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Episode Date: August 12, 2025

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it's a game of inches you know what they say those inches are everywhere around you uh she just bring everywhere sorry i just got to get my alpuccino right and then we can bring them in they're all around you those inches got a great ass yeah i was got to say you have to get great ass all right how about we bring tim in and you talk for as long as you can as Okay, all right, all right. Ready. Here you are. Here comes, team.

Yeah, man. Hmm. Yeah, baby. Love a bit of water. Mm. Water. Okay. Too much.

All right. What's up, Tim? Good, oh, good afternoon. Yeah, yeah. Good morning. Yeah. Timbats, the Batman. Batman forever.

Batman begins. The Dark Night Rises. It's a great film. Never a true word spoken. And accurately describing my situation, it is 25 to 7 in winter in the morning. Wow, okay. And it's Tuesday there too.

Yeah, it's all fucking upside down. It's topsy-turvy. Jack, what are you saying about Batman's, like when you look at him from the back? he got a great ass and you got your head all the way up it this is

an energy that I hope can be maintained for an entire episode of the podcast Jack's just talking it's just how I talk Tim fantastic Tim Guy and I did an entire we did an episode

we got super stoned thought it would be funny to start the episode with accents from Tennessee and managed to maintain it for 40 minutes. God damn. I don't know how accurate it was,

but it was a lot of fun. Is that what Jack's, is Jack doing a Tennessee accent? I don't think, I don't know. Tennessee, Tennessee. Lord, I really. Been real out. Down and out.

The location is, is an emotion rather than a city for a state. Vaguely Cajian. Yeah. Even though I'm supposed to be from upstate New York. You're someone's dead

with what you have a complicated relationship with your son. Someone's uncle, Tim. Do you want to review the answer, Jack? It's supposed to be Al Pacino. I was trying to do Al Pacino, but... It is definitely a Al Pacino. It's Alperino. It's our version of Al Pacino.

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Yep, yep, pretty good day. Pretty good national Julianne fries. day which i didn't know that was a thing like i guess this the skinniest yeah shoe strings and i guess i was thinner than shoe strings even yeah i mean the picture that they're showing here these don't even look like french fries i think they have i think they're showing a Thai papaya salad i'm not joking this is right anyone i'm like i think this is papaya salad that it those are Thai that it's a Thai Papaya salad. They just put it as

Julian French fries because they're running this fucking website now. And like a lot of Americans probably don't know what, you know, a type of pie salad is.

No, they don't. They're like, isn't it supposed to be sweet? Although it is fun to watch someone eat an actual type of pie salad for the first time

realizing how spicy that shit is. How spicy it is? It hits, like when you first put in your mouth, it doesn't feel like it's going to be that spicy and then, who.

Yep. Some of the, some of the strongest afterburners I've ever experienced tell them it's also a national vinyl record day I can get behind that and also national middle child day hey shout out to us middles out there just desperate for your approval and attention just to be observed shout out to us who producer catherine oh shout out all the middle children all all all all all all all all all right my name's jack o'brien aka oh michael jackson billy jean ain't no wooder ice I seen can make your pants smell like this

Indiana, Ohio, Jack O'Brien has to know It wasn't water ice, it's piss Oh piss, yeah I said piss Wooder ice ain't yellow like this Oh piss, yeah I said piss Wooder ice don't quite smell like this That one courtesy of Christy Amoguchi Man on the discord The great

Chris Yamaguchi, Maine in reference to the discourse around the song, Home, Miles, did you miss that? The Tiny Desk Concert Home while you were abroad? Yes, I think I did miss that. Everybody was talking about.

You know that song, it's like, Oh, dang-bra-d-da-da-da-home. That's where I'm going. Oh, yeah, yeah. I thought you were doing Bob Dylan or some shit. I was trying to do Edward Sharp in the Magnetic Zeros. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew someone who played accordion in that band.

Oh, hell yeah, man. There was like a tiny desk concert clip that was going viral with people just being like, worst song ever made. Oh, wow. People didn't know. And the lyrics written on the video. So you could just see that it was like, peanut butter, chocolate pie. My, my, I love my guy.

It's just like random. him shit. Hey, as long as everybody's white and wearing linen, it was all good, baby. The girl singer at one point does a smacks her head and does like a doio like, boom, and like her hat

falls off. It's got great performance. Anyways. Wait, was this this was new or the old like they're old? Yeah, I was going to say like there's no way people are still checking for Edward Sharp and the magnetic zeros are they? Yeah. I just I don't think most people knew he looked like that. partially, you know, that he, like, had white, white dreads energy and, uh, and then, like,

hadn't really thought about the lyrics. Oh, yeah, there's home girl. That's Nora on accordion. Shout out to Nora on, not Nora on accordion. But yeah, also reference to the fact that I wrote a ride down the shore and someone had apparently slipped a piece of frozen piss into my pocket before I went on the ride. And then when I came off, my pants were wet and everybody claimed I pissed myself, but that's not true. Anyways, I'm, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I mean, how do I follow that, aka. I'll just keep it short.

It's me, Miles G. And the place to be, just touch down back in the valley. Thank you so much for having me, the people of Denmark. And I'm so sorry that in numerous times I heard Danish people talk about how Greenland is not for sale. I know that. I'm not interested. There's a lot of apologies being exchanged when they're like, oh, you're like. exchange.

They're like, it's like, oh, I'm sorry. And like, I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. They're like, no, I'm sorry. It's like sort of like, oh, God, you had to admit you were an American. Right. It's like, oh, sorry. I didn't mean to ask where you're from. Yeah, not like, oh, I'm sorry.

And I'm like, no, I'm sorry. And then we'd laugh. And I'm like, they're like, no, I don't have a problem. One guy was like, I don't have a problem with it. It's like, no. You should. Yeah. And I was like, I was like, bro, I don't even fuck with that place.

And he's like, fuck. Yeah. Yeah, boy. Yeah, anyway, shout out to the wonderful people of Copenhagen. Anyways, welcome back, Miles Greer, in the place to be. Yep, yep, in the place to be. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorites, a multiple award-winning comedian podcast or producer who co-hosts the podcast,

The Worst Idea of All Time with Guy Montgomery, a very funny chat show host. Welcome back to the show, the hilarious, the talented, Tim Baugh! Hello, everybody, and welcome to the next. day of your life from Altiaro, New Zealand. I'm in the future. Yeah, what's it like? What's it like in the future?

It's still a little dicey. Okay. What? We haven't fixed everything up just yet. All right. We're close though, right? I kept saying, fuck this day over and over again.

