The Daily Zeitgeist - Semi-Geist Kind Of Zeit 6/4: WaPo AI, Nazi Arrest, Doritos, Mountain Dew, Democrats/Young Men, Palantir

Episode Date: June 4, 2025

In this edition of Semi-Geist Kind Of Zeit, Jack and Miles discuss the Washington Post using AI to punch up articles written by crappy writers, Nazis getting arrested… in the US?!, Mountain Dew and Doritos possibly getting a warning label, Dems studying young men so they can lie to them better, Palantir compiling data on Americans and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How are you doing, Miles? Oh, what's it trending? So much, so much. What's trending? Let's see. The Washington Post has an exciting development for people who like journalism. Yep. Who like op-eds from people who shouldn't be writing fucking op-eds

because they don't know how to write or formulate ideas with the written word. But that doesn't matter, says Jeff Bezos, their overlord, because their whole thing is like, we're trying to get a more diverse amount of contributors read, probably like illiterate racist bastards to put things in to normalize their takes. But Jeff Bezos has said they're going to use AI to fucking help

these non writer ass opinion writers. Wow. Professional writing. This is the new program Ember. Yeah, this has been the dream of capitalists since I was working as an editor. They're just like, all right, so you guys have been like making these articles that are like doing really well and like have a lot of thought put into them. How do we 10 X that? How do we make it so that instead of four articles, you're making 40 a day?

Well, then we'd probably need 10 more writers of this caliber. So how do we do that with the same number of resources? That's the that's the puzzle that I want you to solve. And they finally done it. What about glasses over there? Can you do like 10 more articles? His name's Daniel. What about you numbers? My name's Sorin. Um, so anyway, this is this thing, this program,

Ember quote could automate several functions normally provided by human editors, including offering a quote, story strength tracker that indicates how a piece is progressing. The tool also reportedly has a sidebar showing the fundamental parts of a story, such as an early thesis, supporting points and a memorable ending. Am I in fucking eighth grade again? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Three, three paragraphs of supporting the. Yeah, it's this is fucking absurd.

Like, what are they talking about over there? They couldn't find enough people with the opinions that both have the opinions that they want supported and also know how to write professionally. So yeah, yeah. Like they ran out of all of the national review, like editors and former editors that are like, we need more because this is coming after

they talked about changing their op-ed mix so that it also, it includes more people who are just like pro market. Yeah. And I'm sorry, if a person doesn't know how to write, how will they know if an AI is like editing suggestions isn't completely changing Like the connotation of something they're trying to say, you know what I mean? Like that they're already they're like, I don't know Yeah, maybe that is a better. Yeah, I said to say this. Yeah different point

Imperialism can be okay as long as it's wrapped in red white and blue I can't wait to see like the I'm sure a lot of people are gonna be fucking with this and I'm looking forward to seeing Like what they come away with Like is it proprietary? Like is it a thing where like anybody can just like go and try to write a Washington Post op-ed? No, I think they're like there there's a people that the Washington Post are like I think on reaching out to being like hey Hey, you're illiterate and also seem like you have an idea that we want shared with the world your 4chan posts are fucking fire my dude. Would you like to write an op-ed in the Washington Post? They are however mostly incomprehensible

Mostly images. They're mostly soyjack images Yeah, so that is where things are headed. That's how the Washington Post is doing. Yep. Not good. I saw WAPO AI and I thought it said weird Al. That's how much weird Al is. AI does look like Al.

Yeah, it does. Hey, it also looks like A1. Also looks like A1 too. That's true. I'm not going to throw Linda McMahon under the bus for not knowing fucking anything. Also she also doesn't know what the Tulsa race massacre was. No. She was in a hearing and they're like, oh, do you think like she was saying things would be illegal DEI, like certain curriculum. And she was being asked like, oh, what about the Tulsa race massacre? She's like, I'm, I'll have to look into that more to know what that is. Yeah. Of course.

