The Daily Zeitgeist - Secret Service So Sick, Renner-sance Continues 11.16.20

Episode Date: November 16, 2020

In episode 760, Jack and Miles are joined by correspondent and host of VICE News Reports podcast Arielle Duhaime-Ross to discuss the Trump administration members continue to test positive for Covid, Rand Paul spreading misinformation, the nightmare election scenario Trump wants, Disney executives wanting Disneyland to re-open, a new Jeremy Renner drop, Miles' Netflix reviews, and more!FOOTNOTES: More than 130 Secret Service officers are said to be infected with coronavirus or quarantining in wake of Trump’s campaign travel Rand Paul: We have 11 million people in our country who have already had COVID. We should tell them to celebrate. We should tell them to throw away their masks, go to restaurants, and live again because these people are now immune(they are not immune) Trump Floats Improbable Survival Scenarios as He Ponders His Future U.S. Justice Alito says pandemic has led to 'unimaginable' curbs on liberty GOP leaders: We’ll abide by popular vote, won’t give Michigan to Trump This is one of Trump’s biggest “whistle blowers” in Michigan. Disney executives rip California officials for keeping Disneyland closed amid coronavirus WATCH: Jeremy Renner - “Stereo Love” (Official Lyric Video) WATCH: Sango - Benue State Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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She says, make the fireflies dance, silvy moose is Barkley. So it is. And I always laugh at that part. So shout out to Snarls Barkley. And that a kiss. Shout out to them. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the brilliant, the talented,

Ariel Duom Ross. Hey, hey, hey. Hello. Hey, hey, hey.

Welcome. Bienvenue. Things are good. I'm kind of sad that I don't have any kind of theme music prepared for you guys i also am a little bit mad that i had to listen to that just now that was kind of painful miles especially um but i guess thank you for that yeah it's you're you're more than welcome uh this is what the listeners of our show put themselves through on the daily yeah yeah they are a hearty bunch.

They are. Oh, yeah. And they indulge us. It's an awful cycle. Yeah, they suggest these AKAs. Here, burn yourself up with this AKA. Yes. Very nice, very nice.

Arielle, where are you coming to us from? I am currently sitting in my Brooklyn apartment. Okay. Yeah. In my closet, specifically, if we want to be hyper-specific. Broadcast closet. I mean, it's sound-treated. It's very... You look like you're in an ISO booth.

I tried. I tried. I have some moving blankets over here. I have some foam panels on the other side. Got a lamp so I can finally see what the heck i'm doing when i'm recording it's good yeah you love to see it you love to see it you do kind of love to see it what's the weather like uh in brooklyn right now uh kind of coldish kind of rainy yeah okay it felt like last weekend like it was it warmer last weekend yeah and yeah because i feel like la

because i was like oh here we go it's 68 degrees bring out the beanies and down jackets and then like everyone new york was like it's party time yeah t-shirts flip-flops what are you talking about yeah opening up the uh fire hydrants the whole thing. Totally. Totally. That's exactly what happened last weekend. All right. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the continued spike in COVID, the spread both outside of this administration and inside the administration. Among Corey Lewandowski, there are 130 Secret Service agents quarantining right now. So we'll talk about that.

We're going to talk about Rand Paul. We're going to talk about Trump asking about using, you know, we only know what he's planning because he starts asking questions about it because he doesn't really know how things work. How do I steal this election? Yeah, exactly. So he asked about a thing that people have been scared about for a while, that he would convince Republican state legislatures

to send competing electors. But we'll talk about why we're not pissing our bed quite yet on that front to make a reference back to Miles' AKA. We will talk about the first woman and first Asian American GM of a pro sports team. We are going to talk about how it's never too early for the Biden

administration to start fucking up. We'll talk about Disney. Miles will review some Netflix shows. I will talk about some new offerings from the renaissance uh that i i don't know he's been he's been dropping music uh while we weren't looking and he i think he must be doing this on purpose because he is locking down such a specific aesthetic of just like cheesiness and bad lyricism that lyric writing that I just can't even express. So you're like Renner's on playing 4D chess right now?

Yeah, I think he's playing 4D chess. Okay, I like that. But first, Aria, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? So two things have been in my search history quite a bit this week. I've repeatedly searched for two specific things. One of them is just random pictures of animal poop.

There's a reason for this? Seriously. So I've been trying to identify what animal is pooping in my backyard in the same spot every night because my dog has developed an affinity for eating said poop um and it would be useful for me to know what animal so i know how to stop this animal from doing this in my yard every time it's probably cat poop and also you're right like and how much do i need to worry and the thing is is that this i don't do you want me to dive into this because i

can't i promise you i can't please this is so the thing is is that this cat poop specifically is um is like kind of like oddly mushy it doesn't really have a shape and it's green and so if it is cat poop and there are quite a few cats uh who spend time in our yard if it is cat poop that probably indicates that this cat is sick which means that i really need to get my excuse but i mean this is apropos i really need to get my shit together to stop my dog from eating right um so i've been trying to figure that out i've been so i've been googling a lot of like pictures of like wildlife poop. And here's the thing that's unfortunate about Googling that is that for whatever reason, a lot of the guides are like drawings of poop as opposed to actual examples of the poop.

Which is infinitely frustrating to me. Yeah. Because you know what's not helpful? A like random outline of a poop. Squiggles. Here's my artistic interpretation of the thing you're looking for a scientific diagram of. It's really, really not helpful. And I studied zoology for my undergrad.

So I'm not squeamish. This is not a big deal for me. I just need to know what animal is responsible for this. I thought it was maybe like rabbit because green but it's not like the right kind of pellet size like yeah whatever so listen I think I've narrowed it down to like sick cat um which means that I need to like buy something to cover the area that's like kind of spiky so the cat won't squat there um I haven't done that yet but that's that's google search number one what is you know

for someone who studied zoology like what are the other possible wildlife in brooklyn's but you know what i mean like because i feel like very quickly it's like it's gotta be a cat like are there like it could be a raccoon um i actually haven't specifically checked this out but like maybe there are foxes maybe there are rat they're probably rabbits like like the area i'm close to queens which is like has like a little bit more green space around like it's possible right like i also like then that also means that there's like a hole in the fence if that's the case because it has like a cement base anyways i've like that's a lot of problem solving you have to do yeah so i So I've tried to figure out, and I'm like concerned if like I covered that specific... Because at first I was going to do cayenne pepper, just like sprinkle it there.

Because like, you know, the smell of it would like get in their nostrils. But then you have to do that every day. Hot sauce would be a similar thing. So I think I've landed on like the spiky mat. Yeah. Which means that my dog also won't be able to dig there, which is probably fine. Or leave some stool hardener out for the cats

to eat in the neighborhood. See? Maybe my zoology part of me is like, no, no. That's a terrible idea, Miles. That is actually a terrible idea. As someone who has a cat who has stool issues, I've had to try everything to solve it. But yeah, I remember my dog, I have a who has a cat who has stool issues. I've had to try everything to solve it.

