Starting point is 00:27:53 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back and uh scorpion is out it dropped on friday uh we've had a couple days to listen i don't know if i've heard every track because i've had it on shuffle a little bit because i'm not crazy about the whole like splitting the rap with the r&b shit like that was going on yeah he has album one is all rap and album two is like more of his r&b i just opened spotify and i was like how many fucking songs seriously man and the sad part is like he still doesn't get the title as the most songs remember when chris brown came out with that anthology of music and i was like there's one i wasn't gonna listen to it because chris brown but two i really refuse to even be well, let me see what he's working when it's 50 songs.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Right, right. Yeah, I mean, it started off like it had my attention in the beginning, and then I slowly kind of like one song just sounded like the next one. But I think I need to really, it's going to take time off. My first reaction to it was I was like, all right. that really, it's going to take time off. My first reaction to it was, I was like, all right. It wasn't like, I wasn't fully like excited about it, but I also wasn't like, this is garbage.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I was just kind of like, it's a lot of songs and only a few are popping out to me right now. But like most Drake albums, it'll take someone else to play it a lot. And then I'll be like, wait, what's that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think there's a really good albums worth of good songs on here. And there's also a really good album's worth of good songs on here, and there's also a really terrible album worth of mediocre to bad songs,
Starting point is 00:29:30 and you just have to find the good ones and make that into a playlist, and that can be your Scorpion. But yeah, there are some songs on here I like a lot. It seems like he's sampling previous albums a little bit, like the vibe of it. Some of the songs feel like, if you're reading this, it's too late, and Take Care are my two favorite albums. And those are, there are songs that have that vibe.
Starting point is 00:29:55 They're not quite as good as my favorite songs on those albums, but they definitely have that vibe. There's a lot of R&B on this one. Yeah. I just like the hooks. I really miss Hook Drake.ke yeah i want to scream out i was running through it sick with my woes yeah yeah i was just thinking like the combination of like good production and like really re-single like re-single longable tracks it's been it hasn't
Starting point is 00:30:18 been it's been a while like maybe if you're reading this too late or nothing was the same like obviously views and more life had their moments, but like, it's been a while since I was like, Oh, this, this whole thing is tight and it's got, it's got everything you need.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Yeah. Well, also I feel like this was a, just, we've had such a long run of super cohesive albums, like, you know, especially like,
Starting point is 00:30:38 you know, save for really, yeah. Even though I feel like it's cohesive in itself, it's just as a whole, it's just not his best work in my opinion. you have something like daytona kids see ghost which was a perfect album and even something like redemption uh j-rock was pretty like put together so to have something that seems like all over the place because this does feel like all over the
Starting point is 00:31:00 place this feels like when i looked at it i accidentally saved the spotify playlist instead of the album and i looked and i was like yeah no this is what it sounds like it feels like a drake playlist because it's jumping around and i feel like it didn't know the voice it wanted right because i especially like that song what's that song with jay-z uh talk talk oh yeah yeah it's the the jay-z one i don't know the jay-z one yeah i actually really like that one but that tonally seems like a whole different album and i think that tonally was what people were expecting with this album because i feel like he came so hard on like duppy freestyle right like oh this next album is going to be like a hard album it's gonna be hard drake
Starting point is 00:31:39 and he's like no it's just kind of the same well he is coming coming back from like getting owned by pusha t and like there's like he has like some cool lines like he's figured out cool ways to talk about the fact the like acknowledge the child that he was hiding yeah uh at one point he says only thing that's dead are these beats after i rhyme on them like or something about something about deadbeat and like that he kills beats while rhyming on them. But it's like, okay. And he wasn't hiding his kid from the world. He was hiding the world from his kid. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:32:11 It's like a cool way to say that. But it's also like, eh. There's also some weird shit where it's just like, I don't know. He's still struggling with that and dealing with all that shit. Yeah. We'll see. And it seemed like there were moments where he was kind of alluding to the fact that like you know i i would have really clapped back on pusha t but uh you know yeah sort of restrained myself we have a working theory of what that clap back was going to be here
Starting point is 00:32:33 at the daily zeitgeist but we're we're not going it would have been a radioactive take right right we're not going public with it because we do not want to anger jay prince ourselves no we're just gonna especially when there's there's so many videos on YouTube of many people telling their J Prince stories. And you're like, the best was the guy who prank called J Prince. Yeah. And part of his rap, he was doing a comedy album of prank calls. And he called J Prince like, man, this album's whack.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Y'all rap a lot, ain't shit anymore. And he's like, I'm at this radio station. And he just, apparently J Prince was like, where are you at? I'm coming to you right now. And the guy like was just shooketh for the rest of his life. He left Houston right away. It was Roy Wood Jr. They like flew him into town to do this prank album.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And the first call was to J Prince to like prank J Prince. And J Prince just like wasn't taking the joke. And then they called him back. They were like, hey, man, the DJ here, who you know, said we were just going to do this for fun. He was like, oh, you're with him? Then I know where you are. And told his driver to turn around, and he left town.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Wow. And he's such a calm guy. Who knows what those calm eyes have seen? Scary. All right, guys, let's get into the Culture Wars. So Michael Cohen is out here switching sides. Talk to George Stephanopoulos. I did not look at the interview, Miles.