I mean, these people- History has a DEI bent and we can't allow it. Yep. Did that even happen? That's why I, it is like, I know that she is bad, but heading up the education of this country. But like just Linda, as you mentioned it, my brain is still like, why are we talking about a wrestling person? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, well, for old time's sake, America just arrested some Nazis. How? I'm like still, I don't know why I'm so baffled

by the idea that law enforcement arrests Nazis, but this is from a raid in Thurston County, Washington. Law enforcement discovered a cache of weaponry and armor, including a machine gun and grenade launchers, along with Nazi paraphernalia during a raid of a home in Thurston County. They said there was something about there's an FBI special weapons and tactics investigation and a US Army criminal investigation because they thought that there's potentially like an attack

that was gonna happen. Maybe that's what it's like, boys, boys, boys, we're on the same team here. You go around trying to shoot at us, we're gonna have to fuck you up, man. Oh yeah, it's definitely just the weapons is the problem. It's not the giant Nazi flags that are on the wall inside this closet full of.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's weird. Oh, they also have like ice uniforms in there it looks like. full of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's weird. Oh, they also have like ice uniforms in there, it looks like. Or maybe not. I don't know. Oh my God, twins. Who knows, who knows?

But that is just so, I don't know why this story just really was jarring to be like, wait, Nazi bat? Oh, like gun bat, illegal guns bat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Illegal cache of weapons bat. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a it's interesting. It's interesting when this stands out because I mean, we talked about

for since the beginning of this podcast, like the double standard, when it comes to right wing terrorism and like homegrown terrorism versus every other kind of terrorism. Yeah. They there is some wild shit that people are getting away with in the, in the name of white supremacy. Are these like new Nazis? Cause like their little like storage closet, the, there are Nazi and their swastika flag

and SS flag have all the creases in it. Like, yeah, the creases just went up. So brand new. No, that's an op. There aren't real Nazis. They, they, it's an op. Oh, you know, that's an op there aren't real nazis there they it's an op oh you know that's an alex jones shit why is it why the crease increases in the dang poster real nazis we respect i mean real nazis respect their flag that's right all right here's here's a bit of a good news for those of us who like Doritos and Mountain Dew, they might be getting a warning label

in California or Texas. Texas. In Texas. Of all places. So Doritos and Mountain Dew might be getting a warning label in Texas that contains some information that I think is immaterial, but people seem to think is relevant. Okay. What is the information that will be labeled on our beloved Mountain Dew and Doritos? immaterial, but people seem to think is relevant. OK, what is the information that will be labeled on our beloved? So it says it's going to contain warnings about ingredients,

quote, not recommended for human consumption. OK, fucking whatever. Whatever tastes good. Yeah, I recommend it. My taste buds recommend it for human consumption, Doug. That's also man. I don't. That's such a it for human consumption, Doug. That's also man. I don't. That's such a bummer, though, to like just the idea when it's on the thing you're about to is like, man, there's shit in here.

We do not recommend it. Yeah. Like, really? What about for animals? Not even animals, man. Not even that you could degrease an engine. Maybe that's about it. Yeah. I mean, it is revelatory in a way that's not fun to look at which of my favorite snack foods

are illegal in other countries. This feels like a little too anti-corporation by telling the consumer, it's like, they're feeding you crap. Which that's why I'm surprised. Wow, I did not know what the, who was behind this bill in the Texas Senate for this one. But hey.

Wow, this list is so long of shit I've never seen. Morpholine, the fuck is that? Dioxide? It turns you, it allows you to morph like the beginning of that Michael Jackson black and white video. No, you morph into a trampoline. Oh, or Valvoline. I don't know. Whatever you want.