But yeah, I remember my dog. I have a dog, too, who loves to get down on some cat shit. And as one of our coworkers, Katie Golden, was saying, it's because of the fat content in it. Yeah. It's like delicious to dogs. Yeah, because they eat way more meat. Like their diet is way more meat heavy. Yeah.

I don't know. But she loves this stuff and she parades it around and she's so pleased whenever she finds a piece of it like she's so happy it's really frustrating so that's that's google search number one google search number two if you don't mind me giving an example yeah please monopolizing the time here, is freezers for vaccines. So I've been like Googling different types of freezers. Negative 80. This Pfizer vaccine needs a minus 70 degrees Celsius freezer,

which is called like an ultra cold freezer. These freezers cost thousands of dollars. And like your average clinic will not have a freezer like that. Right. So I've been trying to figure out how this like chain of operation is going to work and it's going to be complicated and people are going to have to work together which means that it's going to go badly um so i've been googling freezers a lot isn't there already like a run on those freezers on top of

it like even if you wanted one i was reading that like it's hard, they're even hard to obtain right now. Yeah, so like rich hospitals are already trying to buy a bunch of these and UPS, FedEx, DHL are all trying to buy because they have freezer farms. So they're all trying to like buy up a lot of freezers. So yeah, it's going to be a problem.

The thing is, is that it's unclear whether these smaller clinics would be able to afford them at all um so hopefully like i i was going to tell you i was talking to a researcher today who was telling me that um she's trying to figure out how many of these freezers they have at her university so that they can loan out the space in the freezers like the remaining space in the freezer And she's like compiled a specific number of cubic feet that they have available that they could loan out in her state. So we're subletting freezer space for the good of humanity.

Basically. Yeah. It's actually super interesting. I love these kinds of stories. I'm a science writer by trade. Like that's what I do. So I got really, really excited about the story, even though obviously it's a global pandemic and it's sad and terrible.

I do find that specific aspect of it really interesting. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've been actually stocking up on the super freezers, just like people were doing with the PS5s. I just bought 20 of them. And the heating hands for outside, you're just like one of those people just stocking up on super freezers, $12,000 freezers. Stocking up on it, you know, this guy's going to come back. Yeah.

Well, you got in trouble with the FBI for buying all those Lysol wipes. So watch it. But yeah, that story was I remember when they were first talking about vaccines over the summer and how most likely they're going to have to be frozen or kept very cold to move around. And I'm like, I already can envision the stories of trailer fulls of vaccine going bad because of x y and yeah I mean that could definitely happen crumbling infrastructure yeah right the the good news is that um the other freezers the other freezers the other vaccines

that are in the works right now from companies like AstraZeneca and Moderna do not need these these super intense freezers but like because Pfizer appears to be ahead of the pack right now we'll see if it gets an FDA authorization it it like creates a logistical issue right off the bat that could mean that certain areas more rural areas areas that don't have these fancy schmancy hospitals could uh could see a significant delay in terms of their access to a vaccine and like that's gonna suck to put it plainly yeah do do they make these vaccines at some central location then have to ship them out or will people be making the vaccines like at the hospital and be able to store them there or how does that yeah it's more

of a central location thing because you need to have a highly specialized area and these vaccines even though they haven't been authorized by the fda yet they are already in production right now right yeah um but yeah it's not like something that you can like whip up in the back of your clinic and just like administer it doesn't work that way unfortunately yeah not mine i've been told that yeah i specifically should not try uh what is something you're just mixing emergency with diet coke very weird concoction that's good uh better better than you would think it's good okay um what is something you think is overrated um so i'm actually so glad that you brought up things like emergency because what i think is super overrated is like the term healthy food or like just diets broadly speaking and especially and like

administering vitamins that are not prescribed by a doctor because you don't you don't know if you even have a deficiency or not. All of those things are just like highly overrated. Like you a lot of the things there is no such thing as a healthy food. There's nothing wrong with eating something that's sugary or that has a lot of fat. You just need to have a balanced diet. And the frequency of these things. Right. Right.

And like honestly,, kind of whatever. We know that the way that people lose weight is through restricting, not overeating. It doesn't necessarily have something to do with the types of foods that you are eating. And it's just diet culture, man. Overrated. Right. And just the language that we use that can sort of mess up our ideas or like how we even perceive those things for sure. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I think it's just really it really it really screws people up. And I just like I am like extremely over talking about my body, other people talking about their bodies and and just like competing with each other about this stuff it's just not helpful yeah it's it's weird it's something that comes up too like last week we had a guest on what we're talking about just like in quarantine like the idea of people just not caring about their physical appearance in terms of like aesthetic exercise right people like really putting the time in to like get super aesthetically cut up and shit like that and yeah like it's it's it's funny how even in a time like this like those

things sort of start seeping into our heads or even though we're at home and most of us are so isolated we're still like finding ways of like oh my god yeah and you might be feeling guilty because you're seeing this other person like looking real cut in quarantine or something like that right yeah i mean that's a problem like i don't get me wrong i i lift i um i used to power lift before the pandemic um but i do it to be strong right like i love the feeling and it's the only way like it's one of the only things that makes me feel like in my body and super grounded um it's just lifting heavy shit so yeah yeah that's like moving stuff around like lifting boxes and shit like i could do that like nathan for you that joke episode where there's a whole workout routine about just moving shit from someone's house to another one i'm like yeah

i could do that all day right there's something you feel good like yeah let me get this box let me do this but yeah all right next time i move i'm gonna be calling you miles you can yeah for free hop on a plane. Yeah, no problem. No problem. I don't have a problem. What is something you think is underrated? The answer is specifically tied to my dog, which is that I think chihuahuas are very much underrated.

I have an eight-pound black chihuahua, and they get a really bad rap and that's because most people who own chihuahuas aren't very good at training them um but she's amazing she hikes eight miles with me well eight pound body hikes will like do eight miles i'm tired at the end of it and she's like no i'm still ready to go she's super trainable she i've recently taught her to put away her toys i have to do each individually, but she will like, I say like, take it, she'll take it. And I point to the basket where we put her toys and she'll drop it in there. Like these dogs are amazing. And I don't know why

they get hated on so much. It's, it's really unfortunate. I, so you, I'm sure as someone who like loves already already you've confessed you were into zoology so as part of you being like i can make this work like i don't know enough about all this because i think i can make any of it work yeah right because i feel like a lot of people just sort of get if they're not used to training a dog or like how that works or something like they give up very easily and then you get the runaway train effect where it's like i don't know i think my chihuahua is in here i don't know check or is is everything ripped up oh yeah the dog's in here then or like like oh they shit on your pillow that you were sleeping on oh that's weird uh but yeah it's do you get like what are

you using like a clicker method and just treat positive reinforcement how do you yeah to teach her a new treat a new trick i will generally use a clicker because she actually responds relatively well to it okay um she's not one of those dogs where you can just like you can you can show them a thing and then they'll they'll mimic you like they're like super dogs that can do that she's not like that um but the clicker works well with her and uh yeah just catching the trick so if she does something that i want, that I like, then I will praise her like crazy. Like it's a, it's a party in this apartment if she does something great. And then she'll figure it out and she'll try to recreate that moment. And then you praise that more. Yeah. Yeah.

