The Daily Zeitgeist - Sea Lions Have Had Enough, Suing To Fix The Earth 07.12.22

Episode Date: July 12, 2022

In episode 1285, Jack and guest co-host DJ Danl Goodman are joined by writer, speaker, and co-host of BFF: Black, Fat, Femme, Doctor Jon Paul Higgins, to discuss... Suing Polluters, a Peruvian Farmer ...Aims to Hold Corporations Accountable, SEA LIONS CHASE PEOPLE OFF THE BEACH - NATURE IS REVOLTING, Bloomberg’s Number One City “For Singles” Is In A Deep Red State That’s Trying to Ban Abortion In The Constitution, Covert Food Habits and more! Suing Polluters, a Peruvian Farmer Aims to Hold Corporations Accountable SEA LIONS CHASE PEOPLE OFF THE BEACH - NATURE IS REVOLTING Bloomberg’s Number One City “For Singles” Is In A Deep Red State That’s Trying to Ban Abortion In The Constitution Covert Food Habits LISTEN: Crossfire/So Into You by Nai PalmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because
Starting point is 00:01:42 of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 245, episode 2 of DERDAILY'S EYEGASTE!
Starting point is 00:02:06 A production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, July 12th, 2022. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jerjaxic World Dominion. You know, sometimes we do song parodies up here during the AKs, but I wanted to just do an old-fashioned nickname that a lot of people are calling me, and Jerjaxic World, no colon, Dominion is a name I'm known as.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I am also known as FKA Jerjaxic Park, and I'm thrilled to be joined uh by a very special guest co-host one of the eps on this very network he's the king sting that bitch on twitch it's dj daniel goodman dj daniel aka jurassic world dj dan minion okay hit him with the explosion happy to be here jack how you doing get get off my uh get off my corner, man. I'm the guy that is known as Drew Jack. My bad. Yeah, no, that's my bad. I didn't mean to take that from you. Well, unexpectedly, another day without Miles. We do believe he will be back soon. But we are thrilled, first of all, to be joined by you.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Oh, stop. DJ Daniels. be back soon but we are thrilled first of all to be joined by you oh stop dj daniel uh we are also thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant writer speaker social justice educator who's written for ebony complex out the root and appeared on nbc news buzzfeed vox among many others they're also a fellow of the next up program. And the resulting show, BFF, Black Fat Femme, drops its first episode today. Please welcome Dr. John Paul Higgins! Hello, everybody. I'm so excited to be here. I wish I had a song to sing in the style of Miles, but I don't have anything prepared. That is fine.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Your presence is plenty. How are you on this? Maybe not your first day as a professional podcaster, but your first day with BFF out in the world. You know what? It is just, it's an interesting feeling. So I was telling my, huh, bothering. I, you know, I was telling, it's funny because my mom texted me and was like, how do you feel about your podcast coming out this week? And I was like, mom, what are you doing? Why are you texting me this? Like this, I'm already stressed out. So I'm like, now I know my mom is going to be listening and it's going to be just it's interesting. So shout out to my mom. But ultimately, I feel very, very excited. I feel grounded in a weird, odd way.
Starting point is 00:04:52 When I first started the whole process of NextUp, I was really nervous about the podcast experience because I was like, oh, my God, I'm on a real network. You know, I'm not just doing it for my random office in my apartment. But now it just feels so real. And everyone at iHeart has been amazing. And so what's the word? Not even supportive. You all are literally like a family now. So I'm really, really excited to be in good company. Thank you so much. We're thrilled to have you, truly. Yeah, truly, truly a thrill to have you and a thrill to have you on TDZ.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yeah. Yes. So we're going to get to know you a a thrill to have you on tdz yeah yes so we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first a couple of things we're talking about uh we're going to bring on super producer trisha mccarry to talk about a story this is going to be her debut as a daily zeitgeist correspondent our Wow. Extremely rare. But Trisha is very brilliant and we wanted to get her doing some research
Starting point is 00:05:52 bringing the heat on some stories that she was interested in. And the first one we've got is about how to sue corporations to hold them accountable for climate change. So that's exciting. Hell exciting. I think a lot of people wonder about this and say, well, why don't we just sue the oil companies? That's the
Starting point is 00:06:13 only thing they will ever listen to. I have my reasons. I'm skeptical of this approach that I will bring up, but it's at least interesting to know know more and i don't know maybe maybe it'll work out then we'll just talk about well okay so bloomberg uh released a thing of like top cities for singles um and their number one was wichita kansas and they had a bunch they had a bunch in texas that were like in it like half of the top five were in deep red states. So we're just going to talk about old media being, or I guess the mainstream corporate media being in a different reality from the rest of us. We might talk about covert food habits.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I don't know how brave I'm feeling, but somebody mentioned. Please. Okay. All right. Please. Let's talk about this one. Somebody mentioned that they eat burritos by opening a hole in the burrito and then sucking the insides out. Wait, what? Yeah. So a writer for The Takeout was like, so finally I've come to terms with this is not weird.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Lots of people eat their burrito like Edgar in know, Edgar in Men in Black consumes that farmer. And I don't know. It seems I so I just want to get all the all the weird food habits out there because I definitely have a couple of strange ones. Oh, no, no. You are saying, oh, for sure that I have some strange ones, right? Oh, well, you, but also all of us. I can't wait to expound upon this one. Oh, for sure. I got some weird ones. Revolting.
Starting point is 00:07:54 So we're going to talk about that. All of that. Plenty more. But first, John, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? So I'm a very inquisitive person. And one of the things that I have searched recently is who is Julia Fox and why does the world hate her? It seems like every time, I don't know, I just feel like I see her name. Her name is always associated to some type of hatred.