I thought that was going to be what did it. Tuesday's a good one. I don't know national record day. Come on, Jack. That's true. Keep your chin up. The Batman. Mm-hmm.

anyways that's great Pacino's back Pacino's back you are coming to us I'm a little later you are all the way tomorrow because I'm on the east coast miles on the west coast

you are all the way tomorrow yeah cutting edge always always amazed by your ability to be up bright-eyed dressed in clothing so well done on that I don't know about bright-eyed I hear that we get a lot of

fan mail because our podcast is tremendous. We get emails if people come in. And someone yesterday said on the podcast, Tim, since you've been doing all the video of the podcast, I've now got an opportunity to see what you look like after all these years. And I had no idea you look so much like Willem Defoe. And it's true. I do look a bit like Willem Defoe.

And I think the most that I look like Willem Defoe is we both have very tired eyes. Do you think I'm not giving you? Can you go like this? just like is oh yeah am I trying to go for like hobgoblin is that what you want for me there's like that one defoe has a little bit of a

gargoyle like energy to me yeah definitely it's like it would be if your face was mixed with a gargoyle on a like 7th Avenue building in New York City like then you would get Willem Defoe yeah I think you're more handsome than Willem de Fo to be honest

oh that's very kind I think Willem Defoeza, handsome man. And I think he seems like a cool guy. Yeah, he seems like he's fun. I like it, too. I feel like he'd be a lot. He seems like a good hang. He's up for some banter, I think. Yeah.

He is doing the ads, but the ads, his ads are for beer, and he's like hustling people, stealing people's money. So there's like an edge to him. I reckon he's got the perfect attitude to it, though. I think he's doing the ad so that he can make every art house film that he wants to and still keep his house. Right. He's like, yeah, I'll knock out a, you know, PBT ad or whatever

so that I can do independent films for the next three years to keep my house. That's right. That's the way to go. Yeah. That's the way to do it. I'm not crazy about Steve Martin and Martin Short doing Wells Fargo. That's a little harder to take. Especially when it's like, you guys are probably making enough from, what is it?

Only murders in the building. Murders in the house. Oh, where my first are at? All right, Tim, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We are going to talk about a date psychology survey that they surveyed asking cis straight women, what are the most and least attractive hobbies a man can have. And the answers will shock you.

No, I think they do, shed a little light on some things that are happening in our zeitgeist. So we're going to talk about that one up top, specifically the Sydney-Sweeney thing, why that's such a big deal for Republicans at the moment. All of that, plenty more. But first, Tim, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Waffle recipe, two words, and a unique insight into. how I'm spending about every second morning at the moment at my house, which is making

waffles for my one and three-year-old. Wow. I've got two boys. The three-year-old's getting pretty picky with what he eats. We're trying to find the balance between not making it a huge deal, you know, that eat his vegetables and fully put him off vegetables for the rest of his life and get some things that he's actually going to eat. And something that he will never turn down at the moment as waffles.

And we've got this cool waffle line, so I don't mind making them. But in New Zealand at the moment, butter is horrifically expensive. So it's probably not the most economical way for me to be spending my mornings. Just putting like half a stick of butter into a waffle line. Is waffle mix not just readily available or like Biskwick? Isn't that what we're just kind of lying around? Do you actually summon the rest? You guys pre-make it?

You just buy it as a pre-made thing? Oh, this is America, baby. God damn. You don't have to do shit. Have a little pride in yourself, man. Oh, no, no, no, no. Figure out how to make waffles. It's not hard.

Here's what's in it. And the only reason I have to Google it all the time is the quantities. Bacon powder, basic flour, a little bit of salt, two eggs, warm a milk. And that's the secret ingredient. You've got to warm that milk up a little bit. Two eggs, you separate them out, you whisk up the whites, and then you combine it all afterwards, a quarter of a cup of sugar.

I don't know why I've put the quantity of the sugar and nothing else, but there you go. Good you know. And either vegetable oil or a bunch of butter, depending on what we've got. So much butter. Yeah, it's got to be butter. This is good. And now people, instead of re-googling the quantities, they're just going to index this web, this podcast and just keep coming back to this podcast. Keep playing it over and over again.

You've got the ingredients. You get to hear the ingredients. That's right. Guess the quantities of everything. It should be sweet. But I think it's a window into like, you know, how small life does become when you've got two kids under five in the house. I went through my search history.

It's all very boring work-related stuff. Yeah. You can't get me this time NSA. Similar thing, which was like, why two-and-a-half-year-old not like food all the time? Exactly. Really good. And that's why you have really good skills. You know, before the show, Tim mentioned.

Why two and a half year old not like food? Old man sperm risk. Why 2.5 year old not like food all the time? You're a professional communicator, my man. It's all about the economy of words as I learned. Google's like, now honestly, man, could you just be like a little more specific? Yeah.

Like what the fuck are you talking about? I would love if that was the tone of Google. Yeah, if Google was helpful. I have the total of human knowledge but can you help me out a fucking little bit? Yeah, I'm not a fucking mind reader. Do we know if Google, when they have a search like that, are they like, ding, ding, ding, ding, we got one, you know,

and like start serving you, like, viruses and shit that, like, that older people are going to click on, you know what I mean? Like, people who don't know how to use Google, like, do they adjust their search results so that they're designed to just rob the elder? Definitely. I reckon there are advertisers on there who have made viruses and they've figured out what boomers, older boomers search who don't know. But here's the other thing. When's the last time you had to deal with the computer virus? They used to be a big part of our lives. Back when it was like you had the family computer that was in the one room that everyone shared. And you knew someone was using porn sites. Yeah. Everyone was on virus watch. You had to actually know what Norton was and how to use it. And now it feels like they've kind of gone. on a way. Every now and then your whole shit will be rocked by some like crypto scam where they encrypt your hard

drive and hold it to ransom. But apart from that, it's pretty smooth sailing on the internet these days. For real. What is something, Tim, that you think is underrated? Pamela Anderson. We forgot about her, I think, as a society. Forgot about Pam. Naked Guns back. She's doing the

press tours and it's so nice to see her. She is I'm sure all listeners will know has taken a stand to basically in all her public appearances, not wear makeup now. So she's just totally fresh face. She hasn't had the work done. She looks beautiful.

And she just seems like a really cool person. It appears that her and Liam Neeson have probably hooked up off the back of making the movie together. Yeah. And it's just nice. It's just like it's too nice. It's, you know, it's your mum has found a new fella and you're a little worried at the start. But then you go to dinner and they're real cute together and he just seems like totally smitten with her and a lovely dude.