I do like that they've, uh, I'm, I'm sure lobbyists had something to do with this, that it's, it's not strongly worded. They're just like, based on, we wouldn't recommend it for human consumption. It's not based on our recommendation. Maybe not. I guess. Yeah. It's like the cigarette thing. It's like, yeah, sure. So look, I need my nicotine. I know it says you better fucking kill me. I know, but I think most people probably don't know that a steady diet of Doritos isn't good either. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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Uh-huh. They're just like, I don't know. They think that we're inauthentic and don't care about them. Right. Based on the fact that the young men actually seem to believe that neither party has our back. Yep. Yep. Yep.

party has our back. Yep. Yep. Yep. This is a, the, the, the fucking this democratic group, two year, $20 million project to study young men and how Democrats can reach them. The, the way that this like is being, the information is being greeted by the democratic party, because like, of course there's nothing wrong with the values of the party or what they actually

do as leaders. It has to be a matter of messaging. That's the only way they're able to conceive of any problem is like, well, we're just not messaging it, right? Democrats are seen as weak, whereas Republicans are seen as strong. Young men also spoke of being invisible to the Democratic coalition. And so you've got this weak problem and then you've got this, I don't think they care about me problem.

And I think the combination is kind of a killer because what are we going to offer to like give them hugs, but then they're going to be like, that's not strong. Um, and it's just like, no, I think what they mean is that you guys don't do things for constituents. You don't do things on behalf of the people. You just back down the second there's any pushback from corporations and the forces that actually run the country.

So that's the weakness. And the don't care about us is when you also don't do things for us and instead govern, you like lie and say you're gonna govern for us and then you actually do stuff for the corporation. Sure, sure. So yeah, what I'm hearing here is that we should have Chuck Schumer go live on TikTok

and do a bunch of bench presses. That's right. Thank you. Perfect. You nailed it. Cause I don't know the other stuff, it just sounded like you were attacking me and I didn't want to hear that as a democratic leader. I don't want to hear about how I'm offering people

nothing all the time and just empty words. Yeah, it's like the first one is very telling where they're like, it feels like neither party has our black, said a young black man. And it's like, that's pretty layer two Democrats. This isn't just like a, we need a Joe Rogan thing. It's like you are failing so many demographics of people.

It's just like, again, let's piss away 20 million dollars to arrive at a thing that just for them to not have to believe it's like has to do with their terrible policy decision to say. Yeah, 20 million dollars to psycho with their terrible policy decision to say yeah 20 million dollars to psychoanalyze some questions to a poll that just has a very simple answer that we just don't want to hear so we're gonna find treat it that they're like dude they need fucking more tough guys some badass bastards in the democratic party y'all are talking about fucking branding right now. Yes. Oh, you're a political party. You need to talk about fucking policy.

I know. Yeah. Okay, well, let me get the fuck out of the way for people who want to do policy because that's what they're like, oh, they don't know what they're going to do. If this is their problem. Yeah, what they're going to do is they actually need

to offer policies where it's not about, because a lot of things they're talking about is like people aren't hitting milestones, like being able to buy a house or save money for college. That's, we're talking about inequality here. So what you're saying to me, that sounds weak, bro. Dude, you know a word doesn't show up once in this fucking article is inequality. Nah. That's why Politico is also fucking just absolutely done too.

It's like every now and then they have good reporting and then like there's this stuff, like their analysis of this is so just in line with what the DNC just like to be like, yeah, I'm like, this, this looks like, this looks like a hard, a hard place for the Democrats to be in and not getting to what is actually happening, um, to people in this country, but sure. Well, speaking of what is actually happening to the people in this country, the government is getting to what is actually happening to people in this country. But sure. Well, speaking of what is actually happening to the people in this country, the government is getting to know us. Let's put it that way. Our brand, our $20 million branding solution has told us to describe this as getting to know all about you. And we mean all.

But what do you mean? Don't hold back. Just like what my favorite team is or something. So you might have seen the company Palantir, Palantir trending lately. This is the Peter Thiel founded company that uses AI to dig through massive troves of data to find significant patterns and information. And they are just getting hired. Trump is just putting them on everything, like tax records, medical records,

everything an authoritarian government could possibly want to compile on their population, they are just pulling it all in, getting it so everything is linked up. And basically the, like marketing companies want to like have really great profiles. They wanna like connect your, you know, online browsing with your like where you're driving information. So you have like one-to-one, like a model of a person that corresponds to an actual person who's out there.

