The Daily Zeitgeist - Sex Crim Out On Good Behavior, Trump Learned What Google Is 8.29.18

Episode Date: August 29, 2018

In episode 222, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Bechdel Cast co-host Caitlin Durante to discuss the rise of consumer confidence, the popularity of unboxing videos, Louis C.K's return to the ...stage, Google searches about Trump, Lindsay Graham's current opinion on Jeff Sessions, the new 7-Eleven delivery app, how America uses it's land, how alcohol isn't healthy at all, and more!FOOTNOTES:1. US consumer confidence rises to 18-year high2. How Unboxing Videos Soothe Our Consumerist Brains3. Louis C.K. Performs Stand-Up Set at Club Since Admitting to #MeToo Cases4. Here are 51 comedians who never forced women to watch them masturbate5. 96 Percent of Google Search Results for 'Trump' News Are from Liberal Media Outlets6. @LindseyGrahamSC explains why his opinion of AG Jeff Sessions has changed7. 7-Eleven Now App8. Here's How America Uses Its Land9. No healthy level of alcohol consumption, says major study10. WATCH: Ross From Friends - John Cage Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:06 Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 46, Episode 3 of Der Daily Zeitgeist! For Wednesday, August 29th, 2018. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. 8-6-7-5-3 O'Brien. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray there's this place on Ocean Avenue where Miles would used to sit and talk with you we were both 16 and it felt so right
Starting point is 00:02:34 sleeping all gray staying up all nine fucking yellow card Ocean Avenue aka by Hannah Soltis at soltis hannah thank you i remember when you tweeted at me i said this is a go because i love this song and also fun fact uh violinist who played in yellow card he tried to claim to people that he invented the rock backflip like he was the
Starting point is 00:03:02 first dude to do a backflip on stage. Really? I was like, okay, you might be the first dude with a violin in a rock band to do a backflip on stage, but come on, my guy. That's not you. That's a great claim to make. My AK was courtesy of Levi Tucker or Levy Tucker. It's Levi. Yeah, I think I got it right.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I like Levy. It's Levy. Levy. Leviosa. Anyways, and I may have done that one before, according to Super Producer Nick Stump, but it's a good one. So you're welcome. For the rerun, only the hits. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the co-host of the hottest new podcast on the Hey Sluts What's Up Network.
Starting point is 00:03:42 The Bechdel cast is that podcast. Please welcome Caitlin Durante. Hi, a.k.a. Launder Titanic, which is an anagram for Caitlin Durante. Launder Titanic. Uh-huh. I have a bunch of these, so every time I come on, Latin. Don't burn them all now. I know.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Okay, never mind, never mind. Let me read it. I do want to hear it. Latin. burn them all now. I know. Okay, never mind, never mind. Let me read it. I do want to hear it. Latin Dancer UTI. That's amazing. Those are courtesy. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Latin Dancer UTI. Those are courtesy of my pal, comedian Zach Sherwin. Damn. But I have written a few of my own. So there's like 10 of these out there. Damn. And more if you want to try anagramming some of these yourself. I wonder. His mind works in a very strange way.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Very funny dude. And good rapper. Latin dancer UTI. Well, Jamie, my co-host of the Bechtel cast, she drew illustrations for a lot of the ones. Oh, shit. I'll show you guys. See, that's why your merch store is so lit. Also, go get their merch. Yeah, their merch is lit. Feminist icon
Starting point is 00:04:51 merch. Feminist icon t-shirt. It's selling better than Kanye West's clothing brand. It is. That's what I'm reading. The hottest selling merch on the Hey Sluts, What's Up Network merch store. I don't know if I'm even allowed to say that, but it's the trade secrets.
Starting point is 00:05:07 So fuck it. All right, Caitlin, we're going to get to know you even better, but first we're going to tell our listeners what we're going to be talking about today. We're going to be talking about America's consumption engine. Our consumer confidence is at an 18-year high. And also unboxing videos. There are 74 million of them on the internet.
Starting point is 00:05:28 So we thought we'd celebrate those two testaments to just the very acute form of insanity that we suffer from as a nation. We're going to talk about more like me who? Because Louie's back. Uh-oh. And Miles is loving it. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba. because Louie's back and Miles is loving it. And we're also going to be talking about how Woody Allen is doing these days. A little twin me too update.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I don't know why I used a baby voice. That was a little creepy. We're going to be talking about the president's anti-Google rant, Gish Gallop-tastic, to quote Andrew T., and then somebody who adds tastic on the end of words. We're going to talk 7-Eleven finally having its own delivery app, which is big news for dirtbags everywhere.
Starting point is 00:06:18 We're going to talk about how... I'm including myself in that. Oh, okay. We're going to talk about how American land is actually used. There's a pretty cool article with really cool illustrations about what the actual United States of America is made up of. And we're going to talk about a study that found that no level of drinking is safe despite all these years of us telling ourselves and being told that a glass of red wine a night is actually good for you.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Booze. Yeah, there you go. Nice. I just wrote that. I had to write that. Hot off the presses, ladies and gentlemen. I'm not very quick with my mind. Miles just threw that postcard down.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And on to the next joke. But first, Caitlin, we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are i just searched for ewok adventure dvd i don't exactly remember why i searched for this but i did and i think i was like trying to figure out if if that ewok Adventure movie was canon, and I guess if it was on DVD, because I specifically searched for the DVD of it. Do you have a DVD player?
Starting point is 00:07:33 I sure do. You do. You got to these days. You don't have one? No, I'm still VHS, man. No, I don't have one. Well, if you recall, I am one of the few people left alive who is still getting DVDs from Netflix. Oh, you're one of the three million? But there's three million of you, I think, still.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Really? That's a lot. It was some really wild figure. It's probably people 50 or older, I'm guessing. I know my mother is definitely one of them. Yeah, that was the thing. Three million people are still getting DVDs delivered to them from Netflix. Because a lot of stuff, you know, like if you want,
Starting point is 00:08:11 my mom watches a bunch of like obscure BBC dramas, like English dramas. You can only get that on the DVD. So that's how, you know, she watches her like Poirot old school shit. Yeah, I mean the DVDs you have access to basically everything, right? Essentially, yeah. They have DVDs for everything. If it is a DVD. I mean I feel like maybe DVDs, you have access to basically everything, right? Essentially, yeah. They have DVDs for everything. If it is a DVD. I mean, I feel like
Starting point is 00:08:27 maybe there's some obscure things that you can't get, but by and large, right? Yeah, I think so. Or I don't know, you're the one using it. I'm the expert here, yeah. They got it all?
Starting point is 00:08:35 Pretty much. Did you look on Netflix for the Ewok Adventure DVD? I didn't. I don't necessarily care enough to watch it. I just wanted to make sure it was out there.
Starting point is 00:08:44 That it actually happened and wasn't like a hallucination from your childhood. Were there two or was there just one? Caravan of Courage. You know what? I simply don't know. I remember when it came out as a kid, I just kind of felt cheated because I was like, that's the thing from Star Wars. But where's all the real Star Wars stuff I'm looking for?