Starting point is 00:33:54 You watched some? I read through it. He's definitely shifting his tone a little bit. He pulled some choice quotes. The biggest thing was that he's essentially saying, I'm not not loyal to Trump was sort of the thesis of this entire thing. He says, my wife, my daughter and my son have my first loyalty and always will. I put my family and country first. So, yes, that should be a bit of a signal to Donald Trump, because clearly Michael Cohen has many receipts.
Starting point is 00:34:23 to Donald Trump because clearly Michael Cohen has many receipts. And, you know, when they like, you know, Stephanopoulos over the time, like he was he was noting that he sort of reiterated this whole thing of like, I'm loyal to my family or not to Trump, like in a few different ways throughout the interview. There's another part where Stephanopoulos notes, when I asked Cohen how he might respond if the president or his legal team come after him to try and discredit him and the work he did for Mr. Trump over the last decade, which they will already begin starting to do already. He sat up straight. His voice gained strength.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I will not be a punching bag as part of anyone's defense strategy, he said emphatically. I am not a villain of this story and I will not allow others to try to depict me that way. So it's like the kid, he might stand up to the bully, but we'll see. And even like kind of was like saying that, you know, defending the Mueller investigation, you know, so he hasn't really been, he hasn't been charged with anything formally yet. Yeah. But clearly the tone is shifting before where he was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:16 he said, I'll take a bullet for Donald Trump. Yeah. And now, I don't know. The things I do to you will be disgusting. Yeah. Now he's like, ooh, I got a wife and kids, man. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, it's one thing to talk with your chest out like that.
Starting point is 00:35:28 And then I think as things get real, he's starting to say, like, you know, even when they ask, oh, well, will you talk a little bit more about the Stormy Daniels thing? He's like, I would love to. But against my legal counsel says, I shouldn't right now, but that time will come. I don't like the term witch hunt. You know, it's a little strong. Yeah. So that's just like, ooh, I do not like to hear that if I'm Trump. From that quote, that's what he says.
Starting point is 00:35:49 And then he says, quote, as an American, I repudiate Russia's or any other foreign government's attempt to interfere or meddle in our democratic process. And I would call on all Americans to do the same. Oh, so, you know, I don't know what he he may know something about that Trump Tower meeting. Yeah. So I don't know if he's like he's clearly trying to position himself as like, hey, I just got caught up in some bullshit. Yeah. You know, I'm not the bad guy here. I'm just a dude who was in the way.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Well, this will be telling if the CIA still gets down like they did in the 60s and 50s, then Cohen will get into a car accident in the not too distant. He'll be the second after the new Mexican president. So we'll, we'll see uh fox did an interview with uh his highness himself uh president trump sat down with maria bartiromo uh and i guess you could call it uh an interview it was pretty i mean i guess like she said the word i agree too often for it to be anything but like a hype man it was literally you know it would just be real underhanders like what about like there was no pushing back on like real issues like that like if the tax cuts are working or if these tariffs are damaging everything was sort of like yeah for sure for sure basically so you know we'll play a little montage of the main points.
Starting point is 00:37:07 They talk about rush collusion. They talk about the tax cuts, the stock market, you know, the economy in general on tariffs. Those are all things that you could ask some pretty hard hitting questions about. But again, this is clearly, you know, propaganda.com. So they just, I mean, just listen to their responses. It's really not about the answers It's just about how just uh-huh cool dude like how this is a non interview. It's just like someone just Helping Trump. Yeah, leave his own bullshit. There's no collusion with me. There's no Russia with me. There's no nothing
Starting point is 00:37:39 It's a it's honestly, it's a disgrace You know, they found nothing nobody has found anything I know. I think ultimately the tax cuts as they kick in and they're kicking in where you see the kind of hundreds of billions of dollars brought back into the country already. I think ultimately that's going to be something really special. And you're seeing the result right now. I agree with you because under President Obama, the Federal Registry pages were up to ninety
Starting point is 00:38:01 seven thousand pages. And I will tell you that you don't know about this, but every country is calling every day saying, let's make a deal. Let's make a deal. It's going to all work out. And the markets feel like they're trusting you at this point. I think they trust me and the farmers trust me. They do. I had a great company, the head of a great company come up to me. He's very seriously affected by the tariffs. He said, Mr. President, it's not good for me right now. Ultimately, it is. But you're doing the right thing on tariffs. He said, Mr. President, it's not good for me right now. Ultimately, it is. But you're doing the right thing on tariffs. Well, you're doing the right thing on pushing
Starting point is 00:38:28 back on China as well. Most people understand that they've been stealing from us for decades. Let's bring up this other thing you're right about. Hey, you're right about everything. Don't forget this other thing, because I feel like you're not kind enough to yourself, President Trump. Honestly, don't stress yourself out. Also, good job on lebron going to the lakers this is yeah that is it's fox you know what i mean and it's just becoming more and more it's like don't like why are we even calling it news it's not and it's there's nothing new about this i did have sort of a moment of realization last week after the mass shooting at the newspaper. We talked on Friday about how on Sean Hannity's radio show, he blamed Maxine
