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Episode Date: July 18, 2022

In episode 1289, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, musician, and co-host of How Did We Get Weird, Jonah Bayer to discuss… The Cover Up Side of the Jan 6th Sh-t, The (Insert Generation Cohort Here) Hates/Loves Remote Work takes are weird, Movie Releases Are Confusing The Hell Out Of Everyone and more! The Cover Up Side of the Jan 6th Sh-t What is witness tampering? And could this charge apply to Trump? Gen Z actually doesn’t want to work from home ‘Only in Theaters’: Inside Hollywood’s Campaign to Get Audiences Back to the Big Screen Not Even Paramount Knows When Top Gun: Maverick Will Start Streaming LISTEN: Ready or Not Here I Come (Can't Hide from Love) by The DelfonicsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 246, episode one of their daily production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it is monday july 18th 2022 like you thought it was which of course means miles what was what is our national day you're doing the right thing because july 18th is world listening day okay and that's what you're doing right now it might mean maybe opening yourself up to other perspectives and opinions i don't know but in my just for my own benefit i'm going

to say this about podcasts that's just short for the world listening to the daily zyka's day exactly and nelson mandela international dayour Candy Day, and National Caviar Day. A very interesting mix. What a combo. Yeah. Didn't we just have World Gummy Candy Day recently? Yeah, yeah. It was gummy worms the other day last week.

I like a sour gummy worm. So this is my time of year, baby. I'm back. Leo's season is here. And so is sour gummy worm so this is this is my time of year baby i'm back leo season is here and so is sour gummy candy anyways my name is jack o'brien aka and i would drink a baja blast and i would drink 500 more just to be the man with diabetes and blood like adventure golf water that is a with Paul Garaventa

oh wait I should probably finish yeah shout out to Paul Garaventa and I'm thrilled to be joined as always always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Oh, it's Miles Gray. You know, just doing my thing, just hanging out. No AKs today. Just starting off the week as myself, Miles Gray, the no-ho god.

You know what I mean? Oh, right, this Monday. Yeah. Well, Miles, speaking of starting the week off right yes thrilled to be joined by a brilliant and talented writer musician and podcaster whose work has appeared in rolling stone spin stereo gum and who co-hosts the podcast how do we get weird with vanessa bear and jonah bear it's jonah bear guys, how's it going? Good. How are you doing? How are you doing, man?

Good. I mean, just ate tons of caviar for National Caviar Day. Nice. For breakfast. Oh my God. It was great. Yeah. If I see another egg, I'm going to fucking puke, man.

Too much caviar. Too much beluga, man. You did it. What's that one, there's like that one caviar shop in beverly hills that like whenever i walk by i'm like oh petrosian there's like a petrosian caviar like restaurant i'm like what kind like that looks like a place you're advertising that you want to be strong arm robbed when you walk like i can't think of a more like superfluous like endeavor to be like i went to the caviar restaurant today you'd be like

okay i'm gonna take your watch people talk about like going places to people watch like that is appointment viewing people watching just going there and seeing anybody who is strange enough to just go into a caviar restaurant yeah like i didn't know that existed yeah what do you think like the the target demographic for a caviar restaurant is? Like, I don't know. Like, you're a lawyer who gets, like, billionaires off for, like, war crimes and shit? Like, that kind of vibe, I feel like? Like, the bartender at the caviar restaurant has to deal cocaine, right?

Like, but it's, like's not even illegal at that point. It's just like... Oh, yeah, it's on the fucking menu. Yeah, yeah. I have a license to deal cocaine at this level. Yeah, it's all medical grade. This is a Petrosian boutique. It's like, oh, right, right, right.

Okay, I'm sorry. Like, I'm looking at their... They have caviar scrambled eggs. You know how much that dish is? 40 bucks. $36. Caviar scrambled eggs. You know how much that dish is? 40 bucks. $36. Caviar salad. Caviar salad is a $42 fucking dollars.

Caviar salad. I like how they're closed Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Okay. Just so you know. We don't fuck around on those days. We're Thursday through Sunday off. Well, that's when the really good shipments come through yeah exactly i feel like there's a lot of people a lot of ascots there i've started noticing that like very rich people at a certain point you get

so rich that you then start cosplaying as a very rich person again like you just like lose all self-awareness and you are you you just look incredibly like a rich guy from the 60s like screwball comedy right yeah and the reviews are fucking frightening like every it's all five stars because i think these are all like aspiring wealthy people like i mean there's really no other place to go for caviar. Like, really? That is the only voice you can really do. Really, JB from Costa Mesa? Truly. Appointment dining. I'm just going to, I might have to go by there this week and just take a couple photos and do like those TikTok videos.

Like, hey, man, what do you do for a living? Like, send people in their cars, people walking into the Petrosian restaurant. I want to go and interview people. Like, that needs to be, let's do that. I want to go and interview people. Let's do that. We got to do that. Just to interview. Nobody's going to agree to be interviewed.

Yeah, but fuck their privacy. Yeah, we'll blur their face for the purposes of the podcast. Jonah, where are you coming to us from? I'm coming to you from Western Massachusetts, the Berkshires. Okay. So, yeah. Are you from Massachusetts? I'm coming to you from Western Massachusetts, the Berkshires. Okay. So, yeah. Are you from Massachusetts?

I'm not from Massachusetts. I'm from Cleveland originally, and then I lived in the New York-Brooklyn area for about 11 years, and I've been out here for maybe five years or so. Oh, nice. Never met a bad person from Cleveland, I always say. Oh, yeah? Yeah. They're almost all good. You said that like

it was a challenge. Oh, yeah. Let me introduce you to a couple people. You know, I had this weird flashback. When I got my license in New York, I had an Ohio license. I remember going to DMV and I had all my paperwork ready and the person working there was like, Ohio people, they always got it down.