So your mom in this metaphor is Liam Neeson. My mom is Liam Mason. It's right. Today and always. My mom has been. And my stepdad will always be quagong gin. Yeah, that's seeing them together, I was like, and hearing how they just sort of give each other such glowing compliments

in these like appearances. I'm like, oh, look at them. I think we were saying they're like, they've been through some shit, both of them. So I'm like, I feel like hopefully, I hope y'all have really found happiness. I'm going to say happiness. That's what it is, right? Happiness, Miles. You can't get your mind out of the gutter when it comes to Pam Anderson.

Sorry, man. Sorry, bro. Old habits. Old habits. Oh, shit. Wishing Pamelaer and well, saying I wish you faithness is. Fappiness that you deserve, Pamela. But, no, it is.

It is. It's off the back of, like, we're, you know, a little bit aware of what they've been through in their lives. Pam Randerson, man, because there's a lot of people who sort of didn't make it through that maelstrom of being a sexual object from such an early age during, in retrospect, a pretty toxic time in the culture to be a woman on screen, like the early 90s onwards. And Pamela Anderson was sort of like at the apex of her. And had her privacy invaded. had, you know, they made a movie about it. Bad times. Yeah, had to sit across from Jay Leno constantly.

And like, hey, what about this? When you are, Nicky, what do you think? And she's like, why don't you shut up, fool? I have to say, I have enjoyed everyone's sort of reassessment of Jay Leno recently. And then, like, John Oliver's comments about him, he was like, I'm not fucking taking comedy advice from Jay Leno. And I was like, yeah, fuck that guy. Fuck, Jay, well, he was the king for so long.

But I think now that he's gone, he was. everyone's like yeah that guy he sucks right right i'm here for it i'm here for that not me i'm still lenin still lennox team leno fuck team cocoa team leno from it's because you've got a good chin i reckon you've you're you've got chin game strong and you see a fellow brother-in-arms yeah copping strays and you're like not on my watch not uh not although also gene on gene is my is my go-to get off this podcast and get into three types of genes three layers of jeans just like my man Jay

yeah I feel like Jay Leno has been pretty even like when he was king of late night it was kind of I put it in the same family as like Big Bang theory in that it's like as it was popular

everyone was like who the fuck are these people I love this shit it's their phenomenon of being in the middle of everyone's love and hate right it's like it's not offensive enough for anyone to turn it off no one well very few people are that in love with this sort of TV character but they just exist enough in the middle

to keep swimming around and maintaining I hate to say I'm going to say it because I don't know if you guys can Jimmy Fallon you know right definitely the the proto example of that at the moment I will I will say that what I just said is probably misleading in the direct like probably too insulting to the Big Bang theory because I do know people who actually are like the Big Bang Theory is actually good. The joke writing is strong on that show. I don't know anybody who rides for Jay Leno

or Jimmy Fallon like that. I have to take your word on it for Big Bang Theory. I haven't heard anyone defend that, but fear play to you. Live your life. That's what you're watching. You know what they say? The numbers don't lie, fam. The numbers don't lie. Okay.

Helves on the Big Bang Theory. Talking about the numbers then. Yeah, the Big Bang Theory also stole everything from black artists. did, yeah. What, uh, Bazinga was first said on, I don't know. A DJ.

Listen to this, listen to this Delta Blues recording from 1938. Imagine if instead of, I ain't afraid of you motherfuckers, so it was just, Bazenka. Oh, yeah. They're like, that's what Bernie Max catchphrase from the famous I ain't afraid of you, you motherfuckers said. Uh, what is something you think is overrated, Tim? Guy Montgomery and I

do a podcast called in just like that which you kindly mentioned at the start it is famous for us watching sort of bad movies too many times we've reviewed grown-ups two 52 times and both the sex and the city movies 52 times apiece

worst idea of all time is what it's called right yes fittingly and most recently we have been watching and just like that season three in real time I've put that as overrated almost just as a little opportunity to give it a shout out. There's two things going on in my life right now.

My two beautiful boys and Sarah Jessica Parker and her friends and what they're getting up to in their middle age on and just like that. It's just been announced that the whole concept of the sex in the city universe is ending with this thing. This is how they're going out. That's right. And they didn't know that at the start of. this. So this is the third season of, and just like that, which is sort of set, I don't know, roughly like 15 years after the last time we saw the gals. Samantha Jones is kind of

famously not in this show. Right. And it has just been amazing watching them groping around in the dark over three seasons, trying to figure out how to get back into the zeitgeist, effectively. Carrie Bradshaw had a podcast with Bobby Lee at one point. I remember that. Shea Diaz is this non-binary character who got with Miranda and they had this very sort of complicated relationship as Miranda's trying to figure out who she is. And everyone hated Che Diaz too. I remember that character was just like,

it was like, God, I can't stand Cheathe's. Well, that's the thing. And it made it very tricky, right? Because they were the most diverse character on the show. And also the most easily hateable, they were also a stand-up comedian. And you did get privy to some of Shea's stand- up and they were not good.

Yeah. Never a good. Bold decision to put it on screen. Oh, man. Well, and then I just saw in this season, too, like, to your point about they don't know what the fuck's going on, how Nicole Ari Parker's, like, father died, like, in the first season. Yeah.

And then also died in the third season. Like, hold on. That was in season. What the fuck? Do you all even know what happened in your own show? In her previous season, she's bonding, I think, with Miranda at one point, and she's like, oh, You know, yeah, it was so hard when my dad died a couple of years ago. And then in this season, there is an entire episode dedicated to the fact that her dad just dies.

And then we go to the funeral and everything. And then when everyone rightly called this out online, they were like, what the fuck is going on here? They, not even in the show, but just I think Michael Patrick King came out and reconda is being like, oh, no, one of them was his stepdad. We just forgot to say that out loud, something like that. But also, this isn't just that. Like, Carrie Bradshaw has been claiming that she's been with Aiden for 22 years, which is just not true. Like, Big was there. At the beginning of this run.

And then some allegations came out against Chris Knoth, who's the actor that portrays them. So they killed him by Palaton, which in real life, like, tanked Palaton's share price briefly when that episode aired. And then Big has been erased from history. And now they're trying to pretend like Aiden's been on the scene for two decades. Come on, guys, we've been watching. You can't fool us like that. Wasn't he trying to get with him? And he was like, no, I got to be with my family, like with my kids or something.

I felt like that was happening in the first, whatever. But he's regular sex in the city, big? No, no, no, no. Oh, Eden. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I tell you what I was, that just disappeared. I'm glad you're on board because you're talking to the right guy. I'm so thick in the weeds with this shit.

The reason it's kind of interesting at the moment is they have one episode left of all of the whole sex in the city thing now because HBO, who I don't even know, eventually it's probably Mickey Mouse, I guess, owns everything. So whoever at the top has decided, we've got to pull the plug on this thing. This is not going well. It's costing us too much money. So mid-season, they've announced that this is it for everything forever. and now we've got one last episode to wrap up approximately 1,000 storylines that they've opened up across this season of the show.