Starting point is 00:39:13 Waters for, you know, the rhetoric, the fact that she was telling people to protest and, you know, get in people's faces. He was like, I mean, you know, from that to this shooting, I'm not saying it caused it. But I mean, and then would say it like next to each other, right, time after time to the point that it was like, very clear, the implication was that he was saying that Maxine Waters telling people to protest fucking Trump officials in public was Trump officials in public was causing this mass shooting. So I went on CNN.com and their article on this, the headline was Hannity denies tying Maxine Waters rhetoric to shooting. So which then you click on it. It's just quote after quote from Hannity blaming Maxine Waters for the shooting. But the headline they use- He denies it.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Is that he denies it. And it's like, yeah, he denies it, but that's not the noteworthy thing that he denies it. The noteworthy thing is that he did it in the first place and that you have quotes of him doing it. But this kind of made me, it kind of put things into perspective for me that just the left has no Fox News equivalent. The way way it's been set up by, you know, the right and Trump. And therefore, I think the mainstream media has even adopted this, is that Fox News is to the right and CNN is to the left. And that's not true. CNN aspires to journalism. They're not great at their job all the time, as that headline suggests, like they're missing the big point. But I think they're reacting sometimes to, you know, disagreeing with the president and sometimes
Starting point is 00:40:50 to being afraid that Fox News is going to call them left wing. Yeah. But what is the left version of Fox News? Because if you think about it, if if we're comparing them, Fox is just a center for misinformation. Right. So do we. But I don't think we necessarily need something that's to the left that misinforms people. You know what I mean? It's just that people are aggressively pursuing the truth because that's where I'm kind of, you know, I don't know. What is the version? I don't know what the answer is, but I'm just trying to describe the system as I see it. And the way I see it is that you have Fox to the right that is just putting forth all this misinformation. And then the entire mainstream media is trying to react to that misinformation.
Starting point is 00:41:35 And that pushes them rightward. But because Fox exists, they are always going to be comparatively to the left. And so when I put that, like I just tweeted about this and was like, look at this article. It's insane. Like the mainstream media doesn't have a left leaning, you know, mainstream media outlet. People were like, what are you talking about? CNN and New York Times, all those places are left and they are left compared to Fox News. Fox News has like created the Overton window in which that whole spectrum is being defined.
Starting point is 00:42:09 And so, yes, they look left compared to Fox News. But if you compare our mainstream media to any other country in the world, it's to the right. Right. And also like if CNN, they're doing shit like when administration officials are lying, they're like, oh, well, we have this quote right now. Let's pull that and confront you with the evidence of your deception. And they're like, oh, and people are like, see, why are they attacking them? It's like what they're trying to do is not allow people to just be so deceptive in such an aggressive way like they are so i guess yeah to the left of propaganda is truth or like trying to have some semblance of of of like reality yeah that's what i was basically
Starting point is 00:42:54 it was gonna say is just that yeah if we take fox news at what they're claiming to be then yeah we definitely don't have a left version of that. But because Fox News is constantly lying and there's like at least a modicum of journalistic integrity in all these places, they appear left because they're like, well, no, that's just a lie. And there's no slant to it. It's just facts. But because we now live in an age where anything opposing what's being said by the right, whether it be true or not. Equals left. Equals a left slant. But you're right because I think if there truly was a left version of what Fox News pretends to be, you'd have someone following up on these questions. Because I do get frustrated watching like CNN or MSNBC when they point out a lie and just let it lie. Just let it go.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Yeah. They don't put it in the context of the story. They just leave it. Cause I would say like MSNBC is definitely of all the major ones. They're definitely the most like left aligned, but still they still, there's people like Andrea Mitchell was pretty moderate and we'll still kind of like,
Starting point is 00:43:57 you know, report things in a way that's still kind of favorable to, to Republicans or the conservative movement or whatever. But yeah, I mean, I'm just like so this I was just imagining because the morning after the mass shooting Breitbart, their headline was all about how the left was trying to blame Trump for this shooting that happened at the newsroom, which there wasn't actually good evidence. There were like some people on Twitter who were like saying, you know because Trump was like, the media is the worst, hate the media. And at his rallies, people were
Starting point is 00:44:30 suggesting violence towards the media. That's a sort of one-to-one comparison, but nobody was outright saying it is Trump's fault for doing this. But Breitbart was drawing that comparison because they are a right-wing ideological outlet and they wanted to make that case. And so they made it. Whereas CNN, who's supposed to be leftist, had Hannity in quotes saying that it was a left-wing person who caused this shooting and they didn't do anything with it. If that had been on the right, that would have been the number one story on Drudge. It would have been the number one story on Fox.
