The Daily Zeitgeist - Scorpion To The Ball Bag, cErEaL fOr DiNnEr 03.06.24

Episode Date: March 6, 2024

In episode 1636, Jack and Miles are joined by hosts of Ridiculous Crime, Zaron Burnett & Elizabeth Dutton, to discuss… Trump Wants To Create A “Public Health Catastrophe” In Schools, Despite... That... Voters Pretty Chill About Trump Not Being A Dictator, Guy In Vegas Got Stung On The Ball Bag By A Scorpion... Scam Or No Scam? Kellogg’s “Cereal For Dinner” Strategy Is Blowing Up In Their Faces and more! Trump Wants To Create A “Public Health Catastrophe” In Schools Donald Trump's String of Gaffes Over Weekend Raises Eyebrows Trump confuses Obama for Biden again at Virginia rally speech Trump compares migrants to Hannibal Lecter in 'The Silence of the Lambs' 'Five-alarm fire': Trump's latest public schools threat causes experts to panic Despite That... Voters Pretty Chill About Trump Not Being A Dictator Guy In Vegas Got Stung On The Ball Bag By A Scorpion... Scam Or No Scam? Kellogg’s “Cereal For Dinner” Strategy Is Blowing Up In Their Faces Let them eat ‘cereal for dinner’ is just another example of America’s hatred of poor people Eggo unveils breakfast-themed rental home for National Pancake Day: Here’s how to book your free stay Kellogg to replace 1,400 strikers as deal is rejected GIVE CHICKEN THE NIGHT OFF: KELLOGG GIVES FAMILIES A CHANCE TO WIN $5,000 WHEN THEY ADD CEREAL TO THEIR DINNERTIME ROTATION Enjoy Kellogg’s® Cereal for Dinner Ad Kellogg’s CEO advises cereal for dinner. Nutritionists have other thoughts TikTok Uprising: Shoppers Begin Early Boycott of Kellogg's Over CEO's Remarks LISTEN: Spring Is Coming With A Strawberry In The Mouth by Caroline PolachekSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:25 get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 328 episode 3 of your daily zeitgeist day production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Wednesday, March 6th, 2024. Three, six mafia in the building. It's also National Dress Day, National Oreo Cookie Day, National White Chocolate Cheesecake, National Frozen Food Day, and National Dentist Day. So shout out all the dental people out there. Coming in and cleaning up for all the other days. Yeah. Man, we got Dentist Day. So shout out all the dental people out there. Coming in and cleaning up for all the other days. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:08 We got Oreo cookie day. National Dress Day. I think it's just like a day for like the finest gowns and dresses. Okay. Well, shout out the dress. There you go. Shout out the dress. Shout out the dress. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Crows are back. Back again. Eat these nuts. Be my friend. Crows are back. Crows are back. Crows are back. You know the rest.
Starting point is 00:02:34 That's courtesy of the great Christy Yamaguchi-Maine. I will say, so I am, thank you to the Zeitgang for the tip on the almonds. It is still working out. The crows are still putting out a little paper bowl of almonds every day, and they are leaving the plants in my yard alone. They are. Yo, that was Jennifer Morabito on Twitter. I remember liking that.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Shout out to you, Jennifer. You came through, Jennifer, with that advice of how to make friends with the crows. I got that from multiple people. Yeah. Oh, that was Jennifer Morabito on Twitter. I remember liking that. Shout out to you, Jennifer. You came through, Jennifer, with that advice of how to make friends with crows. I got that from multiple people. Yeah. Oh, you did? Oh, that was the one I saw on Twitter. Some people were suggesting that I could just train. Now I have a murder of crows at my disposal.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Yeah. So the one issue I'm having is I want to get credit for the nuts. And so I'll hear them them i'll run in the back and like fill up the bowl but then they'll have flown away right like you know when you like tip and when the person's back is to you like you put money in the tip jar when they're back to you and you wait just yeah there you go there you go yep there i usually give a audible just gonna leave that there just a little little something for you too little something for you in the tip jar in the old tip jar the one on top how close are you to wearing a suit of bird feet you know what i mean so like there's no
Starting point is 00:04:00 getting there there's no mistaking like who the source of these scrumptious vittles are. Yeah. I don't know. We had some friends over, and at one point, I was talking to someone. They were like, you seem distracted. And I was like, nah, I just, the crows flew by in the background. I was just checking out the crows, seeing what they were up to. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah. I want to be friends with a murder. Hey, speaking of friends, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! We're friends? Wow! A.K.A. We can snack upon the sweet teats with this box of spoons. Watching Oompa Loompa standing in a room.
Starting point is 00:04:44 We can stand beside the bed sheets. Signage by AI. Eat a jelly bean and watch the kids cry. Shout out to Cleo.Universe. You know, Cleo, you've been in the Discord with a lot of banger fucking AKAs. And I love to see new members of Zeitgang hop in the Discord and just deliver straight up volcanic rock heaters. And that was obviously to the tune of Santa Monica by Everclear.
Starting point is 00:05:11 So, yeah. Okay. I wasn't familiar with that one. You don't know that? It worked. The song goes... Oh, yeah. Yeah, you know that one.
Starting point is 00:05:22 That's that old school Everclear. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know that one. That's that old school. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Anyways, this is the podcast. I'm still living with your ghost. I think that's like the first one. That was Everclear?
Starting point is 00:05:35 Yeah, bro. Hey, Miles. We are thrilled to be joined in our third and fourth seats by the host of the very fun True Crime Podcast. and fourth seats by the host of the very fun true crime podcast ridiculous crime part of the ridiculous history universe of podcasts the show is true crime 99 murder free we like what about my what about my merds get that somewhere else bro minute for the merds you're so into murder hang out with them crows bro and yet they managed to make a very fun podcast without all of my bloody merds. Please welcome Zarin Burnett and Elizabeth Dudley!
Starting point is 00:06:11 Hey! Thank you for having us. Hey, fellas. Thank you for coming on. What's going on? I was thinking about your tipping conundrum, right? And this is why the mafia worked this out. You got to put the money in your hand and then
Starting point is 00:06:25 put it in their hand and they know you tipped them they figured this out they're like make sure they know right is that creepy if you do that like you got to be smooth about it though that's the other challenge you got to be real graceful they have that tip jar there for a reason this is an older solution to the problem well and you're in like a long line at the bakery and you've been holding the money in your hand. It gets clammy. Oh, yeah. And then by the time they ring you up, then, you know. Every bill I've ever held in my hand has been moist by the time it's handed over to somebody else.