Starting point is 00:08:26 see her name it her name is always associated to some type of hatred it just was like i don't know one i have no idea who this lady is but even more why why does everyone hate her like what did she do that's so terrible and honestly i just i think it's one i call it the kardashian syndrome where everyone just kind of hates the kardashians to hate I'm not a fan. I will say very outwardly, I'm not a Kardashian fan either. But I am very intrigued as to who is this woman and what she did to make the world hate her. So I'm just kind of following it with my left eye, not really giving it too much attention. But it is something that is on my radar. So Julia Fox is the actor from Uncut Gems. Uncut Joms.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Yeah, Uncut Joms. and is really good in that movie really uh good in a steven soderbergh movie that i can't remember the name of uh there was like a period piece that came out fairly recently and and she dated kind of Kanye. And I think that's when people were like, no. Yeah. Oh, okay. I feel like it's just general. You know, there have been some quotes that people have pulled and been like, see, Julia Fox is the worst but the longer i've done a a job that requires me to pay attention to the news the more i realize that you can make anyone seem like anything by pulling the right quote right and this just feels like a lot of heat to me that like i don't know it's coming from not necessarily the
Starting point is 00:10:01 the most well-intentioned places and people. 100%. And also when the spotlight is cast upon you so rapidly, so quickly, it's like, who is ready for that moment precisely? And all of the random baiting questions that get thrown at you, it's like every opportunity is an opportunity for someone to be like, well, let's maybe reveal something stupid about this person so we can sauce them on the internet for a week straight. It's just unfair. I would say John is ready for the spotlight, but nobody else that I've ever encountered. Facts.
Starting point is 00:10:35 I'm ready. Yeah. During your search, did you come up with any opinion or you're just monitoring? You're just letting the world know you're on it i'm just i'm just monitoring it i don't think i really have a position i think it's just one of those things oh gosh i'm probably gonna get in a lot of trouble you see i keep i'm gonna i'm gonna step in some mud here i don't care about like white women enough to like follow them like white lady things and i feel like this is a very white lady conversation
Starting point is 00:11:06 and so like i opened the the article and i was like oh whatever bye like it just okay it didn't feel like it was enough for me to actually like engage in the conversation like if someone like i mean beyonce everyone knows i'm a huge beyonce fan i'm gonna engage in that conversation but like with like julia fox and the world hating her it's like oh so sorry lady you're rich and people don't like you oh well so that's kind of what the conversation was for me it was just i poked my head in looked around and was like oh another white lady on the internet that people don't like all right gotta go like it just it felt like i had more better things to do. So, yeah. What is something you think is underrated? So, I had tweeted something about this yesterday.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I find on social media that there are a lot of people who always want to be the smartest person in the room. The underrated thing for me is sometimes it's okay to not have a thought, an opinion, or a hot take. Like, it's okay for you to not be the smartest person in the room. Like, I even said, I have a doctorate degree, and I don't even pretend to act like I know everything. Like, I's okay for you to not be the smartest person in the room. Like I even said, I have a doctorate degree and I don't even pretend to act like I know everything. Like, I just don't. Like, I genuinely will speak on things that I think need to be spoken on. And then there are just some things that I'm just like, I don't really have an opinion on that. Like, I just don't care.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And I think we really need to, like, I feel like if we were more invested in not always trying to be the smartest person on the Internet. Yes. I feel like the Internet would more invested in not always trying to be the smartest person on the Internet. Yes. I feel like the Internet would be a much more enjoyable place. I think that's such a novel idea to not say something when you have no idea what you're talking about. Yep. have seen a thought that maybe speaks or puts to words your opinion in a way that's informed and smart and said by someone who has done the research. And rather than simply parent what they're saying in your own words that are going to come out stilted or maybe not 100% baked, I just hit the old retweet. And then you know what you do? You give that person the power,
Starting point is 00:13:02 you like give that person the platform and the stage. And you know what? You can leave your voice out of it. So I really appreciate that. And I simply do that a lot. That part. I simply will just say that part or, oh my gosh, this is awesome. Or like, I am so glad someone finally said it.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Like, you don't always have to be that person to regurgitate an idea. And it's just, but you know what? I think what i was more speaking to there is someone that i engage with on internet on on the insta insta like twitter just everywhere and this person always seems to want to take your thought in like like well what do you mean here what do you do and i'm like okay i'm not doing this so i have them muted now but it's one of those like that's what i was specifically speaking to was those individuals who always seem to want to like engage in something that and make it more than what it really is it's really
Starting point is 00:13:54 so yeah and that person right now is repeatedly asking you but what do you mean no seriously like right here what do you mean what do you like just in a in a vacuum, just in the vacuum of space by themselves? Just I got to say, just as an addendum, I have made it my job with this podcast, part of my job to be the dumbest person in the room with like a really brilliant series of co-hosts or miles when he's around and just brilliant guests and that is highly thank you so much that is a wonderful you know you learn you get better and you just openly embrace your your stupidity i highly recommend it it's fun sometimes to embrace that what is something you think is overrated so i went back and forth with this i had another thought right before i got on my peloton bike and i said to myself social media instagram fit culture it's overrated and what i mean by that is i have no i have people constantly so i post daily like what what rides I take on my Peloton,
Starting point is 00:15:06 just because I have a lot of friends who are always like, I don't have enough time to really like curate a ride. Like, can you tell me what rides or who you think is the best? So I just post my stuff in my stories for my friends to see. Well, what ends up happening is, is when I post in my stories or when I post on my like actual page all of these
Starting point is 00:15:26 instagram social media like fits and follower people will come and be like do you want to lose weight do you want to do this and it's like no i actually don't want to lose weight i just write my peloton because i am black fat and queer and i live in a world that hates me and i have to do something to get all of this energy out and so i I'm always kind of like, just leave me alone. And so one of the thoughts that I had connected to that is, it's just how awful a lot of the Instagram fit culture is. And I was just thinking to myself, a lot of them are angry because they're hungry. Like you rag on people like myself because you have an attitude because you have not been able to eat. All you've had today is a carrot and some air. because you have not been able to eat.