It's been like a really ADHD approach to television making. Yeah. Just opened things up and never returned to them. And there's a thousand characters living a thousand lives. Amazing. Is there anything they could do in the final episode? Like, could it all have been happening inside? carries mind and she's like kind of lost it or something like that or you know so they're like

that was all intentional then fixing the gas leak would be the most hilarious cop-out solution to all of this right right right right has been a figment of her imagination they've also done this thing which they did in the movie so guy and i obviously watched sex in the city two 52 times and there is uh who is it hold on let me let me bring this have I got the right movie? Because now, because I've watched both movies are combined 100 times, they also go together in my head. So I've

really got to get this right. Jennifer Hudson is in the first movie as a friend of Carrie Bradshaw, but she doesn't interact with any other characters in the film. So Guy and I developed a law that she is an imaginary friend of Carrie Bradshaw.

And not for nothing, she's basically the only black person in the movie. In this television series, I think they've taken a lot of criticism about it being such a white show. So they've added a lot of diverse characters. But in some form of sex in the city entropy, the central black characters are now fully just like away from the other characters living totally separate TV shows. So Lisa Todd Wexley and her family, they don't really interact with the rest of the woman anymore. It's kind of a weird. And then Seema as well is

this character they've brought in to introduce to sort of take the place of Samantha Jones. And originally she was sort of with the gals, but now as well, she's, for the last bit of this season, just drifted off into her own show. So we're back to the core white women sticking together.

And like, it's a challenge writing for a thousand characters that you've introduced on a TV show, but they've sort of drifted into bad, old, racist, secrecy. Yeah, they're like, Jesus, they end the show. We couldn't write a diverse show. our fucking lives depended on it.

And they tried. They really tried. Is there, is there room for a fan theory where the 9-11? Because they didn't, yeah, did they not, they didn't acknowledge 9-11? Okay, sorry, sorry, I'll let Jack finish. Did they acknowledge 9-11? I think there was like a subtle thematic tip

of the cap to 9-11, but I don't think 9-11 actually happened within the Sex and the City universe. Could this be an alternate timeline where 9-11 doesn't happen And so all, this is just like the, the Clinton world, you know, the Clinton version of America moving forward, just unencumbered. To tease this out, so there's no 9-11, there's no Iraq invasion, there's no rally around the flagpole effect, which I think means John Kerry, right? Maybe John Kerry. Yeah, he would have been running against Bush. although he might not have been running against Bush

because the reason they went with him was because he was like a wartime guy so would it I don't know it's hard to tease out how exactly but maybe that's instead of like thinking of plot continuity they were just trying to figure out the politics

it is tricky to reverse engineer how the political timeline would have worked of the most significant event of our lifetime. We got to get their red string out real quick. So producer Catherine says that they panned to the twin towers at the end of the season that was recorded prior to 9-11 as like the tip of the cap. Yeah.

So that could, but that just implies that they still exist because that aired after 9-11. So they were like, and we get it, guys. And just so you know, they never got knocked down. That's our way of dealing. I've never seen the TV show. I can't speak to that. I had to watch the TV show for a previous job, like all episodes. What did you think?

And what was the job that you had? As working at ABC News and Diane Sawyer was interviewing, I think, the cast around the final episode. Jack, I need you to watch every single episode of Sex in the City and get me prepped. I had to, like, log it and just go through and be like that this happens here, just like write a little episode summary of each one for some reason. Dude, I think those existed. Yeah, one of my other notes was 9-11, question mark? I was like, don't be a coward, Diane.

Fucking ask. Yeah. That is weird that they made me do that job. I could have just done that on like, maybe Wikipedia wasn't up and running back then. It was a long time ago. Yeah. Anyways, or maybe I just didn't know

how to use the internet. What did you think of that? Sex and City episodes happened. People loved that show. Yeah. It definitely had a charm to it. It was, like, fun. And, like, once you, like, are watching it, you get into the vibe of it.

But I, you know, wasn't necessarily my thing. But, like, the jokes were, like, the jokes seemed, like, intentionally, like, kind of campy rather than funny. You know what I mean? Right. Like, they were, like, kind of jokes about telling jokes a little bit. Yeah, I know what you mean. It's all very, like, quippy word play. Yeah, yeah.

Everything is being done with a wink. but when it you know when the show of the characters when the show came out I remember my mom got sent like VHS screeners of sex in the city and like this is you know this fucking my mom would bring these VHS tapes to Japan to show her friends they're like there's this new show sex in the city and I have so many memories of watching the first season with my mom and aunts on VHS in Japan in the hot summer and just being like all right so we're watching this together this is why it's interesting. this is why like the movies being as bad as they were and just like that being a hot mess is so interesting because the original show was genuinely like very culturally relevant and beloved. Yeah, my mom was bringing these. She was bringing these tapes around like it was like hip hop for the first

like y'all heard this shit and they were like, what the fuck? Mixed tapes. Yeah, for real. They're talking about blow jobs on the TV now. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's crazy. It was a moment. There's a moment.

New York City. All right. We have to move on to the rules. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back to talk about a very sex-in-the-city subject. A subject that Carrie Bradshaw could be writing about her very self. We'll be right back. Should I fuck a crypto kingpin?

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And there's a survey out that is, it's called from an outlet called date psychology. Very sound, scientifically sound. Yeah, I think it's affiliated with Stanford University. I actually don't know the origins of this survey. People who brought you the Stanford Prison Experiment comes date psychology.

Yeah. Equally scientifically founded. But I do think it raises, the numbers are fairly definitive. And so I wanted to just use this as an opportunity to talk about, you know, where people are at with regards to who is found attractive and not right now. It's going around, I don't know. First of all, the Daily Mail was, I think, the one, like, that really got to it first. And everyone was like, what? Huh?

So that's, I'm like, okay, what the, where the fuck are they going with this? Because the Daily Mail famously garbage website is the one being like, can we, like, like, this company asked, straight women, what they believe the most and least attractive hobbies a man can have. And I got to say, I contain multitudes, clearly, by looking at the most and least attractive things. This is me. I'm both. I got everything. I'm doing it all.

I'm doing the most attractive and least attractive things simultaneously. I don't know. I played Magic the Gathering. They got Magic the Gathering as an unattractive fucking hobby. Fuck that. Spoilerly. Yeah, sorry, sorry. But I don't know, for how specific the hobbies are, I'm a little bit, it's a little

interesting. It's a little interesting. I'm confused who exactly these people are. They're like, I like this, but I hate this, yeah. Guys, some context. I've tried to figure out, like, who's behind this. And there is that there's date psychology.com, which is who sort of released the survey. They do not have an up-to-date security certificate on the website.