Starting point is 00:45:04 If you had the equivalent thing happening on the other side. But because the left doesn't have that, that story just never gets picked up. But had it been like if both sides are just completely even, when someone slips up and does something stupid like that on the left, it's going to get picked up and blown up and made into a running narrative on the right. Whereas when somebody on the right does something like that, the left just does nothing with it. Yeah. So you just get this unbalanced sort of mainstream media. Well, yeah, it's the fear of appearing biased when the bias is just purely like self-created
Starting point is 00:45:40 on the right to just to defend themselves from their own fuckery, basically. Right. Exactly. Whatever, man. I just got back from Europe, man. This is all too heavy for me, you know? Yeah. created on the right to just to defend themselves from their own fuckery basically right exactly whatever man i just got back from europe man this is heavy for me you know yeah how was that uh how was that hippie town that you went to oh christiania yeah oh let me tell you have you ever been to a grateful dead concert i have not or a low budget reggae show i have been to a low budget festival in vermont okay well it it felt like that in there. I mean, you know, it's cool.
Starting point is 00:46:09 They're allowed to do their thing and sell hash and cannabis freely in the center. But let me tell you, it's not that Oscar Mayer. It's not that fire in there. It's not that Oscar Mayer fire. Definitely not that Oscar Mayer in there because, you know, your boy sampled the the product yeah and it did not move the needle okay so so the weed in california essentially is way more i think i think yeah when you've been blended since 15 it's hard to like no it's hard to compare yeah my uh
Starting point is 00:46:37 my overton window even the hash yeah it's an overton you've been smoking cancer medicine since you were like 12 so uh yeah so uh christianity or whatever it's like a tiny nation right it's like a privately incorporated enclave yeah and they you know they're allowed to to do their thing it is legal no hard drug so they're really adamant about that and i think you know yeah i it's it was fine it was like one of those things like as a kid i remember hearing about from people's older brothers or sisters who have gone to europe and they're like yo this is spot in copenhagen you could just be smoking up and you're like wow and that sounds cool in 2002 yeah cut to now with all the legalization issue you're like well well that's what was funny is e3 that was a few weeks ago
Starting point is 00:47:25 during e3 you just constantly smelled weed from around because all these people from out of state were coming to california and they're like oh shit yeah it's so funny yeah it was so funny because there was part of me that wanted to be like yo chill because the cops will press you but then i was like oh no you guys are all like white dudes and dockers y'all straight y'all are super duper straight LA is the new Amsterdam right? Is that what they say?
Starting point is 00:47:54 I don't know. I guess Denver is the new Amsterdam. I mean all these cities that have legalized it now don't criminalize it I guess you can't buy mushrooms in the 7-Eleven so it's not necessarily where Amsterdam was about 10 years ago. All right, we're going to take another quick break, and we'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:48:17 I'm Carrie Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:48:39 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture.
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Starting point is 00:51:34 or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back and uh so a happy story to talk about in our final act of the day is 12 boys and their soccer coach went into a cave which is an activity people do sometimes are you pitching a film to me right now? I am not, believe it or not. This is an elevator pitch for a thriller. And so one of them wanders off and sees himself inside the cave and has to fight himself while blindfolded. No, but the boys range 11 to 16 years old and the cave flooded while they were in there.
Starting point is 00:52:20 And people just assumed, well, they were gone. But it became this big thing where you know some people are speculating they might still be alive in there and we can't know because it would have flooded slowly enough for them to like get away from the water and but it sounded like i don't know like it was a wrap for them and we just found out that they are all alive in there all of them yeah All 12 boys and their soccer coach. Wait, how long were they trapped in the cave? Yeah. They were in there for
Starting point is 00:52:49 nine days, I think. What? How? Wait, I'm sorry. I don't know anything that's going on. Turns out there was a 13th kid who they ate. Ah, yes. He's called the 13th warrior. Right. The gully. They ate the gully. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:05 I mean- Do you know how they survived or anything like that? Probably, like I'm assuming it was fresh water that it flooded with. Oh, okay. Yeah. They sent Navy SEALs over there. They sent like US, China, Australia, the UK, all sent people over there. And the kids are still in there, but they were discovered alive and they're just figuring
Starting point is 00:53:23 out, like they're sending a doctor and nurses and people with food in. Oh, so they were found, so these rescue teams located them. Yeah. Could you imagine being the dude? You're just diving down there, and then you enter some weird compartment, and all 12 of the kids are just sitting there? Yeah. And you're like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Oh, hey. You guys are alive sitting there yeah yeah and you're like oh shit oh hey you guys are alive yeah we thought you were dead oh so they got to figure out like if they're gonna move like equipment to like get them to scuba out or whatever oh because the water okay i got you wow yeah good i mean that's like the deadly issues like diving in caves because yeah that is my biggest fucking fear like when people want to go on, if I've ever been on a beach type, well, I've never really been on a real beach vacation where there was underground like cave swimming. But whenever I see people like, yeah, we got to swim in these caves,
Starting point is 00:54:15 I'm like, nope. Yeah, no. My biggest fear is being caught in one of those caves. There was some show I was doing where a guy told a story about like going through a a cave falling through a hole and he was swimming around trying to find his way up and he said at first he was swimming i think he was swimming to the top but he swam to the bottom of it swam up barely made it in time to uh get some air then he's like swimming around and he said like when he got out of the cave and made it out he found out like
Starting point is 00:54:45 six to eight hours have passed and i was like that sounds like a nightmare not me yeah keep me away from the caves yeah like i i remember looking up like what the deepest people have been in caves like the deepest anyone's explored in a cave and it's like not very deep at all it's just people like it's deadly as fuck like you can't go too deep or else you'll get you'll get caught um yeah so i don't recommend that as a hobby but thank god those uh those kids well i bought a bunch of spelunking gear that i have to return now uh all right let's get some World Cup date from the man. Oh, shit. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. Let me tell you about the World Cup, guys.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I was lucky enough to be out in Europe and experience some games with the people of Europe. Is it a bigger deal over there than here? A little bit, yeah. No way. Apparently, a lot of people take it seriously in Europe, it turns out, even though a few Danes were asking me, they're hey man what do you think the u.s's chances are in the world cup and i was like bruh are you just trying to do the like jimmy kimmel thing to me and they're like yes i literally said that i'm like are you talking about that jimmy kimmel thing they're like oh you've seen the video i'm like yeah also motherfucker you man i'm not dumb as fuck
Starting point is 00:56:03 i'm not out here being like yeah us number one i'm like they fucking, also, motherfucker. Fuck you, man. I'm not dumb as fuck. I'm not out here being like, yeah, you was number one. I'm like, they fucking suck. They should be shaming themselves. Juergen Klinsmann should have never got the boot. Anyway. By the way, we're recording this during the Japan match. During the Japan match. I am on radio silence. I've had to throw my phone.