Starting point is 00:16:04 All you've had today is a carrot and some air. Like, get away from me. Like, leave me alone. Don't be mad at me because I enjoyed two tacos yesterday and you couldn't do that, right? So I don't know. I'm just, I'm really over Instagram fit culture. I'm over this idea that starving yourself is like going to make you somehow better.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I'd rather just eat because who knows when we're all going to get hit by an asteroid right it's it's coming very fast so i'm just kind of like i'm here and i i don't want to be hungry when that happens definitely agreed on the eating part i'm with that a thousand percent just eat do it what is something you've learned from you you kind of alluded to sort of the premise of BFF and like, you know, feeling like society hates you. What is something that like you've learned from making the show? Wow. Now I feel like Beyonce.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Whoa. What am I asking? No. What have I learned from making the, uh, from the podcast? I think for me, it's, you know, there's, there's something in this world where it's like, we all find, I feel like I'm getting ready to go into my speaker voice, but we all, we all kind of learn how to talk about things that we're passionate about. And we all learn how to kind of like stand in our authenticity in some type of way.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Right. Like there are people who authentically stand in the authenticity in some type of way right like there are people who authentically stand in the idea that having an android is a good idea like there are people who have ideas that you know you know certain foods or certain artists are great or whatever right we learn to stand in that authenticity in a way and i think for me kind of being serious like this podcast really allowed me to say i'm'm going to put all of me in front of this mic and I'm going to leave it there in a way that no one has ever done. And it didn't hit me until actually one of the really big, important people from iHeart called me and said, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:56 I just wanted to check in and see how the podcast is going. But I really want to make sure that I reiterate how like revolutionary this is. Do know that there are very few podcasts anywhere that are specifically focusing on intersectionality in the way that you're doing it. And so that kind of like blew my mind that it's like, I'm really putting myself out there in front of a microphone for people and really standing in that in a way that for years I was so afraid to do. And I think that that for me is the one thing that I learned. Like once you've learned to fully accept who you are and you tell the world you're going to get it, whether you like it or not, how much better the world for yourself becomes. So, yeah. Amazing. Have you felt that bleed over to personal, just as somebody who is more outgoing on mic than in personal settings?
Starting point is 00:18:45 Like, is that something that you feel you've been able to kind of incorporate into the rest of your life? Or I don't know, I was just curious as you were describing that. I think for me, the bigger part is being comfortable with being non-binary. There was a moment, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:03 like when I first got my nails done, when I was really nervous about how people were going to interact with me. It was the first time I ever wore heels, the first time that I ever really wore, because, you know, most places don't carry clothes in my size. So the first time that I ever like ordered from Shein and found something I was really comfortable in and wore it, it was just, there are moments where I have to kind of like check myself and say, this is who you are. And this is what people are just going to have to deal with. And I think that that's what, you know, the Black Fat Femme podcast is, is you're getting a very, like I said, not even just authentic, but you're getting a real take on what it's like to be me
Starting point is 00:19:37 in a world where it's like, I constantly have to kind of like, in different conversations, it's like, you can only be Black, or you can only be queer, or you can only be black or you can only be queer or you can only be fat you can't be all three right like there's no there there are very few spaces that i feel like i can talk about what that journey is and so when it when i'm talking about the idea that it costs an arm and a leg for me to go buy something from torrent and having my co-hosts be like yeah girl torrent's clothes are terrible but did you hear about this that place actually does really well for non-binary people. Like that kind of stuff is what this podcast is. And so I'm just really excited to finally be able to be in a place where like I feel like I fully accepted myself and said, you know, while y'all are laughing at me, I'm laughing to the bank.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Because now I have a pretty decent, you know, my bank account looks nice because I get to be my authentic self. And so that's the thing I think for me where it's bleeding over that I can actually afford to shop at places that carry 4X and 5X. Amazing. Well, everybody needs to go check it out. It's truly an amazing show. BFF Black Femme, its first episode is out today. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and
Starting point is 00:20:47 we will talk with super producer Trisha. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members and others whose lives and careers have been impacted just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
Starting point is 00:22:04 When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner.
Starting point is 00:22:29 The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:23:18 I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, everyone. I am Lacey Lamar. And I'm Amber Ruffin, a better Lacey Lamar. Boo. Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. You thought you had fun last season?
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Starting point is 00:24:50 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we are back and we are thrilled to be joined by super producer trisha mukherji trisha how are you doing hello i'm doing really well it was my mom's birthday yesterday my phone is still with me but i lost it several times check but it was like minor more minor incidents and the elevator incident and the kid taking incident. Right. Trisha lost her phone through the tiny little slot, like the almost geometrically impossible task of losing her phone through the slot between the elevator and the floor.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And then a child like stole her phone and tried to take it away from her within the span of two days. Yes. her phone and try to take it away from her within the span of two days. And I've been telling her she needs to get rid of it. That phone is trying to escape for a reason, but that's probably not good advice. Also, I interrupted you, but you were saying it was your mom's birthday. Happy birthday to your mom. Oh, thank you. She'll be thrilled to hear that. She's a big fan. Oh, thank you. She'll be thrilled to hear that. She's a big fan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:15 All right. Let's talk about your first story as the Daily Zeitgeist correspondent, Super Producer Tricia. What have you got for us? Yay. Okay. Thank you for having me. So the story that I have today is about the general topic of suing companies that are polluting our air, water, etc., producing a lot of carbon emissions. And so the specific case that got me into this topic was a Peruvian farmer who lives near Juarez, which is a city in the western part of Peru. And this farmer's name is Saul Luciano Llullia, and he's suing a German utility company called RWE. So it's quite an interesting case because he, I guess his basis for the lawsuit is that RWE has been producing 0.47% of the cumulative global industrial emissions of carbon and methane between 1751 and 2010. And 0.47 isn't a lot, like that's a kind of tiny number. But his claim is that because the emissions from this company's activities are leading to
Starting point is 00:27:18 ice avalanches and glaciers melting, and the lake near his city is rising and threatening to flood his city and cause a lot of damages, RWE should pay 0.47% of the cost of repairs and also protection from climate change. Now again, for RWE, that is a tiny amount of money. It comes out to around 20,000 euros and their total profit is 24.5 billion euros in just one year in 2021. So to them, it's nothing more than a rounding error. But this case is quite interesting because it sets a precedent of can I sue a company that's based half the world away for causing emissions that don't really have boundaries in who they affect and when they affect people and how they affect people. Am I right in that? And in addition, how do we use this method to hold polluters accountable?