Starting point is 00:09:02 Excuse me? Ewoks are the coolest part of Star Wars. They're violent cannibals. They eat people. And I mean stuff I'm looking for. Excuse me? Ewoks are the coolest part of Star Wars. They're a violent cannibal. They eat people. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I don't really trust Widget. I think they're vegetarians.
Starting point is 00:09:13 They're very peaceful beings. Oh, I would rewatch Return of the Jedi. They are eating out of a helmet at one point, and it's implied that they're using stormtrooper skulls as dishware. Drum. Yeah, drums. Their femur bones as drumsticks. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Which makes me like them more. Yeah. You know what's crazy? As I pull this up, so, oh, I'm sorry, I said widget incorrectly. It's actually wicket, I forgot, and that was played by Warwick Davis, who we all know, that great English actor.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Also, Tony Cox played another Ewok named Widdle, I forgot, and that was played by Warwick Davis, who we all know, that great English actor. Also, Tony Cox played another Ewok named Whittle. And I don't know if you remember Tony Cox. He's the small gentleman from the Bad Santa movies who was Billy Bob Thornton's sidekick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. So, gosh, they're out here. What careers.
Starting point is 00:10:04 What careers they have. Caitlin, what is something you think is overrated? I think that Instagram stories are overrated. Overrated. Because one, I don't know how to use them. Oh, perfect. This will fit in good when we talk about Trump using Google. But also, I don't like that they disappear. And I know you can save them to your whatever
Starting point is 00:10:26 but I think that our attention spans are just they're just getting shorter and shorter and these are so fleeting and I don't know so it's the like ephemeral aspect of it that you don't like yeah like what if I miss something that someone posted
Starting point is 00:10:42 and then it's not there anymore you got a very complex relationship with these stories because part of you is like well what if I miss something that someone posted and then it's not there anymore? Oh, so you gotta have FOMO mixed, ooh, you got a very complex relationship with these stories. Because Partie was like, well what if I miss something though? But they overrated. And so I played a soccer game the other day, Bragg. Which one, FIFA Pro Evo? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I was just playing that last night. Yeah. I was on the field playing IRL soccer. We need to get a team going. I know. We've been talking about this. Okay, we'll do it. Sidebar, sidebar.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Okay, you're playing. So I was playing real life soccer, and Jamie, Yami Lofty, she was nice enough to come and watch my game. Wow. And she took an Instagram story of me almost scoring a goal. So close. But it was like a good shot and I was like, oh, I'd like to have this forever,
Starting point is 00:11:26 but it disappeared. But I think some, if you have an option to archive all of your stories too, I think on some level. Yeah, I don't know how. But it's the shortness of it that you're a little bit like, hmm.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah, and I think it's just like contributing to just this cultural thing that's happening of like like, no attention span. Right. Because we, like, if a video is longer than, like, 30 seconds long, everyone's like, ugh. Ugh, 30 seconds? Right. Is this Lawrence of Arabia?
Starting point is 00:11:56 Uh-uh. I need 10. So, yeah, I don't know. I find myself really getting lost in, because they're so short that you can just be like tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. And you just it's like learning something through the matrix where it's just little flashes of images. And you're like, I think I just kept up with my friend's childbirth. And now they have a home and this person is on vacation and you ate a creme brulee waffle. They Instagram storied their childbirth.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Yeah. That is very disrespectful to that child. Like, eh. Well, it's not like you saw the kid crowning or anything. Right, right. It was just like, oh my God, my water broke.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Ah! There should be a story like that. Yeah. That's the next level, right? Because I feel like the last big Instagram story that really got into culture was that woman who like
Starting point is 00:12:39 captured the couple on the airplane and was like, I switched seats with them. Like, we're watching this couple fall in love right in front of us. Oh. Do you remember that? And a lot of people were like, that's an invasion of their privacy. But and was like, I switched seats with them. Like we're watching this couple fall in love right in front of us. Do you remember that? And a lot of people were like, that's an invasion of their privacy.
Starting point is 00:12:48 But that was like, I feel like one of the times where that format sort of played out in this, this bigger way outside of Instagram. But anyway, the big thing I think we learned there is some podcasting duos actually show up to each other's intramural sporting events miles. I don't think intramural Dungeons and Dragons is a sport. Whatever. Whatever. Jack is just over there like LARPing, and you're like,
Starting point is 00:13:13 I don't want to go to that. He's like, Miles, Miles. Miles, I've won. I've vanquished. Yeah. The evil king. The hot dog guy's like, you know that night elf? I'm like, no.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I'm just these guys' heroin dealer. Caitlin, what is something that you think is underrated? The film, the cinematic marvel, Christopher Robin. Really? Tell me more. No one's talking about it. It was really good. I cried the whole time.
Starting point is 00:13:42 It's no Paddington. Okay. Thank you. Okay, good okay good nothing is of course nothing is as good as paddington but christopher robin it i didn't know that i had so much nostalgia for winnie the pooh and like that narrative in those characters but uh i watched that movie in theaters the other day and i could not stop weeping and it's like there's some weird components of it where like it's not just like a figment of christopher robin's imagination in this world point right right but like other people can see the winnie the poo oh and it makes for a
Starting point is 00:14:19 really weird narrative choice but setting that aside it's a great movie and I loved it so much. Or the reality of Christopher Robin's life. Wait, what do you mean? Because I know we were talking about how it sort of glosses over the fact that the real Christopher Robin hated the relationship he had to the Winnie the Pooh thing and how it caused him a lot of problems
Starting point is 00:14:40 as a child growing up. Because everywhere he went, people would be like, you're Christopher Robin! You're the kid from the... You must love Winnie the Pooh. And everywhere he went, people would be like, you're Christopher Robin, you're the kid from the, you must love Winnie the Pooh, and he's like, I'm a grown adult, leave me the fuck alone, you asshole. And he sold his rights to the thing for a pittance. He was like, I don't want anything to do with this anymore. Oh, I didn't realize that.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah, he was bullied so bad, he literally had to learn how to box to fight bullies as a child because he was just constantly being tormented for his relationship to these fake-ass stuffed animals. But that doesn't mean the movie couldn't be bad. I do think there's a metaphor there, though, for the death of imagination in Western culture because that was the value of it.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It's like, oh, he has imaginary friends that he plays with, and then now they're being co-opted into actually existing characters in this brand universe. So you're wrong for liking that movie, Caitlin. Well, you know what? I usually am. No.
Starting point is 00:15:33 By the way, for people who don't know what the Bechdel cast is, it is where you take down the patriarchy one movie at a time with film reviews. So Caitlin should be listened to and respected on all movie opinions. In the movie, does Christopher Robin come off as a mentally healthy person? Yes. He's mentally sound. Is he a little tortured?