Starting point is 00:06:59 It's so gross. Also, like initiating the handshake after the transaction is complete where they're like, all right, have a good day. You're like, yeah, man. No, no, get back here. Why is your hand hovering up toward my face? Why don't you touch it and find out? Something for you. I got something for you.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I'm surprising her for you. It seems to be dripping water. So, guys, for real, though, what's your problem with Merck? Come on. Because, okay, here's my thing. Yeah, Elizabeth, for real, though, what's your problem with Mert? Come on. Because, OK, here's my thing. Yeah, Elizabeth, take this one. The wonderful Ben Bolin and Noel Brown, they gave us this opportunity from the mothership of ridiculous history. And, you know, it's this ridiculous crime. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:38 And so we're talking about what are we going to what are we going to joke around about? And I can't I don't know. I had a problem with making light of like the last moment of someone's life or the worst day of their friends or family's lives. And there's really not a lot of true crime stuff out there that's just purely like the other, not murderous. I don't want to talk about dead ladies. I think there's a big cultural fixation on dead ladies. So it's easier to joke around. on dead ladies so yeah right it's it's easier to to joke around and yeah everything we talk about is like you know we're all basically one bad decision away from being on the show so like it's more relatable it's like i'm not one bad decision away from taking someone's life but i
Starting point is 00:08:17 am one bad decision from like being hauled off an airplane and when it lands you know because yeah caused a ruckus so So that's kind of where we got with the 99% murder free and people are into it. Yeah. They love the no dead ladies. I appreciate it. It's good for the vibe. What's the one person? When's that? What happens when that 1% creeps in? That's usually me. It's usually because I cover stories that involve cocaine, the mafia, Pablo Escobar. Murder creeps in from the edges. I can't help it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's no such thing as a cocaine story without somebody. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:48 There's no like murder-free trafficking. He named cocaine, a group that's associated with cocaine trafficking, and the world's biggest cocaine trafficker. Yeah, pretty much. Cocaine, the mob, and Pablo Escobar. So we got like kind of a coke-y vibe. I'm going to kill this cocaine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:07 No, I appreciate it. I also, I feel like you learn stuff. It's a great way to view history. It's a good history podcast. You know, a lot of history podcasts you're hearing about
Starting point is 00:09:17 senators and dukes and, you know, the people who are in positions of power who are always boring. way more street level. Yeah. Street level. Just like a people's history.
Starting point is 00:09:30 It's fun to tell these stories and then orient them in history. What else is happening at this time that kind of informs people's choices and the weird stuff that goes on. Yeah. It provides context of like, why would someone want to be trying to, you know, kidnap some guy off the streets of Chicago and take his testicles? You're like, well, you have to understand there was a whole scientific movement leading up to this decision. It was the Great Depression. All right. Well, we're thrilled to have you guys. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to check in with a couple of the stories that we're talking about. Donald Trump is planning to, he's floated a policy that experts, whatever that means,
Starting point is 00:10:14 say would create a public health catastrophe. So we'll talk about that and just generally how much people are letting in about what he's planning to do in a second term because it's he's said some wild shit are people hearing it not not really so we'll talk about that we will talk about a guy in las vegas getting stung on the ball sack by a scorpion which i this is a scam or no scam segment that I think was created specifically for you guys. I was just like, I saw it and I was just
Starting point is 00:10:50 so, I had my own feelings. I'm like, wait, this also works for our guests. This is so in our wheelhouse. Yeah, yeah. We love a little bit of testicular venom trauma. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about shrinkflation. We'll talk about the Kellogg CEO's pitch for cereal for dinner. And like I had assumed he was just like throwing that out there. And the second he said it, he was like, oh, that was a bad one. That was a bad look. But this is a policy like a full on campaign. full-on campaign there is there is an ad featuring tony the tiger that i could not wrap my head
Starting point is 00:11:27 around uh from kellogg's that just has him like burst into people's dining room and start chanting cereal for dinner cereal for dinner and then like the family starts chanting that too back at him it's like this weird like thought stopping thing i think it's all part of a plot to just make us more docile kellogg's did start with the culty vibes remember there's a guy out there in battle creek going don't masturbate eat some cornflakes i mean yeah he's always they've always had this energy yes and you know number one on the cult uh on the cult like how to start a cult. One of the things you learn is you deprive them, deprive your followers of protein. Oh, there you go. So they're more docile and pliable.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And cereal for dinner would be one way to do that. But yeah, but use water instead of milk. Don't even get that protein from milk. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, it's got to be like thin oat milk. You're like doing skim oat milk. Like, don't shake the oat milk. Just do the watery part up top.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Yeah, up top. Have you ever lived with anybody who put in something, like an alternative to milk or water for cereal? Like someone who put in orange juice or beer or anything horrendous? Oh, yeah. Wait, you knew somebody like that? Oh, yeah. Tomato juice was one yeah tomato juice was
Starting point is 00:12:45 one orange tomato another beer was the third i've known three different guys who all put cereal into different fluids you're like no were you those three different no no no in this case it was not me and then do they have any chance of parole or they're on death row no they're all currently locked up so we don't have to worry about them so okay right right right right, right. Yeah, you're trying to kidnap Jimi Hendrix. Yeah, yeah. I don't believe in the carceral system, but there's some things I'm like, those people are dangerous. Those people are dangerous. That's just not right-minded.
Starting point is 00:13:14 All right. But before we get to any of it, we do like to ask our guests, Zarin and Elizabeth, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Or what is one of the most recent things that you have screencapped that is revealing about who you are? Elizabeth, ladies first. Oh, thank you, sir. I was just looking. I was doing an image search yesterday, psychic horses. And that was for social media for the episode that dropped today from us.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And then I was looking at my search history and it's just a lot of like misspelled things or i i go to hit the space bar and i hit period instead so it's like you know brigatoni dot pasta dot recipe you know brigatoni yeah yeah yeah yeah so anyway that anyway, that's not very thrilling. Prison pasta. Brigatoni. Yeah. Not particularly thrilling, but psychic horses. Psychic horses are a common scam, right?
Starting point is 00:14:14 Oh my God, they're everywhere. Surprisingly. I can't leave the house without, you know, every day. Sign a job in front. You know, they're everywhere. You never hear about like a psychic beaver. You don't hear about a prognosticating owl. it's always it's like your horse horses yeah and why don't we give dogs because dogs also like isn't the way that the scam is pulled off a lot of the time
Starting point is 00:14:35 communication between like unspoken communication between owner between human and horse yeah like yeah totally so it's called the cleverver Hans effect, actually. Yeah. So why aren't dogs being used in this way? Is it because they don't have a mystique about them? They're too ethical. Dogs are fucking dumb. Oh, you think the dogs are rejected? The dogs are like, hey, man, I can't do this.
Starting point is 00:14:58 No, thanks. This isn't right. We're taking that lady's life savings now. I think dogs are jocks. That's why they're in the AKC. They just want to compete. They don't want like do spelling contests they're just not not into that man can i run i want to where's the balls i can jump over rascally they can't be dependent on to participate that's also a good one yeah i think also there's probably like a power of being
Starting point is 00:15:17 like hold on let me get next to the horse because it's like an animal that you're like yeah uh-huh okay like i think visually seeing like somebody like embrace the horse you're like yeah uh-huh okay like i think visually seeing like somebody like embrace the horse like no man the horse is fucking spitting there's something like inherently mystical about horses that i think impresses people impresses me i i've lost a lot of money to psychic horse scams so i'm just wondering where this is where this starts in in me yeah we measure power by horses i mean clearly we understand the pull and the compulsion is where this starts in me. Yeah, let's investigate that for you. We measure power by horses. I mean, clearly we understand the pull and the compulsion of a horse.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Right. I mean, yeah. I mean, they're tools of colonization too. So they've got a storied history. Is that true in the psychic community too? Are they like, this psychic has like 45 horsepower. Oh yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Psychic brain. This thing's got a fucking V12 up there, man. Smack that top of their head. You know how many psychics should be back in here? How about you, Zarem? What's something from your search history? Okay, so I was looking
Starting point is 00:16:18 and I had a lot of stuff from work and I'm not going to tell you my work stuff because it's all like, oh, of course you'd be looking at BB King. But the one thing that I did look up on my own was foreign accent syndrome. You familiar with foreign accent syndrome, right? One of my favorite syndromes. Yeah. It strikes dozens of people every century. It's, uh, it's okay. So I looked it up just because I wanted, you know, to make a joke with Elizabeth about it because I just happened to, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:16:42 best way to put this is that would be one occurrence. I'd be like, you know what, that'd be kind of cool to get. You know, I'll be like, oh man, it'd be really funny to me. But then I realized it would only be funny that one day, the first day it happened after that, you're like, please doctor, how do I get rid of this? So I was looking, how do they get rid of foreign accent syndrome? The only treatment is learn to sing. That's what they tell you. Because hopefully, because you know, like when you listen to someone who sings like the Beatles, it doesn't sound like an English accent as much as it sounds like singing. Except Green Day, who develop an English accent when they sing only. Yes, exactly. See, they would be able to get rid of their, you know, fake English accent by singing
Starting point is 00:17:18 in American accents. They'd be like, okay, I'm back. But you know who had this apparently for a little while? George Michaelael the singer so he was a singer and he was able to get rid of it really quickly because he had west country accent it's the english accent i don't know english accents well enough i wouldn't be able to say like oh yeah that's not an up yeah but that's not the big like step away from most of these people most of them it's like a whole continent it's usually like some English lady who gets like a really offensive Chinese accent. That's the classic one. I remember that one.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Sarah Colwell. Yeah. They did a whole show on her. And you're just like, for real? Like, really, lady? Yes, it sounds mad racist. You're like, come on, lady. You're like, no, this doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:17:55 You're like, you're just a bad comic. Like, I don't know what you're doing. You're like, no, you're doing an extended bit. George Michael goes like 50 miles away. Yes, exactly. Okay. Yeah. But also, it normally happens to women at like 87% to men's 13%.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Interesting. Yeah. So, it's based on the brain, the Broca region of the brain. So, when a person has a lesion or a stroke, all of a sudden this happens and then they can't do anything about it. So, you can hit me in a particular place on my head and we can try and make this happen. We're much more likely for you. No matter how many times we hit me in the head, it's probably unlikely. All right, accent roulette. Go get a golf club.