Starting point is 00:28:18 I'm sure we can get into this more, but it's very hard to prove that for this farmer that RWE is the direct cause of the glacier melting near his house and that causing the flooding. So in addition to that burden of proof, there's a lot of complications where these companies have so much money, so much legal power behind them. And so instead of being like, okay, we'll pay and help you with this thing that you're struggling with, they sue you back. And then you have to protect yourself against them instead of working on suing them for the damages that they've caused. So yeah, we can get into that more later but it's just it's it's an interesting strategy especially since we've seen so much failure from our governments in terms of protecting us from
Starting point is 00:29:12 climate change so if we can't rely on them is this one way that we can try to address it i'm curious to hear your thoughts is did did they pick rwe because Germany has favorable laws? Because I'm just looking at the global emitters, 1988 to 2015, and they've got Chinese coal as the number one with 14%, but then you've got Saudi Aramco, Gazprom of Russia, ExxonMobil is at number five with 2%. Right. of Russia. ExxonMobil is at number five with like 2%. So I'm just curious because like that is the main issue I see. Like I know the story of Steven Donziger, who successfully sued Chevron in Ecuador, won a massive lawsuit because they were like directly like killing people with their... Literally. Yeah, just like dumping poison into the environment of indigenous people down there and he sued them won a case down there and then chevron basically made his life so miserable that he was on house arrest for like a couple years and so that's i think that is my the question that pops up for me is like
Starting point is 00:30:27 are we like going to just be able to like pick international companies apart like using this and like how do we bring it back to u.s companies like chevron right i mean it is like it does seem like one of the things that we need to figure out. Right. To get something to change. Right. Exactly. Well, so in this case, they chose RWE, I believe, because they're still operating some coal plants.
Starting point is 00:30:57 So that's one of the reasons. And another reason is just because they are working with German lawyers who are familiar with the judicial system in Germany and the laws there. But I think, yeah, it's totally inbounds to sue these American companies and all the other companies based around the world for the percentage of emissions that they would be causing. Right. So when you sue, what are we specifically suing for are we is it funds or is like i i don't the the suit itself like i'm trying to understand what the logic is of suing the company are they having to pay for cleaner energy like what is it specifically are we trying to get out of the lawsuit right right so in some previous cases there's been lawsuits that are like the companies need to be held accountable and need to promise that they're going to lower
Starting point is 00:31:53 their emissions and there have been successful lawsuits like that but they say that this is one of the first lawsuits that's suing a company that's not even in the vicinity of the person's home who's suing but the the lawsuit is for damages and protection so for example to build a wall around the city so that flood water doesn't get in or if houses get destroyed they should pay for that damage as well so but you can imagine like if everyone was to sue each like energy company that was causing emissions that affected us that could be a lot on them and it's quite interesting in this article i mean clearly people in these regions especially are suffering from the effects of climate change but there's people from the UN and all these other
Starting point is 00:32:45 companies that are just saying, like, this is a direct quote from this Financial Times article, the rules about a company's obligations should be set by regulators and businesses should be sure that if they follow them in good faith, they're a safe harbor and they won't be sued. So it's basically saying, like, the company should have this responsibility to just kind of go along and everyone will be fine. But clearly that hasn't happened ever in the past. That's literally their like their mode of operation. So yeah. I'm just wondering what kind of precedent this sets for the future because, you know, the whole idea of law is, you know, having cases that get ruled one way or the other, and that's setting the precedent for future cases that come forward. So if we are able to sort of
Starting point is 00:33:31 set even some sort of minor precedent that suing a company for damages, you know, can result in a, you know, $20,000 that you said it was setting, you know, a $20,000 case, obviously, that's not a lot of money but climate change affects everybody and if one person has that kind of has sets that precedent of you know damage is being done to my community everybody in the community has has that same precedent everybody in the community has that same reasoning and everyone around the world has a very similar reasoning. So maybe as opposed to it being a singular greater sum, it's, you know, death by a thousand cuts, or death by like seven billion cuts, where everybody on the planet is like, oh, we have a precedent to sue, you know, Exxon Mobil for $20,000. Well, guess what? I'm about to get mine and run them out of business. Because you're right, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:21 the idea that these companies are going to take it upon themselves to fix things, because you're right. You know, the idea that these companies are going to take it upon themselves to fix things, you know, they're not. They're going to just, they'll lobby to get the laws changed so that they don't fix it before they actually fix anything.