Starting point is 00:15:58 He's tortured in that he spends too much time working and he's not paying enough attention to his family but it seems as though mentally yeah he's like of a sound mental state I guess I'll watch this version because yeah I think when we were talking about it it was sort of fitting into the broader theme of the Disney universe obscuring the actual history
Starting point is 00:16:20 of the people that were involved in their films but yeah and I mean all of the characters in the involved in their films. But yeah. And I mean, all of the characters in the Winnie the Pooh universe, or a lot of them at least, could be seen to represent different mental health problems. Yeah, they're like manifestations of like, yeah. You know, anxiety disorders, piglet.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Eeyore is obviously depression. Tigger is sort of like kind of recklessness. Yeah, well, Tigger's clearly manic. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. From Rap City, The Basement on BET? What? Big Tigger? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Oh, okay. You ought to watch BET. Never mind. That's for the real heads. Caitlin, what is a myth? What is something people think is true that you know to be false? Well, let's say your vape pen isn't working. Oh my, just stop right now.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Don't scare me like that. Wait, do you know that my vape pen isn't working? Who told you? I've come into your house and checked out your vape pen. Check all your vape batteries. It's working, Caitlin. Oh, okay. Well, let's say that mine specifically.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Is that pina colada? Love that flavor. Tiger blood. Let's say that Caitlin's vape pen isn't working, which it is not. Oh, that sucks, bro. You might think that turning it off and turning it back on again fixes it, but it does not. Wow. It's broken, and I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Yo, you came in hot with that myth. All right. So what you're saying is you need a new vape pen. Yes. Are you smoking weird vapes, like a weird Duncan Hunter congressman vape or like weed? No, it's just like CBD. I can't even smoke weed. It's just vape.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Vape weed. My bad. Yeah, THC apparently gives me panic attacks. Oh, two. But yeah. do you want to play soccer together hey you got a vape pen get our anxiety out on the field
Starting point is 00:18:13 I've been experimenting with CBD yeah yeah yeah the gateway drug yeah because I thought it would help me sleep has it been? I don't know it's broken oh so have you even started using it? help me sleep. Has it been? I don't know. It's broken. Oh, so have you even started using it? You haven't even used it once? I've tried it like five times, and people are like, oh, you need to recharge the battery.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yeah, I've tried that. Those things are really cheap, though. Every time I have a battery for those vape cartridges, they die so quickly. You'll screw it on too tight and unscrew it, and it's broken. If you're listening out there, and you make good vape batteries, I'll pay more than the 10 bucks that you're asking for for something that will last a little bit longer.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And also, guys, if you're working at a dispensary, and you got the vape pen hookup, holler at Caitlin. She's giving you all that good merch. She's giving you all this good content, and you can't hook her up with a vape pen battery? Right? Come on now.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Jeez. Come on, Bloom Farms. Come through. good content and you can't hook her up with a vape pen battery right come on now jeez come on bloom farms come through we are a podcast of vape kings and queens if nothing else uh royalty let's talk consumption guys because u.s consumer confidence uh has hit an 18 year high this is the number one headline on drudge report this morning with a picture of Trump looking like he just shit himself, but like in a competent way. And some pushback that we got from, I was surprised to find that there's still some, I think, economic conservatives who listened to our show. And they were like, yeah, well, the tax breaks aren't a scam because they're giving people $800 a year. And I do think that that is true. People like getting money for free and they have given people a nominal amount of money. And, you know, like Bush gave people tax cuts during his presidency and the economy was solid. The economy actually had a surplus.
Starting point is 00:20:09 But then, you know, a couple of wars and a stock market crash later. And, you know, you needed that money. So I don't know. Nobody's arguing that people don't like money. Yeah, but it's the main people who benefited from those tax cuts are the ultra wealthy. So, yes, on paper, sure, you got 800 bucks. Some people. The people who are really fucking laughing their ass off to the bank are people who have millions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So, yeah, sure, if you want to go down that road. But to say that those tax cuts are like you have teachers being like, well, holy shit. Tax cuts are like you have teachers being like, well, holy shit. Now I don't have to worry about my wages because I think what in Colorado or Washington, teachers are going to strike the first day already. Let's be real. Like that obscures the fact that, you know, sure, these people got $800, but we still have no real meaningful wages for people that that doesn't have to be the thing we hold up. to be the thing we hold up as props. It's just a question of the overall health of the system, where people can't pay for their own health care and an unprecedented amount of the wealth is in the hands of very few people. But we wanted to talk about a consequence of this vast consumerist system that we exist in. So I used to work on a YouTube channel for Cracked. And, you know, I knew about all the trends out there,
Starting point is 00:21:27 but I hadn't thought about unboxing videos in a couple of years. And there's this video that was released by the New York Times that is just sort of a review of the phenomenon of unboxing videos. It's made by Amanda Hess and her very talented editor. is made by Amanda Hess and her very talented editor. And it just does a good job of making me see the existence of unboxing videos again with fresh eyes and abject terror, the way that someone will see them in 200 years
Starting point is 00:21:57 in whatever museum people are looking back at us and being like, what the fuck? Another civilization comes to this planet. Hold on, y'all are fucking this place up. In what other country still exists? So for people who don't know what unboxing videos are, because she points out that when you search unboxing videos on YouTube, it returns 74 million results.
Starting point is 00:22:21 So there are 74 million unboxing videos on YouTube. At least a million of those are ones I've made. So just keep that in mind. But she calls it consumerist ASMR because there is like sort of a tactile aspect where you just see them open the box with an iPhone. They emphasize the peeling back of that like clear plastic that comes on the screen of your iPhone. Keep that on as long as possible.
Starting point is 00:22:46 You keep that? Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I first get a phone, it's like when I usually leave the sticker on my hat. Just be like, no, leave that on. The second you take it off, all bets are off. That's why my vape pen is broken.
Starting point is 00:22:57 I didn't take it off. I never took it out of the box. I've been smoking that plastic cover. Yeah, like why is that woman just sucking on a small rectangular box nope i don't know i don't know how to use this um still in the box it's also an interesting phenomenon because i feel like it's one of those i don't know it's not necessarily clear what it's replacing like i feel like celebrity and model instagram feeds are replacing sort of the fashion magazine and shows like you know cribs and lifestyles of the
Starting point is 00:23:32 rich and famous but this feels more new and like sort of pornographic she speculates that it's sort of a replacement for retail therapy where you just go to the grocery store or like a big box store and just walk aimlessly around and see all the kind of cool colors and things organized neatly, which I think is definitely a thing. Wait, is retail therapy just going around and looking at shit or you buy shit? I think it can be either, but it's just. Oh, okay. but it's just, there is a form of retail therapy where there's actually a good section in White Noise where he talks about going to the grocery store. He's having this existential crisis
Starting point is 00:24:12 and he goes to the grocery store and just all the colors and all the consumerism is just, grocery stores are probably America's greatest invention because people coming from other countries are like, holy shit, they've never seen anything. All the brightly colored, organized, just sensory overload. But because we're, I guess,
Starting point is 00:24:37 moving away from brick and mortar stores, we now have to find that sensory overload elsewhere. And so this may be one of the places we're finding it, but it's clearly scratching some itch that exists in people. Well, I think it's a thing where our consumer culture, the intensity of the consumer culture remains the same, if not increases. And then on the other end of that curve is people's buying power is beginning to diminish. So it might be closing that gap where you might not be able to afford the thing that you want but you can watch somebody else get it and open it and be like oh shit that's what that would
Starting point is 00:25:16 be like i don't know it feels like you know it helps you feel like you are you that you have purchased it or at least when i watch it i'm like, yeah. Sometimes you like opening something very meticulously, especially if it's something expensive and you're like, oh, and then this comes out. I feel like in a way, like we were talking earlier, if you're serious about buying something, you'll probably read a review or watch a review video because
Starting point is 00:25:38 you're interested in like, okay, this is something I'm probably going to purchase and I'm able to, so I want to know how that's going to fit in. But other times, if that thing's a little bit far off and you're like, I'm probably going to purchase and I'm able to, so I want to know how that's going to fit in. But other times if that thing's a little bit far off and you're like, I'm never going to buy that, you can watch an unboxing video and just get the thrill of that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:52 It could just be like, it's like, oh, people are obtaining something. Right. And you're satisfying that itch too of watching somebody obtain something. Yeah. She speculates that it's sort of the ultimate type of meaning in capitalism because you're watching the product go from its most valuable when it's still inside the box to like becoming a used product. And so there's like some meaning or some sort of cultural exchange happening there that we are sort of fetishizing, but I think it's definitely true what, what you were saying, because miles, you worked on a YouTube channel too. And you were saying that like these types of videos are so successful that you guys were just like,
Starting point is 00:26:31 yeah, let's find a, let's do an unboxing. No, it'd be like, Oh, this format, it just made sense because you're like,
Starting point is 00:26:37 for whatever reason, if you have access to an item and you unbox it and it's done in the right way and you have the right personality, it's like, yeah, even bigger companies like, yeah, even bigger companies are like, yeah, how do we ride that wave? But I think it also helps for like, you ever been to
Starting point is 00:26:50 like when you're a kid at a birthday party, like your own birthday and some kid tries to open one of your fucking presents? You know what I mean? Have you ever seen this at a birthday party? I've never had friends. Wait, birthday party? Oh my goodness, okay. Anyway, wait, people like, other people celebrate their birthday? Wait, birthday party? Oh my goodness. Okay. Anyway. Other kids?