Exactly. Chrome will be like, you're sure. Oh, you want to go here, dude? Because I don't think you do. I don't think you do. Yeah, it's like something about like their internal clock does not match, which indicates an expired certificate. And I'm like, what the fuck? Is this a, not a great sign?

And then one of the very few like bits of information is a link to a Twitter account, which is date psych. No, I'm not going to call it X. And that is a lockdown. The posts are protected. But it appears to be a guy who's got a master's in cognitive and behavioral neuroscience. So that's not nothing. That's not nothing. From date psychology university.com.

That's where is it? Okay. Yeah, that's right. That's right. With an out-of-date security certificate on it. So go to that website at your peril. Yeah. Knowing that, it does feel like a bit of a sciop boast in that sense of like saying like,

this is what women want, but this is what men are. Like, what's wrong? What's going on between these fucking two things? what's not a sire up at this point. Yeah. Well, let's go through it. I want to hear the results. Yeah, let's go through it.

The most attractive are things like reading, foreign languages, playing instrument. Damn, miles. Cooking. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Woodworking. These are like 98, 95, 95, 95, 95, 94% think would work. 94% of respondents were like, I love a carpenter-ass motherfucker.

Let me tell you. Painting, writing, gardening, swimming. Swimming. Swimming is hot. Swimming is hot. There's a lot of hot people who swim. Blacksmithing, traveling. Those are all over 87% in the hotness.

Don't gloss over blacksmithing. That is insane. They're at the top of the list. How many people are blacksmithing? Is this real? We're all blacksmithing. Yeah. archery. I mean, shit, I did archery as a teenager.

The rest of them, they make sense to me. I kind of get them. Reading being at the top of the list, fantastic. It makes me optimistic about humanity. Foreign language is great. No better way to understand that there are multiple perspectives in the world than learning a different language. Playing an instrument, awesome, very good. Woodworking, I get it. You're a Christian nation.

You're down with the carpentry. Blacksmithing is the most out-of-the-box top ten. I've seen on one of these lists ever, right? It does feel like they were just going through, like, the patches that you can earn to become an Eagle Scout. Yeah, true. It's just like a word working. Inwood derby is attractive?

What the fuck? Winter says knots. What the fuck? But that's our, like, okay, I'm a little dubious when I see 88% of respondents go, blacksmithing. I believe this because what it will be right let's try and think about

how they conducted this I reckon there's a whole bunch of stuff on a list so there's like 50 things and then they just have to order them right because it would be insane to think that over 88%

of respondents are coming up with blacksmithing without prompting Yeah name your top five attractive hobbies foreign languages archery swimming and blacksmithing

that's my dream person If I had to go off the top of my head, I go swimming, blacksmithing, and this is me and 86% of other women. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I just like a guy who's like been to summer camp, you know? Yeah. Blacksmithing is above travel. Definitely hotter than travel.

Having someone who's well traveled is like, that's pretty universal. Sword forging. Yeah, right. Metallurgy is hotter to me than a well-traveled man. Alchemy. Yeah. I like that gardening's high up there, too. That's like almost the top five.

Having a green thumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, fucking with plants, I think that's, that's attractive. Do you guys fuck with plants? I'll fuck with plants, baby. Yeah? Oh, yes. Yes, right now, well, we're trying to bring back a fiddly fig.

You know what I mean? Really trying to get, we got this terracotta. I'm not bullshit. If there's like this terracotta thing you can put in your plants that help it like slow drip water out and it keeps you from overwatering It's actually it's a

It kind of makes you look like You know what the fuck you're doing Yeah yeah yeah yeah Because they're like just a little bit porous right Yeah exactly It just lets it seep out a little bit I had a friend who tried to Sort of patent and create this

Slow Release plant watering thing And then he saw it that The terracotta thing Which I think it's existed probably for like 4,000 years. Yeah. Everybody solved this problem. Got it. Roger that. Imagine if you ate food with two sticks between your fingers rather than a fork.

What the point? They were able to sell a juice machine that just squeezed juice out of the bag. Yeah, that is true. So I feel like anybody can recreate anything if you put the right spin on it. It's true. All right, let's get down to the least attractive hobbies. Okay. And this is merely because this had a low share of people.

that responded saying it was attractive. So those top ones were between 98% and 87.9% traveling at the bottom, reading at the top, everything else that we've talked about so far in between. Least attractive, we're down in the 33% down to 3% at the bottom of the activity list. some of these are like old-fashioned shit that like a gym teacher would be like yeah well you want to go out and do that everyone's going to think you're a nerd and then some of them are like have a very decided political bent so all right at 33 percent comic books fucking comic books nerds cosplay up next debating which I take as general forensics is that we're talking about? Yeah, I take that as like Ben Shapiro

like debate me, you coward type shit. Right. It's surprisingly high then, considering. Yeah, yeah. Like it's at 30%. A third of respondents are like, I think debating is hot. Yeah.

Okay. That's one of it. How many of these were they able to pick because all of these percentages are so high? Check a box if it's like, if it makes you remind, remotely want to fuck someone.

Like, just even if there's a conceivable. The ones at the bottom are interestingly low. So they're good. Yeah. So just running through. Now we're down to 29%. Drinking.

Magic the Gathering, anime, makeup. Geez, guys. Crypto, cigars, clubbing, marijuana, Funko.

And then arguing online, In porn, gambling, and Manosphere. I'm sorry. Manosphere is at 3%. Manosphere is at 3%. And that's good. I say, congratulations respondents. I'm correctly identifying that one at the bottom.

But Funko pop toys? They got kind of specific with like the geek stuff, like geek culture stuff. They had like separate categories for Magic the Gathering, Funko, uh, cosplay. Like I feel like they didn't do that for i don't know where sports is on this but like if they were just going to do like a whole sports category you know i mean i think you're going to split that out sports doing and sports

watching because sports you got to know right right right right right right right right hobby it is those are two different things my my boyfriend's always arguing online about what the best weed-based funco pop toy is oh i can't stand it i'm also like if people who identifies as their is drinking and arguing on the village blacksmith weirdly so are you going to hate them or not hey you know it's a complicated guy I think makeup should be higher I'm disappointed makeup should be higher oh for sure I am a little disappointed by that too like if somebody's got great makeup sense yeah dudes dude's want to be criticized for their makeup guys want to be best yeah it's such a crime I don't

I mean, skin care, it's important. It's important. I would offer, if I could speak to some of these ladies, I would offer to debate them on the merits of their makeup pick, be happy any place, any time. You name the location. Oh, my God. People love to tell you that you can name the location.