Starting point is 00:34:34 So I guess I'm curious, do you think this kind of opens the floodgates for a bunch of other kind of small lawsuits to kill these companies slowly? I think absolutely it does. And now this case hasn't been decided yet. They expect that there'll be a conclusion next year. And I think it definitely does open the possibility of it. But this case has had a research team collecting evidence for so many months. It's quite expensive. I mean, they've been fundraising through like a grassroots effort and crowdfunding and that sort of thing. So I think it sets a really important precedent,
Starting point is 00:35:20 but there's still a lot of obstacles for the everyday person to be able to sue a big company. But I also wonder if as this gets more common, there'll be more infrastructure for us as citizens to use that ability. law to be decided without all the extra like litigation similarly you know we set a a kind of a tactic to how we do our research into these things what information is most needed and kind of allow us to fast track finding the proper information to nail down these companies for what they've done yeah cool i i was saying earlier like i i am skeptical that this could ever work in America because of the Donziger story. And just like, we usually don't even find stories in U.S. like corporate media that criticize corporations like to the degree that, you know, the corporations would not approve of. So like the idea that the Supreme Court down through like the U.S. justice system would allow something that completely dismantles these corporations, I feel like is wishful thinking. But you did like find these examples where citizen suits have effectively been used in the U.S., right? Right. So I'll just read a few examples. So in Washington, a citizen suit like this forced dairies to clean up the sewage from thousands of cows that seeped into local
Starting point is 00:36:54 aquifers, polluting the community's drinking water. In Texas, there was a successful suit against Exxon for contaminating the air with 10 million pounds of pollution. And then Ohio, there was another case where a citizen sued an airport for illegal discharges of fluids into streams and creeks. And then that also led to a lot of other citizen suits against airports for the same reason. So yeah, those were some successful instances. I think they're quite interesting because they're very local. Like, yeah, Maybe the Exxon one is a bit different, but they're very local. I think it's different to sue a company that's all the way across the world. notes that that was the largest penalty resulting from a citizen suit in u.s history like that it'll be interesting to like dig into that and figure out like did they actually get them to pay did they just sue the lawyer of the uh of the citizens who were suing like in the uh donziger chevron ecuador case but yeah what can you talk about the countersuits, the slaps?
Starting point is 00:38:08 Appropriately named slaps. Yeah. Like, can you believe this? So basically when companies face these citizen suits, they launch this thing, which is a strategic lawsuit against public participation. And the acronym for that is a slap. So they just slap these people who are suing them it's not a punch it's not a punch it's just a just a light little like a rick james yeah just a light little slap across the face just the most disrespectful way that you can deal with criticism like i don't even challenge you to a duel yeah exactly yeah so a slap is basically like let's let's say jack is suing me because i'm a polluting company i'm worried that
Starting point is 00:38:58 jack is giving me bad publicity so instead i sued jack forbel, defamation, and maybe say that he's lying. And so then when I have my millions and millions of dollars spent on this legal case against Jack, who only has a tiny bit of money to sue me, he's maneuvering all his resources away to protecting himself instead of continuing to sue me and expose me and show the rest of the world like how damaging my actions are so then jack has effectively you know if he fights my slap he counterslaps me and that is becoming even more and more common but as you can see it's just kind of a big distraction from the actual problem. I mean, in the U.S., everyone is suing everyone for everything. And this is just an extension of that, where instead of focusing on the actual existential threat at hand, it's slaps and counterslaps and more counterslaps and just keeps going and going so in the u.s also we have a long history of the
Starting point is 00:40:08 corporate media like telling these stories and and then they become urban legends but this the urban legends that we hear about corporations bad shit to people and people suing them are often treated like the everybody knows the mcdonald's story person spills hot coffee on themselves and sues mcdonald's and it's always it had traditionally been held up as a story of you know how the legal system is out of control and you know just lazy greedy people can just use the court to sue and get the thing. And the truth is that like that person was burned very badly and McDonald's was serving their coffee at certain locations at a temperature that was actively like really harming people. And it was incredibly important that they started regulating that.
Starting point is 00:41:04 And the thing that got them to start regulating that was when people started suing them but the way i just feel like america is so thoroughly steeped in corporate like policy corporate culture that even even stories about people suing corporations for doing them harm are treated as are like reframed. And I don't have any evidence that like Bloomberg and The New York Times conspired with McDonald's to like make that the story. But I just feel like it's, you know, America's immune system like attacks anything that is like remotely left wing or has any anti-corporate bias like and immediately like turns it on itself like it's almost like the singularity has happened and it is capitalism yeah and just one other thing about this case is that there's yeah in this case it's kind of an individual versus a company. And they're both outside the US. And yeah, the US, as you thinking, how can we use this precedent that's being set?
Starting point is 00:42:27 Like, can we sue big countries and rich nations that have a lot of polluters and profit from these companies' actions? And yeah, or can we sue the companies directly? Rich nations in 2009 promised to give developing nations $100 billion a year by 2020 to mitigate damage from climate change. But this goal hasn't been met, and it's also vastly inadequate. So that's kind of a big issue. But there's these small island nations like Tuvalu and Antigua and Barbuda. And if the seas just rise a little bit more, they'll literally be underwater. So, I mean, they could potentially get help by just, again, suing these companies or suing the richer nations for not fulfilling their promises. And that could just literally save entire countries. I think the U.S. system is bureaucratic and complicated and insensitive, as is the global system and how wealthier nations take advantage of poorer nations and don't fulfill promises,
Starting point is 00:43:34 don't give them the help that they deserve after just long legacies of colonialism. So, yeah, they just marry each other in that sense. Yeah. I mean, this piece has given me a lot of hope. And, you know, I think a lot of my skepticism about the U.S. system is like that traditionally it's been headed by a Supreme Court that is for the past, you know, century very pro-corporation. But that's going to change as people, as like countries start disappearing under the ocean like entire nations. I do feel like public opinion on these sorts of things will change and this will eventually be be a way to to go about attacking these companies and making'll ever be part of the solution, but at least making them fuck off and leave. Stop contributing to the problem. Just slap them away. Just slap them away. Slap them away.