I, if you could see the amount of just toys around me right now i i could use i'm taking notes right now for how to train my two and four year old to to do what you're humans yeah yeah yeah no i i because actually i was talking to my wife yesterday about how like as far as like catching a trick and then praising a specific behavior like it is actually quite similar with with very young children right like you praise them when they do something that's really good and you just like catch them in the act and they try and recreate it because they know it's a good thing yeah um i think that stops working after a while but when they're young or you reinforce the wrong behaviors that you take into adulthood and you're like oh i meant to be passive around this kind of person because that's how i was being like oh good for you if someone tells you to come here and you know do you do that that's okay the other thing i want to know about chihuahuas is i i like

chihuahuas but their big ass skulls uh kind of freak me out like i'm always looking at them like yeah the dome skull yeah like what's up with your skull piece chihuahua yeah it's weird she actually so there are two types of chihuahuas. Okay. She's not a purebred. She's a rescue from Texas. But there are two types of chihuahuas. One has like a dome skull and the other one has more of like a flat skull. So she's a flat skull chihuahua. Gotcha.

Okay. I agree with you. The dome skull is weird. No shade to dome skulls, but for me, maybe not my cup of tea. Yeah, no, I get you. I feel you. Yeah, it's just something it looks uncomfortable. Like when you see like the trembling chihuahuas that have like the dome skull because you're like, is your head about to explode?

Is that why you're shaking? Because that's what it looks like to me. So I will tell you that the trembling is one major downside of this particular animal. Like she does it all the time. If she's stressed out, if she's cold, which is a lot of the time she will, she will shake. And that I do like,

I wish that wasn't a thing that she did. Um, but you know what? I'm cold all the time too. So if, if I'm cold, I know she's cold. So we,

we help each other out, you know? Yeah. We alert each other to this environmental problem that we're facing. She about you she's like oh every time i get in her arms so cold um yeah yeah uh all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the news when you think of mexican culture you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back yeah so we are in the middle of a covid 19 pandemic have you guys heard about this uh no uh yeah surge uh continued surge uh i don't know that they're it's breaking down into distinct waves at this point it just seems like it's popping off in different places quite a bit right now. But one place in particular it is popping off is within the Trump administration. Yeah. Everybody. Everybody has come through.

Mark Meadows, chief of staff, tested positive. Ben Carson tested positive. Corey Lewandowski tested positive. And now the latest news over the weekend was that over 130 secret service officers have been quarantining or isolating due to a positive test themselves or for being in close contact to a coworker that had tested positive. or for being in close contact to a coworker that had tested positive. That's like roughly 10% of the agency's core security team from what the reports are. So 10% because of all the insisting on like COVID isn't real, is now having this effect of the people that are in charge of protecting them, like this recklessness around them is now being like,

okay, well, now we've kneecapped our capacity by about 10%. The, you know, a lot of people were pointing to the, like the rallies as a huge contributing factor, because again, those are huge maskless events with no social distancing. So like most people who accept the science around and go, yeah, you don't want to do that. And then couple that with all of the indoor events that are going on too with them, where it's maskless indoors, no social distancing, a lot of hooting and hollering. And yes, there's just increased added risk. Do we know if these Secret Service agents are being told specifically not to wear a mask? Like, is that a directive that they are getting?

Because that just feels particularly like that feels like negligence to me. That feels like particularly awful. We do have anecdotes where Trump specifically shames people for wearing masks around him. So it might be an unofficial guidance. Right. Exactly. Yeah. In the in the photos, you'll it's a mix. Like sometimes you'll the Secret Service is wearing a mask and other times they're not so i don't know it almost seems like how close you are to the president like you'll see like

the people who are maybe on the perimeters that look like secret service are masked up and then you see photos of like the president walking through somewhere and he's like super close detail is maskless so yeah it's the opposite of how it should be right right yeah you would think it yes exactly because the idea of wearing a mask is like, let's protect the president. Right. Yeah. But. And even then, like, you know, the beginnings was that awful, awful photo op when he decided to do the hermetically sealed drive around Walter Reed with his security detail in the car when he is in the midst of struggling through his covid infection yes uh so i don't know man like i i'm who knows like the kinds of memoirs that are going to come out from these people but like god like it's got to be even worse and you're like dude my job is to protect people who are trying to fucking who literally don't give a fuck if i live or die like it's a

weird dynamic going on here right the fact that their job is to be willing to take a bullet for him. And like he, I'm shocked that he hasn't more taken advantage of that. And like had people shoot at him to just like dangle his power of having a secret services, secret service detail in front of people. That guy had to do that. It's good.

Die for me. He's fine though. He's fine, though. He's got a vest on. I mean, the thing when it comes to COVID is that he is the bullet, right? He's the bullet. Yeah, exactly. What do you do when the principle

that you're supposed to be protecting is also the threat to everyone's safety simultaneously? Yeah. Also, this just revealed a very stupid myth that i always had in my head i didn't realize how many secret service agents there were i was like 130 that's got to be all of them right that's gotta be right yeah i thought they were just the six that are always around him like in uh in the line of fire right um you know bill rick uh wraparound shades mustache the other guy they don't look that

different from one another. They all have kind of the same gear on. So I just assumed it was like a, a small gang that, uh, protected the president. It is a small 1300 of them. I mean, they, they were born out of the Pinkertons. Yeah. Yeah. You know?

So like, it is, uh, it is an interesting evolution of the guy who is like, yeah, I created a corporate police gang to like help fight people who are fighting for like labor rights and also protect the president. Now we'll pivot into that now. Yeah. After the Lincoln assassination. Very fitting. We should probably have.

Who should we get? Oh, get Pinkerton. That guy's got, he's got a bunch of goons on payroll that dude's wild let's talk about rampal i mean this is this just seems to be ideologically like really going around on the on the right but rampal uh is demanding that we get get this country back to work folks yeah just you know throw, you know, throw a, I don't, again, every day people are separating themselves more and more from reality. And I'm not sure like where this goes aside from like the,

I don't know, over time you're like, well, it was an evolutionary trait that conservatives subtly washed themselves out of the gene pool because they didn't believe in science or illnesses. But he went on Fox to assure people. I don't know. First of all, I don't even need to give a caveat, but this is straight bullshit. But he's screaming this on Fox. But the other thing is, is we have 11 million people in our country who have already had COVID. We should tell them to celebrate. We should tell them to throw away their masks, go to restaurants, live again, because these people are now immune. I'm just going to stop that there because that's not true.