They always got the paperwork ready. He was like, I don't know if that's an Ohio thing, but that's another thing. But yeah, maybe the filter of Ohio people that moved to New York. Yeah. Like a different level of motivation or like, I didn't come this way to fuck up this DMV appointment. I left Ohio for this. And that is the same filter I'm dealing with because I'm not meeting too many Cleveland people in Cleveland. I'm meeting a lot of people who left Clevelandveland yes but yeah i feel like everyone's consistent like i feel like all

the people we talk to that are from cleveland like no yeah no it's people are chill people yeah usually people will be like oh yeah let me introduce you to my high school bully but yeah i don't know it seems it seems like a. It's a good spot. It's a good spot. Yeah. Yeah. See, look at this. It's a good spot. Nobody says that about their hometown.

Good opinion. How are the Berkshires? Beautiful. It's really nice here in the summer. There's a lot of nature, a lot of trees, a lot of, you know, art and culture. I mean, I really like not living in a city and I really like being out here. And yeah, it's really beautiful. Nice.

Sounds amazing. Have you, have either you been out this way before? I've been to Massachusetts when I was younger, I played a lot of hockey, but it was mostly like playing in and around like the Boston area. Um, so I'm,

I'm less, less versed in the outer areas of, of Massachusetts or outside of Boston. Yeah. I went to, I went to high school for two years in Boston. The, the aforementioned, before we started recording, we were talking about why, how it's a bad idea to ever give high school students the freedom of living in a dorm. That's why I was doing that in Massachusetts, but I didn't, I didn't get out to the Berkshires that much other than like once or twice, but it, it did seem very pretty out there.

It is. And I did kind of that dorm thing too. When I was 17, I did a five week guitar program at Berkeley College of Music in Boston. So I had that high school kid dorm experience in Boston as well. A lot of prank phone calls going on. With all the guitar kids though. It was a lot of guitar.

It was a lot of kids in practice rooms trying to play jazz or play really fast like shredding guitar right right right that was more the vibe right a lot of practice like when you watch kids go from like i like jazz guitar to being like i fuck with dream theater actually that's where i'm headed now a lot of people had the dream theater signature ibanez guitar for sure right right exactly that's what i feel like there's always like that fork in there i grew up a big music nerd kid as well. I always watched, like, the guitar kids be, like, getting into flamenco, like, shredder ripping metal, or being like, I'm, like, 5D chess brain prog rock shit. I don't know what any of that means, but it sounds great.

No, it's all good. All right. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're talking about the cover-up side of the January 6th shit. We're going to talk about all the stories about how various generational cohorts hate or love remote work. And who is behind those stories? They're wildly inconsistent stories.

Yeah. Constantly saying, this feels like an op. We're going to talk about the confusion around when a movie is coming out, if it's coming out in theaters, if it's staying in theaters, if it's going to be on VOD, all of that, plenty more. But first, Jonah, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh my gosh. So as you mentioned, I do this podcast with my sister Vanessa called How Did We Get Weird? And I'm always, it's a nostalgia-based podcast, so I'm always looking up stuff from our childhood. And I found this column in our childhood newspaper, the plain dealer called Monday moaning. And we've turned into a segment of the show where it was people just writing

into our local newspaper, complaining about the most mundane stuff. And somehow I was like, I wonder if yes, there was a thankful Thursday column as well, that not as successful. But I was like, I wonder if these yes, there was a thankful Thursday column as well, that not as successful. Right. But I was like, I wonder if these are archived anywhere.

Turns out they are. They stopped doing it about 10 years ago, but there's a bunch of them posted. And so we've been kind of like doing a new segment where we read them with guests and get their feedback on them. But I've just been going through all of these people complaining about, you know, like the school bus waiting too long in front of

their neighbor's house or like the mailman dropping a letter a lot of complaints about younger people on their cell phones um in like what context like they're like i don't like that they're on them or like they're on them in the restaurant or on the train just they don't like it seems like a lot of people are just yeah think the next generation is just too too on their phone which and this is 10 years ago so like they must be going back yeah they must not be but then one we recently found that was really funny was was it oh someone got told to be quiet at the movie before the previews had started wow yeah right i feel like i'd write in about that that that is preempt preemptive shushing is like all all right, you're like working too hard.

You're doing too much work in your brain and the anxiety that you've like generated. You've like sort of created a whole story where this person is going to continue talking through the previews. Just why don't you just wait and see? Yeah. Yeah. So that happened. And then the person getting told to be quiet wrote this letter to the newspaper saying this happened to me and they were complaining about getting told so it's to me that's my search history is a lot of reading these these letters basically yeah like whenever i'm like

in a like a smaller city like i always like to look at the like the most local paper because it you realize like how quaint sometimes like the problems are and like i remember one time like in british columbia like i was in this like weird like this smaller coastal town and i found their local paper and like one of the main columns on the side was this like argument between a city council person and like getting mad about dog pee versus dog poo on things and it was like taking up so much space but like the energy given to them like this is i'm glad that they're not talking about you know police murders or like shit like that and it's just about dog pee or poo is that the one where they were talking about like

carrying a squirt bottle with them like that that being like you gotta carry a squirt bottle and like no but i like this what do you mean like as a tactic to scare off a dog or something no no it's to you carry a squirt bottle maybe i heard about it on another podcast where somebody was like very proud that they carried a squirt bottle with them so that when their dog peed somewhere they would just like do shit with like water from their squirt bottle to but then like they were using that to like hang that over everyone else's head and then like you know at like be like you really should carry a squirt bottle and they became like the squirt bottle police oh got you okay which just feels like the way that good ideas happen and then get taken in the worst possible direction right what is something jonah that you