Starting point is 00:44:36 That is, I feel like the slap is intentional, right? Like they've created that to be like, oh, it's all just, we're just involved in a little slap fight here. It's like, no, you are. An entire side of a mountain fell off and created a horrifying landslide that destroyed entire villages you you monsters anyways you monsters kim people are dying yes yeah actively right actively yeah well trisha great having you on thank you for for bringing the story to us.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Yeah. Thank you so much for having me. We'll have you back soon. Great. All right. We're going to take a break and then we're going to come back and talk about those sea lions that came at people. That wasn't on the list, but it is now because I have watched the video and it is awesome. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:28 The other way that nature is fighting back. Ah, there we go. I knew it was coming. I was going to say, yes, the way nature is fighting back. And we talked, I think somebody said safe harbor before. Well, this is no safe harbor, people. This is an unsafe harbor of seals. No, they're sea lions.
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Starting point is 00:49:45 available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Daniel, I will leave it to you you you brought this clip to the the doc and joyfully i did because as as tricia so so brilliantly pointed out we are doing our best to fight against the things that are directly affecting our climate with lawsuits and protests and everything we can do and tricia thank you so much for that incredible story. But let me tell you, nature is taking it into their own hands. The sea lions are revolting. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:50:32 I appreciate that. That was a little human-centric, and I apologize to all of our animal listeners for that one. But our era as alpha predators is grinding to a halt. Pack up your bags, humans. The sea lions have decided our time is over. But yes, so this footage that many have seen, it was a very viral video that was on the internet, on that Twitter, on the Instagram, even on the TikTok potentially. Footage from La Jolla Cove in San Diego. Two sea lions chasing people down off the beach. Some people grabbing their stuff
Starting point is 00:51:03 and heading for the hills. Others just kind of gently scooting out the way the sea lions were not exactly like moving super fast but they were moving fast enough that people were like oh oh oh oh and kind of making their way out of the beach they seem to be it looked like it was a concerted like pre-planned military sweep like the way they came and they were like in parallel and just moving across the beach and it was yeah in sync it was in sync they were saying bye bye bye to all the beach goers right there thank you very much okay so now there's two perspectives on this story and i want to throw them both out there. So one of them comes from a spokesperson from SeaWorld, classically canceled SeaWorld, says this of the incident. You would really only notice
Starting point is 00:51:49 if you watch a lot of sea lion behavior. Yeah, okay. But the fact that one jumps in the water and the other does so quickly after shows they are following one another. So I think what they're trying to do is placate all the scary people who are like, those sea lions, all the pearl clutchers who were saying those sea lions came to attack me.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And SeaWorld's trying to say, oh, no, no, no. They were playing and just following each other around. But that's a bunch of baloney. Because if you go to the quote from our friend who actually filmed the incident, they say the sea lions were sleeping and were just massive on the beach and i was watching them and this woman got really close to them crucial note this woman got really close to them like four feet away and was trying to take a photo of it up close and it just woke up and started chasing everybody and let me just say that's it right there this is um sea world once again just a quick note that or sorry uh yeah san dieWorld once again. Just a quick note that, or sorry, yeah, San Diego, SeaWorld.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Just a quick note that they were actually playing Duck, Duck, Goose. Yes. So she was the goose. They were duck-ducking after her. The sea lions were completely on it. Big hands of Duck, Duck, Goose. They were just playing. It was just fun.
Starting point is 00:53:02 No need to be worried. Come to SeaWorld. Have you seen the size of their teeth like there is just something right like it's just something alarming about like i wouldn't even want to be no yes like they stink why would you get that close this whoever everybody on that beach deserved it that day everybody could not agree. This smacks of people's relationship with hippos. Hippos are one of the most dangerous animals in the world. They classically kill some of the most humans ever because people see them and they go, hungry, hungry hippos.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. No. Hippos are large. They are fast. They are dangerous. They will chomp you up. And sea lions may not be as fast or quite as large but they are still big they throw it around they have teeth and they will get at you and it's a little bit of like what are you doing what are
Starting point is 00:53:52 you doing messing with nature walking up to this gentle beast that per this account was sleeping on the beach literally could have just left it alone but then someone decides to go up because they want to snap a selfie trying to get the content and they get what's coming to them frankly it is deserved that's all i gotta say about that don't fuck with the animals truly hippos hippos are up there yeah they are 500 people killed a year and you know dogs are up there as well. True. Which... The nature of the amount of dogs around, of course. Right. It's cuteness. Cuteness is the danger.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Like, people are like, oh my god, a hippo. Yeah. They're picturing the hippo the hippos from Fantasia in tutus, like, dancing and being fun little goofs. And yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:48 We really need to leave animals alone. Like I'm just, I'm happy that you know, our elephants are getting their time. Yes. Sea lions. We have hippos that are checking people. I'm just happy that somewhere out there, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:04 Simba and his father said, get these people together. And I'm here for it. I am so here for it. I would love to imagine that Mufasa appeared in the clouds above those sea lions and said, it is your time. Take the beach. And they were like, Mufasa's right. We got to do this thing. And Foss is right.
Starting point is 00:55:21 We got to do this thing. I think the thing that's taking me down is the fact that when I saw them galloping, it was like they were sweeping the beach. Literally. Exactly. They literally were sweeping the beach. Like, get out of here. Like, it's just, I can't. I can't.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Yeah. They weren't like, we want one of you gone. We want the person who was trying to take a picture with me while I was sleeping gone. We want all of you systemically off this fucking beach right now and forevermore. Sea lions are tired of Karens, too. Yes. Very. Please take a video so your people see this shit, too. Okay?
