The Daily Zeitgeist - Sesame Street Union Busting? The Elon Comedown 03.06.25

Episode Date: March 7, 2025

In episode 1825, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, Pallavi Gunalan, to discuss… MAGA Goes All In On Denying Responsibility For…Like Everything, Speaking Of Which... Elon Told Republicans To Stop Saying HE’S THE ONE DOING CUTS, Latest Legal Trend Is Lawyers Citing Fake Cases That Were Hallucinated By AI, Sesame Street Is Union Busting Now? And more! MAGA Goes All In On Denying Responsibility For…Like Everything Speaking Of Which... Elon Told Republicans To Stop Saying HE’S THE ONE DOING CUTS Latest Legal Trend Is Lawyers Citing Fake Cases That Were Hallucinated By AI Sesame Street non-profit to be hit with layoffs after staff announce union Employees at the nonprofit behind Sesame Street announce unionizing with OPEIU Local 153 Sesame Workshop Files Lawsuit to Keep Amazon, Walmart, eBay From Selling Allegedly Counterfeit Toys Olympic breakdancer Raygun’s brother Brendan Gunn charged in $100K crypto fraud Alaskan bear corrects a fallen roadside cone LISTEN: Everybody Loves The Sunshine by Seu Jorge and Almaz WATCH: The Daily Zeitgeist on Youtube! L.A. Wildfire Relief: Displaced Black Families GoFund Me Directory See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Come join us and listen to She Pivots on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello the internet and welcome to season 378, episode five of Dirt Island. I guess a production of I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. It is, of course, Friday, March 7th, 2025, three, seven to five, nine. Guess what, Jack?

It's national flapjack day all right Jack I remember I called that I called a teacher flapjack in high school and I got in trouble oh they're like hey you got to get your knees out of like on the bus try to go all right flapjack and they're like okay you got detention and I'm like the teacher name no I grew up in High School Musical? I don't know. I just thought that was a funny name to be disrespectful. I mean, they knew I was trying to disrespect. That's probably what they got onto.

Did they have like a flat Stanley style build? No, there's nothing to do with that. Nothing about them. Anyway, also National Hospital. That shit totally sounds like something that you swore at them and then a TNT sensor came in and changed it to flap the heck Yeah, it sounds like that's like what Bruce Willis calls Hans Gruber in the TBS cut of die right? Yeah Hey, yippee-ki-yay flapjack. Yeah. Yeah, I Don't remember asking you a flapjack thing

Anyway, yes also National Hospitalist Day what is a hospitalist that sounds British they manage patient care throughout their inpatients day and okay you help you helping people out and also national dressing blue day national speech and debate education day national tartar sauce day national employee appreciation day national crown roast of pork day national cereal day national be heard day and the anniversary of my dad leaving my mom in 2002. Hey! Part 7! We here, we here.

Yeah. No call to your dad like we did season two. Nah, man. Go back to that episode. That's like- That's a classic. Wait, what happened? You called his dad? You called his dad on the show. I think it was... Did you talk to... Are you in touch with your dad?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. I called him. And because I think someone was like, wow, you really... It wasn't like some Howie Mandel shit. No, no. Like, you really remember that day. I'm like, yeah, but kind of fucked me up.

I remember it very vividly. And then I called my dad on the show and I was like, hey, you know what today is? And he's like, what, what, no? And I was like, it's like the anniversary of like, you know, you mom, you split up with mom. And he's like, oh, you still thinking about that? He's like, you doing okay?

And then he got very sincere. He was so good about it. He was so good and sincere. It's like, damn. Did he know he was on the show? No. No. Oh my God.

But then he did later and he was like, are you okay? Then he was like, are you okay? Oh, then he's like, you're not okay. I really fucked this up. Yeah, no, you're not. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I'm okay.

I'm fine, I'm fine. You're fine. You're doing great. He's sobbing, you can't see it, but he's like, quiet crying. No, it's because I need a bunch of cocaine. That's why I'm shivering. You heard of quiet quitting, right? Welcome to quiet crying. Damn, he is biting those knuckles real hard. of cocaine. Quitting right.

Damn. He is biting those knuckles real hard. Single tear rolling down frozen face. It's the only way I cry like a man. Like Kyrie at the free throw line. That's how you cry. Damn. Yeah. All right.

My name is Jack O'Brien, AKA cyber truck. They in it gross. Watch me make them feel like ho O'Brien, AKA Cybertruck. They in it. Gross. Watch me make them feel like hoes. Watch me with my thumb deployed. I'll stupefy tech bros when I say boo as courtesy of Halcyon salad on the discord. That was sick, but did you call me a hoe? Oh yeah.

You do drive a cyber truck. I forgot about that, probably. Oh, you're calling it cyber truck? People who drive cyber trucks help. Oh, okay, so. Has anybody made a, I've seen cyber trucks with like ads on the side, but I'm wondering if anyone's like sleeping

in their cyber truck. That would be like insane, you know? Cyber truck slash bed and breakfast. Yeah, they just roll out the back ramp. Yeah. There are, people do seem willing to just like draw on those shits. Like I've seen, there's one in my neighborhood that is like, has like some sort of like Sonic three, like shadow reference, like written on,

like decaled onto it. It's a, it's like, has like a rap on the car. Yeah, it has a rap. Like so many wraps on these cars. A lot of them are like advertising. I'm like to pay for the car. They got you got 100%. Yeah, it's so you're basically making money on the cyberstruck

or cyberstuck subreddit. It's like for all the cyber truck haters is one person post like guys, I made a terrible mistake. I put an eggshell sticker on my untreated stainless steel plate I had, and it's very difficult to get off and I'm just saying, do not do that if you have stainless steel plates, it is very hard to get off. Do not make people just do this shit all the time. Just posting these very Do they do?

Cybertrucks have like cameras on the on the oh yeah of cameras Then like how are people how do they how do they do it? I feel like it's got to probably be like oceans 11 like you probably need somebody to like use like some kind of Laser or infrared shit to like nullify the camera and then you could pull up and then oh, yeah Or you just have like a horde of people come up and then circle around it and then disperse, you know? So nobody knows. Everyone pulls up in guy fox masks.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. British Don Cheadle comes up and knocks out the power to the entire block. Just to draw a dick on your cyber truck. Just to draw a dick. I mean, the ones I've seen, people just come up with a mask on and that's easy enough. And then after that, they're like,

oh, they went out of frame. Where'd they go? Is the cheese part of it? Like we were talking about how people like to throw cheese at Cybertrux. Is that just because people who do that, who drive Cybertrux are cheesy? Victor, did you say? Is that discolor? Like, do we think that there's a discolor race aspect to it?