Starting point is 00:56:17 I put it on airplane mode. Oh, wow. Because this is a very big match. They are playing Belgium, which is one of the best teams on paper. I think they're ranked third. The second most stacked team. Yeah team yeah i mean in terms of on paper their squad thick thickest thieves and you're a huge japan fan turns out i like a little bit of japan yes uh as i am a japanese person uh but yes i'm really looking forward to that so not like i can say no spoilers whatever by the time this is out that's why we're not talking about that result. Yes, that result.
Starting point is 00:56:45 We don't know what's going on. But we can talk about this. Mexico is out. Brazil really got it together late in the game. And, you know, in the second half, got a couple goals. Can I raise my hand and answer the question as someone who has lots of Mexican friends on Facebook who have repeatedly said this, and I tried looking it up, but I feel like this is hard. It's like a probably biased take, and maybe you, a fan of the sport, will be able to.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Multiple people have posted, Neymar Jr. is a bitch. Why? There was a moment where he acted like he got stepped on, and he looked like a soldier on D-Day who stepped on a landmine. He almost flipped over and was writhing in pain. I was like, come on, guy. Just get up. Get on with it. Is that against soccer etiquette?
Starting point is 00:57:33 Because that shit happens every match. Well, that's the problem. The gamesmanship part of it, which is trying to deceive the ref, has just become part and parcel of the match. I mean, Diego Maradona scored with a handball against England, like in the hand of God goal. The hand of God. Yeah, I mean, that's just kind of part of it.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I don't like it. Players like Messi, he doesn't go down easy because he's just so focused on scoring. He's like, I'm not really interested in getting a foul if I can keep it moving. So it really, it's the personality of the players. Some are just disgusting animals who cheat and roll around and simulate and dive. No, I'm not into that. It's not Das Boot.
Starting point is 00:58:10 We don't need to be doing all that diving. And is Neymar one of those? Neymar, he's a little precious. Yeah. And also, you know, I think also the referees will protect him. So I think he knows he'll get a little more favorable treatment. But yes, he was looking a little foolish, like rolling around and was like trying to be like, look at the replay of somebody.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And it wasn't anything. But yes, so Mexico is out. I was really pulling for Mexico. I was hoping they could pull something off. They really, man, they had a good tournament, at least with that win against Germany. And it was great to see them sort of like do a 180 when South Korea kept them in by beating Germany.
Starting point is 00:58:44 And then I don't know if you saw that clip of uh the south korean guy in mexico city who was like put on the people's shoulders in mexico and like being paraded around like a national hero amazing moment that's what football do to you um but yeah i guess other news uh france looks really good kilian umbappe looks like the fucking truth maybe i don't want to get ahead of myself. This 19-year-old man is, I mean, he is so fast. He's so fast. Sounds like he should have been playing for Nigeria based on that name.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Yeah. I'm going to go check that fool. I actually think, I forget. Hold on. I made a sick dad joke yesterday where I said he was named after the Hanson song. Yeah, we've been saying that. In an Mbappe gun. Yes, but he is actually half Cameroonian.
Starting point is 00:59:28 That's close enough to Nigerian. Get your ass in a green jersey. I guess for the next World Cup. Unfortunately, the kits look better than the team this year for Nigeria. But we can commiserate later. So yeah, it was really nice to see him come out because, you know, it's been 20 years since France won, but they're figuring themselves out. They look pretty good in that game against Argentina.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Even if you don't care, if you watch the replay of it, it's one of the more entertaining matches of this tournament. What else happened? Oh, Russia eked out a win over Spain. The shit went the full 90 minutes, then extra time, then to penalties. Both games yesterday did that. Yeah, yeah. The Croatia-Denmark game, too.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Denmark was a little unlucky considering Kasper Schmeichel went out of his mind saving penalties. So I feel a little bad for them. I feel a little bad for them. I feel for them. I have a feeling this heroic underdog tale of Russia coming in as the 70th out of 70 teams, just coming out of nowhere to now make it to the Elite Eight, as we call it in the NCAA tournament. I don't know what the fuck you guys call it in the World Cup. It's called the quarterfinals.