think is underrated here's what i think is underrated i like i think cheap stuff that you're gonna break or lose anyways and i'm talking specifically like i just got some $20 sunglasses i know i'm gonna forget them somewhere or break them and i'm gonna be okay with it i like cheap umbrellas all this stuff it's i like i like having nice stuff i'm gonna use it like how specific that one is i like i like just this stuff i know i'm gonna lose that it feels less the stakes are lower um when it's just i haven't spent so much money on it does that make sense yo yeah totally i love that i was definitely a sunglass person like that because i was like i remember the first time i bought sunglasses like when i was in high school i bought like

i don't know some no it was college i bought christian dior sunglasses because i was trying to like j-lo or some rapper or some shit and i lost those shits like in one month and i was so distraught over it i was like i only deserve shit I get for free at a medical fair. And now I kind of, I just recently bought like an $80 pair of sunglasses and I'm treating them shits like the fucking Holy Grail right now. But no, I do. It is liberating to have those like throwaway sunglasses for sure. Now, are you a pretty, like just looking at your background, it doesn't seem like there's shit scattered everywhere like that. So my issue is that like I have kids and we our house has like an inch of cheap stuff you're going to break or lose anyways on the floor at all times unless I'm like constantly cleaning up.

It's like a, you know, a snow like snow in Buffalo during the winter. It's just like it's going to be everywhere. Like you just have to make, make your peace with it. Like, how do you, how do you deal with the accumulation of it when you, you lose it,

but it's somewhere and it's just like around. That's tough. That's tough. I usually feel like the more I look, the harder it will be to find. So I try to just kind of take a break, come back to it later, and usually it will show up as soon as I stop looking.

Yeah, that's a good point. Exactly. And what, you pray to St. Anthony? Well, I'm doing that all the time anyway. Isn't that what the Catholics do for when you lose some? At St. Anthony? Yeah, probably. I don't know, man. I stopped paying attention to that pretty soon after the first confession

when I was like, oh man, this is stressful. Oh yeah, it is. Because I remember at my friend's house with the neighbors growing up that were Catholic, it was the first thing that mom said. I don't pray to St. Anthony. Yeah. And it's like, for my deodorant?

Just like, I'm not not gonna help you pray to fucking saint anthony i got a lot i got nine kids in this house like turn it over to saint anthony what's like okay joan i'm curious what's another thing you said sunglasses and umbrellas what's another like liberating cheap thing that maybe people don't think about that like it's like you don't need to spend a lot of money on that because you might lose it and maybe it's more freeing to buy the cheap one that's a really good question those are the first two that come to mind yeah no i agree coffee mugs i feel like you got you can get the occasional free coffee mug or hats like t-shirts you know yeah yeah man i'm i can't believe how many free t-shirts i hold on to. It's weird that I have an inability to throw away a free t-shirt.

And I have piles of most useless t-shirts that I think I give to my mom and she uses them as dish towels. That's like about, yeah, I can't, for some reason, I can't part with a free shirt. What's something you think is overrated? the free shirt what's something you think is overrated this might be a little controversial but i think uh cold brew coffee i feel like you know it takes 12 24 hours i'm just not into cold coffee i i like i like coffee a lot i like espresso drinks i feel like cold brew is like the payoff that just isn't there for the time it takes yeah i like cold brew for the power of it and i had a like one of those 24 hour like overnight things you had and it like kept fucking with me because like if i missed my 24 hour window i was like well shit then it's going to be ready in the middle of the day and i did

that shit right before i record and it completely like i lost all momentum with making it and now i just drink the concentrate uncut and that's just easier for me. When I met Miles many years ago, he was bragging about how he is caffeine insensitive. Caffeine doesn't affect him. And then I watched him drink cold brew and go clinically mad. Like, just completely lose his mind. I'm like, I don't experience any change, man. I was like, you're speaking at triple time what the fuck is happening do you like i i feel like that is another like i feel like i am learning

about you because that is another like opinion of somebody who's like i don't need the like crack version of caffeine that is delivered by cold brew is that you you like more of a steady slow drip yeah and i just like that i just like the hotter drinks are like more traditional i guess but you know i've also thought at times that i'm caffeine insensitive and i've never heard anyone else say that and is that is that a pos is that possible is that like a real thing it is anecdotally i feel like on twitter a lot I see a lot of takes of like, yeah, I used to say that all the time. And then I was diagnosed with ADHD. Okay.

Interesting. That may be a reason why I wasn't vibing with caffeine, but my mom is the same way. Like, so she would drink coffee like before bed just because she likes hot drinks and likes the flavor. So I don't know. I mean, my mom's pretty i i don't know if she has adhd but i think it's probably some some kind of real thing with their caffeine receptors the adhd thing is definitely real like i like i that's how i was with nicotine where i was like

i just need a little nicotine to go to sleep my wife was like that's a stimulant what the fuck are you talking about like that's not it's not how that works man i'm like i don't know my sleepy time gum yeah but yeah i don't i don't know like the cold brew does seem like a next level of of caffeine that i i like a lot of caffeine and i still try not to fuck with it too much because it's it's. Fucking with Jeff, you all get it. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break.

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Like their involvement, there's some speculation about their involvement in the beat by beat of this whole thing that might explain why they would have deleted the text message so i i remember hearing this that mike pence wouldn't get in the car with the secret service like they were like we gotta get you out of here we gotta get you to safety and he was like no i don't because if i get in there with you you guys are gonna like whisk me off somewhere and i won't be able to you know complete the votes right i said i thought he i thought he was just doing it like i think you guys are gonna kill me you're gonna shoot me man my brain is built out of uh pieces from action movies that i watched when i was a kid so like that that was the version that i got is that he gets in there

and then they use a big garret emmer some shit you know just a nice little tweet silencer and then um but that doesn't really make sense that's not how like a coup in the united states would go down unless steven seagal was involved and so that it seems like maybe a more reasonable narrative is that they let the mob create an unsafe environment at the Capitol. They come in, they're like, we got to get you out of here. And then that buys them time to then, you know, do whatever the next step of the non-certification cooing, which makes like that. That's the first version of this where I'm like, Oh, if you were doing a planned out,