Starting point is 00:27:05 Like, other people celebrate your birthday? Yes, it's your own birthday. Some little asshole kid be like trying to open your present. They're like, oh no, no, that's not your gift. Not your gift. You know, it's the same thing where you get the rush of seeing a box. What age was this? Like four or five?
Starting point is 00:27:22 Oh, okay. Yeah. What? What's the problem? I already apologized for trying to open your gift. Oh, okay. Yeah. What was the problem? I already apologized for trying to open your gifts, Miles. This is all Miles'
Starting point is 00:27:32 roundabout way of getting that. You know that sensation where you're at Miles' birthday party last year and there's a big box and you just start
Starting point is 00:27:39 tearing it open because I don't know, I guess you spell Caitlin M-I-L-E-S now. Anyway, but no, I think- Caitlin actually anagrams too. Tomiles Gray. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I watch a lot of unboxing videos, or I have watched a lot in the past. It's mostly around- You're sick, fuck. Yeah, I know. Especially with really nice packaging. And it's sometimes when they hear like, ooh, this is some good paper they're using. They use those descriptions. There's something about that.
Starting point is 00:28:06 And also like I started watching videos of dudes who just swim like in rivers where people whitewater raft. And they just like sort of trawl the bottom for like lost cell phones. And they'd be like, swam in the river and found three iPhones. And I'm like, hell yeah, dude. Like, yo, get those fucking iPhones. There's some asshole. Waterlogged. You should have kept them secure. What are you going to do with them? Well, sometimes, right, Like, yo, get those fucking iPhones. There's some asshole. Waterlogged. You should have kept them.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Yeah, what are you going to do with them? Well, sometimes, right, some people have them in, like, good cases. So, like, they pull them out and they fully work. And a couple of the videos, like, some people had just lost them. He found, like, a new iPhone 10 in, like, a Ziploc bag and the light was still on. And he called them and, like, returned the phone to the owner or whatever, which is also kind of fun, too, because then you feel you can also put yourself in the position of someone who's just lost a phone and like you hope
Starting point is 00:28:47 that's how people would interact with your lost like item. But yeah, I also just like people fucking combing the bottoms of the ocean, the river beds for cell phones and, you know, headphones, whatever. Oh, wait till I show you this one, Jack. He found he found a Galaxy 9, whatever, and a new iPhone. I mean, it's a person at least grateful when he returned it, or were they like, oh, chill, thanks, bro? They were like, oh my, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Because they were like, I thought it was just gone forever. Because, yeah, if you've ever been whitewater rafting, you're like, if I lost anything, I don't have goggles. There's no way you're going to get that shit. It's been a couple weeks for me, so I don't really remember since I last whitewater rafting. The River Wild was based on your life, right? It is. It's no way you're going to get that shit. It's been a couple weeks for me, so I don't really remember since I last whitewatered. The River Wild was based on your life, right? It is.
Starting point is 00:29:27 It's how I get to work most days. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you.
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Starting point is 00:33:44 I don't know. We are. I agree. I had a little bubble in my voice. It sounded like I was going to start weeping. Uh-oh. But I'm not. Goose time.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I swear to God. So guess who's back? Oh, no. Back again. Louis is back. So Louis C. CK did a surprise performance
Starting point is 00:34:08 and you mean masturbated in front of someone shout out to Twitter where like dozens of people made the joke
Starting point is 00:34:15 isn't surprise performances what got him in trouble in the first place yeah Jesus doing a surprise performance without the audience's consent sounds like he
Starting point is 00:34:23 learned a lot. Uh, solid dad joke. Everyone. Well done. Twitter. Move on to the next thing. And moving on.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Now, racism. Go. Well, apparently, uh, Louis didn't mention the fact that he, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:41 was in the middle of this controversy and not really controversy that he was in the middle of this controversy, and not really controversy, that he had done this horrible action and went up there and made observations about tipping waitresses and... Servers. Servers. He tips over servers? Yeah, he tips them over.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Yeah, like cow tipping. And traffic. Computer servers. And racism. He was like was like racism that's not the one that i have problems with right okay so i'll do commentary on that but he did it at the cellar which is the like the venue where i think in the opening of louie's credit like that's his his that's his home club what yankee stadium is a derrick jeter is what the cellar is to louis ck basically so it's he went into the most friendly territory.
Starting point is 00:35:27 But who knows if they said he got a standing ovation? Yes. That's fucking weird. I don't know. I don't understand it. It's kicked off a lot of stuff because I know Michael Ian Black was sort of saying, oh, it's good to see him get out there after he's just caught up in this stuff. And you're like, way to sort of totally mischaracterize all of this.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Right. Well, also a lot of the conversations have been around how will these abusers, how can we reintegrate them into society? Right. And how can they redeem themselves? And it's like, well, first of all, that should not be the priority. The priority should be paying attention to the victims and the people like the women who quit comedy and like their careers in comedy are over because
Starting point is 00:36:11 they spoke out and then they were threatened and you know blackballed and all that stuff so like the focus in a lot of these conversations has been on like oh the abusers and like what are we gonna do about them it's turned into all abusers, and what are we going to do about them? It's turned into, oh, abusers, basically is what you can distill a lot of that sentiment down. Yeah. What? It's been 10 months. When's it going to be enough, guys?