Starting point is 00:56:00 Yes. Get the content. Man, I'm just looking at the deadliest creatures worldwide by annual number of human deaths as of 2018. Okay. Snakes, I'd say, are the, you know, mosquitoes have the most, 750,000. Snakes are at 100,000. Snakes are as advertised. Snakes, you know, I think people like well it's not snakes aren't that
Starting point is 00:56:25 bad but there's a there's some bad snakes you know i think i think those snakes fall into the category of like ever present but you don't think about it especially with mosquitoes mosquitoes especially it's like carrying that malaria everywhere you're like oh right i guess they do kill a bunch of people and snakes everywhere as well but then you line it up against more like classically like dangerous animals, like shark attacks, or like lion attacks, or like these are these big ferocious beasts that are out there in the world, maybe killing like a couple people like very rare to see a shark attack, six, very rare for a shark attack, even though there's some of the most like deadly animals in the world. But then you get a hippo and a hippo is just outclassing your lions and your tigers your bears oh my by a large extent and it's like you have to give hippos
Starting point is 00:57:12 sea lions the credit they deserve they are they deserve their space so give it to them something called assassin bugs 12 000 i don't even know what that is but that i guess we should have known with that name that scares me but yeah i mean sharks are definitely the number one threat animal threat based on movies oh they're at the very bottom of the list that's good that's good shark pr honestly we need to get that in the mix yeah swim the sharks they killed the least people we've been we've been trying but all right uh let's talk about bloomberg bloomberg's top cities for singles to relocate to and it's a list of 10 the number one city is wichita kansas followed by Austin, also on the list, San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas, all in the top 10, as is Milwaukee. So we've got five states that are in reliably deep red states, five cities that are in reliably deep red states.
Starting point is 00:58:17 It feels like an article that was made 20 years ago, maybe. 20 years ago maybe but yeah we can't move to especially single people can't move to reliably red states like kansas or fucking texas like now that yeah they don't have autonomy over their own bodies like what what are you it's it that when you read the article it's all based on rent price literally i was gonna say this is literally one metric here and it is rent price yeah yeah and they also advertise wichita kansas as halfway between manhattan and san francisco as if it's like oh a convenient waypoint between these two huge cities we're talking in the middle of an enormous country it's like well you can take a three-hour flight in either direction to get to these places. That's not halfway between what and what. Come on now. They also forgot to say you have to
Starting point is 00:59:10 be white because a lot of these places are not safe for marginalized or minoritized people. Seeing that, I'm looking around going, I wonder what the violence number looks like there.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Yeah. I do want to specify, not saying give these states or these cities up. I think that has been a big reaction to the Roe thing is like, we'll just move. And that's not not a solution shout out to wichita which held a rally this weekend for a august election that's going to determine if the constitution outright bans abortion and the turnout was very inspiring but just that that is not mentioned once in a thing where the title of the article and the main thing is like this is where singles should go to mingle it's like what okay all right and finally there's an article on the takeout about someone
Starting point is 01:00:17 coming to the terms oh man uh with her favorite form of burrito consumption, discovering that it's not just her. I want to invite listeners to share their own so that we may help you find your people. So the form of burrito consumption in question involves creating a hole in the tortilla, sucking the insides out until it's just like a flaccid tortilla, like an empty sleeping bag, like Go-Gurt style. Yeah. Go-Gurt style. And yeah, it made me think of Vincent D'Onofrio's Edgar and Men in Black,
Starting point is 01:00:58 minus the part where he wears around the skin of his prey. Imagine you suck down your burrito and then put the burrito skin over your face. I am the burrito. They don't mention if that is part of the process that they do with their burrito. So we don't know, but I'm guessing not. That's just the Buffalo
Starting point is 01:01:18 Bill style activity you do after the fact. You don't tell anybody about that, but you're in your bedroom. Burrito mask. You have the burrito over your face. Would you eat me? of your face would you eat me right eat me yeah i don't know i so i've talked about how i big mac my oreos to get the perfect cream to cookie ratio that's just smart the so oreos regular ore, not sweet enough for me. So I have three cookies per two creams when you Big Mac your Oreo. And that is something I do quietly when nobody else is around. I'm not at a party Big Macing my Oreos.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Totally. Proudly. I do it. Yeah, there you go. You do? No, I said I do it. Oh, okay. i do okay i am that person that i have no shame no i've not thought about it that way but i i do it i have no shame in eating things the way i want to eat things thank you yeah jack i support that thank you stand in your oreo-ness stand in it that means so much we need more parties where we actually
Starting point is 01:02:27 have collections of snacks that people can modify to their own liking it's all meat and cheese plates and it's like that's fine but like how are you going to do you know meat and cheese a little differently you're not going to be like well actually i wrap the cheese around the meat it's like oh isn't that cool it's like no give It's like, no, give me a bunch of Oreos. Give me a big old thing of sour cream. I don't know. Get some pretzels. Just mix all. Get a whole bunch of snacks in there. Be like, how do you do this kind of stuff? Because it's all about
Starting point is 01:02:54 how we approach these snacks differently. That makes them fun and gives everybody an opportunity to consume in a fun manner. I'm just trying to think of fun. By the way, Oreos are vegan. Yeah, they are. Oh, that's right. Oreos are vegan. Yeah, it stops with the animal lard at some point. Love
Starting point is 01:03:09 that. Good for Oreos. Daniel, did you say you had your own? I do have my own weird eating habits that I've talked about many times before. My favorite is my consumption of hummus and goldfish. I will take my spoonful. I will have a bowl of hummus or just the hummus receptacle itself. Shout out Trader Joe's. And I'll get a bowl of goldfish. I'll take my spoon and take a spoonful of hummus and then
Starting point is 01:03:30 just dip that spoonful of hummus into the bowl of goldfish and make myself a little goldfish hummus lollipop and just eat that little goldfish bomb. Goldfish sprinkles on a hummus lollipop. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And some people are people are like what but let me tell you something no better way to consume those two things at the same time you get a good amount of crisp a little bit of that cheesy flavor the salt mix them with the hummus how else are you going to get those things that you can't be taking a little goldfish and dipping it in the hummus get the hummus all over your fingies there and then you got to do that gross like licking your fingers while you're doing it. Yeah, it's safe. It's sanitary.