carefully planned and not like a haphazard bullshit thing like that actually starts to make sense to me. Right. And I mean, there's all that coincides with like Chuck Grassley on the January 5th saying like, Oh yeah, Mike president or vice president president mike pence vice

president vice pence uh vice pepsi is not like suggested that he would skip the certification on january 5th and people are like wait why did he say that on the 5th right being like yeah he might not be there and it's like and i might have to do it like wait hold on what and then he like backtracked so there's a lot of it around it where constantly we're just being like so many people knew about what the fuck was going to go down and open their mouths at the dumbest times that you're just kind of like okay there's so many more questions than answers but clearly you can see that people there was a group of people who knew what was going to happen and others that had less of an idea for sure yeah

and it's just i don't know there's also like dhs officials tweeting like jan 6 is going to be crazy lol like right before and like dhs is like the that's who over oversees i think the the secret service it's like the people within the department that would have been involved in like all this shit going down so i don't know like i get i get the like sort of more stylist position on january 6th being like it doesn't matter they were never like we were never in danger of this group of dipshits overthrowing the u.s government they're idiots it's nothing compared to what we've never in danger of this group of dipshits overthrowing the U.S. government. They're idiots.

It's nothing compared to what we've done in other countries' elections, which is all, like, seems true. I'm just not sure how it makes sense to, like, be dismissive of the investigation before we know all the facts. And it does seem like the more we learn, the more it's like, oh, okay, I can i can at least like see what they were trying to do here and that definitely feels like the sort of thing that you wouldn't want somebody to do if they're going to be also the next president of the united states yeah i mean i think it's just uh it's just i think the part that makes it tough is like, despite everything that was even known, it's like, we don't even have like a justice system that like moves to correct it. So a lot of people are like, yeah, we know now do the part that shows there are consequences. Like, so for so many people, they don't need to be convinced much more. So for so many people, they don't need to be convinced much more.

And I think that's part of, for me, the frustration, like seeing all this. I'm like, I'm really curious to see what actual consequences are born out of all this, because it's not going to be enough to be like, oh, they did that. That's fucking that's the most frightening part of this is that it ends with, oh, and that's it. And, you know, as we see, like, Trump, you know, getting ready to announce, like, being a candidate in 2024, I'm also curious, like, is the media really just going to talk about this guy? Like, he didn't do all this shit, and just, like, the coverage about his candidacy is just going to be like, and he's going for it again, rather than this fucking guy

tried to steal the election last time. Why are we talking about him? But, you know, I think to be fair and balanced or CNN doesn't want to be too extreme. They'll just be like, yeah, he's going for another bite of the fucking apple. And President Trump going for another bite of the apple. Like, yeah, there's so much. I mean, this is like how the coverage of like Roe being overturned is similarly just like so middle of the road and like gamified and like well this is bad optics for the republicans and it's like uh this is bad

for humans right now yeah like your human beings that you're talking about a 10 year old human being that you're talking about and you're you're making it into like a story about bad optics man yeah like an episode of scandal or something right like olivia pope couldn't even save them it's like i don't think that's a necessary analysis in all of this but sure but yeah i think just looking at all just the back and forth with the secret service you know and even the fact that joe biden he came into office, they were like, we need to like fucking completely over, like flip these, like sub these guys the fuck out.

Like they already had questions, concerns about the people who were working with Trump, working with Biden. So there's a lot of stink coming out of there. And yeah, just like the, the process of like the inspector general being like, Hey,

we need those texts. And then they'm like, Oh yeah, one second. Oh, we deleted them just now after you asked for them yeah like that's a it's a bad look as they'd say in the media great for their optics the entire like watergate scandal was about the cover-up like that's the whole thing was the cover-up that was what everybody was so outraged about like this is joan i don't know if you're with me on this one but i've always said nixon That's the whole thing was the cover up. That was what everybody was so outraged about. Like this is,

Joan, I don't know if you're with me on this one, but I've always said Nixon, not so bad. I'm a big Nixon guy. No, but like when you look at like how far we've come, we're like,

we have nothing but evidence of like a cover up happening here. I'm like, that's not even like the story people are like even aware of or focused on is like yeah yeah no you're trying to cover it up it's i haven't paid that much attention to it i've seen stuff here or there but i'm curious like yeah what else it just seems like i don't know what would be a big deal at this point right right like because that last headline i saw was about him trying to grab the steering wheel of this car and they're like oh this is like a big bombshell and then it's like everyone's like okay and now it's they're racing the tech it's like i just feel like they're gonna keep digging stuff up where does it go to where does it go exactly yeah i don't know i don't know

if any of this will really ultimately have any impact i have no idea it and it bothers me like because i saw like an op-ed last week that was like saying like if the doj doesn't do anything it's gonna it's gonna harm their legitimacy and i'm like are are you hearing shit that they're not gonna do anything and that's why you're writing this op-ed to try and like signal to people that like they might fucking not you know really bring the full weight of the legal system down on these people. So I guess that's really all this is building up to. It's like,

yeah, I don't need to, like, I saw the Titanic sink, like, and yeah, I'm glad to know what happened inside the Titanic as it was sinking, but it was clear what happened from the outside enough that I'm like, what's going on with that now? Yeah. But, yeah, we wait with bated breath yeah if it does feel like

if they don't do anything if he just like wins again somehow like we like that we have enough evidence to be like he's never leaving office again like he's not just gonna do the dumb bad version of the coup this time like we we know know for a fact now, like, he is going to, we'll never have another fair election as long as he's alive. Like, so, I don't know. Maybe that's something to bring up as you're talking through this. Because people, like, the Democrats were so happy last week that, like, Biden was still up three points on Trump. It's like that's that's not the battle of who could care less. Right. Exactly. Sure. All right. Let's talk about another failing of the mainstream media. And this is the way that they're covering