Yeah. I don't know. My main things, me, my main things, probably, probably drinking porn. And manosphere. It's a heady combo. That's a great combo. Oh, shit.

I do think this is, I don't know, again, I don't know about the scientific veracity of this. I do think the general, general unpopularity of the manosphere. Like, I was thinking about this in terms of the last week's Sydney Sweeney thing, where just the idea that a celebrity is, a registered Republican, like, stopped Trump in his tracks, and, like, it was all he could talk about and all, like, Fox News wanted to cover for a whole day. I was thinking about it this morning. There was, like, a story from The Guardian about companies who are aiding Trump's immigration crackdown are seeing extraordinary revenues. Like, just this idea that everything in this American capitalistic system is pointing in this one direction. of like doing bad, like being horrible, uh, is like just there's nothing putting the brakes on that anymore other than I think generally, and I think this is why they keep hitting this over and over again, is generally it being like extraordinarily uncool and unattractive, like at a deeply human level, people are like, ugh, like fuck off. And they have a sense of that. And so they're,

they keep trying to push this idea that it's hot to be like they've been doing this from the start there's like all these like right wing dating sites the sydney swiney thing like blew up and was like all fox news could talk about forever there was like some videos over the weekend of like sororities doing like synchronized dances and they were like the left hates this and everyone's like yeah fucking the left hates this they're so mad they just want to like that that's the thing that is like stopping them a little bit is like, man, people find the right-wing manosphere, like, extremely horrifying at a deep human level that they, like, can't get around. And so that's, like, the last straw in the propaganda war that they're going to be fighting

as hard as they fucking possibly can, I think, going forward is just like, how do we make this cool? Because it's already cool with corporations. For a while, it was cool for corporations to be like Nike and be like, we actually think it's cool when people, you know, take a knee in the face of injustice. But now it's just like Palantir, Geo Group, Core Civic. These are like companies that are just like helping Trump cage people for speaking with an accent and having brown skin and or having brown skin. And they're just, there's no break, all gas, no breaks on that shit. And like the last, the last thing that I feel like, the last place they're seeing resistance is just like, interpersonally, people being like, oh, this is fucking gross. They're like, what do you mean? Dean Kane, the old Superman guy, joined ice.

Isn't that hot? They're like, no, dude. Isn't he Japanese? What the fuck is this? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That's, that's my loose theory is to, like, where.

all of this energy is coming from. And it's also why the Epstein thing is like kind of undermines what they're trying to do, where they're trying to be like, hey, we're just like red-blooded Americans who are all four. And then it's like, oh, our fucking godhead is a fucking pedophile who's like been involved. And that's cool. And that's cool. And I think that's neat.

Just like Drake, right? Allegedly a pedophile. I like, I like where you're coming from there, Jack. You sort of described it as there's this tension of fascism is trying to make itself fuckable and has gotten some way there. But then when the rubber meets the road, like when you get down to an individual level

of just normal people, non-politicians, non-arguing online manosphere, dickheads, there's just something viscerally kind of disgusting about the whole direction of it. Because the way you sort of described all of that,

it sounds to me like, I do kind of believe this. At some point, hopefully in the not too distant future, I think there's a possibility that, particularly the states, you guys just kind of like snap out of it a little bit? Because I don't think many people can sort of stomach what's going on at the moment. And obviously, there's a lot of resistance on the ground with, with protests and people taking the action that they can. But there's just like, there is an element of losing the guy who is the least political guy in the world, just being like, you guys

are just being fucking weird assholes like just stop and it feels like it's kind of getting to that point right where they're just going to lose everyone who has a shred of humanity who's not like terminally online because you see all like the buyer's remorse from the people that were

basically being propagandists for Trump's election who are like no it's not what I voted for I mean I had him on the podcast because like this guy was saying different shit than what was out dude I didn't know what to you can say Andrew's name he's not here Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no. I mean, like, watching the Flagrant podcast constantly flail is so hilarious. Or even like Tim Dillon was doing it too. And he's like, I had dinner with J.D. Vance. And you're like, you're a fucking loser. Screwball now. Well, you're fully compromised. You're just some fucking propagandist now. You're not even a comedian. You have just been used for your audience. And there was, did you see when, I think it was Ezra Klein who went on their show on Flagrant? And he was like, or no, no, no, it was, anyway, it doesn't matter. The, the point. The point.

way being like we even have like dr phil who was like doing ride-alongs with ice now being like you know i don't know if i'm actually uh cut out to be doing political commentary it's like you're now trying to distance yourself like what are you fucking talking about and i think because on some level at the time they're like oh yeah i think i'm riding this wave and like it's making me money and this could be a thing but then like to your point the rubber hits the road and you start having real people be like hey you're a piece of shit for backing what the fuck is wrong with you. They're like, oh, I mean, I'm sorry. People want shit to be normal again, I think.

There is like, there's just an underlying sense of human decency that people have, like, I really believe that. People don't want to fuck people over generally. The people who do a weird online people whose brains have rotted away and are totally incentivized to just create stuff that's going to outrage everyone and make everyone furious. But those, those are not like, it's like, point. 0.0.1% of humans. Real people are the people who you see walking around and they're pretty nice. They'll help you if you need a hand. And I think people are just getting like, or most of the time they're, to get into an untenable place. They're not so fuck. They're, they have the confidence to say wacky racist shit behind a screen and have the anonymity of like an online account or whatever. But acting out that way in physical, in the physical world leads to like these like wimpy little hunched over masked Nazis getting chased out of a new hand. Hampshire and they're like, well, what the fuck? We're married. I'm, I wanted to do the, of the physical, the IRL version of what I do online,

which is to be anonymous with my hate, like my hateful rhetoric. But, I mean, I think the same time, there is like this decency that still exists in people that you see, sadly, every time we have some kind of natural disaster where people are like inclined to actually just help each other around and be like, who'd you view a fucking Democrat? That's, again, and I think because we're so many people see the, the talk online, and think that's what's sort of happening everywhere. It sort of paints the world a much different in a different color than it is. Not to say that hate doesn't exist, but like when you go out in the streets,

there's still a version of what normal people interacting, you know? Yeah. For so many reasons we all need to get a lot more offline. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say I, the one thing staying in the way of this argument of like things changing and moving in a better direction is this was also my... argument in the last election of why people of why trouble was going to lose is like that the Republicans were losing in like local elections and it was like people's response and like

explanations for like why they weren't voting for Republicans is like they have become the party that is like weird and like just like kind of unnerving and it was the Tim Walt's line right right unfortunately that sort of put a muzzle on him but he actually got a lot of traction just going, these guys is just weird. And everyone's like, you know what? They are kind of fucking weird. Except for Liz Cheney. Except for Liz Cheney.