No way to know until Victor comes through with it. Victor, tell us. Just get stuck. I think people did this to their babies on TikTok, remember? Yeah, to make them stop crying. People threw, I mean, sure, but also I think they were just throwing cheese at their babies because it made a fun sound. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was funny because everyone, but it is funny how that was treated. It's like, I don't know why, but when you throw a slice of American cheese on a baby's bald head while they're crying, it like disrupts the pack. The way they thought it had something to do with the cheese, they're like, no, you put a weird cold sheet on their head suddenly,

and they're like, what the fuck is this? Also, like, did you see the tape thing where people will undo like a packing tape and it makes a sound, and then the baby starts laughing? It's like a big baby joke. Yeah, I tried a lot of those Hendrick Lamar babies. Love it. Yeah Big baby joke to you. Yeah, what is this one big baby joke? We're having trouble in my house My baby's all team Drake right now Yeah, yeah, your dad like a He's like, I raised you wrong.

I'm so sorry. He's just, something's going on. I don't know if he's overhearing the TikToks I look at, but he's just, he's calling me a Gerbert, like a Toronto road man fam. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host. Number one Gerbert, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, he's a Gerbert fam straight from Brampton, AKA, you can call me Gary

slime. Anytime you might wake up screaming out for me, you can call me Gary slime. Anytime I miss you. Shout out to Snarfila for that. Look, I should anytime Brian McKnight, AKA as you came through, also Geraldine, I also saw you come through with that AKA, I sees ya.

Thank you for that. Thank you. Yeah. I like that we're doing Brian McKnight in line with dads that leave their families. You know what I mean? Yeah, oh, did he leave a family too? Oh my God, Brian McKnight is a horrible father. He like left his first family.

Now he's in an interracial relationship with someone who's like lighter skin. It's like colorism. He renamed a child he had in his new family, Brian McKnight Jr., even though he already has one. He's fully left. I thought he had a daughter like Brianna or something too. He's like some george for me so egotistical and so mean to his first family. He's like first he's like disowned them for like it's crazy. So he had one family and then he started back at one with another family. Oh my god. Is that what I'm hearing? Yes he did.

Yes, he did. I always tell my daughter, you can't call me anytime. You cannot. You cannot. Beautifully done, everybody involved, and especially the person from the Discord who came up with Gary Slime. Still one of my favorites of all time. Anagrams, they're out here.

Miles is thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious stand-up comedian, writer, actor, wannabe British gangster, improviser. You can catch her on stand-up stages everywhere. Just go check her website. At the monthly facial recognition comedy show, which she also produces, it's Pallavi Gunali.

Pallavi. Hi, guys. Hi. Hi. Switch it up. Which she also produces it's probably good Does Mickey still make for two kids like are they familiar with Mickey you don't know the Mickey clubhouse Mickey Mouse Clubhouse Oh, is that a show? Yeah, and then Absolutely nailed Mickey's energy. He's always Affable and dumb Oh my god, Jack's coming for Mickey. I'm just like this character. This dumb ass piece of shit. Fucking vermin. Get a job, Mickey.

He's just like this weird, inoffensive, uncle type person who's just like, ha ha, I don't know. There's not a lot there. I want more from you, Mickey. Yeah, some eggs. I think you want Bugs Bunny. I think you're looking for Bugs Bunny,

mischievous energy. Yeah. I think you're looking for Bugs Bunny. Why don't you get the fag outta here, okay? That's what they say to me at Disney when I show up. When you show up. Dressed as Elmer Fudd. When you show up.

Yeah, I got Elmer Fudd in one of those rifles with the big blammer at the end of it. Just a double butt of impossiblyared out, double barrel shotgun. Flared shotgun for dump season. PalaV, it's wonderful to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We are going to talk about the continuing attempt to dodge any sort of

accountability on the right for. We are in the, it ain't my fault era. The second administration. Uh, and the Elon, Elon's also like, uh, could you like stop saying like, he's saying, uh, it ain't my fault. Yeah. He's a big fan of that song. He loves silver Shaka.

Uh, we'll talk about the latest, uh, legal trend, which is lawyers citing cases that were hallucinated by AI. Oh, wait, this is people. Sorry. I didn't know I couldn't do that. Are, are these people that are like lawyers are using AI and it's giving them fake ass cases that then they go into IRL court room? Present to the judge. And the judge is like, these are not cases.

And lawyers have some really good explanations that I can't wait to see. First of all, there's no such team as the Spongos. Spongos. Spongos. It's like a meme that's like, chat GPT is my lawyer, I'm fucked. Right. We'll talk about Sesame Street union busting now. No.

We're at the point in late capitalism where Sesame Street is union busting. Turn to Wall Street. Okay. That's right. All of that, plenty more. But first, Paula V. Gannallin, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

Okay, so not to be like all about me, but it is my birthday week. Whoa! With Happy Birthday. March 4th. Oh, shit! March the 4th be with you. We're in the middle of it!

Paula V. Ganaan's birthday week! And I'm hella busy and an adult, so I can't celebrate this week. But I'm really excited. Jackie's and I are going to go in the future at some point that I won't tell everyone to the Gentle Barn. Have you guys seen, have you heard about the gentle barn? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that like up in Santa Clarita area?

Yeah, it's like a farm sanctuary. I follow all these rescue farms and they're so sweet and they cuddle cows and they like, I feel like every animal is just like some version of a puppy, like cows are just like milk puppies, you know, turkeys are Thanksgiving puppies, you know. Oh, you're still thinking how you consume them? No, I'm not even, I don't consume, I'm vegan, okay?

It's how you consume them. Thanksgiving puppy. Thanksgiving puppy. But it's just like puppies that we haven't like played with yet, you know what I mean? Like they all have personalities, they all have individual, you know, like individual like emotions and things, you know? They're just like, they all got individual, you know, like, individual, like, emotions and things, you know? They're just like, they all got little things.

And so I really love, like, rescue farms because it's just, like, kind of the misfit toys of animals that get to all just, like, live and thrive. And so I'm really excited to go. I'm going to go to the gentle barn. The Geist child loves animals and, like, horses and donkeys and shit like that. And everyone's like, you've got to take them. You've got to take them to the gentle barn. The Geist child loves animals and like horses and donkeys and shit like that.

And everyone's like, you gotta take them. You gotta take them to the gentle farm. And I'm like, yeah, let me know how it goes. Let me know how it goes. Yeah, you can do like, you can cuddle cows. And there was this like viral video that went around a while ago of this woman being like, what is it?

It's like, when you get like so like angry because it's something so cute, you're like, I wanna eat your cheeks. Cute aggression. Cute aggression, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this woman was like, you can get it all out. I've never heard that before, that's great. You can get it all out on cows.

You can hug them as hard as you want because they're so big. All right. And so you could just take out your cute aggression. And so I'm like, oh my God, I'm gonna cuddle a cow so hard. It's gonna be so cute. None of those cows are tough guys, are they?

Are you trying to fight a cow at the gentle? Barn? Say you say the cow can handle it all. Huh? Gentle barn. Are you going to come in with that energy to the gentle barn? Are you here to assault the animals? No, I'm not.