Starting point is 01:00:41 The quarter. The quarters that this is going to be Icarus 2. I think we're going to see a great sequel to Icarus. Oh, you're saying they'd be doping? Dope boys, dope boys. You were telling me earlier, I've had that feeling just since they came out of nowhere and people started doing analysis and they were like, oh, they've run the furthest of any team in the entire World Cup.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Like their first two games out of like the first couple games that each team had were one and two of like how far people had run. And they're just like still completely unexhausted at the end of the games. And you were saying that there is a history of like blood doping, right? And you were saying that there is a history of like blood doping, right? Yeah, teams, you know, whether it's like other substances. Yeah, like doping is definitely happens in soccer. I mean, Maradona was on ephedrine in the 94 World Cup. It's like trying to make all kinds of excuses.
Starting point is 01:01:40 And a lot of players have been caught over the years with really lame excuses. Like, you know, my wife, that was like her diet supplement I took or whatever. lame excuses like you know my wife uh that was like her diet supplement i took or whatever yeah so you know when you look at the numbers they're definitely there yeah doping does exist in the sport some will swear up and down that it's not a huge problem but you know it it's very unlikely that uh every player in this world cup is clean just from a statistical you know from a math-based for people who haven't seen icarus it's the story of like a uh basically a steroid technician for the russian government who explains how when russia had the winter olympics a couple years ago he was basically ordered by putin to just dope the fuck out of their athletes and they performed better than anybody expected and it was because they were completely on steroids and Putin like was like this is our Olympics it's not just in Russia we are going to win the most medals and like figure out how to do it and then they you know designed all these like trap doors and shit and walls so
Starting point is 01:02:43 that they could like get people's pee tests out. And I would be surprised if that wasn't happening right now. Yeah, well, it's also that Russia team, not the youngest. No. You look at them, there were some grizzled motherfuckers out there. I still can't believe Yuri Zhirkov is playing. There are certain players in there that I'm like, whoa, y'all really are still in it?
Starting point is 01:03:04 You don't get more endurance as you age, in my experience. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, that seems to be the case. Yeah, I mean, they're not technically the oldest team in terms of average age, but yeah, they're definitely up there. Like, I think the oldest is Panama. But yeah, they got an old team. So yeah, maybe, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:23 I don't know what's going on. I mean, also Spain looked like not that great either so it's hard to know like you know there is that sort of buzz that uh host countries do get during world cups that can kind of take them further distances and maybe in this case that buzz is doping but i don't know so yeah might just be a 12 year old's blood running through their veins. Yeah, talk to Peter Thiel about that. Yeah, exactly. You were in an English pub during an England World Cup game, right? No, I watched that with a nice family, actually.
Starting point is 01:03:58 I got a very intimate experience where they had a nice barbecue. How wholesome. It was very wholesome, but the screams were still intense nonetheless. What were they barbecuing? Just like blood pudding? Yeah, just barbecuing blood. That's right. They take blood, put it in a pot,
Starting point is 01:04:12 put that on the grill, and then a little bit of pepper, and then that's it. No, just like burgers, some links, some hot dogs. So in your honor. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. In my honor.
Starting point is 01:04:24 We're having an America party. Yeah, and I was like, cool, yeah that's what i was like in my honor we're having an america party yeah and i was like cool yeah uh you know it was fun and then i watched the denmark match uh in copenhagen at this one pub spot uh called bruise that was pretty cool and it's just fun to watch like when you watch even though the match wasn't a consequential one like both teams are going to advance it was fun to to catch the vibe the spirit of the people uh and did i do like gang catch you over there did you yo there were a lot of people who hit me up and i was i i was almost gonna actually hang out with uh guest kaiti kavinga who was out there and we were gonna link uh at my dad's art show uh but she wasn't able to make it because she had a personal business to tend to but uh yeah other than that uh it was a good time i don't want to
Starting point is 01:05:03 you know say too much okay but uh yeah you than that uh it was a good time i don't want to you know say too much okay but uh yeah you should have followed my instagram stories and if you didn't sorry so that's on you i do like the american obsession over there like when i was over there and i went to a pub which is tight jack if you do go over because you can bring your kids to the pub oh yeah yeah that's like it's a family thing so like so yeah so we had naomi i had my brews we're good but they had like it was right before new year's eve and their new year's eve party was like frat night and then they're like we'd be drinking out of red cups yeah they love that their obsession with our red cups is so funny well yeah because if you look in all film and tv
Starting point is 01:05:44 that's like every party scene has that. And I think we talked about, I think it was when Aisling B was on. Yeah. We were talking about that sort of myth from their perspective in Europe, because all of our films depict parties with these red cups. When really that's probably an art department thing. Yeah. Because they don't have to keep filling cups up. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:00 And you don't know what's in there. Yeah. And also it's not like branded, so you don't have to like get cans that just say beer on them. Yeah, she walked into the Zeitgang offices and we were drinking out of coffee mugs. She was like, why aren't you drinking coffee out of red cups? Yeah, we're the red solo cups. Where's the beer pong?