Starting point is 01:04:05 And it's a great way to consume hummus with goldfish. And I will be taking questions now. You are correct. That is that is the correct way to eat those two things in combination. I think other people would claim, well, I just don't eat them then together. That's they're lying. I have eaten them together and I have gotten the hummus on the fingies and it's not great it's not a proud moment i will say also like with chips and salsa
Starting point is 01:04:32 it's the only way to eat the bottom of the chip bag with the salsa is to spoon of salsa drop the chip crumbles on the top and then eat it like cereal or or full-on cereal it and just pour the rest of the bag into the slowly lessening receptacle of salsa and just you know scoop out yeah i can't get on board with that unfortunately well you know what then we are on different planes but let me tell you something when my chip bag gets low i'm dumping it into the bowl with the hum with the hummus or the salsa or whatever. It's going down. I'm scooping it out with a spoon. I'm eating it. It's going down.
Starting point is 01:05:10 It's going down. It's going down. For real. Well, Zeitgang, this is a call to arms. Let us know any food consumption habits that you are ashamed of that you don't want to share with the world.
Starting point is 01:05:25 You can feel free to remain anonymous or that you're not ashamed of. But just, you know, let's find our people. You know, let's share with the world. Well, John, truly a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff well when i'm not
Starting point is 01:05:47 stalking my uh local crispy green hell yes you can find me on social media by using the handle at dr john paul you have to spell doctor d-o-c-t-o-r j-o-n-p-a-L. And yeah, that's, and my website, www.drjohnpaul.com. Yeah, yeah. And where can they hear you? One more time. Yeah, you can hear me every Tuesday starting today on the Black Fat Femme podcast, a production by iHeartMedia. Boom. And it is, yeah, it's going to be in your ear.
Starting point is 01:06:27 So yeah, I'll be on the podcast there. And I'm just really excited. Thank you so much for having me. This has truly been a dream come true. Oh, amazing. It was so wonderful having you. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media that you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:06:43 Yes. So I, some other work i love it account also a good friend of mine risha tweeted people be like believe in yourself then be like but not that much i thought that that was just genius yeah so that's really the only tweet that has really made me go, you know what? I see it and I support it. I love it. DJ Dano.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Yes, sir. Thank you again for all your guest hosting service. Jeez. Always a pleasure. Thank you. Where can people find you and follow you?
Starting point is 01:07:20 And is there a tweet that you've been enjoying? You absolutely can. And there's two tweets, but you can follow me at DJj underscore danil that's d-a-n-l on all the social medias and especially on twitch where i like to embarrass myself three times a week wednesdays fridays and sundays i hope you sure do come through it's a lot of fun we do the streaming thing there and i have two tweets uh one is related to the whole shinzo abe thing where they were accidentally accusing hideo Kojima,
Starting point is 01:07:45 the brilliant game designer of being the one that killed Shinzo Abe. And the tweet is Hideo Kojima gets accused of assassinating Shinzo Abe and he's probably just watching the 4k release of flubber or something. And that is facts that dude is a movie nerd. And he was for sure in the middle of watching minions rise of grew and was like what anyway and the second tweet is from vinnie thomas at v-i-n-n underscore a-y-y i love vinnie thomas and the suite is when a goldfish has a castle and a treasure chest okay dynastic wealth love vinnie thomas anyway okay uh and and that's me and i hope you uh hope you have a great rest of your day. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:08:28 I've been enjoying a couple tweets. Icy Hot Patch tweeted, Sorry, I can't hang out. I have to itch the mosquito bite on my ankle until I reach bone. Hannah Jo tweeted, I'm going Elvis mode.
Starting point is 01:08:43 The parentheses about to die on my toilet. People are funny. People are funny. Oh, and then Andrew Nadeau, N-A-D-E-A-U at the Andrew Nadeau.
Starting point is 01:09:03 I should learn how to pronounce this person's name because I read their tweets very often. They're very funny. Tweeted, people are like, we know less about the deep ocean than the moon. Good. Have you seen what's down there? It's terrifying.
Starting point is 01:09:17 We should know as little about it as possible. The entire reason to go to space is to get farther from the ocean. Which I think is a good response to that. That is good. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer, Justin, what is a song that you think people might enjoy that we can link off to on the footnotes? All right. Well,
Starting point is 01:09:57 we all know that we are fans of hiatus coyote at this podcast, but I want to recommend a track from napalm, the lead singer of hiatus coyote at this podcast but i want to recommend a track from napalm uh the lead singer of hiatus coyote she's doing like an acoustic rmb thing here and it's rare you listen to a song for the background singers and the way she plays off of them it's it's unbelievably uh soulful john i know you are not a fan of of listening to women, but there are exceptions to every rule. This woman is inspired by soul and North African music. And man, you can tell her background singers are just incredible. And this is a song called Crossfire Backslash So Into You. Because halfway through the song, the whole band switches to a different track by Tamiya and featuring fabulous the smash hit uh so into you
Starting point is 01:10:46 and it's it's an incredible melding of these two tracks and yeah you can find this song in the footnotes that's once again napalm crossfire backslash so into you in fact i love this song so much i may have recommended it before and you know you guys can feel free to let me know in the discord because i won't read it and i love the song anyway and you guys can feel free to let me know in the discord because I won't read it. And I love the song anyway. And you guys can check it out again and enjoy yourself. There you go. And you can thank me. All right.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Well, the Daily is that you guys is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending. And we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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