They're going to post up. I just want to know. I just want to know. I just want to check how they built. But that, oh, that does make sense because yeah, those animals are so like, like when I think of huge debate, my baby's like going up to like a cat or something, but a big ass cow, my brother's nothing you can do to them. Except it's not likely.

What do you just want to do? This is coming from AI over you, but I do remember reading to this is coming from AI over you but I do remember writing about this back in the day that cows are responsible for an average of 22 human deaths each year. Okay, but how many humans are responsible for how many cow deaths each year? Yeah, put the scoreboard up, fam. Are you trying to tone police and oppressed class in how they revolt against their oppressor? Yeah, I'm just saying watch them. Keep an eye on them.

That's great, so wait Jack, you're saying that so the cows are claiming 22 of our human lives a year? Uh-huh. Okay, well I'm just looking up the new stats from 2023. About 32.8 million cattle were slaughtered in the United States. Hold that cows, Hold that cows! Scoreboard! Scoreboard!

I don't think miles should go to the gentle barn. This is not the feeling coming into this about the milk puppies. I thought we were doing a scoreboard thing. I'm too caught up in sports. Scoreboard! We're not doing race wars with other species. Victor asked a very good question. Did you see that clip of that little girl who was at a rescue farm thing and then she was like, that's a cheeseburger.

My kids took a long time to connect the food to the animal. They're like, no, it's not chickens. Chicken, that's the same word, but it's for different things. That's the food chicken and those are our neighbors' cute chickens. I think that's how most people are in their brains. The deaths are not based on that. They're not like cheating this Victor, but Victor's like, Oh, is this them choking on steak or whatever, or like having heart attacks from a high-class raw in that.

If we added that as well as like their methane admissions, we would be. Yeah. That's a scoreboard. Yeah. Let's not ignore that scoreboard. Yeah. We, that might even things out. Yeah. The cows are like, we're playing the long game. We're doing it from the inside. Yeah, miles of scoreboard is totally upset.

Yeah, the cows are like, we're playing the long game. We're taking the earth down with us, bitch. Now this is like 20 to 22, like, smashings, where they're just like, smoshing people. Or like, dumb people are like doing cow tipping and then it like just rolls over on them and they're like dead now. And people are like, uh, farm related incident.

Let's not tell the whole truth of that one. Sure. Polly V what's something you think's underrated. If you guys haven't been watching paradise on Hulu. Oh my God. Sterling K Brown, James Marsden. Amazing. Does James Marsden die immediately right away?

No comment. Is he cucked before he dies? Is he cucked before he dies? Is he cucked before he dies? Is this a James Marsden joint? A proper James Marsden joint? This is a proper James Marsden joint. What is it about? It's, I can't, I can't, it's too much. You guys have to, you would be so upset. You can't even tell us what it's about? I can't, just watch it. It's, it's paradise. It has to do with the fate of the world. And every episode has like 10 episodes packed into one. It has to do with the fate of the world. You can't see, Victor says, don't spoil it. I can't, I can't.

Wait, what do you mean? Can I not even read like a description? Don't read, don't just watch it. Go in unspoiled. Don't read a description. Say hey. Don't talk to anyone. Don't look it up on Twitter. Just go watch it. It is so good. And more is revealed every episode. The description shows it.

Hey, Apple media assistant, turn on Paradise and then keep your eyes closed until you start hearing music. Yeah. You're not allowed to even. It is so good. Like, I feel like this is is like the Severance team will also be on this one. You know what I mean? Like everyone who loves Severance, I feel like you guys will love Paradise. It's more like action-packed because there's more crazy shit happening every episode, but there's so many twists and turns and it's just so well done.

And it also feels like it could actually happen. And you're like, oh my God. That's why I've been pitching that Severance should be recasting their main roles with Steven Seagal, Joe Claub and Dan, Sylvester Stallone. Mel Gibson. As Helly, Sylvester Stallone as Helly Orr. Sylvester Stallone as Helly Orr.

Get me out of here. All right. Well, I don't know. I guess that's a pretty intriguing endorsement. Yeah. Yeah, especially when the producer started spamming the chat, like, don't even read the description. Shut the fuck up! Shut the fuck up!

Somebody's spoiled it for me. Victor, I didn't say too much, right? I feel like, I don't know, it's just so good. Now that I see the image, I'm like, oh wait, I am familiar of what this show is, but I've only seen the very big log line. Miles, you're not allowed to look at the image! Don't look at anything, close your eyes! I know what it is, but I've only seen the very big log line. Miles, you're not allowed to look at the image. Don't look at anything. Close your eyes.

I know, but I knew what it is. But the log line is very innocuous. Oh, it's not. It ain't giving away much. It's so good. It just says a Secret Service team is tasked with safety. Miles! Oh! Now I'm never going to watch it.

Oh, my God, you ruined everything, Miles. I do. So I feel like it's been a while. I might need to retire my characterization of James Marsden as like somebody who gets cucked in movies. I think that's like where his career started. Okay, that's so true. Wait, but Enchanted. Enchanted? No, he got cucked, yeah.

Yeah, he got cucked a ton. He got cucked in that and the notebook. Yeah, No, he got cucked, yeah. Yeah, he got cucked a ton. He got cucked in that and the notebook. Yeah, the notebook he got cucked, like his character in the X-Men universe got cucked. Yeah. Right, like that was like sort of his, you know, Cyclops. In Sonic, he's getting cucked by the head god. So Sonic, I needed to do a little work

with the fan fiction to like get it there. Sonic is cucking the fuck out of him. Yeah. No, I love James Marston. He's so good. Yeah, he's great. Yeah, he's great. I mean, he was great in Jury Duty too.

Is that what that show was called? Yeah, I haven't seen that though. He's great. What is something you think is overrated? Okay, I haven't quite thought this out. Perfect. And I'm just going to, it's going to be like a hot take, mostly because I want it to apply something you think is overrated. Okay. I haven't quite thought this out. Perfect. And I'm just, it's going to be like a hot take mostly because I want it to apply to me, but like hating nepotism.

Normally I'm like, okay, I hate nepotism, but like now I want it to work for me. I'm like, let me be a nepo baby. I mean, I would love you turn around at the Oscars. Every other person is a nepo baby. You're like, what? How did this? And then all of the people with long-standing careers have family in the end. You're just like, oh, this would be so great if it was me.

Or if I used my engineering nepotism and just stayed in that industry, I'd be so much further. Caked up. I know. What are you gonna do? It blew my mind when like Harold Parano was like posting on Instagram. He was like, congratulations to my daughter's best friend for winning best actress last night. Wait, really? Yeah. And it's like Harold Parano's daughter, like Mikey Madison.

Harold Parano. Harold Parano is an icon, first of all. From Oz and Lost? From Romeo Cross Juliet as Mercutio. Mercutio. Michael from Scratch. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, he it was just wild to see that, too. And it's like clearly like, oh, my God.