Deeply wrong. Just incorrect. Yeah. I mean, almost immediately on MSNBC, they had Dr. Vin Gupta on just to completely debunk that. So just again, just so you can hear from a doctor, completely debunk that. Here's what an expert from the University of Washington Health Metrics Sciences Department has to say. I don't know why he would say that. For your viewers out there, to correct misinformation, there is no evidence that if you've been infected with COVID-19 that you're immune from reinfection for any period of time. We have a 25-year-old in Nevada, otherwise healthy within six weeks

of his first infection, got reinfected, had more severe symptoms the second time around. So that is shameful on the part of Senator Rand Paul. So, yeah, it is. Yeah, in fact, the CDC actually is recommending that once the vaccine is available, that people who have had COVID-19 should still get vaccinated

because vaccines actually, depending on how infected you were with COVID-19, vaccines can actually, like, convey, actually, like, better immunity often. So, yeah, it's really terrible that he said that. I don't, it's so weird, right? Like, you know, there are, like, sort of the hypotheticals about how you can't shout fire in a crowded theater, know and cause a commotion that could lead to people injuring themselves yet it's okay to shout shit that verifiably is going to cause people their lives like oh no covid man just toss your masks away because you've had covid and you can say that on national fucking tv and we're still like

hi what do we do here i i guess if you watch fox you're sorry like i don't know like at a certain point there we have to be able to reign this kind of misinformation and because it truly is like you there's so many people who even i like people who are are not conservative hear this kind of like bullshit misinformation to whatever help them feel like they can go outside again. You're like, oh, my God, where did you hear that? That's not true. Just because you had it, it doesn't mean you can't get it again. And I don't that people have this like chicken pox idea of like what COVID is or something. Yeah, I mean, it would have been ideal if and and to be clear I've only listened to that one specific clip I don't even know who was conducting the interview and I don't know what happened after

that but in the moment it would have been really nice for somebody to stop him and correct him right yeah right yeah but not rather than just being like okay thanks Rand Paul uh being like hold yeah I mean that there's we're barely seeing now. Like only in the last week have we seen the media like interrupt some kind of misinformation like mid-breath to be like, okay, okay, we're not doing that. We're not doing that. Yeah. I mean, I think that's not going to happen on Fox. I think the thing that's been nice about, at least nice, you know, we're still during

global pandemic, but I do think that journalists broadly have gotten much better at reporting on science. But when it comes to something like this, like, yeah, interrupt the dude, man. Just say that's not true because it's not. And you should know that by now, regardless of whether you're trained in science reporting or not. But again, I did not see the rest of that clip.

Sure. And of course, you are a legitimate journalist, so you can't unite out here with us. Spice takes like two scumbags like us on microphone, which we appreciate. You class up the joint. Just want to catch what I'm saying here, you know? Of totally. No, 100%. And that's why we respect journalists like you who take the craft very seriously with respect. But yeah, with this, it almost seems like they're not journalists, right? It's just more like, okay, we're on the side of just not pushing back against that because here we're tying this idea of being safe with COVID to fucking up the corporate overlords profits.

What channel was he on when he said that? Fox baby. Yeah. It's wild because you, you brought up like the philosophical and like, you know, overarching legal precedent of like the shouting fire in a crowded theater is against the law but like samuel alito just gave a speech to

the federalist society so uh you know tune in for some great takes but was talking about how the speech being limited and like the unimaginable curbs on people's liberty during the pandemic like it was so wild how he was treating people asking americans to quarantine and to not say things that were anti-scientific and would lead to people's deaths as unimaginable curbs on liberty. Well, I mean, but look at it by the words I'm using. I mean, you're stopping people from doing things. That is a curb to their liberty.

But yeah, maybe it is safe for people, but you can't deny that we are. I think that's just the weird fucking loops they want to play without being like, I'm not denying science, but you also can't deny telling people to do this is technically curbing their freedoms. And that's going to allow millions of people to go in the street and just treat this as like, you can't oppress me. It's like, yeah, it's not what the fuck is going on. Yeah.

So much of this comes down to, like, the individualistic nature of Americans. Broadly speaking, I'm Canadian. So, you know thank you thank you for debasing yourself and coming you know so much of this is the individuality thing like it is hard for me sometimes to understand why the idea of helping your your fellow human helping people and and um working together seems like so complicated for for some folks here it just it does boggle my boggle the mind a little bit we've just been chugging this bootstraps bullshit mythology forever to the point where it can't it to the point where it's played out to

its most extreme form which is yo don't fucking help him which is, yo, don't fucking help him. They got bootstraps. Don't fucking help them. They got bootstraps. Nobody's, no, no, no. You got your own bootstraps. That's what we do here. It's the only way you prove your self-worth. And if you do fail,

it is absolutely 100% always your fault and nothing else could have possibly impacted whether you were able to succeed or not. It is just a way of controlling people absolutely in a way to just always keep the emphasis on yourself and never like but what about the people that are actually creating the environment in which i'm trying to operate in because there's another layer of control power influence that we are that most people do not have a hand in and still thinking like oh man my damn bootstraps failed rather than like no man systemic racism has me in a fucking box that i cannot get out of or de facto white supremacy

has me in a box that i cannot get out of uh and yeah it's it is really hard to see too because i'm half japanese and on the other side of it all i know is to consider other people or like almost to my own detriment like to overextend myself because I don't do not want to inconvenience someone else, especially if I can do something to make it easier for other people. And it is like hard to even reconcile those. Cause I'm being like, I also see how people think here too.

Not that I'm like, I believe that, but I understand like that path. But at a certain point you got to be able to be like, no man, shit is not your fault. Like the way shit gets better is like when you actually fucking look at the people who are actually in control here rather than like putting laying the blame always on yourself. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. raised in his Federalist Society commentary was how conservatives and Christians are being discriminated against and used the homophobic cake shop owner in Colorado as like an example where he thinks that like morality is being enforced against Christians. so it's like he yeah it's complete double standard complete just to the highest level of the conservative movement and you know the highest level of the of the u.s government is just being infiltrated by this this ideology of hate and unless it's their dumb ass like anti-scientific beliefs in which case they need to be protected um yeah one thing that i mean speaking of the supreme court uh the new

york times reported that the president has been asking around and saying that he has to wait and see uh about whether uh the states are going to certify their votes or how they're going to approach that before he admits defeat, which is a step in the process that people have been kind of worried about since before the election that he could work with Republican state legislatures to basically claim that the election was stolen from him and then send a competing batch of electors who would then create a constitutional crisis because you would have, there's not like a clear answer of who would have the right to cast the votes for that state. That would go to the Supreme Court, which I think is where some of his earlier, it'll probably go to the Supreme Court, we'll see, statements were coming from. And the good news is that so far, it doesn't seem like any states are taking that taking the steps to kind of go along with with that possibility.