She's cool. She's cool. She's not a weird one. Yeah, I think the problem is that they're running against the Democrats. And like, so the thing when as people snap to, like, the thing that they have to go back to is this weird. Listen, man, we got to bring back optimism. I saw, um, did you guys see that clip, Seth MacFarlane talking about the modern state of

like Hollywood output that's been doing the rounds last day or so he's talking about the fact that Hollywood has been sort of asleep at the wheel in terms of creating stories and telling a possibility of a hopeful future for a long time now he sort of says

ever since the Sopranos came out everything has just been these pretty stories of anti-heroes and when he was a kid growing up you know there was a lot of television and film that were showing hopeful situations characters who were like really heroic

and people who you would want to be who you would want to aspire to be and now everyone's kind of been a villain on TV and in movies for so long that Hollywood has sort of been all of the actors and stuff have been grandstanding and doing these big speeches

and getting part of these political movements but what they are really is storytellers and the stories they've been telling are very pessimistic about the future and they kind of need to get and listen I'm not Seth MacFarlane's biggest fan in the world but I thought it was a really good point because like there is a real lack

of hopeful imagination at the moment and that is kind of how they'll get you if you don't have a positive vision of what the future can be that will you have nothing to fight for you up yeah so yeah I think there is an element of like

we got to kind of keep our chin up a little bit while we're fighting the good fight the quote he said it can't all just be here's what's going to happen if you fuck up which is kind of how a lot It's like, well, you know, our black mirrors, all so many shows like, oh, fuck y'all. Don't do this. And I know they're cool cautionary tales.

But half the time, I think that's why I also find myself like just wishing for more comedies because at least in those aspects, like, I have a positive experience rather than like, and there are great shows. I'm like, damn, that's fucking heady. Like, that's really interesting to consider. That's a really dark possibility. Wow, I never thought about that. But I also kind of need just like fun shit to laugh at.

to remind me of, like, you know, the fun that exists in just being... Ministry for the future, they need to make that into a TV series or a movie. That's... Oh, man. That book was good. Yeah. And, like, gives you... And I thought it's so realistic.

I was like, that probably... A realistic view of, like, what it could look like to actually address this shit. For those who haven't read it, they've got this, uh, there's all these kind of eco-terrorist groups that start weaponizing drugs. And listen, this is in the book. I'm not saying anyone should... do this. And nobody's saying.

This is in the book, but they start weaponizing drones because drones are obviously so cheap and ubiquitous now that they just start like fanging them into private jets that are being flown around by these CEOs that have been poisoning the earth for so long. And it's like, man, I could see that happening in about three or four years from now. Three or four minutes. Yeah. Yeah. But that is the sort of thing.

Like give us a realistic vision of like how this might change. What could happen? and, like, give people good ideas, you know? Like, there's nothing about that to root for, you know? I haven't seen a single goddamn hero and just like that. Just different shades of villains. Bring back Samantha Jones. That's right.

That's who we need. She needs to be the gab. Let her scat a little bit. She needs her Gandalf, her Gandalf moment in the last episode. She's like, I come to you now. You're like, yes, Samantha, please. Save us. I mean, that has to be the thing everybody's waiting for in the last episode

it was for Samantha to come back, right? I'm sure they've come out and said, like, she's not coming back. She's not, but I'm sure. Yeah, Cam Control's team have been pretty public about that. And we've been sort of lauding her on the show for making the correct decision with her career because she would have been offered outstanding amounts of money.

Like, it has been public that everyone wanted her to come and join this bit of the party. But her and Sarah Jessica Parker had a bit of a falling out years ago. And I respect her as an artist was saying, no, no. I'm going to keep scatting away over here by myself. Yeah, dude. The town never knew such a hullabaloo.

The he dogs, and she did all the she dogs. The town never knew such a hullabaloo. How do you know that by memory, Jack? We were obsessed with it, I think, in the early days of the show. And again, for people who don't know, this is like from, and I think it's like an ABC news thing where they just sit down. Kim Cottrell at home, her husband's playing upright base. and she's scatting.

I read poetry and sonnets, and he plays the upright bass. Yamakibyebo, sederé for keibo, wind dog Latin, he quotes. Ujie, savers array! Ooh!

Uh-huh. Come on now. Come on. Well, he bit all the he dogs and winked at all the she dogs. The town never knew such a hollabaloo as that little dog raised

till the end of that day. Oh, my God. Yep. Folkmaster flexing here now. A bit at the end of that clip that you just cut off, which we're using our theme song for a whole year on the podcast where we were watching and just like that. Got to continue.

Over here. We just have a good rhythm together, you know. He sort of feels me out. I feel him out. And we go for it. Oh, my gosh. Catherine's had a hell of a note here in the chat, producer Catherine. Do you want to read that out?

They were promoting their book, Satisfaction, the Art of the Female Orgasm. Yes. Play your upright base. My second king. Kim Contrault's husband is an upright bass jazz player. I mean, you need strong hands. You need a strong hand. Yeah.

And foreign language, because that was, whatever they were scatting was not English. They had their own foreign language together. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. The summer of 1993 was one of the best of my life. I'm journalist Jeff Perlman, and this is Rick Jervis. We were interns at the Nashville, Tennessee. But the most unforgettable part are roommate, Reggie Payne, from Oakland, sports editor and

aspiring rapper. And his state's name, sexy sweat. In 2020, I had a simple idea. Let's find Reggie. We searched everywhere, but Reggie was gone. In February 2020, Reggie was having a diabetic episode. His mom called 911. Police cuffed him face down.

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Animatic Universe and in this next episode event, just like that, you know, a lot of, a lot of storylines coming together in this last episode. Tim, I feel like you, you're more steeped in what's been going on lately than the rest of us. I'm curious to hear, like, what are you hoping happens here? My ultimate hope. I know that I've just been singing Kim Cottrell's praises for exiting the show, but I think it would be. So what we know is about to happen is there's going to be a Thanksgiving dinner. Brady has gotten a woman pregnant, who he barely knows and had essentially a one-night stand with. Miranda, Brady's mom, has invited Mia, who's pregnant to Thanksgiving. Brady's furious about this.

Charlotte is trying to figure out how to stay home from the Thanksgiving dinner. Miranda is hosting it, by the way. This is the first time she's ever hosted. Harry has just had surgery for his. his testicular cancer. I think was, yeah, testicular. And he just wants to, he desperately just wants to be at home for Thanksgiving. So Shal and Harry might be there.