So like everybody is it's it's like the reverse of like on TikTok when people are like, I I did it like the the 23 and me and my grandfather is a serial killer. It's like the opposite. Like the old people are outing the young people for being related to them. So how did Adrian Brody come back from that SNL thing where he did the Rasta accent? I hate Adrian Brody. He married the person who's the expert on getting someone uncancelled. Harvey Weinstein.

Oh, he did? Who is, wait, who is- His wife is Harvey Weinstein's ex-wife. Oh my God. Isn't that wild? That makes total sense for him sexually assaulting Halle Berry and also working with Woody Allen and Roman Polanski.

Jesus Christ. I hate Adrian Brody so much. She's got a great judge of character, it seems. Yeah. I mean, she's like, he has a terrible character and I love that. And I love that about him. And I love that about him. When I saw him do that Rasta man bit, I was like.

That was fun. Heart eyes. Harvey, I'm going to snitch on you because I found my new husband. All right, let's take a quick break, and we'll be right back. Have you ever looked into the night sky and wondered who or what was flying around up there?

We've seen planes, helicopters, hot air balloons, and birds, but what if there's something else, something much more ominous, that appears under the cover of night, silent, unseen, watching? They may be right above your car late one night as you cruise down the road, or look like mysterious lights hovering above your home. Drones. Or are they? We used the word drone because it was comfortable to other people. One minute it was there, one minute it wasn't.

Oh that is beyond creepy. Do you feel like this drone was targeting you specifically? Yes, absolutely. Listen to Obscurum, Invasion of the Drones, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you feel stuck in a job or a place or a relationship. Join me, Emily Tish Sussman, over on She Pivots, where I explore the inspiring pivots of women, dig deeper into the personal reasons behind them, and leave you with the inspiration you

need to make your next pivot. Every Wednesday, I sit down with women like Kamala Harris, Vanessa Hudgens, and armchair expert host Monica Padman. This March, we are continuing to uplift women in honor of Women's History Month with episodes from powerhouse Governor Gretchen Whitmer. I fell in love with public policy and that's kind of when I pivoted. Then later we dive into the rise of women's sports to learn how leaders like sports investor Carolyn Tisch Blodgett and former Gotham FC champion turn coach Michelle

Bados are shaping the industry. Come join us and listen to She Pivots on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey Will, do you ever get overwhelmed by how much science happens these days? Constantly. I'm like, ah, there's so much science, I can't keep track of it all. Then it's a good thing our podcast, Part-Time Geniuses, is counting down the 25 greatest science ideas from the past 25 years.

That's right, Mango, we're talking animals. In a paper called, quote, "'Chickens prefer beautiful humans.'" This was actually the title of the paper. They all discovered that much like humans, chickens are attracted to symmetrical faces. We're talking medical miracles. He's an endocrinologist who found a way

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of the 25 greatest science ideas of the past 25 years, starting Monday, March 3rd on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Amartines. The news can feel like a lot on any given day, but you can't just ignore las noticias when important world-changing events are happening. That is where the Up First podcast comes in. And we're back. And this is, this is an era of no responsibility, but like I either because maybe there is some,

you know, the remnants of some responsibility and consequences left at the bottom of the ketchup bottle, or maybe it's just like a vestigial, you know, reflex of people being like, don't look at me, but I just, I just started working here. But yeah, but mega and Elon Musk both seemed to be, uh, trying to be like, not us wasn't, it's not my fault. Why are you adding me? I think the Shaggy defense. Yeah, exactly.

Wasn't me. Or Shaggy. When we need that accent? A lot of people talking about how the 2014 Obama White House Correspondence Dinner was the start of all this talking shit to Trump. I think it was the Shaggy song. I think it was. I think it was the shocker. You know what I mean?

But look, I think we're all well aware of the awful shit that the regime is doing in regards to basic rights and the economy and the federal workforce. Well, it's clear to us, the not shitty people of America, that these things are bad and should not be tolerated. But like as MAGA voters begin to openly question if all this bad shit they are seeing Trump and Musk do is actually bad. We see how like the media again does their job on the right wing to train them into believing that bad is not bad that you're seeing.

This is actually just pre good is what you're experiencing. It's critical thinking back. Is that so bad? Almost almost so for starters, right one of the big questions I think from a lot of people in the mago world is like well who the fuck is responsible for all this shit I just lost my job. Yeah Contracts are being canceled the outlook on you know contracts are being canceled. The outlook on, you know, agricultural exports looks Memphis bleak,

to put it lightly. And a lot of the response after the State of the Union was that Trump did fuck all to convince anyone that things will get better in any measurable way. And people are just left with just kind of like, what the fuck? So what are we supposed to think here? Because you did all this stuff,

and you promised us day one price drops, but it's not happening. So here's Larry Kudlow on Fox Business telling people, it's like, look, I know all the indicators and data say things are bad. Okay. But it just, trust me, this is, it's not bad. It's pre-good. The GDP now tracker from the Atlanta Fed is showing, I mean for the first quarter, a minus two and a half or minus 2.8 percent and we've had lousy numbers on things like

housing and business investment. My generic point here with respect to affordability and the economy is we're gonna have to suffer through some bad news. This has nothing to do with Trump. Trump's programs not in yet and I got people on the left who are blaming Trump. How can you blame Trump when he wasn't the entire economy around in 30 days. You can actually you can and you seemingly have in that you're crashing it fucking very rapidly. I mean, if you just like fire everyone and change the rules, you kind of can. Yeah, it's way easier to tear things down than build things up, which is why we are tearing things down. Thank you. Exactly. Yeah, this is change.

It's not so much hope, but we do have change. It is change. I didn't say for the better, but this is change. It's not so much hope, but we do have change. It is change. I didn't say for the better, but it is change. And I just love again, how they are so again, cause they have no like terra firma they stand on when it comes to like anything that they argue about. But sometimes- Okay bilingual. It's, you know what I mean?

I'm out here. This is radio bilingual. Bienvenidos. But you know I'm out here. This is Radio Bilingue. Bienvenidos. But, you know, like, they used to do the thing where, like, the Republicans inherit a great economy from a Democratic presidency and they go, look at what the economy is doing. But in this instance, when they fuck it up, then they're like, these seeds were planted long ago. It's out of our hands, man. We can't take credit for this. So very, very, I guess, not the most convincing sort of argument, but this is kind of where

they're headed. And I feel like, yeah, this, this happens both sides, right? Like the economy, you know, bouncing back from a shit economy, like both sides are going to be like, well, you know, give us a little bit of time. That makes sense. The thing that really kind of feels like a shift in tone for this administration is Elon Musk. Right. Yeah.

Coming through. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, because he talks weird. That's why the tone is off. Yes. Tone off in that way, but also him now no longer. He went from a week, like less than a week ago being like, I'm the cutter to the degree of having like a cartoonishly big chainsaw to now being like, could, could you actually not?