Starting point is 00:18:30 All right, next one. Do the next one. Is it usually based on something they have experience with? Does the person who developed it? No, it's just an accent they saw on TV. The Chinese accent one is not good. Sometimes it's not even that they know the accent. Yeah, the Chinese accent one. They're like, not good. Yeah, well, sometimes it's not even
Starting point is 00:18:45 that they know the accent. It sounds like the accent. Like there was this Norwegian woman. She had it where her accent suddenly sounded German to everybody. So they couldn't stand it and they made her leave town. They exiled her
Starting point is 00:18:57 because her accent sounded German. So it wasn't that it was like so crazy. It just, her accent no longer sounded Norwegian. They're like, oh no, you sound like a Norwegian. It's a German speaking Norwegian. Out of here. And that longer sounded Norwegian. They're like, oh no, you sound like a Norwegian, a German-speaking Norwegian. Out of here. And that was just a couple weeks ago, right? The one who got exiled from town. In January, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:12 What is something you guys think is underrated? Oh, you know what I was thinking about this? Body bags. Body bags? You guys have murder bags? Yeah. Show us the bodies. Because it's like, these are the work horses, right? And we go through a lot in this world, a lot of body bags.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And I think people don't say, I mean, how else are you going to transport these bodies after murders? Second last destination of the body, yeah. Natural disasters. So, you know what? It's underrated, the workhorse of the criminal justice system. Yeah. You need those things to be pretty sturdy you don't want any like kind of makeshift cloth cop and cough and flops happening well every now and then body bags come into my you know consciousness because ages ago back when i was on facebook i got followed by
Starting point is 00:20:00 a body bag company get out of town and i don't know why and they just was on my author page and i guess it's like whatever and they would comment and people would be like you know that seems like a threat yeah right but i was like oh i made it right the body bag folks are into it yeah so i don't know they just popped into my head the other day i wonder if anyone's ever like been in a tight spot like for luggage and just traveled, put their clothes in a body bag. That's a good idea. I have a giant duffel bag. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Like hockey bags. Yeah. You know, hockey bags you can fit truly like all of your belongings. So, yeah, I wonder if body bags. And would that just be too weird to just see a body bag roll out on the not in hockey i think in hockey it would give you an advantage if you brought that as your hockey bag i think you look like oh yeah but if you're like the undertaker yeah luggage terminal at like baggage claim that's right it's weird it's too lumpy yeah you really need the clothes to be
Starting point is 00:21:02 nice and tightly yeah yeah duct tape them yeah how about you zarem what's something uh mine is a much um much broader topic just minor league baseball just the idea of minor league baseball i'm a big fan of baseball but they have taken our hometown team away the oakland a's and so now i'm saying you know what i'm going to drop down a league i'm going to relegate my fandom down to minor league baseball. So I've been looking around. I'm looking at becoming a fan of the Modesto Nuts. We also got the fabulous Sacramento Rivercats, the Stockton Ports. But then I was looking, right? I was like, okay, there's got to be other teams that are out there that I can get on. And I found, all right, there is a ton of cool teams,
Starting point is 00:21:44 not just like the Tolledo mud hens and like the classic bull durham or the bananas oh yeah the savannah bananas there's the sugarland space cowboys are you kidding yes i could become a fan of the sugarland space cowboys how about the omaha storm chasers yeah yeah right okay the lehigh valley iron pigs what is that even what yeah i don't know what what is an iron pig like i'm sure there's a history right so an iron pig is just like they flipped it right it turns out that this is like a steel person's joke it's it's there in the lehigh valley and uh the pig iron is actually what it comes from so they turned it into iron pig pig iron is the what it comes from. So they turned it into iron pig. Pig iron is the type of iron that's used for steel.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So they just took like something only they know about. They're like, hey, how about this? That's a little inside joke. Exactly. I love going to minor league games because it's like everyone thinks, oh, it's so intimate. But the players can hear when people are yelling stuff. I used to, I lived in Las Vegas for a little bit and I went to the, one of the games there and someone was heckling the first baseman, like third row, all about like how his wife had left him. And it just kept escalating and people were like, knock it off, man.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And he just wouldn't stop. And the guy, the guy could hear him because it was so close. It was pretty amazing. I love, I love, okay. I would talk tough. I was like, you know, you never catch a, like a fly ball generally when you go to a major league game i was thinking oh well minor league there's i'm much more likely there's fewer fans like i got better odds so i'm talking tough to the guys are easier to push over that was that was the thing though man okay so it turns out there was
Starting point is 00:23:19 all of a sudden a like a foul ball and it comes rocketing into the stands and i was like looking at the ball come in i was like oh man so i ducked because i was coming like basically chest high and then right behind me is like this 10 year old kid and you hear this and i was like oh i felt terrible they stopped the game they like bring the ball player he comes out to give the kid like a like a signed bad because they feel so terrible and a body bag i spent the rest of the game having to live down like, oh yeah, I want a ball so bad. Apparently not Burnett. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Turns out. Not built for it. Not built for it. No, exactly. There was something that happened recently at Inter Miami, whatever the club Messi plays for in MLS. He tried a free kick and it hit a baby in the first row.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Everyone was like, you can hear me like, no, it was Messi messy though you got hit by the ball from messing though you're good you're good you're good yeah you're blessed with life how about what's something you guys think is overrated well i think because i have to hold it together and be 99 murder free all the time my overrated is um bulletproof vests because like you still can get shot in the head or you fellas can get hit in the ding-ding. And it's like...