And that appears to be like what the government is also doing. Yep. This is a quote from a New York Times article. Creating detailed portraits of Americans based on government data is not just a pipe dream. The Trump administration has already sought access to hundreds of data points on citizens and others through government databases, including their bank account numbers, the amount of their student debt, their medical claims, and any disability status. Mr. Trump could potentially use such information to advance his political agenda by policing immigrants and punishing critics. Democratic lawmakers and critics have said privacy advocates, student unions, and labor rights organizations have filed lawsuits to block data access, questioning whether the government could weaponize people's personal information.

Yeah, Palantir is all over all kinds of like carceral shit too and also Margie Taylor Green just bought a lot of Palantir stock according to our latest financial disclosure. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think things are moving in this direction. Continue to. Palantir also recently began helping immigration and customs enforcement and removal operations teams,

according to two Palantir employees and two current and former DHS officials. The work is part of a $30 million contract that ICE signed with Palantir in April to build a platform to track migrant movements in real time. Wow. This was like a very simple way of putting it because like the response, sorry, there's a plane going overhead because I think they heard me criticize the Trump administration.

Oh, Ted, right for us. So the response or the defense of this has been like, this information is out there. We're just like working smarter by like collecting information and organizing it together. So it's not like this disparate thing of like files, you know, paper files we're actually creating. And a person who worked for Palantir for years and just quit was like,

data that is collected for one reason should not be repurposed for other uses. Combining all that data, even with the noblest of intentions, significantly increases the risk of misuse. Oh, great. Yeah, so you may notice that this sort of thing that like conservative values are supposed to stand against

coming up more and more. Like the first thing that I ever knew, and like the most consistent thing I've known about conservatives, because they'll change their mind about fucking everything. But the one thing that I do know is that they love guns because they don't trust the government. You know, they're like, I need my gun because the government can come for me. Now it's just like brown and poor people. Yeah, yeah.

You know, because now the government is in their image. Right. But like they're supposed to be like and have been small government. Hands off. I need privacy. You don't need this information. Fuck you. Yeah. Like this is a direct attack on the shit that like Peter Teal supposed to be a libertarian and he's helping the government compile Massive databases that will help them punish their critics. Yeah, I mean that's the thing I'm just not gonna be on the receiving end of that. So that's fine. Right exactly. That's fine for Peter Thiel

Ordinary run-of-the-mill racists who voted for Trump seem a little less certain that this is a good idea Right. This is from a Newsweek article, just about like how this is somewhat unpopular. They said, numerous pro-Trump voices express dismay and feelings of betrayal across social media platforms. People are so quick to suggest that I flipped on Trump. No, no, no, I didn't flip on Trump. Trump flipped on us. Oh hell, okay, Malcolm X.

I'm not willing to continue living in a lie. Living in a lie. And I will tell you the unfortunate truth. That's from The Patriot Voice, who has 158,000 followers on X. Damn, the Hodge twins even? The Hodge twins even. No!

They have more than 3.3 million followers on X. And in response to the New York Times report, they wrote, hope this ain't true, y'all. And then a later post that day, don't know if this is true, but I did not vote for this. Oh, wow. Yeah. Get it tatted, everyone.

Even Nick Fuentes, you know, Nazi, Nick, when Nazi. Well, he, I mean, he definitely runs a foul. Like he definitely disagrees with Trump a lot. What's he doing? What's he do you say? Oh, this the ultimate betrayal of his own people. Yeah This is feeding every this is a quote quote feeding every MAGA extremist into an AI database controlled by a CIA Mossad cutout. Yeah, seriously if Palantir is in the deep state, then what is yeah. Yeah, okay Seriously, if Palantir is in the deep state, then what is? Yeah. Yeah. OK. I'm beginning to think it started when DJ T walked down that escalator before 2016

wrote Redneck Common Sense. So, yeah, I don't know, assuming they'll be called Panikins by Jack Poseibyak, the terrible word that they came up with for panicking Americans. For people who are observing the events unfolding around them. Yes. But just their whole main value is like panicking. They're like that. That's the thing that conservatives seem to always have is like panicking about people who are different than them, panicking about getting rights.