So right now, like to your point, right? Musk feels the heat from all the outrage over his curb stomping of the federal workforce. So now he's giving Republicans their little propaganda talking points to say essentially that Doge is not responsible for these cuts. This is from CNN. Quote, in his meeting with House Republicans, Musk also attempted to distance himself from the widespread firings across the federal government, which he blamed on federal department heads.

GOP representative Derek Van Orden said that Musk told the group that recently announced plans to cut more than 70,000 jobs at the Department of Veteran Affairs, quote, wasn't a Doge decision. The Wisconsin Republican added that Musk told lawmakers that, quote, individual departments were involved in plans to cut employees across the federal government and that Doge was making the quote assumption that department heads know who is being quote unproductive and would quote reward the people that are being productive. So, uh, a little bit more, uh, yeah, he, again, he's the one finding the cuts to make, but then he's like, well, they're the ones

that are actually cutting. They're the ones who actually decide to do it. Can you send a fucking email to everyone being like, we're gonna cut you if you don't like send us a five point bullet of what you've done. Five rate of states now. Yeah, top five, top five everyone. Let me see your top five, okay?

Let me see your top eight friends on MySpace. But yeah, this is just the I think because of all of like, it's clear that this has been a huge hang up for Republicans and they're all probably banging on the fucking White House door and Musk's door would be like, what are you supposed to say? Like you guys are doing this shit. I don't even know how to tell them who's responsible. Like Musk's response. Like say it's like the department heads. I'm surprised Musk didn't just do the most Republican thing.

He'd be like, Oh, it's the immigrants that are doing the cuts. Just say that. I mean, that's sort of the underlying logic of all of this is because we have, everything is so bad because of immigrants or government waste or whatever. Yeah. But I mean, I feel like the easiest place to spot waste is in the fucking Pentagon's budget. Like that's where you hear the most ludicrous, like nonsense spending you've ever heard

of. But yeah, this is, this is where this is, this is the direction they're going. And right now Musk is also blabbing on Twitter like that. He's like, like welcoming a government shutdown and doesn't care if the Republicans can't get their shit in time. Yeah. Cause he wants to provide all the services for like, like welcoming a government shut down and doesn't care if the Republicans can't get their shit in time. Cause he wants to provide all the services for like, for the government. Look how it doesn't work. Yeah.

Cause now he's like, we need to privatize Amtrak and the post office. And like, this is, this is like the most sort of bumbling way to get to this. It's like, well, sabotage it. So then everyone's like, privatize it. But when you're doing it, when you're telegraph, I mean, I don't know. It's not being telegraphed to everyone, obviously, but it seems pretty clear that that's kind of part of the whole plan here. Yeah.

Just privatize it, let him take over. And then, uh, we're all, we're all fucked because he's actually not good at the things that everybody assumes he's really good at. No, no, no, no. Like parenting. That is the one thing that I really... I mean, if he wasn't good at parenting, Paulie, why would he have so many kids? Okay, true.

Checkmate. Thank you. Checkmate. Also, there's some relation between Elon Musk having a million kids and Trump's new advertising being like, daddy's home. Cause he never usually is. You know what I mean? Daddy's always gone. Uh, make an ad about like daddy being home that like my kids could watch.

So then I don't know. Like they, I wonder, he feels like the type of dad who would give them like a boyfriend, his kids, a boyfriend pillow to hold at night to be like, I'm not going to be there, but here you hold on. No, because he refuses to help support his kids. Doesn't he like not pay for his kid in Texas or something because he can get away with not paying. Well, like my dad didn't give me, you know, he gave me like one diamond

mind, like, you know, so like, and now look at me. So that's yeah, he's, He's a self-made man. He's just passing that favor along to, oh, wait, I'm sorry. He was born rich and just bought a bunch of companies and is good at extracting wealth from people. I wish his kids were self-made so they wouldn't have to say they're made from him. You know what I mean? Yeah. That is horrific.

Yeah. Self-made with a turkey baster by his partners, you know, in many ways. In many ways. All right. Latest trend, hot trend in the legal world is people using AI to generate briefs for cases, that then they turn into the judge and the judge, there's a term for this now called hallucination sites,

C-I-T-E-S, and it's where they're citing case law from cases that didn't actually happen. Oh, fuck. We're so cooked. Yeah, I know. We talked about this when we had Emily Bender and Alex Hannah on last year about like what what large language models are. They're basically auto corrects or auto completes that are just doing

whatever they can to give you the appearance that they're thinking and like trick you into thinking that they have like done this work for you. And wait, that's also Trump and Musk. That's crazy. Yeah, that's a lot of things. That's the entire yeah, it's the whole new ethos of like just good enough to fool people. And which is fine if you're using it to correct for the wage theft at your job. That's right. And so they, lawyers are starting to use AI because, and I don't know, like we're

all like, everybody's has more and more work to do for less and less money. Like for other than CEOs. I know doctors who are using it to complete their notes. Right. Like I, yeah, everybody's getting fucking pinched So that helps to me. I'm sorry I think it can save them time like in terms of like like cuz their notes are like they'll like Input like they'll say it out loud or whatever and then like have I don't know what they do

But like they I think it helps it's supposed to help with the paperwork time. And I'm all for AI like helping with the shit we don't want to do. But I'm also like, I don't want people to get lazy at the expense of our lives. No, not the price. I don't know. Let the AI diagnose this. Just have the AI look at the chart. Yeah, that's where it gets dangerous. Yeah, that part gets a little dangerous. So judges are now having to find lawyers. And there's this one case that 404 media called out. That's pretty fun where the lawyer explained that he had used AI before to assist with legal matters such as drafting agreements and did not know

that AI was capable of generating fictitious cases and citations. These hallucinations sites included text excerpts, which appeared to be credible. He reported he has since, this is wild. He reported that he has since taken continuing legal education courses on the topic of AI use and continues to use AI products,

which he has been assured will not produce hallucinations. Hey, shit head, what do you mean you've been, what the fuck, disbar these people. Okay, this is just the lawyer from Arrested Development. Right. That's all it is. Yeah, this is blah, blah, blah. Barry, no, it's the Barry Sucker corn. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah.

What is it, Henry Winkler's? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Henry Winkler, arson, arson investigator, Henry Winkler. The judge's response was, it is abundantly clear that Mr. Ramirez did not make the requisite reasonable inquiry into the law. Had he expended even minimal effort to do so,

he would have discovered that the AI generated cases do not exist, that the AI generated excerpts appeared valid to Mr. Ramirez, does not relieve him of his duty to conduct a reasonable inquiry. Just because they looked good to you, like you think that's a good enough excuse. And then to be like, and I'm going to keep on using it. Like it just, this, this seems to be an emerging problem with AI that wasn't

like one of the big concerns I had going in is that it seems to be like more fun. And it's, I guess it seems more reliable to the people using it than it actually is. So like reliable for fucking around. Right. You know, it's like trying to talk a drunk person out of driving. Like, and they're just like, no, we're what I'm, I'm fucking amazing to like combining alcohol with like driving is actually like, I'm, I'm a better driver. Yeah, actually slower. Cause I know I'm drunk and I don't want to get pulled over.