like various generations loving or hating remote work during a pandemic i mean this has been i feel like one of the main like not main topics but one of like the bigger sort of societal shifts that came out of the pandemic that's like constantly debated of like is remote work good is it bad is it killing us is it like do we not know what our own faces look like because of zoom and like constantly hear about these different things like zoom fatigue we've covered all those things okay what'd you say i'm confused about that last one not knowing what our face looks like because it's like talking about how generally like people are like losing like certain mirror neurons aren't firing when you look at like a fucking zoom call too long there's like a whole there's like some other neurological studies about it and i say that like flippantly

but it was sort of like your brain is kind of like not using certain things. It could be when you're just looking like they're saying, like it affects like your ability to know where you are in space and time, like especially when talking to people in other time zones. Right. Your mind is trying to place your existence in physical space, like in relation to a video. And like they're saying, like it's like running your cell phone on like GPS location mode, but there's no cell service. So just draining your battery, trying to figure out where you are. Oh, your brain. I got it.

So it's like a subtle thing. But again, we hear constantly like, is it the pros cons? Do they love it? Do they hate it? And, you know, in the beginning, it was clear that a lot of people that had the ability or privilege to work remotely enjoyed doing so. In fact, like it was like a big thing that people can like pointed to when people left their jobs was people wanted to continue to work remotely or have the flexibility because, you know, the pandemic has changed all these things. But then as like the pandemic, you know, raged on, it was also clear

that like the boss class of people were starting to like unite in their sort of like message of like, Hey, let's, uh, let's get back to the office folks. How about that? Huh? Wouldn't that be fun? Like back to normal. I know the case numbers aren't going down, but like, what about if we went back to the office? And it's, I think, you know, it's clear that the commercial real estate industry clearly being hit by the lack of people in traditional office settings. And they, along with like other business interest groups were like really pushing hard like we saw them like whether it's from the government or the media like this whole idea like we're back baby like what but today you can like read pieces about remote work like in slate there was one about

like you know as a black employee remote work has done wonders for my mental health because I don't I no longer have to deal with like dumb fucking racist microaggressions or just weird bullshit that's born out of like having to be a black person in a workplace. And that comes along with, you know, people's unneeded analysis or suspicions, et cetera. Well, you can also find like articles that are saying everyone hates it. And I want to point at Business Insider for a second. In April, they had a piece that was called Return to Office is Driving Gen Z to Quit. And it talked about how much Gen Z workers, again, hated this push to return to the office.

It was they they weren't agreeing with it. They didn't like having their boss be like, I don't give a fuck if you're going to get sick, man. You have to come back to work. So I can just like watch you. But then you can feel my cold eyes digging. Yeah. Because you were asking you to get in here to look at something on my computer really quick that I think is cool. That like check out this meme.

Is that. Oh, man. I mean, I remember having a boss who was like, hey, check out this meme is that how it's pronounced oh man I mean I remember having a boss who was like hey check out this YouTube video I'm like you're fucking way too old for me to be calling me into your office to check out a dumb YouTube video anyway all I have to say is then at the end of last week

Business Insider put out a new piece called Gen Z actually hates working from home what like this is really like they're pointing turns out they hate it i like how they said actually you know like as if they know what they said in april like actually actually gen z actually hates like working from home and i'm like what the fuck is the thrust of this piece though they are pointing to surveys that show that like gen z were like the least interested age cohort in remote work when you compare workers in their 30s and older but like many commenters like on the article and just like on twitter and stuff

were like this shit is such weird bullshit they're like yeah i want to like extend my work day by hours to go to a place that's like terribly cramped in the middle of a pandemic no that's what i want can i read the first sentence here just say i want i want to get you guys's opinion on what they were going for here right for the youngest employees working from home isn't everything are they doing like the gen z thing like oh my god that is everything like are they like oh trying to do like a play on that yeah i i that went right over my head whoosh that sucks though that really is bad bad yeah what they're they're all pointing like articles like this and there's another one that was in fortune

magazine which we all know is the official outlet of the proletarian revolution um that they point to a survey of high school students to reinforce this argument this they're all drawing from this art this like one survey and i'm going to quote it quote less than a quarter of gen zers feel remote work is quote very or extremely important to them per the national society of high school scholars 2022 career interest survey the report which pulled nearly 11 500 high school and college aged individuals but mostly high school says that remote schooling during the pandemic may have turned swaths of gen z off from remote working so i'm like that's not a good sample size of the gen z workforce are kids who spent like have never worked years

of their like high school life indoors me like hey you want a situation that mirrors that as a work thing and they're like no right yeah like i would get it like if you were younger and you had you wanted to go to college in person right and you had to do most of your colleagues experience online maybe you would be like when i get in the workforce i want to be able to interact with people right and make friends i get that's like the socialization aspect but yeah i mean it also just seems funny when these places make like a sweeping generalizations about like a whole generation of people want this or that when it's like there's so much nuance and so much going on there right right it's like the

misrepresentation between like the opening uh like talking about the work like gen z workforce having this opinion and then going right to this is what high school and college students think they will want once they start working. Well, clearly, I'm sure they came up with the headline first and they were like, how can we find data to support this? It doesn't matter what it is from. Let's just find it. Yeah, they've had this headline ever since they wrote the article saying that gen z does like working prefer working from home and the better business bureau of every city reached out to them and were like what the fuck do

we pay you for what the fuck did we pay you for fortune magazine like get back out there and find me one that gen z actually doesn't actually put actually in the title sir like it how is that mr fortune and just interesting when you talk about like the things that they do like in this national survey of high school scholars it says remote work remote work doesn't even crack the top three things gen z is looking for in a job according to the high school student survey it said they prioritize fair treatment of all employees quality of life and flexibility and corporate social responsibility. I'm like, look, kids, you clearly haven't had your soul fucking ground to dust and blown away by some bosses fart into nothingness because you may realize like oh yeah that flexibility means not having to waste gas and shit to go to like my icebox of an office and number two is essentially remote work it's like it's basically contradicting the entire fucking point and i think it's fucked

up because yes i get for like what a person a young person who's about to enter you know their working career whatever thinks of what their life would be like. Yeah, you'd want to think like my job will be cool. I like my coworkers. We kick it after work. We go out for drinks and shit like that. But that's obviously they're they're more speaking from an experience that they're yet to have. But they're using this for like this very stupid, like pro business propaganda shit.