Starting point is 00:24:29 It's life-changing. You're more likely to survive a lot of center-mast shots than the head shots. So I think the whole bulletproof vesting is overrated. Yeah, what about everywhere else? Yeah. Or kneecapped. You get kneecapped.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Yeah, that's supposed to be bad right here one of the most painful yeah yeah so that's my you know i just i like conversation killers and there you go gets you thinking gets you thinking yeah what about you zarin oh i got you elizabeth if you want a conversation killer mine is gentle parenting or just generally kids i think that they're overrated right now not like, not like children themselves, the concept, but the way that people talk about kids these days, like, oh, I'm into gentle parenting. I want to respect my child's autonomy. Okay. Look, I'm not a parent, but I was parented. Right. And I remember this. And okay. You guys remember being kids, right? No. Well, you also kind of remember, I'm sure some of the
Starting point is 00:25:24 kids, total shitheads, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nothing has changed. So some of these kids out there still just tiny terrors. Well, I'm asking if I'm at the airport and the parents are like, oh, here's an iPad and the kid's still being a tiny terror. Look, just talk to them, engage with them. It's not difficult. It's what is it? The fair, be fair, consistent, present. That's it. I'm not saying like, you know, beat the child. But I mean, like, just engage with the child and said this, consistent, present. That's it. I'm not saying like, you know, beat the child, but I mean like just engage with the child and said this, well, I'm trying to respect their autonomy. I don't think that's helping.
Starting point is 00:25:49 And I remember being personally a problem child. It was always the tough teachers that I loved. It was always the people who were like, look, I expect more of you. And I'm like, well, looking back, they really did raise the bar for me. Anybody who played down to me, I was like, okay, I can play them like a chump.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I think that these other kids are thinking the same thing. Nothing has so i'm saying let's maybe uh raise our bar for kids a little that's all you know maybe i'm not putting it on parents children yeah well not necessarily mean or just expect more you'll be like hey like come on now act like you've been here yeah yeah act like you've been here yeah call them by their last name exactly act like you've been here before quit playing grab ass down there yeah you guys keep fucking horsing around like yeah
Starting point is 00:26:32 the iPad parenting is definitely it's a temptation that is always there you can just immediately give your child the equivalent of a very powerful tranquilizer.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Exactly. At any time during the day. Yeah. And they're constantly begging for it. Give me the trank, daddy. Like,
Starting point is 00:26:56 on the other hand, there's a reason, like, tranquilizers have been around for a while. We don't do that because it's fucking unhealthy for them.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. have been around for a while we don't do that because it's unhealthy for them yeah but yeah it's uh especially on flights like in when you're traveling with a kid it's it's on the flight one thing it's more like when they're waiting for the plane like when they're the kids are running around and like knocking into old ladies and stuff i'm like yeah all right well come on we all saw that four-year-old is going to take out the old lady. I mean, come on. Come on, dad. I understand the kid needs to run before he gets on the plane, but maybe run with him.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Run down the escalator. I don't know. Yeah, exactly. Be like, let's try and get into a secured area that only TSA employs. Exactly, kid. Let's get you on a no-fly list. Exactly. Teach him about form tackling.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Wrap up low, son. because you do always hear people be like what do you want me to do they're like they're a kid yeah like they're a kid man i get that in some context when my kids are having fun but like i've seen times where like kids are like fucking trying to go into like the kitchen of a restaurant there are literal boundaries that you have to draw. Yeah, rocket. He just, he's trying to kick in the pilot's door. No, he's trying to cockpit.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Oh, come on. He's a kid. Let him get some hours in on the friolator. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll talk about it. Have you guys seen the Donald Trump guy? Have you heard about him?
Starting point is 00:28:24 No. What is going on with this guy? All right, we'll be right back. And we're back. We're back. And you guys heard of this Donald Trump guy? Have you guys seen this Donald Trump guy? You guys seen this Donald Trump guy? You seen this?
Starting point is 00:28:46 You heard about this? No, tell me more. So this campaign occasionally is feeling like just keeping a running tally of the deranged soundbites from each candidate. Oh, yeah. However, this weekend, Trump was really like putting some numbers on the board. Yeah. He referred to the country of argentina as a great guy great guy called biden obama uh likened migrants to hannibal lecter from silence of the
Starting point is 00:29:13 lambs he said they're rough people in many cases from jails prisons from mental institutions insane asylums you know insane asylums that silence of the lambs stuff hannibal lecter anybody know hannibal lecter he said he had to survey the audience anybody heard of him well he's like a fucking comic he's just like always doing crab well then he also had a lot of trump i mean he also had a lot of speaking errors too the he was running up the score on like trying to say things as well but But hey, that's just part of the campaign from all candidates. I feel like every person
Starting point is 00:29:49 during the course of their life has a certain amount of drunkness to get through. And even if you don't drink, as is his case, he's just burning out all the drunkness now. Well, doesn't he have that theory that everyone is born with a certain amount of energy? Yes. You just have a certain amount of energy. Right. So he has that with drunkness now. Well, doesn't he have that theory that everyone is born with a certain amount of energy?
Starting point is 00:30:05 Yes. You just have a certain amount of energy. Right. So he has that with drunkness too. He's got to burn through it. It's also burning through, just plowing lines of Adderall, I think. Well, yeah, there's that too. Also has something to do with him slurring
Starting point is 00:30:19 and not seeming fully coherent. But sandwiched amongst this sea of bullshit was a new concerning campaign promise that probably deserves more attention than the mainstream media is giving it. He declared in Virginia that, as he's been hinting at since last year, if he is elected president, he will withhold funding for schools that have a vaccine requirement. They were cheering. It was wild. People were like,
Starting point is 00:30:46 and I think some people were like, wait, I think that's bad. Wait a second. Iron lungs all around. In general, not just COVID, he means everything, MMR, anything. It's not clear. I think he's playing to a crowd that would probably
Starting point is 00:31:03 not distinguish between those. Sure. They would. Hey, they're not saying you can't get the vaccine. They're just saying they want their freedom as Americans to not get a vaccine. To bring back polio. To practice vaccine safety is like the fucking phrasing that you hear with these people. You know, we haven't said rubella in a long time, so I think maybe
Starting point is 00:31:28 we should use it. It's a beautiful word. There's a big measles thing in Florida, right? Yeah. Measles is running rampant. What about mumps? Yeah. What happens? Mumps is hitting. Mumps is fun. It kind of makes me want to shake my shoulders a little bit. What the fuck is even mumps now that I think about it? I don't know. It usually affects
Starting point is 00:31:44 the glands on each side of the face. These glands call it, okay, ah, ah. That's gotta be really painful. Yeah. Oof. Oh, yeah, yeah. God.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Okay, well, hey, man, freedom. It's all about freedom, bringing mumps back, bringing polio back. You have that thing with the vaccines and the whole science denial, but I also,
Starting point is 00:32:02 when they're putting it into the schools, they have this larger plan to dismantle public education yeah right you don't want to put your kids right yeah it's a two-edged sword that works for them in a number of ways yeah that they're excited about and then like siphon it to like charter schools well they'll just privatize everything exactly yeah the ultimate goal. Yeah. But experts, which, you know, we trust those guys as far as we can throw them. But, uh,
Starting point is 00:32:27 experts have warned that this could create quote, a public health catastrophe for the nation. Yeah. Yeah. That's Peter. Yeah. Baylor who like, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:38 was like one of, you know, really out there during COVID, like sounding the alarm and telling people about like what the risks are. But yeah, in fact, he's like, yeah, that yeah that's uh don't just fucking cut the brakes on this thing yeah i i feel like i'd be like well you know what cold a herd but it's not gonna affect the rest of us this is the one that kills the rest of us exactly yeah yeah we can all have mumps together right oh my god it'd be so fun.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Team building. We haven't heard from Aaron Rogers on where he's coming down on this. So we're waiting to pass judgment, but you know. Yeah. The real expert. We're waiting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I just want to know like what essential oils do you use for mumps? It's a combination of. It's a rum therapy actually. Oh, it's just a rum. Yeah. Well, it's that and colloidal silver,
Starting point is 00:33:23 obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you've seen Mother God, but you kind of want to do something like that or maybe emu oil is that helpful you want to rub that on the scalp just yeah gently yeah okay yep and then fill a bath uh full of eucalyptus leaves and just breathe that in yeah anyway but these are all things that we can do to fight off the coming i don't know retro pandemic that's coming anyway
Starting point is 00:33:45 but despite all this stuff it looks like voters are pretty chill about trump not being a dictator or being one they don't know um because a lot of the biden campaign like their electoral messaging is their strategy hinges on biden reminding voters that trump is indeed a wacky piece of shit that is bad for America. And they've been very explicit about this. And that makes the findings of a recent poll a little unsettling. There was a poll that was asking people in swing states that was specifically designed to only include people that potentially actually vote for Biden, meaning no one who voted Trump for in 2020 was, you know, none of their answers were taken
Starting point is 00:34:26 into the analysis, or people that believe the election was stolen, those people's answers were also left out of the analysis. So again, these are voters in swing states that potentially could vote for Biden. The poll asked these people about 10 of Trump's, quote, most authoritarian statements, things like how he would terminate parts of the Constitution, that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country. His vow to pardon January 6th rioters, the promise to prosecute the Biden family with no evidence, his his his threat to, quote, inflict mass persecution on the, quote, vermin opposition. Only 31 percent of respondents said they previously had heard about these statements by trump they're like oh that's what he said oh interesting that isn't
Starting point is 00:35:11 we say he also wanted to like do it did they include the one where he was like yeah i'm not gonna do a dictatorship except on day one day one yeah that's when i just day one right just day one enough to kick it off and then i'll let my minions do the work. But yeah, so not great if you're betting the farm on, you know, screaming about how Trump's, you know, what like what his record is. And but I guess the positive news here is that when people did hear about this, their feelings changed. So people began to see him as, quote, out for revenge that jumped up by five points after hearing this. began to see him as quote out for revenge that jumped up by five points. After hearing this, the percentage who see him as quote dangerous rose by nine points.