But like the promise of something that can make you like look smart with minimal effort for like people in like this world where we're all being stepped on by like massive corporations is like just too good to be true. And so people are just like drunk on the promise of like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, you know, like, in this world where we're all being stepped on by massive corporations is just too good to be true. And so people are just drunk on the promise of that and end up just doing the wildest shit. And then even when they get caught, aren't willing to be like,

I guess I shouldn't use AI. They're just like, I guess I'll just keep using AI. This is also tech. This is just like a literacy in I'll just keep using it. This is also like tech. This is just like a literacy in general, I think, like tech illiteracy. We never have like the ethical implications ahead of the technology. It's always behind. And I think like, because of that, we're eventually like not going to have the tech development or the medical development or like the

application of these solutions in like the broad population because we're just like too far behind like educating people on this shit. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's great. Dr. Ian Malcolm said your scientists were so preoccupied with other or not they could. They didn't stop to think if they should.

Oh, holy shit. That's like a real doctor, right? I read that online. Yeah, that's actually my doctor. Real guy. Unfortunately, that is my, uh. My pediatrician, my kid. I mean, no, the thing with this is I can't believe though, too. I guess it's super frightening.

It also just reveals the level of intellect of people that just can get into a certain field. Like we're like, I mean, not that I thought every single lawyer is a genius, but that on some level there was like the basics. We were like, OK, don't use AI to cite the case of beggars v. choosers in a court document. Right. But God, that's what's I don't know. Like, that's when I'm like, wow. I don't think that.

And that years ago, when I first't know, like that's when I'm like, wow. And then I defended that. Years ago, when I first started standup, these are my friends and people who listen to me may know the podcast I was on. And so we're all cool, but there was an episode of a podcast I did with my friends and they were like, well, what makes you more of a scientist than I am? Ooh, shit.

And they weren't scientists. And I knew then that we were cooked. Because people will just be like, well, I do my own research, and it's YouTube videos. You know what I mean? Like, Googling. And you can learn a lot. Watching YouTube videos at 2x speed.

I tutor with YouTube, but you can learn a lot. But you do have to know things. You can use tools. To know which YouTube videos are not lying. Exactly. But for people to have that arrogance of, well, I'm also in this field because I say I am. Right.

Actually, my scientific method is I can just, I watch the YouTube videos at 2x speed, and then I watch the ones that have monetization turned off because then they don't get broken up by ads. And so therefore I learn five times as much. It has nothing to do with the fact that the monetization being turned off is because they- It's misinformation.

Why is the Holocaust? Well, and also I'm not going to pay for YouTube premium, dude. That shit's a racket. I can't even figure out how to put ad blockers in Chrome. So fuck it. Yeah, it's funny when people turn, like it feels like that sort of attack of being like, well, why aren't I a scientist?

As if this is like a philosophical question about like, well, what is? It's like, you could have done it. You could have just got, everybody who has, I mean, not everybody, because they need resources and shit, but like these people definitely could have done it had they wanted to. Yeah, I do. But I do think it's not necessarily.

I think we're all dealing with the same shit of massive corporations, just everybody. Like every bottom line is being shaved down and down and down until one person's doing the work of four people. And then they're like, this AI thing is a lifesaver and they just don't take the time to realize that it sucks shit. Like I keep thinking about that Google Super Bowl. It was like an ad for Google AI. We've talked about it a lot where the Google AI is being advertised as making the writing and research easy for a cheese farmer

who has to put labels and marketing together for his cheese. And it had a blatantly fake thing. It said Gouda is responsible for 60% of the cheese consumption in the world, which is like obviously false. And like, just, they just, again, like it's the just not, not wanting to admit that AI sucks because it's like the answer to all these people's prayers. And it's like the answer to the stock market's prayers. And so like, I think that's the only way to explain, like, how do you not fucking check your work? Like the whole ad hinges on these facts being right. And you don't check the facts.

You don't like it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I think I'm okay. I have, I had an immigrant mom. So I'm checking my shit, bro. There you go.

You know, I mean, it's different, different levels, different levels to that. I'm also just but I mean, like even thinking about a lawyer, right? That's different than like someone who's having to like do all this like paperwork at a company, right? Like an attorney, like if you're a criminal defense attorney, like this joker is, you have it, you have you're charging real fucking money. And the assumption is, why am I paying you not $1,000 an hour, whatever your hourly rate is for you to fucking use AI like then I just that's just inexcusable.

But I feel like that justification can be applied to everyone because everyone can be like, well, I'm working really hard. I may not be getting paid as much but I like don't have as much time I have my family, whatever. It's like what Jack said. Similarly with doctors, they're like, well, if I don't have to do the paperwork, then I can see the patient more.

You know what I mean? Sure. I guess there's levels, right? Because one is filing a legal brief about a case where you're citing case law to bolster your argument in court. If you're merely using AI to summarize your notes, that seems pretty harmless. Yeah, I think we haven't been taught like where the harm is. And flawless by the way because they're so good at summarizing the

texts and emails that I get. So AI is so good at that. That is funny on Apple now when you see some of the messages, they're like, yeah, your friend believes, uh, so, so like Mavericks cooked also dinner plans Tuesday. This is not, this had nothing to, no one even said the Mavericks were cooked in this text, but anyway, uh, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. Have you ever looked into the night sky and wondered who or what was flying around up there?

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of the 25 greatest science ideas of the past 25 years, starting Monday, March 3rd on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Amartines. The news can feel like a lot on any given day, radio app, apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back! We're back! And we're back! Over the break we were talking about Mudeng. Where I was saying wait wait, wait, what happened to Moudang? Did Moudang get canceled? What?

She got canceled because she chose Trump as the winner for the election. From a predictive standpoint, or endorsing, like endorsing the policies of I think because she's a woman, she's a girl. Why can't we just let people, it's misogyny on the internet. I mean, I also thought Trump was going to win. Yeah, me too. I didn't want it to happen. No, yeah, exactly.

That's fucked up, man. But moody, because it's a woman who is hot on the internet and there's so many haters out there trying to take her down. Oh, actually, okay. Oh my God, Victor. Supervisor Victor, actually. okay. So producer Victor actually, am I allowed to reveal this? Victor had a friend who worked with her

and she's apparently problematic as fuck. Oh my God. I cannot believe that. Wait, hold on, Victor said that Mudeng hides, hold on, Mudeng hides toothpicks in her pen to see if the zookeepers are actually cleaning the pen. The zookeepers actually clean up with the sufficient attention to detail. Oh my God.

My God, I thought that was only Ellen who did that. You don't find that fucking toothpick? You're fired. You're fired, asshole. That's what I'm fired. And I'm Mudang. You can't cancel Mudang for not being kind. She bites people in public.