But this this statement, the speech that Alito gave really does not make me very hopeful for anything going before the Supreme Court. The writings on the wall, you know, I think we're only going to see, like, worse shit out of the conservatives as, you know, the numbers dwindle and they become more and more of a mathematical minority that they're going to have to, like, resort to this kind of, like, language and takes to be like,

come on, y'all, like, whiteness is on the line. Like, this, but we'll couch it in this other language. And, I mean, the other thing that we can only feel good about is like you're saying they're every like the legal arguments they even raise in court like the judges are even confused as to what they're they're presenting like when you read the transcripts they're like so you're saying like i don't understand like you've got fake evidence here but you auto sourced it like Like, how do you, how can I admit this as evidence? Like,

well, we used a capture. So anyone who submitted a whistleblower complaint had to verify they were human. It's like, yeah, but you have things that are like outright like nonsense in here too. And like,

all right, well, we'll, we'll talk about that. And you have like, even like the law firms who are representing Trump in Pennsylvania, like they're pulling out because they, it just got so weird when like giuliani claimed one of the whistleblowers was like a regular person it was actually an attorney for the law firm and they're like okay

we can't do this shit anymore yeah i mean it's not like they're going about this in any kind of competent way right this is not actually like they really could have planned this out if they had wanted to because president trump has been talking about this for a very long time. But they didn't. And it seems very kind of piecemeal, like, let's kind of put this together. And it's not being executed in any way that feels thought through in any way, shape or form. Like the nefarious version is they were planning this from like 2018 you know after the midterms like okay we're just gonna have to fully figure out how to just ensure no matter what happens that we can do it but i think this it's just so slapdash and now even in michigan the the leaders

of the state legislature there who are republicans they have said publicly like they're not gonna fuck around they're saying once that once the election is certified, the popular vote, it's certified. Like, the electors will go to the winner of the popular vote, which will be Joe Biden. So they're just like, like, once it's certified, sure, we're not going to, we'll still say it's not certified or whatever. But they're like, the electors saying like, no, like, there's no, there's no interest in that. Because it just, it's's completely at a certain level. Like there are some conservatives who are like, yeah, but that's kind of like the deal here. It's like unless you can do like sort of more cynical voter suppression to try and eke out like margins,

we can't go this far to be like, oh, no, this didn't happen. So some institutions are holding. And but I mean, I don't think you can blame the republicans uh for not wanting to thwart the law because like the best that like gop operatives can do to like create whistleblowers like especially in michigan there's this clip i'm just gonna play of someone who they paraded out on fox who you know was apparently worked for Dominion or was hired by Dominion as some kind of like IT person on the day. But it's just, I'm not even sure what this person is trying to say. I think what they're trying to talk about, this is on Lou Dobbs show, like why there were vans

in Michigan that suddenly like, what were these vans that were there? And I don't just try and keep up um with this low energy con job um so i worked a 24-hour shift um i started at 6 a.m and i got off at 6 p.m or 6 a.m uh the next day um so i started at 6 a.m november 3rd got off at 6 a.m november 4th so I was there during their day shift and their night shift. The city provides the workers with food for their shift. Well, they only had enough food for one-third

of their workers. So that is the reason why they were claiming that these vans were brought in. But these vans did not have food taken out of them. And the vans that showed up, they were supposed to be filled with food. What did they have in them? Do you know?

I never saw anything being brought out of the vans i know that whatever was being brought out of the vans was being brought out of the back of the vans but um i was not allowed over in that area at all okay so come on what they're like you gotta do better than this not somebody who match baby hold on first. First of all, who works a 24 hour shift? Um, like, I mean,

illegally people would, but like I had to do the 6am to 6am shift. And then like the main thing is like, and they only had food for one third of the people. Therefore a van came, but they weren't opening. I don't think they took anything out the back maybe the passenger side door I don't know

but I don't know what the van it's like it's so I don't even know what the arc is of this story I mean all I can think listen I've worked in TV I still work in TV I'm a correspondent for Vice News I don't who pre-interviewed this person

that's my question. What did Lou Dobbs think was going to be said? Normally, you get somebody on TV, like, a producer will pre-interview and, like, prep the person to get ready to, like, tell their story and, like, this is, like, the least convincing way that I would tell that story and frankly, I don't know if there's a convincing way to tell it

but, like... Yeah, it's like, especially for something as massively important if you're going to you know create some semblance of legitimacy to this clearly just nonsense like lie like yeah get that shit rehearsed rather than let them meander like lou dobbs is also not like nimble enough to like interject to keep it going like letting her trail up he's like so there was no food and there were vans yeah yeah uh okay fuck what are we what are we supposed to say now like so therefore what so what are you saying yeah that was confusing it seemed like the person who had prepped him for what was going to be revealed was whoever like

writes the promos and was like an earth-shattering revelation coming and then he like didn't know that it was just gonna be that they didn't that there was food or not food coming from a van and he was just like confused it seemed like yeah i don't know i'd fire my producers yeah i was lou dobbs typically i'm not advocating for anybody getting fired during i know you're not you're not okay you're not i'm a soulless ghoul and i think they should have their jobs too because they made that shit look so dumb that it actually helped out. So thank you, producers, for doing your job

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And what's the latest? We haven't from disney in a while miles what's going on there fucking cry mouse gang is crying their eyes out because their money's going down uh they had like a meeting or some online thing and they said you know in the state of california they're very mad because they want Disneyland to be open. Okay. Okay. Is it that hard? They said, we are, quote, we are very disappointed that the state of California continues to keep

Disneyland closed. This is the Disney CEO, Bob Chapik or whatever, however you say that. And he called the pandemic guidelines in the state, quote, arbitrary. And then being like, because, you know, we've been able to open Disney world in orlando so why can't we do that just because there seems to be some kind of pandemic going on i still don't understand where they let us do it in florida and there's now a group of mayors who sent a letter to gavin newsom in california being like open universal studios and open

disneyland or people will lose their jobs and it's i i like that there's always like this threat of people being like laid off rather than like hi since like rather than being like okay here's the deal since we're not willing to do right by our employees as this multinational billion billions dollar company uh gavin newsom gavin newsom has given us no choice but to lay people off in order to not upset the people that are holding on to our stock at the moment that's sort of what is going on here and i don't know despite all of this like boohoo shit like they've actually made a lot of money from disney plus subscriptions so it all rings like very fucking corporate crimey river nonsense but like

it's there are people though who are even protesting like who aren't who are just disney fans uh to reopen disneyland it's all very very american very american yeah who like people protesting on behalf of say it no yeah no 100 100% it's a very uniquely American dilemma protesting on behalf of corporations to let them kill you yeah it's really hard to make a convincing

argument for this you know it's hasn't Disney been in trouble in the past for not paying its employees well at these amusement parks at all, right? Like, I'm not sure that, you know, given their history,

I'm not sure that I would threaten to fire them because, and basically throw a tantrum, right? Right. And blame it on the governor. It just doesn't seem like a good tactic to me. So on the one hand, yes, they don't pay them well. And yes, they do endanger their lives or at least argue for the ability to. But on the other hand, they do call them cast members instead of employees. Or wage slaves. Yeah. Which would be more appropriate. They're cast members.

Cast members. Could you imagine like he's using such euphemistic language like that like oh and those are cast members who are currently begging you for help uh but don't mind them uh oh i guess tears are coming out of that mickey mouse mask like the yeah well it's it's america and it's but it's the same tact that a lot of people use who are in industries where corporations are willing to ship jobs abroad is go, oh, it's not me that made the selfish choice to just ship your job abroad where the margins are greater for me from a profit standpoint. It's these immigrants. And then they're like, yeah, that's right. It wasn't my boss who was underpaying me and never actually stood up for me.