Starting point is 00:35:48 And the percentage who see him as a dictator went up seven points. And a lot of like the accepted wisdom in DC is that like, people already know that this guy's dangerous, you know, like just stop wasting your time. Uh, but this poll says otherwise, but a third of people were like,
Starting point is 00:36:04 huh? What? wasting your time uh but this poll says otherwise about a third of people were like huh what so at least there's room for people to get rightly freaked out i guess is the silver lining here there's room for more freak out silver lining yeah it's a weird thing because you have to manage it though because if you if you if you get people freaked out they don't want to stay freaked out so then they'll stop listening to you if you freak them out for too long. So you have to freak them out in spurts, basically. Right. And then there's also the problem is essentially that we're talking about this this Trump issue. I think here's a good analogy. It's like a crime. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:37 You cannot go to the police and say, hey, I want you to investigate this crime until there's a crime. You can tell people what Trump's going to do, but they won't believe you until he's done it. But we can't have him do it because then he's done it. So it's the issue of we have to think differently about it. So there was this woman who called the police and she wanted them to find her missing. I think it was her sister. And instead of saying it was her missing sister, she phoned in that her sister's car was stolen. They found the missing car and they found the sister.
Starting point is 00:37:03 They would not have looked for her sister otherwise, but they knew that the cops would go to find the missing car, the stolen car, because they care about property and it's easier for them to look for, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm thinking, think messaging. They're not like, give us 48 hours before. Exactly. The car needs to be gone 48 hours before we consider
Starting point is 00:37:20 it stolen. So I think that the Democratic strategists need to think about the stolen car messaging of how they can manage this moment because they're going to have months that they have to freak people out about trump and you do not want to turn them off so pick your moments they got to do a little bit of freak out edging i guess exactly that's right don't fucking go too hard to boil slow yes exactly but i think it just reveals sort of like to your point like this disparity between how elected officials like wonks and like capitol hill reporters see
Starting point is 00:37:50 things and how normal everyday voters do yes again that's why like hinging this whole thing on telling people about how trump couldn't be as their entire strategy i don't know you also kind of need to do more to help people understand also what your vision is. It's like being on the dating game, right? And like you're courting one of the contestants and they say, oh, suitor number one, what's your favorite romantic date? And they go, let me tell you about suitor number two. He's a dangerous piece of shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Fuck that dude. He's wild. He's crazy. Yeah, you can't see him. And I see him. I'm right here next to him. Right. And then as a person
Starting point is 00:38:25 at the person who's like the one about to go on the date they're like okay what about you though can we talk about you well this guy's crazy yeah yeah you ain't seen suitor number three yet so it's like well okay that's like what are you going to do that's another part of the process here that they really need to actually understand like that's good to sound the alarm but you also need to give people a vision of the future they can invest in that you know and i know this is hard for the establishment democratic party but like you know can you can you do something a little bit more than the status quo that might that might also help too yeah swing with both hands like you know use that right for the attack and use the left for like okay defense
Starting point is 00:39:03 like okay i'm gonna keep trump off but tell me what you're going to do too. I think it's a really good point, which is you hear the voters saying that, and yet Democrats tend to, at least at the national level, want to maintain a momentum machine rather than like, they talk about the threats to what you may lose from the other party, as you're saying, but they never talk about where it's going to go. It's just been, oh, it's going to keep going the way it's going. You love this.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Don't you love stuff? All the stuff you have, it's great. No, that's not going to work. They can't do any of the stuff that they claim they's going to go it's just been oh it's going to keep going the way it's going you you love this don't you love stuff all the stuff you have it's great no that's not gonna work the stuff that they claim they're gonna right exactly yeah because they've hit the sort of like end of the rope because at this point if they go further they're like i guess do we defund the police i guess do we actually do something about the climate like in a really aggressive way i think that's the thing you gotta be brave about it yeah right voters have made it they're not being brave about any kind of stance. You know,
Starting point is 00:39:46 you're trying to play the middle and I understand that. But when you look back historically at the big movements that have, have helped our society, they're brave. Right. You know, and you kind of go out on a limb. So it's like,
Starting point is 00:39:56 you're saying the one, two punch of like, look at this really bold thing. We're going to do PS. This guy's fucking out of his mind. Yeah. You know, I want the FDR, you know, the LBJ. Yeah. Like the fight and the program. do. P.S. This guy's fucking out of his mind. I want the FDR.