That's her whole thing. Her whole fucking thing. Her whole thing is being problematic. Shit. All right. Well, break back. So Mudang though is being uncancelled, we feel like, or is it, is the lifespan for the cuteness of a baby hippo short? And it's like-

I'm sorry, I've been calling this Cincinnati- Michael Jackson- Oh, go ahead. Hitting puberty. And it's like Michael Jackson hitting puberty where they're just like, get this kid out of here. They're like chemically castrate this boy. Yeah, Michael Jackson famously not popular after hitting puberty.

I'm not familiar with the latter part of his career. Oh, OK. Just a big fan of ABC. How do you think they kept that voice high? Anyway, what were you saying? Just ABC. You're like, he had that one hit wonder, ABC. Yeah.

Knocked the Beatles off the charts. Wait, were you asking something? I was asking, are there other hippos that have taken Mudeng's place or were just like? No, it's just other baby animals, like the baby tapir in Oregon. There's like another baby, there was like a, there's baby something, I don't know.

But it's all the zoos have been capitalizing on Moody's presence. But also Moody took over the Cincinnati zoo, Pygmy hippos, Fritz and family, you know? So like, it's a cycle, you know? If you're following the zoo accounts like I am, then you know it's a cycle. On that zoo beat? On that zoo beat.

Zoo beat, zoo beat, zoo. Quick! Zoo beat, zoo beat, zoo. That's good. Zoo beat, zoo beat. I forget how that sounds. Anyway, Sesame Street is union busting now. Alright, next question, Your Honor. Wait, what do you mean? Because who's organized? Who's getting organized over there? The writers of Puppeteers are already in unions, but there's a new union that from the-

Wait, what do you mean? What do you mean, Puppeteers? OK, so this is going to be a tough one. I told you, Miles. I told you this is- Well, look at this. Moodang videos. Oh, cute. OK, cool. I told you this is. Look at this, a moodang video. Oh, cute. Okay, cool.

I'm going to go watch this. Paulie is going to be watching that while we talk. I love her. Yeah, keep watching that, Paulie. The nonprofit that produces Sesame Street announced that they're unionizing, debuted a new union logo that's basically just a Muppet version of the Predator handshake meme.

It's like- You son of a bitch. Yeah. Grasping hand in hand. Rest in peace, Carl Weathers. But so the writers of Puppet- Wait, what happened to Carl Weathers? Oh, him died.

No. Yeah. This new yu-ging doesn't cover writers and... It covers workers such as the early childhood education experts, fundraisers, facilities, staff, producers, and paral, so. The other scaffolding for, for production infrastructure. Yeah, all the scaffolding, all the invisible scaffolding that happens behind the scenes that makes it as good, like stand out from other children. Especially childhood education. Early childhood education specialist.

It is the whole reason that I was like, okay, like Sesame Street, yeah, like that's it. There's so much shit, like Sesame Street. Yeah. Like that's it. There's so much shit. Like there's so much the world of early childhood entertainment is like, evolves incredibly fast these days. There's like some scary shit about like, okay, so these ones are actually really

bad for your kid's brains because it's just like flashing lights and shit. And like, it's trying to, it's just like not good. And so the fact that like Sesame Street has from day one been like, we consulted, first step, we consulted early childhood educators and like had them shape how we like present information to children is like one of the coolest things about Sesame Street. So they are finally being like, uh, we feel like we should like be protected. And one day after it was announced that they were unionizing, Sesame Workshop announced that they would be significantly downsizing, laying off more than 200 employees, which is, I mean, this all. Is Elon Musk in charge of that too? It just, it feels like he's in charge of everything.

It feels like, I mean, the entertainment industry has, you know, been slowly taken over by finance people and it's resulted in budget slashing, specifically of things that aren't overtly like present on screen. So writers rooms turn into a handful of writers being put on onerous contracts. In this case, the early childhood education experts, you won't miss those the first episode after they're gone. The monsters and puppets, the writers will still be writing the same cute shit. But like long-term, like same way that like,

you know, streaming content, you can just like tell there's like something missing a little bit. Like they're just like not quite to the level of what you're used to from years past as they're- Bring back black sitcoms. Yeah. Where are all the black sitcoms other than Abbott? I love Abbott. Yeah. You mean woke sitcom?

I don't know. I mean, that's the whole fucking, there's bring back production. Yes. To a fucking. You know, they go from like. Stay in Los Angeles. They go from a writer's room of like eight people who are hanging out,

like having fun to like writers, Google docs of four people, you know? And it's like, so there's like, you could, the jokes like feel similar, similarly like good and in places. And so you're not totally noticing it, but it's just the overall quality. Like it, I just feel like this is the overall direction of the entire economy. Like you hide the poorly paid employees, like Amazon's entire trick is like, okay. So like, you know, if you pay the people who work at the store like absolute shit and like, you know, charge them money for taking bathroom breaks, people are going to notice that.

That, that is going to show up in like the customer experience at the store. But if you never interact with those people, if the customer never interacts with those people, then we can just treat them like absolute shit and like just shave it down and down and down. So the quality suffers, but not in a way that's like immediately and overtly obvious to people. You know what I mean? And like that just seems to be the entire trick of how everything functions. Now is like, how do we just keep shaving it down further and further to worse and worse products that people can't like immediately see, oh, this sucks shit like right away on day one.

But it eventually just like- But it eventually hits that point. It eventually hits that point. It's like quantity over quality. They're doing like these things called verticals now in LA where it's like, it's basically like, what can I watch on my phone to take like the movie experience away from the user?

And it's also like the worst friggin' scripts and soapy things. And I will work on them if you hire me. And it's almost like AI slop. But it's like they're using like, it's weird. They're using like Chinese AI, translating it and then translating it again and then making it consumable for American markets. Like the process is so convoluted and it's so unnecessary when you could just get like a couple writers in a room together. I didn't know that's what you're talking about. I know some people who

have been writing those. I had to write on like a version of that for a few months. And then they laid me off and cut my access to the Slack. And it was awful. Like the material that they got from the AI was terrible. And I didn't know that's what I was signing up for when I first started. It was crazy. Woof, woof. Yeah.

And what is the ultimate product that- Just like weird, trashy, soapy, and I love trash. We know my love for reality TV, but like weird, trashy, soapy podcasts or verticals, things that you can watch on your phone, like 10 minute episodes. And it's like, you could have that, but like better quality if you just used human beings

in a way that allowed them to do art. Yeah, it's like basically getting getting into that TikTok scroll habit, but with chunked out shows. With the worst content, with really inhuman content. Do people actually watch that shit? Like, that's what I don't understand. Apparently, it's stuff to put up on. And people are getting hired.

I mean, like we've said, a bubble, but yeah, we know people that have been hired to work on that stuff, because that seems to be like some of the only places that grow. Yeah, that's where the money is. And we would much rather make like wonderful media, but we can't because like everybody from the top down is investing in this trash. Right.