Starting point is 00:36:33 Come on. Like, what the fuck? Honestly, for the shit he did, he would probably spend more time in jail than nine months if that went to a trial, right? And you were locking people in a room and masturbating. I mean, in an ideal world, yeah, but our justice system fucking sucks. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:36:48 But I mean, if you even took by the rubric of if most of the time the justice system fails the victim of these things, even if he were to do that, it would be more than nine months. So he's actually even doing less time just keeping low than he even would. In the court of public opinion. Yeah, and I don't understand. It's been a whole thing we've just seen in the last four months, too, of a lot of people starting to talk about, oh, how am I going to get back in? Like already trying to sound out more opportunities for themselves. And I don't think that redemption necessarily means, OK, you were on time out long enough.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Now come back to your seat of power and wealth. Right. And there you go. When that was the exact thing you were weaponizing to behave in this manner. So at the very least, he hasn't even done the bare minimum of convincing people that he actually understands what he did. Right. He's still not holding himself accountable for what he did.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Right. At all. My proposal for if there is any sort of redemption in these scenarios. And it is your responsibility to come up with it. Right, right, right. As a woman. So tell us, what have you come up with? For people like him, TJ Miller, Chris Hardwick, they should get rid of all their wealth.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Give it to RAINN or something, an organization like that. Get marooned onto that giant pile of trash that's floating around. The gyre. The gyre, yes. And then live on that in obscurity until they pass away. Wow, okay. So that's my idea of their redemption. Justice Corner with Judge Durante. There probably is enough food out there in the garbage
Starting point is 00:38:17 that they can pick through. Because we throw away so much food. Yeah, the food waste. Just open up one of those malformed, sun-warped bottles of whatever, and there's probably some kind of nutrient in there for you. much food the food waste i mean yeah just open up one of those malformed sun warped bottles of whatever and there's probably some kind of nutrient in there for you our writer jm mcnab was pointing out that while it seems like we are giving louis parole for good behavior or no behavior woody allen is it looks like being sort of blacklisted in a good way.
Starting point is 00:38:46 I don't know. Can you blacklist someone in a good way? I mean, first of all, his movies have never really been financially successful. And so he always relies on wealthy people to be like, hey, yeah, we'll pay for your movie because it's cool for us to say we were attached to a Woody Allen movie. movie because it's cool for us to say we were attached to a Woody Allen movie. And now that it is becoming more and more kind of acknowledged that he sexually abused a child, at the very least, that that's no longer a cool thing. And so he is, for the first time since the year 1981, he is not going to be releasing a movie this year, which he really tends to churn those out, but he does not have a movie on the horizon.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Because he can't find any backing anymore. He can't find any financial backers. Oh, well. They said he's taking time off to look for financial backers. Like, oh, well, I think that means that. He's taking time off to find people with no moral scruples. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Is what that is. Right. So. I just don't. Man, I don't. Fucking. Like, Louie, come on now. You got to know this is not right.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Going up there and just like completely ignoring it and talking about tipping. Yeah, is the worst thing you can do. Right. It seems very. I don't know. Because you could. That's like being like an injured athlete where you're like, all right, well, my knee healed back up and I'm back out there. Nothing went wrong. Right. It seems very, I don't know. Because that's like being an injured athlete where you're like, all right, well, my knee healed back up, and I'm back out there.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Nothing went wrong. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, you've completely, well, as we said, we were always wondering how long it would take for some of these people to think that you get confident enough to be like, okay, let's dip the toe in and see what happens. I hope that there will be enough public outcry that he will understand that no one, I'm certainly not interested in seeing him come back anytime soon that they'll,
Starting point is 00:40:31 that'll translate. But again, you think about all the people that depend on him for a check, like publicists and agents and things like that. They're probably thinking they're like, yeah, like let's, okay, let's see. Maybe let's see if this cash cow can, can start generating something. Like let's see. That's a point that I've heard made about just in the context of Trump's scandal, that celebrities, our entire industries, they basically have industries built around them that are designed to keep their careers moving forward because lots of paychecks come from that specific individual. And so Trump has this whole, he's a celebrity first, then a politician. So he has this whole infrastructure of people who are covering up his crimes
Starting point is 00:41:13 to keep the paychecks coming through. And yeah, I think the same goes here. They said, I think one person called to complain about him appearing at the club that day. That's so upsetting. Unannounced too, it would be like yo i'm i'm surprised no i guess though again because it is the the seller like that's probably the one specific audience like yeah that appeals to a that's a gosh what was this standing is like if you don't stand i don't yeah whatever we'll see There is a great list that I found particularly useful
Starting point is 00:41:46 going around of 51 comedians who never forced women to watch them masturbate. And there's some great comedians on there. Except not me. Naomi Perrigan.
Starting point is 00:41:56 All right, throw it out. One of our other shows, Couples Therapy, is on there. Brandy Posey, Barbara Gray, a lot of great comedians who you have. Riley Silverman. Sarah Schaefer. Just heard lasty, Barbara Gray. A lot of great comedians.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Riley Silverman. Sarah Schaefer. Just heard last week. Sarah Schaefer. Aisling Bea. Aisling Bea. Oh, Desus and Mero. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Shout out to them. Although, I don't know. Mero, he said he was into some scumbag stuff back in the day. No, I'm not shaming him. And Donald Trump is taking on Google. He does not think that Google is being fair to him. This is it's so sometimes you can just clearly see where he's getting information. There was a article on Drudge, which is like one of the places that it's safe for Trump to look because he knows they will be talking about how great he is.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Well, they also covered it on a Fox News segment, too. Oh, OK. So maybe Fox News saw it on Drudge. He can't read, Jack. My bad. But it's based on this article from PJ Media, Pajamas Media, which is- Wait, what's PJ Media? Pajama Media. Oh, it really is Pajama?
Starting point is 00:43:00 Yeah, yeah. I think that's what the guy named his company. Okay, so please take them seriously. It's an American conservative news opinion and commentary collaborative. The article's argument has a couple logical flaws. It says that Google's top results are all liberal-leaning when you search for Trump news. judging whether something is liberal leaning is a like media bias chart that was made by a wildly conservative source because among the sites they consider liberal are the AP, Reuters, USA Today.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Yeah, but we've talked about this. When you state fact and objectively what he is doing is bad, they cannot accept that because that is one of the true bubbles they operate in or just the denial that's at work where it's like, oh my God, can you believe they actually said that this many kids were separated from their families? That's hater stuff they're talking about the AP. You can tell that it's an objective work of reportage
Starting point is 00:44:01 because the writer laments that the site on which the article is appearing doesn't appear in the writer laments that the site on which the article is appearing doesn't appear in the top results for that search. They're like, we're not on there, so what the fuck's up with that? PJ Media is it on there? PJ Media, yeah. Not to mention
Starting point is 00:44:17 Pajama Media is not on there, so it might be a conflict of interest. You know what is on there, though, is Nighty News. nighty news. Nighty. And PJ Media's logo is one of those kids' pajama onesies with a butt flap. Oh my, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:44:34 That's not true. I believe it, though, that someone was that idiotic and was like, oh, we're a serious news source. This is our logo, a butt flap onesie. Let me just double check that PJ Media does stand for Pajama Media. Just to make sure. Please let it be not. No, it's Public Justice Media, Jack.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Damn it. Yeah, originally known as Pajamas Media. Pajamas? Yeah, pajamas. Pajamas Media. Wow. So there Yeah, pajamas. Pajamas Media. Wow. So there you go. Who even sleeps in pajamas like that anymore?