Starting point is 00:40:05 The LBJ. Give me the fight and the program. I just want the FDR in the sense that I want polio to come back. We're working on it. We are working on that. Six months, don't worry. The dating game analogy I made reference to Rodney Alcala, the
Starting point is 00:40:21 serial killer who was on the dating game. He won that shit. So maybe. I don't know what the other contestant's strategy was. I wonder if the guy was like, this guy's a murderer. I think he's a murderer. I'm pretty sure this guy is wanted for murder. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:44 You sound like a hater. And they're like, oh, my God, this guy is wanted for murder i don't know and they're like oh my god this guy's intriguing negative why are you guys like so obsessed with him this isn't like he so intrigued now yeah he went on the date and the date ended prematurely because the person found him creepy right ah yeah yeah unfortunately unfortunately in the case of trump on day one when he's like dictatorship it will be too late for us to find him creepy yep yeah yeah but also the democrats why can't they talk about what he did the first time he was president and then connect that to what he's going what he says he wants to do talk about what he actually has done his actions and then go and he wants to do more of that if they're going to talk about it,
Starting point is 00:41:27 rather than just wagging a finger and being like, you know what he's going to do? Because then it sounds like he's got all this power. Like this guy's just going to get in there and do stuff. People, his voters, a lot of the moderates, they kind of dig the idea that this guy has some energy and plans to do something. So don't give him credit for wanting to do stuff because it backfires for lots of reasons. Yeah. Yeah. Dictatorship, I think, like after, you know, like we mentioned, a lot of people's disillusionment with the Democratic Party is their propensity to be like, well, we promised this, but thrown up their hands like the powers that be. It's like you're the president.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Aren't you the powers that be. It's like, you're the president. Aren't you the powers that be? Well, and I swear to God, if any other, any like top politician comes at me with, you know, you got to get out and vote. I'm like, look, bitch, I voted. And you haven't done anything about it. Stop telling me to vote because I keep voting. I keep voting. Right. And then it's what? At some point, you got to hold up your end of the bargain here.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Right. But at some point, you got to hold up your end of the bargain here. Right. But I do wonder if like, you know, there have been a lot of interviews and polls with Trump supporters that indicate that they're not voting for him in spite of the dictatorial vibes, but because of the dictatorial vibes and because people are like, yeah, it's time for something different. You know, Mussolini? I don't know. Guy had real energy. Had riz. So, all right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll talk about the guy who got stung on the ball sack by a scorpion. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
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Starting point is 00:46:20 Oh, yeah. I just pass out. I went into my Phil Hartman group chat. Okay. Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah. Nice. I warged into a crow and ate a bunch of shit off Jack.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Wait a second. Hold on one second, Jack. Get out of there. Oh, man. But, yeah, another very serious news. You know, maybe one of the worst ads for the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas I've ever seen. A man was woken up to a scorpion sting on his
Starting point is 00:46:48 ball bag as he slept. I'm just going to play You said that in like perfect local news. I had to because it's just wild to hear. Let me just play the local scorpion sting on his ball bag.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Ball bag. I'm going to just play this little snippet of the local news in Las Vegas describing this story. A man staying at the Venetian Christmas week says he was awoken by something. Sometime during the night, he woke up to pain that he found when he was stung by a scorpion in his testicles. In his ball bag. I just felt like somebody stabbing me in my private area. It felt like a sharp glass or a knife. Michael Farchi says he continued to investigate the source of that pain, and that's when he found something.
Starting point is 00:47:38 I went to the restroom and I saw a scorpion hanging on my underwear. These are photos from that day, December 26, that Farchi and his attorney shared with me. You can see the scorpion. Any idea on how this scorpion got in? Did they ever tell you how it got in the room? They don't know. Did he ever tell you? Were they saying the scorpion?
Starting point is 00:47:59 Did you ever tell you how it got in there? Did you guys see the man seated next to him? His lawyer? Hard to miss him. Yeah. Okay. Because anyway, so when I look at this, when I saw this, I'm like, okay, what is going, like, is this guy scamming? What's happening?
Starting point is 00:48:14 Did he really get stung on the ball bag? It's not a, I think, I don't know how easily you can prove it. But I'm just, you know, just fromory research i've done it does look like he was stung by a bark scorpion which are very common in clark county so in terms of species it's tracking the part where my ignorance is making me suspicious is sort of like how do you get up how many how many flights how many stories did the what floor were you on yeah oh i like i could totally have a room key yeah because you think about like i don't know if you've ever worked What floor were you on? Yeah. Oh, I could totally see that happening. Yeah. Because you think about, like, I don't know if you've ever worked in a store, like, where you have to stock stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Sure. And you open up, like, the shipping containers that come in. There's all sorts of stuff happening there. Yeah, we're buying shit. Because if you think about, like, if the supplies are in, like, a loading dock and you could get scorpions in it. Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. And then it goes into, like like the housekeeping cart or something like that and there are some there's some wild things out in the desert and so i'm not i'm kind of not
Starting point is 00:49:10 surprised yeah it goes on a smoke break yeah yeah it's a hitchhiker hitchhiker on the pant yeah exactly exactly i think maybe for me i think the main reason is because of the way this guy's lawyer looks you know what i mean like this this dude next to him like what he's wearing a fedora and like j-lo glasses from like the way too small for his head way too small for that he looks like he's hiding from the european mafia some european mafia i don't know which one but he's hiding from them or he's having like an identity crisis in his late 70s and he's like i'm gonna dress like an al pacino character that does molly and also gonna do get engaged in some frivolous lawsuits so to me i'm like i don't know bro based on your lawyer now i'm like like i was with you i'm like the scorpion tracks i'm not really i can see now as how a scorpion
Starting point is 00:50:01 can ascend the the many stories into the room but the the lawyer, I'm like, and also like, I don't think he's the dude who's like, brings scorpions with him and he's like, all right, now do your thing. Let's get a free hotel stay. So I don't know. I guess the more likely version here was that he was probably legit stung,
Starting point is 00:50:22 but the hotel probably truly didn't give a fuck. They're like, what you gonna do, man? It's Vegas. And when they didn't offer enough money for his suffering, he was like, yo, bro, let me get lawyered up and go on the local news and try and maybe get a settlement or something. Biter bite doesn't sell. Scorpion bite, that sells.
Starting point is 00:50:38 But he also picks a crap lawyer because if you got a good lawyer who didn't wear the fedora and the J-Lo glasses, you wouldn't be on the local news. You'd just be like high-level negotiations. Oh, so you want to avoid the local news altogether. Oh, right. My rule of thumb is don't go on local news.
Starting point is 00:50:54 It never ends well. If there's a natural disaster, you're not going to catch me out there and be like, well, you know, the earthquake. Don't. Don't do it. We didn't see it coming. Yeah, we were out on our street when it's just yeah doesn't help anybody so that's that's a good rule of thumb and especially if you're in like a legal situation don't go on the news yeah i think the only thing that was suspicious to me
Starting point is 00:51:16 is that they have a photograph of a dead scorpion on the crotch of his underwear. Yeah. Which is, so it never, like they, it was still like stuck hanging on there. It feels posed. It feels very done. It was hanging and then using its stinger to get him. Yeah. And so, I don't know. Do we have pictures of his ball sack?
Starting point is 00:51:40 How is he threatening the scorpion? Like, let's see proof that this actually happened. Yeah, because this photo is like, look, it's on the ball area of my underwear. Yeah. And did one of its pincers get stuck in the fabric? That's why it's still there. He's like, oh, shit, they're not going to believe me.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I better place the scorpion where my balls were. Do I want to see this guy's balls? No. No. Do I want an expert to look at it and tell me if he ever said, yeah, go ahead. Because it sounds like, and I've looked at how to treat these. It's like, yeah, you can go to the hospital, but also like, it sounds like something when i've looked at how to treat these it's like yeah you can go to the hospital but also like it sounds like something you can kind of treat on your own
Starting point is 00:52:09 if it's not too bad yeah so yeah bag of ice some tylenol i'm thinking you're gonna be good yeah right a little cold compress or something like that but yeah i just it's the lawyer it's just wild how much like a like a weird, skeevy looking lawyer can completely like threaten the credibility of something. I'm like, no, not have you seen that Casey Wolfman, the the chiefs, a holic, the guy who is robbing banks so he could go to chiefs games. Yeah. His lawyer makes him look all the way guilty. You're just like, oh, man, you're going to jail. And he just pled guilty. So, yeah, I think your point is well made.