It's this guy he said to blame, this nebulous group, immigrants. And I think this helps for the narrative of like the same company about starting to put this at the feet of Gavin Newsom rather than themselves. You know, like that's what this is always about. It's like, well, it's not us. We're not being greedy because you get it. If we if we start taking hits to our profits, then like, what are we? Right. A less profitable company. God, God forbid. get it if we if we start taking hits to our profits then like what are we right uh a less profitable company god god forbid yes all right another story that we've kind of lost sight of tragically you know while the election and the pandemic are going on uh we lost sight of the Renaissance, the Jeremy Renner career Renaissance, his emerging as a musical talent into our world. And I just wanted to check in because somebody from the Zeitgang

called to our attention that he was dropping a video in the next, I think it was at the end of last week, that was a lyric video. And he's dropped a bunch of songs since Heaven Don't Gotta Name, which got a lot of attention. Is it Heaven Don't Gotta Name? Heaven Ain't Gotta Name? Heaven, I don't know. Yeah, Ain't or Don't Got, either one.

His lyrical prowess, I'm kind of blown away by what he has continued to do because he has really doubled down on the aesthetic of meaninglessness and early 90s emo, macho, bravado, weird cheesiness. I love that you struggle to pinpoint pinpoint like where his creative center is you know right so his he's got he's really uh into using metaphors to describe uh relationships uh his newest song that just dropped that had the lyric video drop at the end of last week was uh stereo love uh and the in case you you can't guess what the metaphor is there, I'll just read you a couple of lyrics. She speaks to me just like a song.

Her words, a melody I can sing along. Her symphony is so sweet. I can't believe her sound. She's my stereo love. Life's in key, the right arrangement. Her tempo's fine with me and she loves my phrasing that's my favorite line by the way yeah loves my phrasing let her conduct

and cue my choir we're both in harmony she's my stereo love so he some of his other complex metaphor yes very lyrically complex those other metaphor based songs love is a war and some lyrics Metaphor, yes, very lyrically complex. Those are other metaphor-based songs.

Love is a War and some lyrics from that. Landmine, frontline, we're soldiers. When did love become a war? Bullets shot through the floor because love is a war. And also, she's a fire. I know she's going to be my third degree. Embers in her eyes. She's going to make a mess of me.

She lights me up with her flames. So bright. She's a fire. So don't get close. She'll kill you slow, which isn't a thing. Like a slow burn? Is that what it is? She'll kill you slow? I think so.

But fire in and of itself is not a slow acting thing. So hot there's smoke. She's a fire. Stop, drop on and on she burns the night and then another song that's come out in the since we last checked him uh with his recording career is a song called sippy cup uh which is a song that seems to be about two hungover people getting drunk together to cure a hangover while drinking out of an actual sippy cup. So it's more of a conceptual track. At least there's some storytelling there. You know what?

Yeah. Extra points for storytelling. That's very specific. It is, but he doesn't, I get the sense he doesn't know what a sippy cup is because he's just referring to a cup that he's taking sips out of and calling it a sippy cup. Oh, I see. Yeah.

He thinks it's just a fun, flirty way to say a cup you sip out of, I think. He's like, my sippy cup. His fun and flirty song about being hungover and curing that with more booze? Yeah, with more booze. Yeah, with more booze. Sure, sure, sure. Exactly. Well, as we know, Heaven Don't Got a Name. But I feel like this might be like his, the character he's been cultivating is this very specific, wildly improbable version of like, I don't know.

version of like i don't know it reminds me of like a a person from a canadian 90s like don't don't knock canada you know those movies from canada that are a little too much hard on the america bashing we gave you keanu reeves oh yeah we gave you sandra oh we gave you Sandra Oh. We gave you fucking Jay Baruchel. We gave you Eugene Levy. What are you doing? I'm just saying the movie... And we ruined them. When I've been to Canada and turned on HBO, it's like a whole different version.

Oh, yeah. We're like five years behind forever. And there's also different movies that are well-produced and look like, oh, yeah, that's also like different movies that are like well produced and look like oh yeah that's a that's a movie why haven't i heard of this uh and it's just like a whole different universe of movies that exist in uh canada that are like produced by the canadian or with the help of the canadian government that's correct subsidizing for the arts is uh substantial and sometimes some very bad things that's all i'm saying yeah i'll allow it fine thank you for explaining i'm glad that you actually have some background and some context yeah yeah no that

makes me feel a little bit better about your hot 90s canadian take there's uh but it i do wonder like if he is going for that like it's so synthetic and so like fake that i just i wonder he's yeah as my mom would say he's an odd one he's an odd one that might be where it's best left at i'll keep i'll keep talking about this but like for my mom votes in the golden globes and like sometimes people who are nominated will like begin sending holiday cards like just to kind of keep staying the good graces of the voting the voters of the golden globes that way like like army hammer will always send a card every year uh and jeremy renner would for a while army hammers looks like a family photo. It's him, his wife's

children. They're smiling. Jeremy Renner's was him in his living room with his hand in his pocket standing in front of like a wall, like not even smiling.

And it's like happy holidays. And it was like there was nothing. But you remembered it visually. Yeah. I guess so.

You remember his name because I got to say I got i kind of had to google this guy right that makes sense yeah i which i'm not super proud of because i feel like i should have known who jeremy renner i don't know in a way i'm like that's kind of the coolest shit i ever heard or something like you know i don't really know who the fuck i don't even know who that's dope like this person has their attention i was like oh yeah that guy yeah right hurt locker face right it's he has he had a very interesting career because he like after hurt locker he was nominated he had a really strong supporting role in the town and then hollywood was like this is the next dude and they like hired him to be to replace tom cruise in the mission impossible movies and they hired him to replace matt damon in the born movies and in the born movies they made one

with him as j as like jason bourne uh era parent and people were just like no not really right like it was just and then they went back to matt damon immediately after in the mission impossible movies like he came on as a co-star but they like tom cruise just through sheer tyranny of will just like was not willing to let it happen and he just like kind of went away and it just like never happened in that battle between two aliens i i put my money on tom cruise's powers his alien powers over there the interviews with renner are so interesting because he just seems like a loosely cobbled together assemblage of anecdotes that he heard about humans like he's a he's a house flipper he's like i'm a pacifist i never fight but in that same interview he tells the story

about how a guy made fun of his scarf and so he and then shoved his sister and so he got behind him and choked him out put him to sleep whoa okay yeah nobody likes getting shoved especially when it's your family member i get it but choking it's so wild put him to sleep that sounds like a story that sounds like when i used to take krav maga and the instructors would try and pretend it was a scenario in which you're defending yourself but you assaulted somebody when it's like i don't know maybe he like what he shoved your sister oh you're defending yourself, but you assaulted somebody. When it's like, I don't know, maybe he like, what, he shoved your sister? Oh, you're gonna have to choke. No, no, no.