Starting point is 00:45:10 Nobody over the age of six. Although, you know what? I won't lie. Around the holidays, I like to put on a matching pajama set. Do you? Makes me feel like- With Her Majesty? No, not really.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Because that's a big thing on Instagram, is families that all have matching pajamas on. Yeah, yeah. She's like, take that dumb shit off. Yeah. But I'm like, it feels so good. Also, it's too hot. Anyway, that's a little fact about Miles.
Starting point is 00:45:33 He likes to wear pajamas during the holidays. So anyways, Trump caught this story as it was being regurgitated by Fox News, and he was pissed. He said in a tweet that Google search engine had, quote, rigged news story search results to show mostly bad stories about him and other conservatives. So the way Google search algorithm works is basically using the behavior of respected outlets to tell them which sites people would want to find. You know, sometimes, I don't know, I guess they have judged that when people Google Trump news, they shouldn't give them results that are Trump opinion.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Yeah. Well, I've also noticed, too, that sometimes they will serve you shit that is completely not what you want. Like, I remember, like, any given political controversy, I'll then Google. Sometimes, like, the top stories will come from, like, The Blaze or other places like that where I'm like, well, I definitely, these are not the droids I'm looking for. Right. Yeah, I don't know. There's not an individual person who is scheming to give you the result.
Starting point is 00:46:43 There's not an individual person who is scheming to give you the result. It's all an algorithm that can get fucked up and is just using all the words that they've read in your email and everything to personalize these results. So it is weird. First of all, it's just weird for them to like this entire article is based on the author Googling on one computer. And then at one point they're like, and then I went and looked on other computers because the results are personalized and found, you know, similar stuff. But they don't give like specific details at all. So it's clear that it's not a very well fleshed out. But I think what it boils down to is that Trump is refusing to understand that most of the things he's doing objectively comes off as not good. Right. The other detail that
Starting point is 00:47:31 they miss is they're Googling Trump news. News is not like Trump opinion. It's, you know, like a lot of the sites that they're complaining aren't on there are actually opinion-based sites and blogs. Like PJ Media is a blog, and it's not a place that breaks news. The places that break news are the AP and Reuters and places that actually pay for reporters to go out and do actual journalism. So if you want to get right with, quote, news searches, then you have to actually learn and adapt based on facts uh that's what journalism is so i don't know but who knows but you know i worked at a company
Starting point is 00:48:14 that wow brag you worked at a company and that's bingo is about to go off uh that worked primarily made it their money by gaming Google's algorithm. My section didn't do that, but they had a whole, their biggest section of the company at the time was search engine optimization, and it was all about gaming Google's algorithm, and it turns out you can't fool Google's algorithm
Starting point is 00:48:42 for that long with bad content because they are constantly trying to upgrade it and make people like only able to find the highest quality content. So yeah, there's lots of smart people working on both sides to fool Google's algorithm and then from Google to make their algorithm foolproof and only, you know, returning the highest of quality information. And Trump's just mad that they don't have any articles that are about what a boss he is.
Starting point is 00:49:11 And one, it makes sense. He's, all of these other stories around the White House administration, they're all reports of how he's been particularly in a bad mood since last week. Right. And I wonder why, as the walls are closing in. Which also brings me to another point, because we've seen obviously with manafort being guilty and michael cohen taking a plea deal and all these other things happening and then manafort having another trial happening in dc and we found out he tried to make a deal with muller and muller like walked away
Starting point is 00:49:39 from it right that shit's getting very real and we don't quite know yet. But then I wanted to also bring up this idea because Lindsey Graham went on this morning, I feel, I think Good Morning America, and he was starting to talk about how Jeff Sessions might be fireable. I mean, he went last week and said something to this effect to just basically kind of insinuating, oh, well, you know, the attorney general actually works at the pleasure of the president. It's not a lifetime appointment, blah, blah, blah. So he began seeding this a while back. But now, like, we're hearing like full throated, like, well, maybe Jeff Sessions doesn't have to be the attorney general. The president has been railing against his attorney general. You notice. Yes. And your
Starting point is 00:50:22 tune seems to have changed a bit on Jeff Sessions. Why? What happened between July of 2017 and last week? Good question. One, I was a big supporter of Jeff being attorney general. He was close to the president. He upped the president when no one else did. He was a highly qualified lawyer, a good senator. And I was afraid that when he recused himself, the president was going to strike out and fire the guy. He had to recuse himself, guys, because he was part of the campaign that's now being investigated. But we need an attorney general that can work with the president, that can lead the Department of Justice. This relationship is beyond repair, I think.
Starting point is 00:50:58 But, Senator Graham, I mean, the only beef the president seems to have against him is that he's not going to get rid of the investigation into President Trump. Let me finish the second part. It's much deeper than that. What else? What are we missing? Well, we won't say on this show, but it's a pretty deep breach. And here's what I'm suggesting, that he's not the only man in the country that can be attorney general. He's a fine man.
Starting point is 00:51:26 the only man in the country that can be attorney general he's a fine man um i'm not asking him to be fired but the relationship's not working to replace him please to replace him yeah let me ask you have to replace him with somebody who is highly qualified and will commit to the senate to allow muller to do his job ah so they're saying get rid of him but don't you know don't get somebody who's just going to crush the Mueller probe. Someone who will protect it too. But again, they're saying, what changed between July 2017 when he was like, there will be holy hell to pay if he gets rid of Jeff Sessions, to now being like,
Starting point is 00:51:55 well, you know, we need somebody that the president can work with and trust. And that's why they're like, what do you mean? His biggest gripe is about this investigation. And then being like, well, there's stuff you don't know about. That's why I'm just curious. Pretty deep breach. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Now, is Lindsey Graham. Oh, if I told you what he did. Oh, man. It can't be on this show. I just can't because the president is very secretive and good at keeping secrets. Exactly. And I don't know why. It seems like he has a personal interest now in protecting the president for whatever reason.
Starting point is 00:52:25 That seems a bit odd. So look out for any grumblings of a little AG switch. I mean, couldn't it just be that the Republican Party is fucked after this whole Trump presidency? They could just be like, okay, whatever. If it's going to go down like this, just try and figure out everything we'll do. They're just scrambling for survival. It also just seems, yeah, I don't know. Back then it wasn't as clear.
Starting point is 00:52:51 So in July 2017, it wasn't as clear that the investigation was going to find all this shit that they were hoping wasn't actually there. They were saying Michael Cohen was a good guy. Right, and now it seems like there's only really one path for the investigation to go down. The survival of the Republican Party is at stake and they're going to do whatever they can to, you know, keep it alive. I mean, at this point, this has to fuck their brand up so bad that you feel like this should like they're just going to have to figure out a new party after this.
Starting point is 00:53:23 But we all know that that won't happen. The pajama party. Oh, PJ. Wow. I am in. Is that a musical? Let's talk off mic. Pajama game?