I'm giving you guys the kind of cliff notes by memory of what's going on. Seema, who is essentially replacement Samantha, has hooked up with Carrie Bradshaw's Gardner called Adam. So they're sort of happily coupled off together. Okay. Miranda also has a girlfriend called Joy, who's now in the mix. and having to sort of deal with the Brady situation happening around her. Carrie Bradshaw has recently broken up with Aiden,

who she was trying to make it work with for quite a long time. They were in a long-distance situation. And then they broke up, and then Carrie hooked up with Duncan, who is the author that lived downstairs from her in her big house, but he has gone back to London. So I think he's out of the picture now. Now, this is about 5%.

what I've just described of all of the storylines that are currently unresolved. What I would like to see happen and what I think would be the neatest way to tie this all up is to have Samantha Jones wake up from the coma because they've fixed the gas leak in her apartment and the entire three seasons of and just like that

and every character and arc has been inside of her imagination. And I want to see her living a fantastic life. believe she is also in London, just heaven, Manhattan's with a hot 29-year-old dude somewhere in London, with the big Ben clanging away in the background. I love that for her. Is she canonically in a coma, or we have not?

It is to me. No, she's alive. Because I think they reference her sending flowers after Big died or something. That's right. And every now and then they'll put a text message from Samantha. on screen to carry, which I think is so rude that it should be contractually impossible

because Kim Cottrell is so tied to that character of Samantha Jones is like, if Kim has told you she doesn't want to be in the show, you can't do it with Catherine in with the notes again. Thank you so much. There was a phone call last season.

And it was between Carrie and Samantha. Okay. Yeah, yeah. All right. Samantha wakes up, I think, is a good place to start. we get through the Thanksgiving bullshit there's like stuff about like

the turkey being frozen people unhappy all the plot lines Samantha wakes up she is in a hospital she looks out the window and calls and everybody is on their way

to meet her at the hospital she looks out the window we pull back it's the top of the world trade center uh huh fucking hell she she opens the newspaper before we pull back in September 11th, 2001.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly how old. Remember me. Yeah. Robert Patton's there for some reason. Yep. He's just one window over. For some reason, they have a hospital in the World Trade Center. I, uh, make sense.

I imagine this is all happening in Carrie's mind moments. We find out this has all been flashing behind Carrie's eyes because she's actually been in prison and she's about to get stomped out in the yard. and this is just a quick flash just a really confused audience like wait what does she go to prison for just to kind of keep people guessing and I think that's the most I can hope for

along with the 9-11 thing but I think maybe her being incarcerated yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah something where a dove-tails which show came directly after if they can tie together whatever the show that came right after Sex and the City on HBO to maybe make it all part

of a shared universe I think that would be amazing it's Deadwood boot comes down blackout and then it's when you walk through the garden it's the wire bringing it back to the wire for some reason Tim it's been a pleasure having you learning what's going on in the sex in the city universe and learning what's going on in your universe there in the future in New Zealand the pleasure to be had thanks so much guys appreciate it where can people find you follow you all that good stuff

they can find me online Tim Bat, B-A-T, Instagram, I guess. I guess I have to get back on Instagram because I'm getting back into stand-up now. Oh, nice. So that's what I've got to do. I've been a little offline recently. Thankfully so.

But now I've got to get my ass back online to sell some tickets for shows coming up. That's not a very, it's not a great sales pitch for my account, does it? Hey, go follow me on Instagram and maybe I'll fucking drag my feet. To creating some content at some point. Unwanted promo.

And Tim, is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, I just came across. It's only just come out. David Byrne did a What's in My Bag at Amoeba Records. And I just think that is, it's National Record Day. So this all fits on theme. He's awesome. Talking heads is amazing.

David Byrne is probably the best live concert I've ever been to in my life a few years ago. And I just think a celebration of art, the world, you know? He's a great appreciator of African music, for example. That is what the world needs right now. Just like, get into some shit. Really appreciate some great music.

Get passionate about some stuff. Hell yeah. Miles, where can people find you as their work in media? You've been enjoying. Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. I'm talking 90-day fiancé on 4.20-day fiancé. Work of me, I haven't been on, I haven't really been online. That's not being honest.

So what did I, what have I done recently? Just go be whimsical, you know what I mean? Go eat an ice cream sandwich, please. Look happy, you know what I mean? Because they're trying to fucking take our happiness. And yeah, this is, there's like everything on my time, every time I go online, there's just so much fucking awful shit. Like, I can feast my eyes upon.

And I'm really trying to take stock of what that balance is, of what my inputs are. like in terms of like visual stimuli, whatever that is. And man, the fucking balance is so fucking to one side of just nonstop horse bullshit. I don't know, horse bullshit. I don't know what I'm trying to say. Horse bullshit. Horse bullshit. Yeah, it's a fucking mess.

It's a content mess. But I think in that sense, I'm just trying to be more mindful. So I just need a good, I just saw a new trailer for like a office spinoff that NBC is. doing called the paper. Yeah, with Dominole Gleason, and I was like, oh, all right. Yeah. Dominole Gleason. Why not?

Yeah. All right. Doing an American accent? Look, first, and don't get me started. They're taking our jobs, folks. They're taking our fucking jobs. They're taking our fucking jobs. But, hey, this looks all right.

Right? I'm not part of this part of the show. Politely standing aside. No, you're Kiwis. You're not taking too many of our jobs. It's the Aussies and the fucking English and the Irish. They're right. They're taking our fucking.

jobs, man, our acting jobs. All right. I've just been enjoying a bunch of onion headlines. There's one of those things where people are like, which onion headlines still occupies spacing your mind? And just I've gotten some good, broad smiles

from that going viral. Total dipshit fan. Fans think pop-up fly ball going to be home run. God answers prayers of paralyzed little boy. It's a picture of the boy in a wheelchair and that says, no, says God.

Shit. Just so much, so much good shit. Shout out. Dip shit fancing fly bugging. The amount of times in a baseball game, you get your ass out of the street. You go, whoa! I feel so humiliated.

Shallow fly to right. Oh, damn it. Infield pop-up. Box with cooking instructions immediately retrieved from trash with a picture of someone taking the craft mac and cheese box out of the trash which I've just done that

about a thousand times. Anyways, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien, Blue Sky at Jack O'Brien, the number one. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram, and

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keep my energetic balance. This isn't like a, sometimes I'll go on some like darker, kind of grimyer sounding tracks. This one feels a little more loose. This one feels nice. Okay, so this is Plain Sailing, S-A-I-L-I-N-G by Gold Panda. And we will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zykeyes is production by I-HartRadio for more podcasts from My Heart Radio. Visit the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. Back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye. The Daily Zykeyes is executive produced by Catherine Long.

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