Starting point is 01:06:17 Yeah, and also just quick shout out to Mexico for electing their first left-wing leader in like 30 years, the first populist of the people leader in a long time. The whole letting the capitalist corporatocracy run the country has not worked out so well for them. It doesn't seem like in the past- Or here. Yeah. Well, we'll see what happens in our next election. But it seems like they kind of had had enough. And so they elected a left wing populist.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And it seems like it was maybe one of their most on the up and up elections. And he won in a landslide. So, you know, shout out to them. That's that's some good consolation. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to take too much spotlight from this, but I do want to talk about what we think because I don't know if you touched on it Friday. But there's been this big accusation now that Alexandria Osorio-Roscoe won that the left is split.
Starting point is 01:07:20 And it seems to be coming from, one, the right, and two, like, older, moderate Democrats. Where it's like, you're not letting us just try the same bullshit. We're split. And it's like, no. It's called it's moving in a direction and you're fixed. Exactly. You're in a fixed position. Like, it's been so weird to see that that conversation is going.
Starting point is 01:07:40 And it's almost annoying to know how much is going on that moderate left has been focusing on this argument for so long it's like you took an l move on like this just goes to show that the same thing that you're accusing like oh people went and voted for jill stein and it's in you and you're just throwing a tantrum it's like you're doing the same thing right here you a moderate did not win a district and you're just trying to to derail her whole shit because she's too- On the right, too. I feel like Hannity- Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Wasn't he talking? He's like, let me tell you about how socialism won't work. Let me tell you why Medicare for All is a bad idea. Yeah, did you see the list that he posted that nothing seemed negative, but he posted it as a negative? He was like, let's take a look at this young woman's policy positions. And it was like universal health care, universal basic income. Keeping families together. Keeping families together.
Starting point is 01:08:30 I mean. All these just baseline very positive things that you'd have to have blinders on to be like, oh, well, that's not good. I disagree with that. It was all just super positive stuff that if you were coming clean without an ideological bent, you would... You would look at that and be like, yes, go on. Right. But in his view, it was like he was tipping the deck against her. It could have a very disruptive energy to it when you start appealing to people at that
Starting point is 01:08:58 level without just using the partisan hooks that people are used to. Well, I think it's so funny because I feel like it's the part where, you know, the right doesn't even have to show their work for their deception anymore. They can just show you like, this is what they want, but it's impossible. So why bother, right? Right. Like that is. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Y'all are fine going broke trying to live. Yeah. Okay. Like that is the right's whole argument is like, why bother? And also my biggest thing is that the surprise that the left disagrees and it's like of course like and i meant to tweet this out but it's it was too hard to like parse this in written word but my general idea with this is like we're on the left of course we're going to disagree there's a lot of nuance in trying to figure out how to fix the world how
Starting point is 01:09:40 to make things right right we all have different drives we all have different foundations of what we think is right but we all kind of have the same general idea yeah and that's why it's going to be split whereas the the the right is unified on hate and fear and you don't there's no nuance in that it's very simple yeah and it can apply for any type of hate or feel you you can be someone who's just homophobic and the same rhetoric that they're using for racists will work for you because you're like yeah the others they're weird they're crazy so that's why yes we're gonna disagree and it's not a bad thing if this person on the left who you don't all the way agree with makes it into senate because it's like that's still a left seat in senate right it's the establishment man. Yeah. Having trouble just realizing that the old shit ain't working.
Starting point is 01:10:28 The old hits, people aren't dancing to them anymore. Yeah. I mean, I have seen the details that have given me some taking the victory with a couple grains of salt are how low the participation was. This was essentially a victory defined by lack of participation for the person she was running against. Like, just people didn't show up to vote. And, you know, she did turn people out.
Starting point is 01:10:52 And I think that more than anything, we should take it as like, this is a very talented person. Yeah. Like, let's look at this generation of people. Even Glenn Beck shouted her out. Women and people of color. this generation of people. Even Glenn Beck shouted her out. Women and people of color. And, you know, like, let's be a little bit more inclusive when we're looking at political
Starting point is 01:11:10 talent and not just, you know, we've talked before on the show how- Who's friendly with the banks? Right. The Democratic Party, when they're analyzing whether a candidate is viable, they just go through your phone and add up the amount of money you have in your phone list like for donors potentially yeah yeah you can raise yeah right so and she didn't raise any money she just got people excited yeah her whole thing was like i want to i want to meet people where they're at right and left or right i'm going to talk to them engage them and like that's actual
Starting point is 01:11:40 civil discourse yeah i mean of like hi we may you may already be on some maga shit but i will talk to you and let me tell you where I'm coming from. And probably by the end, you can probably send me like, well, look, I don't fully agree with you, but it sounds like you got good ideas.