Yeah. People's rights, people who don't like the people that they like. People who are Nike. Yeah, it's all it's it is funny that like their whole motivate their biggest motivating tool they use for their base is to panic them. And then they're like, rightfully like, you know, what the fuck is like now? OK, Panicin. OK. OK, Panicin Skywalker.

You think how many? What's the overlap? Sucks so bad. Anakin. Panic and Skywalker. You think how many that overlap sucks so bad. Anakin Panic and oh. I'm still thinking Star Wars. I'm like, yeah, it's pretty mid for Star Wars. No, I like Luthen. That's a good name. That's an Andor. This motherfucker.

This was Stella Skarsgård called Luthen. I was like, that's see, that's a Star Wars. That's any Skywalker. Yeah. And I mean, the sky was just straight up, hey, this is my boy. Skywalker is one of the dopest names. Like they really like an eight on that one. Yeah. Oh man.

Back to simpler times. Back to simpler times. 1977. All right, what else we got? Got seven new chips coming to shelves this summer. But some of them may be edible. There is an UTS lemonade flavor, which I can't conceive of liking. A potato lemon flavor, a potato lemonade flavor. They got Doritos twisted queso twisted queso and then UTS lemonade potato chips.

Okay. Lay Southern biscuits and gravy. I'm going to try that. Oh yeah. There's good stuff in here, but lemonade flavored potato chips. I'm trying to, I see. I'm trying to find, I'm seeking joy right now in this list. Yeah. I'm going over the ones that upset me. I chose darkness. Which one do you like the best tie? Sweet tie style red curry. I feel like they already have that in the abroad.

Yeah, yeah. Like walkers, creasps. They should just be bringing shit from abroad. That is like already a hit and be like, I don't know. Maybe the sweet chili one is good. Also, like the free to twists. No, no, I'm not. Why would like why fuck with the original like little scoopers?

It's kids. They're trying to recapture a new generation. It is giving corn nuts to me It's like so dense, you know, you're not. Yes, this thing's like my teeth on them Yeah, they're like the grape nuts of like salty snack food I would be so excited open a bag of fucking corn nuts and then they break my I don't know every time like fuck These are so hard. I thought it was like a little chippy nuts or nah those things suck they still sell those they've got to right that's I think yeah we have so much fucking corn lying around in this country oh yeah my kids

eat a snack called like love corn that's like, you know, been like goop washed. It's like we're, it's like a corn based snack, but it's just like crispy. Oh yeah. Crunchy corn. Yeah. They're just trying to get rid of the corn. I know. Like what is it? Corn stockpile.

We got a bunch of corn kernels. We got to do something with men scoop them up. What do we feed people in movies about pop corn? I don't know. Will that do something? Can we make a car out of corn? Like a whole car? That would help.

I mean, we fuel our cars with corn. Twisted queso is probably the one. A Doritos twisted queso. I like queso and might as well, you know? It's nacho cheese's, nacho cheeseario is one of the all time great snack foods. I'm saying biscuits and gravy gets my attention. That's the way I go. Biscuits and gravy gets my attention.

And then I look at the picture on the thing. Don't worry, but they never look good. No, it doesn't. You're just eating congealed white fat with sausage. Just like you can make it look good in the picture. I don't care, bro. I just need to hear the words, it's not a sausage gravy. What are we talking about here? They're probably not gonna fucking Yeah, yeah, it looks like sausage gravy is this place chunk country's chicken shit, man Country don't believe in nothing anymore

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