You made a mistake. So you get behind him, you choke him out. Yeah, you choke him out. Because he's proud of that shit at the end. He's like, yeah, man. So I got behind him, choked him out, put him to sleep. Like, okay, so now you're toxic big dick guy, but before you're the pacifist. It is maybe... Maybe he is an algorithm, you know, uh, that is like just processing this data and being like, yes, this is another human experience that I had when, in which my sister was shoved.

I had to choke this MF out. So I don't know. Sippy cup. That is the thing that oh people i was gonna ask what is a very canadian movie in the vein of what jack's talking about like for people to like to you as a canadian because i want you to be able to sort of put me on to be like okay what jack is talking about is summed up in a in these films or this so director's work Okay. So here's the thing. I'm from Quebec, which means that I,

my like movie references are all like extremely French. Sure. Or like Québécois rather. Actually, my mother will be very upset at me for saying that they're French, but they're like in a French language. They're Francophone. So,

and like Québécois movies are actually like, they win Palme d'Or all the time. They're, like, at Cannes all the time. They're, like, actually very good movies except for a few stinkers. I don't know. I have, like, favorite Anglophone Canadian movies, but I don't know if I've been paying attention to the terrible ones because, like, why? Or not even terrible, but I guess, like, what's, yeah, I mean, anything because I think every time I… So, one of my favorite really random canadian movies is called men with

brooms and it is a movie about a guy who makes like a curling comeback um i love this shit it is so good uh highly recommended definitely worth your time he was like a small town guy he used to be really good something traumatic happens story. And like people are just trying to get him to play again. Men with Brooms is a very good movie. One that crossed over was onto American TV and then like really made an impression was 1989's Teen Witch, which is about a teen witch.

A high school nerd who's... Clever name. Yeah, yeah. It's just that that's one worth checking out how did this get made covers these movies sometimes uh one called little italy is uh a classic that they've uh talked about and has become taken on like lore and they they've talked about it being like a very Canadian movie. Right. Yeah.

So those are a couple to check out. The ones on, the times I've interacted with a Canadian film would be like when I'm like just binging Christmas movies because I'll watch like anything that has snow in the cover. And that's when I've crossed over into being like, oh wait, this is okay. Yes. This is Canadian.

Cause you can tell like there's subtleties. It's got a flavor. It's got, it's got a flavor that like I, but a Canadian Christmas movie hits even harder because it's like got the, the warmth of like Canadian culture. The sincerity is the thing. And even,

and even though it's like a campy movie, it's like, it's so sincere that it fries my circuits a little bit. I'm used to seeing like agro-American camp bullshit. And this one, you're like, is real sincerity or fake? It's startling, right? Yeah. But that's when I know instantly when I'm watching, oh, this one's Canadian. I like it.

I like it. I have to find this rom-com that I watched because it had movie stars in it to the point that I was like, why don't I know about this? But I think it was only released widely in Canada and it was made with the Canadian government's funding. And I'll find it for a future episode, but it's just like an alternate reality. Was it Mam it for a future episode.

It's just like an alternate reality. Was it Mambo Italiano? I don't think it was, no. It wasn't My Big Fat Greet Wedding? No. I'll find it. For people that are interested, you can, I think, watch Men With

Brooms on Prime. Oh, hey! Based on that, I'm like, I have to to see this i have to see this yeah watch it watch it it got a nomination for the genie award for best performance by an actress in a leading role what's a genie award it's like the canadian oscars right oh fuck yeah fuck yeah. Oh yeah, the Academy of Canadian Cinema and Television. It's like the Junos are our music awards. Right, right, right.

So like Tegan and Sarah have won a bunch of Junos, you know, the new pornographers, those kinds of bands. Shout out MuchMusic. Oh, yeah, man. Yes, thank you for that. Miles, you were saying the other day that even though we've stopped our rewatch segment,

you've continued watching stuff on Netflix, in the Netflix top 10. I just wanted to give you an opportunity to... I'm still making my way through The Last Airbender, almost through it. It's great. I appreciate everybody who recommended it to me. Appreciate y'all.

Great show. Thank y'all. But what are some of the newer shows that you've been watching? Again, you know me. I like the holiday movies. I watched Holiday with Emma Roberts. Yeah, I mean, I haven't met a holiday film I won't sit through the entire thing. Even if I'm screaming how bad it is. I don't know why I just have the patience. I'm like, yeah, but I know they will be together, but I just got to make sure that's what happens. Like, even though it's, they're so formulaic. It's just so weird how I'm like, interesting. I know it. I think it's also comforting because they're so predictable that you'll never have to be you don't have to be too engaged but yeah holiday was fun as i was saying the week before it's written in a way though where i was

getting mad at the writer for some of the jokes they were writing because they just didn't tonally jibe with like what was happening in the story or what the sort of aesthetic of the film was so like suddenly it'd be like a very blue joke and i'm like that was so out of left field and it just seems like you did that to like laugh at something you wrote on the paper um but still worth watching uh if you like holiday films but the thing that i've been watching a lot is instant hotel which is this australian show where people like have homes they want to airbnb but it turns into like the cattiest shit where it'll be like five couples or five pairings of people who own a property and they want to make it an Airbnb or

instant hotel. And these couples all stay at each other's homes. Like while the host couple won't be there, but the other three competing people will be there. And then they start like raiding it. So some people have like really interesting houses. Like this one couple had like a house that was like in an old mine, like a dugout mine. So it's like actually a cave house, which is really kind of cool. But then they're like these hoity-toity like Australian people. Like it feels like a bit of a dustbin in here. So I don't really, I can't really ride it that high. So and like, and then like the people get, it's funny because at a certain point they'll tell the other people how they were talking about their homes and people get very, you know, they take it very personally, especially when it's like their own homes.

I mean, yeah. So like people will like start crying, like, and I don't mean to cry because I know it's just a writing and it's not really to be do with me, but it's really hard to hear something like that about my home. hard to hear something like that at my home and it's just funny to watch these people like i start watching it too and i'm like oh i will start talking shit about this or this or this so i don't know it's it's a it's a fun way to escape and just look at like the landscapes of another country because truly like they'll go from every sort of landscape in australia to where some's the outback and then it's like a rainforest and a beach town you're like they have a desert like their their ecosystems are out of control so varied so varied so yeah that's another one i think is if you like if you want to watch people talk catty about each other's homes that could be airbnb instant hotel well i mean we're at a time where like you can't go inside anybody's

homes yeah like i could see the attraction i don don't think I'm going to watch it, but like I see that. You don't have to. Yeah. I'll wait for it to become a worse American version of that show. Dude, the American version would be so fucked up because there is a bit of gamesmanship.

Like, yeah, if you rate someone's home lower, you have a better chance of your home getting to like the grand final, which is really like they give you like 10 grand to like fix your home getting to like the grand final, which is really like, they give you like 10 grand to like fix your home up based on what other people said. And then you can win like a larger prize, but I could see Americans being on the show.