Starting point is 00:53:33 What is that? Pajama jammy jam? I don't know. See, this just- Oh, House Party 3 pajama. Pajami loftus? Pajami loftus. There you go.
Starting point is 00:53:42 No, the pajama game. Yeah. By Richard Bissell. It's a book by George Abbott and Richard Bissell. There you go. No, The Pajama Game. Yeah. By Richard Bissell. It's a book by George Abbott and Richard Bissell. That's right. It was a musical. Oh, of course. It's a book.
Starting point is 00:53:50 It's a book turned musical. Yep. I just remember because I felt like it was a thing in my high school that happened, and I was like, this looks like something I'm not interested in. I'm pretty sure most two-word combinations could be said to be a book. Or a musical. Yeah. Or a musical. The Pen Theory. Yep. Almost definitely a musical yeah yeah like a musical the pen theory
Starting point is 00:54:06 yep that actually sounds like a self-help book yeah all right we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life it's too late for that i have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110.
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Starting point is 00:56:49 That's my husband. Daphne Spring, Daniel Thrasher, Peppermint, Morgan J., and more. You got to watch us. No, you mean you have to listen to us. I mean, you can still watch us, but you got to listen. Like, if you're watching us, you have to tell us. Like, if you're out the window, you have to say, hey, I'm watching you outside of the window. Just, you know what?
Starting point is 00:57:08 Listen to the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you ever wonder where your favorite foods come from? Like, what's the history behind bacon-wrapped hot dogs? Hi, I'm Eva Longoria. Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon. Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. Season two. Season two. Are we recording? Are we good?
Starting point is 00:57:37 Oh, we push record, right? And this season, we're taking in a bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history. Saying that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito from Cuba, and the piña colada from Puerto Rico. So all of these... We have, we think, Latin culture.
Starting point is 00:57:57 There's a mention of blood sausage in Homer's Odyssey that dates back to the 9th century B.C. B.C.? I didn't realize how old the hot dog was. Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:58:13 or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back, and big news for dirtbags like me. 7-Eleven has finally decided to launch its own delivery app. 7-Elevens, I really like their products. Most of them smell like burnt garbage. No, like burnt bleach. Burnt bleach.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Or whatever. If there's a smell. That's what a 7-Eleven smells like. But right now, I'm a little upset because this service is only limited to people in Washington, D.C., Dallas, or New York City. So I'm getting on a plane right now to Dallas so I
Starting point is 00:58:58 can use the 7-Eleven app. I thought Postmates would do me in, but if 7-Eleven just delivers things, that's a really – because I like a spicy bite. I'm not going to lie. I will eat a spicy bite. Miles, spicy bite, agree. One time I lost my job, and I went straight to 7-Eleven to cope, and I ate a gigantic spicy bite with the shitty nacho cheese and the chili that comes out that weird-ass machine.
Starting point is 00:59:23 And I had a vision of the future i don't know if it was like a chemically induced hallucination uh but it was great this reminds me a bit of how i used to be a delivery driver for america's greatest restaurant hooters yeah that's right yeah how not quite the same they're not doing it too hot right now. Did you read that story? I did read that story. Yes. Our generation kind of sees how weird the idea of a Hooters is in general. Why? What's wrong with Hooters?
Starting point is 00:59:52 It's really because- People don't like their wings? Yeah. I mean, the only way to get them is Daytona style, man. They used to not advertise that. I think that's really the problem. I mean, now they do. Instead of brother.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Yeah. Daytona style. Well, the real reason that Hooters isn't doing well is because I no longer work there. Right. But, you know. Did you like Hooters food? Not especially, no. Fried pickles?
Starting point is 01:00:13 I don't know if I had them from Hooters. Do you like fried pickles in general? Yeah, they're okay. That's the only thing I think, I'm like, oh, they have fried pickles there, but I can't go in there. It's too far away for me to go to a Hooters for fried pickles. Their wings are fine. Wings are fine. We all know Wingstop is still the best go in there. It's too far away for me to go to a Hooters for fried pickles. Their wings are fine. Wings are fine. We all know Wingstop is still the best wing out there.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Please holler at me, Wingstop, because I can't stop eating their wings. There's something about it. I really need help. I really need help. And also, 7-Eleven, please stop selling spicy bites. My body is begging you. Wait, what are spicy bites? It's just the spicy hot dog that they have.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Oh, got it. There's the big bite, then there's a spicy bite. And yeah, 7-Eleven. I mean, I think it's a good thing if you need things in a pinch that you can't normally get on Postmates or whatever, but 7-Eleven. Like Pepsi. Get your condoms and your lighters and your Swisher Sweets
Starting point is 01:01:02 and your Listerine strips and whatever you get there. So I wanted to talk a little bit about how American land is used. There's just a really cool article in Bloomberg. Bloomberg apparently has some pretty great online article designers. Like infographics? Yeah. Article, oh, like for their graphic user interface yes but it was just cool it kind of put things in perspective in a way that i hadn't really understood the country like for instance i had no idea that one third of the united states is used for pasture and when you
Starting point is 01:01:39 take into account uh land used to grow feed it's actually 41 of the country is devoted to raising cattle holy shit yeah oh between pasture and and growing feed and growing feed is 41 41 of our land yes man because i look at la and it just looks like concrete to me right so i don't know if that stat holds up so when like in terms of in terms of our mental landscape, there's way more people living in cities, but cities take up a very tiny portion. It's definitely the fastest growing portion of the United States. major category that, I don't know, like growing up in Ohio, West Virginia, even New York, like upstate New York, you are constantly surrounded by woods and that's something that, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:02:36 I guess like in movies and stuff, you don't really get that sense that that's what America is like, but I don't know. Or at least the East Coast. Movies are how we relate to our land. Honestly, that's not a wrong belief. No, it's true, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:52 No, that's how I get all of my visions of every place that I've not been before. Right. Egypt is the Egypt from Michael Bay movies in my brain. 41%. And it's crazy. It's wild when you think about how that contributes
Starting point is 01:03:08 to global warming too, like the red meat industry. That just makes so much sense. Yeah. Urban areas make up 3.6% of the total size of the 48 contiguous United States. But yeah, so the prairie thing is just a good illustration. I don't know. We've talked before on the site about how dairy farmers are like secretly the evil empire
Starting point is 01:03:32 underneath the surface of America. And there's a reason. They control a shitload of the land. Yeah. So I don't know. Interesting article. We'll link off to it in footnotes. Footnotes.
Starting point is 01:03:43 But also, and this is kind of a bummer story, but fun is apparently bad for you. No. So an article came out that did one of these overarching studies of all the other studies and like a statistical analysis of, I think it's a meta analysis, what they call it, of all the different alcohol studies on human consumption of alcohol. And they basically put the kibosh on all these studies that are like, two glasses of red wine a night are better for survival and good for your heart. They said that any benefits to the heart are outweighed by cancer and shit like that. Yeah, liver damage. Well, it's big business, too. I think that's 2017, $26.2 billion.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Yeah. You're not going to put that thing to bed. Right. They're giving people money to be like, hey, look out for big whiskey and all that. Wait, so this study you're saying it completely debunked all that shit or just saying while those things may be true, it actually doesn't acknowledge that like drinking does have a negative effect
Starting point is 01:04:53 on your physical health? Yeah, they're just saying when taking all of these different studies into account, if the question is like, should I or shouldn't I take this drink? It's a net negative on your health. Ah, gotcha. And that's their analysis based on looking at all the studies
Starting point is 01:05:11 that they could find that were scientifically valid. My grandma drank beer every day, and she died at 101 years old. Well, shit, you need to get in touch with these motherfuckers. I need to get in touch with her. Somebody, John Edwards, crossing over with John Edwards. Help me, Long Island Medium John Edwards. Help me. Long Island medium. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:26 What's the secret? Well, I just realized why my vape pen might be broken. It's because I'm vaping alcohol. Hey.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Vaping alcohol. Oh, no. Oh, no. Just dipping it in beer. That's not how they're like strong. I'm just like sucking it up. It's cool.