Do do. What if we invested in doodoo? Okay, go on. I'm intrigued. That was easy. Yeah. It's wild. I don't know. I'm sure eventually there will be a point in the future, like after independent media starts

like just dominating in terms of the quality of content that these massive industries will start being like, all right, I guess we fucking, we need, we need to make things good again. People have to abandon that product first for any of that, for that to make sense to like these massive studios and stuff. I mean, like, we, like you're saying like there's independent film has helped chip away at that or like these smaller budget sort of indie capital I indie kind of films. Yeah. But yeah.

Like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Indie. Yeah. Indiana Jones from The Last Person. Like Indian people? Like us? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm sorry, I meant Bollywood.

Bollywood, sorry, sorry. Thank you. Ind exactly. I'm sorry, I meant Bollywood. Indie film. You really should stop calling Bollywood the Indie movies. I'm sorry, Hindi, Hindi. You know like those indie stars, Shahrukh Khan and Khadil. Alright, Pallavi, it's been so wonderful having you guest on this indie podcast. Now that I'm here. What if we gave it more of an indie vibe?

What's the Paulavy? We had SZA on, we had FIZZA on, I said SZA. We had SZA. Wait, she did dress up like a Hindu. Pallavi, where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I'm at Pallavi, Gnallin, P-A-L-L-A-V-I-G-U-N-A-L-A-N, except on Blue Sky, I'm just Pallavi because I got it. And you can find me this weekend in San Francisco.

I'm headlining the function, the only black-owned comedy club in the Bay Area. It's hella funny, the people who run it. It's also their brand. Wow, you really came with that Bay Area. You said, okay, okay, I hear you. No, that's the name of their, that was the name of the brand before they did that. So that's why it's in my head.

Oh, got it, got it, got it, got it, okay, perfect. But also they are hella funny. But I'm gonna be there doing like four shows this weekend. It's gonna be super fun. We have facial recognition at the Comedy Store. Our show is on March 21st at 10 p.m. in the Belly Room. And then also just find me everywhere. I'm really excited to just do standup a lot now.

And then are you practicing your Thistle dance? My what dance? Okay. We got some work to do. The bird, any Bay Area dance. The iconic Bay Area dance. Oh, doctor. Sorry. I didn't hear. Wait, can you just do that again for my entertainment? You're doing the bird in a closet right now.

And then the sneeze. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. I'm more of a Glenn Stefani Bay Area person in that I just use the word hella a lot. I don't know the etymology of anything. Yeah, and I'm from Orange County, Virginia. I just exploit it for my own uses.

Yeah, I got it. Amazing. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Okay, yeah, there's two things. One, the New York Post just tweeted, the downfall of my enemy, Olympic break dancer Reagan's brother Brendan Gunn has been charged $100K in crypto fraud. And I knew it. I knew she was surrounded by bad people. She's my fucking nemesis.

You guys were so excited about her. I hate her. Okay. You guys are so excited. I'll fucking break dance with her. Miles, you got it tatted. Yeah. I don't know.

You guys were really into Raegan, and I was like, this bitch is my enemy, my human enemy. The way I love Moodang is the way I hate Raegan. I was just into her because I thought she was a good dancer. Oh, my God. And I was into her because I thought it was- You hate her Oh my God. And I was into her because I thought it was- You hate her politics, you love her dancing. I thought it was just so unfair what they were saying to her.

People trying to gatekeep break dancing. It just felt really gross to me. Okay, well, I think she's terrible and I hope she never dances again. And I think I wanna gatekeep it from her. I just wanna live in a world where I can be a fucking neurobiologist and she can be an Olympic break dancer.

Okay. We're not trying to give definition. Yeah, you can. You can just AI neurobiology or whatever. Anyways, she's awful. Her brother's terrible. I'm so happy for their downfall. And then I also saw a tweet by Science Girl at Guns N' Roses Girl 3.

And it's a video of an Alaskan bear correcting a fallen roadside cone. He's just like, he's like walking along this road, and he turns it upright, and then at all to Zach, A-L-L-T-O-O-Z-A-C, was like, yeah, they gotta do it themselves now, since Trump fired like 90% of the National Park Service. The bears are taking our jobs.

That's right. Wonderful. Well, again, wonderful having you, Miles. Where can people find you? Is there a work comedian you've been enjoying? Yes. Damn, I'm trying to find this fucking tweet. But anyway, yes, it says, you can find me at milesandbray, wherever they got at symbols. You might even find Jack and I roaming the streets of Austin, Texas this week.

potentially is we gear up for the podcast awards. Please come back to us. Please come back. Oh, and in cowboy boots with heels so thick, I'm going to twist my ankle just trying to walk in them. But yeah, find us there. Find Jack on the basketball podcast. Mousen Jack got mad boosties. You can also find us, you know, out here.

Just also talking about 90 day fiance. And by say us, I mean Sophia Alexander and I on 420 day fiance talking 90 day fiance. A tweet I like is from so New York basketball like is like a Twitter account that takes pictures of people at the Knicks games and stuff like that. And there's a picture of John Totoro, like old John Totoro, like courtside and it says Irving courtside. And then someone quote tweeted that and said, this is what J.K. Rowling would name a black character. I saw that too.

Irving courtside. I saw that too. There are so many, this is what J.K. Rowling, I saw it too. I saw it too. There are so many. This is what JK Rowling, like there was this black actress named Ebony Obsidian or whatever. Yes. Oh shit. Yeah. JK Rowling is named.

Yeah. That's so good. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on blue Sky, Jack O'Bee, the number one tweet I've been enjoying. Noah Garfinkel tweeted, you've been hit by, you've been struck by a gray Subaru. That made me laugh. That is such a zeitgeist ass tweet.

That's such an intro ass tweet. You just love changing the lyrics. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. Please conform to that count of syllables, please. I'm going to bait you. I'm going to start tweeting lyric puns, and then I'm going to see if you bring it up on the show.

Just one word slightly off. You got it. They love it. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist and on Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist and on Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes.

Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also do that in the show description. Wherever you listen to this, just click on the episode and look at the show description, and you will find the footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, the tweets that we enjoyed. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Say Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy?

Yeah. Well, Roy Ayers passed away recently and he is an iconic sort of jazz fusion, jazz funk composer, fucking vibes player and by that I mean vibraphonist. And yeah, I think people get familiar with music. His body work is fantastic. I think most people know him from Everybody Loves the Sunshine. Is that his iconic track? But we'll go out on a cover of that track, Everybody Loves the Sunshine,

by the Brazilian artist, Su Jorge. So this is Su Jorge's version of Everybody Loves the Sunshine. Everybody Loves the Sunshine. Check it out, feels good, cause we all do love the sunshine. And folks get frowning the sunshine. Yeah.

All right. We'll go like after that. All right, Pete. In the footnotes, the Daily Psych is the production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever.

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