And I'm like, it's just confusing to read. It's I mean, it's so transparent that like they just couldn't get they couldn't get the results. They couldn't get the headline that they were looking for. And so they had to just lie, I guess, is kind of the only real honest way to put it. And I get there are like again every the week all we contain multitudes you can't treat anything like a monolith so i'm sure there are plenty of kids who are like yeah fuck that like the last i've been doing remote shit for a lot for a few years now and that's the last fucking thing i want to do i totally get that

but i think to like you're saying also saying jonah like to have this like hasty broad blanket generalization and be like yeah all of them fucking hate it right and they also don't and also never had a job yet but like i do wish this article had worked in more of these terminologies like this is everything or like turns out it isn't fire to be working remotely right right right it's like those previous surveys that said gen z actually wanted remote work that's all cap they said what market cap like oh shit fortune go to bed go to bed fortune i don't know you know i work in um like i'm finishing a graduate degree in clinical mental health counseling. And so I work, you know, in mental health.

And to me, it's like the remote work is like change everything. I mean, it's made it amazing, you know, having access to therapists, people getting help with mental health, all these companies starting up. So to me, there's just so, you know, doing a podcast like this from our houses, to me, there's so many benefits. There's just so, you know, doing a podcast like this from our houses to me, there's so many benefits. I find it hard to think that things will ever really go back to the way they were. And people go and commuting into these huge corporate offices and spending all day there when they know they don't have to anymore. Right. Yeah. the like boss you know ceo class of people to be like you don't need your big concrete dick symbols of buildings in a downtown to like demonstrate the might of your company in fact you'll probably save a lot of money by getting out of your like 30 million dollar fucking 40 year

lease or whatever the fuck you're locked into and then you can just build more anatomically accurate giant concrete dick symbols. Yeah, that's true. That represent your company because you don't have to like have people working inside them. So you get giant concrete dicks that are like 800 feet tall. Concrete dick obelisks coming to a downtown near you. Yeah, enough with all the, you know, bullshit about making them look like buildings. Do the damn thing.

I mean, so, do you think overall, like, and this is just my conclusion, is that the reason this group of respondents is responding this way is because they're being asked like a question that's too abstract.

Like, based on what they've experienced right like i'm not trying to because i'm not trying to be old elder geriatric millennial here being like yeah that's all bullshit none of these kids want that because i'm like i get the yearning for socializing and like you know the idea that being in an office can like foster connections that give you a network to be able to like you know progress your career advance it but i don't know like my take is they're asking kids whose souls have not been crushed yet and of course they're going to respond this way i think there's been a culture of like yeah i think they miss the socialization i also think there's been a culture of them trying to push like offices

that are fun they have like a beanbag room or like a ping pong table or something. And I think that couch. Yeah, that might seem fun if you are looking. Maybe that's like an extension of college or something. But I do think you're right. I do think that. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe I don't know. It's I've never met anyone that said I can't wait to go back to my office. I don't know. I'm sure I'm sure that I have not. Yeah, I'm sure those people go back to my office. I don't know. I'm sure that those- Truly, I have not. Yeah. I'm sure those people might exist in some context, but I mean, I don't know.

I also feel this is based on like a LinkedIn survey. Like it's like, I don't know, you know, we don't know what the sample size is. We don't know. I mean- 11,000 children, actually, is the sample size. Okay. All right.

I guess we do know. 11,000 college-aged or high school students and college aged kids but yeah i because like even with the perks right i remember early in my career like i remember seeing my friends who like went to like fancy like their offices were like fucking nice and i was like oh that shit looks dope because like meanwhile like the place i go to for lunch is a liquor store up the street versus like a building that like had a cafeteria and shit in and you're like oh look at this capitalist like fucking hellscape that's so shiny but even when i worked in offices like that had amazing perks like

you know wild ass thirsty thursdays and like barista cart like cooking up whatever fucking drinks you wanted that shit wore off like within the third month of working there. I'm like, I fucking hate my life and I just want to be home all day. Please get me out of here. Yeah, I think it's like living. I've never lived in those places, but like an apartment complex with all these amenities and then the price seems nice when you're and then you realize you probably never use almost all of them.

Right, right. Yeah. Yeah. and then you realize you probably never use almost all of them right right yeah yeah and you can work from home and have a social life with people you don't work with or the ones you want to hang out with from work you can go hang out with them but you have control over your life as opposed to being forced to come into an office and overseen by like that does feel like a big part of it is like having someone there who is overseeing you and like there is what like no matter what their management style is there is like some sense of like you are being judged and like this is going on your permanent record no

matter what and like that high school students and college age students don't really have the kind of profound long-term sense of like mental harm that that sort of environment does yet so yeah yeah if you look at like culturally like a show like the office right like the american version um like it's almost like this is just where you go. These are the people you're stuck with and you can make these connections or something. And it's like, yeah, you don't have to do that anymore. Like you can hang out with whoever you want. You don't have to be miserable.