Starting point is 00:52:43 You know, you can kind of judge a case by the lawyer. That guy just hangs out in the Venetian blackjack table and waits for somebody to run by screaming. And he's like, alright, time to make money, people. Wow. Oh, wow. He looks like McLovin is what
Starting point is 00:53:01 one person on Twitter said about his lawyer. Yeah. He should be his own miniseries. Right. All right. Well, Kellogg's is in the news for a couple reasons. One reason, not the main reason, they have announced a new rentable Eggo House of Pancakes. Rentable?
Starting point is 00:53:21 Wow, nailed the branding on that one. Yeah. Eggo, known for their pancakes lego my pancake it's also weird because it looks like the location for a horror movie set in the cloudy with a chance of meatballs universe but the yeah it's just a syrupy fuck shack that they're kind of thrown out there hoping that people don't pay attention to the other reason they've been in the news lately, which is their CEO, Gary Pilnick, went on CNBC and boldly suggested that families struggling with rising food costs should simply consider eating cereal for dinner. Yeah, it's it's actually it's it's worse when you hear the guy say it out loud, like in a way where he's like, Hey, here's an idea. Here he is. Here's Gary Pilnick.
Starting point is 00:54:11 The cereal category has always been quite affordable and it tends to be a great destination when consumers are under pressure. So some of the things that we're doing is first messaging. We got to reach the consumer where they are. So we're advertising about cereal for dinner. If you think about the cost of cereal for a family versus what they might otherwise do, that's going to be much more affordable. The other places that we like to go is we talk about making sure we have the right pack at the right price. Anyway, so he goes on and like, he has this look of like, just dismissiveness. So we're just like, we're going to throw it out there to him. Because you think about that, that's way affordable. He is sitting in a tropical location in front of a fountain that has a lion spitting water.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I'm pretty sure it's a Ritz Carlton. It's very Mar-a-Lago. Yeah. Right, right. And he has his shirt unbuttoned with a blazer. yeah right right and he has his like shirt unbuttoned with like a blazer and he's he just seems like he is on the verge of just being like these piggies they'll fucking eat it up they'll slop it up they're fucking disgusting little pigs it's very much the like let them eat cake but let them eat rice crispy treats it's just he does not give a shit about us he's just you know what you people do i don't want to see it but buy my product it's again they're fucking pathetic right it's also like
Starting point is 00:55:31 the euphemistic language that they use like it's like bro this isn't uh you know a fucking david bowie track people aren't under pressure right now they're fucking broke it's like yeah when the consumer we find that as the consumers are under pressure. And then when they're like, hey, man, you sure you wanted to say that? And he came back around to that shit again. He said, are you sure that? I feel like the thing you just said could, quote, land the wrong way with consumers. And he's like, in fact, it's landing really well right now.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah, dude, here, watch him just go back around. He's like, you sure you want to say that? You want to take that back? It's landing really well right now yeah dude here watch him just go back around he's like you sure you sure you want to say that you want to take that back it's landing really well right now carl when we look at all of our data of course we would know that breakfast cereal is the number one choice for in-home consumption we understand that for breakfast it turns out that over 25 percent of our consumption is outside the breakfast occasion right a lot of it's at dinner and that that occasion continues to grow as well as a snacking occasion but um cereal for dinner is something that is is probably more on trend now and we would expect to continue as that consumer is under pressure consumer is under pressure all he had to do was just step into weed and say look stoners you want to buy some cereal?
Starting point is 00:56:46 And he had a growth curve. He totally misunderstood that people are eating this shit as a treat outside of like dinner or outside of breakfast because it's like junk food. It's like a junk food. They're not. They don't think of this as like replacing fucking chicken, which is what their ad with starring Tony the Tiger suggests. Yes. Oh, man. Yeah. How about this?
Starting point is 00:57:08 Ready for a fever dream? All right. So let's get to that ad. This one is a YouTube video called Enjoy Kellogg's Cereal for Dinner. And it's a family at a dinner table at nighttime with Froot Loops, Frosted Flakes, and Frosted Mini Wheats,
Starting point is 00:57:27 and bowls in front of everybody, a little apple and a carafe of orange juice. That's how we all drink it, right? A little weed, let that breathe. When I say cereal, you say dinner. Cereal. Dinner. Cereal.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Dinner. Chicken. Whoa. You can have the night off chicken a chicken okay i'll go marinate cereal wow the chicken's begging to be eaten yeah yeah it is like the sickest looking cartoon chicken you've ever seen it but yeah this is like it's really thought-stopping tactics where it's just like i don't know just yell cereal dinner at them yeah and then they'll start doing it because they're fucking idiots man carl i don't have to tell you this i love just the ceo shit where like people where he's like in fact it's landing really well right now carl whoa he said my name we're friends i'm good with this yeah but yeah what uh this is
Starting point is 00:58:36 a across like a broad strategy i do think that it's, all the rich people have gotten together and are like, we need to zap them of willpower, feed them low protein diets. Like it's a cult. And then they won't be able to, they won't start eating us. They won't stop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:58 They'll finally stop talking about protein, high sugar. And like the corn subsidy of it all is just insane. Here's the thing, too. I don't like unsolicited advice. So I didn't ask you, dude, how to feed my family. So keep it to your damn self. They're not giving advice.
Starting point is 00:59:21 They're just shouting cereal and dinner at you. Hey, listen, for all those struggling families, if you're under pressure, here's a tip. I didn't ask. All these calls to eat the rich are making me uncomfortable. How about cereal, people? Yeah. Yeah. Eat the cereal.
Starting point is 00:59:36 If you're, quote, under pressure and you have to feed your family with cereal, you're not feeding them like Frosted Flakes. You're feeding them the generic store brand. Yes. You're not using them like Frosted Flakes. You're feeding them the generic store brand. You're not using that stuff. In 2022, Kellogg's offered cash prizes for people who shared pictures of themselves eating their favorite Kellogg's cereal
Starting point is 00:59:56 for dinner on social media. So dystopian. Here you go. You want $5? Take a picture of you and your sick little family eating our products yeah throw that chicken in the fucking garbage make it look real chicken and then like the mom gives like a gym from the office look at the camera when when telling the chicken to take the night off but yeah i don't know i mean experts again these assholes experts are saying that having cereal
Starting point is 01:00:28 for dinner isn't a great idea because it's less healthy and far less economical that's the other thing is it's the like these people like didn't even bother to think about whether it was a good deal right they're just yeah they like, I don't know. They're fucking lazy and tired. Just make them eat this shit. But it's less economical than other breakfast foods such as oatmeal. And even though eggs have gotten more expensive, like eggs are, you know, better bang for your buck
Starting point is 01:00:59 because they do have protein, which a shocking amount of your calories are supposed to come from protein i just like discovered this that like it's like you're supposed to have so many pro like grams of protein on a daily basis i think it's like one gram of protein for every pound you weigh on a daily basis that's about right damn that's that's too much yeah well you're bulking up pretty nice dude because i know you're tripling that. Thanks, man. That liver king shit got you just looking fucking swole, dude. That's right.
Starting point is 01:01:29 I eat six chicken livers to get up in the morning. But yeah, I don't know. justification to relaunch a failed marketing campaign that would force families to eat sugary hunks of dried corn for dinner because they can't afford real food is shockingly not panning out for them. People are so pissed at the Kellogg CEO that TikTok is currently organizing a massive boycott, suggesting alternatives to Kellogg's products, like buying eggs and using a waffle iron and... Get them where it hurts! Get a waffle iron! I like the threatened use of a waffle iron.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Totally. Don't make me use it. Pancakes, huh? I'll take your spot. Waffles, it is. Yeah, I mean, Kellogg, I think when they were trying to unionize, they were threatening to fire all their employees and stuff. So that's the real thing. It's like the Trump where it's like, OK, I understand that we need to be upset about what this man said.