Starting point is 01:05:42 See, I'm done using plastic straws. Caitlin, it's been a pleasure having you. Thank you so much for having me. Where can people find you, listen to you, follow you? You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Caitlin Durante, which again, anagrams to Latin dancer UTI. For anybody who's wondering how to spell that just rearrange those letters into Caitlin Durante you can listen to my podcast The Bechdelcast
Starting point is 01:06:10 right here on the Hey Sluts What's Up Network we talk about the portrayal and representation of women in film and how it's usually terrible and you can follow that at Bechdelcast on Twitter and Instagram. What's the newest episode? This week we are releasing
Starting point is 01:06:25 Crazy Rich Asians. Next week will be 10 Things I Hate About You. Yeah, a lot of good stuff coming. Alright. And is there a tweet that you've been enjoying? Oh yeah, well, speaking of the Bechtelcast, my co-host Jamie,
Starting point is 01:06:41 sorry. Who? Yami Lofty, aka the hacker who codes, a.k.a. Lozamb. Oni. She just tweeted, I believe, yesterday. Fellas, if your girl did not turn into an eagle and fly out the window mid-coitus, she did not come.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Miles, where can people find you, follow you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying what if they turn into another thing and it's not an eagle is there a follow well then she did come yeah
Starting point is 01:07:10 oh good okay look I don't I don't make the rules I just hey them's the rules oh yes I'm at miles of gray
Starting point is 01:07:19 on Twitter and Instagram a tweet I was really liking is from at booze monkey Rachel is the display name. It says,
Starting point is 01:07:27 people who order fajitas in restaurants just want attention. And isn't that the fucking truth, Ruth? Because you hear that sizzling platter. You're like,
Starting point is 01:07:35 oh shit. Yeah. Where's that going? And I'll never order it though. It seems like too much work. Oh, for real? Because you're assembling. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:43 I guess I'm so lazy that even to put the loose pieces of meat and bell pepper and onion onto a tortilla and then eat it feels like a lot of work. I guess it's all contextual. Sometimes I'm even fadier. Spicy Bites comes assembled for you, I'm guessing. Well, no. It depends. If I go to the one in North Hollywood where they know me, I walk in, the door rings, and he goes, one second, and he just pulls out my spicy bite with the cheese and chili on it.
Starting point is 01:08:07 But what do spicy bites sound like? I don't know. Spicy. Yeah. I just walked through the 7-Eleven. I'm like, I'm having a spicy bite, y'all. Look at me. But yes, shout out to all the fajita eaters out there.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Fajitas are a great example of American consumerist innovation because they were just like, how the fuck do we sell more fajitas? And they were like, oh, what if we made them sound cool? They're screaming through the restaurant. And that shit worked on me. I used to always order fajitas.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Really? What do you mean, used to? When I was younger. You're like, and then I fucking grew up. Yeah. And then I was like, ah, my food is talking. I'm more of a chile relleno guy now.
Starting point is 01:08:48 So wait, Jack, you're a fajita? Uh-oh. Fajita eater. Fajita eater. I should not the best in biz for nothing, guys. You can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple of tweets for you. Minerva Zimmerman tweeted,
Starting point is 01:09:05 at Grumpy Martian tweeted, you know why everything, this isn't a joke, this is just a good point. You know why I quote everything tastes like chicken? It isn't everything. It's just all the animals
Starting point is 01:09:15 that have dinosaurs as ancestors. Technically, they all taste like dinosaur. So keep that in mind. Hey, where'd you find that tweet? What do you mean? It was mine from yesterday. Was it really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Fuck. Yeah, boy. Incepted the boy. Damn. I was not paying attention. Reload that one. Keep that in. I just kept looking at Nick going, what the fuck is he guessing?
Starting point is 01:09:40 From Miles of Gray? No. All right. Second tweet from Ditch Pony at Molly7Anne tweeted, so what's deal with the pubes we've all been shaving off and saving up since middle school? I don't know about y'alls, but my pube barrel is nearly full. Wondering what the plan is.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Oh, man. Something old and something new. Yeah, the plan is get barrel number two out. Yeah, yeah, man. So that was something old and something new. Yeah. The plan is get barrel number two out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Sorry for totally not listening to what tweets you use. I was amazed.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Because I'm always scrambling desperately. To find a tweet. Wow. That's amazing. Do your homework, Jack. We need to stop spending time together because out of all of Twitter, the millions of things that were tweeted over the last couple of days. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Oh, you know why? Because I think before I even started talking about it, I gave a long winded description of how I ate a half a fried chicken and then went into that. And you probably tuned that out because that's all I was talking about when I got in office. That's true. I was like, yo, I ate this half a fried chicken. Look, if you're looking for a tweet, look no further than at Latin Dancer UTI. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Scramble it up. Man, that has to be a... You should get that handle. Yeah, I'm getting that handle right now. You can follow us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page on our website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes,
Starting point is 01:11:00 where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. The footnotes are also in the information about the episode in our footnotes we also link off to the song that we write out on uh you know let's do something just purely because of the artist name it's not often that i look at an artist's name and i get a good chuckle so this is a track called john cage from the artist ross from friends that is this artist's name, is Ross from Friends. It's more of a, you know, like electronic kind of dance track. But yes, you know, it's got a little beat to it. And again, it's fucking Ross from Friends.
Starting point is 01:11:34 I guess you can have like mad pretentious song names when your artist's name is Ross from Friends. Yeah, that's dope. And I didn't even watch Friends, but I just know that Ross from Friends Ross Geller is his name oh maybe John Cage
Starting point is 01:11:48 is a reference to the Mortal Kombat character but that would be John E. Cage yeah do you think John E. Cage is a reference
Starting point is 01:11:55 to John Cage I don't know see it's hard to know hard to know who knows alright we are going to ride out on that
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Starting point is 01:17:28 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you ever wonder where your favorite foods come from? Like, what's the history behind bacon-wrapped hot dogs? Hi, I'm Eva Longoria. Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon. Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. And this season, we're taking an even bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Saying that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito from Cuba, and the piña colada from Puerto Rico. Listen to Hungry for History on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I am Lacey
Starting point is 01:18:02 Lamar. And I'm also Lacey Lamar. Just kidding, I'm Amber Reffin. Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. This season, we make new friends, deep dive into my steamy DMs, answer your listener questions, and more. The more is punch each other. Listen to the Amber and Lacey Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen, okay?
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