So yeah, I think there's sort of maybe this nostalgic, like, I don't know, like maybe it's idealized a little bit in some ways. Cause I, you know, I think that show is still really popular with a lot of people. But, yeah, I think this new paradigm is is totally these CEOs are not happy about it for sure. Yeah. Where's that like spinoff show where it's Stanley and Oscar from the office texting their group chats and like this motherfucker, Michael, really just says shit about gay people right now. And everybody is laughing in here. And I have to pretend to go along with this shit.

He tried to kiss me, fam. Yeah, it does, I think, give people that idea. Like, it can be like a whimsical place. I think we'd be remiss because we do have somebody on the Zoom call who does represent Generation C. And I just, I would like to ask Super Producer Trisha. Oh, yeah. Just very quickly, Tricia, from your 10,000 foot view,

I don't know if you're hearing this or you, you know, you got something else happening right now, but Tricia, if you're there, would you mind giving your perspective generationally? Am I far off?

Am I an old man yelling at the sky? What do you think is happening? Damn. Real short notice. Caught Trisha lacking. My bad, Trisha. We'll cut that in later. No, this is being noted.

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They're very concerned that nobody knows when a movie is coming out, if a movie is coming out, that it is only in theaters. A lot of polling is showing consumer confusion. I feel that 100%. Yeah. Like, Top Gun 2 is still only in theaters like months after it was released i think i think it's i don't know i because i like am always like i i find it interesting to like see how movies are doing at the box office i like end up like kind of aware of like okay so that did really well so that's probably not going to come out on vod but like if you're not paying attention to that stuff it's just like yeah no top gun that came out like

months ago why is it still out and why can't i watch it on tv yeah i in my mind i just thought everything came out on streaming like that's what i've assumed actually for most of the pandemic like when a movie comes out and i'm always like, oh, this shit's only in theaters like that. I'm always like ready to sit down and be like, what the fuck? It came out today and realizing it's only in theaters for certain things. But I don't even doesn't even make sense like what they're prioritizing by putting in theaters these days. Like, I'm pissed that I didn't realize that RRR, which is still my favorite movie I've seen this year, the kind of Bollywood action musical,

just extravaganza, like, that shit's out in theaters. I didn't realize that was out in theaters. Like, I should have seen that in theaters before I watched it in three chunks on an iPad over the course of two days. Could you do a three-hour? I can't,

man. I, I, I feel like three hours. I really have trouble staying engaged in a, in a movie theater for three hours. Maybe I just need to go do that. Just go watch it.

Cause then, yeah, I can take pee breaks and it'll be, I won't be missing that much. You know, Jonah, what's your, what's your been your like movie consumption pattern?

Are you, are you even like watching stuff? You've just given up. You you're like I don't know if it's good enough I'll find a DVD somewhere I was just thinking about this and it's like you know think about that the Irishman that Scorsese movie that came out in 2019 it was like a really big deal that it was coming out on like Netflix and in the theaters and now it's we're so used to it like i feel like now like you're saying we expect everything so i would find it hard like i have like an indie theater near me that and i'll just kind of go check out whatever's there but i can't remember last time i specifically was like i want to go see like a blockbuster film at like a chain theater i think it would take a lot i don't know for me to leave the house.

It takes a lot. That's to be really good. I'm going to leave. Yeah. I mean, the last one I saw in the theater was Jurassic Park Dominion or whatever, the lost world Dominion or old Dominion university, whatever it was called.

Yeah. Old Dominion university. Yeah. Old Dominion university. Like, and that I also, my first assumption was it was going to be on streaming and i had to quickly be like oh shit i gotta do the fucking like movie

theater for this and i think now it's already like on streaming like even in like within like wasn't there like some prescribed window that like like the studios were trying to do where it's like all right we'll give like a 40 some day yeah 45 days was i think pretty standard um heading into the pandemic and then um and that even seemed short like before i know christopher nolan has like 90 days written into his old contract and um yeah it's like now it's basically you know the the uh blackow movie came out on streaming and had a massive theatrical release on the same day. And I think people think it didn't do well because of that. Right. Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

People are back. They are seeing movies in theaters. back they are seeing movies in theaters so like a big reason this is on people's minds is that this movie the gray man starring ryan gosling as someone who's like easy to forget when you see them like the idea of the gray man is like you know a cia agent who's like you know just blends into the background to the point that like they can get away with doing stuff. Like a white guy? This sort of like, yeah, exactly. This like forgettable figure.

And it's like, yeah, so we'll get the handsomest human being like on the planet to play that role. Forgettable dude. Yeah, forgettable dude. But anyways, it's like a big it cost i think 200 million dollars like there was the budget for it and it's coming out just on netflix like they're uh just putting it on netflix and like doing a theatrical like a limited theatrical release like it's an indie movie um but so that's coming out this weekend a lot of people seeing the ads for that are like, wait, what? That, but that's, you're giving me ads like it's a blockbuster. It has kind of like opened pandora's box for like the sort of obscuring or blending together of like film and streaming that like the prestige the

perceived prestige is getting diluted a little bit because now our idea of like what a big movie is we also kind of expect to be on our tv at home and it's almost like yeah whatever i don't give a fuck about the theater like can i stream it right now and is that kind of like is that beginning to change how we're even like perceiving what a film is or not you know yeah i think so i think it's very similar actually to like the remote work idea where people would it be like oh this is never possible And then you see it's possible and people don't want to go back. Like, I bet you Forbes write an article like, Gen Z doesn't like streaming movies at home.