Starting point is 01:11:51 That's why it was really interesting to me that Glenn Beck was sort of like, Hey, I respect her. You know, like, even though I don't, I totally disagree with her, like policy points.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Like they're like, this person is really trying to run like an upstanding campaign and talk to people or whatever. So that was, yeah, that's wild. I've always said glenn beck's a man of the people uh all right iffy it has been a pleasure having you man as always where can people find you follow you and what is a tweet that you've been enjoying oh uh so I think where you can find me is if you want to wait. I have why in W.A.D. I.W.E. on Twitter and Instagram.
Starting point is 01:12:29 If these on Twitch, so many of the Zeit gang have been coming through. I've been trying to really bless them by like getting like a good fortnight run with like you or someone from Culture Kings, because a lot of the Zeit gang came out. or someone from Culture Kings because a lot of the Zyte gang came out. And, you know, your boy went in that tournament, walked away with like about $1,700 in the tournament, the PUBG tournament we were talking about. You know, didn't quite totally rank, but I got some cash in my pocket. We actually had that on in the background. That was a very, yeah, one of our editors, Daniel Goodman.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Yeah. You know, he's a Twitch fan, fan one of our editors, Daniel Goodman. Yeah. He's a Twitch fan, fan of watching Ify play video games, and we just had that on in the background all day, watching Ify light people up. Yeah, it was a fun time. I got killed by Deadmau5. Oh, for real? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Okay. He pinched me pretty good. I was legitimately salty about, like, I was in a room, and he had his partner open the door so i looked and he came through the other door and just popped me wow like some straight tactical stuff with that drop yeah so uh he dropped me what'd you buy with that 1700 well i'm still waiting for it to get and it's split so i get about 875 okay what are you buying with that 875 probably some sneakers. Right away?
Starting point is 01:13:45 Really? Yeah, yeah. Just in and out. Boom. Just those honcho jacks. Don't save. No. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:13:51 Give some, get Naomi some sneakers too. Oh yeah, your daughter has the meanest sneaker. I know. Seriously. Yeah, can my son
Starting point is 01:13:58 inherit some of those? Yeah, yeah. She actually grew out some of her sneakers. I know, that's the problem with kids' sneakers is they grow out of them
Starting point is 01:14:03 in like a week. You're like, oh man. Wrap them in newspaper. Do you have a tweet that you want to share with oh yeah the tweet i want to share with the world it's a gift tweet so i have to describe the gift but i'm gonna describe the gift first and then say what it said but it was amazing new segment yeah yeah describing gifts yeah so it's pretty much like lavar ball marching into uh one of the sports shows they're usually on and he says uh he goes did i say meniscus i mean let's have some brisket referring to lavar shit talking the uh to lebron right and him walking it back yeah and uh i think
Starting point is 01:14:42 this story the lebron going to la might just produce the best GIF response from Twitter. Like, the GIFs are just amazing nonstop. Miles, how about you? Oh, me? I guess I should say it's good to have you back, Miles. Yeah. It is. It's a pleasure.
Starting point is 01:14:58 I am so tired. I don't know what is going on. And I apologize to Earth. But if you're looking for me on social media, follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. And in terms of a tweet that I like, gonna have to disappoint y'all and say I haven't looked at Twitter in a little bit. But I will have my shit together tomorrow. Okay. but I will have my shit together tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Okay. First, I want to say shout out also to super producer Anna Hosnier, who in Miles' absence had to do double the bookage in booking this show, booking the co-host and the guest, and she nailed it. I think everybody had a good week. And also the Ride Out songs, fire. Ride Out songs were fucking awesome. And you know what? I hear the Zeitgang.
Starting point is 01:15:43 We're going to have to mix it up she said no I don't know well at the end of the time she's like yep don't worry we got room we got room for everybody alright and for I'll do two tweets one we didn't get to describe the gift first so this is a picture
Starting point is 01:16:01 it is a picture of a large crowd of people in Chicago and it is from one Michael Schweitz, and it says Chicago's crowd size today was approximately six Trump inaugurations because Chicago and a bunch of cities had big turnout for resistance marches talking about reunite the families that were torn apart. Yeah, shout out to everybody who got out there. Yeah, seriously.
Starting point is 01:16:23 And that is getting no coverage, and we'll hopefully talk about it later on in the week. And then for my fun tweet from Random Wardell, literally, why was George Costanza getting so much pussy? I have always wondered that myself. You can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can follow us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:16:50 We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes! Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song that we ride out on. Miles, you're taking it back over. I'm taking it back. song that we ride out on miles you're taking it back over taking it back what are we riding out on this is interesting because when we were talking about maria uh bartiromo on fox super producer nick stump hit me with a very interesting fact about maria bartiromo
Starting point is 01:17:17 on fox is that joey ramone later in his life became obsessed with her as he was like investing more in the stock market and watching her on fox Business all the time to the point that he wrote a song called Maria Bartiromo that's literally about the hard-hitting investigative journalist from Fox Business who interviewed Trump and apparently cultivated some kind of a friendship and he like really wanted her to see him perform this song live, and she couldn't. And then I think Nick was saying, like, he shortly passed away after he, like, performed this song live. So this is just an interesting weird bit of history.
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