Starting point is 01:02:31 But the CEO also did a huge anti-union push. And I want to be really upset about that, like what he does as opposed to what he says, when obviously what he says in this case is worth being upset about. But still, can we talk about anti-union stuff and bring that up every single time we're upset about this yeah yeah yeah he oversaw like the move where they were like threatening to fire because people were fighting for a fair wage he makes uh four million dollars a year oh well so he's under pressure too yeah he's i mean do you it's it's not easy to afford tickets to like wherever the fuck he was in that interview on CNBC. it in the fact that the wealthy people who are making a lot of the decisions about what they're what the companies do that kind of drive a lot of our day-to-day lives are completely isolated and insulated from any sort of feedback from actual people the only thing they do like he went on
Starting point is 01:03:42 this show and thought it was a good idea to be like, no, actually our graphs like say this is fucking dynamite. He's talking to the market. I was like, are you sure you want to say that? And he was like, Carl,
Starting point is 01:03:55 it's a fucking slam dunk, my man. Yeah. Just so confident and just like so willing to double down. It's I, yeah, the whole, Just so confident and just like so willing to double down. It's I. Yeah. The whole the world of people making the big decisions are completely the only thing that they pay attention to is like Wall Street. And probably hockey stick.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Yeah. CNBC all day. Well, yeah, because the whole time he was talking, they were showing a line graph of Kellogg's stock price. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's him just making his pitch to the market. He's not talking to people like the people who would buy the product. It's like, hey, man, you trying to draft off of our price gouging and kind of make a couple of nickels for yourself?
Starting point is 01:04:37 Well, here's our strategy. We're marketing directly to poor. I mean, I'm sorry. Under pressure consumers. Yes. To eat more crap that we sell on the cheap. Also, we raised prices by 28% over the last couple
Starting point is 01:04:50 years, but don't worry about that. It just means more money for you. It's double fund inflation. Yeah, that's right. Well, guys, it's been such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Thank you for having us. Thank you so much. It's been fun.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? Let's see. I've got a new podcast that's worth checking out. Very special episodes here on iHeart. And then, yeah, there's other ones down the pike. What about you? Ridiculous Crime every Tuesdays and Thursdays. And if you want it, you can go to RidiculousCrime.com.
Starting point is 01:05:22 It's a really state-of-the-art website. to ridiculouscrime.com or it's a really state-of-the-art website and I think it's it's it's impressive because it's so far ahead of what everyone else
Starting point is 01:05:30 is doing very 2000 fun yeah and then we're on social media stuff I don't know somewhere allegedly
Starting point is 01:05:36 Instagram every every Tuesday and Thursday when an episode comes out we supplement with all the photos for people to know what we're talking about
Starting point is 01:05:44 there you go yeah there it is that's where you can find us amazing comes out we supplement uh with all the photos for people to know what we're talking about there you go there it is that's where you can find us amazing uh is there a work of media that you guys have been enjoying work of media oh okay i'll have to admit this tweet or yeah there was a tweet about how uh let's see i think i okay i didn't find it it and I quote, sad now more than ever that people slept on the new Mission Impossible where Tom Cruise is told that AI control over finance and culture is inevitable. And the only way to avoid being left behind is to influence it ourselves.
Starting point is 01:06:16 And his response is, nah, I'm going to kill it. Now, see, I'm with this. All of a sudden, I am a Tom Cruise fan. I'm all aboard on the Tom Cruise train. Wasn't a fan before. Now it's me, AI versus AI, and I'm into it. I all of a sudden, I am a Tom Cruise fan. I'm all aboard on the Tom Cruise train. Wasn't a fan before. Now it's me. Am I versus AI?
Starting point is 01:06:27 And I'm into it. Kill that shit. Yes. Amazing. How about you, Elizabeth? I have been really, it's an old one,
Starting point is 01:06:35 but that clip from French television where Serge Gainsbourg is being feted by, what is it? 30 some schoolboys dressed as him with the cigarettes and the little glasses. And he's crying? Yes. And he's weeping.
Starting point is 01:06:49 And I don't know. I just suddenly thought of it the other day, and I've been resending it to people. I'm not on Twitter. So this is other means. And I think my friends, my family are tired of me sending this to them. I was like, no, watch it again. Watch it again. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:07:02 It's inside of the French culture. Exactly. Yeah. Ah, the French. That's high culture right there yeah that is just such a wild i that video just blows me away though too like it's so absurd you know what i mean and like the song is so morose yes all these kids got cigarettes and then you have serge gainsborough who's like just smoking being like oh and just weeping he is just brought low by this touching the emotion of it all and it's like instead of him just sitting there with his jaw open like what is this no he's vive la france having four or five cigarettes
Starting point is 01:07:36 if i got hit on the head that would be the accent i came back with my bad approximation of a french accent. Yes. Say, Serge Gainsbourg would be interesting. You just wear denim jackets all the time. There's one clip of him performing Bonnie and Clyde
Starting point is 01:07:52 where like, he's like times lighting a cigarette to the song starting, but like, he's kind of old and it like, he kind of misses the beat
Starting point is 01:07:59 and it's like, it's real funny. He was like, oh, light my cigarette, pop my collar, and you're like, Serge,
Starting point is 01:08:04 baby, I love that you just, sir, baby. I love that. You just talk singing, baby. We love it. Miles. What is the work of media?
Starting point is 01:08:13 You've been enjoying the work of people. Find you. You can find me at miles of gray, where they got the ad symbols. You can find Jack and I on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got mad. He's like 90 day fiance. Catch me on four 20 day fiance. That's a 90 day podcast.
Starting point is 01:08:28 And also you can see me or listen to me on the latest episode of Jordan, Jesse go. And the last couple of latest episodes of behind the bastards with Robert Evans. We were talking about Joshua, who was this Nigerian pastor who, you know, the show. It's already some of the darkest figures out there. Is he cool? Dude, there's so many layers to this guy's fuckery.
Starting point is 01:08:52 It's pretty mind-blowing. Wow. Like, even, like, kind of skillfully weaponizing white supremacy against Europeans. It's just like, there's layers to this one. There's layers to this one. And, yeah, let's see. Some tweets I like. Let me pull up my likes.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Okay, here's one from Fran at Winge Wine tweeted, Fun fact, if Celine Dion sang only the vowels in her name, it would be in the lyrics to Old McDonald's Farm. And also at Gravy Mango tweeted, The Vietnamese stunted on the French so hard with the banh mi. If I were French, I'd be so embarrassed. Humiliating. Look at you. Look at you.
Starting point is 01:09:35 The state of you. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Tina Steven at WNBA wife tweeted, why does a can of biscuits open like that? Is life not scary enough? tweeted, why does a can of biscuits open like that? Is life not scary enough? And MethInJune tweeted, how about you
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Starting point is 01:10:13 We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. What was a song that we think you might enjoy? Miles, what's something that you think people might enjoy? So this is a track from Caroline Polachek, and it's called Spring is coming with a strawberry in the mouth and this track is like super like it's really all over the place it feels like if like uh i don't know like a 2020 version of like kate bush but doing some real wild stuff with the production it's kind of i don't know i really fuck with this track it's super different um and poppy but a little bit eccentric.
Starting point is 01:10:47 So this is Spring is Coming with a Strawberry in the Mouth. And it's by Caroline Polachek. P-O-L-A-C-H-E-K. All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning.
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