They love spending $50 to go to the theater. Yeah, every time a movie comes out that doesn't do well at theaters, they write that article. They're like, turns out Gen Z is rejecting the yeah or or i guess every time the movie comes out that does do well top gun i'm sure they were like there were 20 think pieces they were like turns out gen z is ready to go back to theaters right is is gen z responsible for the death of the cinema yes you know it's like i don't know are are is everybody like young broke as shit right i'll put that question too like instead of being like with the millennials it's like they like

avocados more than house rather than being like they've been fucked multiple times by recessions and then with gen z it's like i don't know these kids like used clothes how they dress it's like the little more thrifting. I don't know. What do you want me to say? You're like a little, little bit of difference there. But yeah, I feel like there's part of the confusion is like, I don't know if it's a good or bad thing for like the movie industry because like you're spending $200 million

and people are like, I don't know. Is that like a TV show? You know, I'm like, and we also have so many prestige tv shows with like with like talent that we used to silo in our minds as being like film talent or tv talent that i think it's all coming together now to just become like the audio visual industry um yeah i don't know if that's like if that's like a more of a meta problem that they have to consider is like people aren't i don't know how many people are taking in stuff is like being like it has to be in theaters like maybe avatar too like has a shout for something like go home avatar yeah like the the gray man thing like i i feel like i don't have like strong

opinions or like no i guess nobody's figured it out but like when i see something that feels wrong i know it and like the gray man not being in theaters doesn't make sense to me like they should have released it in theaters and like i think the only reason they didn't is because like netflix paid for it and so netflix is like no we we want it to be like the big netflix thing but like that they should have released it. It's the type of movie, like a big budget action movie that has an amazing cast.

That's the sort of thing that's supposed to come out in theaters. And then you can put it on Netflix. But guess what? Gen Z doesn't fuck with cinema anymore. So now it has to be on streaming it even seems like an odd business decision for netflix who's like being like we're viable as a business like you're not going to turn the like box office revenue spigot on right and just be like it's for the

people maybe we'll draw in more people with this film right like their whole thing is like that they know a lot about what people want to watch. Like that's supposed to be like the thing that makes them different. Like you could definitely apply that to theatrical movies as well, but yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Put your prayers up, put your prayers up for them.

Prayers up for the movie industry prayers up for the mouse house. And, uh, the, what are, what are the shitty like trade nicknames for all the other ones? I forget. It's the house that Mouse built, right? And Mouse House.

I don't know if there's other. I don't know, dude. I've avoided the industry trade magazines for a while now. Unless I'm reading about Armie Hammer selling timeshares in the Cayman Islands. What a run. Well, Jonah, it's been such a pleasure having you.

Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah, sure. You can check out our podcast on iHeart. Also, How Do We Get Weird

that I co-host with Vanessa. They are my sister. Thank you so much. So we have a new episode out today with Michelle from Japanese Breakfast. Oh, dope. So that's a really fun one. And I'm on Twitter, Jonah and Bayer. And yeah, you can check on my website.

I do a lot of music writing. And yeah, that's pretty much it, I guess. Nice. Your sister's character on Weekend Update of the young boy, like I think having a bar mitzvah, or I forget the name. Jacob, the bar mitzvah boy, partially inspired by me as a 13-year-old. I've always wondered that. It is, I think, one of my top five snl characters of all time it's so good and like

deeply just like perfect and human it's like so so wonderful so yeah yeah it's like it's like some of the best snl characters always based off someone's sibling like garth is like dana carvey's brother oh is it? I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. Yeah. Amazing. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? I like,

uh, I don't know if you're familiar with John Worcester. He plays drums in a bunch of bands, super chunk, the mountain goats. He plays with Bob mold a lot. He is on social media. I feel like just one of the funniest people a lot of it's music oriented but

yeah John Worcester is just someone I've I think it's great on social media very funny very silly amazing check it out Miles where can people find you what's a tweet you've been enjoying Twitter Instagram at miles of gray G-R-A-Y because I see a lot of y'all

hitting me up with a G R E Y spelling. And that is upsetting. Cause that's not my name. Also check out the other podcasts, you know, miles and Jack got mad boosties. That's the basketball podcast. A great episode this week or this last week with a CJ Toledano.

Check out for 20 day fiance where I talk 90 day fiance with Sophia, Alexandra, some tweets that I like. Check out 420 Day Fiance, where I talk 90 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. Some tweets that I like. First one is from Wactose Intolerant at Millie Tamara's tweeted, listening to classic rock and in parentheses, kids by MGMT, which is how I feel when you go to classic rock stations. And then this other one, I'm just going to put it in the Twitter chat or the Zoom chat so you can see the picture.

It's from Gators Daily at Gators Daily and it's a picture of a big giant, like looks like ran over, like gator and it just says, it's flat fuck Friday. This fucking gator is so big and looks like a

flattened piece of chewing gum. It's not like road kill. It's just how it looks. But I just like the aggression of it's flat. Fuck. Right. Um, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. I've been enjoying a tweet from Joe at Gulcher tweeted reminder,

not to put sunglasses on your dog for a fun picture in the sun. This is actually very bad for the dog as it gives them a false sense of confidence and makes them look really cool, which can be dangerous when you take them off again and they have to go back to normal dog. And I also liked CuteNatureBF tweeted, If I had a girlfriend, I would take her to get ice cream and then pretend I don't hear anything as she totally blows up my toilet later, which is the nice thing to do. Boyfriends out there. Boyfriends of the world.

Yeah. Let go of that adolescent urge to be like, Oh, need a plunger. Yeah. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes on our footnotes.

Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? I think, you know, William Hart, who is the lead singer of the Delphonics, passed away last week. And the Delphonics are fantastic, you know, R&B soul group. But also, like, for lovers of hip-hop, the Delphonics have provided many samples. This wonderful art form we call hip-hop. So let's go out on a track that informed two banger tracks the first one what so the track uh just so you know is called ready or not here i come and that inspired

the fujis ready or not here i come and also sampled socket to me by missy elliott also that horn sample uh it's just like all their music's fantastic and i'm sure many people are familiar with the delphonics even if you don't know them explicitly. So check out Ready or Not, Here I Come by the Delphonics. Rest in peace to William Hart of the Delphonics. And yeah, just enjoy the smooth soul silence of the Delphonics.

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