We're so cynical and like just prize focused at the expense of their own humanity or being kind to another person that they'd be like, Oh, this zeros. I give the zeros. I give my place 10, this place zeros no i win i win yeah yeah so uh but there's just yeah it's a bit of travel a bit of entering people's

home so yeah it does have a you know a little bit of everything in it ariel is there anything you've been binging or binged that you'd recommend um i i recommend re-watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer. That's where I'm at right now. It's my comfort watch. I finally convinced my wife, who has been extremely resistant to watching this show. She's not necessarily into action and fighting, and neither am I.

That's not why I watch this show. And I finally convinced her she's finally hooked this is good guys like i feel like i'm like in like tv wise i'm living my best life because i get to re-watch one of my favorite childhood shows with with the love of my life so it's it's amazing yeah stacy abrams even came through with her buffy takes on twitter oh yeah oh my god really that's so great oh yeah she yo go on twitter she fucking she's in it she's in it she's talking about how angel was the best boyfriend for buffy at the time okay i mean yes yes that is that is and you know she she writes romance novels so

like she would know how to complicate a romance and how to talk about that stuff so yes i will go on twitter i was i'm probably like your wife where uh my partner her majesty she loves buffy and she's like in the beginning of quarantine she's like fine i'll watch fucking sopranos but you gotta watch buffy and i'm like deal uh and in the beginning i was like what's going on she's like okay look season one's campy okay the vibe right don't watch season one so can i if i permit me to give some advice to your partner? You do not need any. Yes, please. The place where I managed to get my wife actually interested was season four. Wow. So I think what's going to happen is we're going to, we're now in season five.

We're going to keep watching and then we're going to have to go back. And then we're also going to watch Angel series as well. Right. As one does. But yeah, no, it is, it is hard. And we started at the middle of season four actually and that got her hooked i started around hush at the beginning i was like i get it like i see what's fun and then you see like sort of like the morality tales that are like woven into them

which especially interesting when like what they're using to talk about like whether it's like an unstable home life or whatever but the allegory of like a demon or like a ghost mom who's a cheerleader. But the other thing, the one that got me was once more with feeling the musical episode, because I was like, what the fuck? And I'm like, yo,

this show got range. And that's what, that was, that's where I bought in. And I was like, okay, I'll, I'll,

I'll see the other stuff. Okay. So you're already bought in. She doesn't like your partner doesn't know. I'm bought in. I'm bought in. Yeah. All right.

Okay. Okay. Then I, once more with feeling, why did you even let me do that?'t, like, your partner doesn't need any advice. Oh, no, I'm bought in. I'm bought in. Yeah, yeah, I'm good. Oh, all right. Okay, okay. Then I retract all that. Why did you even let me do that? That's, like, so... Oh, I think for most people, too, because it's true. Like, if you are trying to get people in the Buffyverse, you know, season one's a little bit different. But I appreciated that because I was willing to be, like, sit, you know, like, you want

to see the whole thing. So I'm a completionist. Yeah, my personal advice is start with season four. The episode is called Hush, and it's one of the only episodes of Buffy that was nominated for an Emmy in writing. Is it not Emmy? Yes, an Emmy in writing. It's fantastic. A genie, I think.

Yes. Ariel, it's been so fun having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you and follow you? Well, number one is I am the host of my own podcast. The podcast is called Vice News Reports. It is a documentary style news podcast.

It's not like news news in the way that like this podcast is, for instance. Oh, stop. Bullshit talk. No, no. But like not to take away from that. Everybody needs that. What I'm saying is that it's complimentary. That's it for your bullshit. Right? Right, right. It is. instance oh stop bullshit talk well no no but like not to take away from that everybody needs that is what i'm saying is that it's complimentary right it is it is a complimentary listen so we take deep dives we have a lot of field audio it just launched i think you know if i can say this

myself i think it's really good um so vice news reports is number one subscribe to that um leave us a review you know yeah um and otherwise twitter i'm at adrs on twitter wow early adopter yeah zeitgang please uh check the show out because it is fantastic and i think yeah a good uh companion to this where we talk the nonsense and then go here really intelligent people with journalistic integrity give you some more insight. What's journalism again? I've never, never heard that word before. Uh, what is,

what is something our parents wish we did? Uh, what is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Uh, I mean, when, when you guys asked me about this, like the first thing that came to mind from this week was, you know, because everybody was like very much on this Four Seasons landscaping thing.

And listen, I'm here for that joke. I think it's great. And also, I like a good contrarian viewpoint. any fellow podcaster rose evlith tweeted out like for every four seasons total landscaping shirt you purchase i hope you're donating an equivalent amount to an actual cause and you know what it's it's kind of like takes the fun out of out of the story but i appreciate it you know it's a good reminder like maybe you shouldn't be spending all your money on a joke t-shirt when actually they're like everything's on fire. Yeah, and there are races that money should be poured into in Georgia

that could actually, you know, help move some things in a proper direction for sure. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey and also the other podcast for 20 Day

Fiance. It's not a fiance talking 90 day fiance which is just you know a great salve on our reality wounds uh let's see another uh tweet that i like it what two from reductorist first one mom who blames young people for spreading covet 19 also demands you fly home for thanksgiving during pandemic very very true. And another one is study. 12 donuts too much. Six donuts not enough, which feels right because I can, whenever I get a dozen donuts, I get through three donuts instantly. Like the first donut is actually three.

And then I'm like, oh, I've had three. And then I'm like oh i've had three and then i'm like well then what's four and five and it's it's it's a slippery slope so if you're if you're out there donut gang you know we see you yeah eight it is a good uh and i think uh what something that doctors all agree is a perfect amount of donuts eight donuts a day keeps the doctor away so that's what they say yeah you do do you think that, have you ever actually polished off a full dozen like in one day? Because I have. No, I don't think I have. But I've used the argument around 9 p.m. when there's three left that, well, you know,

these shits are going to be bad tomorrow morning. Yeah. So like you might as well just get it in now. Right? Yeah. Everybody likes a dry donut. Right. Yeah.

Exactly. So I don't know. To each their own. I have eaten, like, a trash bag full of Reese's Cups in the past month. So, like, in a single night. So, yeah, it's not because I have better sense than that. I just haven't had the opportunity. I'm just at a different wavelength.

I'm more the garbage bag full of Reese's. Yeah, I'm more in that phase of my life. Tweet I enjoy, Garagi P. Henson said, I used to think Dr. Dre said looking like I'm Rob Liberace instead of looking like I robbed Liberace. That's pretty much all you got to know about me. I always thought it was looking like a mob Liberace. So I didn't realize it was Rob Liberace.

Rob Liberace. Yo, where's Rob Liberace? Looking like I'm Rob Liberace. And then Charlie at Berlant Bro tweeted, one of my students just said, seltzer tastes like when your foot falls asleep. That's true. Oh, shit.

Like the little pins and needles? Yeah. Wow. Topo Chico. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website,

DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles. What are we riding into this week upon?

We're talking about the state of Michigan a bit. A producer who I like, I mean, he's lived in Michigan for a while, and I don't know if he'll say he's from Michigan, but Sango, who I've played a few of his tracks before, but there's a new one called Benue State from Sango. It's got, you know, good rhythms to start your week. Just keep your energy up and keep that momentum going. Do good around you.

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